Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. Okay, we're back.
Speaker 1: So my friend Amy and I did.
Speaker 2: Secrets of the Manner and they did very well those
Speaker 2: those podcast episodes.
Speaker 3: I know we need to bring that back. This is
Speaker 3: this is what. It's a little different, but we need
Speaker 3: to do another Secret of the Manner. Emotions of the Manner.
Speaker 1: I have to find mine.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, So recently my parents' house, which it's the
Speaker 2: second time it's sold.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. This one just hit me different.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you, is this just the second time?
Speaker 3: So your mom sold it to that woman and then
Speaker 3: that woman sold it to the Google guy.
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 3: Okay, so I thought there might have been one more
Speaker 3: in between.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, no, So I think when it first sold,
Speaker 2: I was really I hadn't processed all my emotions, and
Speaker 2: I was just like, okay, this is good for my
Speaker 2: mom because she wanted to downsize and she moved to
Speaker 2: the man Did.
Speaker 3: She stay there? Sorry to interrupt you, how long did
Speaker 3: she stay there after my dad passed away?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think, I know, you know what. I
Speaker 2: believe she moved in like two thousand and.
Speaker 1: Ten.
Speaker 3: Maybe when did your dad pass away two thousand and six,
Speaker 3: So she did she live there for years without him?
Speaker 2: She did, the timeline might be a little different. I
Speaker 2: just remember when she had sold it, she was moving,
Speaker 2: or maybe before she sold it, she was moving.
Speaker 1: I brought Liam and Stella.
Speaker 2: We were filming Tori and Dean, so it's in one
Speaker 2: of the episodes, and they were little, and I still
Speaker 2: have pictures of like, you know, they were like two
Speaker 2: and three, which I tell them now they were there
Speaker 2: and they don't remember, sadly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they were like two and three when
Speaker 1: she moved. So do you.
Speaker 3: Remember like going over there, like were there? Okay, this
Speaker 3: is a weird question, but like do you think there
Speaker 3: was ever a time when your mom was the only
Speaker 3: person in that house sleeping? Or was there always staff there?
Speaker 1: Security and security? And that'd be really scary to be
Speaker 1: in that house alone.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, I mean it would be like being in
Speaker 3: a like Hyatt hotel by yourself, ish kind of Do
Speaker 3: you remember still having holidays and stuff there? Like did
Speaker 3: you still have holidays and with disgivings and Christmases there
Speaker 3: without your dad?
Speaker 1: Correct? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And was that hard?
Speaker 2: I remember specifically? I don't know if we did holidays
Speaker 2: because by that.
Speaker 1: Time we had our own family right.
Speaker 2: Good a town a lot for Thanksgiving, but Christmas my
Speaker 2: mom still had. I can vividly remember my mom's Christmas
Speaker 2: Eve party that was super famous. She always had it
Speaker 2: with my dad and she. I remember going Stella was
Speaker 2: I was holding Stell in my arm, so she was
Speaker 2: under a year and Liam and going to I think
Speaker 2: that was her and I. In one of my books,
Speaker 2: I wrote about it. It was amazing, and my brother
Speaker 2: was there and Dean and I and Liam and Stella
Speaker 2: and it was like this, it was such an amazing
Speaker 2: Christmas Eve party. I think that might have been her
Speaker 2: last one.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 3: Wow, did your dad ever meet any of your kids? No?
Speaker 2: I know he passed away in June and I got
Speaker 2: pregnant with Liam in July.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, of two thousand and six.
Speaker 3: So when your mom decided to sell the house, how
Speaker 3: did that feel? Did you try to say? No, don't like,
Speaker 3: because what you and I had been texting about the
Speaker 3: sort of the impetus for this episode is I was like,
Speaker 3: why didn't you guys keep it in the family and
Speaker 3: make it like a great nound? Like I know that
Speaker 3: sounds a little crazy, but it's not that crazy.
Speaker 2: When you texted that to me, I got chills, And
Speaker 2: when you just said it, I got chills.
Speaker 1: Again. I don't know, and I don't remember.
Speaker 2: You have to keep in mind also, and you know
Speaker 2: my history that a lot of times in my family
Speaker 2: we love each There was a lot of love, but
Speaker 2: we didn't always talk about emotions or what was happening.
