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Speaker 1: What is up?

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Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 2: Up Podcast. Just wrapped up the first series coming out

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Speaker 2: of the break against the Miami Marlins. It was one

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Speaker 2: of the series of all time, that is for sure.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna talk about that. We've got trade deadline,

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Speaker 2: a big, dense trade deadline preview coming in at the

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Speaker 2: end of this episode, along with just talking about Jeff McNeil,

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Speaker 2: Pete Alonso, the pitching, Edwin Diaz. A ton of stuff

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Speaker 2: has been going on since we last spoke to you.

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Speaker 2: We want to catch up and do it, so let's

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Speaker 2: you want to shout out, that's the way to do it.

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Speaker 1: James.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we also have a Subway series preview with Zach.

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Speaker 2: From Makeshift Project for those of you who know the

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Speaker 2: TikTok and Instagram world that's coming in at the end

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: But James, how are we doing. I haven't spoke to

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Speaker 3: you in a couple hours. Yeah, been a few hours,

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Speaker 3: A long time for us usually nice. I thought this

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Speaker 3: mess game is gonna be a lot easier tonight wind

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Speaker 3: up being not as easy as would like to be,

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Speaker 3: trying to just relax and cook some dinner and watch it,

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Speaker 3: and then I had to start sweating. But my roommates

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Speaker 3: were just like trying to talk in and break our conversation.

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Speaker 3: Was great, give me a second, give me a second,

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Speaker 3: give me a second, just staring at the fuck my

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Speaker 3: fucking computers screen in the corner. But nice. Good way

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Speaker 3: to end this series and not lose it, because if

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Speaker 3: we lost it, I think people would have been like

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Speaker 3: flipping a shit. But the fact that we want it

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Speaker 3: and we're able to feel good in the last game

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Speaker 3: mostly and like get to the Subway series or just

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Speaker 3: a split series rather than a loss series. It really

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Speaker 3: calms us all down a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was in a battle with Notre Dame in college

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Speaker 2: football twenty five on my UTSA Dynasty. I made the

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Speaker 2: College FOOTBA Playoffs in the first year, went into overtime

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Speaker 2: as the ninth innings coming along. It was tense moments,

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Speaker 2: but luckily both my UTSA Roadrunners and then New York

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Speaker 2: Mets came out on top. So we're moving on to

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Speaker 2: the next round playing Texas in a rematch. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: be crazy, can't. If you guys aren't about the college

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Speaker 2: football video game that came out, I sug just go

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Speaker 2: buy it and PlayStation five or an Xbox.

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Speaker 1: You need to.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible. If you like any sort of college football,

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Speaker 2: might's coming tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I'm super excited about it. I know you guys love

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Speaker 3: me talking about college football in the show, but talk

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Speaker 3: about the Marlins because the seasons again, this had just

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Speaker 3: had a chance to derail and make us like kind

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Speaker 3: of all nervous and scared and have not, And I

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Speaker 3: kind of hate that narrative. I was talking about a

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Speaker 3: lot on Saturday morning that for some reason, Mets fans

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Speaker 3: have this idea in their head that we aren't good

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Speaker 3: against the Marlins. I understand we've had some horrible losses

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Speaker 3: to them, like in our lives, and especially like in

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Speaker 3: that ballpark. It seems like we've had some seasons go

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Speaker 3: there to die. But since twenty eighteen, we've played one

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Speaker 3: hundred and nine games against the Marlins, pretty substantial part

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Speaker 3: of the season. Almost where we are in this season

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Speaker 3: right now, Mets are sixty eight and forty one. They

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Speaker 3: kill this team. They have better than a six sixty

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Speaker 3: six percentag against this Marlins team. So I hate that narrative.

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Speaker 3: Just gonna start the episode with that, we salvage a series.

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Speaker 3: Thank god, I've with lost that. Would never have told

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Speaker 3: we didn't lose it, and we've won every season series

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's easy to remember the bad

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Speaker 2: Like it's it's because that's what you're supposed to do.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna remember the things that are not the norm

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Speaker 2: and not the norm is actually losing to this team.

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Speaker 2: Despite what everybody on Twitter and even in the media

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Speaker 2: like to say about how the Mets played the Marlins. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: sixty eight and forty one pretty good. Keep moving it

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Speaker 2: along here against them this series. It was frustrating though,

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Speaker 2: because coming into this series, I mean, the Mets needed

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Speaker 2: to at least split, needed to at least split, really

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Speaker 2: wanted three out of four again this Marlins team, so

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Speaker 2: they play horrible, horrible baseball.

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Speaker 3: Skiped Schumacher.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a bad manager, but I do

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Speaker 2: feel like he's kind of phoned it in a little

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Speaker 2: back at the end of the season on his own accord,

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Speaker 2: not because the Marlins buy any chance, but they play

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Speaker 2: sloppy baseball, they take terrible at bats, and yet somehow

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Speaker 2: we still played close games with them despite being a

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Speaker 2: far superior team.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'll say I don't I'm not gonna necessarily

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Speaker 3: you see the lineups that the Marlins are throwing out

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Speaker 3: of course series, like today the Marlins had Ade Lopez

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Speaker 3: hitting fifth and playing center field. He's neither a five

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Speaker 3: hitter or a center fielder like Neily. He's a six

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Speaker 3: sixteen ops. He's hitting fifth and playing center field. He's

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Speaker 3: not a center fielder. He's a second baseman. Xavier Edwards

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Speaker 3: is hitting six. He's actually been a good story since

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Speaker 3: he came out, but he's no real kind of player.

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Speaker 3: Bhan just never became anything. Kills Yanni Cherry knows every

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Speaker 3: single game gives up five runs. They leave him into

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Speaker 3: for five six innings just because why not, Like it's

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Speaker 3: I understand like it might feel like sometimes that he's

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Speaker 3: even before this is before the trade deadline. Stuff like

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Speaker 3: these are September Lions. I'm all throwing out in the

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Speaker 3: For any Morlands fans out there, I am. I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna say I feel for them at all. Yeah, two

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Speaker 3: World Series, fuck them, Yeah, I guess fuck them. But

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Speaker 3: it just sucks out, like I don't know you, you're

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Speaker 3: last year and then now the second next year, you

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Speaker 3: have no chance to do anything doesn't suck. Fuck them.

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Speaker 2: Fuck the Marlins fans. I feel no, I feel nothing

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Speaker 2: but wanting to kill that franchise every single time we

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Speaker 3: I oh no, we've won two World Series in twenty

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Speaker 3: five years. Oh I feel to be win one won

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Speaker 2: They could go fuck themselves, any Moorlands fans that are

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's think, since two thousand and three, who

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Speaker 3: has more World Series than the Marlins, Just the Red Sox,

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals, Astras are As. Of course, since two thousand

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Speaker 3: and three, they only have one. So I got again

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Speaker 3: concluding two thousand and three, Oh yeah, forgot, that was

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Speaker 3: ninety eight. They were in the nineties. Fun idiot. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, I guess, I mean, I guess you're right.

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Speaker 3: But it's just crazy to see a line up like

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Speaker 3: this in the middle of July for a team that

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Speaker 3: wasn't the playoffs last year. It's sure, it's a little

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Speaker 3: bit embarrassing, but we also knew.

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Speaker 2: That that team was terrible and somehow made the playoffs by

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Speaker 2: sheer luck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah luck, I mean also just because also Rob Manfred

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Speaker 3: just bastardizing the game we love. But this was a

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Speaker 3: really really frustrating series, especially until Monday, because the Mets

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Speaker 3: refuse to get any hits in the clean clutch situations.

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Speaker 3: And it is something that just llell was osol a

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Speaker 3: lot in a team because you get a hit running

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Speaker 3: and scoring position, it's a lot. This just comes down

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Speaker 3: guys Keith will never let you know that, but it's

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Speaker 3: what it comes down to. But on it's a lot

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Speaker 3: Friday we were one for seven runnings coring position. Saturday

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Speaker 3: we were oh for seven runs of scoring position. Sunday

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Speaker 3: we were one for eighth runs of scoring position. That's

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Speaker 3: egregiously bad. It's two for twenty two in three days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough, and I mean part of the reason

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Speaker 2: has been a little bit cold coming out of the break,

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Speaker 2: although we got I think a couple hits in Game four,

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Speaker 2: and Lindor has been incredible, But those guys were getting

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Speaker 2: couldn't do anything the first three games. I mean Pete,

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Speaker 2: Pete's going through it. We've been saying this now for

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Speaker 2: I feel like two or three episodes, but truthfully, this

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Speaker 2: going through it the most. Jeremy Barnes even made a

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Speaker 2: comment that he's press pressing unbelievably hard, and you can

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Speaker 2: see it with every single thing that Pete does. He

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Speaker 2: made that horrendous throw on that ground ball to him

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Speaker 2: Like just wake up, like, take a deep breath, play

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Speaker 2: some baseball. You're a great baseball player, act like it.

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Speaker 2: And he's just he's really become like mentally one of

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Speaker 2: the weaker players that I've seen a long time, which

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Speaker 2: really sucks and even more of a reason why this

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Speaker 2: dude desperately needs a standing ovation when they come back

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Speaker 2: to City Field on Thursday. But man, everything is broken

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Speaker 3: At the same time, got a lot of stats on

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Speaker 3: Pete when necessarily has gone wrong this year, and it's

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Speaker 3: not even necessarily what's gone wrong, because I think it's

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Speaker 3: just a lot of again him his mentality and his approach,

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Speaker 3: and maybe a lot of it does come down to pressing.

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Speaker 3: It seems like that, and the fact a hitting coach

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Speaker 3: But sny flash the stat today that Pete is just

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Speaker 3: doing a lot less damage, specifically on breaking balls. He

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Speaker 3: used to hammer sliders. This year, he's miserable against slyers.

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Speaker 3: I think he has a negative seven run value against them,

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Speaker 3: which is atrocially bad. And then I got deeper into

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Speaker 3: a little bit more. Something we talked about when the

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Speaker 3: Mets were playing their worst in May is that the

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Speaker 3: team was not aggressive enough in the hardest strike zone.

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Speaker 3: The team was letting a couple too many strikes go by.

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Speaker 3: And I think Ludoor nemo j D Martinez Alparez Vieno's

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Speaker 3: think a lot of players have gone a lot better

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Speaker 3: at that, while Pete has still been kind of stuck

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Speaker 3: in that same shitty malaise where he doesn't he doesn't

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Speaker 3: have I don't think he goes up to the plate

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Speaker 3: I just think that his plan is put my bat

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Speaker 3: just making a lot more contact, but it's a lot

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Speaker 3: just saying he's he's he's one of the best players

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Speaker 3: that any of us are gonna see and wearing at

434
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Speaker 3: uniform like sure, yeah, just like I know these people

435
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Speaker 3: that don't like him.

436
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Speaker 2: There was a dude on YouTube who just released a

437
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Speaker 2: video about Francisco Indoor. I think his name is like

438
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Speaker 2: three to zero green Light on YouTube. You guy should

439
00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,560
Speaker 2: check it out. And it's basically it was about the

440
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Speaker 2: whole problem with Francisco Indoor and why people don't appreciate him,

441
00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,359
Speaker 2: and it was a really good video. It was just

442
00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,760
Speaker 2: about because he came up and put up those crazy

443
00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,600
Speaker 2: counting numbers and despite the fact that those counting numbers

444
00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,000
Speaker 2: can't exist anymore because the game has changed, people expect

445
00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,560
Speaker 2: him to still be a forty home run by a

446
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Speaker 2: year and that's just not possible because things have literally changed.

447
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Speaker 3: Him hitting those home runs was bullshit. That baseball was insane,

448
00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,720
Speaker 3: Like he had thirty eight homers and forty two doubles,

449
00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,520
Speaker 3: and he had a WRC plus that was barely higher

450
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Speaker 3: than his was last year when he went thirty thirty. Like,

451
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Speaker 3: it's just the game is different even right since that

452
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Speaker 3: standing ovation. Of course, he has the thirteenth highest WRC

453
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Speaker 3: plus in baseball. He has the crazy high by the way,

454
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Speaker 3: thirteenth highest is so high, and the thirteenth most homers

455
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Speaker 3: in baseball. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's like it's all,

456
00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,679
Speaker 3: it's all really good. He's fucking super good. And then

457
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Speaker 3: let's check wars. Just don't want to check waters check war.

458
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Speaker 3: Uh the it's the fifth highest, Okay, behind who no

459
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Speaker 3: One in the National League. Okay, so Aaron Judge, Gunner Henderson,

460
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Speaker 3: Bobby Wood Junior Wan So though, Oh so, MVP candidate's

461
00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,920
Speaker 3: got it. Yeah, so based on bar since standing ovation,

462
00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,280
Speaker 3: he probably should be an MVP candidate. Yeah, definitely, I digress.

463
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Speaker 3: He's really good. We have to appreciate hi last year.

464
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Speaker 2: Yes, speaking of which, really good, Jeff McNeil had a

465
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Speaker 2: really good series. Francisco Lindor after the game said that

466
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Speaker 2: jeffcnial's having fun.

467
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Speaker 3: He likes when Jeff's having fun. Well, he enjoys when

468
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Speaker 3: McNeil is happy. He's glad to see it, and you

469
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Speaker 3: know what, I am too, because Jeff McNeil had been pressing,

470
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Speaker 3: maybe as hard as Pete Alonso f not harder all year.

471
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Speaker 2: Something that he got down in Miami. I know that's

472
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Speaker 2: where the guys stay down there during spring training. So

473
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Speaker 2: maybe he got to go back to his Florida home,

474
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Speaker 2: maybe play a little golf. I don't know what it was,

475
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Speaker 2: but he's just he crushed baseball. This series had three

476
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Speaker 2: home runs. What did Jeff have two home runs coming

477
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Speaker 2: into the series.

478
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Speaker 3: I think five. On the season he had five. I

479
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Speaker 3: think he had five. No, I'm almost positive toothm right

480
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Speaker 3: in Ohio. Oh yeah, he did hit a couple at

481
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Speaker 3: City Field.

482
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Speaker 2: I was thinking of only on the road, but regardless,

483
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Speaker 2: played incredible and he was phenomenal in the field. He

484
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Speaker 2: made that he robbed Brian da la Cruz of that

485
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Speaker 2: home running Game one. He almost bought the game on Monday,

486
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Speaker 2: not covering second base for sure, almost box.

487
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Speaker 1: But it does matter.

488
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Speaker 3: We won, know, so it's positive. It's all good.

489
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Speaker 2: We don't worry about it. Can't worry about that. He

490
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,639
Speaker 2: made a great throw to throw out dal Breuhan on

491
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Speaker 2: the triple on the relay throw, and then he just

492
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Speaker 2: made a couple other really good plays in the outfield

493
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Speaker 2: as well. If that Jeff McNeill's back, this team has

494
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Speaker 2: a chance to even even be more scary, craziest sad I.

495
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Speaker 3: Have about Jeff McNeil. He had the multi homer and

496
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Speaker 3: game on Friday. Jeff McNeil's last multi homer in game

497
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Speaker 3: his major league baseball career came in September of twenty nineteen.

498
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Speaker 3: So long ago. That's a lifetime ago. I can't even

499
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Speaker 3: think about what my life was like in September of

500
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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. Stember twenty nineteen, I justin fields hadn't even

501
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Speaker 3: played a game for Ohio State yet in September twenty nineteen.

502
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Speaker 3: Think about how long ago that is.

503
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just graduated college. That is like pretty much

504
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Speaker 2: when I figured out I could do YouTube full time.

505
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Speaker 2: Like right around that moment, I think I went to

506
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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh for the month of September because I think they

507
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Speaker 2: the Mets played in Pittsburgh. Robinson Cano got hurt during

508
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Speaker 2: that series. I think Jeff even got hurt a little

509
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Speaker 2: bit in that game in Pittsburgh. Edwin Diaz gave me

510
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 2: a ball gave it to a kid that was nice.

511
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Speaker 2: Pat myself on the back. There no Zach Hampell, who's

512
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Speaker 2: getting dragged through the month that I as he should.

513
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I mean McNeil swinging the bat like

514
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Speaker 2: he did is just it really does help this lineup

515
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Speaker 2: out so much. Because Harrison Bader had been struggling, he

516
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Speaker 2: had been a little bit cold the series. Jose Glacias

517
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Speaker 2: is still just out of confest. I mean, he's ridiculous.

518
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Speaker 3: This guy is unbelievable. Cancel him down.

519
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 2: But to add that when there the other guys maybe

520
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 2: aren't clicking like they have been, it just it's what

521
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 2: makes his line up deeper, it makes it full. I

522
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Speaker 2: love seeing Jeff McNeil play every daycause when he is,

523
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Speaker 2: that means he's playing good.

