1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: It's hard to believe, but Semester four is coming to 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: a close. 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 2: I can't believe it. 4 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: This was a huge semester for Dope Labs. We went 5 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: from bi weekly to weekly episodes and we have covered 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: so much. 7 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 3: So for our last two laps of the semester, we 8 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 3: decided that we were going to get back in touch 9 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: with a few of our favorite guest experts to hear 10 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 3: updates from their fields. Think of this as like Semester 11 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 3: four's greatest hits, you know, like when Diddy did Diddy 12 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: and the Bad Boy Family and all of them came 13 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: together and made that Dope album. 14 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah like that. 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: Welcome to Dope, a weekly podcast that makes this hardcore 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 3: science pop culture and a healthy does of friendship. 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: Okay, let's get into it. We're going all the way 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: back to our first lab of the semester. 19 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: Now it's a long time ago. 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: The number was Lab thirty seven then and now we're 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: all the way at Lab eighty three. 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: Yes, I remember all the way back to Lab thirty seven, 23 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 3: and it was so exciting because it was our first 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: lab back for the semester and it was all about 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: science denial. 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: And we were in the throes of the. 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: Pandemic, seeing a lot of stuff online that just was 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 3: not true about the virus, about the vaccine, and so 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: we had a lot of questions about why people were 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: falling for what we felt like was the okie doke. 31 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 3: And so I'm really excited to hear an update from 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 3: our guests and see what they've been up to since 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: Lab thirty seven. 34 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 4: I'm Gil Sinantra, the co author of Science Denial, Why 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 4: it Happens and what to do about it. 36 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 5: I'm Barbara Hoefer, co author of Science Denial. 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 4: In the year since our book was published and we 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 4: appeared on Dope Labs, Science Denial has not waned. 39 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 5: What remains deeply disconcerting to us is the number of 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 5: individuals who rely on the opinions of others rather than 41 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 5: scientific knowledge and expertise, to make uninformed decisions that can 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 5: have deadly consequences. 43 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: You know, when we think about evaluation of science, you 44 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: think about thoughtful, deliberative approaches to examining evidence and assessing 45 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: expertise when somebody is giving you information. But what we 46 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: know is the way we get information, and sometimes information 47 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: and reasoning about science is done through crowdsourcing, and it's 48 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: based on how you feel about the person giving you 49 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: the information, So if they are your friends on Facebook, 50 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: or if it's the beliefs of a social group you're in, 51 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: or however you choose to identify, whatever they're believing, you're 52 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: likely to believe. 53 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: Doctors Hofer and Sinatra also have a few reminders about 54 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: what you can do to address science denial. 55 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: First, vote for those who support science and who base 56 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 5: related policy decisions on scientific evidence. We will not effectively 57 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 5: address climate change or the pandemic without leadership that values science. Second, 58 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 5: enhance your own digital literacy and make sure you're not 59 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 5: complicent in sharing misinformation. Third, practice listening and communication skills 60 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 5: and take the risk to talk with those who have 61 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 5: differing views. This may be especially helpful with the holidays 62 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 5: coming up. 63 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: You know, we just touched on misinformation in our last 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: lab on social media with doctor Jeff Hancock. The problem 65 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: is not going away, it's only growing. And this also 66 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: feels related to Lab seventy five with David mcrainey Can 67 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: you Change Someone's mind? In that lab, we kind of 68 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: explore the group identity the US verse them, and how 69 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: being in a group makes us hold on to certain 70 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: beliefs even if they don't hold up compared to the science. 71 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: Just listen to the disparities that doctor Hofer mentions. 72 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 5: A July twenty twenty two national survey showed that twenty 73 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 5: nine percent of Republicans did not plan on getting vaccinated 74 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 5: more than a year after vaccinations became widely available and 75 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,279 Speaker 5: free to the US public, compared to nine percent of Democrats. 76 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 5: This disparity has become a significant public health challenge. 