Speaker 1: And that kind of was the same thing.
Speaker 2: I don't think when my mom told us that she
Speaker 2: was selling it or moving that either my brother or
Speaker 2: I asked. I mean, I think it was just in
Speaker 2: our minds. You know, it was too big for her alone.
Speaker 3: Correct, it's totally bananas. If she kept it and lived
Speaker 3: there by herself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, and I'm sure it had a
Speaker 2: lot of pain connected to it because she had lost
Speaker 2: my dad, so.
Speaker 1: She totally a fresh start.
Speaker 3: I totally get that.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the manner.
Speaker 2: In the sky is what she calls the condos, and
Speaker 2: it's the top floor, okay, and it is decorated as
Speaker 2: a replica of the manor.
Speaker 1: It's just a condo.
Speaker 3: So she took everything and sort of put it in
Speaker 3: the exact same places so that she feels like she's
Speaker 3: there if yeah, wow, but it's a lot smaller. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 3: even if it's a lot of ten square feet, what
Speaker 3: was the manner fifty six?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was fifty six thousand, And I
Speaker 2: just remember when my kids went.
Speaker 1: Over to her condo the Manner in the sky, They're like,
Speaker 1: why does grandma live in a hotel? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like no, I'm like, what would you have thought if
Speaker 1: you had a condo the manor? Oh my god?
Speaker 3: Totally right when they were this age. So, I mean, look,
Speaker 3: it would have been cool to keep it, inde, way
Speaker 3: to keep it, and she still didn't have to live there.
Speaker 3: That being said, the upkeep would be the cost of
Speaker 3: having that house would be in the millions a year.
Speaker 3: I mean millions and millions and millions. Like it's insane.
Speaker 3: I don't even want to think about what the DWP
Speaker 3: bill was.
Speaker 2: I this is stuff we didn't think about. But now
Speaker 2: being an adult and dealing with my own bills, I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, it had to have been wild.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine? I sometimes get a DWP bill and
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's four hundred dollars. I mean that bill
Speaker 3: must have been hundreds of thousands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it had to have been.
Speaker 2: My mom's going to be eighty this year, And I
Speaker 2: think for her she did was superhands on, like literally
Speaker 2: with everything. It was a lot, you know, she had
Speaker 2: people helping her, but of course she knew everything happening
Speaker 2: and every bill and everything in that.
Speaker 3: Really Oh yes, yes, yes, So do you think like
Speaker 3: back in the day, like I'm and I'm sure there
Speaker 3: was somebody, but like it was your mom, not your dad,
Speaker 3: being like okay, let me open the gas bill, let's
Speaker 3: see what the cable bill is, or did somebody do that?
Speaker 1: I mean there was always a business manager.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be insane, probably.
Speaker 2: Till they got that when they first got together. For
Speaker 2: sure it was my mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my mom.
Speaker 2: She dealt with like the stock market, she dealt with
Speaker 2: when his company went public, like she dealt with everyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the business stuff. Whoa.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the first time because I thought about.
Speaker 1: The man at home and at his work.
Speaker 3: I thought about the man and probably more than a
Speaker 3: person should. But I never until this very moment thought
Speaker 3: about the bills at the manor like you haven't either
Speaker 3: till you know it's that it would be insane, like
Speaker 3: think about our own bills we have right now, and
Speaker 3: we're like, oh God, don't play the insurance like it
Speaker 3: was a running a hotel.
Speaker 1: It was running a hotel. Yeah, WHOA.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if there would have been a
Speaker 2: way to keep it in the family without the constant bleeding.
Speaker 3: It would have to be a museum. You'd have to
Speaker 3: turn it into some sort of a museum in some way,
Speaker 3: because otherwise, like you would just be flushing money down
Speaker 3: the toilet. Would not make sense. So when the house
Speaker 3: sold to that lady, I can't think of her name.
Speaker 3: I wanted to say. Her name was Petra, Petra Egglestein, Okay,
Speaker 3: When the house sold to her, what did you feel?
Speaker 3: Can you remember, like did you feel sad? Did you
Speaker 3: feel relief? Did you feel like whatever, it's a house.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 2: I felt nothing at the time. I think I was
Speaker 2: just like that house didn't mean anything to me. It
Speaker 2: turned into almost a place of sadness because it's where
Speaker 2: my dad got sick and yeah, you know, slowly dying,
Speaker 2: and and you know, I just have the memory of
Speaker 2: the last time I saw him in that house and
Speaker 2: he wasn't well. And then you know, after his funeral,
Speaker 2: everyone came back to the manor.
