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Speaker 1: This is a headgun podcast. Celebrity Book Club. Who's that

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Speaker 1: talk celebrity books. No boys are Alloud. Celebrity book Say

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Speaker 1: are own. Celebrity book Club with Lily end Steven. You

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Speaker 1: know it's Stephen. It's actually with Stephen and Lily. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you knew that. I did know that

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Speaker 1: with Stephen and Lily Stephen first. And it's not so

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Speaker 1: much because I don't think I get taught Billy because

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Speaker 1: a graphic design sense. The ampersand fits on the same

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Speaker 1: bubbly like that like then it no, it's better because

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Speaker 1: you don't want the long name last right then it totally.

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Speaker 1: It just it was just look weird. It was just

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Speaker 1: like weird, so totally and it's again, I do not

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Speaker 1: there's no tension here over at HQ. No, the lack

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Speaker 1: because there isn't any. There isn't any. It's chill a

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Speaker 1: f over here in our remote a lounge, super chill um. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to talk about I have never been

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Speaker 1: for me, says I've actually never been more excited to

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Speaker 1: talk about this book. Yeah. I read it as a child. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I know my father used to read this book to

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Speaker 1: me when I would be sobbing myself to sleep, just

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Speaker 1: and he would be rubbing my lower back and slow circles, going, oh, Stephen,

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Speaker 1: do you want me to read you Ricky Martin's book again?

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Speaker 1: And I'd say yes, Daddy, you go okay, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: And then he get out this big oh and this

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Speaker 1: its Yeah. No, Actually, my great grandmother, who our listeners

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Speaker 1: that's when she picked up her copy of Santiago the

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Speaker 1: Dreamer and Land among the Stars, Yeah, back in eighteen

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Speaker 1: eighty two. And she too would seek comfort in its pages.

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Speaker 1: It would lull her to sleep on cold on those cold,

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Speaker 1: windy knights. Well and dusty knights too. I've watched it

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Speaker 1: with a combination of dust and wind that was brutal

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Speaker 1: I've had such a long relationship with this book, and

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Speaker 1: I know you have as well. It is again it

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Speaker 1: is by Ricky Martin. Just want people to see King

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Speaker 1: of Latin Pop really rough their heads around that. A

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Speaker 1: he couldn't top it. He couldn't. Now came she bangs? Wait,

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Speaker 1: And it's like such a sultry candle that you see

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Speaker 1: out of friendship, Champagne. That line's kind of in the

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Speaker 1: That work makes you drink French Champagne is definitely sorry.

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Speaker 1: I dropped my phone for the nine thousandth time. Wow,

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Speaker 1: working for moment is crazy? Do you have h anyone?

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Speaker 1: Ricky Martin, Yes, he is a Latin pop star and

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Speaker 1: let all moms who are like Margarita, moms who say

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Speaker 1: and it's like watermelon sugar Yeah, I hate that. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Vienna Loca. Came out right and like you were because

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Speaker 1: Let's all also forget because he was in Minudo, which

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Speaker 1: that's been on like a world chart, and maybe we're

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Speaker 1: Santiago the Dreamer Inland among the Start. So this is

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Speaker 1: emergency Santiago reading. Yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe that's true. So

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Speaker 1: talking about, plant those seeds. Okay, So this book, So,

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Speaker 1: this book is about a child named Santiago who dreams

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Speaker 1: getting Ricky Martin vibe from data. Here's my first kind

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Speaker 1: there's like so many books about like having like IBS

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429
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435
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436
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437
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438
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Speaker 1: because these are all supposed to be metaphors for like

439
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440
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Speaker 1: He's like San Diego alto dream of becoming a baseball player,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, no, he didn't, marry didn't, babe, he

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Speaker 1: it's all of these basic He dams of being a doctor,

495
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Speaker 1: he dreams of being an astronaut. It's like these just

496
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Speaker 1: like really basic like childhood dream careers. It's actu a

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Speaker 1: very it's very fucking neoliberal. It's like, why are these

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Speaker 1: all careers? Right? Oh, he has to want to be

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Speaker 1: a doctor. All jobs? Oh, there have to be these

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Speaker 1: like money making professions that have clout in society. It's like,

501
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: can't dream of just like living with awesome roommates? Yeah,

502
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: what about living with some rad humans at a house

503
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Speaker 1: with a porch? I mean, what was your your first

504
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: job dream? Well? I always said I wanted to be

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Speaker 1: a journalist as a child, and then you did study journalism. Journalist?

