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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: We are back. It's Coast to Coast AM. Connie willis

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Speaker 2: here talking with Tom Katcantreil, fifth Generation of the West,

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Speaker 2: nine years in the US Navy. It goes on and

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Speaker 2: on and on, and then Bigfoot comes into his life.

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Speaker 2: He sees them eating, he sees them living life. He

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Speaker 2: salutes them, He has a great time with him. He

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Speaker 2: knows them, and we got to get back into the

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Speaker 2: story that he was going into because we stopped you

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Speaker 2: right at the climax. By the way, you can learn

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Speaker 2: more about Tom Katcantrell by going to his website and

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Speaker 2: check out as many books and the different essays that

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Speaker 2: he has to tomcantrell dot com. That's th h O

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Speaker 2: M c A N t r A l l dot com.

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Speaker 2: You can always go to Coast TOCOASTAM dot com our

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Speaker 2: website and you can look up his bio and his

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Speaker 2: information there. You'll see all the links and stuff like

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Speaker 2: that too. So all right, Tom, you got to catch

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Speaker 2: us back up where we were in the story.

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Speaker 3: Okay. I was just had been tracking them down the

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Speaker 3: mountain and into Blue Creek drainage and found some burned

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Speaker 3: out big fir trees there, you know, six seventh day

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Speaker 3: foot across, as those would make a great tint for

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Speaker 3: me tonight, I won't have set up my tent, and

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Speaker 3: I threw my slooping bag in there, walked up the

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Speaker 3: stream a couple of hundred yards to make sure there

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Speaker 3: weren't any dead deer laying in the stream before I

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Speaker 3: took water out to make coffee. And I did notice

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Speaker 3: in the you know, in my my tree tent, that

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Speaker 3: there were some long black hairs in there, but I

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Speaker 3: thought that was probably had been. It had been a

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Speaker 3: bear's hibernation den for the winter, and since I didn't

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Speaker 3: plan on being there until winter when the bears came back,

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Speaker 3: I didn't make it'ld be a problem. But long in

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Speaker 3: the evening it was it was getting dark. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: dark yet, but it was on its way. I started

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Speaker 3: hearing these howls coming first from one bridge stop, just

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Speaker 3: a long owl, and then from the other ridge answering

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Speaker 3: it same thing, And they kept getting closer and closer

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Speaker 3: and closer. Finally I could see three shapes, and you know,

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Speaker 3: just just barely out of mind. There was just enough

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Speaker 3: and so I started talking to them, Hi, guys, what

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Speaker 3: are you doing? You know, I'd st like to meet you.

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Speaker 3: You know. I came all this way and they came

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Speaker 3: in close, I mean close enough there was it was

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Speaker 3: a family group. It was a male and female and

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Speaker 3: a juvenile and a Cubanot kept sneaking in and had

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Speaker 3: a stick in his danity'd at the tree that I

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Speaker 3: was in, and I moved around so that I had

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Speaker 3: my fire behind me so it wouldn't be in my

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Speaker 3: eyes because you can't see if you're looking at a

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Speaker 3: fire fire, you can't see into the night at all.

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Speaker 3: If you said, with it behind you, you can you

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Speaker 3: can see out pretty well in the light up your area.

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Speaker 3: And that's what it did. And I swear he was

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Speaker 3: trying to communicate with me. Now, he never used telepathy

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Speaker 3: at this time, not at all, but I swear he was.

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Speaker 3: If you listened to run where it's capes and I

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Speaker 3: sure you have, I'm sure you have. It was the

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Speaker 3: same thing that that what they call samurai chatter.

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Speaker 2: Oh really that's what you're hearing?

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Speaker 3: Wow? Oh yeah, yeah. And he was very much trying

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Speaker 2: And this was a juvenile, right, the juvenile.

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Speaker 3: Well, this was the large male. Oh daddy, He just

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Speaker 3: for getting too close to back off, chak half cup

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Speaker 3: again and hit the tree again, just like a I mean,

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Speaker 3: who gets in more trouble in any speces? And juvenile males.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, adolescent males maybe, and they are. But

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Speaker 3: that went on all long, and finally all it must

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Speaker 3: have been an hour before daylight. I finally was so

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Speaker 3: and it was just absolutely a fantastic occurrence. Then it

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Speaker 3: just camp escalating from there, and in twenty fourteen we

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Speaker 3: wonderful time. We came around driving into camp one the

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Speaker 3: the fourteen mile mark. There's two of them standing right

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Speaker 3: the lady in the front seat with me was Jackie Thomas.

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Speaker 3: Jackie was over from England for this outing and she

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Speaker 3: just yelled out as loud as she could and collad

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Speaker 3: Arli Williams was the hellow and she woke up when

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Speaker 3: Jackie held they turned and took two steps from over

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Speaker 3: the bank. And where they where they went over the

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Speaker 3: bank was right into the headwaters of Bluff Creek, oh

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Speaker 3: where we were direct mileage. It was about three and

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Speaker 3: a half miles to where the petty film syploks that

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Speaker 3: told you exactly where we were. Yeah, but I gotta

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Speaker 3: tell you the funny part of this, Now, that was

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Speaker 3: a milepost fourteen. Our camp is a mile post thirty four,

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Speaker 3: Jackie had talked herself out of having seen two sasquatch

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Speaker 3: in the road in front of the car. She had

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Speaker 3: seen two Mexican drug mules wearing long red Willie suits

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Speaker 2: That happens a lot. Describe that, because that happens a lot,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it it does.

