WEBVTT - Semester 4 Finale Part I – Lab 083 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.560 It's hard to believe, but Semester four is coming to 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:04.320 a close. 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:05.440 I can't believe it. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:08.039 This was a huge semester for Dope Labs. We went 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:12.400 from bi weekly to weekly episodes and we have covered 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:14.080 so much. 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:16.079 So for our last two laps of the semester, we 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:18.360 decided that we were going to get back in touch 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.200 with a few of our favorite guest experts to hear 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:25.520 updates from their fields. Think of this as like Semester 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.920 four's greatest hits, you know, like when Diddy did Diddy 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.000 and the Bad Boy Family and all of them came 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:32.760 together and made that Dope album. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:33.800 Yeah like that. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.640 Welcome to Dope, a weekly podcast that makes this hardcore 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.400 science pop culture and a healthy does of friendship. 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.959 Okay, let's get into it. We're going all the way 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:10.880 back to our first lab of the semester. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.000 Now it's a long time ago. 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.560 The number was Lab thirty seven then and now we're 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:16.800 all the way at Lab eighty three. 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.200 Yes, I remember all the way back to Lab thirty seven, 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.400 and it was so exciting because it was our first 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.160 lab back for the semester and it was all about 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:26.240 science denial. 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:27.679 And we were in the throes of the. 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:31.160 Pandemic, seeing a lot of stuff online that just was 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.760 not true about the virus, about the vaccine, and so 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.920 we had a lot of questions about why people were 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:40.400 falling for what we felt like was the okie doke. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.479 And so I'm really excited to hear an update from 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.960 our guests and see what they've been up to since 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:46.840 Lab thirty seven. 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.840 I'm Gil Sinantra, the co author of Science Denial, Why 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.120 it Happens and what to do about it. 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.440 I'm Barbara Hoefer, co author of Science Denial. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.040 In the year since our book was published and we 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.880 appeared on Dope Labs, Science Denial has not waned. 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.320 What remains deeply disconcerting to us is the number of 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.280 individuals who rely on the opinions of others rather than 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:14.240 scientific knowledge and expertise, to make uninformed decisions that can 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:15.880 have deadly consequences. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.400 You know, when we think about evaluation of science, you 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:23.200 think about thoughtful, deliberative approaches to examining evidence and assessing 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.600 expertise when somebody is giving you information. But what we 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:30.600 know is the way we get information, and sometimes information 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:34.440 and reasoning about science is done through crowdsourcing, and it's 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.640 based on how you feel about the person giving you 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:40.919 the information, So if they are your friends on Facebook, 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.760 or if it's the beliefs of a social group you're in, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.200 or however you choose to identify, whatever they're believing, you're 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:47.080 likely to believe. 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.960 Doctors Hofer and Sinatra also have a few reminders about 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.000 what you can do to address science denial. 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.760 First, vote for those who support science and who base 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:01.200 related policy decisions on scientific evidence. We will not effectively 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:06.160 address climate change or the pandemic without leadership that values science. Second, 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.360 enhance your own digital literacy and make sure you're not 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:14.840 complicent in sharing misinformation. Third, practice listening and communication skills 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:16.600 and take the risk to talk with those who have 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:20.320 differing views. This may be especially helpful with the holidays 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:20.839 coming up. 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.320 You know, we just touched on misinformation in our last 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:28.560 lab on social media with doctor Jeff Hancock. The problem 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.960 is not going away, it's only growing. And this also 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:35.800 feels related to Lab seventy five with David mcrainey Can 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.560 you Change Someone's mind? In that lab, we kind of 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.720 explore the group identity the US verse them, and how 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.360 being in a group makes us hold on to certain 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.520 beliefs even if they don't hold up compared to the science. 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.800 Just listen to the disparities that doctor Hofer mentions. 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:54.000 A July twenty twenty two national survey showed that twenty 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.960 nine percent of Republicans did not plan on getting vaccinated 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.680 more than a year after vaccinations became widely available and 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:04.279 free to the US public, compared to nine percent of Democrats. 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:08.040 This disparity has become a significant public health challenge. 