524
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Speaker 3: And there's another big parb about jeffycanneil. A lot of

525
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Speaker 3: people turn on him, and like rightfully so because he

526
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Speaker 3: was one of the worst players in the first half

527
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Speaker 3: and all made professional baseball. We are stuck with him.

528
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Speaker 3: He's not going not going anywhere anywhere, and there's really

529
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Speaker 3: no incentive to get rid of him either. Jeff McNeil's

530
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Speaker 3: contract extension hasn't even started yet. It starts this offseason.

531
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Speaker 3: This would have been his last year on the team

532
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Speaker 3: if Hen's signed, extentially have twenty twenty two, so it'd

533
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Speaker 3: be like, all right, seelor Jeff, you want to take

534
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 3: a million? You could him and Peed Alonso were hitting

535
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Speaker 3: free agency the same year. Be terrible, No oh no,

536
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 3: oh my god, someone stop and stop the badness. But

537
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Speaker 3: it's just that that it's whatever it is. We're stuck

538
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Speaker 3: with him. It probably makes too much money for what

539
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 3: he is this point in his career, but there might

540
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Speaker 3: still be a player that's slightly above league average with

541
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Speaker 3: the bat, whole play a couple defensive positions pretty well.

542
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Speaker 3: Like it's just again, preach positivity and now he's hitting well.

543
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Speaker 3: It would be great if Jeff McNeil could just be

544
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Speaker 3: old Jeff McNeal for a month and keep carrying this

545
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 3: team when guys who have been hot understandably become cold.

546
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Speaker 2: Especially because he's great in the outfield, and as we know,

547
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Speaker 2: as soon as Starling more Tey stepped off this field,

548
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Speaker 2: the Mets got elite defensively.

549
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Speaker 3: Dude, I was thinking about that today because I had

550
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Speaker 3: a tweet from from June twelfth, which is ten days

551
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Speaker 3: before Marte got injured about how bad the Mets were

552
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Speaker 3: in baseball, and they were one of the worst teams

553
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Speaker 3: out of my average defensive run saved, fielding, run value, fangraft,

554
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 3: defensive rating, literally everything. And since all that happened, the

555
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 3: Mets are a positive team and almost every single one

556
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Speaker 3: of those metrics. It's also since Darling Marte got that's

557
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: something that and there's also that also decides with the

558
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 3: Glacier's playing a lot more. He's really good defensive player,

559
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 3: Like that's part of it as well, but that's definitely

560
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 3: not an accident, Like Darling Marte is like one of

561
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Speaker 3: the worst defensive players in baseball this year by every

562
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Speaker 3: single metric. And the fact that they have been a

563
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 3: positive value defensive team afterwards something they were built to

564
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Speaker 3: be and supposed to be at the trademark of David

565
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Speaker 3: Sterns teams. And Keith was talking about it a lot

566
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Speaker 3: on Monday, and he was like, you can really feel

567
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Speaker 3: how much better this team is defensively. He says after

568
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Speaker 3: Harrison Beata diving catch, he was great catch, by the way, amazing.

569
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Speaker 3: He plays such a fucking silty, smooth center field. I

570
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 3: love that guy. But he's like this is the best

571
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Speaker 3: defense Mets, best defensive team I remember in a while.

572
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 3: I completely agree with him. It is we're going on.

573
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Speaker 3: This is a full month now, so it's basically yeah,

574
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Speaker 3: more or less, Betty, I don't even think that team

575
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Speaker 3: was great defensively.

576
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess we didn't really have like

577
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Speaker 2: a third basement. Eduardo esquar was playing over there.

578
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Speaker 3: But yeah, and Nimo, who's the new Neimo's acceptable center fielder.

579
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Speaker 3: But Harrison Bator puts into shame, and like yeah, of course, yeah, yeah,

580
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Speaker 3: And when we run out the outfield of Nemo Bather

581
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Speaker 3: and either Tyrone Taylor Jeffics, this death suddenly becomes one

582
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,479
Speaker 3: of the better defensive outfields just in baseball. And truthfully speaking,

583
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Speaker 3: and this again since part we're going on a little

584
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 3: bit over a month now, the team is positive all around. Defensively,

585
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 3: We've got a lot, we got some different players in here,

586
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 3: one player not playing that's been a really big deal

587
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 3: for helping his teams to stay in the hot streak.

588
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: And now just be now, just be good without any

589
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 3: of the game, makes any of the bullshit. Just be

590
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 3: a solid team, definitely. Now.

591
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Speaker 2: One thing I do want to talk about that a

592
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 2: little bit of a cause for concern, as much concern

593
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Speaker 2: as you can have. Ten starts into someone's major league career,

594
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 2: we got to talk about Christian Scott. Uh, it's not

595
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 2: as good as advertised, which I don't think is the

596
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Speaker 2: end of the world. I don't think this is the

597
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: ring the alarms. We've been bamboozled, We've been led astray.

598
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: But Christian Scott is not that guy we need him

599
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Speaker 2: to be yet Yet. I think it's a big yet

600
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Speaker 2: because we've now seen I think it is nine major

601
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Speaker 2: league starts from Christian Scott.

602
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Speaker 3: Maybe that was his tenth.

603
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure his numbers are completely fine, They're they're

604
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Speaker 2: very mid. He hasn't really taken a step up from

605
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: what we've seen. And Grantcy did come out hot. He

606
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: pitched incredible against the Rays, pitched incredible against the Braves

607
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: in those first couple of starts, but since then it

608
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 2: has been a little bit shaky. And the thing that

609
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 2: scares me the most with Christian Scott is the fact

610
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 2: that the v low and just the sharpness of everything

611
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 2: doesn't really seem to be there. And for a guy

612
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: who we said the biggest concern with what we thought

613
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: was going to be was the fact that he threw

614
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 2: too many strikes, but he had this stuff, maybe that

615
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: that would allow it to work. Now with the stuff

616
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: taking a little bit of a step back, those too

617
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: many strikes things do become a huge problem.

618
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Speaker 3: I'll push back on the stuff thing because all the

619
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Speaker 3: stuff models still say it's all basically the same for Scott.

620
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 3: There isn't that much of a change thing. Yeah, and

621
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Speaker 3: that it is a little to go for that, but

622
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Speaker 3: I still think it's I've had this hypothesis for a

623
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Speaker 3: few weeks now. I've been telling you, and I've been

624
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Speaker 3: telling you guys listening for the whole time that I

625
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: think that he is taking something off purely for the

626
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Speaker 3: reason because he wants to be able to place the

627
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Speaker 3: ball better, especially against leftiest. Because the real problem Chrisian Scott,

628
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Speaker 3: when it comes down to it. Tweet about it today.

629
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: We talked about a lot. He cannot get less headed

630
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: about his out. He can't do it. I dropped the

631
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 3: tweet today that the stats are alarming. So lefties are

632
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 3: slashing three thirty three, three seventy five, five sixty seven

633
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 3: against him, while Riley's are slashing one sixty seven two

634
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: thirty two, three hundred. So those differences right there and

635
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 3: those ops's that's like the difference between facing Bobby with

636
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 3: Junior Andrew ban Tendy. So it's like every single lefty

637
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 3: that comes to the plate is Bobby with Junior against

638
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: Christian Scott, and every righty is Andrew Bantendy. That's how

639
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 3: big the chasm is right now of how effective he

640
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 3: is against the hitters from each side of the plate.

641
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Speaker 3: And the big reason for this, and it's horrible that

642
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: happened and lost the meta game, but it was so

643
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 3: clear in the jazzism of bat is because Scott just

644
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 3: doesn't he doesn't have enough weapons right now that he

645
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 3: can rely on to get lefties out, and that it's

646
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 3: it's something that can change and it can't get better,

647
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 3: and something we thought was gonna be okay coming in,

648
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: but it's been really Rare's ugly head and not that bad.

649
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 3: I think it was specifically really good to illustrate this

650
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: because this was Jazz's second or third of that bat

651
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: of the game, I can't remember exactly, but it was

652
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 3: a long at bat. He he ran the count full jazz,

653
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 3: and Jazz is a good hit that people do not

654
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: respect Jazz Chism the way they should. He is a

655
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 3: very good baseball.

656
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: Player, Yeah, I think baseball people do. I think the

657
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 2: public doesn't, because the public sees like him as being

658
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: flashy and like probably like loud and arrogant and whatever

659
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: it is when he's not like one of the best

660
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: players in baseball. But I think the baseball knowers know

661
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 2: that he's a good ball player for sure.

662
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 3: And also just I just got a quick stat in

663
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: the Veloci thing. So that first started against the Race,

664
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 3: the vlosi was crazy, which I'm sure was just adrenaline

665
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: with your start over ninety five. Every other star since

666
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 3: then it's been between ninety four three and ninety three six.

667
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: So the fastball Voss, he's basically exactly the same the

668
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: whole way through. But that back against Jazz, it was

669
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 3: clear that Christian Scott was kind of just working one

670
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 3: method the whole time. It was his up and in

671
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 3: fastball and his lowan and gyro slyther, and it was

672
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 3: over and over again. He was mixing matching, mixing match

673
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: and going back. And he missed with a fastball and

674
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: then he missed with a slyder and Jazz fouled off

675
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: a slyder and he missed with another fastball. I think

676
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 3: I got a call struck and fastball in there too. But at

677
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 3: that point when the sixth pitch of the back came,

678
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 3: there had already been three fastball and three sliders and

679
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: two fastballs, and it just seemed like Jazz was just

680
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 3: sitting on that slider and waiting for it. And we

681
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 3: talked about this with Lance bras Dawski. We talked about

682
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: the video he made, especially with pitch the k a hither.

683
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 3: A pitch will no longer be as effective against the

684
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 3: hither once the hitter has a really good idea of

685
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 3: the pitch that's coming, and you get that good idea

686
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: the more pitches you see in this individual at bat.

687
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: So the fact that Jazz, again smart, good baseball player,

688
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 3: was able to triangulate, I'm gonna get this pitch in

689
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 3: this exact spot. He's gonna turn on it because he's

690
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: a good baseball player. And the pitch, that's the other

691
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 3: part about Scott. That pitch wasn't bad, and it wasn't

692
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 3: in a bad spot. It was a slider that was

693
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: about knee high an inch inside. If a hitter didn't

694
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 3: know that was coming that could make them look ugly,

695
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: swing out of their shoes. You get a store on

696
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 3: Pitching Ninja for that. But the fact that he'd already

697
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 3: seen that pitch three times in the bat, he knew

698
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 3: Scott was scared to go fastball with him. You guys

699
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 3: remember the Jazz home run against Jacob de Grom twenty

700
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 3: twenty one of fastball He turned around city field. That

701
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: was one of most impressive things I've ever seen baseball

702
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 3: player doing in real life. Jazz knew that pitch was

703
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: coming and he swung have shoes on it, and he

704
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: hit a home run. He pimped it, and Marlins win

705
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 3: the game because of it. And again sandemic to where

706
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: Scott is right now as a pitcher, and it's not

707
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: something that's gonna damn him for a career. It's just

708
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 3: something that right now he doesn't have a useful third

709
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: weapon against lefties, so they can sit on those two things.

710
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 3: And the fastball command is good but not great, so

711
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: he can't really pinpoint a fastball. So it's just you

712
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 3: have to just wait until you get one of the

713
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 3: sliders you can hit. Sometimes he'll hang on, or sometimes

714
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: you're just like Jazz and you're ready for you know

715
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: what's gonna be and you can said it somewhere. Yeah,

716
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 3: and again, I think all of us need to.

717
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: I've talked to some Mets fans who are like, I'm out,

718
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: I'm out on Christian Scott, who.

719
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: That's not how this works. Guys.

720
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: Again, I'm not even gonna compare him to two guys

721
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: on the New York Mets that have taken some time

722
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: and the pitching side to improve upon their game, because

723
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: that would be insane. But even look at previous David

724
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: Seton's teams, Brandon Woodroff and Corbyn Burns came up and

725
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: those guys were not particularly great their first time. Corbyn

726
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: Burns went to the bullpen for a good chunk because

727
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: they could not figure it out. And one of the reasons, yeah,

728
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: and one of the reasons why Brant Corbyn Burns could

729
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: not get lefties out. He struggled mightily getting lefties out.

730
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: He got that nasty change up, he got the cutter,

731
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: started to work on that stuff. That's where he was

732
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: able to take that jump to the next level. I'm

733
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: not comparing Christian Scott to Corbyn Burns as a future

734
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: Psy Young Award winner type thing. But the idea is

735
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: that this growth is not necessarily linear.

736
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: We've talked about this before. Christian Scott flew through the

737
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: minor leagues. He deserved to get to the major league level.

738
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: He had shown that he is good enough at every

739
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: single level to be here. Now it's about pushing through

740
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: whatever this theoretical like glass ceiling that he's running into

741
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: right now is and getting better. And that's where Jeremy

742
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: Heffner and hopefully the pitching Lab can help him out here, because,

743
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: like you said, there is a clear and obvious issue

744
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: he can't get left handed hitters out. If he can

745
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: fix that, that's where you're gonna start to see Christian

746
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: Scott take these steps forward and become that picture that

747
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: me and James been hyping up for the last year

748
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: and a half. But right now, at the young age

749
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: and the young, relatively young career of him as a

750
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: starting pitcher, he just doesn't have that yet. But it

751
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: doesn't mean it won't come. So I beg Mets fans,

752
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: please give this guy some time before you say you're

753
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: done with him. It's been forty fifty innings.

754
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: And the worst part is too that we he saw

755
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: at first it was like, holy shit, Like those two

756
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: first starts raising braves, you felt like, oh, he's hitting

757
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 3: the ground running and he's going. And then it kind

758
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: of got slow after that, and then when he got

759
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: sent down. Since he came back, that's really been with

760
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 3: these problems. Be guess he's not striking as many guys,

761
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: he's walking a few more batteries, and he just always

762
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: seems to get to like a certain point in the

763
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: start and the hitters start to kind of really have

764
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 3: a good idea for what's coming. And again that's because

765
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: he's realistically, right now, just a two pitch pitcher against

766
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: each side of the plate. Yeah, and it works against

767
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: the rities because those two pitches are amazing. Fastball still

768
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: has a lot of life and sweeper is is filthy

769
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 3: and disgusting. I can't even believe that he got through

770
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: the miners as well as he did at the beginning

771
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: before he developed a sweeper. The fact that he didn't

772
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: even have this pitch, that's how that's his testament to

773
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 3: how much life that fastball has in this start or

774
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: Righty didn't even have a hard hit ball against him, Yeah,

775
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: like things well, it was just a few spat smattered

776
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: around singles and that was it. So just it becomes

777
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: whether or not he can figure out this splither split

778
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: change thing. It's just he keeps it keeps just drifting

779
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: outside in him and floating, and it's not really a

780
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: competitive pitch. Maybe he finds a col that moves in

781
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: between the fastball and this driver slider, and the driver

782
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: slider is colorish already. It's a very hard pitch, doesn't

783
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: move very much. But maybe there's something else there. Maybe

784
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: I know he's like, I don't know if he can

785
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: get a curve ball because of how fucking like twisty

786
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: he gets with his arm. I think that's called pronation

787
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: for the real pitching people out there. But I don't

788
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: know if he can actually get a curve off that.

789
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: But if he can find a curve that even a

790
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 3: power curve that maybe only drops like I don't know

791
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 3: a handful of inches, but it still goes up and

792
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: down to get a lefty out, Like there there's ways

793
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: for Christian Scott to get out of this. I'm not

794
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: I'm not a pitch designed guy. I know how to

795
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 3: developed them. But it's just and he has this splitter

796
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: that he has, he says he has, but he just

797
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: can't really get through to an in game yet. So

798
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: there's a way here. It's like and it if it clicks,

799
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: it gets crazy and you know, the worst, the worst

800
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: thing happened to Chrisian Scott this year. You just put

801
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: him in the bullpen. He's probably electric, correct like, and

802
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 3: you need to limit his innings anyway, And the team

803
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: would love imagine if you have a reliever who gets

804
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: every righty out. Oh my god, what'd be the worst

805
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: thing in the world? Who could throw ninety six with

806
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: devastating sweeper that to be horrible.

807
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: Well, this was the thing that we talked about in

808
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: the last episode where we're like where we're building out

809
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: just like what the future of this current roster could

810
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: look like, and like metsging bullpen arms and I think

811
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: I was like, brain blast, it's probably gonna be Christian Scott,

812
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: Like he's probably just gonna be in the bullpen and

813
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: be really good, and then we worry about him being

814
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: a starter next year, Like that's probably the realistic outcome.

815
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: That being said, it does change what this team is

816
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: going to probably be looking to do with the deadline.

817
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: Knowing that Christians is probably not gonna be one of

818
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: those guys that you can rely on to be a

819
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: big game starter down the stretch totally.