Speaker 3: By the way, I've never asked you about the funeral.
Speaker 3: Was it like a pagan of the stars?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Or did you make it private?
Speaker 1: I wasn't a part of doing it. I just attended.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but like, was Heather locklay there.
Speaker 1: Or like it was very very small?
Speaker 3: Was there ever, like the Aaron Spelling tribute special on ABC?
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying? Like they would do now?
Speaker 2: There wasn't, so there was ABC wanted to do one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and at the time.
Speaker 1: They after he passed, they had reached.
Speaker 2: Out to me and wanted to know if I wanted
Speaker 2: to host it, and I thought that would be a
Speaker 2: great tribute to my dad. I mean, at one point
Speaker 2: everyone who called it the Aaron Broadcasting Company, like it
Speaker 2: would be appropriate for ABC to honor him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you still can incorporate all the like
Speaker 3: right you know, oh Melrose, Like you know shows that
Speaker 3: weren't necess early on ABC.
Speaker 2: It was I had met my dad his memoir that
Speaker 2: he had done. I had met with them with the
Speaker 2: person that wrote it, and and they had producers and
Speaker 2: writers brought on to do it. Because it was really
Speaker 2: important to me that the tribute be really great and
Speaker 2: reach out to the right people, and my family all
Speaker 2: involved and all of the people he loved, his stars
Speaker 2: and stuff. Anyway, it was in the works, and then
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, but I was just told
Speaker 2: that for some reason, they can't move forward with it,
Speaker 2: and it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: It made me really sad because I was like, I
Speaker 1: need some tribute to my dad.
Speaker 2: And then I had heard talks there was going to
Speaker 2: be a big memorial so all his you know, stars
Speaker 2: could come or something done in la and that never
Speaker 2: happened either.
Speaker 1: Oh. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I tend to go towards Everyone handles grief in a
Speaker 2: different way.
Speaker 3: And I'm your mom is still to this day just
Speaker 3: so sad she is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the love of her life.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think she likes that she can travel now because
Speaker 2: my mom sure loves her adventure and doing not adventure,
Speaker 2: but like she loved travel and she wasn't able.
Speaker 3: To How old was your dad when he passed away? Two? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Eighty two eighty two?
Speaker 2: Yes, oh no, And I truly believe he when he
Speaker 2: was going into you know how they say you live
Speaker 2: longer when you keep doing what you love. Yeah, when
Speaker 2: he was going into the studio and going into work
Speaker 2: in his office.
Speaker 1: You know, he was doing a lot better.
Speaker 2: And then he was working from home and it just
Speaker 2: you know, he had cancer and he went into remission.
Speaker 2: Doctor Piro was his cancer doctor, who was also SHO
Speaker 2: so he was He's always been a blessing to everyone
Speaker 2: I love. Yeah, but you know, he recovered from that
Speaker 2: from throp cancer. He came back and he was back
Speaker 2: at work.
Speaker 3: And this is in his seventies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he started to have signs.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it was completely diagnosed of dementia,
Speaker 2: but I got to say when I would talk to him,
Speaker 2: he was still sharp as attack. He knew everything. Maybe
Speaker 2: look and then he had a stroke.
Speaker 3: We all done our age? Does this? What's normal memory loss? Versus?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean we're all googling that, like and if you
Speaker 3: say you are, you are, like we I do. I've
Speaker 3: googled that many many times. Same and like there is
Speaker 3: normal the thing I don't know, there's you know, even menopause.
Speaker 3: We have these things. So it's so hard to know.
Speaker 3: But it's still just as what's the word, It's like
Speaker 3: it's painful, it's scary. You're like it's scary when it's
Speaker 3: happening to you, or a parent or a grandparent or
Speaker 3: any you're just like, ah, it's just the anxiety.
Speaker 2: So I think we knew, Like my brother and I
Speaker 2: knew when he was bedridden every single day and there
Speaker 2: was a nurse the home, right and he was just
Speaker 2: not connected anymore really with yeah, work and what drove
Speaker 2: him in life, we knew it was.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, So okay, I mean we're going two
Speaker 3: things because I think when we talk about the manner,
Speaker 3: so much of it is really about your dad, right
Speaker 3: of course, your whole family, your mom.