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.520 So thinking back to what we learned in Lab seventy five, right, 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.360 you start to see these disparities based on whatever your 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:19.520 social group in this case political party chooses to believe 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.120 or chooses to follow. So if you have a group 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.600 who says not to vaccines, what does the science tells 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:30.400 about vaccines That it protects you from death from infectious 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.640 diseases and stuff. And so if your group is saying 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:37.240 nota vaccines, then you start to see these differences in morbidity, 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:41.320 in death rate. And that's exactly what we saw with COVID. 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.920 So really, what we're seeing our trends, it's not that, oh, 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:48.159 if you are a Republican you are biologically predisposed to 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.520 rejecting a vaccine. We're seeing that which is something that 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.200 we've also talked about in other episodes is that your 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.640 social bubble is usually a reflection of who you are. 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.320 So it's usually people who are the same religion, same 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:07.080 socioeconomic status, same political views, and so these are trends 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.960 that are happening within social circles. You tend to do 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:13.159 what people from your social circle are doing rather than 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:16.240 thinking individually, because we all feel a little bit more 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:20.880 comfortable when we are doing something that is of what 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:25.640 we feel like our culture, so what culturally fits for us. 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.279 Yes, and it's wild that we're still talking about this 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.600 because LAP thirty seven was a long time ago. 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.800 And since that episode aired, there have been boosters that 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:38.000 come out to address the new emerging variants of COVID, 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.279 And what the studies are saying is that if eighty 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:45.120 percent of Americans eligible for the latest COVID nineteen booster 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.440 get vaccinated by year's end, so the end of twenty 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:52.839 twenty two, it could save about ninety thousand lives and 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:56.240 more than nine hundred and thirty six thousand hospitalizations. 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:59.479 And listen, if you take all this information into account, 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.960 you say, yeah, I know how upset we all were 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.839 and how terrible we felt about being at home. But 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.200 the fact of the matter is that only thirty six 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:10.479 percent of adults older than fifty have gotten their boosters, 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.240 and that makes it really tricky when we consider the 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.520 potential winter surge with the flu and COVID. 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:16.960 Uh. 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:19.160 That's a tough mix. 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.599 Right, Joe Biden says the pandemic is over. I don't 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:23.839 know if the CDC agrees. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.839 Joe Biden had to come back and clarify his remarks, 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:28.680 and that should show you even the President can get 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:29.000 it wrong. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:29.440 Right. 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.279 It's easy to speak casually about what's happening for you 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.840 now or how it feels. Sometimes I don't want to 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:36.760 look at those cold, hard facts in the mirror. You know. 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.200 It's not specific to the pandemic either. I know you 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.000 called me out all the time when my. 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.240 Now sunk eats. Uh uh. 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:50.120 When I misinformed today, I said I had stopped interrupting people, 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.800 and TT said, oh wow. I said I had stopped, 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:54.920 but I'm back, and TT you just said, oh wow, 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:56.920 I didn't realize you were gone. And I was like, well, 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.880 I wasn't. But did I want to hear that? 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:00.240 No? 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.000 Did I spread a misinformation? 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:07.559 Yes, Okay, we're all trying our best. We're trying our best, 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:08.680 but it's true. 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:13.720 Misinformation is not just limited to the pandemic. It also 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:18.680 is still affecting the public's attitudes towards everything from elections 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:22.200 to climate change. Yes, so go back and listen to 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.200 our first episode from this season, Lab thirty seven, to 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.880 find out more about the psychological reasons for science doubt, resistance, 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.280 and denial, and for more ideas about what you can 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:37.800 do to promote scientific thinking in general. Okay, so now 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.160 we're jumping ahead just a couple of weeks to Lab 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.360 thirty nine, and that was called ads a Cart where 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.600 we talked to guest expert and author of Arriving Today 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:49.360 from Factory to Front Door, Christopher Mems. I've been wanting 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.240 to hear from Christopher Mems because I've been seeing all 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:52.920 kinds of stuff. 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.440 I was in Paris. There was a mustard shortage, particularly 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.040 Dejon mustard. Okay, I saw that there was a tampon 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:02.400 shortage for a minute. There's also a formula shortage milk 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:03.040 for the babies. 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:03.640 We need that. 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.400 We just keep seeing things missing. But then also when 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.640 I go to the stores, the Christmas stuff is out 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:12.000 with the Halloween stuff. 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:16.240 Exactly, and I'm just waiting on those curtains that I 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.559 had ordered way back at lap thirty nine. 