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Speaker 3: What it is is her mind didn't know what sasquatch was.

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Speaker 3: It knew it like drug drug neils were. It didn't

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Speaker 3: know what long hair flowing was, but it knew what

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Speaker 3: but it knew what flip flops were. And her mind

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Speaker 3: just retreated from what she's seen back to what it knew. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and we were in camp two or three, four more

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Speaker 3: days and finally she's talking about it one day and

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to you know, Jackie, that's not what happened,

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Speaker 3: that's not what you saw, and Alla came up. She's Jackie,

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Speaker 3: you've traveled six thousand miles to be here from mainland

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Speaker 3: to see what you saw, and now your mind's not

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Speaker 2: It's true. It scrambled to find something different because it's

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Speaker 2: like does not compute, does not compute it's not entered

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right. Yes, before I dropped her, that got her.

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Speaker 3: A few days later, she had it straightened out and

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Speaker 3: she understood what she see And if we talked to

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Speaker 3: her today, she'll tell you the whole story and how

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Speaker 3: it worked. Yeah, when we saw I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: I mean full body sighting. Wow, Kathy, Kathy, but was

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Speaker 3: at night with the youngsters. About the third night in camp,

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Speaker 3: she came to the next to third, fourth morning, third morning,

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Speaker 3: something like that, she came to our fire and she

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Speaker 3: her poor eyesight to burnhold's in the blanket. She was

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Speaker 3: so tired she couldn't hardly keep her eyes open. And

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Speaker 3: artist is Jackie, what's wrong? Aren't you getting any sleep?

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Speaker 3: She says, No, they're keeping me awake all night long. Artists, Jackie,

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Speaker 3: needs you sleep, can I g Yeah, of course you can't,

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Speaker 3: our Jackie, Kabby, And of course you can't. Okay, guys,

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Speaker 3: tonight I need my fleet. Go play with Nancy and Roussell.

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Speaker 3: Nancy and Russ are two other people in camp with us,

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Speaker 3: and they were sleeping in hammocks. That's the night that

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Speaker 3: the term that's watch Benatta was born. Oh what those

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Speaker 2: People don't understand that they truly do these pranks and

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Speaker 2: how fun they do that.

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Speaker 3: Man moving right along, because there is one story that

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Speaker 3: I can't not tell. We did my partner Brian Planned

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Speaker 3: and our partner Sue Funkhauser and I did a study

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Speaker 3: on glyphs and structures up in BC. We spent five

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Speaker 3: up there to work, you just wouldn't believe. We got

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Speaker 3: to know the whole clan up there, and the clan

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Speaker 3: leader as a great big guy. He's about twelve feet

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Speaker 3: tall and he's white. And his daughter Roger say at

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Speaker 3: that time it was about eighteen years old. She just

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Speaker 3: was taken a mate to a mate while we were there,

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Speaker 3: and just as the quick as side of the want

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Speaker 3: way they do this. They have a semi annual meeting

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Speaker 3: is where it comes up. Fallen say needs the mate

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Speaker 3: because they know the dangers of end breathing. She went

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Speaker 3: to Oklahoma to get her mate. To meet her mate.

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Speaker 3: I was telling Arla about this the day that I

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Speaker 3: of all, she's the only one I've ever seen that

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Speaker 3: blue eyes. Oh, and her hair head. Her hair looks

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Speaker 3: very unusual. And I started to explain this to Arla.

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Speaker 3: I was waiting, I've seen her, and she's wait a minute.

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Speaker 3: She went and got her newebook, came back and she

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Speaker 3: said she was here. There's a big guy there that

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Speaker 3: turned out to be that fellow's son. But she read

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Speaker 3: that back to me. Bert bade him what she had

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Speaker 3: seen and it was brought to say to a teen

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Speaker 3: so she hadn't seen her when she was in Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: They she spent time there with with the fortuner, and

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Speaker 3: then when they were when they decided that's what they

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Speaker 3: unless he's needed in his plan, and he wasn't there.

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Speaker 3: There were other males. He came back with her and

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Speaker 3: they they got well that natural order of things again.

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Speaker 3: At that meeting, they decide who's going to have children here.

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Speaker 3: They only have children about once Ember six to seven

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Speaker 3: years to keep their population lowe. They do that on purpose. Okay, now,

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Speaker 3: when they do that, it was their time. She was pregnant.

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Speaker 3: I got the invitation to come join them for the birth.

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Speaker 3: I traveled there. I was sitting with eighteen male sasquatch

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Speaker 3: watching her give birth. Her mother was her midwife. The

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Speaker 3: baby was born, and you've never seen anything secute in

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Speaker 3: your life, A little about twenty three twenty four inch

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Speaker 3: take it to the creek and dip it into the

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Speaker 3: creek and moisure and of course she lets you know

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Speaker 3: what he thinks of that real quick way. What's sort

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Speaker 3: of the same purpose as our baby, swapping them on

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Speaker 3: the bet when they're born, right to get some lungs working.

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Speaker 3: I get some breathing straw it right. Well, the thing is,

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Speaker 3: they're sitting there and they went she went back to Jay,

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Speaker 3: and I couldn't figure out what they were doing. Was

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