Speaker 1: So do you think of your dad like every day?
Speaker 1: I do? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, So now we get into what that means in
Speaker 3: conjunction with the house. So when it's sold, obviously the
Speaker 3: first time to Petra, it's like, oh, the Spelling sold
Speaker 3: their house. When it sold this time, every single thing
Speaker 3: is the Spelling manner has now been sold to the Google.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: It's not like this Petra woman. It's I didn't see
Speaker 3: one thing where it said this Petra Mahosi Solder house
Speaker 3: to the Google guy. It's always Spelling man or Tory Spelling,
Speaker 3: Aaron Spelling's house. So the second round, what would the emotions.
Speaker 2: I'm not and that's what I thought you could probably
Speaker 2: help me get through this. I'm not sure why it's
Speaker 2: coming out, and it could be just repression from never
Speaker 2: completely dealing with my dad's death. I suppressed emotions with
Speaker 2: that the last two years, going through divorce and the
Speaker 2: kids and moving and I just I don't emote and
Speaker 2: I hold it in. And I don't know. When this came,
Speaker 2: it was like weird. It was like displaced. It was
Speaker 2: like I was grieving for my dad, but through the
Speaker 2: selling of this house for the second time, this.
Speaker 3: Time felt like it almost landed on you more.
Speaker 2: I described it as when I was talking about it
Speaker 2: on the podcast recently, as an elephant sitting on my chest.
Speaker 1: And that's yeah. And I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't and I and they're turning it into so
Speaker 2: it's going to be for nonprofit and for events.
Speaker 3: What is doing with it? So it's like going to
Speaker 3: be a museum kind of.
Speaker 1: I don't know. What I read online was he's not
Speaker 1: going to live there. No one's going to live there.
Speaker 1: They're using it.
Speaker 2: So it kind of works with what you said of
Speaker 2: perhaps when my mom sold it, what if she had
Speaker 2: turned it into an event space, amusing.
Speaker 3: I mean, he bought it for a hundred and ten million,
Speaker 3: allegedly according to fifty thousand articles.
Speaker 1: Right, whoa, it's bigger.
Speaker 3: Than the taj Mahal. So I mean, now, would you
Speaker 3: ever pop him a note? Why not?
Speaker 1: He's not going to see that, like slide into his DN.
Speaker 3: No, but I'm sure there's some way like you could
Speaker 3: find him. And if you, first of all, I think
Speaker 3: you should like and what would you say? Say it?
Speaker 3: I mean say it here? What would you want to
Speaker 3: say to him?
Speaker 2: First of all, I think it's it was never fit
Speaker 2: for a family unless you're having multiple families live there,
Speaker 2: multi you know, and it could multi generations. Of course,
Speaker 2: it's so huge, you could have your own space, you know.
Speaker 2: I used to joke my brother could have his own
Speaker 2: wing for his family. I could have my own wing
Speaker 2: for my.
Speaker 3: Kids and thirty five other families. Exactly bananas, Like, it's
Speaker 3: just bananas.
Speaker 2: I always wanted to like make it into an Airbnb
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 1: Or a hotel or a hotel.
Speaker 3: Probably not like you probably could. It's probably not zoned
Speaker 3: for a hotel, okay, So anyway.
Speaker 1: So I would I know, I'm not. I'm not. I
Speaker 1: would say to him that now.
Speaker 2: That my kids are grown, they never got to meet
Speaker 2: their grandfather, They never really got to be in that home.
Speaker 2: I am happy that he's doing it to use for
Speaker 2: nonprofits and for events and doing things like that, and
Speaker 2: I would I would just say from a heartfelt place,
Speaker 2: if there's any way I could ever come with my kids,
Speaker 2: I would love to have one moment in time there
Speaker 2: again that they'll never like a tight experience.
Speaker 3: Write this exactly. I'm certain we can find a way.