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:23.120 Hello. Hello, this is Christopher Mems checking back in from 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:28.800 the shipping episode. Just a quick update. Since we last talked, 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.840 so much material has flowed through the world's supply chains 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.040 that there is now an oversupply at stores, so you 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.319 can look for discounts at your nearest big box store 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:41.559 and of course at online retailers. 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:45.560 When I saw this was happening, I immediately said, oh baby, 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.640 the sales are going to be on and popping. 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:48.640 I thought the. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.640 Same thing too, but you know, with every action there 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:55.600 is an eco on opposite reaction, and that applies in 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:59.280 this case too. You know, retailers like Target and Walmart 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:04.280 they're having really big sales before the holiday season just 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:08.120 to get rid of some of this oversupply that Christopher's 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:08.720 talking about. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.800 However, this is not universally good news for the people 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:15.600 who work in those supply chains, because as the price 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:20.120 for shipping over the ocean and trucking on our highways 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:25.720 has crashed inevitably, that means layoffs and the collapse of 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.719 small trucking companies. So as ever, this is a very 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:34.680 cyclical industry, and what happens is that there's a contraction, 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.679 people get laid off, and then that kind of sets 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.160 us up for the next supply chain snafuo because there 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.080 are not enough people and not enough capacity in that 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.679 pipeline for the next time that we have a pandemic 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:50.120 or some other issue. And this may be contributing to 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.240 ongoing inflation, which of course we're all feeling in our 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:54.440 pocketbooks these days. 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:59.080 Yes, inflation is real. People are also doing their holiday 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:04.240 shopping earth to avoid the potential rising prices due to inflation. 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.360 And if you're still wondering what inflation is, go back 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.800 to Lab seventy nine, which we did with doctor Vanessa Perry. 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.319 That's about the current US economy and it talks about recessions, 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.400 inflation and interest rates. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:18.559 Thank you for the opportunity to check in with you, 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.800 and as ever, this will be an ongoing story. We 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.640 can't forget where everything that we buy and everything that 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:30.960 we rely on actually comes from. 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.440 I know we've been talking about winter holidays, you know, 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.080 an inflation receession and all these things like that, But 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.440 last time I checked the CBS, the target they have 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.480 put out the Halloween candy, and so that made us 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:47.120 think about our episode with doctor Marcus Johnson when we 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:48.360 talked about teeth. 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:53.720 Hey everyone, doctor Marcus Johnson. Dental specialists just want to 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.880 give a big shout out to the Dope Labs team, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:58.679 thanks for bringing me back on just to give you 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:02.560 guys a few tips or safe and healthy Halloween. For one, 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.000 you have little kids, make sure that they're brushing and 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.599 floshing every night. We don't want those sugar bugs to 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:10.560 get in there and causing any cavities. And speaking of cavities, 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.760 a great way to keep those out. We already know 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.480 what an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:17.680 So go to your local dentists. Make sure that you 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.760 ask for ceilings. They're good for kids and for adults. 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.480 What's happening, what's going on? What's new in dentistry. We 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.760 have the Greater New York Dental Meeting that's gonna be 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:29.760 happening November twenty fifth through November thirtieth at the Jacob 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.840 Javid Center. All guests are welcome, Registration is free. You 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:37.480 can go there, walk around, find out about new advancements, 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:41.720 new products, and new technology within dentistry. Tons of free giveaway, 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.559 and you're gonna learn a lot as well. So hey, everybody, 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.880 stay safe, stay healthy, and go easy on the sweets. 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:48.640 Take care. 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.360 Some candy is worse for your teeth than others. I 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.720 think that's really important to know. Now you might not 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.480 want to hear this, but chocolate does the least amount 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.280 of damage. I'm not really a chocolate lover, but it 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.600 does damage because it melts away really fast, and it's 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.000 the sticky stuff and the sour stuff that tends to 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.000 stick on your tooth enamel and do more damage. And 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.400 so that's also why I'd like to come out that 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.160 even though I am on Team Dope Labs and we've 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.559 previously voted on this, I still think candy corn is trash, 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:17.280 trash and dangerous to the teeth. 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.040 Now you're just grasping at straws, y'all just kind of 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.560 come up with reasons for people to stop eating candy corn. No, no, no, 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:27.160 I will not be tricked. Candy corn is a delicious treat. 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.400 I will brush my teeth afterwards. 