820
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: Or again maybe just close back. And he is like,

821
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: I think the game Maybe he does. I think they're

822
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: going to keep giving in these chances to start. I

823
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: think you also have an opportunity with someone like Budoh

824
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: and Howser and the bullpen right now to be like, hey, Christian, like,

825
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: let's shorten this game. Let's shorten the game for you

826
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: a little bit, Like we know you're not gonna gives

827
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: one hundred pitches anyway, So instead of being seventy five, like,

828
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: let's just we're gonna save your arm for a few weeks,

829
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: we want, really you to focus on these few at bads.

830
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 3: We know it gets worse and worse you go through

831
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: the game fifty five pitches, tell him that make this

832
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: the game plan for innings, Jose boos your piggybacker, and

833
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: then we can go we can go through this and

834
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: you can try to work through these issues because you're

835
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: gonna have to start this weekend against the Braves and

836
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a monumentally important game. There is a

837
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: series where if you went three out of four, you

838
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: you changed the course of the season. Truthfully, yes, So

839
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 3: it's it's a it's a tight rope and I trust Mendoza,

840
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: I trust Stearns, I trust the coach does the staff

841
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: this year to do this, to be able to walk

842
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: this line with Christian Scott and be like, we want

843
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: you to still be effective for us and we need

844
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: to get what we need to get out of you

845
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: now while also not forgetting about the player where we

846
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: want you to be in the future.

847
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

848
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: No, I mean it's it's it's gonna be interesting down

849
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: the line, at least in terms of starting pitching. Severino

850
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: looked fantastic when he throws that sweeper. He's just such

851
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: a better pitcher, so like, just fucking throw it, please.

852
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. I went deep in these crazy stats and I

853
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 3: was texting you on Saturday. I went to all these

854
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: by hands I want to get out before the game

855
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 3: ended before Fangrass updated the next day. But Severing this

856
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: year has thrown ten stars where he's throwing more than

857
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: ten percent sweepers, and nine stars to restrow fewer than

858
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 3: ten percent sweepers. The ten stars when he started the

859
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 3: sweeper at least ten percent of the time two point

860
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: nine to eighty RA twenty one percent strike every eleven

861
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: percent walk grade. The nineery threw less than ten percent

862
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: of the time four point two three e RA fifteen

863
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: percent strike every five percent walk grade. So similar strikeouts

864
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: and walks, but just with fewer balls and play the

865
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 3: other team gets fewer runs. So that's definitely a strategy

866
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: that everyone should keep pushing forward with.

867
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: Also, shout out to David Peterson. Just another solid start, Like,

868
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: just another solid start. This is exactly what he is.

869
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 2: The Mets, I believe, have won eight straight of his starts.

870
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 3: He lost.

871
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: They lost in the first start of the year against

872
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: the Dodgers, and they have not lost a start of

873
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: his since. So while he infuriates people, I know he

874
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: particularly infuriates my dad. He texts me twice a start

875
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: that this guy's a bum. Get rid of him, but

876
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: the Mets win when he pitches, So like, I don't

877
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: know what to tell you, Dad, Like, he's probably just

878
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 2: a major league pitcher in the back end of our rotation.

879
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, that's what he is. Before strike guts and

880
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 3: four walks. It's something you definitely don't ever love to see.

881
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 3: But he's Peterson's done well to really expand his repertoire

882
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 3: against especially right because again the apps of hand this

883
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: makes it hard. He's just like, fucking I'll throw I'll

884
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: throw you a fucking singer. I'll throw you a fastball.

885
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 3: He wants to a change up, like here you go.

886
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: You're just gonna see a lot of different looks. So

887
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 3: it's like a little hard to settle in. Marlins also

888
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 3: suck again, They're horrible, but it's just he he throws

889
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: it at you. And then and I also pitched he'd

890
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: had probably his wor start almost the entire season. Yeah,

891
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: I think it was a lot of digs and doings.

892
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: Besides for Jake Berger, a lot of balls just squeaked

893
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: through the fucking hole. So I thought they were just

894
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 3: taking the latest swings I've ever seen the like they

895
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: they were like it almost seemed like the trying to

896
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 3: be late. Yeah, I mean that that too. Seemer is weird.

897
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: It's a really good pitch, but he just he just

898
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: keeps the ball on the edge of so nothing really

899
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 3: gets hit super hard. But again, Jake Burger did piss

900
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 3: on that home run, uh first time, and I allowed

901
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 3: went three run since June naithh.

902
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: Wow, I mean listen, pictures are gonna have bad starts.

903
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: I can't get on him when he's been pretty fucking

904
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: good all year.

905
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: No worries at all of that. But I think that's

906
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 3: basically the whole series. I mean, O the other funny

907
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: things that happened to Keith got so mad about where

908
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: jazz was warming up in the on deck circle. I've

909
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: also I agrew Keith. I had never seen someone warm

910
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 3: up that close to behind the plate. Also, I got

911
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 3: I gotta interject. I love how you you really pronounced

912
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: the jazz chis home every time.

913
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: Chism.

914
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: I just I guess, I just I write it more

915
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: than I say it so home that I do that.

916
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 3: My brain's not forget how it's about. It's just this

917
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: a little bit of my my stupidity. But I love that.

918
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 3: And Keith was like insinuating he would he would throw

919
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: at him and he came to the plate. Oh yeah, totally,

920
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 3: which is awesome.

921
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: Keith.

922
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: Keith was a little annoying the series. There were times

923
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 3: she was driving me crazy.

924
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: He was really loving the umpires like a lot, which

925
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 2: I just I can't stand that shit.

926
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: I mean, think about from Keith's perspective, he just had

927
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: like a week off. Yeah, I know, but that wasn't work.

928
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: Again.

929
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: The game against Manaia too, he was like, the Marlins

930
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: were taking bad swings. They just were getting hits because

931
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: like they were hitting it where they're where they ain't.

932
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 3: And he just impressed.

933
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: He was like, wow, man, these level swings, that's what

934
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: it is, folks. You don't got to hit the ball

935
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 2: in the air. Sometimes I'm like, this is the worst

936
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: team in baseball. You cannot be complimenting them.

937
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 3: Keith please, Him and Gary were shitting on like the

938
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: concept of egs of velocity in that game too, and

939
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 3: then he was like, you see, sometimes you really just

940
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 3: gotta find the hole with it. And it's like, Keith's

941
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 3: with you doing manmst.

942
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 2: Like, if they were in first place by twenty games,

943
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: I'd let you say all you want because you have

944
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: the proof they sucked.

945
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: This seems so horrible.

946
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: I think he just wishes he was watching Luisa Ryes

947
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: and he's used to watching. Also, that game on Friday

948
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: night was so and Ryan, we had so many chances

949
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: to win that game. Viento's Iglesius McNeil all had three

950
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 3: hard up balls the bomb in the order the Marlins

951
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: just the freaking both that sucks. We couldn't do a

952
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: cava fache Tanners Scott's tas Scott's incredible.

953
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: Dude.

954
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: Did he change the way he pitches because I thought

955
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 3: he was more side arm ish he did coming into

956
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: the year. He was a tread guy in the off season.

957
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: Because he looks like he's now lower pro, a low

958
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 2: low proch angle. And that fastball's got crazy life now

959
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: where I thought before it more so ran at least

960
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 2: in that appear in that game on Friday. That fastball

961
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: was electric more than I remember it in the past

962
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 2: because he's been pretty erratic.

963
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: His fastball has always been more more vert than a

964
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 3: horizontal movement. But this year it's more than he ever

965
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 3: has by okay, orange noticeable that he got something there

966
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: and it's moving horizontals. But he's he's electric. Somebody's going

967
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: in the game, someone's getting. With the trade deadline, he's

968
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 3: gonna be a difference maker.

969
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: All I know is keep an eye with what prospect

970
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: the Marlins get because they will ruin him.

971
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're gonna do tradeline in a minute, just

972
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: two other quickly, I want to talk about four y

973
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: trade deadline preview in the Subway series preview first Hall

974
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: of Fame inductions this weekend. Always nice to see the

975
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame guy shout out Adrian Beltray, Jim Leland,

976
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 3: Joe Mauer, Todd Hilton, they massacred Joe Mowers, plaque ye

977
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 3: crush he looks. And also I just love bel Tray.

978
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: Belchra is one of my favorite players growing up. And

979
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: like he I don't think he gets the credit for

980
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 3: how good he was, Like he's truthfully, he's one of

981
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 3: the best Dominican bourn baseball players ever. Like top five,

982
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: top five easy, if not top three because poolhole says

983
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 3: Pedro and then you know Vladmanny Mareschal like in in

984
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: any order there with David Artiz just behind them. Like

985
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 3: those are some fucking ball players that that Beltray is

986
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: on top of. And I was looking at this Beltray

987
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: stuff I want. I was just I was looking just

988
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 3: the Dominican BASEBA player stats, which is crazy, and found

989
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: one this nuts. Of the five Dominican born baseball players

990
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: the most stolen bases in the history of baseball, four

991
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: have been Mets, Jose Reyes, Want Samuell Crazy. Luis Castillo

992
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: didn't talk about Luis Castillo in a Met Marlin's podcast

993
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: You're Wrong and Starling Marte. Yeah, and then says our

994
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: Daniel most of all based effort to make him more player, sho,

995
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: I would czar. That's a name that doesn't even sound

996
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 3: familiar to me. That's crazy.

997
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, a pretty solid class for sure in

998
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame and Jim Leland baseball lifer.

999
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: Like to see an old guy like that get in there.

1000
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 3: He deserves it. I would have loved to see him

1001
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: smoke a cigarette during his speech. Oh well, he's a

1002
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 3: cigar man. I don't know if he's a cigarette man.

1003
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 2: He's famous for smoking cigarettes in the Dugout, it's true

1004
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: in the Dugout. But he's a cigar man now, I'm

1005
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: sure with the older age in the class, cigarettes on

1006
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: the field, cigars at home, Yeah, exactly, cigars. Cigars are classy.

1007
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: Cigarettes are for the ball players. And then just some

1008
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: sad news talk about here a friend of the podcast,

1009
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 2: ormarm and I his wife tragically passed away. So just

1010
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 2: thaw some prayers with the Mania family. That's absolutely terrible

1011
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: and I can't even imagine what that's like. Absolutely just awful,

1012
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: awful stuff.

1013
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 3: No, we know, yeah, we know more. A few times

1014
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: he was a he's a just a really really fantastic guy.

1015
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: But wife, Rachel, that's a that's horrible. It's terrible, Hope,

1016
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 3: just Poe Bomar's okay, yep, and uh yeah. We will

1017
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: now move on to the trade deadline preview. Here you got, guys,

1018
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: get a long fucking episode. Such episode.

1019
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: This is gonna be like.

1020
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: A clean hour and a half because we've got probably

1021
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty minutes left on this trade deadline stuff

1022
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: to talk about with.

1023
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 3: You guys, And you know what, don't really care. It's

1024
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 3: good you guys want to talk baseball. We've missed you.

1025
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: We haven't been able to talk about the Mets for like,

1026
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: for real, like Mets baseball in a week, So happy

1027
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: to do that rather than talk about the home run

1028
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: derby and nonsense like that. So trade deadline we're dressing it.

1029
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: We are a week away from the trade deadline, basically

1030
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: a week away. I think we're gonna a week away

1031
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 2: when you listen. Yeah, a week away when you listen.

1032
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: And we haven't really done a good job of this

1033
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: because we're not like every other podcast. We knew that

1034
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: nothing was gonna happen until this point, so it's just

1035
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: an exercise and just how much do you want to

1036
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: hear yourself talk? But now that we're a week away,

1037
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: shit can happen. Shit will start to happen. People are

1038
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: gonna be moving, and we're gonna be dropping a full

1039
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: dedicated episode about the guys we want the most later

1040
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: on our YouTube channel. But we don't want to deprive

1041
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: you guys over here on the podcast of that content

1042
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: as well, So let's just go through it. There are

1043
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: a ton of players of so many and there are

1044
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: a ton of players that the Mets could use. That

1045
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: being said, not all of them are fits, not all

1046
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: of them are realistic, but there's a lot of good stuff.

1047
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: Where do you want to start, James, I think we

1048
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: should first start this with where we think the Mets

1049
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 3: should and could go to make this team as good

1050
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: as it can for a playoff push, because I think

1051
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: that's a pretty I think it's an interesting conversation. I

1052
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 3: think if you ask ninety nine percent of Mets fans

1053
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 3: seventy five percent Mets fans, I just left a big

1054
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: range there. But if you ask most Mets fans, what's

1055
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: the Mets and you to do with the trade deadline,

1056
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: it'd be bullpen, bullpen, bullpen, bullpen. I think you and

1057
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 3: I I mean more so me. I think that I

1058
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: just I love to be a little contrarian with this shit,

1059
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: like I love, I love the fact of like there

1060
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: is just there's so much more. There's so many more

1061
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: creative ways I think to improve this team, especially when

1062
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: you think about the types of players available in the

1063
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: death on the block right now and where the Mets

1064
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: need their help because the relievers available just aren't good.

1065
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: Ones that are ones that are game changers. I don't

1066
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 3: see the Mets going after are gonna be too expensive.

1067
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 3: It's canna be just a lot to handle. Yeah, Tanner,

1068
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: Scott Mason Miller, Pete Fairbanks, Michael Kopek. Those are I

1069
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: would say, the four most talented relievers on the board.

1070
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: Yep.

1071
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 3: I can't see the Mets putting pointing up the prospect

1072
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 3: for any of them. No, and I especially Copek, that

1073
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: would be a nightmare here. You just can't get he

1074
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: just balked again. I think he balked in a losing

1075
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 3: run there. Yeah, I mean, Mets fans will put his

1076
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 3: head on a stake. That's the last thing that I needs.

1077
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: But okay, so then let's let's preface it this way,

1078
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 2: starting starting pitching relief that rank those three?

1079
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 3: What what is your if you're the GM, what are

1080
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 3: you doing? What are you attacking? First? I the first

1081
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: thing I'd want for this team, really stupidly, weirdly enough,

1082
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: is a bat, because I think you get the I

1083
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 3: think you get the cheapest and best bat because I

1084
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 3: think this Mets team to jump the market. You have

1085
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: a gaping home corner of affield right now. It's a catastrophe.

1086
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 3: Every single day the Mets have one corner of outfield

1087
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: they're playing that stinks. Like, right now, you're giving up

1088
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: one of the nine spots in your order, just for

1089
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: for free. It's some one who's not gonna be a

1090
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: very good defender and not be a very good hitter.

1091
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 3: I know everyone wants dotging Marte to come back, and

1092
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: I think he will come back. But it's been a

1093
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: month and he hasn't even no baseball activities yet you're

1094
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: still from the second he picks up a bat, you're

1095
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: still at least three weeks away from him from playing.

1096
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: So as of right now, you're not gonna see starring

1097
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: Marte play in a baseball game, best case scenario, until

1098
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 3: August fifteen. Best case scenario, there's a lot of time

1099
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: till Augus fifteens. We got to play some fucking ball.

1100
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 3: By then we have to win every single game. So

1101
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: I just I see this like this really nice outfielder

1102
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: tier of like Winker, Taylor Ward, Brian de la Cruz,

1103
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: Lane Thomas as a real good place for the Mets

1104
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 3: to dip their toe into buy a bat for not

1105
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 3: that good of a prospect. I'm sure I bet you

1106
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 3: can get any of those guys are just named for

1107
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: one of these double A pitchers who's kind of popped

1108
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 3: up out of nowhere. Except Brian dey la Cruz. He

1109
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 3: is under control until twenty twenty eight, so you will

1110
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: hear he really, I thought he had one more year. No,

1111
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: you're giving up eight. Kill that for Brian day la Cruz.

1112
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: Don't want him anymore. Okay, she's gonna take him off

1113
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: my list, take him off my list. I don't even care.

1114
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: I want rentals right now. I want rentals maybe because I, oh,

1115
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: you know what that happens next year, We're gonna buy

1116
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: it diff corner outfielders. I don't care these guys are free. Jesse. Wait,

1117
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 3: you can get Jesse Winker for like Tyler Stewart. Truthfully,

1118
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 3: that might have made an overpay that probably honestly could

1119
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 3: be an overpay. It probably has an overpay. So I'm

1120
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: saying you're probably getting a picture in your system who

1121
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 3: you don't even think is a Major League three for

1122
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: someone who's gonna be like a twenty percent Betty League

1123
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: average Heather for the rest of the season, when right

1124
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: now from that spot, you're getting like twenty percent worse

1125
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: in league average.

1126
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: Which let me tell you, guys, by the way, there

1127
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: are gonna be a lot of people specifically on S

1128
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: and Y. They're gonna be putting out trade proposals here.