Speaker 3: I can't say that he's gonna do it, but like
Speaker 3: if I were him, I would do it. I forget
Speaker 3: what documentary there was where the person Why can't I
Speaker 3: remember what documentary it was where they go to their
Speaker 3: home and the person musk she did there's another one too,
Speaker 3: because I haven't seen that there's another one in the
Speaker 3: person's like, yeah, come, I can't remember who it was,
Speaker 3: but you definitely should do that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Interesting little tidbit. I didn't realize until this that Petra ecclestone.
Speaker 3: Ecclestone is part of Formula one, which I wouldn't like.
Speaker 3: I probably have read that before, but until the Brad
Speaker 3: Pitt movie, I would have been like, I don't really
Speaker 3: know what that is, but I'm assuming it's F one
Speaker 3: Formula one racing.
Speaker 1: Did you watch this video?
Speaker 3: There's some Architectural Digest video.
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 3: I don't I'm gonna watch it after we talk. There's
Speaker 3: like a video on TV. Oh yeah, it says ad
Speaker 3: when did they go there?
Speaker 1: I don't remember that.
Speaker 3: Want to watch this. So, Torri, why would you not
Speaker 3: send him that note?
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, and you and I have talked about
Speaker 1: this before it's sold. We had talked.
Speaker 2: About, you know, getting a tour made from the real
Speaker 2: turn Yeah, and I never followed.
Speaker 1: Through on that.
Speaker 2: I don't know what was keeping me, and I think
Speaker 2: it just was never the like when Petro bought it,
Speaker 2: Like I could have reached out to her and tried
Speaker 2: to That would have been an easier thing. Remember when
Speaker 2: Ben and Jen were together and supposedly we're going to.
Speaker 3: Buy it, h I sure do not.
Speaker 1: They were.
Speaker 2: That was a big thing in the press.
Speaker 3: I really want you to watch this video. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: text it to you right now.
Speaker 2: I just feel like it's harder now, but it's definitely
Speaker 2: the right time in my life now as I'm making
Speaker 2: so many changes in my personal life in the last
Speaker 2: two years. It is the right time for me and
Speaker 2: my kids to now go. And of course the head
Speaker 2: of your Google owns it, so it's like impossible to
Speaker 2: reach him.
Speaker 3: Wait is it Mapleton Drive? They just gave the address
Speaker 3: on this thing.
Speaker 2: I saw five nine four and they said he's monetizing it.
Speaker 2: So it's no longer gonna be known as the Manner.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be known as five niney four.
Speaker 3: Oh that's hurt a little bit, is it hurt? You
Speaker 3: need to watch this video. I just texted you to
Speaker 3: see if it seems like the same are so different?
Speaker 1: Oh? I did look at this. I've seen this. It
Speaker 1: doesn't look the same.
Speaker 3: Did you have all this black and white?
Speaker 1: No? So everything they.
Speaker 2: Didn't change anything except esthetic stuff when Petra moved in.
Speaker 3: And what about that ceiling is the same with this
Speaker 3: sort of.
Speaker 1: Feeling, it's the same. My mom created that chandelier. It
Speaker 1: Oh you push a button and it moved down so
Speaker 1: that people have clean it.
Speaker 3: Okay, wow, wow, serious, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Everything is the same. They just did paint and new furniture.
Speaker 3: So beautiful that she has in here.
Speaker 1: It looks good.
Speaker 2: I don't remember it looking like that exactly when I
Speaker 2: saw it when she owned it.
Speaker 1: So I don't know did you get to you did
Speaker 1: you go there when she owned it? No?
Speaker 3: Okay, so you have not been there no since.
Speaker 1: But like my mom made that sweeping staircase, it's all connected.
Speaker 1: You go on one side.
Speaker 3: The living room is weirdly not as big as I
Speaker 3: would think it would be. It's not like super ostentatious
Speaker 3: living room.
Speaker 2: It's like kind of well, you don't have to have
Speaker 2: you don't have to have it big when you have.
Speaker 1: Three of them. So yeah, there were three living rooms,
Speaker 1: beautiful like windows.
Speaker 3: So that's all the same every library. So now I'm
Speaker 3: seeing the library.
Speaker 1: Oh what do you look at?
Speaker 3: Decor is I don't know who did the decor on this?
Speaker 3: Was there a fish tank? There's a fish tank?
Speaker 2: Yeah, on the bottom level where the bowling alley the
Speaker 2: bar fish tank before and then Arcade and.