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Speaker 1: Why you? And I never became such a gumshoe reporter,

507
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Speaker 1: but you know I do. I do. Some would say

508
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Speaker 1: I am a media gay. In fact, you have said that.

509
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Speaker 1: I have said that absolutely, so you are anyways, I

510
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Speaker 1: am an It's true. Yeah, I know. I remember even

511
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: at like age five or six or something, I was

512
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Speaker 1: just like, Mom, what's the best school for journalism? And

513
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Speaker 1: she was like, oh, the Columbia Journalism School is the

514
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Speaker 1: best school for journalism. And then I was just like,

515
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Speaker 1: I want to go to the Columbia School of Journalism.

516
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: And then that dream sort of like talk about neolib

517
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Speaker 1: dreams of childhood and well, you ask job No. I mean,

518
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Speaker 1: that's the thing about this book is he's having an

519
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Speaker 1: actual like dream in a bed, like he's having a

520
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Speaker 1: night dream where I'm just like this Dad's style is

521
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Speaker 1: also very like Bonabos. It's also a little ever lane

522
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Speaker 1: that top, but I guess the difference. I know it

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Speaker 1: could be an everlane top for sure, the kind of

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Speaker 1: like mustard tan crewneck sweatshirt. Sorry just to and I

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Speaker 1: do want to We'll circle back to the to the

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Speaker 1: crew neeck in a minute. But I wanted to just

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Speaker 1: add an addendum onto my childhood dream, my other really

528
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Speaker 1: big dream that was like a daydream that I would

529
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Speaker 1: return to often and like really populate and like build

530
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Speaker 1: out with details. Was that I owned an estate that

531
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Speaker 1: was essentially the size of Rhode Island, and it was

532
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Speaker 1: like this working Noliday house. It was. It was like

533
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Speaker 1: it was like actually like its own like autonomous zone,

534
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Speaker 1: and like we had relationships with the US government. That

535
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Speaker 1: was like basically like to understand that, like I was

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Speaker 1: my own nation state, and like I produced it was

537
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Speaker 1: very Kineva. There were vineyards so like people, and our

538
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: wine was known for being like really good in the

539
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Speaker 1: wine industry, but like we also had a lot of

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Speaker 1: other like light industry. You had an amazing vineyard on

541
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Speaker 1: yours day. Okay, you have to tell the story about

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Speaker 1: the game you would play with your parents, the wine

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Speaker 1: list game. Oh or I would just I would. I

544
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Speaker 1: would take the wine list when it came to the

545
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Speaker 1: dinner table and I would read random bottles and I

546
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Speaker 1: would make them guess the prices. Age five Classic. You

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Speaker 1: were like Mommy shinin blanc Sonoma ninety two and you go, oh, Doug,

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Speaker 1: what do you think. I think? I think seventy four

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Speaker 1: and to go oh no, no, no, no, no no no,

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Speaker 1: right now I'm thinking ninety eight, maybe hundred. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was well, I don't know, I got such a

552
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Speaker 1: kick out of that. I well, I love prices, you know,

553
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Speaker 1: I love you love prices, you love wine, you love

554
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Speaker 1: wine lists, and I love the idea of people buying things.

555
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: The drama of a wine list too. I mean a

556
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: wine list is such a dramatic piece of work, especially when,

557
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: like as a kid, you'd see it being brought over

558
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Speaker 1: to your parents and you're looking at this crazy list

559
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Speaker 1: and you're like, so, what are we doing here? I mean,

560
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: come up to this, sanjo VESI this? Um. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: that was my what was your what was your dream job? Well,

562
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: I mean we've discussed obviously hotel yer, but earlier on

563
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: first one was just construction worker, just like butch stuff.