1129
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: I believe what was it our buddy Jim Duquette throughout

1130
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: one where he was it was like the most insane

1131
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: for Tanner Scott. He was like, the Mets should give

1132
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: up Jeremy Mark Rodriguez, Marco Vargus and yeah throw throwing

1133
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: another one of their top prospects. Tom Hammill, Sure give

1134
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: those three guys up for Tanner Scott. And it's like,

1135
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 2: what pump the brakes, buddy, Pump the brakes. Listen to

1136
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: the guys who were who are currently in jobs, not

1137
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: Jim Dukett, who has made some of the worst trades

1138
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 2: in Mess history.

1139
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: So regardless, Also, it comes from those those types of

1140
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 3: that type of content comes from a place of they

1141
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 3: want people to watch, to listen, to interact. So it's

1142
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: not an accident that the players you see them putting

1143
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 3: these mock trade proposals are the same ones that were

1144
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 3: famous last year because the Mets traded for them. These

1145
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 3: are the names that will resonate with fans, and they'll

1146
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: resonate with viewers. I'll resonate with production. They resonate with

1147
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: the fucking person the graphics department is making that exactly.

1148
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: You're not gonna hear them say, yeah, Jacob Brimer, they should,

1149
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: they should move that young nineteen year old third basement

1150
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: in Saint Lucy.

1151
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: Like you're not gonna hear that. No, but that's again,

1152
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 3: but that's part of this game. Like that's why again,

1153
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 3: last year, when the Mets make these trades to get

1154
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: these prospects, no one knows who the hell they are. No,

1155
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 3: they don't, So then then now you know them because

1156
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: they made the trades. So the people who actually work

1157
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: in the front offices. It's so sick how much knowledge

1158
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: they have on their own teams, their own systems, and

1159
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 3: then to be able to stretch out and use scouts

1160
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: and use the day and use information to find a

1161
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 3: seventeen year old and another organization when they have fifty

1162
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: of them to try and pick that's the one I want.

1163
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 3: It's just it's interesting, but that is again, that's a

1164
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: big reason why I think the first thing I would

1165
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: do is shopped for that bat. And again I even

1166
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: said that to be nice, because I would love for

1167
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 3: them to shoot for the fucking moon. I don't know, Like,

1168
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 3: see what the fucks went on Randy Roseorina was going

1169
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 3: on with JAZZI is. I think Jazz is the best

1170
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: fit on this whole market for the Mets because he

1171
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: could do something that no one else can which to

1172
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: play in field. Then outfield. Yes, he can play a

1173
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: good corner raft, he could play an acceptable center field.

1174
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: He can play a good second base. He's a lefty

1175
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: hither he literally checks every single box that the Mets

1176
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: needs for position player. I think I like Jazz more

1177
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: than the average person. I like the flair, I like

1178
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: the energy, I like the excitement. I think he'd be

1179
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: an incredible fit in this locker room. I think he'd

1180
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: be incredible fit in this lineup and in the five spot.

1181
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: I think that there's so many things that could go

1182
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: well with Jazz and seam. The only thing that wouldn't

1183
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 3: really go well for him is health and that that's

1184
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: just something that's gonna be risk for everybody.

1185
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's it would be nice for him to

1186
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: actually probably get around a leader that he respects for

1187
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 2: once in his career, Franstance Olendor. I think being that guy,

1188
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: considering he had no respect for Miguel Rohaus.

1189
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 3: Because he's like, I'm better than you.

1190
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: What the fuck?

1191
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: I don't want to listen to you, Miguel rohause you

1192
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: got cut by the Marlins. Also, this is just this

1193
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: is the crazy thing about Jazz too, because again I

1194
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: think a lot of people shit on him for his career,

1195
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 3: he never has played the full season because he always

1196
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 3: gets injured. That sucks. We hate that his one hundred

1197
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 3: and sixty two game averages is a thirty thirty player

1198
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: with a two fifty average. That's gross, That's what I'm saying, Like,

1199
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: that's like, that's not a joke at all, Like he

1200
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: doesn't draw him enough walks probably then you should. Sometimes

1201
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 3: it takes too many. He kind of falls in between

1202
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: those two things sometimes. But this is a really fucking

1203
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 3: good baseball player who's available right now. Jazz would come

1204
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 3: into this lineup and hit like fifth or sixth like

1205
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: that'd be sick, that'd be awesome. And again he's he's

1206
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 3: arbitration eligible next year as well, So you have him

1207
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 3: on the team twenty twenty five and a year where

1208
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 3: we don't, We're second base is unsettled and corner raffields unsettled.

1209
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 3: I think I think that he as a baseball player

1210
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 3: is a perfect fit and he's the kind of lightning

1211
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: rod that you get the trade deadline and it could

1212
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: change everything.

1213
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's talk about this Jazz Chisholm trade then

1214
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: a little bit more because he he's gonna be moved.

1215
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: So you you're going to happy to give a lot

1216
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: because there are gonna be a lot of teams that

1217
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 2: want him. So what are you what are you giving up?

1218
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 2: What's the most you're giving up for a guy like

1219
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: Jazz Chishm. Because the Marlins farm system is dog shit,

1220
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: It is horrendously bad. One thing they do have is

1221
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: they do have young pitching. They lack bats, though, so

1222
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: they're gonna be calling for the big for the big

1223
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: name bats and the Mets org.

1224
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 3: I don't think they're calling for those bats. I'm be honest,

1225
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think. I don't think that this

1226
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 3: version of Jazz with one year of control gets you

1227
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 3: the first tier of Mets prospects. And I say the

1228
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 3: first year of Mets prospects. I'm talking specifically Jet Gilbert

1229
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: Clifford in twenty twenty seven by the way, Yeah, so

1230
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 3: he has he's under control and oh years, two more years,

1231
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 3: so twenty yes, he has twenty twenty six. Yeah. So

1232
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 3: that's why I'm like, dude, you got Are you positive?

1233
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: Are you positive on that? One hundred percent? Sure, one

1234
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 3: hundred percent. I'm looking at it right now. That changes

1235
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: it a little bit, That's what I'm saying. I don't know.

1236
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 3: So you're are you giving up? Are you giving up

1237
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: one of those guys they're probably? I don't.

1238
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 2: I don't think you give up. I mean, do you

1239
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: give is Drew Gilbert? Is he available? Here's what I'm

1240
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 2: gonna say. Here's what I'm gonna say, Jazz is twenty

1241
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: six been pretty good at the major league level already.

1242
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 2: Drew Gilbert twenty three hasn't played at the major league

1243
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: level yet. Like, you probably make that trade, right.

1244
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 3: I guess you probably do, especially I get the infield

1245
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 3: part of it. I think he's a hard one. I'm

1246
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 3: gonna say something, Do you move Jet? Jet is the

1247
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 3: guy who's gonna bring up more because I think he's

1248
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 3: someone that isn't helping this team for two more years. Yes,

1249
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: with the one that that kind of fucked us totally again,

1250
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 3: I was gonna bring up Jet much more in terms

1251
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: of some of the guys like Robert or I was

1252
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 3: even gonna drop like slight mentions on schoobl and Crochetes

1253
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: because they are available, and I think for either of

1254
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 3: those pictures, you have to trade both of these guys

1255
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: to put a competitive Yeah. Probably at least you probably

1256
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 3: give up the entire farm system. Again for those guys,

1257
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: especially Schooble, it makes more sense because he might be

1258
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 3: the best picture in baseball. Brain blast, What if you

1259
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: just turned Justin Verlander into Derek Schooble.

1260
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Gilbert and Clifford to get Schooble

1261
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh my god, we just went Justin

1262
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: Verlander and Derek Scooble.

1263
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: You probably also trade Jet though, and you probably also.

1264
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: Think you have to trade all three of those guys.

1265
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: Terror School's best best picture now, I know, I know,

1266
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 2: but like those two, I was thinking like those two

1267
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 2: and maybe like a pitching prospect type thing.

1268
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like like s Broke, like a good one, yeah,

1269
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 3: really good. Yeah, like Schoopball. Scoop Ball also is not

1270
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 3: for agents to twenty seven. Okay, so he's he's no,

1271
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 3: he's incredible. It's like, this is why I love the

1272
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 3: trade deadline. It's so fucked up. Tiger's tweaters having conniption

1273
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: right now because people are doing mock trades for school

1274
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 3: ball and it's just like some good prospects. I saw

1275
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: one guy.

1276
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: It went Virals.

1277
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 3: People are like, all right, relaxed. They were like, I'm

1278
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 3: only taking school trade if it's this, and he listed

1279
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 3: every single basically prospect New Orioles organization. He was like

1280
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 3: Jackson Holliday, Samley Bassillo, Kobe Mayo and and I think

1281
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: it was called In Cowser and one of their pictures.

1282
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 3: He was like this, I think I would do you think, yeah, okay,

1283
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: the guy who said two years, who just missed two

1284
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 3: years almost a baseball with arm trouble and now come back,

1285
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 3: Oh my guy, he's are five miles how hard? This

1286
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: could last forever?

1287
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 2: But like rounding it back up with this conversation of trade,

1288
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 2: of the trade deadline and these bigger guys that they're

1289
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 2: needle movers.

1290
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 3: They changed this outlook.

1291
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: For this team, not a yes today, not tomorrow, tomorrow,

1292
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: for the next two three years. This changes the outlook

1293
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 2: of the New York Mets.

1294
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 3: And I weirdly think that there's a shot and I

1295
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: think David Searns could be convinced for the right player

1296
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 3: to get rid of the guys that they just got

1297
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 3: in basically at the top of their organization, to go

1298
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 3: ahead and flip them into really, really good major league

1299
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 3: players right now that are also this is also the

1300
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,959
Speaker 3: huge important part about these guys that the Mets would

1301
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 3: be trading for. They are free, they are cheap, They

1302
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: cost nothing financially besides the prospect package. So I mean,

1303
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 3: how do you.

1304
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: Not do it?

1305
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: This is again, this is why I'm saying It's like,

1306
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: this is why I think that there's a compelling argument

1307
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 3: to be had here at this trade deadline for David Stearns,

1308
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 3: because we're in a spir right now. They think it's

1309
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: better than we're most Mets fans not even where we

1310
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 3: thought would be in May. I think even where a

1311
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 3: lot of us thought we'd be in March. Yeah, like

1312
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 3: the fact that right now we're at three games behind

1313
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 3: the first wildcard. Right now, this is a team that

1314
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 3: is in the fucking mix, Like, we can make a

1315
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 3: move here, we could play We're not winning the NL East,

1316
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 3: but we can be comfortable in the wildcard. Can we

1317
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: can go play some playoff baseball? Like I think that

1318
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 3: that should always be the goal. And we're we're starting this,

1319
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 3: like with the Wi Fi, we're talking about these big

1320
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 3: superstars's we have trade to get them, and again probably

1321
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 3: Jazz Robert, especially the pitchers. You probably do have to

1322
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 3: trade one of the three best prospects in your system,

1323
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 3: probably and probably I think one. I think, I think again,

1324
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 3: I think a very sensible trade for Jazz you could

1325
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: get away with like Jet and again like I'm this

1326
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 3: say the name again, but like Tyler Stewart, like a

1327
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 3: guy who's like a probable major league filler debt pitcher

1328
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 3: and an offensive player with tons of upset.

1329
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 2: The only thing that scares me away from thinking that's

1330
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: the hall for the Marlins back is there's seventeen other

1331
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 2: teams that probably want these guys to and I think

1332
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 2: you're just gonna get out bit at that point. But

1333
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: then you you just you play at your flag, you

1334
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 2: say that's what we're doing.

1335
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: There was a report, I think it was from Fine

1336
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: Sand that the Jazz price wasn't as much as expected.

1337
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: Pirates were the first team in on it. That might

1338
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 3: just be the Models being like pushed up the price,

1339
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 3: push up, push up the price. But I think that

1340
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 3: he says he also specificly, Yeah, I'd bet he says specifically,

1341
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 3: the Robt price signically high in the Jazz That that checks.

1342
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: I mean, as a Louis Robert has a chance to

1343
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: be like an MVP player tomorrow.

1344
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 3: That is what I'm saying. Again, I think that there's

1345
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 3: a big perception around Jazz system that maybe some people

1346
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 3: don't want him, because again, if you just look at this,

1347
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 3: he's never played the complete season. His on base percentage

1348
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 3: for his career is barely above three three hundred. I

1349
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 3: think even this year it's like three twenty, which is

1350
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 3: a high watermark for him, and he's known to be

1351
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 3: a little bit. That's what I'm looking forward to deal with. Yeah,

1352
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: difficult to deal with at times. He's a listener of

1353
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 3: the draft, like Mark rankings every year. I respect that,

1354
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 3: as I'm saying, he I get I would love Jazz,

1355
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 3: but there's there's definitely some teams I will cross him

1356
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 3: off their list. I think that will kill the market

1357
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 3: for the Marlins. I think even trying to convince him

1358
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: that he's I wasn't going to go there, but I

1359
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 3: would love to just be like this around the queeny's brother.

1360
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 3: Do you know who this guy is? His last name?

1361
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 3: It'd be great him and uh Blade, I'm in. I'll

1362
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 3: do that trade, oh easily.

1363
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that's gitimately a no break or Anybody

1364
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: who says otherwise is stupid.

1365
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 3: So I think that I do have a line of

1366
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: demarcation though with Jazz for our top three, like, I

1367
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: don't know if I would include the Jet and Drew

1368
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 3: or a cliffor I definite wouldn't include Drew. Interesting because

1369
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 3: I think Drew Gilbert's major the player right now. I

1370
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: think he just happened to get hurt.

1371
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: I think Drew Gilbert is almost almost has to be

1372
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 2: in the trade because he is that major league ish

1373
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: player that they can just play for free for the

1374
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: next four years and he'll be pretty decent. Yeah, that's too,

1375
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 2: Like I'd say this, I'd almost I'd almost rather not

1376
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: move Clifford because like, conceptually, Ryan Clifford has the chance

1377
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: to just like hit forty five home runs, Like he

1378
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 2: has a chance to just be a crazy power guy.

1379
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 2: Where Drew Gilbert conceptually, like we're saying the best is

1380
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: like what Brandon Neimo kind of was before he took

1381
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 2: this step forward this year, which is a great baseball

1382
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 2: player if Brandonimo was five ten, yes, Like, but that's

1383
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: like kind of like the ceiling for a guy like

1384
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: Drew Gilbert.

1385
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 3: We're like a guy like Chism could just like thirty

1386
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 3: thirty thirty. Yeah, but I also think that that kind

1387
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 3: of players like kind of criminally underrated. Like the guy

1388
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: that we think Drew Gilbert is like someone who definitely

1389
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: is oli if he's like a dude with all center

1390
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 3: fielder who then like moves to left, he's like a

1391
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 3: nineteen homer two sixty three thirty guys. There's also a

1392
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 3: Roman possibility. He's olex for Dugo. That's true. Yes, as

1393
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: possible too as a lefty. I it's compelling. It's very compelling,

1394
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: compelling for sure.

1395
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: I think if the Mets were to get rashism Drew

1396
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: Gilbert one hundred percent in there. I think that's almost

1397
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: their concession. We're gonna have this young guy who can

1398
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: play the outfield. Now he's gonna go there. That's our

1399
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: We'll give you Drew Gilbert. We don't really need him now.

1400
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, three years of control on him, so might

1401
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: as well A man, that's a good one. Would you

1402
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 3: do you think there's I mean again, I don't think.

1403
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to happen for the Mets.

1404
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 3: But if you were the John manager, you give like

1405
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: very serious consideration for either of these two starting pitchers.

1406
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: I would prefer man.

1407
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 2: Who do I prefer? I think Scooble over Crochet. Those

1408
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 2: are the two we're.

1409
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 3: Talking about, right, Yeah, I don't think he's even a question.

1410
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I would take well, who's the two starting pictures

1411
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: are Schooba and Crochet?

1412
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha. I wasn't sure what we were talking about. Both.

1413
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 3: I think it's both be very expensive. Yeah, both gonna

1414
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 3: be very expensive, all three of those prospects, I think, yeah,

1415
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 3: probably and maybe Sprote Yeah. Oh man, oh, son of

1416
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 3: a bitch. Why couldn't Chritians gott be so dominant right now? Fuck?

1417
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: Uh no, Okay, we could convince the White Sox to

1418
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: take somebody stupid. I'm I'm still yeah, they could take

1419
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: those guys.

1420
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 3: And have Brandon sprout.

1421
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: I think my head tells me Schooble. My heart tells

1422
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: me Crochet, the fact that Crochet has been able to

1423
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: be so good in such a stupid organization.

1424
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 3: Now they're go with pitching now, They're go pitching now.

1425
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: No, but like I mean, he's always had like crazy

1426
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: stuff and been pretty good ever since he got drafted.

1427
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 2: He was like, well, I think the first guy from

1428
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: that class up, he does have the injury concern So

1429
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 2: is Schooble. Ah, gun to my head, Terrek schoobl Terrek

1430
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: Schooble is a guy.

1431
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I else even thank you convinced me to

1432
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 3: trade the whole farm system for him. Really be stupid,

1433
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 3: But I just get tired school bo. I'm like, world

1434
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 3: serious this year, Like, what's what's stopping us now? We

1435
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 3: have the best pitches of baseball, was the deal man.

1436
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: This sucks too. I think we also have to remember

1437
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: that the Mets the pitching might be working.

1438
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 2: So like pitching prospects like be fake. Yeah, just get

1439
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 2: rid of him. Like every Mets fan last year was

1440
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: like clamoring.

1441
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 3: Wait, you get to eat pitching prospects who fucking cares?

1442
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: Because we could just make them out of thin air.

1443
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: Apparently it seems like so, dude, like just get rid

1444
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: of Blade, get rid of fucking dom Ham. We'll get

1445
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: rid of all these guys, like, just smell you later.

1446
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 2: Nolan McLean. You you probably try to cash in on

1447
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 2: Nolan McLean, right.

1448
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 3: MacLean might be one that would. I think he has

1449
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 3: more value to be growing on top. Okay, Like I

1450
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 3: just I think that he just stopped hitting focus on

1451
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 3: pitching the first time in his life. Like, I think

1452
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 3: you have a lot more upside on there. If he's

1453
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 3: the extra for for a guy you're you're holding back

1454
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 3: and again you could you if it's like a real player,

1455
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 3: if it's like a top end type of guy, I

1456
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 3: wouldn't be just dumping Nolan McLean to get us on

1457
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 3: like a Valdi or Yeah, hell no, no, no, no, no,

1458
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 3: no no, Like this would have to be a dynamic

1459
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 3: position player with years of control, or like a top

1460
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 3: two starting pitcher of the years of control. Like that's again,

1461
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 3: and that's where I think this conversation for these top

1462
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 3: end players also ends, because I think those are the

1463
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 3: only high end kind of guys the mess are gonna get.

1464
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 3: I don't think this team is in position right now

1465
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 3: to really jump in on these really good rentals and

1466
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 3: that there aren't even that many on the market right now.

1467
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 3: But like I don't think that Jack Flairy, who to

1468
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 3: me is probably the best rental on the market right now,

1469
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 3: I don't even think that's gonna kick the tires because

1470
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 3: I don't think the Mets are willing to part with

1471
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 3: a high end prospect for three months for a team

1472
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 3: that might win a round or two of the playoffs.

1473
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 3: Jack Flaherty is a Dodger, that's a lock. Yeah, But

1474
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 3: Colliboy going home. Even the guy like Usay Kakuchi, who, like,

1475
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 3: if you starts game three of your playoff series, you

1476
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 3: probably don't feel horrible about it, Like he could be

1477
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 3: like the third banana a playoff rotation you feel okay.

1478
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 3: But I just think that his price might get a

1479
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 3: little overblown for where the Mets want to spend at

1480
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 3: this deadline if they're not being helped in twenty twenty five.

1481
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the other thing we have

1482
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: to talk about too is, I mean, there's some really

1483
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 2: really ugly pitchers that we could talk about, the Chris

1484
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: or Eric Fetti's, the Cal Quantrills, the Tyler Anderson's, Kyle Hendricks,

1485
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: Mike Clevenger. That's probably more realistically where they're gonna be shopping.

1486
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: And that's just kind of what David Searns has done

1487
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 2: in the past. Take a look at David stearns previous

1488
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: trade deadlines. He almost never trades for starting pitching and

1489
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: when he does, it's Wade Miley. So and that guy's

1490
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: got Tommy john this year, so we're not.

1491
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 3: Getting Wade Miley.

1492
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: He will not be in New York met But that's

1493
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: kind of where he shops on the deadline. Where he

1494
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 2: gets more creative is with the relievers and the hitters

1495
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: in the bats, Like, yeah, he's traded four bats before

1496
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: for those teams. Man, Like, I'm starting to get this

1497
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 2: is gonna sound crazy, but I'm starting to get behind

1498
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: the thought too of relief pitchers, of just just get arms,

1499
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: just get more.

1500
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: I don't really.

1501
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 2: Particularly care if your era is good. I don't particularly

1502
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 2: care what you've done this year. I want bodies that

1503
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: can throw, and I want like a pitch that's good.

1504
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 2: I just want one good pitch, Like you have a

1505
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: good fastball, you have a good slider. That's all I need.

1506
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 3: Kind of interesting in my favorite leaver, John Brebia with

1507
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: the great fastball. Teach me about John Brebea, because I'm

1508
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 3: scared of this guy. I don't know something about. Like

1509
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 3: the neckbeard terrifies me. I love the neck beard for

1510
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 3: a playoff round. But Brebia is on the White Sox

1511
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 3: right now. His era is high, but his fastball is

1512
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 3: still amazing, and he just he just turns it over

1513
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 3: and over again. That White Sox team has one of

1514
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 3: the worst defenses in baseball top to bottom. Brebea is

1515
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 3: a hyper hyper hyper fly ball pitcher. Come to a

1516
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 3: really good defensive outfield with the wide grounds of city Field.

1517
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 3: As the weather gets colder, I think it works out great.

1518
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: He's got thirty percent strikeout rate, a five percent walk right.

1519
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: He's that high.

1520
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 3: It's yes, he's really I've been telling you about John

1521
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 3: Brebey for weeks. He just has and a high era

1522
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 3: because he gets a little too many home runs and

1523
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 3: a lot of balls that hit hard deep in the field.

1524
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 3: I trust Harrison Bathe and Brandimo to get to more

1525
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 3: of these in the White Sox outfielders, and I trust

1526
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 3: the Mets to help him with his approach just enough,

1527
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 3: because right now his fastball is signically better pitch than

1528
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: a slider. For some reason, he's throwing the slider a

1529
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 3: good bit more than the fastball. So I think if

1530
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 3: they just spam fastballs behind his own, use the sliders

1531
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 3: the outpitch. I think there's a world John Brady becomes

1532
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 3: this team and he could be like legitimate seventh inning

1533
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 3: guy and you could probably get him for almost nothing.

1534
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 2: Like I think Mets fans are looking for, like that,

1535
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: who's gonna save this bullpen? I'm gonna tell you right now,

1536
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 2: nobody is saving this bullpen. There is nothing that you

1537
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: can do to save this bullpen besides more arms, just

1538
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 2: get more.

1539
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: And there is someone who can't save this bullpen. I

1540
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 3: think you're looking at it wrong, but it has to

1541
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 3: be Edwin d s Oh Okay, yeah, well yeah, somebody's

1542
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 3: comes through the door. Yes, yes, like this bullpen is

1543
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 3: gonna be driven by how good he is the rest

1544
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 3: of the year, because we're not gonna trade for Mason Miller.

1545
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 3: It's like he's an unprecedented trade that set that I'm

1546
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 3: not giving up multiple top hundred prospects unless we're making

1547
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 3: him a starting pitcher. Yeah. Maybe, but he also could

1548
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 3: never stay healthy until this year. He has such a

1549
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 3: litany of injuries it's stupid, like there's it's just un precedent.

1550
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 3: And there's also a lot of relievers available that are

1551
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 3: claimed to be available, that had tons of team control.

1552
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 3: There's so little president for those guys ever being traded either.

1553
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 3: The one I can really remember is when the Yankees

1554
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 3: a year and a half ago. Remember they got Scotti

1555
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 3: at Frost, Yes, and he got He hasn't basically pitched

1556
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 3: since he was like a really weird They just love

1557
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 3: these singer slider guys, and they traded for it Clay Home. Yeah,

1558
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 3: Clay is actually a lot team control too, and they

1559
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 3: traded like a glut of prospects to get it. They

1560
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 3: all got to the major leagues. None of them ever

1561
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 3: wound up. But yeah, ju Wan Bay and Hoy Park.

1562
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: It was Hoy Park.

1563
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Horde Park. That was end up. Come

1564
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 3: all right, come on, guy, come on. But they also

1565
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 3: Diego Castillo the infielder as well, and they oh and

1566
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 3: I think Roonzi controllers Maybe no, that was James Tyer.

1567
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, Yankees, the Pirates. I'm gonna go look

1568
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 3: it up real quick for you. It's just that those

1569
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 3: those trades for believers a lot of team control don't

1570
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 3: happen as often. I got one. I got a relief

1571
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 3: who got traded with a lot of team control. I

1572
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 3: get the tell me Colin Olderman's goo that you're gonna say,

1573
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 3: Edmund dis Colin Holderman, I got traded with literally unlimited

1574
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,919
Speaker 3: control for a fat Maybe we find the next Colin

1575
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 3: Holderman was Diego steal in Hoy Park. By the way, Yeah,

1576
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 3: I see Hooy Park there. So again, Clay Holme is

1577
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 3: also bad. Until the Yankees traded for they made some

1578
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 3: adjustments like that's probably where it would have to be.

1579
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 3: But in terms of again just relievers that are rentals

1580
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,479
Speaker 3: and available right now, that makes sense for the Mets.

1581
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 3: We said a couple of times Chad Green always been

1582
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 3: a good picture Jimmy Garcia, blue Jay's pretty good. Carlos Stevez,

1583
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 3: stuff looks good right now. He doesn't walk anybody. I

1584
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 3: know Mets fans will love reliever, doesn't walk anybody. I'm terrified.

1585
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 3: Carlos Steves terrified. Kyle Finigan might be even a little

1586
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 3: too expensive for us, probably just too many saves. Somebody

1587
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 3: else will probably make a better offer. Eric Swanson was

1588
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 3: a lights out reliever for years and matters and seems

1589
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 3: like the Blue Jays might have killed him this year,

1590
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 3: but seems like they're still some upside there. Drew Smiley

1591
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 3: swing man Lefty just again to the left in here.

1592
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 3: But this just feels like where Davis startin's a shopping

1593
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 3: or it's a guy that we're not even thinking about,

1594
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 3: not even on our radars right now. Honestly, I can't

1595
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 3: wait to find out who the guys that we haven't

1596
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 3: even spoken about that he trades for. That's gonna be

1597
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 3: so much fun to talk about, Like, oh my god,

1598
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 3: do we miss this guy. It'd be like again if

1599
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 3: maybe someone with control like Alex Faye though on the Tigers,

1600
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 3: or will vest like guys like that who like have

1601
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 3: control and they look like they're pretty good, But then

1602
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 3: you have to be willing to part with probably one

1603
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 3: of the fifteen best prospects in your system. I just

1604
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 3: don't know if David Stearns is willing to do that

1605
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 3: for relievers. I think he trust himself to build relievers.

1606
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 3: Like I think there's a better chance that Shintara Fujinam

1607
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 3: your Brice modess day, Okay, better than then you relieve it,

1608
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 3: we get the trade that.

1609
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: This is a good chance.

1610
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like legitimately, Like, I think that's just where

1611
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 3: this mess organization feels like their strengths are now, which

1612
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 3: is why again I jump back to the bats. I

1613
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 3: think that's the most obvious way based on the types

1614
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 3: of prospects who want to trade to prove this team,

1615
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 3: I mean rapidly. Listen, twenty fifteen. Let's talk about twenty fifteen.

1616
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 3: They got bats, they got your rebate, they got Kelly Johnson,

1617
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 3: they got that team had the best rotation base, they

1618
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 3: got that. But again, there's also a world where I

1619
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 3: would love to see them kicks hires on a Zach Eflin,

1620
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 3: a guy who's good, yes, and pretty cheap for twenty

1621
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 3: twenty five, because that allows you Zach Zachel has been

1622
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 3: horrible to starting picture last like, oh really, he's been

1623
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 3: miserably bad. Yeah, put the back at the bullpen. Get

1624
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 3: him in the bullpen again, That's what I'm saying. But

1625
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 3: a guy like Flinn, like he just becomes such a

1626
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 3: good sponge in the middle's rotation, someone you can so

1627
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 3: reliant for work and innings, moving that sinker in his

1628
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 3: color all over the zone. Has been that good of

1629
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 3: a year. But last year it was like a Sion candidate.

1630
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 3: So he's probably just somewhere in between those two guys.

1631
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 3: He'd be good. He probably will cost you a good bit.

1632
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 3: You probably have to trade probably none of the top

1633
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 3: five prospects, probably one of the prospects ranked five to ten.

1634
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 3: Definitely Bias. They would full the race would turn him.

1635
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 3: He'd be the next Streeter came in era. Fuck, it's

1636
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 3: gonna be a little I could do it. Yeah, I'll

1637
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 3: do that. Okay, it'd be Baby biased. My favorite trade

1638
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 3: Canada day, Tyler Stewart. People know, you know who, you

1639
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 3: know who the race would want? Who Brett Baby? Oh fuck,

1640
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 3: that's their thing. That's exactly who they'd want to know.

1641
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: What had the best career in Tampa Bay ever, Brett

1642
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 2: baby responds to be happy. Yea at this point, like

1643
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: I'd be so happy will not hurt.

1644
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 3: Us in Tampa. I'm so happy to send him there.

1645
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 3: But that I think that's who the race, the rays Wan.

1646
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 3: We've also heard in the past that they they've always

1647
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 3: been interested in Ryan Mauricio, who I think that now

1648
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 3: he's like it's a little too you know, he's a

1649
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 3: little too good now. Maybe the tree him. But Ethlyn's

1650
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 3: a guy as well as two others who I think

1651
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 3: would be significantly cheaper, but of the same idea Old Frank,

1652
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 3: Chris Bassett, James and tie on another one for you,

1653
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: mark Eric Fetty. All guys under control for next year,

1654
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 3: not making a ton of money. This Mets rotation next

1655
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 3: year doesn't have anybody in it. Do you know what,

1656
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 3: my kids, we have no study pitchers twenty pitch. I can't,

1657
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 3: I can't do it. It's good. He's good. Now you have

1658
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 3: to get over it.

1659
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: I can't.

1660
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 3: I will he's good. I'm still remembering him pitch against

1661
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 3: the bets on the Washington Nationals give it up eight

1662
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 3: runs in the first and that Keith. It is like, geez,

1663
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 3: this guy stinks. You know the song Fetty by max

1664
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 3: O Cream. It's one of the best. I'll allow Eric

1665
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 3: Fetty Fetti and Fetty. I allow Eric Fetty on the

1666
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 3: New York Mets if he comes out to Fetti Wop.

1667
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 3: I just left Houston. I just left her. You've ever

1668
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 3: heard that song? Is one that's one of my I

1669
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 3: don't know, max O, max you have a whole world

1670
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 3: waiting for that. I can't wait to look this up

1671
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 3: after this, after we finished this hour and a half

1672
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 3: recorded Granny's Broaches. They're amazing. But again, I think that's

1673
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 3: just that makes the most sense then in terms of pittures,

1674
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 3: that are rentals who are just can't pitch in the rotation.

1675
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 3: So maybe you can move a guy like Scott's the

1676
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 3: bullpen and not feel that bad about it and not

1677
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 3: have to put every all the eggs and Tyler McGill

1678
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 3: basket for the rest of the year. Cal Quantrill, Clevenger, horrible,

1679
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 3: miserable human, Montrel's got control, Oh, Quston quats control till

1680
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 3: twenty interesting. Quatroll is new split this year that's been really, really,

1681
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 3: really good. Also, teammate lost in Gomber. If you get

1682
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:24,959
Speaker 3: the guy out of Colorado, he might just be Okay,

1683
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 3: I think he can't be worse, right, can't be worried.

1684
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 3: I hope that Tyler Anderson stinks. Kyle Hendrick stinks. But

1685
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 3: they have they have they have, they have their breathing

1686
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 3: lungs and beating hearts. I don't know they have. They

1687
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 3: have to have a certains written all over them though.

1688
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 3: But like again, listen to these starting pitches available. The

1689
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 3: deadline drops off fast because I really, my gut tells

1690
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 3: me Scoopball nor Crochet get traded. I don't think. I

1691
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 3: don't think those teams have it in them. So then

1692
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 3: it comes down to e flin Flair, the Kakuchi, Ethlin

1693
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 3: with the control Flairy, the Kuchi, the rentals, Nathan Valdi,

1694
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 3: who I think is a rental I don't remember, I'll

1695
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 3: look it up quick.

1696
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: Real quick.

1697
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 3: That would be That would be like a smart move

1698
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 3: for the Rangers. Yeah, together would that would really prove

1699
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 3: if Chris Young is like progressive or if Bruce Boch

1700
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 3: he's really gotten this fucking massive head in there. Yeah,

1701
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 3: Nathan Valdi is rental with a vesting option. Okay, so

1702
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 3: hopefully doesn't that doesn't invest because that guy's toast. He's roasted,

1703
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 3: but he's someone who who he he every time he

1704
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 3: gets the playoffs's I really don't know, so someone's definitely

1705
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 3: gonna pay up for him. It is probably not gonna

1706
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 3: be the winning the World series.

1707
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1708
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 3: So then it comes back to the same vat of

1709
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 3: e Flyn Bassett, Fety, Quantrill, Taian guys who can be

1710
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 3: in the rotation next year, the fixed cost god and

1711
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 3: again like this, I know you guys want to mess

1712
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 3: up trade deadline previous not gonna be sexy.

1713
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: Like I mean we did.

1714
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 3: We gave them like twenty five minutes to sexy where

1715
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 3: we were like what if we trade every single prospect

1716
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 3: for Luis? Yeah, roberta be sick. But then again like

1717
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 3: then I gets I he come back the same tier

1718
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 3: of bats guys like rend hefoh guy like Brandon Lao,

1719
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 3: everyone's favorite for men. I'm a razorry. Those are those

1720
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 3: aren't Neil Movers, those are mos. But again, winker MESSI

1721
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,799
Speaker 3: left you bat he makes tons sense. Taylor Ward advanced

1722
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 3: that data control Taylor Award always has. They apparently they

1723
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 3: want too much for him and no one knows deem

1724
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 3: their price. Ian Happ doesn't have a long term deal

1725
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 3: Lane Thompson think has one or two years left. Tommy

1726
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 3: FAM's always ready for action. But there's no way he's

1727
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,759
Speaker 3: coming back into this clubhouse. But definitely not he Honestly,

1728
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 3: Tommy fan would ruin this team. I think I even

1729
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 3: Kelly brand Drury just be like here, come out of Anaheim,

1730
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 3: man play some winning baseball like he that's Kelly Johnson

1731
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 3: is from twenty Fiftyember one. It's like to have some

1732
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 3: fun again, like the I think the messhould have a

1733
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 3: lot of room to build on this bench right now,

1734
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 3: because every single day we got DJ just doing Ben

1735
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 3: Gamill sitting on there. They really they're probably just not

1736
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 3: majorage caliber baseball players right now. We love our king DJ,

1737
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 3: but I think his time has come and he has

1738
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 3: an option. We're not losing him, no next year. If

1739
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 3: he has a great sprink, happy to have him.

1740
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 2: He could he could come back in September when the

1741
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 2: roster expands whatever.

1742
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, so again I think that's I mean, I don't

1743
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 3: even know you think that's the whole trade that my

1744
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 3: preview we talked about, like what the city names. I got, Okay,

1745
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 3: let me let me just throw out.

1746
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 2: Let's throw out a couple of chaos scenarios, just to

1747
01:09:58,160 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: wrap up the Strade deadline preview before we go into

1748
01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 2: the Oh.

1749
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 3: And Riley Green forgot about Raley Green. Forgot about Riley Green.

1750
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: Riley Green's coming, Riley Green, you are in New York,

1751
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: met And we did call about Jose Al Tube, so

1752
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 2: he's coming home. Yeah, don't forget that. Okay, let me

1753
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: throw o two chaos ones. If the Tigers pay for

1754
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 2: all of Javier Bias' contract, do you give him a

1755
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 2: shot again? Because holy shit, the hip of the Door

1756
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 2: were incredible that one year.

1757
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 3: They were so good the machismo winfield of Bias, Lindora

1758
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:34,839
Speaker 3: Glacias and put first. Yeah, I know right, Like, but seriously,

1759
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 3: if the Tigers said we pay every single every single dollar,

1760
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 3: you will not pay one dollar more than what you

1761
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 3: physically have to to employ this man on your team.

1762
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 3: Do you take what is the worst hitter in Major

1763
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 3: League Baseball? Yeah? Fuck yeah, bring him back to New York.

1764
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 3: Bringing back was like one of his best friends. Like,

1765
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 3: I don't think he'd be very good, but for league

1766
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 3: minimum totally, And if he stinks, you got him right,

1767
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 3: that's what it is.

1768
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: These things.

1769
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 3: Get rid of him. Just play second base like a

1770
01:10:59,439 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 3: hit ninth.

1771
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 1: I'm serious.

1772
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 2: I think the Tigers might take like a brand new

1773
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 2: washing machine for Javier Bias.

1774
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 3: I don't think I would trade the brand new washing

1775
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 3: for I think it would have to be twenty thirteen model, okay, and.

1776
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 2: Then the other chaos one. I think Randya rose rain

1777
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 2: is the other chaos one. Yeah, Randia Rosereina has the chance,

1778
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 2: like to come into this team and do what Sespez

1779
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 2: did where all of a sudden you're like, holy shit,

1780
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 2: like Randi Roserena, you want to talk about clutch, you

1781
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 2: want to talk about hits with the runners in scoring position.

1782
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: I don't care what the numbers say. I've watched him

1783
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. I watched twenty twenty. He just has

1784
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 2: the chance to just and the fucking this the machismo.

1785
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 2: That guy has the swag that he'd bring to this team.

1786
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that'd be incredible.

1787
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 3: He probably costs a bunch, though he has two more

1788
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 3: years control after this one. You're definitely getting burd of

1789
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 3: Hazer's bias for sure. There Ye has probably has bias.

1790
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 3: And then it's a baby and that's probably a picture.

1791
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 2: What if I say, Okay, I'm gonna say something crazy.

1792
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 2: Just I want to get your opinion here, Brett Bady,

1793
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 2: Christian Scott, and.

1794
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 3: Any other top prospect for Randia rose Arena. I thought

1795
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 3: you were gonna say Randy and Efflyn. No, just Randy.

1796
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: I don't know about Scott.

1797
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 3: Guy got six years of control here and a guy's

1798
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 3: probably a major. There's no truth to this. I just

1799
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 3: wanted to see what your opinion was. I thought about it.

1800
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 3: I had to think about it. If you tell me

1801
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 3: it's Rosemarina and Ef Flyin, I would include Chritian Scott. Oh, yeah,

1802
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 3: of course, I think that's a little bit of shit. Yeah,

1803
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 3: I've been saying, like, I think there's again they m

1804
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 3: could probably get craived do something like that too, or

1805
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 3: you know what happened. This team might not do anything

1806
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 3: or they do nothing. Yeah, they do. We might do nothing.

1807
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 3: They trade out of Monelvino and they do nothing. This

1808
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 3: geed just have funhotography and that's actually number one move

1809
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 3: we got to replace at a Monavino. That's if there's

1810
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 3: anything that they do. He looked better the other night.

1811
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 3: He did. It can't be worse, can't be worse than

1812
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 3: I can't. But all right, it's a good one. It's

1813
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 3: good credit on I preview.

1814
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna we got like twenty five more minutes

1815
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 2: to talk about the Subway series, so uh yeah, enjoy

1816
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 2: it all right. So we're now moving on to the

1817
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: Subway series portion of the episode.

1818
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 3: You guys know the drill.

1819
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: We like to talk about what's going on over here,

1820
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: but we're doing something a little bit different. We're bringing

1821
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 2: on a guest here. We have Zach from the Makeshift Project. Zach,

1822
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 2: thank you for joining us. Appreciate it and glad to

1823
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,799
Speaker 2: have another Mets fan joined us here today.

1824
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 1: I hear you guys have opinions between yourselves. I'm here

1825
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 1: to settle what the fans think, all right, you guys

1826
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: are way too close to things. This is what the

1827
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 1: true people think.

1828
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 3: And usually when we have people on for the preview

1829
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 3: of the next yeares you'd like to have a fan

1830
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 3: from that team, mom, but we said fuck that. Now

1831
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 3: for the Subway series, I don't don't want to bring

1832
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 3: any Yankee fans in here. We want to screw up

1833
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 3: the mojo we have right now. So just Zach with

1834
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 3: your opinions ahead of the Subway Series. Are gonna have

1835
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 3: Yankee Stadium.

1836
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: This week yeah. You know what, It's funny because my

1837
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: roommate was trying to beg me to go to the

1838
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: previous Subway series. I wound up not going. I was like,

1839
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: I could go to any other random game for cheaper,

1840
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know what, like you guys have

1841
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 1: this one. I was thinking about making my way out

1842
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: this week. I'm excited as a Mets fan. This second

1843
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: half isn't off to the best start, but I mean,

1844
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: I don't know saying us coming back soon? Right? You

1845
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: got Katana and uh and Manaya pitching right and then

1846
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: in the series. Yep, yeah, so like two pretty solid

1847
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: pitches for us. I mean, Katana was hot before I

1848
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: got rocked a little bit. I feel pretty good. I mean,

1849
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 1: we're versusing Gill and Cole. We'll see what happens. But listen,

1850
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: as a Mets fan, you gotta believe always that that's

1851
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: always my pride and joy. We gotta take the season series.

1852
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: We gotta do it now.

1853
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 3: I know your co host Brian could enjoy us. Say

1854
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 3: he got busy and he's a Yankees fan.

1855
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 2: Do you guys give each other a lot of shit

1856
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 2: back and forth of a Mets Yankee stuff?

1857
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? We definitely do a little bit. I poke at

1858
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: all his sports teams. He's a Nets fan, he's a

1859
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: Rangers fan. Yeah, I'm I'm Mets, Knicks, Dolphins, notoriously pretty

1860
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: miserable franchises. But hey, you know what, I'm used to

1861
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: this stuff. You're always optimistic going into a year, you're

1862
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: always disappointed, and when you're good, it's great.

1863
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 3: Had the Dolphins sneak in there? Why are you Dolphins fan?

1864
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: So my name is Zach Thomas, So Zach Thomas, Hall

1865
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: of Fame linebacker for the Dolphins. I felt like I

1866
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 1: just had to go that route. But the season I

1867
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: became a Dolphins fan, I was a Giants Dolphins fan.

1868
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: Season I became one, Dolphins won one and fifteen and

1869
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: the Giants won the Super Bowl. So I've yet to

1870
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: see my team win a championship, which, you know what, eventually,

1871
01:14:58,600 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: it'll be the best day of my life.

1872
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we're we're in the same boat.

1873
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a Mets, Knicks, Rangers, and Washington Commanders fan,

1874
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 2: so there's there's no winning in my future anytime soon.

1875
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 2: And and James pretty much the same thing.

1876
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 3: No, I'm Mets, Mets, Jets, Knicks Rangers. So I had

1877
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 3: like as bad of a twenty years a professional sports

1878
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 3: fan them as basically anybody in America could have possibly had.

1879
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 3: Besides people from Minnesota, I'd say, just besides them. So

1880
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,759
Speaker 3: that was going to when I was going to college,

1881
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 3: I was like, I need I need a winner. So

1882
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 3: I went to Ohio State and my freshman year won

1883
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 3: the national championship.

1884
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you count that count.

1885
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 3: I've had nothing. I've had no how could not count that?

1886
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 3: Of course I was there. I was a part of

1887
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 3: that was basically on the team. I was a freshman.

1888
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 3: That was That was every single snap that was there.

1889
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: My random pull of the day is the Orlando Apollos

1890
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 1: won the aa F league got shut down because of COVID.

1891
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: I was a fan, That's what That's the team I

1892
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: was rooting for. But that doesn't count. They were like

1893
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 1: seven to one in this season ended. It doesn't sound

1894
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm not taking.

1895
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 3: This is a really deep cup. I remember that af

1896
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 3: season vividly and who Apolo's had a really good coach?

1897
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 1: Was it Huts?

1898
01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 3: Was was Spurrier? I think? And I remember one one

1899
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 3: random sportsbook that I had had a f futures and

1900
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 3: my one friend from college and I were big football guys,

1901
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 3: were like, oh, they're gonna win. We have to take

1902
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 3: I think we had like seven to one, and they

1903
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 3: were dominating the They're dominating the whole league. And the

1904
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 3: season got ended and we did not get paid out,

1905
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 3: and I was so fucking mad at these people. Live

1906
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 3: with that forever. We'll never forget the Apollos incredible season that.

1907
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: Was due Garrett Gilbert quarterback. He led it. That was it.

1908
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 3: He got the NFL contract. Oh man, Gary Gilbert, I

1909
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 3: think has the Brett Baty connection too, right then they

1910
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 3: I think they went to the same high school we did.

1911
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 3: That that TikTok that was with Garret Wilson.

1912
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, both of them also just can't perform at the

1913
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 1: top level. Yeah, well got there. I know. Listen, I'm

1914
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: telling you it's a fan.

1915
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 3: If if there was ever an AF for baseball, Brett

1916
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 3: bay win the MVP, There's no question he would destroy it.

1917
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 3: Like if they if an independent league started that was

1918
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 3: just like a hair better than Triple A but a

1919
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 3: little bit worse than the major leagues. He would be

1920
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 3: the best player in the league. All Star Jersey and

1921
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 3: the Rafters number retired forever.

1922
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: It's so tough because like, I'm a believer too, and

1923
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 1: it's like, uh, like I feel like he's got, like

1924
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 1: the Vientos, like potential to go down that route. Maybe

1925
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five home runs, a bunch of RBIs hit

1926
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: about like two eighty two ninety and like a great year. Listen,

1927
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 1: I would love that, But not yet, Brett Batty. Maybe

1928
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: I'll have his day, or maybe it won't be a

1929
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: met who knows. If it's not on the Mets, it's

1930
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: gonna be done on another team.

1931
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 3: Put it out, said someone, a Mets twiler.

1932
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: Wins.

1933
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 3: Viento's really took the job in June, and we talked

1934
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 3: about in the podcast. They just put up a picture

1935
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 3: of Lucas do then Mike Davis, which he about, Oh

1936
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 3: you got that, you got that connection and it's so

1937
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 3: damn well. But exactly how it went with the one

1938
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 3: guy was like destined. He was a higher draftic, he

1939
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 3: was a better prospect, and the other guy just might

1940
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 3: have been a little bit hungrier and might have just

1941
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 3: wanted it a little bit more. And that's kind of

1942
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 3: where it is. And it doesn't work out that badly

1943
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 3: because if you would tell a Mets fan three years ago.

1944
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 3: One of these two guys will be a future corner

1945
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 3: in fielder, great player, potential All Star back. You're like, Okay,

1946
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 3: if we get one of them, whoever it is, I'm

1947
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 3: not gonna be upset about it. But having one is fine.

1948
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, complain the whole Davis, Lucas Dudent. Didn't they that

1949
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 1: off like bat or like ball velocity, exit velocity. I

1950
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:05,799
Speaker 1: think that's how they determine.

1951
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 3: Luda had elite eggs of vilos.

1952
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 2: I remember, like you can now look back on base

1953
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 2: and he's like if he was around now, people would

1954
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 2: be like drooling over Lucas Touda. He did exactly what

1955
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 2: everybody in the baseball community, like the analytics world wants.

1956
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 2: We just hit the ball hard and walk and he

1957
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 2: was a lead at it. We just didn't appreciate it enough.

1958
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 2: But it also doesn't help that he couldn't make a

1959
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 2: throw from ninety feet away. But regardless, you only need

1960
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 2: to talk about Lucas do as much anymore. Talk about

1961
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 2: another first basement on this team, Pete Alonzo. He's been

1962
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 2: struggling mightily and coming into the Subway Series. Uh, it's

1963
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 2: just it's been a rough stretch, especially this series against

1964
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 2: the Marlins. Me and James love Pete. We we know

1965
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 2: Pete's great. We were trying to boost get everybody to

1966
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 2: give him a little standing. Oh, boosts his confidence a

1967
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 2: little bit because he's a little he's like a little dog,

1968
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 2: he's a he's a puppy.

1969
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 3: Like he's in the corner of shame. He's feeling bad,

1970
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 3: he's feeling sad.

1971
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 2: How do you feel as a Mets fan about Pete Alnso,

1972
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: what's your thoughts on him this season thus far?

1973
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean, is he doing anything that differently than last year?

1974
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: Maybe a few less home runs on track heading into

1975
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: the All Star break? You know, it wasn't getting the

1976
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 1: ball out of the park, and you know that's what

1977
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: he's kind of paid to do. Yeah, I always said

1978
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: if he could got like two thirty two forty and

1979
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: hit forty home runs, I'm fine with it. I think

1980
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 1: he's dipped kind of around that or a little bit below,

1981
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,560
Speaker 1: and he's not driving in as many runs as he

1982
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 1: did in previous year. So I feel good about Pete Alonzo.

1983
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: I want him to be a met forever in one

1984
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: of those but it's tough, and I think you heard

1985
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: this argument a million places. If we get a player

1986
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: in return next year, or you bring up prospects and

1987
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: then you sign like a Soto, like you're gonna be fine,

1988
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: like and it's hard to get rid of those homegrown guys,

1989
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: but like, at the same time, you're gonna have generational

1990
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 1: talent that's available. So if you're getting rid of him

1991
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: so that you could sign someone else, maybe okay, or

1992
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: one or two like you know, B plus A minus

1993
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 1: players because you know you have tools on the team

1994
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 1: that can replace him at first base. It's not to

1995
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 1: be the whole thing, but it's like the moneyball thing.