Speaker 1: Then the doll museum.
Speaker 3: So okay, will I guess My question for you is,
Speaker 3: and you should use exactly what you said? Will you
Speaker 3: send him a note if.
Speaker 1: You if you hold me accountable.
Speaker 3: I think you should. Why wouldn't you? And look, he
Speaker 3: can say no, but like, why wouldn't he say yes?
Speaker 1: Or I can wait nonprofit events, Let's.
Speaker 3: Not wait, let's not wait. That's a very tory spelling
Speaker 3: thing to say, let's wait, and it's like, why, well,
Speaker 3: let's not be tory spelling ish about it. Let's actually
Speaker 3: like do it. Do you think it would be cathartic
Speaker 3: to go there? Or do you think it would be
Speaker 3: what do you think you would feel?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you just had cathartic and I
Speaker 1: wanted to cry.
Speaker 3: Oh really, yeah, I don't know about God. What are
Speaker 3: you feeling? Tell me what you're feeling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it would give me closure on
Speaker 1: something I haven't addressed ever, and it's something I need.
Speaker 1: And I just would like my kids. I want my kids.
Speaker 1: That house never represented. I feel like our family correctly
Speaker 1: and my dad worked really hard well.
Speaker 2: My mom was a stay at home mom. She worked
Speaker 2: really hard on everything for his business to help us
Speaker 2: achieve success.
Speaker 1: And my brother and I work really hard.
Speaker 2: And I think I've spent a lifetime of apologizing for
Speaker 2: that house. And so I want my kids to see
Speaker 2: it because they see it and their friends show them
Speaker 2: pictures and they don't understand. And I want them to see,
Speaker 2: because I want them to know how hard Grandpa Aaron
Speaker 2: worked because he worked really hard. He came from nothing,
Speaker 2: like he worked hard to be able to give our
Speaker 2: family that, whether I liked it or not. So I'd
Speaker 2: like them to know because I feel like I work
Speaker 2: really hard and they.
Speaker 1: Just it's a different it's a disconnect. They don't understand,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: They talk all the time like, oh, our friends like
Speaker 2: they're rich and everything, and our family's not rich. And
Speaker 2: it's so odd for me to hear that because I
Speaker 2: grow wow, you know, being just all I knew is
Speaker 2: people calling me the rich girl, and it was so
Speaker 2: shaming to me. And it's only now as an adult
Speaker 2: and I'm like proud of that because that's how hard
Speaker 2: my dad works to give all that. And I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's just it's wild, you know, it's wild to suddenly
Speaker 2: my kids have the perception while they don't think we're poor,
Speaker 2: they're just you know, we're a normal family and we're functioning.
Speaker 2: We're worried about paying bills month to month, and it's
Speaker 2: you know, they can't make the connection when they see
Speaker 2: that photos. So for them to be there in person,
Speaker 2: I think it would be cathartic for our whole family,
Speaker 2: for our history.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of healing that needs to sort of happen,
Speaker 3: and I think it's interesting. Oh bless you, Tori, Like
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, I know how much like emotion and
Speaker 3: just like there's a lot of sort of goop with
Speaker 3: it all in your body. I always wonder if so,
Speaker 3: like you've said, shame, the shame you felt being the
Speaker 3: rich girl, if is one of the reasons where you're
Speaker 3: like no, because toy, you could be. I just wonder, well,
Speaker 3: I mean, I wonder if you don't subconsciously you don't
Speaker 3: want that shame on you anymore or your kids, that
Speaker 3: there is something that in a way you like about
Speaker 3: not being rich.
Speaker 1: Yes, I believe that that was my story since I
Speaker 1: was young, Like I'm embarrassed, Like I'm embarrassed of our life.
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed about being the rich girl. So while I
Speaker 1: have the capabilities and the intelligence and the creativity and
Speaker 1: the brain too do anything I want to do, I
Speaker 1: subconsciously keep myself smaller so.
Speaker 2: That I'm not that rich girl because that was my
Speaker 2: shame my whole life. Like it's still the same story
Speaker 2: in my head even though, yeah, financially, just to use
Speaker 2: the word shame anymore, just to use the word shame.
Speaker 3: About it to me again, I'm not a therapist. I'm
Speaker 3: just doing my best to like be your friend.
Speaker 1: Like I don't.