564
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: And then professional baseball player, right, you like did because

565
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 1: you have some drawings that allude to that. Yeah. So

566
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, no, I'm absolutely getting in

567
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: the MLB. And then I was like, okay, maybe I'll

568
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Speaker 1: own the first women's basketball team prew NBA. That's so

569
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 1: cool that it was because I was like, well, you

570
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: can't be professionally. So her friend Dan, the owner of

571
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: the Magic portis law. Yeah. So it got kind of entrepreneurial.

572
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: Then we got hotel, then we got fashion designer. But

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Speaker 1: I wanted to share a super dark, like daydream fantasy

574
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Speaker 1: I would have as a kid that I feel like

575
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: was daydream, a day fantasy, day fantasy. Y'all know when

576
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Speaker 1: you have a day fantasy, your eyes are open, your

577
00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: eyes are wide open. You're just thinking I would have this, Like,

578
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: I mean, fantasy is extreme, but sure it's called that

579
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: that I would get stabbed live of course, but and

580
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: everyone would be so worried about me and like phusit

581
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: me in the hospital and like but also I think

582
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: I was so badass for getting stabbed. Yeah, yeah, I

583
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: bet you did. Yeah yeah. I mean that's sort of

584
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: like this like classic like um, you know, look at me,

585
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: m victimology, you know, complex where it's just like you

586
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: want you want the attention and you want the you

587
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: want to rep this sort of like the street cred

588
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: element of it. And I feel like, I'm sure I

589
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: saw some TV show where it's like you're like a stabbing.

590
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: It's like dangerous, but it's like you're definitely surviving, you know. Yeah,

591
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: I mean I always have this fantasy of falling gravely

592
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: ill in all my exes like coming to my side.

593
00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: I mean, like we were wrong. That's like, um, when eat,

594
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: Pray love? When is her name? When Elizabeth Idol Elizabeth Gilbert,

595
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: when she was with her butch Elizabeth Elizabeth Gilbert's um

596
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: rip butch lover was dying of Riyah dying of cancer,

597
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Gilbert and Riyah's X did like an interpretive dance

598
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: like around her and posted that on Instagram. All right,

599
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: that's what you want. What's the dance? Just kind of

600
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: all around are coming one by one, just like one

601
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: by one, just being like I still love you and

602
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely in love with a great mistake. Um. I

603
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: hope that happens for you. I hope it happens for

604
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: me too. Yes, we're both at this hospital. I'm stabbed.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever grave filledness? We still have to record

606
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: um wow, really fighting? Want to talk about Wen't even

607
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: got halfway through this book. Okay, yeah, okay, let's do this.

608
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: Let's I have some borshed to eat. Um. Okay, So

609
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: basically what happens is, yeah, he has this fake room

610
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: up being a baseball player. We know that's not real.

611
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: So then he decides, so this is the part the

612
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: like little like plot hook that I just find very

613
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: weird from Rickey Martin where he's like Santiago was excited

614
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: about his dream and decided to practice as if he

615
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: got the lead. So he just basically starts like rehearsing

616
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: the leads role like he's an understudy, but he was

617
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: hears being an understudy, but he's like not the understudy.

618
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: He just he was like, I'm just gonna like because

619
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Speaker 1: my dad told me to like reach for the moon,

620
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: and then I had this dream about being like a

621
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Speaker 1: teacher in an airline pilot, I am going to pretend

622
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Speaker 1: to be the other door study and then why not.

623
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's such actors advice that like I

624
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: agree with you on that one, and it's actress if

625
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, be about the you know, soak

626
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: up the place, soak up every line, you know, clean

627
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: the stage after everyone goes home, like you know, breathe

628
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: the theater, like you know, like just hoover up everything

629
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: you can about the craft. So I get that, but

630
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's not totally saying that. It's like

631
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's not the argument he's making the argument.

632
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Speaker 1: It's just been like he just randomly decided to practice

633
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Speaker 1: if you got to leave, but maybe it is that.

634
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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, of course, somehow, you know,

635
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: the book kind of wraps up pretty quickly and it

636
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: is like yeah, and then actually the person who was

637
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: like the star randomly couldn't sing. So he's like, I

638
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: know the part, and he does it, and he sings

639
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: and he does well, and his gay dad is like, see,

640
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: if you're enough of a gay bitch that you like

641
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: won the play, and it's just like, well, it's convenient,

642
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: and it's just like, so was it just the one performance?

643
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: Was there not like a Saturday show? Is there a matinee? Right? GBD?

644
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: I guess on the matinee of the school. And then

645
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: it's like he's like, Daddy, like you taught me the

646
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: most important lesson that sometimes when you reach for the moon,

647
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: you can land among the stars. Where it's like the

648
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: subtext of this book is like so much more evil

649
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: and gay, where it's like I feel like this devil, devil,

650
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: devilish gay child, like gay child he like poisoned the

651
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: other kid in the class. And he's like, oh, randomly

652
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: the star of the play couldn't sing I'll do it. No,

653
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: it's so that Isabelle who Pair movie like The Piano Teacher,

654
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: where she puts broken glass in the like pockets of

655
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: the overcoat of this like girl she's trying to sabotage,

656
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: and then she puts her hands her pocket. Then she

657
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: can like never lit piano again, and her like hands

658
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: are horribly cut up. I need to watch that. That

659
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: movie is so insane. It's a it's a classic psychosexual

660
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: isabel Who Pair. I know, I can't believe I've never

661
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: seen that movie. Throw it on the list. Throw it

662
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: on the list for your recovery. Yeah, recovery flicks. Um yeah,

663
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: so wraps up. And then there's Ricky Martin in his

664
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: everline slash Bona Bows. It's very like, Wow, the dad

665
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: like gave this one pep talk, And I say, it's

666
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: kind of an unrealistic portrayal of how easy it is

667
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: to be dad, because it's not that easy. Thank you.

668
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: Parenthood is hard. Okay, Yeah, it's really rewarding. I was

669
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: just gonna say that it's so rewarding. And on that note,

670
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: let's move to segments. She eats, she lives, she lives,

671
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: she segments segments. Okay, good enough. Yeah, what does she Okay,

672
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: so are we doing this about the Dad in Santiago

673
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: the dreams Mary Martin. Okay, let's do both though, no,

674
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: like yeah, literally, let's do about the dad in Santiago.

675
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: Let's do the Dad and Santiago and Ricky Martin. Another

676
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: hour goes by, Okay, what does she wear? Are you aware?

677
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: For us? Okay, we talked about the Everlaine and the Bonnabos.

678
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: I mean Ricky Martin's his style's sexier than sexy. He's

679
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: always in like a sexy queen sweater. That's like it's

680
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: a very like not Christian girl autumn sweater. It's like

681
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: a Miami Ugs Girls Springs sweater. Yeah, it's like he

682
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: has like d's in the sweaters he's wearing like it

683
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: captures he's pecky, feeling peckish. Oh yeah, I'm feeling real peckish.

684
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: He's still working like very tight pants, tight pants, unless

685
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm so wrong, He's wearing like such like sexy kind

686
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: of like loose carpet or stuff, because like now he

687
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: has a painter boyfriend. Well, don't you think Sometimes he's

688
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: wearing an incredibly tight shirt and just like Army cargo

689
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: is in like a FURGI way well doing errands I wish,

690
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: but I feel because here's the thing, and this is

691
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: going to lead into how does he lived? But he

692
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: is a full up design gay now, Like he may

693
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: have been a like cheesy Miami like crossover star in

694
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, but like now he is a

695
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: full up like coastal design gay. He owns his own

696
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: island off of Brazil. That's so so. I also think

697
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 1: Ricky Martin is like nude a lot on his island.

698
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: In Speedo's also the island, he's nude. But I feel

699
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: like his La house and I have I'm gonna admit

700
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: having cheat because I saw his ad video like not recently,

701
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: like years ago, but like it's an insane like such

702
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: a concrete house with like so many cantilever doors, and

703
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: it's just like in so many Japanese basins, and just

704
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: like how it sounds like a mix of Ellen's houses.