1996
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 1: It's like, well, thirty home runs year and twenty home

1997
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 1: runs yere, and all of a sudden you got fifty.

1998
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 3: When you made that comment, I wish that your partner

1999
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 3: was on here for Yankee fan to hear that, be like, yeah,

2000
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 3: you lose Lon, but you get one. So though, it's

2001
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 3: like it's not all bad, like, yeah, you trade the

2002
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 3: guy who's like pretty good for the guy's a pure generational,

2003
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 3: all time talent. I think as most Mess fans take

2004
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 3: that trade.

2005
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: Every time completely, I'm let like, I I agree, give

2006
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: him the Lindor treatment, give him what was formerly known

2007
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 1: as the Trey Turner treatment. He's if he's suffering, if

2008
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: he's not performing, well, give him a standing ovation, get

2009
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: him going a little bit. The home run derby was

2010
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 1: tough to watch. Yeah, miserable, hard and like I shouldn't care,

2011
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 1: Like why do we care about that? I'm much more

2012
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: like involved in the season, But like, I'm just happy

2013
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: he didn't come in last place. Was he he's second

2014
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 1: to last by like a home run or two?

2015
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 3: It was?

2016
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 2: It was it was a rough rough outing for me.

2017
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 2: He's had he's had a rough like month. It seems

2018
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 2: like he's just been down in the dumpspin and been

2019
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 2: terrible mentally. It seems like it's really been taking a

2020
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,560
Speaker 2: toll on him, which which sucks.

2021
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 1: But I had, like Lindor did the same thing to

2022
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: start the year, right, I mean, you in like one

2023
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 1: fifty and you're like, this is the guy we're paying

2024
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: three hundred and forty one million dollars and then he

2025
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: comes out he's he should have been an All Star,

2026
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 1: So you got streaks this season. I'll used to be

2027
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: a big Jeff McNeil guy. And not like I'm loaning

2028
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 1: him too right now, but like again, like you put

2029
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 1: him on like the Dodgers or something. They'll pick him

2030
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: up and sign him for like three million a year

2031
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 1: and they'll bat like three thirty.

2032
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:21,719
Speaker 3: Again.

2033
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: It's just how it works as a Mets fan.

2034
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 3: Zach Mark and I talk about how we get like

2035
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 3: trapped in our own Mets echo chamber a lot because

2036
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 3: we're kind of the only Mets fans that we talked

2037
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 3: to this deeply. And then we both have our dads

2038
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 3: who kind of agree with us, because there are dads

2039
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 3: and we talk to them all the time about this

2040
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 3: shit too, So it just becomes like a sesspool of

2041
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 3: the exact same takes over and over again. Have your

2042
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 3: opinions on Pete changed with all as the years gone on,

2043
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 3: Like you have a different view of pe Alonzo now

2044
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,919
Speaker 3: than you might have on like March fifteenth.

2045
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 1: I think it was so dependent on how the season

2046
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 1: was going. I mean, if they weren't in contention and

2047
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't working out and the locker room wasn't so great,

2048
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: Like I'm leaning more towards the way. I'm leaning more

2049
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: towards switching it up right. The Mets have made a

2050
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: push here. They're in a spot where they could bat

2051
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 1: a four wildcard. I definitely want to see him throughout

2052
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: the season. I don't want to overpay him in the offseason.

2053
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: My perspectives probably changed as they were bad and good

2054
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: and bad and good. I mean, they've been so streaky

2055
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: this year, but my opinion on the player is the same.

2056
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 1: He's hard working, he cares up there. He's a player

2057
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: that I want in my clubhouse. I just don't I

2058
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: don't want to see him go, So I'm gonna say

2059
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: I stayed pretty steady, but I was like more okay

2060
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 1: with traying them. When the Mets are eleven games under five.

2061
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 2: Hundred, yeah, I be nice for him to definitely wake

2062
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 2: up here, especially again struggling against the Marlins like that.

2063
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 2: This series has been absolute hell and going into the

2064
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 2: Subway Series, they kind of need to win some games here,

2065
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 2: especially if they want to be considered as like a

2066
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 2: playoff team moving forward. Luckily, we kind of started this

2067
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 2: awful streak for the Yankees. I think I saw something

2068
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 2: where they've lost twenty of their last twenty six or

2069
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 2: twenty nine games, which is kind of crazy.

2070
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 3: Nine yeah for a team that was like so hot

2071
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 3: to start the year.

2072
01:22:58,880 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: Going into the.

2073
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 3: Subway Series with both these teams playing poorly. Do you

2074
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 3: think that the vibes are still there?

2075
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 2: Because I feel like the first matchup we had at

2076
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 2: City Field there there was some hype there because the

2077
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 2: Mets were just starting to get hot and the Yankees

2078
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 2: were one of the best.

2079
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 3: Teams in baseball. And now these teams are both kind

2080
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 3: of skidding into this next part of the weird two

2081
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 3: games piece Subway series that we get. Do you feel

2082
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 3: like there's the same hype that there has been?

2083
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, that's the Subway saying. I got

2084
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: a roommate over here that's across the wall over here.

2085
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: He's a Yankees fan, and he drives me crazy all

2086
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 1: the time. Yankee fans every single year, they got super excited.

2087
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 1: They're doing great, phenomenal, and then they go on this

2088
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: midseason slide and all we say to them, you'll be fine,

2089
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 1: you'll be okay, but we're not set up to win

2090
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: a championship. But we're not. And then they wind up

2091
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 1: winning a few games at September, they go into the

2092
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 1: postseason and they don't Fine, You're in the postseason every year,

2093
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: So the hype for them is still there. They're still

2094
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: in playoff contention. You got two teams that are battling

2095
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 1: for playoff spots. I think the hype is still there.

2096
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: And as the younger brother Mets fans, I hate the

2097
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 1: younger brother expression, but as the younger brother, like, yeah,

2098
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,600
Speaker 1: we want to go in there and beat you. But

2099
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: for like this kid, I wish he was here. I

2100
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: should have brought him over to me before the Subway series.

2101
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 1: He goes, oh, I'll be happy if the Yankees split.

2102
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: This is when the Mets were like five games under

2103
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 1: five hundred. I'm like, what kind of fan are you.

2104
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a cross town rival and you're

2105
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,600
Speaker 1: just okay if they split the series, it was unbelievable.

2106
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's just the epitome of Yankee fans. And

2107
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a basher of Yankee fans

2108
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 1: because they do care. He watches every single game in

2109
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 1: this kid, but sometimes they just get in your head.

2110
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 3: Man.

2111
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: The spice is still there.

2112
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yankee fans definitely care, But there's almost like a

2113
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 3: fear of them of the Mets because there's so much

2114
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 3: of every Yankee fan's personality is that older brother mentality.

2115
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 3: But there's there's a world where it doesn't exist forever.

2116
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 3: If the Yankees keep winning, this would be fifeen years

2117
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 3: of that championship for the Yankees. I'll be one of

2118
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 3: the longest routes, which is insane to say, in the

2119
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 3: history of the franchise, which is fucking cool, but also

2120
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 3: it's like for them that wears you down, and this

2121
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 3: team just has holes after holes after holes. Then you

2122
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 3: have radio hosts like a favor of the show for

2123
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,759
Speaker 3: Mark and I Keith McPherson who says that this series

2124
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 3: is the World Series for the Mets, and then he's

2125
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 3: a Yankee fan like chanting and screaming in the dugout,

2126
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 3: like terrorizing players on the field, terrorizing Mets fans in

2127
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 3: the stands. It's like, so whose World Series is it?

2128
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 3: Sometimes I don't know, it gets a little conflated where

2129
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 3: the Yankees just kind of were stuck in a rut

2130
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 3: right now. I don't know what They're just kind of

2131
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 3: playing to hang on. See you think it hot again

2132
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 3: when the Mets have a lot on the line every

2133
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 3: single game, So it's fun, but it's always it always

2134
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 3: flips to Yankee Stateium. Met's play bad Yankee Stadium.

2135
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm not going there. I just remember pleasure. I'm at

2136
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 1: walking off in Yankee Stadium. I think I need a

2137
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 1: stats guy, Like, is that the only walk off homewer

2138
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 1: to happen in an opponent stadium? I feel like it

2139
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 1: has to be.

2140
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 3: It's got Maybe I'll be there. I feel like that year.

2141
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 3: There might have been a few of them, but that

2142
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 3: was the one that I sticks as to me that

2143
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 3: I remember the most.

2144
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: Remember my friends, it was fun. I was all the

2145
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: Yankee fans I'm pointing in laughing because I thought they

2146
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 1: had a one.

2147
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I METI is still win from the turn the corner.

2148
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 3: But any any feeling for you? Also gonna get back

2149
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 3: to Sobay series a little bit, but just trade deadline stuff,

2150
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 3: talk about briefly, any feeling for you buyer, seller, one

2151
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 3: player you want anything like that.

2152
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know the exact player that I would want.

2153
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 1: I just like the bullpen's been such an issue this season,

2154
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: and like especially with Diaz being up and down, and

2155
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,480
Speaker 1: he's been great in his last you know, ten appearances

2156
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 1: or so. They need to beef up the bullpen though

2157
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm watching guys that I don't even know the names

2158
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 1: of anymore, and that's no offense to them because some

2159
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 1: of them haven't been good, but like was it reed Garrett,

2160
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: Like I can't watch him pitch every single other game,

2161
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, it's it's tough for me hopping

2162
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 1: in because I don't watch the games as much as

2163
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 1: I used to. But when I see a blown lead

2164
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: and stuff and they're winning late and then I see

2165
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: him collapse like that, that's the hardest part for me.

2166
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:48,600
Speaker 1: And if you want to win and you want to

2167
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: be a contender, you need a bullpen. You've seen that

2168
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: with the Rays for years. And then just picking up

2169
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe another bat you got, kind of

2170
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,719
Speaker 1: that d H spot that looms from time to time,

2171
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 1: or somebody like an outfield there. I'm hoping Marte comes back.

2172
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 1: I don't even know the injury report on him because

2173
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: I feel like every single time he's close he doesn't yep.

2174
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 1: So I mean he's he's had a great year and

2175
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 1: if he comes back, that lineup gets better. And I

2176
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: honestly like our lineup right now. So just just beef

2177
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: up the pitching. You get Sanga back, which will hopefully

2178
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 1: be like an All Star edition like when we got

2179
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: the Grom back two years ago. So we'll see uh

2180
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: no targeted in particular. I remember, like in twenty fifteen,

2181
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 1: I was like cesspit this, like I want sesp this,

2182
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,679
Speaker 1: and we got him. But uh yeah, it's a little

2183
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: different this time around. Just give me some help in

2184
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: the bullpen. I'll be happy.

2185
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 3: Well.

2186
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 2: I do like how you mentioned the lineup because you

2187
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 2: give me a natural segue into what we're gonna do here. Yeah,

2188
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 2: everybody probably knows you from again makes your project, and

2189
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 2: you guys have had tons of clips go viral on

2190
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 2: Instagram and TikTok. So we're we're going to try our

2191
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 2: little shot here at getting some little Instagram TikTok clips

2192
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 2: from you.

2193
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 3: See, if we keep the momentum going here.

2194
01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 1: Anytime my production light on you on, get everything going.

2195
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 3: I'll explain it while you're setting everything up there right there.

2196
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 2: So what we're gonna have you do is we're gonna

2197
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 2: go around the infield. We're gonna go around the field

2198
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 2: and we're gonna have you pick a lineup between Mets

2199
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 2: and Yankees current players. So we'll start a catcher, we'll

2200
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 2: end that's starting pitcher, and you're gonna go through and

2201
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 2: tell me who you would start at each position. Between

2202
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 2: the Mets and the Yankees current roster. So we're gonna

2203
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 2: get his started here at catcher.

2204
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 3: Who are you going with?

2205
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm taking Francisco avaaz du Come on, he's been like

2206
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: two ninety eight last time I checked. He's got some

2207
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: pop in the bat, and the Mets just win when

2208
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 1: he's on the field. I don't I don't even know

2209
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: that Yankees catcher anymore.

2210
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 3: Come on, here we go. I'll play Okay, first base,

2211
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 3: it's gonna be between Pete A. Lonzo and what Ben Rice?

2212
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 3: I guess that's that's the option. He's been hot, but

2213
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 3: uh yeah, you go with it. First.

2214
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 1: Ben Rice sounds like a guy you would create an

2215
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,640
Speaker 1: MLB the show like it's that doesn't sound like a

2216
01:28:56,640 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 1: real person, Like that's that's my my player. I'm taking

2217
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 1: Peter Awanzo. Come on, listen track record because he could

2218
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 1: get hot at a time, and he could go on

2219
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: one of those runs where he hits eight home runs

2220
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 1: in like ten games. It's gonna be helpful. I'm making

2221
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: a postseason run here.

2222
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 2: Okay, second base, we've got Glaber Torres Verse. Oh my god,

2223
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 2: Ladin hit superstar Jose Glacias.

2224
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,640
Speaker 1: Is this a little biased? Like I feel like I

2225
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I feel like we're in

2226
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 1: one way. I don't know. Glaber hasn't been that great

2227
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 1: this year.

2228
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 3: Right, No, he's not bad. He's been quite bad.

2229
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:32,959
Speaker 1: So like, where am I going? OMG? Right, like Glacis.

2230
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 1: I've been a fan of Jose Glacias since he was

2231
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: on the Angels making Highlight after Highlight, I used to

2232
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: send clips to my friends. I'm like, I love this guy.

2233
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: And when the Mets picked them up eleven games under

2234
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: five hundred, oh my god, exactly. And I didn't even

2235
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: know he was the artist of that song until like

2236
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. I thought he just performed on the field.

2237
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell is happening?

2238
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:56,759
Speaker 3: This is also big because if you could pick Iglesias,

2239
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 3: then you also get the song. Like that's so that's crazy.

2240
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 1: For the locker room vibes, you need it. It's at

2241
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: the clubhouse, man, it's important. So I picked three Mets

2242
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 1: so far for something.

2243
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 2: Picking another Met, I'd mean, this one feels obvious, But

2244
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,759
Speaker 2: Francisco Lindor, Anthony Volpia, We'll take Lindor.

2245
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, snubbed all Star? I mean, am I gonna pick

2246
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 1: the other way at all. I don't know. I feel

2247
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:16,440
Speaker 1: like I will eventually.

2248
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:20,919
Speaker 3: I'll field you. Might I'll fire third base, Mark Vientos

2249
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 3: or DJ le may you I think is kind of

2250
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 3: their option there. Maybe JD.

2251
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 1: Davis? You getting to pick JD JD. I don't want

2252
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: to go back to JD. Davis. I was such a

2253
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 1: fan of him.

2254
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 3: Was it?

2255
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 1: How long ago was that?

2256
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 3: Was it twenty five years? He was still doing twenty two?

2257
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 1: He traded the year he batted like three hundred, and

2258
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 1: he was not going to double walk off doubles off

2259
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: the center field wall like oh man. He had power,

2260
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 1: he had pop. I'm not taking him though. He's supposed

2261
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: to be a lefty killer, and every single time I

2262
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 1: see him, a Gun's a lefty he strikes out. Now,

2263
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 1: I can't do it. Give me, give me a Viento's

2264
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 1: he's young, the young guns. Our hole in field is

2265
01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 1: the Mets Is this.

2266
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 3: That's design all right?

2267
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 1: Now?

2268
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 2: It rooves the outfield. Things might change here, although not

2269
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 2: in left field. We're gonna keep the Mets street going

2270
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 2: here or Big Alex Verdugo, who you going with there?

2271
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 1: Alex Vradugo, who also just struggled besides against his former team, right, ah, yeah, No,

2272
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 1: I'll take Brandon Neimo, another snubbed All Star honestly, like

2273
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 1: it's it's a shame that the Mets only had Alonzo

2274
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 1: and he was the one that was struggling the most

2275
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 1: at the deadline or the All Star break. Give me

2276
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 1: a Brandon Nemo.

2277
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 2: Okay, center field, we've got city boy, Harrison Bader or

2278
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge.

2279
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 1: Listen, I love Beater, but but I can't Aaron Judge.

2280
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 1: It's top three player in the MLBA, just hands down,

2281
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 1: phenomenal player, a generational talent. You take him every time.

2282
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 2: And then right field, we've got one. So I don't

2283
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 2: know if you've heard of him. I don't know if

2284
01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 2: we even want him on the Mets. Who knows one?

2285
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 2: So is this guy going up against I.

2286
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 3: Guess McNeil McNeil wwiffer place right field for the Mets.