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.400 Well I'm glad you will, because what I didn't realize 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.840 is that November first, right after Halloween, is actually National 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.360 brush Day. So go ahead and get your candy corn 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.679 bingje in, but just make sure you're hitting those back 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:44.960 molars and you're hitting them right. 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:48.640 I hope everybody's brushing their teeth every day National brush Day. 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.680 Every day's National brush Day in this house, but I 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:52.800 understand the celebration. 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.000 Oh my goodness, you see what I have to put 0:12:59.080 --> 0:12:59.240 up with. 0:12:59.320 --> 0:12:59.600 Y'all. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:04.000 Let's take a break. When we come back, we'll hear 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:23.479 from more of our favorite guests and some listeners too. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.400 Hey tg, hey, Sekia. 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:33.199 It is me a long time listener Cat. I just 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.560 want to say thanks for all you do. I really 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.559 enjoyed the mind the Gap episode. It just really spoke 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.800 to me as a librarian and everything we see out 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.319 here and how we aren't really all on the same 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.680 age digitally. So thank you guys so much for covering 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.840 all you do. And take care guys. 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.120 That was longtime listener Cat. 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.360 And let me tell you I follow Kat on social 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.400 I think we both do follow Kat on social media, 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.480 and so we are always on top of when she's 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:04.800 going to different like comic con events, and she does 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.520 cosplay so much fun. I love watching her put her 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.439 outfits together and getting all the pieces and making sure 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.880 everything's just right. I'm like, yes, Cat, you nailed that one. 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.000 And she also listens to Dope Labs when she goes 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:21.600 for runs, so she runs long distance and she puts 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:25.320 us in her ears to push her through her run. 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.840 Maybe it's like torture. It's like, ah, let me hurry 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:32.040 up and finish. 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.640 Kat brought up to Mind the Gap episode that was 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:38.200 really exploring the differences in internet access in urban and 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:43.360 rural areas, and even access to devices and being able 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:48.920 to keep up with this continuously growing digital age. H 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:56.360 And that reminds me of another episode that was definitely 0:14:56.360 --> 0:15:00.640 a fave for us that touched on cybersecurity with Christina Marilla. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.400 Yes, and this is such a great topic to bring 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:07.800 up because the new UK Prime Minister, Liz Trust her 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:11.760 mobile phone was just hacked. And in situations like these, 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:16.000 what's at stake for consumers and citizens when those in 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.680 charge of their government gets hacked. 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.640 That's a great question because the fact of the matter 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.680 is that anyone can be hacked, right However, the good 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:30.440 news is that we are all empowered to protect ourselves 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.680 and each other or our data and our friends and 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:38.560 families data. So just because someone from the government is hacked. Obviously, 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.440 their third model is a little bit different. They're in 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:44.040 the public eye, so there are different precautions and just 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.080 you know, steps that they have to take to make 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:50.840 sure that their technology is secure at all times. Right, 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.880 it's not a one and done thing. Well, as consumers, 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.440 we don't have to rely on like a tech department 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.680 to do that. We can actually do that ourselves. 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.560 Okay, I don't have whole team, but I do feel 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:07.960 like the prime minister of my house, So yes, what 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:09.000 do I need to do? 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.320 The first thing that we can do is educate ourselves 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:16.000 and understand what are the things that are at risk? Right, 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.680 So that could be your bank account information, your logging, 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:22.760 your passwords, basically access to your crown jewels. Right, there's 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.400 so much information out there on how to take steps 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:29.120 to protect your online accounts, your digital identity. 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:31.880 And I feel like some of the things that Christina 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.960 told us in our previous episode, right, I tried to implement. Yes, 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:39.520 you know, I'm not connecting to every old random Wi Fi. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:41.000 I stopped doing that. 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.560 What about those late night poker games and things like. 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.280 That, I'm not doing that. I really I don't remember 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:48.880 putting that in the episode but now I feel like 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.880 you're telling my business. I'm not playing black jack anymore online, 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:57.480 and yeah, I'm not doing that, So that's. 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:58.560 Good, I think for me. 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.960 You told me about duck duck Go, which listen, I 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.359 have seen commercials, I've seen ads, and it just goes 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:06.400 in one ear and out the other. I never registered 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:09.960 what duck duck go was, but now I'm like, Okay, 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.320 well that's the place to do all of your searching 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.320 because it's really protected. I feel like they should have 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.440 came with a better name, like, yeah, what was duck 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:18.879 duck go? 