705
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: It is such a mix of valence houses. And it's

706
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: like he's been like walking through the house with his

707
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: painter boyfriend just being like and this is like a

708
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: Jean Golbert and this is a Prouvet and and like

709
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: this is like a Sterling Winson and just like pointing

710
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: out every piece of like art design, furniture, painting, chandelier,

711
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: like weird sculpture. So that's why I think he could

712
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: be so kind of almost like nice straight like jeans,

713
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: boots like Chelsea boots, maybe even tims and like unlike

714
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: an expensive long sleeve. Yes, and then maybe the boyfriend

715
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: I think is kind of I think they're very verse. Yeah,

716
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: for sure, I mean with that, but with that, yeah,

717
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,479
Speaker 1: I mean not rump. You gotta get into that romp

718
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: if you're the husband. But Ricky Martin's also like such

719
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: top because he's like here, he's so successful and he's yea,

720
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: it doesn't have maybe so much of the time to

721
00:42:54,840 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: prep sometimes for bottoming. Thank you for acknowledge, Jeam, the

722
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: prep work that goes into bottom guys. Yeah, I really

723
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: appreciate you raising awareness for that issue in our community.

724
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: He's awareness for prep, not the pill. Yeah, we've got

725
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: we've got enough awareness for prep at this point. Um,

726
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: do you agree with me? Or I feel like you're

727
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: sha of my like Tim. But it's also the celebrity

728
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: where they just wear one shoes and throw them out.

729
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: So I'm like sure, one day he's in a bomber

730
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: and Tim's and straight leg James and like he's the

731
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: next day he's in linen pants and shirtless, and then

732
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: next day he's in a thong, right and like all

733
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: of yeah, going to be incinerated. I could Yeah, okay,

734
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: this big concrete incinerator, it's aerator. This just game to me.

735
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: And what is he I don't think he drinks red

736
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: one because you don't think he must like spill on

737
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: all of his like fancy surfaces and his Yeah, all

738
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: it's over just like celeb like he drinks like champagne

739
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: and then like sometimes like just like the finest to

740
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: kill it in the world, and like that's it. I

741
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: a hundred percent agree with you, Like on the friggin nose.

742
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, that makes so many. It's so so many.

743
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: It's like because it's like the Beyonce thing where it's

744
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: like that story about that I think like was it

745
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: was that a Cindy Washington story or was it a

746
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: completely different story? Oh the Sydney Washington. Yes, when they're

747
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: at like where Beyonce is just like sipping one drink

748
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: so slowly over the course of like three hours at

749
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: the club because like, yeah, ever gets drunk. Those are

750
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: so many and I know Thendy Washington's Instagram bottle girls stories. Yeah,

751
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: I think he's like having like a Naho whatever, like

752
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: a Naho want two hundred. Yeah, like a Naho eighteen

753
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: o five And it's like so sent in and like

754
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: and maybe he has like a fridge where there's just

755
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: like one hundred bottles of Anaho eighteen oh five. Right,

756
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: it's like tequila. Yeah, it's just a fridge. And when

757
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: they when they have fun and when just like they're

758
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: like fourteen other like creepy design gay couples come over

759
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: to their concrete mansion for drinks. Six of the couples

760
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: are doing G later and like yeah, oh yeah, I

761
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: guess I'm going to bed. Yeah, they're going to bed,

762
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't think rinking his husband are doing G

763
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: but like obviously they're design gay friends. Are Are they

764
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: at the concrete house? Are they leaving the house before

765
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: they go to there? Are? Yeah? They doing it on

766
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: his private island. Maybe they just fully are and maybe

767
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: they're just like doing it. They must be having like

768
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: coke and just massive like orgies in the massive island

769
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: in the island and like the nanny is with the

770
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: kids and like a whole other house. When they do

771
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: this like once a year, they just like it's a

772
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: fuck fest. I think it's the one thing we were

773
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: fuck fest. But then like every few weeks, like six

774
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: couples are coming over for someone a casual, asual fuck fast.

775
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: And then he's like in Australia filiping the boys for

776
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: six months. Yeah, and and is the Syrian painter. He's

777
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: having a fuck fest. And then Ricky's a little bit pissed. Yeah,

778
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: but not that best because he's getting his when he's

779
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: shooting the voice and like a sound stage in Sydney,

780
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: getting his dick sucked in Sydney. Sure he is, sure

781
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: he is not that had he's going bach, Okay, who

782
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: are you? In the book, we'd only say what he eats,

783
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: but wait, what is he? Okay, so we did kind

784
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: of what he drinks. I mean it's again celeb like sleb,

785
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: just like there's a huge he wakes up by there's

786
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 1: like so many guavas that have already been halved, like

787
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: waiting for him to take one bite of then some

788
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: almonds and then like power bowl up. Yeah, no, thank

789
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: you for saying that like non stop a sigh. Do

790
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: you think the Syrian Swedish painter is a vegetarian? No,

791
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: I think he is having like lamb the painter he's

792
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: like Ricky, sit down. I don't know what this saccent is.

793
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: He's like ricky my Swedish accent Ricky Syrian Swedish is raspy. Ye,

794
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: ricky Ricky sit down. I mean my lamb like in

795
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: my famous lamb for you get over here? Okay, nailed it? Um?

796
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: Who are you in the book? Who are you in

797
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: the book? I'm the star of the play who lost

798
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: his voice the night before. Yeah, and your Santiago, I'm

799
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: Santiago just like being this. I guess I just feel

800
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: like I actually don't do the work so that I

801
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't be like understudying so hard. That is kind I

802
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: feel like that's not me. Maybe no, okay, so I

803
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: don't think I would like elect to just learn someone

804
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: else those lines. Yeah, that was off of me. Sorry,

805
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: you're more. I think the star of the play who

806
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: loses his voice? Who are you are? Are you like

807
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: a little kid in the back who's like wearing the

808
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: tree costume. Yeah, I'm just like got a random part

809
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: a non singing role. I guess I'm the baseball player

810
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: in the dream. I'm Santiago dreaming to be a baseball player.

811
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: But you, but you, I guess you did. You did

812
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: play a little bit of baseball. I played a lot

813
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: of baseball. Dare you? I was on Little League for years?

814
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: Are you the fossil in the paleontologist dream? How dare you?

815
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: How freaking dare you call me old? I'm two months

816
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: away from my birthday. It's a far away. Really fat, hey,

817
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: wicked fat. We got months and months. We got months

818
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: to go. Um, and I'm sure you will make it

819
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: to thirty five number number. I'm shaking right now. I

820
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: think I have to go. Good thing. The POD's over. Um. Yeah,

821
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: so I want to say that. I mean, I'm gonna

822
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: go ahead and give this book one out of five

823
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: annual orgies at my concrete mansion. If I had an awesome,

824
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: tiny human to read books too, I just don't think

825
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: I'd be grabbing for this one first. This would be

826
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: one of the last books I would grab. Illustrations also boring,

827
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: Like it's boring, okay, the next children's book. My family

828
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: every year we read a children's Christmas book by Carly

829
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: Simon called Boy of the Bells. So look forward to that,

830
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: club kids. Oh that's great. You can take that week

831
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: off because sounds like you've already read it. Yeah, be

832
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: a good Chris. I got other work to do at Christmas,

833
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying. I got things to deliver. Oh,

834
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: Miss clauses Mixa got a lot of chimneys just stuff

835
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: herself into. But yeah, that's another random children's book that's

836
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: way more detailed um written by a singer. So yeah,

837
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: I also give this one school play out of five.

838
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: Theater kids. Try harder next time, Ricky, Ricky, Yeah, come on,

839
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: come on, Ricky. Put a muscle into it. Put some

840
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: of that famous rampant it. Next time. He's too relaxed

841
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: on that private island. Yeah no, there's too much pre

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