77 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: So thinking back to what we learned in Lab seventy five, right, 78 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: you start to see these disparities based on whatever your 79 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: social group in this case political party chooses to believe 80 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: or chooses to follow. So if you have a group 81 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: who says not to vaccines, what does the science tells 82 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: about vaccines That it protects you from death from infectious 83 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: diseases and stuff. And so if your group is saying 84 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: nota vaccines, then you start to see these differences in morbidity, 85 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: in death rate. And that's exactly what we saw with COVID. 86 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: So really, what we're seeing our trends, it's not that, oh, 87 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: if you are a Republican you are biologically predisposed to 88 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: rejecting a vaccine. We're seeing that which is something that 89 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: we've also talked about in other episodes is that your 90 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: social bubble is usually a reflection of who you are. 91 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: So it's usually people who are the same religion, same 92 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: socioeconomic status, same political views, and so these are trends 93 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: that are happening within social circles. You tend to do 94 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 3: what people from your social circle are doing rather than 95 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: thinking individually, because we all feel a little bit more 96 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: comfortable when we are doing something that is of what 97 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: we feel like our culture, so what culturally fits for us. 98 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: Yes, and it's wild that we're still talking about this 99 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: because LAP thirty seven was a long time ago. 100 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: And since that episode aired, there have been boosters that 101 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: come out to address the new emerging variants of COVID, 102 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 3: And what the studies are saying is that if eighty 103 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: percent of Americans eligible for the latest COVID nineteen booster 104 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: get vaccinated by year's end, so the end of twenty 105 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 3: twenty two, it could save about ninety thousand lives and 106 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: more than nine hundred and thirty six thousand hospitalizations. 107 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: And listen, if you take all this information into account, 108 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: you say, yeah, I know how upset we all were 109 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: and how terrible we felt about being at home. But 110 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is that only thirty six 111 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: percent of adults older than fifty have gotten their boosters, 112 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: and that makes it really tricky when we consider the 113 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: potential winter surge with the flu and COVID. 114 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 6: Uh. 115 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: That's a tough mix. 116 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 3: Right, Joe Biden says the pandemic is over. I don't 117 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 3: know if the CDC agrees. 118 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: Joe Biden had to come back and clarify his remarks, 119 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: and that should show you even the President can get 120 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: it wrong. 121 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: Right. 122 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: It's easy to speak casually about what's happening for you 123 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: now or how it feels. Sometimes I don't want to 124 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: look at those cold, hard facts in the mirror. You know. 125 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: It's not specific to the pandemic either. I know you 126 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: called me out all the time when my. 127 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: Now sunk eats. Uh uh. 128 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: When I misinformed today, I said I had stopped interrupting people, 129 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: and TT said, oh wow. I said I had stopped, 130 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: but I'm back, and TT you just said, oh wow, 131 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: I didn't realize you were gone. And I was like, well, 132 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't. But did I want to hear that? 133 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 5: No? 134 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: Did I spread a misinformation? 135 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, we're all trying our best. We're trying our best, 136 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: but it's true. 137 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: Misinformation is not just limited to the pandemic. It also 138 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: is still affecting the public's attitudes towards everything from elections 139 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: to climate change. Yes, so go back and listen to 140 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: our first episode from this season, Lab thirty seven, to 141 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: find out more about the psychological reasons for science doubt, resistance, 142 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: and denial, and for more ideas about what you can 143 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: do to promote scientific thinking in general. Okay, so now 144 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: we're jumping ahead just a couple of weeks to Lab 145 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: thirty nine, and that was called ads a Cart where 146 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: we talked to guest expert and author of Arriving Today 147 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: from Factory to Front Door, Christopher Mems. I've been wanting 148 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 3: to hear from Christopher Mems because I've been seeing all 149 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: kinds of stuff. 150 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: I was in Paris. There was a mustard shortage, particularly 151 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: Dejon mustard. Okay, I saw that there was a tampon 152 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: shortage for a minute. There's also a formula shortage milk 153 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: for the babies. 154 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: We need that. 155 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: We just keep seeing things missing. But then also when 156 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: I go to the stores, the Christmas stuff is out 157 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: with the Halloween stuff. 