2287
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 1: You could take McNeil, Marte, you could take whoever. Any

2288
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:12,720
Speaker 1: of those guys impair them together. They're not taking over one.

2289
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:14,719
Speaker 1: So who will be a Met in the future.

2290
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 3: There you go.

2291
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 1: Listen, we got a fingers crossed over here. We're digging

2292
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: into Stevie's pockets. James.

2293
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 3: Who's the Yankees DH right now? Uh, it's they split

2294
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 3: now because they it's been Jami Jones somewhat normally. So

2295
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 3: we'll go Jami Jones to the last one. Yankee D

2296
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 3: versus JD Martinez from the Mets.

2297
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, JD Martinez again, Jamias Jones. That guy's a

2298
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 1: my player. He's not real, like until you establish yourself

2299
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 1: for like at least a year in the MLB. If

2300
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 1: you have a name like that, I just can't. I

2301
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 1: can't take you. Now, We're taking JD. He's one of

2302
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 1: the best sluggers of the last five ten years. All right.

2303
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 3: I like it.

2304
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 1: I like it.

2305
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 2: I mean it seems seems like a lot of Mets

2306
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 2: Mets better. That's better team or the Mets better team.

2307
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 1: That's what I'm like. Why aren't the Mets up there?

2308
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 1: And plus like our hasn't even been that bad. I

2309
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 1: guess it's the bullpen. Whatever, we're gonna get up over here.

2310
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the real kiss of that thing. This

2311
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 2: was like me and James have arguments about the Yankees

2312
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 2: all the time. James tends to like the Yankees a

2313
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 2: little bit more than me, just because I have my

2314
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 2: horse blinders on and I just blindly hate them.

2315
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 3: There's so much rage that is behind me with the.

2316
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 2: Yankees that I tend to overlook sometime. But I will

2317
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 2: say they are having the issues that I thought that

2318
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 2: they would have at the beginning of the year, where

2319
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 2: their lineup is so top heavy, and we've seen that,

2320
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 2: and I think the Mets kind of figured that out

2321
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 2: and might and the Red Sox definitely did when they

2322
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 2: exposed them that one series where it's like, hey, don't

2323
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 2: pitch to Aaron Judge and Juan Soto and let the

2324
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 2: other guys beat you and they have a really difficult

2325
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 2: time scoring runs. I wonder if the Mets are gonna

2326
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 2: go with that same kind of philosophy again, because in

2327
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 2: the first Subway series they really didn't pitch the Judge

2328
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 2: or Soto unless they were up a bunch of runs,

2329
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 2: and that's when they did get their home runs, but

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01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 2: otherwise they were just walking these guys. Put them on base.

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01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Jamai Jones, give us a shot. See if

2332
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 2: you can do it.

2333
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 3: So there was so specific about wanting lefties to face

2334
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 3: the Yankees again like they had lined up originally for Peterson,

2335
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 3: and it wasn't Kazan. It was a maniacat who faced

2336
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 3: the Yankees the first time. Then Katana got sick out

2337
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 3: of the Alsto breaks a fever for lest three days.

2338
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 3: I hope he's okay. We're recordings before the game on Monday, guys,

2339
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:15,680
Speaker 3: I hope he's okay before they start tonight. But they

2340
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 3: had to get the leftis out there, and barrenly, the

2341
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 3: Yankees limp it kind of struggles with the lefties. So

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01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 3: I feel like Mets might have started to really show

2343
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 3: cracks in the Yankee army and other teams weren't able to.

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01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm hopeful the same way. I mean,

2345
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 1: I think if the Bats come around, then we can compete. Yeah,

2346
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:33,680
Speaker 1: that's the bottom line, because when the Mets score one

2347
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:36,719
Speaker 1: of two runs, I don't have confidence I'm winning these days.

2348
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 1: Besides the one nothing win with Seve the other day.

2349
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 1: But even Seve said it himself. He said, he's like, oh,

2350
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: you just walk those guys, like the game plan is

2351
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 1: not a secret. It's like you pitch around these guys,

2352
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 1: are you welcome and you should be okay? And then

2353
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 1: you score five runs. You're not gonna lose because they're

2354
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 1: only scoring you know, one or two from those guys.

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01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 1: So I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful that that they You know,

2356
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: I would love a clean sweep for the season. I

2357
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 1: would just be glorious. I'd be crazy just rub that

2358
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:04,599
Speaker 1: in the Yankee fans for the next year.

2359
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 2: Especially because the Yankee fans are like in complete panic

2360
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 2: mode right now, and anything to make that fan base

2361
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 2: sweat just a little bit more, it brings true joy

2362
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 2: to me. That's like one of the things that is

2363
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 2: pure happiness in life is seeing Yankee fans crumble like that.

2364
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you that this guy over I keep

2365
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,679
Speaker 1: pointing over here because he could probably hear me. He's

2366
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 1: gonna tell me. I'm gonna ask him what are your

2367
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 1: thoughts going in the series, And he'd be like, oh, well,

2368
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'll be happy if we split again. You

2369
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 1: have like two of your best pictures. Like I can't

2370
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 1: even as a Gill, yeah, who was sensational until he

2371
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 1: faced the Mets, can't just be like you can't just

2372
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 1: be like complacent about I don't know, like you need

2373
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 1: to get back on track. You won't be happy if

2374
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 1: you split. You want the season series, It matters, It

2375
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:53,719
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it doesn't matter to them, because it matters.

2376
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,679
Speaker 2: Well, you know, the Yankees are dead when they stop

2377
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 2: bringing up world series, when they're like, oh, we've made

2378
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 2: the playoffs. When they start bragging about making the playoffs,

2379
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 2: that's when the franchise is dead. And that's kind of

2380
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 2: what they've been doing for the last fifteen years. They're

2381
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 2: not really obviously they want world series. I'm not gonna

2382
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 2: sy Yankee fans don't want that. But when they're bragging

2383
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 2: Chip is no longer a world series, you're like, oh,

2384
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 2: things have changed a little bit around here, and that.

2385
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 3: Doesn't make it less fun for the series, because I

2386
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 3: want Yankee fans to be maniacal, like, I want them

2387
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 3: to be insane, like I want them foaming at the

2388
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 3: mouth like they were a month ago in Queens and

2389
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 3: they got beat and now they have to pull back

2390
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 3: a little bit, pretend they don't care that much. But

2391
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 3: it really doesn't matter. We're just we're just trying to

2392
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 3: keep pace with the Orioles, you know, all we're looking

2393
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 3: every day's the Oriols. We don't care about the Mets. Yeah, sure,

2394
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 3: you don't care about the Mets. You're playing the Mets.

2395
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:34,639
Speaker 3: You should fucking care about the Mets.

2396
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 1: It's always an excuse. It always comes up, and if

2397
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,400
Speaker 1: we cry about it and then make excuses for them

2398
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, well, like but you're still on

2399
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 1: that and they're like, oh no, you just care because

2400
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm literally gonna jump out of my chair.

2401
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 1: I like banicking over here, and I know he's gonna

2402
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: say something after.

2403
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 3: I can't wait to wrap up the Mets Subway series

2404
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:58,599
Speaker 3: preview here, Zach, We're gonna put you on the spot

2405
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 3: one Mets players.

2406
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 2: Who's gonna have the biggest series for the Mets. Who's

2407
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 2: gonna step up?

2408
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 1: Oh? In Yankee Stadium? Yeah, I mean the gut always

2409
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 1: says someone like Lindor like you lean on him, especially

2410
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 1: like I feel like he's been a Subway series killer

2411
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 1: the three runs in the one game a few years ago.

2412
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 1: But I think someone sneaky could be like a Brandon

2413
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 1: Nemo And I don't know how sneaky that is, but

2414
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 1: he was hot going in the break. I don't know

2415
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 1: how he has the amount of RBIs he has batting,

2416
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: you know, first for the first part of the year

2417
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 1: and now he hits second. But I'm gonna say he

2418
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 1: has some big hits. I think that's gonna be the swinger,

2419
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 1: and Alonso is still gonna struggle a little bit and

2420
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 1: people are gonna panic, and then you know you're gonna

2421
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 1: have this talk until the trade deadline. But I think

2422
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 1: after the deadline, I think Pete hits the ground running

2423
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 1: if we still have him, and if we don't, we'll

2424
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 1: see what happens. But I'll take Nimo. I'll take Nimo,

2425
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 1: and then you know, sneaky pick. Jeff McNeil good plays. Yeah, Jeff,

2426
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 1: he plays because he had a big first game back

2427
01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 1: and hopefully he could get the back going a little bit.

2428
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 2: Zach, thank you so much for hopping on with us.

2429
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 2: Make sure you plug everything. Tell everybody what you guys

2430
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 2: do over there at Makeshift and uh, yeah, I appreciate you.

2431
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 1: For coming on. Yeah, thank you so much for having me.

2432
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 1: We're the Makeshift Project. It's me and my buddy Brian,

2433
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 1: who wasn't here today. He's a Yankee fan. He whinds

2434
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 1: as well. We're the Makeshift Project on most platforms, Makeshift

2435
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 1: Project on YouTube. We just do guessing games, top five lists,

2436
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 1: blind rankings, with a podcast about everything you didn't know

2437
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 1: you cared about That's how I best explain it. And

2438
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 1: it's just, you know, two best friends in the basement,

2439
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, chatting and making fun of each other. So

2440
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 1: go follow us, go check us out, and guys, thank

2441
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: you so much, and let's go Mets. Right, just for

2442
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: the love of God, can we just have a good

2443
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 1: end of the year.

2444
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 3: Yes, one time for the boys, one time. That'd be great.

2445
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 2: All right, guys, that's it. I think I like ended

2446
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 2: the episode weirdly after the preview.

2447
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't really know why he did

2448
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 3: that at the time too, but.

2449
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:54,799
Speaker 2: Because like I don't know, we had had a different

2450
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 2: guest on, like, not one that we were interviewing. We

2451
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 2: were just talking with him, so it was a little

2452
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 2: bit different. But uh, Zach was also good to have

2453
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 2: on with us because we're just we said to him

2454
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 2: on there, but we get so like trapped in our

2455
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 2: own baseball mind sometimes that we're just like we're not

2456
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 2: regular people, Like we're not normal people you meet in

2457
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 2: the street, like how about the Mets, Like yeah, playing, well,

2458
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 2: hope they go on.

2459
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:12,680
Speaker 1: It'll be like you.

2460
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 3: Don't even realize Christian Scots approaching his lefties.

2461
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 2: Man, yea, if we're in a bar and we're watching

2462
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 2: the Mets and we hear someone talking about the Mets

2463
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 2: in a way that like drives us nuts.

2464
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 3: We're like, oh my God, like, we gotta help him.

2465
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 2: We gotta help this guy, like, please show you the light,

2466
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 2: show you the way. We do have some reviews though,

2467
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 2: coming in. We actually have a bunch of reviews. We

2468
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:35,680
Speaker 2: have three new ones here lfg Mets Up. That was

2469
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 2: what he said. Five stars from Ed Fitzi four longtime listener.

2470
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 2: This show, along with your doppelgangers over at Shay Station,

2471
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,599
Speaker 2: is the best Mets podcast out there. Glad you guys

2472
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 2: got to live the dream working for the Mets, but

2473
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 2: are stoked now that you're back and better than ever.

2474
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 3: Appreciate it there, Ed.

2475
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:53,919
Speaker 2: We then have one from Don Marra, best Mets podcast

2476
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 2: out there, five stars, Mark and James big fan of

2477
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 2: the pod from.

2478
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 3: Binghamton, New York.

2479
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 2: Shout out to Binghamton the Big b You guys do

2480
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 2: a great job recap in the series as well giving

2481
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 2: great analysis on the state of the team in the

2482
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 2: present and future.

2483
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 3: Mark, I'm going to be a freshman at the University

2484
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 3: of South Carolina in the fall. Do you make a

2485
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 3: plan do you plan on making any trips down this year?

2486
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 3: LFGM Forever to the well Dom. If I do make

2487
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:18,679
Speaker 3: a trip down, definitely will say what's up. I'm trying

2488
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 3: to and hopefully you get one of the good dorms.

2489
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 3: Shout out Columbia Hall. Wait, I got I got the

2490
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:25,679
Speaker 3: last review. Yeah, go for it. This one was great

2491
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 3: because the good juxtaposition that last one. This kid's eighteen

2492
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 3: this one. This guy's his name is this old man

2493
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 3: loves this podcast.

2494
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 1: Nice.

2495
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 3: Tell you if you can remember the Mets Winger World Series,

2496
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 3: you're not young. If you can remember too, you're old.

2497
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 3: This guy's old. Nice Propa. I can remember too. I

2498
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 3: also remember talking sports all the time. My buddies Mark

2499
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 3: and James remind me of those days. I like the

2500
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 3: enthusiasm and positivity without cheerleading. I like they know this

2501
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 3: stuff and follow the prospects closely. If they would just

2502
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 3: talk more about Mets icon ed crane Pool, they'd be perfect.

2503
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, Propa, thank you.

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01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 1: For that review.

2505
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 3: I've gotten ed Crainenpoole thing for pro Prop.

2506
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 2: I think it might be proper Maybe, Propa Propo, I've

2507
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 2: got an ed crane pool thing for you. Okay, so

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01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 2: I was watching when I was home back in Jersey.

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01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 2: They were showing like Hank Aaron and Willie Mays talking

2510
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 2: to Bob Costas for like this spell that they had

2511
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 2: on HBO.

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01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 3: It's pretty sick, and they had like Bob.

2513
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 2: Gibson and like all the all the greatest players were

2514
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 2: in the stands talking about this, and they were going

2515
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:21,240
Speaker 2: through Willie Mays and Hank Aaron's numbers against Bob Gibson,

2516
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:23,679
Speaker 2: and as you'd imagine, not great. One of the best

2517
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 2: pictures to ever step.

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01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 1: On the mound.

2519
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 2: Right, you know who's got the Who's in the top

2520
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 2: ten for most hits ever against Bob Gibson, Ed.

2521
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 1: Ed crane Pool.

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01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 3: He hit three thirteen lifetime against Bob Gibson, A three

2523
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:41,600
Speaker 3: seventy on bass, nearly.

2524
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 2: Eight hundred ops for Ed Cranepool. That's our Ed crane

2525
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:46,720
Speaker 2: Pool love for the day he owned Bob Gibson. One

2526
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:47,599
Speaker 2: of the best pictures ever.

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01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 3: I would get that tattooed on my body if I

2528
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 3: did that against Bob Gibson. I didn't even care if

2529
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 3: it was six at bat, just tattooed, yeah, right here,

2530
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 3: right here in my arm. I tried to break here

2531
01:41:55,880 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 3: three thirteen against Bob Yes, but also just killed a

2532
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 3: housekeeping things. Thank you guys so much for support. Recently,

2533
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 3: we've been charting so much better than we ever have,

2534
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 3: like at least in the last couple of months. Also,

2535
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:10,520
Speaker 3: we got out to number five of all baseball podcasts

2536
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 3: in the UK, Great Britain, so shout the English listeners,

2537
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 3: you guys are the best we have. We we love England.

2538
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 3: This show definitely some mixed feelings of late, but we

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Speaker 3: definitely love England overall. I love England. But that was

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Speaker 3: really cool to see. Also, our YouTube video did last

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Speaker 3: week one of our best videos we've ever done. We

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Speaker 3: recapped every single Mets pick and the almby drafts. So

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Speaker 3: if you guys don't check on the YouTube channel, check

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Speaker 3: that one out.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of a teaser for those of you

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Speaker 2: who stated are along this late it might begin some

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Speaker 2: Mets draft picks on the podcast in the upcoming week here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah's true. Also, I'm not gonna mention this because the

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Speaker 3: mistakes everywhere. Yeah, I can't say. And I also met

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Speaker 3: not but we're also we're almost at nine hundred total

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Speaker 3: reviews between Apple and Spotify. If we get that to

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Speaker 3: a thousand. We'll give you guys something cool. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 3: do We'll do something giveaway. Yeah, of something that we

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01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:57,920
Speaker 3: should have been given away like months ago. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: some things that Mark Sediti did and give way. Everybody

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Speaker 3: tweet me, yell at me, give away this shit and

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Speaker 3: I'll do it tomorrow. But thank you guys for listening.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for watching. You know the drill.

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Speaker 2: Follow us on our social media at Messed Up. If

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01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 2: you're watching us YouTube Messed Up podcast, go subscribe over there.

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Speaker 2: We really do appreciate it. Listening to us Apple podcasts, Spotify.

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Speaker 3: Google Drop us Rating in Review.

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Speaker 2: Follow James on Twitter at James Underscore, and follow me

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Speaker 2: at Draffnick Mark with the c. Thank you guys for

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01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 2: listening and watching. We'll catch you after the Subway series.

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Speaker 1: Peace out,