Speaker 3: I grew up privileged, rite nothing like you, But I
Speaker 3: don't have any shame about that.
Speaker 1: Like it's like why do I then?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, and look, I guess it's
Speaker 3: apples and oranges because it's like you, you add so much.
Speaker 3: But like, why do you feel bad about it? Do
Speaker 3: you feel bad that your dad came from nothing now
Speaker 3: made all these incredible shows, yeah, and made a lot
Speaker 3: of money, Like why do you feel shame about that?
Speaker 3: I'm just curious.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I was bullied so bad in school
Speaker 1: for it that I think it just started. I was
Speaker 1: bullied from the time I was in kindergarten about it,
Speaker 1: and it just became ingrained in me that this is like,
Speaker 1: this is bad, this is a bad thing, and I
Speaker 1: just want to fit in.
Speaker 2: That's it, I would say, I want to be normal.
Speaker 2: I want to fit in. So everything we had represented
Speaker 2: an obstacle of me having an emotionally normal life.
Speaker 1: I'm feel embarrassed.
Speaker 2: Even saying this now, like I'm saying this out loud,
Speaker 2: I'm like, and I got to say, like, you know
Speaker 2: you always tell me.
Speaker 1: Like you don't have to say this before you say that.
Speaker 2: I'm so in my brain conditioned to be like, I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to be a victim. I know I have
Speaker 2: more than everyone else, but I still feel this way,
Speaker 2: like it's just so ingrained in me to apologize for
Speaker 2: being me.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why.
Speaker 3: Again, I am convinced the hint of hoarding you do
Speaker 3: is connected to this.
Speaker 1: It must vinced. Okay, what you're doing.
Speaker 3: Why I get convinced why it's all connected, like that
Speaker 3: you can't let go of things. And also like, because
Speaker 3: I think there's something in the opposite of it, right,
Speaker 3: Like we're talking about like bills that would be more
Speaker 3: than someone's million dollar home, right, like millions of dollars.
Speaker 3: I think there was something that just you didn't like
Speaker 3: about being so wealthy that you'll do anything to not
Speaker 3: feel that. Right, So, like say you might be like
Speaker 3: I need a new car, but I can't afford it.
Speaker 3: I'm just making it up, right, say that You're like, Hey,
Speaker 3: I really need a new car, but I can't afford.
Speaker 3: There's something I think that you probably find comfortable in
Speaker 3: that because you don't have to be ashamed. It's almost
Speaker 3: like you're more ashamed of being wealthy than not being
Speaker 3: able to pay a bill.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yeah, I don't know how to get past that.
Speaker 3: Like I'm not good at curing it. I'm only I'm
Speaker 3: only like I can only see it. And then I go,
Speaker 3: I don't know how you I mean, I obviously there's
Speaker 3: ways to work through it, because I don't. And again,
Speaker 3: I don't want to speak about Randy, but Randy seems
Speaker 3: to have he doesn't have some of the hang ups
Speaker 3: you have, and he can speak for himself. I apologize
Speaker 3: that I'm even saying that, but like, no, you're.
Speaker 1: Right, he's He also worked. He worked really hard. I
Speaker 1: mean you have to.
Speaker 2: You know, there were times where I went years without
Speaker 2: therapy and with you know, I was just going five
Speaker 2: kids and yeah, it just you know, he was able
Speaker 2: to work through a lot of this stuff. I mean,
Speaker 2: oddly enough, when you know, we we both have hang
Speaker 2: ups that are similar, we just handled them in a
Speaker 2: different way.
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I remember a time where we were going to get
Speaker 2: rid of everything and I had like a full, like
Speaker 2: crying breakdown, even all.
Speaker 3: The storage stuff, all this sort of memory and all
Speaker 3: the stores.
Speaker 2: Okay, I remember this was we were filming True Tory
Speaker 2: and we were going to get rid of everything. Deane
Speaker 2: and I were talking about it. We were fighting, and
Speaker 2: I started a crying breakdown. And I remember like he asked,
Speaker 2: and the producer asked me afterwards, like why are you
Speaker 2: so upset? And I said, because it almost erases my existence.
Speaker 1: I worked so hard for all this, Like I worked
Speaker 1: so hard. I worked since I was sixteen years old,
Speaker 1: and I haven't stopped.