158 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: Exactly, and I'm just waiting on those curtains that I 159 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,559 Speaker 3: had ordered way back at lap thirty nine. 160 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 7: Hello. Hello, this is Christopher Mems checking back in from 161 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 7: the shipping episode. Just a quick update. Since we last talked, 162 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 7: so much material has flowed through the world's supply chains 163 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 7: that there is now an oversupply at stores, so you 164 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 7: can look for discounts at your nearest big box store 165 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 7: and of course at online retailers. 166 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: When I saw this was happening, I immediately said, oh baby, 167 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: the sales are going to be on and popping. 168 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: I thought the. 169 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: Same thing too, but you know, with every action there 170 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 3: is an eco on opposite reaction, and that applies in 171 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: this case too. You know, retailers like Target and Walmart 172 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: they're having really big sales before the holiday season just 173 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 3: to get rid of some of this oversupply that Christopher's 174 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: talking about. 175 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 7: However, this is not universally good news for the people 176 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 7: who work in those supply chains, because as the price 177 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 7: for shipping over the ocean and trucking on our highways 178 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 7: has crashed inevitably, that means layoffs and the collapse of 179 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 7: small trucking companies. So as ever, this is a very 180 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 7: cyclical industry, and what happens is that there's a contraction, 181 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 7: people get laid off, and then that kind of sets 182 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 7: us up for the next supply chain snafuo because there 183 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 7: are not enough people and not enough capacity in that 184 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 7: pipeline for the next time that we have a pandemic 185 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 7: or some other issue. And this may be contributing to 186 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 7: ongoing inflation, which of course we're all feeling in our 187 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 7: pocketbooks these days. 188 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: Yes, inflation is real. People are also doing their holiday 189 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: shopping earth to avoid the potential rising prices due to inflation. 190 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: And if you're still wondering what inflation is, go back 191 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: to Lab seventy nine, which we did with doctor Vanessa Perry. 192 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: That's about the current US economy and it talks about recessions, 193 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: inflation and interest rates. 194 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 7: Thank you for the opportunity to check in with you, 195 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 7: and as ever, this will be an ongoing story. We 196 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 7: can't forget where everything that we buy and everything that 197 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 7: we rely on actually comes from. 198 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 3: I know we've been talking about winter holidays, you know, 199 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 3: an inflation receession and all these things like that, But 200 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: last time I checked the CBS, the target they have 201 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: put out the Halloween candy, and so that made us 202 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: think about our episode with doctor Marcus Johnson when we 203 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: talked about teeth. 204 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 6: Hey everyone, doctor Marcus Johnson. Dental specialists just want to 205 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 6: give a big shout out to the Dope Labs team, 206 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 6: thanks for bringing me back on just to give you 207 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 6: guys a few tips or safe and healthy Halloween. For one, 208 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 6: you have little kids, make sure that they're brushing and 209 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 6: floshing every night. We don't want those sugar bugs to 210 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 6: get in there and causing any cavities. And speaking of cavities, 211 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 6: a great way to keep those out. We already know 212 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 6: what an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. 213 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 6: So go to your local dentists. Make sure that you 214 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 6: ask for ceilings. They're good for kids and for adults. 215 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 6: What's happening, what's going on? What's new in dentistry. We 216 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 6: have the Greater New York Dental Meeting that's gonna be 217 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 6: happening November twenty fifth through November thirtieth at the Jacob 218 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 6: Javid Center. All guests are welcome, Registration is free. You 219 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 6: can go there, walk around, find out about new advancements, 220 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 6: new products, and new technology within dentistry. Tons of free giveaway, 221 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 6: and you're gonna learn a lot as well. So hey, everybody, 222 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 6: stay safe, stay healthy, and go easy on the sweets. 223 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 6: Take care. 224 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: Some candy is worse for your teeth than others. I 225 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: think that's really important to know. Now you might not 226 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: want to hear this, but chocolate does the least amount 227 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: of damage. I'm not really a chocolate lover, but it 228 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: does damage because it melts away really fast, and it's 229 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: the sticky stuff and the sour stuff that tends to 230 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: stick on your tooth enamel and do more damage. And 231 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: so that's also why I'd like to come out that 232 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: even though I am on Team Dope Labs and we've 233 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: previously voted on this, I still think candy corn is trash, 234 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: trash and dangerous to the teeth. 235 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: Now you're just grasping at straws, y'all just kind of 236 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 3: come up with reasons for people to stop eating candy corn. No, no, no, 237 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: I will not be tricked. Candy corn is a delicious treat. 238 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: I will brush my teeth afterwards. 239 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: Well I'm glad you will, because what I didn't realize 240 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: is that November first, right after Halloween, is actually National 241 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: brush Day. So go ahead and get your candy corn 242 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: bingje in, but just make sure you're hitting those back 243 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: molars and you're hitting them right. 244 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: I hope everybody's brushing their teeth every day National brush Day. 245 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 3: Every day's National brush Day in this house, but I 246 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: understand the celebration. 247 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you see what I have to put 248 00:12:59,080 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: up with. 249 00:12:59,320 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 6: Y'all. 250 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: Let's take a break. When we come back, we'll hear 251 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:23,479 Speaker 1: from more of our favorite guests and some listeners too. 252 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: Hey tg, hey, Sekia. 253 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 8: It is me a long time listener Cat. I just 254 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 8: want to say thanks for all you do. I really 255 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 8: enjoyed the mind the Gap episode. It just really spoke 256 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 8: to me as a librarian and everything we see out 257 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 8: here and how we aren't really all on the same 258 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 8: age digitally. So thank you guys so much for covering 259 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 8: all you do. And take care guys. 260 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: That was longtime listener Cat. 261 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 3: And let me tell you I follow Kat on social 262 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: I think we both do follow Kat on social media, 263 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 3: and so we are always on top of when she's 264 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: going to different like comic con events, and she does 265 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: cosplay so much fun. I love watching her put her 266 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 3: outfits together and getting all the pieces and making sure 267 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: everything's just right. I'm like, yes, Cat, you nailed that one. 268 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: And she also listens to Dope Labs when she goes 269 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: for runs, so she runs long distance and she puts 270 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: us in her ears to push her through her run. 271 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: Maybe it's like torture. It's like, ah, let me hurry 272 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: up and finish. 273 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: Kat brought up to Mind the Gap episode that was 274 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: really exploring the differences in internet access in urban and 275 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: rural areas, and even access to devices and being able 276 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: to keep up with this continuously growing digital age. H 277 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: And that reminds me of another episode that was definitely 278 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: a fave for us that touched on cybersecurity with Christina Marilla. 279 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: Yes, and this is such a great topic to bring 280 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: up because the new UK Prime Minister, Liz Trust her 281 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: mobile phone was just hacked. And in situations like these, 282 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: what's at stake for consumers and citizens when those in 283 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: charge of their government gets hacked. 284 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 9: That's a great question because the fact of the matter 285 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 9: is that anyone can be hacked, right However, the good 286 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 9: news is that we are all empowered to protect ourselves 287 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 9: and each other or our data and our friends and 288 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 9: families data. So just because someone from the government is hacked. Obviously, 289 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 9: their third model is a little bit different. They're in 290 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 9: the public eye, so there are different precautions and just 291 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 9: you know, steps that they have to take to make 292 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 9: sure that their technology is secure at all times. Right, 293 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 9: it's not a one and done thing. Well, as consumers, 294 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 9: we don't have to rely on like a tech department 295 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 9: to do that. We can actually do that ourselves. 296 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't have whole team, but I do feel 297 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: like the prime minister of my house, So yes, what 298 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: do I need to do? 299 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 9: The first thing that we can do is educate ourselves 300 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 9: and understand what are the things that are at risk? Right, 301 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 9: So that could be your bank account information, your logging, 302 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 9: your passwords, basically access to your crown jewels. Right, there's 303 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 9: so much information out there on how to take steps 304 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 9: to protect your online accounts, your digital identity. 305 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: And I feel like some of the things that Christina 306 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: told us in our previous episode, right, I tried to implement. Yes, 307 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not connecting to every old random Wi Fi. 308 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: I stopped doing that. 309 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: What about those late night poker games and things like. 310 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: That, I'm not doing that. I really I don't remember 311 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: putting that in the episode but now I feel like 312 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: you're telling my business. I'm not playing black jack anymore online, 313 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm not doing that, So that's. 314 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: Good, I think for me. 315 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: You told me about duck duck Go, which listen, I 316 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: have seen commercials, I've seen ads, and it just goes 317 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 3: in one ear and out the other. I never registered 318 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: what duck duck go was, but now I'm like, Okay, 319 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: well that's the place to do all of your searching 320 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: because it's really protected. I feel like they should have 321 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 3: came with a better name, like, yeah, what was duck 322 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 3: duck go? 323 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: What are we doing here? How is anybody just to 324 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: know what that is? 325 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: But yes, so duck dug go is definitely something that 326 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 3: I have implemented into my life to keep my things 327 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: a little bit more secure. 328 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: And my favorite thing about duck dug go is that 329 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: they give a rating to the website so you can 330 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: see the websites that are tracking you the most. And 331 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: I'd just like to point out we're not sponsored by them. 332 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: We just like it. 333 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: Somebody asked me where we sponsored by Yiddy from our 334 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: previous episode on Shape, where I. 335 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: Was like no, And at the end of the episode, 336 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: it goes this episode was brought to you by Yddi 337 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: and Duck Duck Go. 338 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad to know that it's not just me 339 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: and it's not just you taking cybersecurity series. Now, the 340 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: United States government is finally showing up to the party too. 341 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: The State Department just opens the Bureau of Cyberspace and 342 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: Digital Policy in April, and so we got our country's 343 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: first cyber ambassador in September. 344 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 2: That makes me feel good. 345 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: Now, I don't know what they're doing. I want to 346 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: be really really clear. Yeah, but I feel like it's 347 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: only going to become more and more important. It's people 348 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: start talking about moving to the metaverse, and I just 349 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: saw some people having a conversation in the metaverse and 350 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: having like digital avatars of their entire selves, and I 351 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: was like, that is so cool, But how do you 352 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: keep somebody from hacking a whole you? Now, we talked 353 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: about cyberspace, but we also turned our eye to just 354 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: regular old scary. 355 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: Space everything out there. 356 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: And we had a really great episode with doctor Jordan Bim. 357 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 10: Hi, Doctor Shodia, and doctor WATTLEE. This is Jordan bim 358 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 10: Congratulations on your semester finale. I recently started teaching my 359 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 10: course Explorations of Mars again here at the University of 360 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 10: Chicago to a mix of space sciences and humanity students. 361 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 10: Together we explore humanity's long standing fascination with the Red 362 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 10: planet in history, science and culture. This week in class, 363 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 10: I told my students to tune in and watch SpaceX's 364 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 10: launch of the Crew five mission to the ISS. More 365 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 10: than just another human commercial spaceflight, launch, Crew five is 366 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 10: the first commercial spaceflight commanded by a woman NASA astronaut 367 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 10: Nicole Man. And Nicole Man, who is a member of 368 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 10: the Wylacki tribe, is also the first indigenous woman in space. 369 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 10: So some really important history in diversifying our human presence 370 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 10: in space has just taken place. Wishing you both and 371 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 10: the entire Dope Labs team all the best. 372 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: This was so cool. 373 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: Nicole Man is mission commander and she will be on 374 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 3: the ISS for the next five months. 375 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: Five months is a long time. I can't even imagine 376 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: what we're going to be talking about in five months. 377 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: Things change so fast. 378 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 3: I mean just even thinking about this semester and what 379 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 3: has happened over the last year when we're talking about 380 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 3: Lab thirty seven, like wow, yeah, it feels like way 381 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: more than a year ago. It feels like ten years ago. 382 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: It feels like a couple months ago. The most important 383 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: thing on my radar, second to COVID was monkey pox. 384 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 3: Yes, and now it feels like no one is talking 385 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: about it. So we were really excited to talk to 386 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 3: Kenyon Farah again, who is one of our experts on 387 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 3: our monkeypox episode. 388 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 11: Thank you for the invitation to just give you a 389 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 11: little bit of an update about what's been happening in 390 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 11: terms of the monkey pox outbreak in the United States. 391 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 11: The good news is that we've seen really incredible declines 392 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 11: in monkey pox infections around the country, So this is. 393 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: Really good news on the monkey pox front, as Kenyon 394 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 3: just mentioned, and an axious report said that in Washington, 395 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 3: d C. There's been a seventy percent drop in cases 396 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: within the past month. 397 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: Similarly, the Department of Public Health in Georgia also said 398 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 1: that there was a decrease in new monkeypox cases. So 399 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: it feels like maybe we're turning this thing around. 400 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 11: But that doesn't mean that we're necessarily out of the woods, 401 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 11: because we still have a large proportion of the population 402 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 11: who may be a risk for monkey pox who have 403 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 11: yet to be vaccinated. 404 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 3: So what Kenyon says that we need is resources and 405 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: research to help get us out of this potential crisis. 406 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: One of the things that Kenyon says that we need 407 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 3: is for Congress to fund monkey pox's treatment, vaccine access, 408 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 3: and research. 409 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 11: And that includes also funding more of the COVID response, 410 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 11: which could potentially help us with sort of vaccine distribution 411 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 11: for both COVID and for monkey pox. Wreever for all 412 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 11: is requesting that Congress authorized twenty six point nine billion 413 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 11: dollars as requested by the White House, which includes four 414 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 11: point six billion for the US global response and nine 415 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 11: point five billion for research and development for medical tools 416 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 11: to treat and prevent both of these diseases. 417 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: Kenyon says, the second thing that we should be asking 418 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: for is a very specific research agenda. He looks to 419 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: the CDC and the National Institutes of Health, particularly the 420 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases to answer questions 421 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: about monkey pox that are still urgent and kind of unknown, 422 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: like how long and how well do the vaccines work 423 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: and pre or post exposure, what is the best way 424 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: to use treatments to prevent infection. 425 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 11: And we also need to know if and where an 426 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 11: animal reservoir monkey pox is established as a result of 427 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 11: the current outbreak. So those are some of the things 428 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 11: that we're requesting from Congress, both in terms of funding 429 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 11: and a research agenda to make sure that we are 430 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 11: in fact able to end the outbreak of monkey pox 431 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 11: and won't see another's fight in the country anytime. 432 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: Soon, understanding that there's still so much work to do, 433 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: even with things trending up. It reminds me of what 434 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: Kenyon said in his episode before when we were talking 435 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: about monkey pox, and that is that infectious disease tends 436 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: to follow lines of structural oppression. And that's what we've 437 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: seen with monkey pox, is what we saw with COVID, 438 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: is what we've seen with HIV. I mean, we just 439 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: keep seeing it with the science all around. We see 440 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: it with sleep disparities. 441 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 3: Yes, in the sleep episode, doctor Jean Luis was talking 442 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 3: about how sleep disparities you could see it. 443 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: By zip code. 444 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 3: People who live in a certain zip code, they have 445 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 3: these different experiences from others. So when we think about that, 446 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 3: it's really important that you know, resources are funneled to 447 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 3: the right places. So the CDC is doing just that 448 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 3: and setting aside fifty thousand doses of genios facts for 449 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: black and Hispanic men, who account for the majority of 450 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: monkeypox cases but who may have faced barriers accessing the vaccine. 451 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 2: This was a really good update. 452 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: I so appreciate it hearing from some of our guests 453 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: from this season t T. This semester had a lot 454 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: of episodes. 455 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: Yes, going from bide weekly to weekly. 456 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: We had the labs come in rapid fire, so we 457 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 3: couldn't just fit everything into one finale. We had to 458 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 3: have two finale, So make sure that you tune in 459 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 3: next week where we're giving more updates on some of 460 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 3: our favorite labs from this season and hearing some more 461 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 3: feedback from all of you. 462 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: That's it for Lab eighty three. What other episodes do 463 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: you have questions about? And I want to know what 464 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: was your favorite episode? 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