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Speaker 2: That all the time, all the time, like when you

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Speaker 2: when you care, Yeah, I can see it in the eyes.

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Speaker 2: And damn, Like we had a couple of game sevens

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Speaker 1: Didn't step up, and you could tell what that I.

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Speaker 2: Already knew they we wasn't going to step up because

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Speaker 2: it's the topic of conversation. Damn, Like is he like

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Speaker 2: if you have the I don't care attitude, Yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: going to take thirty shots not eight, right right, I

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Speaker 2: don't get what you said, Okay about my last five

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Speaker 2: like he can't like he cares what people say, like

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Speaker 2: that's hall of fame when you still make that money

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Speaker 2: but you care, people say, you're just adding to your narrative.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like I can see it when I'm

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Speaker 2: Much and I'm trying to teach my guy. Adam's top

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Speaker 2: care because he really like he's Mexic line and once

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Speaker 2: he stopped caring to be the man because yeah, like

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Speaker 1: You know who? Just random side note, when I watched basketball,

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Speaker 1: Yeah he does. LaMelo plays like you're at fitness. I'm like, bro,

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Speaker 2: Green light, but I had to get to what's going

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Speaker 1: All but because I've watched like older you.

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Speaker 2: And then they changed the rules for me, like that

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Speaker 3: We're seeing this in the NBA as well. A few

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just saw I'm talking about that.

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Speaker 3: He his whole thing was He's like, why am I

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Speaker 1: and owners hate when a player doesn't have an agent?

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Speaker 1: Are they like this Prima Donna? And then they like

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Speaker 2: Or I think they enjoy it because you know, as

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Speaker 2: So I think they enjoy it. For example, remember when

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Speaker 1: Ever it is you know he did he remember that?

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Speaker 1: But for like, if you're if you're an NBA player,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is I'm not taking the.

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Speaker 2: Least who would? Now you go talk.

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Speaker 1: How you speak alien to the other alien. Just figure

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Speaker 2: Then when and then when you give it to me.

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Speaker 2: I love you and I trust you, but let me

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Speaker 2: And so I've I've always had too. You see this,

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Speaker 2: So the first thing you do, who is this guy?

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Speaker 2: that that validates you or is already somebody in your life, Dad,

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Speaker 2: Rather manage your boys like me. If it ain't part

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you say.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, it's only it's only a

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Speaker 2: there's somebody from a big jewelry things that maybe you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you're right, man. You know what I

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Speaker 1: on jersey sales. Because as like as an athlete, everyone

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Speaker 1: That's how this hole works. So I think naturally that's

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Speaker 2: but this public right here, we don't have time to

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Speaker 2: help me. We work. Yeah, we got time to write

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Speaker 2: I don't have a job. And I listened to you again,

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Speaker 2: more snap on the snare, like I'll give it, but

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Speaker 2: I'm never gonna let it get to me. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: I had to learn how to because we we all

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the movie the fan

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Speaker 2: Robert de Niro, Wesley snaps, So Robert de Niro kidnaps.

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Speaker 2: Wessey snaps because he's a famous baseball player, not to

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Speaker 2: you're the best baseball player. Ever, how do you do it?

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Speaker 2: And Wessey says, I don't care. Now Robert gets bad.

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Speaker 2: You mean you don't care? He said, I don't care.

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Speaker 2: Once I started doing that championships business.

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Speaker 2: It was a long time ago, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, because you're right, Like I was getting

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