Speaker 2: And it's like if I get rid of everything that
Speaker 2: when I worked hard and I had the money I
Speaker 2: was able to afford and bring into the home, then
Speaker 2: it's as if I never did anything.
Speaker 1: I have nothing to show for it except my beautiful children.
Speaker 2: I know this is irrational, but that's what really came
Speaker 2: out of me at the time. And again, this is,
Speaker 2: you know, fourteen years ago, thirteen years ago.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of sense. I actually, I mean, like
Speaker 3: it makes sense, and it makes sense that you have
Speaker 3: so much sort of aim over the house, right, like,
Speaker 3: because again it's all that that your dad works so
Speaker 3: hard for and now it's someone else's.
Speaker 2: When I dream about my home or dream about my dad,
Speaker 2: it's always in the house I grew up in, which
Speaker 2: it always is.
Speaker 1: I've never once had a dream, and I'm in the
Speaker 1: manner and you know, we have dreams of family homes
Speaker 1: and we're like the age we are now.
Speaker 2: But we're in our We're in our family home. It's
Speaker 2: always one eleven North Mapleton, which.
Speaker 3: You wish you could have that house. I really do.
Speaker 2: House when that was selling over and over again, and
Speaker 2: I mean not, that's still a huge house that I
Speaker 2: don't need.
Speaker 3: Look reasonable though, No, no, no, But it was.
Speaker 2: Like ten thousand square feet or yeah, yeah, and it
Speaker 2: really was a family home and I have so many
Speaker 2: beautiful memories there and I always thought, gosh, I will
Speaker 2: be like I would be the hero in my own
Speaker 2: story for myself if I could afford, at one point,
Speaker 2: if it were back on the market, to go and
Speaker 2: buy that childhood home and have it as something my
Speaker 2: brother and I could use with our family something, because
Speaker 2: that would be really special to us.
Speaker 3: That's more the house.
Speaker 1: That's the house.
Speaker 3: But it's interesting, you felt so many emotions.
Speaker 1: Actually, that's the house I want to take my kids too.
Speaker 3: More.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who has that house? I don't know, but I
Speaker 2: know you can still see. It's right on the corner
Speaker 2: of Sunset, so you could like see the backyard. And
Speaker 2: that's where my dad had his vegetable garden. And every
Speaker 2: Saturday we would do there. We would go into the
Speaker 2: vegetable garden and then I had my little playhouse down below,
Speaker 2: and you could see it from the street. It's still
Speaker 2: there last time I looked. I don't know, I was
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. But and then we would
Speaker 2: spend time at the pool and I would bring my
Speaker 2: scripts out. I would bring all his scripts out to
Speaker 2: him and would go through them.
Speaker 1: And so that's the place to wholesome memory of my dad. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's the place I need to go back to.
Speaker 3: I just realized it's a lot. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: you've got like a lot. There's a lot of connection
Speaker 3: with the you know, the material part, but the memories
Speaker 3: are the same, like and you can have that anywhere.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. There's
Speaker 3: a lot obviously more to talk about. I see, you know,
Speaker 3: it's all jumbled up for you.
Speaker 1: It's all in there somewhere.
Speaker 3: What do you feel when you just go drive by?
Speaker 1: What if you just go drive by the manor or
Speaker 1: the other both both places.
Speaker 2: I've driven by it. I've showed the kids and you
Speaker 2: can't see from the outside the house I grew up,
Speaker 2: and it's up a long, long driveway see anything from there.
Speaker 2: But I tell them stories and I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: this is where the og like we used to call her.
Speaker 1: The map lady before they were all the star tours.
Speaker 1: She was literally sit in her little flight of car
Speaker 1: tave corner across from my parents' house, and she would
Speaker 1: sell the maps right there with a sign. To me.
Speaker 1: She was family like she that's that's my fan.
Speaker 2: That's maybe you know, I don't know, that's an ants
Speaker 2: across the street. And my dad was always so kind
Speaker 2: to her, and so we knew her by name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the kids, I mean, look, I do I
Speaker 3: think you should send the note.
Speaker 1: I'll send it.
Speaker 3: To the er. Yeah, and to see why not?
Speaker 1: Why not send a few women.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure I've got an assistant. Let's just
Speaker 3: send it to the assistant. