1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is not brought to you 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: by Fan Duel. Welcome back to another edition of the 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Jnsas and 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: I am joined by Room Feldling Heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: then Greg Rose. What is up boys? New money drop there? 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: I happened to come in here yesterday when our friend 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Matt money Smith, the Pipes of the West Coast as 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: we call him, he was recording all of those money drops, 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: and what a pro. I saw him do it. And 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: he did three different recordings for each one, like you know, 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: emphasizing words a little differently, trying to be funny in 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: a different way so that TV could choose, you know, 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: which he liked the best. And he had no lie, 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: a glass of wine in front of him and class 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: that coats the throat eleven in the morning. I can 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: tell you I can offer a little context of that. 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: He I would assume immediately where I would hope proceeding 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: taping the money drops. He took part in the twentieth 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: annual Check He's Damna Check football program, his awards ceremony 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: where I was robbed and best non football player guest, 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: Me and Money both lost out to Marcus Grant the 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: Fantasy Team, which you know, Mark a good guy. What 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: about Mark? And Mark didn't even get nominated. Mark Sessler 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: should have been on that list. I don't think I've 25 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: even appeared on that show. Into Less Less got snubbed 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: all together. It's an outrage. So anyway, Marcus Grant is 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: a great a fantasy writer and a good person. But frankly, 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, I felt wildly disrespected this and the pie 29 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: competition which Dave. I think Dave had some issues within 30 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: me at the time and it led to him eliminating 31 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: me by competition. Um, I will do a thirty for 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: thirty on that one day. I should have went back 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: to back to back as a champion, but I didn't 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: check out the check. He's though the way of getting 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: to that, which you're very gold on YouTube. It's an 36 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: excellent program. Money's line reminds me of a Jerry Rice story. 37 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 1: He came in here to do uh the social media 38 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: gig and was sitting right next to me ten thirty 39 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: in the morning, and you know, his handlers come in 40 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: and they say, can we get you anything to drink? 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, I'll have a glass of wine 42 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: please at ten thirty in the morning. When you're the goat, 43 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: I guess you can change the way society looks at 44 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: when it's okay to drink wine. Yeah, Money had a 45 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: three hour long, uh big time radio show to do 46 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: later that they says he had just taken a few 47 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: SIPs of the wine. He basically said that Check was drunk. 48 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: I listened to that show in my car often and 49 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: he's excellent number one, and he's one of the best 50 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: best ad readers you will ever find. And he has 51 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: long sixties second ones just doing the radio. But I 52 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: remain convinced he is the son of Tom Brokeaw he 53 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: had more than a sip of that wine. By the way, 54 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: if you watch the check, he's anyway. Welcome to the 55 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the Around the NFL podcast. This is, 56 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: of course, our preview show of the week ahead. Week seventeen, 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: the final week of the regular season. We finally reached 58 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: the end of the yellow brick Road two NFL season mark. 59 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: I know you never think the seasons ending. The season 60 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: is ending on Sunday night. Well, I mean one thing 61 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: that we were discussing and green on yesterday that it 62 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: is time for some of these teams to go away, 63 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: I mean mercifully for their fan basis, for the coaches 64 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: presiding over to win franchises. It is time for a 65 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: break and let's get to some real football games between 66 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: some good teams. There's some bad games this week that 67 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: we're just gonna motor right through. Good football is coming, 68 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: though it is coming. It's almost like this is the 69 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: penance you must pay. You gotta deal with all these 70 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: all star ends that are just playing out the string. 71 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: There will there are some, of course, some big plot 72 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: lines going on with certain games, including uh my favorite 73 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: football team. US teams are trying to either get in 74 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs or get better seeds in the playoffs. But yes, 75 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: there are some clunkers, but we will go through all 76 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: of them because listen, ultimately, this is a show about 77 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: the NFL, So whether the team sucks or not, we're 78 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: going to talk about them, even if just a little bit. 79 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: We might also talk about Greg your QB index a 80 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: little bit later. There's a lot of consternation across the 81 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: NFL media landscape about that, so we'll get to all that. 82 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: So why don't we Sydney, how you doing? By the way, 83 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: Happy New Year's Eve. Happy New Year's Eve, Dan. So 84 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: you you're you're a young woman. I remember once upon 85 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: a time when I was in my twenties, New Year's 86 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: Eve was always a holiday that was bound to disappoint 87 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: and yet it would never stop me from, you know, 88 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: planning some type of night out with with with friends. 89 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: Do you have anything planned for tonight? Listen? I've given 90 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: up on New Year's Eve because it is a pointless holiday. WHOA. Yeah, Well, 91 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: here's the thing. There's always like a lot of expectation 92 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: and it never lives up to that. So I was 93 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: telling Mark before the show that I think I'm legitimately 94 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 1: going to like Star Wars bench to night with maybe 95 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: some Chinese takeout. That sounds fun, right, I know the 96 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: Dan was saying it was not live up to expectations. 97 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: Do you know what I found out a little later 98 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: in the twenties, The key was go to a concert. 99 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: Concerts aren't going to disappoint you that you know, it's 100 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: basically just a concert, But then they play a song 101 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: at midnight. Everyone's happy. Once I went to one, then 102 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: I just said, concerts every year, just fight a good 103 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: show to go to. It's not that easy. While you 104 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: were living in New York, other people around the world 105 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: and country. It's not that easy, Westwood, like some high 106 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: octane fifty show. I've never been disappointed by New Year's Eve. 107 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: I've often enjoyed it. I don't have to tell you 108 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: we've had it was like the one holiday I remember 109 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: as a kid where my mom and dad would kind 110 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: of party. Oh no, that's fun, the family asked. I mean, 111 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: I mean, but I grew up to enjoy New Year's 112 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: dynamic of where you're expecting something like supreme to happen 113 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: and then it doesn't. Is that does occur? Or like 114 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: crowded parties, but paying to get into bars like a 115 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: crowded party. It's the only place I like crowds. So 116 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: what are you doing tonight? Was I'm staying home Sydney. 117 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch Netflix. I don't know. There you go? 118 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Let's start talking about some 119 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: football games, and we'll go straight across the schedule early 120 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: to late game one Sunday night game, no Monday night game. 121 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: Uh So, let's start all division games, by the way, 122 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: two teams, sixteen games, four teams perked Division one NFL Good, 123 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: good job, NFL by you know, people that don't remember. 124 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: It didn't used to be all division games that in weeks. 125 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: It was a nice move. They did all right. Starting 126 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: in the NFC South, the New Orleans Saints at six 127 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: and nine travel to meet the Atlanta Falcons, who, let's 128 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: give him some credit. At least I'll have to give 129 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: him some credit. I was having some real fun with 130 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: the fact that the Falcons had, you know, cratered after 131 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: starting five and oh and had been an irrelevant team 132 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: by mid December. But guess what, they win a couple 133 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: of games in a row. Um, they beat a fourteen 134 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: and old Panthers team. They at least can say we 135 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: went into weeks seventeen UM with dignity. What a gate, 136 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: What a performance they add last week against Carolina, people 137 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: kind of focused on, you know, how did Carolina lose 138 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: this game? And Matt Ryan played his best game of 139 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: the year. He was perfect against the Blitz. They just 140 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: kept picking up their downs. They held the ball the 141 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: whole time, and they really did what they want and 142 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: their defense made a lot of big plays too. And 143 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: that play by Julio Jones, the touchdown catch over Luke 144 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: Keikley and um a fall in safety for Carolina. When 145 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: he's inducted in Canton one day, that will be on 146 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: the reel. That is like all of his skill set, 147 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: his speed, his strength, his his athletic ability in terms 148 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: of jumping, all on display. Even the touchdown celebration was great, 149 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: running through the goal line like an Olympic sprintter, got kick, 150 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: got poster eyes on a couple I guess that wasn't 151 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: his best game of the year. Yea on a couple 152 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: of plays, DeVante Freeman took him out of his shoes. 153 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: DeVante Freemans had a good year. I know he hasn't 154 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: been quite his dyna himik in the second half of 155 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: the season, but I think he's shown that he can 156 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: be their feature back going forward. And Dan Quinn called 157 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan an absolute warrior this week. He got hit 158 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: in the ribs earlier in that game and played through 159 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: it and he was wincing all throughout the game. But 160 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: I think he's established himself as a franchise quarterback. People 161 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: have been too down on him this year. Thirty with 162 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: five drops in that game, so that's about as close 163 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: to perfect as you'll get. But I mean, maybe maybe 164 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: he doesn't deserve all of the criticism he's gotten. But 165 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: I do remember back in early September, Greg, you know, 166 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: he's being talked up um as a guy could be 167 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: in the m v P race, and really he seems 168 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan has scenes settled into that, you know, upper 169 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: half of the middle tier of the league, maybe maybe 170 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: ten to twelve range, and maybe that's just who he is, 171 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: and that's good enough if you put the team around him. 172 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Though well, I mean, but we also, and I don't 173 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: think that none of us play quarterback, we don't understand 174 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: how it hard it is to go from a system 175 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: that became second nature to you for half a decade 176 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: too suddenly you're in a completely new offense and having 177 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: to learn it on the fly. In some cases, I mean, 178 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of quarterbacks struggled with that. Eli 179 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: Manning would be pre Odell Beckham looked awful in that 180 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: Giant's offensive times. I remember everybody lining up to take 181 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: shots at Brett Farve in early two thousands when the 182 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: coaching staff changed and they rebuilt, and he had no 183 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: wide receivers in a bad offensive line, and it's like 184 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: he's still Brett for as soon as you stacked the 185 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: offense around him. He's going to be an MVP. Disappointing 186 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: it is. I just think it's not like he's not 187 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: declining necessarily career wise. I thought there from that they 188 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: got carried away when they started writing should they draft 189 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: his replacement this year? That that was too much. It 190 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: was writing that your boy Di Orlando led better. Uh, 191 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: we are split. He didn't just list the Atlanta Falcons roster. 192 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: We are split on this game. The old Zeuser and 193 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: Patra have taken the Saints, West Connor and Mark have 194 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: taken the Falcons, and Greg abstained because he abandoned us, 195 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: something leader should never do. You said, have you learned 196 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: your lesson by the way, now that we're near the 197 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: end of the season, that this was something that it 198 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: did not speak well of the entire team to have 199 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: you not involved. We were all obviously hurt. Someone sent 200 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: a burlap sack that they wanted you to wear when 201 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: we do the picks. Maybe it's time to come back. 202 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: Number one, My Sundays were happier without it, so that 203 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: worked that well. Number two, is this the on air 204 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: argument or is this the off air when you told 205 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: me actually that it's worked out and it's made the 206 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: show better. I can't hard to keep that. It's hard 207 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: to keep it. This is like your Jordan's writing. I 208 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: said that, you said, ultimately it's been good because we're 209 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: not as focused on picks. That was kind of a 210 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: distraction on these Thursday show. You add attention to the 211 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: group because you took it so seriously. So maybe that's 212 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: made it a little better because I haven't been as 213 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: stressed out myself this year. I mean, if it's calming 214 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: you to not do it, all the flak you've gotten, 215 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: is that countering whatever stress you would have. The flat 216 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: doesn't affect me. This is your little Daly and this 217 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: is like Jordan's writing the buses in double A. You 218 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: need to send like a two word memo, I'm back. 219 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: You should come back. We'll talk a little bit more 220 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: about the picks race later in the show. Moving on, 221 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: Oh yes, here we go Orchard Park, New York, Western 222 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: New York, exactly geographically mark is where this game will 223 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: be played. The New York Jets uh ten and five 224 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: winners of five straight in a win and in scenario 225 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: for their first playoff berth since two thousand and ten, 226 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: have to do it by beating Rex ryan Um, of course, 227 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: the former coach of the Jets the Bills, who have 228 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: been a big disappointment this season seven or eight. Rex, 229 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: You know, the framing of the week has been terrible 230 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: for Rex, who is uh has no swagger. He can't 231 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: because his team is uh, you know, irrelevant right now. 232 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: He's got players that are against him in his locker 233 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: room and that's leaked out to the press. Uh. The 234 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: fact that the Jets are the team he's facing, the 235 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: team that I bet in the heart of heart of 236 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: hearts he thought they'd be worse off without him, the 237 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: better without him, And they're coming and surging with a 238 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: chance to celebrate on Rex's home turf. Here, nothing to 239 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: be excited about if you're Rex ryan Um. And yet 240 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: you think about what could happen here. The Steelers need 241 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: the Jets to lose in addition to getting a win 242 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: to take that last playoff spot. Uh, West, I know, 243 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: because the Steelers are your little boyfriends that you're trying 244 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: to will the Steelers into the playoffs, You're gonna be 245 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: rooting against my favorite team and essentially against my happiness 246 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: on Sunday. But the bottom line, West is the Jets 247 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: of the better team. They're playing like a team that's 248 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: not gonna choke, so I choose to think they will 249 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: not choke. You have You've exposed me we were doing 250 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: in NFL now and uh and I predicted the Jets 251 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: would win or the Bills would win and Rex would 252 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: get his revenge. But you're absolutely correct. This is all 253 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: about me thinking that I do not want to watch 254 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: the boring Jets. And I know you think they're exciting. 255 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: They are, it's about me. They have always been boring. 256 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: The Steelers are more interesting to watch, and I don't 257 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: have an NFL team. I just want to watch the 258 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: most interesting football. So I'm pulling for the Bills to 259 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: knock the Jets out of the place. I'll remember that. 260 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: What else, Mark, I picked the Jets because the Jets 261 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: are the better team. And yeah, you're right. I think 262 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan probably in the middle of the summer when 263 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: he's jumping out of airplanes and he's the toast of 264 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: Buffalo and everyone just feels like, oh, he's gonna flip 265 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: the switch for the Bills. In the back of his mind, 266 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: he thought the greatest part of this is being able 267 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: to stick it to the New York Jets and showing 268 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: how valuable I was, the glue that I was, that 269 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: they haven't been anything without me, and they're a much 270 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: better team. And it has to do with their general 271 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: manager change right there. He was in a bad situation 272 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: last year. But look at the fact that Brandon Marshall 273 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: is the best free agent signing league wide and what 274 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: he's done. The combination of him and Decker make the 275 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: Jets not boring. I would say to that point, Mark, 276 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: you bring up the wider seare tandem, I will hold 277 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: up in my hands. The two thousand fifteen season Comma 278 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: West Week seventeen research notes both Eric Decker, Mark and 279 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: I embarrassingly saw a County Crows concert in the last 280 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: three years or so where they opened in the could 281 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: not could not hit the notes. It was said, here 282 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: we go. Both Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall have caught 283 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: TV passes in the same game eight times this season. 284 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: That is a new NFL record, And to put this 285 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: into context, the previous record was seven such games, held 286 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: by Chris Carter and Randy Moss. Of what year, Vikings. 287 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: That's a boring team. They got a wide receas attendem 288 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: that's putting up numbers that beats Moss and Chris Carter, 289 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,479 Speaker 1: Christ Mustling, Chris Carter and Randy Moss. Let me piggyback 290 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: off that stat. Since two thousand twelve, Brandon Marshall has 291 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: the most receiving touchdowns in the NFL, tied with Dez Bryant. 292 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: Number three is Eric Decker. Brandon Marshall is the MVPT 293 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: of this team. I don't even think there's a question, 294 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: which is why it was ridiculous when Minish Meta the 295 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: New York Daily News said Ryan Fitzpatrick should be the 296 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: number three guy in the m v P race ahead 297 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: of Tom Brady. Give me a break, Are you kidding me? 298 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: I mean he's he has been great, and chan Gailey 299 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: has been great and it all works together. But Marshall, 300 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: to me, is the key. And you mentioned the Brandon 301 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: Marshall acquisition. I mean he traded for him at a 302 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: time it costs nothing to trade for Brandon Marshall. Think 303 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: of what else mcagnet has done. Uh, Leonard Williams has 304 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: been a really good draft pick. Yeah, he's I think 305 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: lived up to ex Durell reevs. Marcus Gilchris even even 306 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: the depth at wide receiver with guys, you know, noon 307 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: On and Tompkins not like they're great. Week They've done 308 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: a good job fitting role players into spots. Uh. Their 309 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: offensive lineman that they got from Seattle, James Carpenter. Every 310 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: everything has just really well. And I think mccagnan has 311 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: done as good as yeah executively. Year rankings, you'd have 312 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: to put Steve Kim of the Cardinals in there, Dave 313 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: Getleman of the Panthers, and I think you have to 314 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: give Belichick in neccessarios. I'd love to and Scott mcglewhen 315 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: with the Red a lot of a lot of And 316 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: that's why, as much as I have to admit, I 317 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: would like the Bills to win this game because of 318 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: a few reasons. One, the Steelers are more fun to watch. Two, 319 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to see the Jets as a Patriots 320 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: fanig going in England in the divisional round. That's there's 321 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: that's a no win scenario, even if they beat the Jets. 322 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: It's just like, Okay, that's what they're supposed to do. 323 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: But I think the Jets match up really well with 324 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: the Patriots, and if they could win in the first round, 325 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: they would go to New England. If doing was the 326 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: one seed, and that would that would obviously be a 327 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: tough loss if if the Jets could go do that again. 328 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: And then the third reason is I just don't I 329 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: don't believe in the Bills. Though I don't, I have 330 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: no belief that the Bills can win this game. This 331 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: is not the team that that they used to be. 332 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: They're so injured. Darby's hurt, I mean Darby's gone, gil 333 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: More's gone. Darby's hurt, rather, Darius is hurt. Even this week, 334 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: they have more than they've had McCoy, Mario Williams, their 335 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: entire wide receiver corps except for Sammy Watkins and seven eleven. 336 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: Try to watch that Sammy Watkins will get hurt at 337 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: the end of the second quarter. Couldn't be deeper. Though 338 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: they had rushed for two hundred and forty yards last week, 339 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: I mean, they were fantastic running the I know, uh, 340 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles is not gonna win Coach of the Year, 341 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: but if you factored in again that his starting quarterback 342 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: got his jaw broken, uh two weeks or three weeks 343 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: before the season started, and the fact that they went 344 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: four and twelve last year and now they have a 345 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: chance to go eleven and five. He should be in 346 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: the top three at the very least. I'm sure Rivero 347 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: will get it or Arians. No one is exposing Rex 348 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: Ryan more than Todd Bowls right now, and yes we 349 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: can I disagree. I I don't disagree with at all 350 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: because Rex Ryan has gone to Buffalo. With Rex Ryan 351 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: did not have the roster that Todd Bowles has. He has. 352 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: He has a lot of talent in Buffalo. We talked 353 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: for the two seasons running about the Bills being a 354 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: play off ready team in terms of their talent, and 355 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: he is reversed course. On defense, Mike Petton and Jim 356 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: Schwartz got that defense to rush the passer to a 357 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: franchise record and said that's two years ago about well, 358 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: we don't know what Jet, what Rex would have done 359 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: with the same Bills front seven. Talking about the Jets, 360 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the fact that he goes to Buffalo 361 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: and he's completely imploded, and and that that roster is 362 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: not playing up to their ability on any level on defense, 363 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: which is his specialty. We'd have to see what Bulls 364 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: did in Buffalo, though, I mean it's apples and are 365 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: just Bills. The Bills players are not maximizing their strengths 366 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: because Rex Ryan system is more important to him than 367 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: putting his players in the best They seem confused. I 368 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: mean they talk about they're confused. They're thinking too much. 369 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: It's not simple enough. I think Kyle Williams was a 370 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 1: massive loss for them. That guy hell Callen Mortis six points. 371 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: We have Connor and West took the Bills. That's I've 372 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: got first place on the line. I'd love to see 373 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: the Bills going to be honest, but I would I 374 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 1: think the Jets are gonna wax him. Rex and Whaley 375 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: board in two thousand and sixteen. By the way, it's 376 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: a lot of rope for Doug Whalley moving on. The 377 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions in Chicago Bears square off to six and 378 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: nine teams. The loser a lot at steak here. The 379 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: loser finishes in last place every game. When it's time 380 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: to move on. If we're going too long, Dan makes 381 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: a little circle with his finger, let's wrap it up. 382 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm already putting a circle for this. Don't need 383 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: to see more of this. Yeah, So, I don't know 384 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: if anybody has a has a point they want to 385 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: make about either of these two teams. We know Matthew 386 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: Stafford has played better in the second half, quieting any 387 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: rumors that the lines might go in a different direction. 388 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: At quarterback, what's Jay Cutler's future? A lot of questions 389 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: in Chicago and a lot of work to do, but 390 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: these two teams playing out the string. Jay Cutler's money 391 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: is guaranteed ten million dollars next year. I do wonder 392 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: you know they were when they wanted to trade him 393 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: last year. He's coming off season where his value is 394 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: going to be pretty high. I whether they would consider 395 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: trading I think whether they consider a trade um this 396 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: year and whether anyone would take that. Maybe they would. 397 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: It's much better situation than last year. I mean, there's 398 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: a couple of teams that need a quarterback, but there's 399 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: also quarterbacks in the draft. You could trade that contract 400 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: and people just take on that money, and who knows, 401 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: nobody's trading for Jake color Mark. You have a hero 402 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: pick on the Bears, You have any anything to add 403 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 1: about why you chose them in this game? They are 404 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: at home. They take about four seconds on that pick, 405 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: and I could change it. It's your favorite. A better team, 406 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: like a point. Lines have been better in the second half. 407 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: If lines have been a good team in the second half. 408 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: Let's move on to the a f C North, where 409 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, another team playing out the string at 410 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: five and ten injury riddle. Disappointing season for John Harbaugh 411 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: and company, but they are playing hard and frisky. Head 412 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: to Cincinnati to face the Bengals, who have now dropped 413 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: Have they dropped three in a row? Well, they were eight, No, 414 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: and now that that's it. Oh, I'm sorry, see as 415 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: I was looking at the wrong Uh team, they're they're 416 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: eleven and four. Um, they lost two and three because 417 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: in their last seven games, so they've obviously cooled off. 418 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: And they have a J. Mccaren. The good news for 419 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals as mccaren injured that wrist on the last 420 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: play of Monday Night football. Uh, he says he's good 421 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: to go, so they'll have Um, they'll have their second 422 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: string quarterback with Dalton still out. However, Um West the 423 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: Ravens playing teams tough. We saw them knock off the Steelers. 424 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: The Bengals are probably gonna be in for a battle here. Um. 425 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: Probably not something they were expecting, but that's probably what's 426 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: gonna happen, right. Yeah, we mentioned this early in the week. 427 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: It's too John Harball's credit that they have the most 428 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: injury ravaged roster in the league and they play really 429 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: hard every week. But the Steelers don't have a good 430 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: defense and the Bengals do. I can't imagine Ryan Mallett 431 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: tearing up part of Bengals defense with Geno Atkins and 432 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: Vontez perfect on it. Tyler Eiffert practiced fully Wednesday. Uh, 433 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: looks like he's gonna return. There was a concern with 434 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: Loca their safety. Looks like he's gonna play Dunlap who 435 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: dominated last week and he should be in the pro 436 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: that the Bengals single season, but a season he's had. 437 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: It looks like they're getting healthier at the at the 438 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: right time. And I don't know. I don't think this 439 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: will be a dog fight. I think the way mccaren's played, 440 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens had their nice effort. Maybe they'll 441 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: stick around for a half, but I think the Bengals wipe. 442 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, Greg you are the 443 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: czar of playoffs, scenarios and tiebreakers, permutations, combinations. What is 444 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: at stake for the Cincinnati ball Club? Well, they can 445 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: still you can still get that by. They cannot get 446 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: the number one seed, but they're playing early. As you mentioned, 447 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: they get a win early, and then they go sit 448 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: back home, watch Broncos Chargers and hope for an upset 449 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: by San Diego. If San Diego wins that game and 450 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: the Bengals win their game, then the Bengals get a 451 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: nice by and Andy Dalton can rest up. There you go. 452 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: Carlo's Dunlap said he would trade six of his franchise 453 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: single season records sacks for a bye. M not it 454 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: was not an option. It's not an option, but it's 455 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, team player. And uh. Steve Smith in a 456 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: kind of ridiculous Instagram post uh did share some very 457 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: good news that he uh people that like exciting old players, 458 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: Steve Smith will return in two thousands. What's with all 459 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: these shots? That's what was wrong with the Instagram. It 460 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: was a little tack. It was kind of cheesy. I thought, fine, 461 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: it was kind of like, he's also younger than anyone 462 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: in this room, not compared to the trade he's in. 463 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: He's he's gonna be seven. Yeah, he's older than you. 464 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: Uh No, he's three months younger than me. I thought 465 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: he was a year younger than he was, though he's 466 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: football old. I just my only concerned West. I'm happy 467 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: that Smith is coming back. Nobody wants to see a 468 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: great career end on an injury like that, that at 469 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: thirty seven or whatever. If they you know, surgically repaired achilles, 470 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: it comes back, and it's kind of a depressing funds. 471 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: That's feeling Steve Smith right now, and he's waiting outside 472 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: for you. I hope not. I feel like he would 473 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: do some damage. Uh, Connor or with the hero pick 474 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: he takes the Ravens Connor who has picked, Uh, he's 475 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: picked fifty six percent of his games correct the season, 476 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: just win loss. You've gotta be higher than that. Well, 477 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: he's not. He's not doing this the safest method. He 478 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: hasn't since the beginning of the season. Are you saying 479 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: he's not trying? No, I think he's just he's being Connor. 480 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: He's being controversial and entertaining. He's a charismatic guy. Here 481 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: you go, he's um yeah, so here we go. We 482 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: move on now to the other a f C North 483 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: battle also one pm kick off the Pittsburgh Steelers, who really, 484 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, god if they don't make the playoffs. They 485 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: have no one to blame but themselves. They let a injury, 486 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: They let Ryan Mallett potentially end their season in Week sixteen. 487 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: They're only chance now to make the playoffs. They got 488 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: take care of business against the Cleveland Browns, which you 489 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: figured they should be able to and then hope that 490 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: the Jets do get upset by the Bills, um to 491 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: make matters easier in terms of the things that they 492 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: can control. Johnny Manziel on Thursday was officially ruled out 493 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: of Week seventeen. He suffered a concussion against the Chiefs, 494 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: so he is out, which means Austin Davis gets his 495 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: second start of the season and uh Terrell Prior will 496 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: most likely be the Browns backup and loves see Terrell 497 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: get some snaps, maybe catch the Steelers off guard. So 498 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: Steelers gotta take care of business. Mark, let me just 499 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: uh ask you something about Johnny manzel now now we're 500 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: two years through, it's done. Uh. This season, he uh 501 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: appeared in ten games, six starts, two and four passer 502 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: rating around seventy. UM. You know, obviously at ups and 503 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: downs both on and off the field, there's a time 504 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: for the Browns to move forward without Johnny in terms 505 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: of like their draft strategy two years, it's a pretty 506 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: decent audition. Move on, Well, six games, isn't. I mean, 507 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: he's not played enough games. He's two years, but it's not. 508 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: I don't think it's enough body of work to to 509 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: judge him. Finally, and I think he's been as much 510 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: of a headache for the coaching staff as he has 511 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: been an asset. But I would definitely not give up 512 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: on him. He's not very expensive. He's more exciting at 513 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: that position than anyone they've had since they've returned in 514 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying he's the best quarterback. I think Tim Couch 515 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: was the better, but I would I wouldn't just give 516 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: him away. People talking about him giving him away for 517 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: a fifth round pick, and it's more like, hey, Cleveland, 518 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: well no, people have talked about mid round pick for 519 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel. It's it's like, well, go go. Cleveland's job 520 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: is to go help another team and give them Johnny 521 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: Manzel and have him succeed somewhere else. No, hang on 522 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: to him. You have Josh Gordon coming back. When it 523 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: stopped me from drafting someone. I mean, I believe in 524 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,239 Speaker 1: the homegrown thing where even if you've got Brett far 525 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: if you keep drafting quarterbacks, who knows, you might get 526 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, you might get someone else and there are 527 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: no way can they pain all their hopes on them? 528 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: But why move on from him? What would be the reason? Well, 529 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: I guess the reason would be that he hasn't had 530 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: a lot of snaps and action and that's on him though, 531 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 1: because it's been too um losing Brown's teams and his 532 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: inability to to be plugged in on the team in 533 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: year one and then has continued off the field issues 534 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: in year two. It's his own fault that they didn't 535 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: he didn't have enough uh you know, uh tape on 536 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: the field, and it puts them in a test because 537 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: if you do draft a quarterback high, you kind of 538 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: gotta go all in on that guy. So Manziel maybe 539 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: just becomes their backup and that's so then you are 540 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: kind that's fine, though, Why why not a team like Cleveland? 541 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. It's kind of like the Jets. 542 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: You know they had Gino, Obviously they weren't going to 543 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: count on him. I think you just keep adding quarterbacks 544 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: and don't worry about their feelings until until you know 545 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: you have one for sure. So maybe Johnny Manzel surprises 546 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: them next year and ends up playing really well in 547 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: the off season and earning that job. But I don't 548 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: think you count on that. And why not draft a 549 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: guy in the first or second round and have a couple. 550 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: What's the worst that's gonna happen, Oh, the Browns have 551 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: too many quarterbacks? When I mean, that's never gonna happen that. 552 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: I do think there is an argument though, to getting 553 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: rid of him. If Mike Patton stays. If Mike Patton 554 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: stays and he just thinks I've looked at this guy 555 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: for two years. I don't think he's worth the trouble, 556 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: and I don't think he's that great at football anyways, 557 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: I don't really want him. That's how he would go. 558 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 1: He can get a third round pick for him, just 559 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: forget it. Then I can't really fault them for that. 560 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: They've watched them in practice every day. My argument is 561 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: with the way that this team has drafted, Like I've 562 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: looked at their third round picks in their fourth over 563 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: the last five years, and it's a disaster field. Like 564 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: it's not more about those players are not more valuable 565 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: than Johnny Manzel under that model. Yeah, like you could 566 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: look at any of their rounds, mostly not any of them. 567 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: But but I'm just saying third or set, third or 568 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: fourth round for Johnny Manzel, you're giving up a talented 569 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: young quarterback who maybe he matures and he's you know, 570 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: it changes when he's twenty five versus twenty two, and 571 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: then he's on another team. I I just think that's 572 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: another chapter of poor decision making. Josh Gordon's coming back, 573 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: I think so reports are possible. I guess that's part 574 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: of the decision too. Is like, if you think Men's 575 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: and he said pattent it said it today and as 576 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: Prescott said, he's done enough in the field to say 577 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: he's the quarterback in the future. It's the off the 578 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: field stuff that gets them thinking that maybe they can't 579 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: make it work with him. But if you really do 580 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: believe Men's I don't think he can get straightened out, 581 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: then use that number one or two pick. Unlike a 582 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: stud wide receiver or a great tackle or there are 583 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: other directions to go with the number one pick. Sure 584 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 1: they that's golden real estate obviously, to bring in a 585 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: blue ship athlete I mean, he's not even close to 586 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: the most Well maybe he's close, but then the most 587 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 1: disappointing first round pick from that draft, Justin Gilbert, has 588 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: been a disaster. They need another cornerback because of it. 589 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: I think Gilbert is a much higher chance of being cut. 590 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: Good news for the Steelers this week that it's they 591 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: had Lewis week in Cleveland. The five lay past seven 592 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: years they played Pittsburgh, they've lost all five and and 593 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: also four times they've had their third or fourth quarterback 594 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: on the field in Week seventeen. In Week seventeen, they've 595 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: had their at least the third string quarter back for 596 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: four straight years. Last year was Connor Shaw was one 597 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: of them, that Lewis was one of them, Campbell. We 598 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: picked the Steelers across the board to finish ten and 599 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: six Cleveland three and thirteen, which would leave them potentially 600 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: in position with the number one pick depending on what 601 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: happens with the Titans and Colts. Let's move on to 602 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: uh the NFC East. The Washington Redskins travel to Big 603 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: d to face the Cowboys. I believe Yeah, Washington is 604 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: locked in at the four seed and the NFC playoffs. 605 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: They're not going anywhere. The Cowboys clearly aren't going anywhere 606 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: at four and eleven. Um, they're probably better off losing 607 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: this game for draft pick purposes. Does Bryant his season 608 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: is over? He was placed on I R with his 609 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: ankle and foot surgery coming up, And um, I guess 610 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: the only big thing to talk about this game is 611 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: Greg's QB index. I feel like it's a good time 612 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: to jump in on that where you don't even know 613 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: if they're going to play their starters in this game. 614 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: The Cowboys are favored because the Redskins orders won't last 615 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: longer than I believe. The game literally means nothing. So 616 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: let's talk about West kirk Cousins where he is. We 617 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: got the kissing Cousins corner over here, West and sess. 618 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk about kirk Cousins ranked where West in the 619 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: qbn DA. Well, let me just say, first of all, 620 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm a little torn on this because I know how 621 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: hard Greg works on this. I know he does, and 622 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: he does a great jong. He's watching the film and 623 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: he puts the effort in. And um, I know that 624 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: when you're ranking stuff, people care way too much about 625 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: the guy ranked fourteenth verses fifteen. So with that preamble said, 626 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: it's totally you just hate Kirk Cousins, and it's that's 627 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: ir rational. And nobody believes that Jamis Winston and Tyrod 628 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: Taylor had better seasons than Kirk Cousins. That is ridiculous. 629 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: Why doesn't the first half of the season matter. It does, 630 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: first half of the season, these are but look at 631 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: the totality of their season. Okay, the first half of 632 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: the season, Kirk Cousins had nine touchdowns, eight interception, six 633 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: point four yards for attempt, and I would say he 634 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: played worse than his numbers in general. That's that's how 635 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm evaluating him, and that's why he's always going to 636 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: be a little lower. He's not as good as his 637 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: numbers because he's throwing short passes. The offense is doing 638 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: a lot of None of them long passes ever count 639 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: to you don't even count, but the ever happened, there's 640 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: less of them. I mean, there's a reason why he 641 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: has the worst numbers of anyone throwing over ten yards. 642 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: The second half of the season, he's been great. But 643 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: you you talked numbers or whatever, he has the same 644 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: numbers as wins They have the same since Week seven 645 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: he leads the entire NFL and touchdowns the interception, why 646 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: does the I count the first second? It counts. But 647 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: in totality, he's been better than those guys, And it 648 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: does matter that he was playing without Jordan reading to 649 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: Shawan Jackson for a couple of months. You have to 650 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: factor that in. Scientists watch out for the Beakers can't 651 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: be knocking that. That shows he can't overcome that. That 652 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: somewhat proves what I'm saying that he's part of the team. 653 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: Every quarterback is, and he needs all that around him 654 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: to be successful. That that he he's not going to 655 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: overcome without his guys either. I mean, this happens to 656 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: all quarterbacks. Do you feel that Jamis Winston, for you 657 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: want about you're in the season, had more talent around 658 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: him in a better run game he had. Yes, he's had. 659 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: He's had ups and downs. And that's why I don't 660 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: honestly feel very strongly that Cousins shouldn't be twelve instead 661 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: of fifteen. That's probably about as high as I put it, 662 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: or even eleven if if I was talking about this 663 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: QB and next as a whole. There's a massive fall 664 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: off after rivers at eight because car is not playing well. 665 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: But then I'm thinking who has had a better season, 666 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: for instance, than Car at nine to put him above there. 667 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: Bortles has been very up and down. Fitzpatrick you have 668 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: to ignore a lot, including like entire halfs of games 669 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: to put him above there. Kirk Cousins, you could put 670 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: him there at twelve. You know, I had of Tyrod 671 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: and and uh, why there's a huge fall off on 672 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: your list? And like West said, I love I love 673 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: your list every week, and I you know, I was 674 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: involved with the layout of It's try a personal stake 675 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: in it. But the reason there's such a big fall 676 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: off is because Derek Carr shouldn't be anywhere near the 677 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: top ten. But I think he's had a better season 678 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: than I would think. And I think Bortles and fits 679 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: Patrick should be ten and eleven or nine and ten. 680 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: I think Cars a little too high. That's the only 681 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: big issue I had. The only thing is Greg you, 682 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: I know you can't watch every snap every week, but 683 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: you've watched a ton of tape, probably as much as 684 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: anyone in the building. Usually get the fifteen games a week. 685 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: I I'll come up short at one on average. Way 686 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: to go, so It's not an easy job and people 687 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: will your Whatever you do, you're gonna get feedback on it, 688 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: and it's not all going to be positive. It's my 689 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: favorite article that I read every week that's well, end 690 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: Around is Up, be Right, and Cousins, I mean maybe less. 691 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: I read all three of those articles religiously every week. 692 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: And West you do incredible work as well, both as 693 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: a writer with an analyst. Our final m v P 694 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: list is up this week. That you mentioned Brandon Marshall earlier, 695 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: he's all. He's in the top ten. You go see. 696 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: I was pushing him to be in the top ten 697 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: wide receivers a few months ago. You said no that 698 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: shut up, shut your now. I wanted to make DeAndre Hopkins. 699 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: I love that you play Hopkins fifth? Was it? Yeah? 700 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: What about your stat? Patrick Clayban and I came up 701 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: with this in the newsroom yesterday. That was the genesis 702 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: of it. We have one of our researchers sitting right 703 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: there and we asked him, is DeAndre Hopkins the only 704 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,959 Speaker 1: player in NFL history to have one yard games under 705 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: four different quarterbacks in the same season, because he did 706 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: it with Brandon Weeden last week. Ryan Mallett t J. 707 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: Yates and Brian Hoyer. Three of those quarterbacks were either 708 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 1: cut or on the street at some point this season. 709 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: That's incredible and the answer is yes, DeAndre Hopkins the 710 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: only player ever to do that. What a seat. I mean, 711 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: that's the definition of valuable. Well, that's a great You've 712 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: got a lot of pop on Twitter with that one 713 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: to congratulations, including DeAndre Hopkins himself. He did and said 714 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: no excuses, nuked bamb I had just changed my pick, because, yeah, 715 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: if if Washington's pulling all their starters, maybe Dallas can 716 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: eke out a home win. I but calling Moregese, I 717 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: don't know, but is a great backup? I I don't know. 718 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't think it's true. And he won in Dallas 719 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: in the game mattered last year. You know what else 720 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: is going on in this game? Darry McFadden only needs 721 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: three yards to reach a thousand. Wait, by the way, 722 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: that means he's averaging sixty yards a game. Well, he 723 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: didn't start until late October. I mean he's he's been good. 724 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: He's been good. Adrian Peterson is the only running back 725 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: with more one yard games in him this year. That's 726 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: saying Jerry Jones was right. Well, I don't think that 727 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,720 Speaker 1: the running backs are why the Cowboys are bad this year. Yeah, 728 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: I think that's true. At overrated, they can bring DeMarco 729 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: Murray back to rush for three point five yards per carry. 730 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean. Ultimately, their season ended when 731 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: Dez broke his foot and then Tony got hurt, and 732 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: then Tony got hurt again. Well also because they made 733 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: a deal with the devil. Let's move on. Uh yeah, 734 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: so right now, Dan Connor and west All took the Cowboys, 735 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: Patra and Mark took the Skins. UH one pm game 736 00:36:54,560 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: AFC South Jacksonville Jaguars five and ten against the Houston Texans. 737 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 1: Who listen, we all know it was a ten team 738 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,959 Speaker 1: parlay that the Colts needed to steal the af C South. 739 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: The Monday night win by Denver uh makes it a 740 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: nine team parlay, but more than likely almost uh impossibly, 741 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: the odds are in their favor and eight and seven 742 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: Houston team right now is gonna win the a f 743 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: C South and they can finish nine and seven and 744 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: over five D and look a little frisky. I think 745 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer is gonna be playing if I'm not mistaken, 746 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: uh cleared uh to rejoin the team, so that I'm 747 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: a little bummed out. I like the Brandon weed and narrative, Uh, 748 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: you know, into January, but Hoyer this, you know, I 749 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: like Choyer Cleveland Springsteen, so he'll get a chance to 750 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: play meaningful January football. Um on Jacksonville side, maybe Lake 751 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: Worlds can go nuts and uh flirt with forty touchdowns. 752 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: That's probably not gonna happen against Houston's defense. This is 753 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: kind of an interesting game because the Texans have something 754 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: to play for athumatically, but they have what a one 755 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: in a million shot. Well, we'll get to them, but 756 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: they're gonna be starting Josh Freeman or Ryan Linley, which 757 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: starts which we're signed this week. We're not your way. Yeah, 758 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,439 Speaker 1: that is outrage. So you're right, it is a very 759 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: strange game because in theory, the Texans might want to 760 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: keep some people rested. I mean, Clowney got hurt in 761 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: the middle of a thirty four and nothing score last week, 762 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: which is always hurt, which probably scared them. I mean 763 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: it's remarkable, like they were nine and seven last year, 764 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: and I get Bill O'Brien credit because this team looked 765 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: completely lost to one point, but to go through all 766 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback changes they had last season and finished with 767 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: that record, And then it's not just DeAndre Hopkins. When 768 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,919 Speaker 1: you're trying to run an offense and run a team 769 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: and you've been through your fourth quarterback and two of 770 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: them are people that we just ripped on NonStop in 771 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: past seasons. And you you get a game out of 772 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: Brandon Weeden. There's something good going on and it's one 773 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: of the few Belichick Tree offshoots. It's actually producing as 774 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: a coach, and that's why I couldn't even kill him. 775 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: Are going wildcat crazy against the Patriots, which was to 776 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 1: me a bit of a La Raville magnifico game for them. 777 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: That's about the only game that the bang. The Patriots 778 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: have looked dominant over the last six weeks. But this team, 779 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: they somehow have found their way into the playoffs. You know, 780 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: Brian on offense, it really is all just Hopkins and 781 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown and four quarterbacks, multiple running game and go 782 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: eight and eight to go into the playoffs. Not that 783 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: it really matters. West. You um went out on a 784 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: limb here one one more time, getting behind Jacksonville take 785 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: care of business. The rest of us took the Texans, 786 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: the tricky game because you don't know what the Texans 787 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 1: are gonna do. It is. Moving on to the other 788 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: a f C South game, the Tennessee Titoons, who are 789 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: on my s list. Come on, compete. You're you're a 790 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: professional team in the National Football League, the highest level 791 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: of this game, and you're embarrassing yourself as on a 792 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: weekly basis. Let's try to end with some dignity. They 793 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: head to Indianapolis to face the Colts team. Uh, Andrew 794 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: Luck is out for the season now, so you're not 795 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: going to see him this week. And uh, and you 796 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,479 Speaker 1: won't probably see until September. Um. By the way, here's 797 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: a new Year's resolution for NFL insiders. Let's take lacerated 798 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: spleens more seriously. Going forward, it's like Andrew Luck back 799 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: in two to three weeks if everything checks out, cool, 800 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: and it's like, whoa, he lacerated his spleen bra it's 801 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: fair point you ain't coming back. So the season's over 802 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: after seven weeks. The Colts. Yes, as we've mentioned, they've 803 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: signed Josh Freeman, Ryan Linley, John Beck, and John Wilkes Booth. 804 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: So they've signed a bunch of quarterbacks. Um and We 805 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 1: don't know who's gonna play, but whoever will play, they 806 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: will suck. I will go out on them on that. 807 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: It's why it's totally crazy that Freeman or Linley and 808 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: are going to start a week seventeen game with playoff implications. 809 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: I know, I know they're not really it doesn't feel 810 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: like they really have playoff, but that's a fact. The statement, 811 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: do we remember my favorite bad quarterback game of all 812 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: time is when a team rushed and signed Josh Freeman 813 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: then rushed him on the field game. That was a 814 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: horrible game, almost as bad as the playoff game that 815 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: Ryan Linley played last year against the Panthers, which a 816 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: little worst performance by a quarterback in NFL history, and 817 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: it instituted a sandwich propositions between Mark and I. I 818 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: said after that game that Ryan Linley will never play 819 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: in an NFL game again. The long term sandwich, it 820 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,240 Speaker 1: could be six seven years before we have an answer. 821 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: You might have an answer Sunday having an in practice 822 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: competition between the two. I'm a little scared because Mark 823 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: could be eating a high octane sandwich. Hasn't Josh Freeman 824 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: been playing for some like Brooklyn inside indoor arena type 825 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: team he did, and he really struggled. The numbers were 826 00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: really yeah, seriously, how was that possible? Maybe it's a 827 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,280 Speaker 1: different interceptions is like a year old in the NFL. 828 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: He's like playing you know, behind, like Barista's that playing 829 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: against Jared Lorenz. Also Ryan Linley is Chazynski's son in law. 830 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: What but but it's gonna come down who knows shows 831 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: a better command of the offense and the knock on 832 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: Josh Freeman over and over and over as he just 833 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: cannot comprehend that they before we move on, this should 834 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: be Chuck Bagano's last game. It's amazing to think. I mean, 835 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: this is a team I think West and a lot 836 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: of people had very high up in their preseason tower rankings, 837 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: a guy who had made it further in the playoffs 838 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: each year he was there. There was a report from 839 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: ESPN reporter Mike Wells this week that Grigson and Pagano's 840 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: relationship is absolutely top toxic, worse than it's even been 841 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: played out in the media, and a hundred times worse, 842 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: quote from a source, than anything they've put on the 843 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: field this year. So that's pretty bad. Whatever that is. 844 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: I love when toxic gets and thrown into the mix. 845 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: You had another reason why you can't eat him, you 846 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,439 Speaker 1: can't Chuck, and that the owner prefers Grigson. So it's 847 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's really bad. I think that's the interesting question. 848 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: Someone wrote a column yesterday in The Star which seemed 849 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: pretty informed, that was like, are they both getting fired? 850 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: Is Ryan Griggson safe? And it it seemed to be 851 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: from the vantage point Ryan Griggson is not safe, and 852 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: I have some information on it. You know, people seem 853 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: to think that. Don't be surprised if maybe they both 854 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: get the boot and he's not happy. Can the next 855 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: guy running the show get Andrew luck and offensive line? Please? 856 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: I have some inset information that Ryan Grigson is mass 857 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: producing wristbands hashtag Chuck gone. Oh that's not nice just 858 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: because he doesn't he he hates him. I thought you 859 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: were gonna say Griggson strong, like keep me around for 860 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: another year. I'm not making light of Chuck Pagana's battle 861 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: against a life threatening disease. It's it's called, you know, 862 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: a little levity in life, buddy lighting up, I laughed. 863 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: The Titans were picked by Mark and Connor. Sorry to 864 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: hear that, Mark, Well, I figured the Titans are going 865 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: to finally put a cap on a terrible season by 866 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: taking themselves out of the running for the number one 867 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: draft pick in the final Sunday of football. Are we 868 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: sure that Zach Mettenberger is better than Ryan Limley? Well, no, 869 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: we're not sure of that at all. But I was 870 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: I was being the Titans are gonna win this game 871 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 1: and be the number two draft picks. About bad rankings, 872 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: your cults being number two or something before the season, 873 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: I had Ryan, I had Mettenberger ahead of Derek Carr 874 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: in my off season, Like you didn't like car this 875 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: off season, but it was a disaster if they If 876 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: we're looking for the worst things we've predicted, that might 877 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: be number one after the seasons over our worst kind 878 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: of moments in terms of predictions. Moving on the other, 879 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: a f C East matchup the New England Patriots twelve 880 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: and three finish up in Miami against the five and 881 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: ten Dolphins and a lot of steak uh for the 882 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 1: Dolphins because I believe Fergie is bringing some of her 883 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: um nephews and nieces to the game and she would 884 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: like to show them, you know, what's it like to 885 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: be in an owner's box. For a big w so 886 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,919 Speaker 1: a lot of steaks there. And then on the other side, 887 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots trying to get the number one seed in 888 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 1: the a f C. They need to win well, they 889 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 1: can still get it, uh if um. Other teams falter, 890 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,879 Speaker 1: but Patriots take care of business against a bad Dolphins team. 891 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: Go thirteen and three, get that number one seed and 892 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: all important home field advantage throughout the a f C playoffs. 893 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: A tradition like and unlike any other, the quarter filled 894 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: Miami Stadium in the final week of the season losing 895 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 1: to some division rival. I mean, it seems like this 896 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 1: happens every year. It's the most depressing stadium to be 897 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: in late in the season. And and thank as a 898 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 1: page it's fan, I'm very thankful this is their opponent 899 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: because they are taking on water. They are banged up, 900 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: they are not playing well offensively. But the Dolphins are 901 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: just such a mess. You can't the contrast between these 902 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: two teams in the media and off the field, and 903 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:20,240 Speaker 1: during practice. You've got the cornerback's wife in Miami throwing 904 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,240 Speaker 1: the court, throwing Ryan Tannehill under the bus, throwing shade 905 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: at him all week. And then you've got Shenanigan's on 906 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: the field and practice between the cornerbacks, all this stuff 907 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: going on. Jeff Darlington tweeted, I was just in New 908 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: England and you can't even imagine that stuff going on there. 909 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: It's totally different how these two teams are run. He 910 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time with both teams, and he 911 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: has a long history on the Dolphins, and I can't 912 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: think of a team there are a lot of bad 913 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL right now that is more on 914 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: fire and under more chaos that is more certain to 915 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: clean house. I mean, it may be a wide house 916 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 1: cleaning in Miami. I can't believe because Tannehill. The stock 917 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: has never been lower on Tannehill right now. It seems 918 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 1: like most people, uh that why these games and and 919 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 1: consider themselves experts. View of Tannehill is a you know, 920 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: below average quarterback. And it's Mike Tannebaum who's a friend 921 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: of the show, and we like Mike. But he might 922 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 1: have done it again. He might have made the mistake 923 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 1: with Mark Sanchez which shipwrecked him in New York. Ultimately, 924 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: he made a couple of mistakes that ended up getting 925 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: him fired there. But he might have done it again. 926 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: Where he gave a below average quarterback a star quarterback 927 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: contract and it got him run out of town. That 928 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 1: could have happened. Didn't need to either. I mean Andrew 929 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: Luck didn't get signed last offseason. You have the fifth 930 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: year option to you. He knew you had tanne Hill 931 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: for two thousand and sixteen to why not watch him 932 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: for another year. I mean the Sanchez was a makeup 933 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: deal after they courted Peyton Manning. They they didn't have 934 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: to do well with with. There was none of that 935 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,720 Speaker 1: happening with Ryan Tannehill. So it happened, you know, based 936 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: off what he saw on tape and probably looking around 937 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: the league and saying there aren't a lot of good quarterbacks. Anyways, 938 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: Let's get our guy down and show a lot of 939 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,040 Speaker 1: faith in him. But when it blows up man and 940 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 1: it gets a Patriots get some receivers back on the 941 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 1: field this week. I mentioned this on the now Hit 942 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: twenty three or thirty targets last week to Keshan Martin 943 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: Bolden or Teams White. I do want to say I 944 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: love how Malcolm Brown is looking their first round pick. 945 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: It looks really playing well for the Patriots. So hopefully 946 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: that Patriots are going to try to win this game. Correct, Oh, yeah, 947 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 1: they have the one seed. This is a big game 948 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: for them. I'm excited about Do you think I hope 949 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: they get four quarters? Oh yeah, well if they got 950 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: a twenty point where you probably have their eye on 951 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: the scoreboard for other teams to Uh, it won't matter 952 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,919 Speaker 1: because they have to They're waiting for Denver who's at four. 953 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: So they gotta win. They're playing, and I think they 954 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 1: really want to feel good about themselves and have a 955 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,280 Speaker 1: good performance. They need they need to chow some running. 956 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 1: They just they need to work on They got some 957 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 1: problems on offense. Greig, And I know you're nervous and 958 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: I heard your voice and a lot of a lot 959 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 1: of targets to the bum wide receivers. But you still 960 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: take the ball when you win the going to us, 961 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: you still take I didn't you know? Disagreement thing? They 962 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: don't leave Tom Brady on the bench to watch Ryan. 963 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:04,280 Speaker 1: That's Patrick celebrate moving on And if East Philadelphia Eagles 964 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: against the New York Giants, it means nothing. Uh, Chip 965 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: Kelly of course fired. Uh. We talked about that at 966 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,919 Speaker 1: the top of Tuesday's show. And that means that wait 967 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: who's their intern coach? Pat Pat Shermer, former Brown's coaches, 968 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: the interim coach of the Eagles for the last game 969 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: of the season. So no Chip Kelly. The Eagles have 970 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: a lot of work to do in the off season. 971 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: I think everybody can see that O. D. B will 972 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: be back for the Giants. Uh. Nice little nugget from O. 973 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: D B who said, yes, I learned from my suspension 974 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:43,959 Speaker 1: and and my behavior against Carolina that bordered on obscene. Uh, 975 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: but I won't change. Well, I think that means he's 976 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: not gonna change his competitive fire. Well, it doesn't mean 977 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 1: he's gonna start change it a little bit or yeah, 978 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 1: I mean he said he would change the way he responded. 979 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: But the best response all week was Jeffrey Lorrie. I 980 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: think that his press conference and the way that he 981 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 1: very boldly stood behind every decision he made and his 982 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: whole strategy to basically get this team back together in 983 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 1: this final week. He wants to spend the week listening 984 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,360 Speaker 1: to the players, and no one is going to be 985 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 1: happier than this defense, this Eagles defense, which has been 986 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: a disaster. Yes they have been, but there everything's gonna 987 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: change and they're not gonna be on the field fifty 988 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: minutes a game when with with with his fast paced 989 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 1: offense on the other side, same same guy. Uh though 990 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 1: that gave Chip Killery everything he wanted a year ago. 991 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 1: It is, but so what a good a good owner 992 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: of co responsibility, just totally throwing Chip Kelly under the bus. 993 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 1: Wouldn't even think to say, oh, you know what, I 994 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 1: might have messed up a little here, like he was. Well, 995 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 1: not a lot of owners are gonna say that anyways, 996 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: but he's at least acknowledging that he messed up by 997 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: making a switch. I mean, you know, some owners just 998 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: seemed lost in the woods, and Laurie is not one 999 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: of those guys at all. In my book, when he 1000 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: was talking about, you know what he's looking for in 1001 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: the next coach, an emotional intelligence, everything, I mean I 1002 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,439 Speaker 1: thought he was talking he was talking about Andy Reid basically. Yeah, 1003 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: I thought the same exact thing, Like I thought that 1004 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: it was funny because reads, you know, dabbing with teammates 1005 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: in the locker room and getting a decent play team 1006 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: to look like a very good team. Maybe you should 1007 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: just kept a big man and his players. Well him 1008 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: and Howie Roseman didn't get along, just like Chip Kelly 1009 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: and Howie Roseman didn't get along. But Howie Roseman is 1010 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,399 Speaker 1: the one that's still there. They they're waved. They threw 1011 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 1: up smoke signals up to the Pocono Mountains, like Howie 1012 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,879 Speaker 1: come back to Philly didn't. Yeah, you're welcome in our 1013 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: office again. You didn't actually win the power struggle when 1014 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 1: the guy that you beat is now doing your job. 1015 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: That's fair. And there is something big at stake in 1016 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,759 Speaker 1: this game. As he wrote about earlier this week, Mark 1017 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: the loser has to go to London next year, and 1018 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:47,280 Speaker 1: that has to it sounds wonderful there the road team. 1019 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 1: If you made it so that the loser had to 1020 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: host the game, then that's a pretty big that's a 1021 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 1: pretty big stakes, uh, in terms of who picked. What 1022 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: is excited about that? Giants across the board. The toughest 1023 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: game for me was the Titans Cults. It's like, how 1024 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:09,399 Speaker 1: could you feel strongly either way about a lot of nightmare? UH, 1025 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 1: tougher picks. Let's move on to the late games now. 1026 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks nine and six, losers of three games, 1027 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: and they're building this season. UH. Chance to have a 1028 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,399 Speaker 1: losing record in their division travel to Arizona to face 1029 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Cardinals do have something to play for here 1030 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 1: because the lost by the Panthers in Week sixteen means 1031 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 1: that if the Panthers were to end their season with 1032 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,239 Speaker 1: two straight losses and the Cardinals won this game, the 1033 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals would have the one seed on tiebreaker over the Panthers. 1034 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a that's a pretty big thing to 1035 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: play for. So you'll see Cardinals will probably give you 1036 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 1: their best. Uh, the Seattle Seahawks, I don't know. I mean, 1037 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 1: what are the the Seahawks have any real reason to 1038 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 1: go all out in this game? Nope, they seemed to 1039 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 1: be They're locked into their their spot in the playoffs, 1040 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 1: and uh, you know what do you go? Anna? I 1041 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: think the effort here. I think the Cardinals would win 1042 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: this game anyway, because they're a much better team than Seahawks. 1043 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 1: But I I don't think the Seahawks are gonna play 1044 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: to win. I think they're gonna pull their players pretty 1045 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: early in the game. Well, they have so many injuries 1046 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: right now that they're not gonna push it with those guys. 1047 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 1: But there's only so many players you're not gonna be 1048 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,280 Speaker 1: able to sit everyone. I mean Bennett, Luke, Wilson, Russell 1049 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,319 Speaker 1: l'com cam Chancellor. Uh, there's a number of players that 1050 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 1: are hurt. Uh, but you can't really sit everyone. There's 1051 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 1: only so many, so many players that played tar virus 1052 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,799 Speaker 1: Jackson that could be an option. I mean, it's weird 1053 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: because the car This is gonna be a really strange 1054 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 1: game because if the Cardinals see that the Panthers are 1055 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: up thirty one to seven in the middle of the 1056 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: third quarter, then they can start, you know, adjusting too, 1057 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 1: and they probably will I think. I mean, Arian sounds 1058 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 1: all along this week that he does not want to 1059 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: treat this as a game that doesn't matter, and it 1060 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 1: doesn't matter obviously for the playoffs, but he seems like 1061 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 1: he wants to make a statement against a team that 1062 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 1: owned this division for a long time. I totally agree, 1063 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: and he mentioned that the Cardinals still have something at stake. 1064 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 1: But philosophically he believes that you play the games on 1065 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: the schedule, which I totally agree. Play to the game. 1066 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 1: Lynch not coming back this week, Pete Carroll kind of 1067 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 1: hinted that they expect him back for the first round 1068 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: of the playoffs. It's too bad this game doesn't mean more. 1069 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: These are actually the top two teams in the NFL 1070 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: according to Football outsiders d v o A Metrics. Seahawks 1071 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,720 Speaker 1: trying to be the number one team for the fourth 1072 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 1: straight year if they somehow had a big game. Well, 1073 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: the only two teams in the league ranked top five 1074 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,840 Speaker 1: in offense and defense, and they look that way every Sunday. 1075 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,399 Speaker 1: Hawks good special teams to look out for. The Seahawks, though. 1076 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 1: I know they're not as good as they were last year, 1077 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,959 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals are better team. But if Beast Mode 1078 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: comes back and is healthy, and they have Russell Wilson 1079 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 1: who's taking the step as a quarterback, Doug Baldwin's turned 1080 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,359 Speaker 1: into a star wide receiver lock, it's good. They could 1081 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,439 Speaker 1: prove their seed to number five, but they need help 1082 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,400 Speaker 1: to do that. And there's the argument, does is it 1083 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 1: really any easier going to Washington than it is going 1084 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 1: to Minnesota or Green Bay? At this point, Connor Or 1085 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,800 Speaker 1: because he doesn't care, took the Seahawks. The rest of 1086 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: us took the Cardinals moving on fat very nice, nice job, 1087 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 1: Sydney moving on to San Diego Chargers. They had to 1088 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 1: Denver to face the Broncos. Um Greg I need, uh, 1089 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, your combinations permutations? Break it down? What is 1090 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 1: this game? Main game mean for the Broncos. What a 1091 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 1: feeling that sounded? Uh, the Broncos. Broncos have to win 1092 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 1: this game to get a bye first of all, to 1093 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: win the a f C West, And when they suit up, 1094 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 1: they'll know whether the Patriots win or lose, so they 1095 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: might even have a chance at the number one seeds. 1096 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: So based on how this game goes, and you gotta 1097 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: think Kansas City is gonna win their game at home 1098 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: this week. Again to the Raiders. Based on how this 1099 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 1: game goes, Denver could be anywhere from the one to 1100 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: the five seed, so they still have a lot to 1101 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: play for, maybe even the I don't think they can 1102 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 1: follow the six. And you have a gut feeling that 1103 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,880 Speaker 1: the Chargers might actually win this game. I don't know 1104 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 1: why I think that, but yes, first of all, I 1105 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 1: don't think the Broncos are beating anyone by a lot 1106 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 1: right now. I think their style of play is keeping 1107 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: games closed. Philip Rivers is playing well. The San Diego 1108 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 1: defense has played very well over the last month. I 1109 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: just think they'll keep the score low. And I think 1110 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 1: the Chargers are gonna pull off an upset excitement. If 1111 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 1: they don't, they go winless in the a f C 1112 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: West for the first time in twenty one years. And 1113 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 1: it's a coaching staff that's fighting for their job right now. 1114 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,960 Speaker 1: You know what, though your bold prediction, Greg, even if 1115 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 1: you nailed it, it exists in a vacuum because you're bailed. 1116 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,879 Speaker 1: Oh from the picks, Well, it exists on NFL now, 1117 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 1: which theoretically could be a vacuum. Do you make picks 1118 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: on the other podcasts that you operated, Uh? We do. 1119 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 1: It's sort of part of a bit where he makes 1120 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:06,320 Speaker 1: joke joking picks, but yeah, I don't really sounds goods 1121 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,799 Speaker 1: and justin mcmanity project subscribe. Uh we all took the 1122 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,759 Speaker 1: Broncos uh to finish twelve and four and um put 1123 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: themselves in a good position heading into January. Moving on, gentlemen, 1124 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 1: to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who you know, stumbling to 1125 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 1: the clothes here now six and nine. Not too long ago, 1126 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 1: we were talking about them as a sneaky wild card 1127 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 1: team that's not gonna happen. They now get the Panthers. 1128 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, are they an angry Panthers team? Maybe 1129 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: they're probably angry at themselves after getting beat by the 1130 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 1: Falcons in Week sixteen, costing them a chance at the 1131 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: undefeated season. So the Panthers are fourteen and one, and 1132 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 1: as I said earlier, UH, they have a lot to 1133 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 1: play for in this game because of the loss and 1134 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 1: the Cardinals keep winning. The Panthers need to win this 1135 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 1: game to ensure uh they are the number one seed 1136 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 1: in the playoffs in the NFC. So here we go 1137 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 1: the Panthers. This to me looks like one of the 1138 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 1: blowouts of the week. Who says I'm wrong, I don't. 1139 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 1: I think. I think they're going to go in there 1140 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: like I mean, I think Carolina that served as a 1141 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 1: wake up call and a refocusing. And they're talking about 1142 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: this week that Josh Norman lost his swagger against the Falcons. 1143 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 1: He wasn't playing with confidence. But I think that it's 1144 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 1: an it's an adjustment, and they've made that adjust They 1145 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: remind me of the Cardinals in the way that they'll 1146 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 1: approach this game. And you want to go into the 1147 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 1: playoffs with two straight losses after starting fourteen and o. 1148 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 1: And this Buck's defense is not good. They have not 1149 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 1: been playing well late in the season. And you just 1150 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be able to run all over them 1151 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 1: early Carol McCoy, the sneaky worst season for a you know, 1152 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 1: quote unquote superstar player. Well, if you're an interior alignment 1153 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 1: and you've got a torn rotator cuff, deal, that's pretty 1154 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 1: I had a torn rotator cuff. It's extremely painful. Now 1155 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 1: imagine like three forty found bruisers. I couldn't live my 1156 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 1: arm over my without anybody. What about Cam Newton coming 1157 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 1: at you two hundred miles an hour with your torn 1158 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 1: roads hitter cuff West, I totally understand him having a 1159 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: subport zero empathy for a man with a major show. 1160 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 1: Wasn't really thinking it through. He hasn't had a good season. 1161 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 1: You're right, we all took the Panthers as you might 1162 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 1: expect to finish fifteen and one. Moving on, the Oakland 1163 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 1: Raiders and Kansas City Chiefs squaring off in a game 1164 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 1: that only can determine some seating in the a f 1165 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 1: C playoff picture. The Chiefs if they win this game, 1166 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 1: I believe finished. Oh I'm wrong, right because when the 1167 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 1: a f C West, because the Denver Broncos are eleven 1168 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: and four after after Monday's game, and if the Broncos 1169 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 1: lose and the Chiefs win, they both finished eleven and 1170 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 1: five and to the Chiefs win the division on tiebreak. 1171 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 1: And that's why I think I'm picking the Chargers and 1172 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: at least believing it's going to be close. It's a 1173 00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 1: little bit like Wes's wish fulfillment with the Steelers. When 1174 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 1: you look at that late slate in week seventeen, you 1175 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 1: want to have some juice, and I don't know where 1176 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 1: else we're gonna get it, other than you know, it's 1177 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 1: about six pm on the East Coast that Chiefs are 1178 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 1: winning their game and the Broncos are close, or maybe 1179 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 1: both those games are up for grabs, and you're not 1180 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 1: so sure who's gonna win the a f C West 1181 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 1: that there's something that gets the average fan excited. So 1182 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 1: that's usually when Greg's who sits in a separate part 1183 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 1: of the office than the three of us comes running 1184 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 1: over and and and stands by one of our TVs 1185 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,000 Speaker 1: to share in the joy of the moment. It's right, well, 1186 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 1: it'd be fun add some juice to this week one 1187 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 1: update for West because I was unable to answer a 1188 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 1: question I should have on the last podcast, and I 1189 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 1: heard about it from a shadowy league individual and Tomba 1190 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 1: Ali was inactive last week. You know, but sometimes Sundays 1191 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 1: a little bit have a little bit of a Vietnam 1192 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 1: field where I can't I'm not monitoring every single snap 1193 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 1: by every player and little housekeeping from little housekeeping, I 1194 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 1: thought you, I thought you're gonna mention your bold prediction 1195 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 1: for this week. Ah No, I didn't know what it's 1196 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 1: gonna be on line on Friday. You might as well 1197 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 1: give him a sneak peak. Well, it had to do 1198 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 1: with I mean not to chart back, but I said 1199 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 1: that Tennessee would lose that number one draft picking if 1200 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 1: they don't. Chris Wesleyan is tasked with in the off 1201 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 1: season once the playoffs are over, because you're busy creating 1202 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 1: a fifteen ft by fifteen ft quilt, many colored patches, 1203 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 1: watches of cloth celebrating the heavens Gate event from well, 1204 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 1: not celebrating, like looking back, looking back on it, and 1205 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,560 Speaker 1: it will be hanged at We've talked to someone inside 1206 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 1: the league. It's, you know, a couple more layers to 1207 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,600 Speaker 1: go through, but so far it sounds like once you're 1208 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 1: finished with that, it would be hung up at on 1209 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 1: the scene at the two thousand sixteen NFL Draft. Seems 1210 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 1: odd that you got the green light to hang that up. 1211 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 1: He said that there are a couple more lays. You 1212 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 1: probably have to talk to some conscious people in the 1213 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 1: league office, somebody that knows how to do a Wikipedia search. Yeah, 1214 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: but still, well, I just I'm impressed that West would 1215 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 1: know how to make it quote. Well, that's you'll be 1216 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 1: learning that, I think before we get out of this FST. 1217 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 1: I know we gotta move along, but I do realize 1218 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 1: we passed the Broncos game without even acknowledging that one 1219 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 1: of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history has been benched 1220 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 1: for Brock Osweiler. That as ugly as this season has been, 1221 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,640 Speaker 1: could you have ever imagined that Peyton Manning would lead 1222 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 1: the league in interceptions despite only starting nine games and 1223 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 1: then get benched by the end of the season. One 1224 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 1: thing that he's out with an injury. But now he's 1225 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 1: been benched. I win some sandwiches off it. I believe 1226 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,600 Speaker 1: that's great. His retirement last winner. It's crazy. It's a 1227 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 1: crazy moment that now he's fully healthy, he's fully practicing, 1228 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 1: he's on the field, But he's just he's just the back. 1229 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: First time since he played for the Tennessee Volunteers that 1230 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 1: he wasn't starting a game in which he was active. 1231 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 1: Like in another world, if it were Tom Brady instead 1232 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 1: of Manning, we would be freaking out. I mean, it 1233 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,920 Speaker 1: would completely change that. I think you know what it 1234 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,920 Speaker 1: is too though. I think his Manning is every bit 1235 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: to me is like, um, you know, iconic as Brady. 1236 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 1: But this has been kind of happening for such a 1237 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,360 Speaker 1: long period over this season, from him starting slowly and 1238 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,400 Speaker 1: regressing into being a bad quarterback, to getting hurt and 1239 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 1: then him being hurt for a long time, so it's 1240 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 1: it's not as like sudden when it's like, oh he's 1241 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 1: benching now this guy, but let me just have I'll 1242 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 1: just play Devil's advocate here. Brock Oswiler throws four picks 1243 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: and Chargers upset the Broncos in Week seventeen. Who's starting 1244 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 1: in wild Card weekend? I just don't see man and 1245 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 1: I don't see m as an upgrade. Maybe left himself 1246 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 1: a lot away picks, just a pretty bad game. I 1247 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 1: just can't shake the feeling that we're gonna see him, 1248 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 1: even if it's like a Super Bowl three, Earl Morrow 1249 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 1: starts and then Johnny United just tries to save the 1250 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 1: I don't know my super Bowl three. I don't think 1251 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 1: we'll see him. I think it will take a game 1252 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 1: like that from as well. Here. Now, if you're telling 1253 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,600 Speaker 1: me he has three picks and they score seven points 1254 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 1: or something, then then I think you could see it. 1255 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 1: I think Kubiak left himself a lot of wiggle room 1256 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 1: when he talked about them. Yeah. I agree. That also 1257 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 1: has to do though. I think with save mean some 1258 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 1: dignity for Manning two. He's had to dance around this 1259 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:04,880 Speaker 1: whole situation. But you're right, he can go right back 1260 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 1: in there and start managing. A face plant changes a 1261 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,720 Speaker 1: lot of things. Let's before we move out of this game, 1262 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 1: I just want to say that West took the Raiders 1263 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 1: in real time. I picked the Chiefs while we were 1264 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 1: having this discussion. Well, I do want to talk about 1265 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you're bailing on your hero pick there. That 1266 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,000 Speaker 1: maybe is a crisis of confidence. We go into weeks 1267 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 1: seventeen in the pics, Um, this is where it be 1268 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 1: good for Greg to have the burlap sack. But UM, 1269 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,080 Speaker 1: one fifty four and eighty six is your record. West. Uh. 1270 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 1: Kevin Patra also won one fifty four in eighties six 1271 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: tied for first place was sixteen weeks to go, sixteen games, 1272 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:47,000 Speaker 1: sixteen games to go. Excuse me, anybody's ball game? And 1273 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 1: on the phone right now, calling in from his Chicago 1274 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 1: high rise which overlooks a dreary neighborhood where all his 1275 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 1: workout equipment is in the indoh, where I think he 1276 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 1: lifts nude. It is Kevin Patrick coming at you, tied 1277 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 1: for first, and he's confident that he's gonna take this 1278 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:12,200 Speaker 1: tightly picked up two games on West in week sixteen, 1279 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 1: and now he's gonna steal in week seventeen. Eight. That right, 1280 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick West, how many picks of your crappy picks 1281 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:24,880 Speaker 1: you can change now? Now, you Kevin Pattins, you can 1282 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 1: bail on the Jags and and and Rex Ryan and 1283 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 1: on the last minute too, you know, bail on those ones. 1284 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,920 Speaker 1: Just make sure you don't get West out of the 1285 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 1: out of the building. Oh, would say, Patrick's probably gonna 1286 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: win because he clearly cares so much more about this 1287 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 1: West pulling the I don't care as much card, don't 1288 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:45,720 Speaker 1: buy it. Also, defense he led for most of the season, 1289 01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 1: he did. This is uh. No one has been tracking 1290 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,840 Speaker 1: this really other than the five of us. But I 1291 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 1: will say, uh, and I'm not counting Connor. Um. Patrick 1292 01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 1: jumped out to a huge lead, was one of the 1293 01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 1: nation's top pundits in fact through about week and then 1294 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 1: he kind of regressed a little bit to the mean. 1295 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 1: Um West caught Patrick after falling behind probably about ten 1296 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 1: games early, and surged pass Patrick. But then Kevin, as 1297 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,360 Speaker 1: I said, heroically picked up two games in week sixteen, 1298 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,600 Speaker 1: which is not easy to do. So here they are, 1299 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 1: they're tied, uh with a chance for a photo finish, 1300 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 1: and I don't buy it. I think West really wants 1301 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 1: this bad. I know Patra wants it. It's a it 1302 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 1: would be a big victory for the remote uh section 1303 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 1: of the around the NFL group. Uh, me and me 1304 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,760 Speaker 1: and Connor will be doing a skype drinking session if 1305 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 1: that happens, exactly. Please, Connor shouldn't be involved in actly 1306 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 1: any celebration where he's twenty games behind two of you guys. Yeah, 1307 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,880 Speaker 1: but it'll be a first in the last celebration. Both 1308 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:51,160 Speaker 1: reasons to drink. That's true. So you are Kevin, your 1309 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 1: your confident You're going to complete this comeback in the 1310 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 1: last two weeks. I don't even know if I can 1311 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 1: see come back. I consider myself like the San Antonio Spurs. 1312 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,560 Speaker 1: I usually played really well in the beginning, see rest 1313 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 1: some of my starters getting layoffs, and then I'm ready 1314 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,000 Speaker 1: to go and I die down the at the end. 1315 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 1: So not only not only that I like that analogy, 1316 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 1: the fact that that's West's favorite team hurts him even more. 1317 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,040 Speaker 1: Very well done, West. Yeah, I don't like the comparison 1318 01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,439 Speaker 1: to the Spurs for Patrick, but I think I think 1319 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna win. It boils down to, like it's a 1320 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 1: dirty little secret that I don't really care about, something 1321 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 1: about carrying that affects the results of the games anyway, 1322 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how much it dies for game picks, 1323 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 1: and like it really eats him up when things I 1324 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 1: don't really care, like to me, any anything can happen 1325 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 1: in one week, so it's never that big of course, 1326 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 1: of course, But you care enough where you're switching picks 1327 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 1: in the middle of the podcast. Well, I mean, I'm competing. 1328 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 1: I love to compete, I don't I hate to lose. 1329 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 1: Why are you trying to take the air out of 1330 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 1: you just said he hates to lose a lot of 1331 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,880 Speaker 1: conflicting them. I'm a little conflicted because about me. I 1332 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 1: don't really care that much about game picking. But you're 1333 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,120 Speaker 1: keeping scores, so I'm gonna try to win. That is 1334 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 1: nothing to do with who's gonna win or lose. That 1335 01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:01,439 Speaker 1: the level of your carrying helps or hurts with Dan, Yeah, 1336 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,480 Speaker 1: but I mean it comes down do we believe more 1337 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:08,240 Speaker 1: in a naked weightlifter or West? You gotta go with Wet. 1338 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 1: Here's how here's how much I'm willing to set up 1339 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 1: a pose on the table. I'm so confident that if 1340 01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 1: the loser picks up the person's bar tab the next 1341 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,839 Speaker 1: time we go out. All right, now, I care Patrick, 1342 01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,479 Speaker 1: how much money do you have? Patra he just got 1343 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 1: watch out, Patrick, he just changed his bills, picking his jags, 1344 01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:39,639 Speaker 1: picking anything else? Probably, Pat, I'm good. I love it. Alright, 1345 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,120 Speaker 1: that sounds all right? And you agree to that, West, Yes, 1346 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,280 Speaker 1: I definitely agree to that. So there you go. So now, uh, 1347 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:47,840 Speaker 1: and how many games do we do? That's not just 1348 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,360 Speaker 1: any bar tab. It's not like a Sydney and Me 1349 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,639 Speaker 1: bar tab. This is West and Patrick. They can they 1350 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 1: can put it down. You know, we'll be good. By 1351 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:02,519 Speaker 1: the way, Sydney and bar tab is like two Shirley temples, 1352 01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 1: one vodka soda and a diet Coke. I almost throw 1353 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 1: you in with me, because if it was gonna be 1354 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 1: someone else out of this particular room, it would be Yeah, 1355 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:15,680 Speaker 1: but cents. I like that narrative. That's good. They had 1356 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:20,960 Speaker 1: a teetotal. Uh to the Cousins corner. Wow, Dan came 1357 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 1: out well in that comparison. I'm not even gonna say 1358 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 1: anything my wife would say otherwise, But here we go. 1359 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,160 Speaker 1: There you go, Patrick, Kevin, Patrick, coming at you. Keep 1360 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 1: lifting keet that body tight, keep it right. And uh, 1361 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,519 Speaker 1: I'm not rooting for either or. I want to just 1362 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,840 Speaker 1: a safe, fair competition and I want to be at 1363 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:44,280 Speaker 1: the bar when these drinks are being ingested. Patrick, your buddy, buddy, 1364 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. I like that little get 1365 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,240 Speaker 1: the stakes higher, a little heat. Yeah, here we go. 1366 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:55,600 Speaker 1: The St. Louis Rams at the San Francisco forty niners. 1367 01:09:55,640 --> 01:10:00,800 Speaker 1: Ain't that climactic? Don't care? We oh there, we know 1368 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,800 Speaker 1: the forty nine is are terrible, and we know that 1369 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:05,880 Speaker 1: the Rams aren't gonna win because they need to go 1370 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,519 Speaker 1: seven and nine. So it looks like a nine or 1371 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,680 Speaker 1: his victory. Right, Yeah, I don't know what else you 1372 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,240 Speaker 1: could possibly say, so let's not say anything else to 1373 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:19,320 Speaker 1: Sunday night football. Here we go the Minnesota Vikings traveling 1374 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,759 Speaker 1: to lambeau Field to face the Green Bay Packers, two 1375 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,519 Speaker 1: teams that are tenant five. The winner of this game 1376 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,519 Speaker 1: is the NFC North champion. The loser is in the 1377 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,000 Speaker 1: wild card, either the fifth or sixth seed, and they 1378 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,439 Speaker 1: will know that by the time of kickoff. So here 1379 01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 1: we go the Packers, who have looked as bad as 1380 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 1: can be in a bunch of weeks in the second 1381 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,719 Speaker 1: half of the season, but at home playing a Viking 1382 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:48,840 Speaker 1: team that they handled quite easily in Minnesota a few 1383 01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Do you guys for him? Here's something that's 1384 01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 1: in your little research packet. Sins not little, It's thick 1385 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 1: and it's awesome. Since Week four, Aaron Rodgers has been 1386 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:07,040 Speaker 1: sacked more than any quarterback in the NFL. I I 1387 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,559 Speaker 1: gotta take the Vikings in this game. If I was 1388 01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:13,479 Speaker 1: allowed to pick, because you were allowed to pick, but 1389 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,879 Speaker 1: you opted out, maybe I'll come back for the playoffs. 1390 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,439 Speaker 1: I don't care about the playoffs. We can do that, 1391 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:21,360 Speaker 1: but we'll talk about that later. Uh. The Vikings are 1392 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 1: playing much better right now, and I think you gotta 1393 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,920 Speaker 1: trust you gotta trust the tape and forget about who 1394 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,080 Speaker 1: the Packers have been and look at what they've actually 1395 01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,960 Speaker 1: been the last twelve weeks. And Teddy Bridgewater is playing 1396 01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 1: exactly like he finished last season, which got everyone excited 1397 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:36,680 Speaker 1: that he was going to be the best player in 1398 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,160 Speaker 1: that class. He's had three really strong games in a 1399 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,160 Speaker 1: row where he's playing smart. They're getting the ball out 1400 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 1: of his hand better, their defense is healthier. I think 1401 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 1: this game means more to them because they haven't been 1402 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,559 Speaker 1: in a game like this and they're playing good team ball. 1403 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,160 Speaker 1: They're not a great team, but they're like the tenth 1404 01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:51,760 Speaker 1: best team in the league. I think they're gonna go 1405 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 1: in and win this game. They got waxed by green 1406 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,559 Speaker 1: Bay last time. I think Minnesota secondary the matchup of 1407 01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 1: where they're playing right now. Harrison Smith in that group 1408 01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 1: is playing very well against green Bay's confused passing game. 1409 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,400 Speaker 1: I don't like the matchup for green Bay, but it 1410 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,120 Speaker 1: is in lambeau Field and it's it's what Sunday night. 1411 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,280 Speaker 1: You can see them as we're sitting up here doing 1412 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:13,479 Speaker 1: the podcast up thirty eight to seven. But I still stuck. 1413 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm still stuck sometimes with the Packers thinking they're just 1414 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 1: gonna do that, but you gotta go They're not that team. 1415 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 1: I brought it up a couple of times in the 1416 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,080 Speaker 1: last few podcasts, but because the game sticks with me 1417 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,439 Speaker 1: and I still can't believe it that they got beat 1418 01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:29,040 Speaker 1: on Brett Farve night on Thanksgiving Night at home. That 1419 01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,120 Speaker 1: team can be beat any week if they can't find 1420 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,600 Speaker 1: a way to win win that week. They are just 1421 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 1: not a very good team the season. The Vikings are 1422 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:40,200 Speaker 1: better team. Give me the good Packers performance since Week four. 1423 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,960 Speaker 1: The one one you can come up with is against 1424 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,479 Speaker 1: Minnesota in Minnesota. But even in that game they got 1425 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,479 Speaker 1: outgained by Minnesota. Didn't look like a crazy thing. They 1426 01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,680 Speaker 1: played well in that game, nothing taken away from it, 1427 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,280 Speaker 1: but it wasn't a dominant performance. But week after week 1428 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,840 Speaker 1: they're not impressive. I mean, to just get waxed by 1429 01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,719 Speaker 1: that by the Cardinals, and the week before was concerning 1430 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:01,800 Speaker 1: to me against Oakland. I don't know. I mean, just 1431 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 1: they're not competitive. I know it's the Cardinals, but they're 1432 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,120 Speaker 1: not even competitive West. This is supposed to be a 1433 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:10,400 Speaker 1: playoff take. Viking Subbreddit just wheeled in a huge mousey 1434 01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:14,960 Speaker 1: tong size statue of Greg Rosenthal. Oh wow, wow, I 1435 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,320 Speaker 1: was the biggest enemy early on this. I think has 1436 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,840 Speaker 1: that cornered that market corner, by the way, and I 1437 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,280 Speaker 1: just want not to double back to the QB Index, 1438 01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,920 Speaker 1: But we will talk about this about the Packers from 1439 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:29,000 Speaker 1: the two thousand fifteen season weeks seventeen. Research Notes will 1440 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 1: dig in one last time. You have this album. Yeah, 1441 01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:46,280 Speaker 1: that's right, this is an embarrassing album. Um. The QB 1442 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,320 Speaker 1: index is I believe based on the two thousand fifteen season. 1443 01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,960 Speaker 1: But I think I think with Aaron Rodgers, his incredible 1444 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 1: history has leaked into your QB index. And I'll tell 1445 01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,800 Speaker 1: you something from the stat guy here, research guy. Over 1446 01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,680 Speaker 1: the prior seven seasons in the NFL, Rogers led the 1447 01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,000 Speaker 1: league in yards per attempt and passer rating. This season 1448 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:09,759 Speaker 1: he is thirty feet in yards per attempt and thirteenth 1449 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,880 Speaker 1: and passer rating. Now, the passer rating, you don't get 1450 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,960 Speaker 1: excited about that, but yards per attempt as a stat 1451 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,200 Speaker 1: I know the around the NFL podcast loves he is 1452 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,280 Speaker 1: thirty first in football. You have him as the sixth 1453 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,760 Speaker 1: ranked quarterback in the entire league. He just is not 1454 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,240 Speaker 1: that quarterback this year. Maybe he just doesn't have the 1455 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,280 Speaker 1: weapons and there are other things going on, but Aaron 1456 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:31,840 Speaker 1: Rodgers is not Aaron Rodgers Thirty touchdowns, seven interceptions, which 1457 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,280 Speaker 1: is a lot better than these guys you're talking up 1458 01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:39,559 Speaker 1: having career seasons and best quarter of the season, great 1459 01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 1: first quarter of the season, which helps him and you 1460 01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,200 Speaker 1: watch the games, and yes, maybe you're making excuses for him, 1461 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,920 Speaker 1: but it still feels like he's managing what's a really 1462 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,640 Speaker 1: bad situation and he's not playing well either. I'm not 1463 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,599 Speaker 1: trying to defend him. He's been part of the problem 1464 01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,960 Speaker 1: in the second half of the season, definitely, but he 1465 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 1: did I really think his first quarter of the season 1466 01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,720 Speaker 1: was the was the best I've ever seen. Mm. I 1467 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,639 Speaker 1: like this, but I'm looking at We're just having Patrick 1468 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,560 Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Football. He has the vikings and a 1469 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:10,400 Speaker 1: hero pick. It could come to that game. I like it. 1470 01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 1: I think Patrick is going to pick off with that one. 1471 01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,600 Speaker 1: The drama, the steaks as high as possible, that's the 1472 01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's his corner. He's the NFC North Guru. 1473 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,599 Speaker 1: Every week he's assigned one of those NFC North games, 1474 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,120 Speaker 1: so he's got a good feel of that division. Would 1475 01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,200 Speaker 1: not shock me if the Vikings, if he loses on 1476 01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,400 Speaker 1: his the first time, the Vikings be a good team 1477 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,760 Speaker 1: all year. If you're up by one going into that game, 1478 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:36,000 Speaker 1: do you just side up with the Vikings to do that? 1479 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 1: I don't play that game at kay Patrick. By the way, 1480 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,280 Speaker 1: if you want to follow him on Twitter, I think 1481 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,200 Speaker 1: you can do anything you want. No, this is the 1482 01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,760 Speaker 1: type of thing that got me out of the game. 1483 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:50,400 Speaker 1: I might make some changes. Someone's changing their picks, please. 1484 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,080 Speaker 1: I might make changes Sunday morning based on which teams 1485 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:56,280 Speaker 1: are trying to win or benching starters once the game start. 1486 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,599 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make Greg. You fostered a I'm gonna 1487 01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:03,600 Speaker 1: say it toxic culd oh. That is the responsible for 1488 01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 1: anything that was happening at that stage. I was responsible 1489 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:10,200 Speaker 1: for getting texts from you guys that Christmas Eve annoyed 1490 01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,920 Speaker 1: with each other about picks and whatnot. You you created that. 1491 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,920 Speaker 1: I can guarantee I didn't text about the pick. You 1492 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,280 Speaker 1: created that culture, all right. That's why I need to 1493 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 1: step back. I created something just like work environment where 1494 01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,599 Speaker 1: we're all football. I created something bad. I need to 1495 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,519 Speaker 1: take myself out of it. Yes, he also created a 1496 01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,639 Speaker 1: culture where we don't say bless you when we sneak 1497 01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,960 Speaker 1: And ever since Gregg moved to his little party zone 1498 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,120 Speaker 1: in the middle of the newsroom and we've had our 1499 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,240 Speaker 1: little area together to make it sound like it was 1500 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:44,720 Speaker 1: my choice. Bless use galore, a lot of blessings, blessings 1501 01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:48,040 Speaker 1: all around. It wasn't Greg's choice. We're picking on a 1502 01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,040 Speaker 1: little bit. I'm all for bless you. I actually got 1503 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,280 Speaker 1: picked on for saying bless you. There's an anti bless 1504 01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 1: you person in there at all. But that's we're really 1505 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,760 Speaker 1: getting off topic. Yeah, alright, so anyway, yes, we all 1506 01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 1: took the package of the exception the Patrick. I love that. 1507 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,280 Speaker 1: That's gonna be drama galore potentially. And that is the 1508 01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,800 Speaker 1: week seventeen preview. We will be back on the other side. 1509 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,439 Speaker 1: Next time we talked to our audience, it will be 1510 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,680 Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen. Uh so, yeah, I guess do we 1511 01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:15,960 Speaker 1: have some what is that song? I always get the 1512 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:24,720 Speaker 1: title wrong? Uh odd ling zing old Lang song? I 1513 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:32,360 Speaker 1: bring that up for a second here. Yes, New Year's Eve, 1514 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,839 Speaker 1: so just a happy New Year. I think we all 1515 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 1: speak on the after the group to all the listeners 1516 01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,360 Speaker 1: and viewers of the Around the NFL podcast see on 1517 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:46,760 Speaker 1: the other side, what has been a very happy year 1518 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,880 Speaker 1: for the Around the NFL Podcast. And uh we hope 1519 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,840 Speaker 1: to bring more magic, right Greg, and we got big 1520 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,800 Speaker 1: things going on even in January about after the New year. 1521 01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,840 Speaker 1: Well fits magic now if we has anything to do 1522 01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,360 Speaker 1: with it though, um so yes, Happy New Year at 1523 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,000 Speaker 1: everybody and check us out on Sunday. You can check 1524 01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:09,120 Speaker 1: us out always of course on iTunes, on Stitcher, on 1525 01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:14,040 Speaker 1: NFL dot com, on YouTube NFL Now. That's it this 1526 01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:19,559 Speaker 1: Dan hands us signing off for Quiet Storm. That was jarring. 1527 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:24,080 Speaker 1: Happy New Year to YouTube Sydney, Quiet Storm, The Mailman, 1528 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:28,720 Speaker 1: the Boss and last side behind the Glass. Happy New Year. 1529 01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:51,400 Speaker 1: Tell Sunday what's up everybody? D J Bucky here with 1530 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,240 Speaker 1: moved the Sticks Bucky tell everybody what's coming up on 1531 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:54,800 Speaker 1: this week's episode. We can take a look at somebody 1532 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,519 Speaker 1: contenders and see if we're confident or concerned as they 1533 01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,800 Speaker 1: head down the stretch. Also, what's going on with a 1534 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,879 Speaker 1: Rogers and finally coached Bill It calls in. We discussed 1535 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:04,040 Speaker 1: some of the coaches on the hot seat and a 1536 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:05,639 Speaker 1: lot of ground to cover on this week's Move the Sick. 1537 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,799 Speaker 1: Check it out NFL dot com, Slash podcast, or iTunes, 1538 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:16,040 Speaker 1: or why not check out the video on YouTube.