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.440 What are we doing here? How is anybody just to 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:22.080 know what that is? 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.320 But yes, so duck dug go is definitely something that 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.400 I have implemented into my life to keep my things 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:31.480 a little bit more secure. 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.320 And my favorite thing about duck dug go is that 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.119 they give a rating to the website so you can 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.199 see the websites that are tracking you the most. And 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.080 I'd just like to point out we're not sponsored by them. 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:40.960 We just like it. 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.840 Somebody asked me where we sponsored by Yiddy from our 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:48.720 previous episode on Shape, where I. 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.320 Was like no, And at the end of the episode, 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.080 it goes this episode was brought to you by Yddi 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:53.600 and Duck Duck Go. 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.399 Well, I'm glad to know that it's not just me 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:06.240 and it's not just you taking cybersecurity series. Now, the 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.240 United States government is finally showing up to the party too. 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:13.520 The State Department just opens the Bureau of Cyberspace and 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.880 Digital Policy in April, and so we got our country's 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:18.920 first cyber ambassador in September. 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:20.640 That makes me feel good. 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.520 Now, I don't know what they're doing. I want to 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:28.160 be really really clear. Yeah, but I feel like it's 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.080 only going to become more and more important. It's people 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:34.040 start talking about moving to the metaverse, and I just 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:37.320 saw some people having a conversation in the metaverse and 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:40.960 having like digital avatars of their entire selves, and I 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:42.280 was like, that is so cool, But how do you 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:47.920 keep somebody from hacking a whole you? Now, we talked 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:51.119 about cyberspace, but we also turned our eye to just 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:53.240 regular old scary. 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:57.119 Space everything out there. 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:01.320 And we had a really great episode with doctor Jordan Bim. 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.960 Hi, Doctor Shodia, and doctor WATTLEE. This is Jordan bim 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.720 Congratulations on your semester finale. I recently started teaching my 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.960 course Explorations of Mars again here at the University of 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:14.520 Chicago to a mix of space sciences and humanity students. 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:18.000 Together we explore humanity's long standing fascination with the Red 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:21.720 planet in history, science and culture. This week in class, 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.600 I told my students to tune in and watch SpaceX's 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.880 launch of the Crew five mission to the ISS. More 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.359 than just another human commercial spaceflight, launch, Crew five is 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:35.240 the first commercial spaceflight commanded by a woman NASA astronaut 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.200 Nicole Man. And Nicole Man, who is a member of 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.600 the Wylacki tribe, is also the first indigenous woman in space. 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:45.680 So some really important history in diversifying our human presence 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.639 in space has just taken place. Wishing you both and 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:50.760 the entire Dope Labs team all the best. 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:53.000 This was so cool. 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.240 Nicole Man is mission commander and she will be on 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.680 the ISS for the next five months. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:02.120 Five months is a long time. I can't even imagine 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:04.119 what we're going to be talking about in five months. 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:05.520 Things change so fast. 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:09.359 I mean just even thinking about this semester and what 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.560 has happened over the last year when we're talking about 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.880 Lab thirty seven, like wow, yeah, it feels like way 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:20.800 more than a year ago. It feels like ten years ago. 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:24.760 It feels like a couple months ago. The most important 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:29.600 thing on my radar, second to COVID was monkey pox. 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:34.119 Yes, and now it feels like no one is talking 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:36.960 about it. So we were really excited to talk to 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:40.239 Kenyon Farah again, who is one of our experts on 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:41.640 our monkeypox episode. 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:44.119 Thank you for the invitation to just give you a 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.040 little bit of an update about what's been happening in 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.879 terms of the monkey pox outbreak in the United States. 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:55.440 The good news is that we've seen really incredible declines 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:59.639 in monkey pox infections around the country, So this is. 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.000 Really good news on the monkey pox front, as Kenyon 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:06.200 just mentioned, and an axious report said that in Washington, 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.920 d C. There's been a seventy percent drop in cases 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:11.080 within the past month. 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:17.000 Similarly, the Department of Public Health in Georgia also said 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:21.719 that there was a decrease in new monkeypox cases. So 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.400 it feels like maybe we're turning this thing around. 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:27.560 But that doesn't mean that we're necessarily out of the woods, 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:30.879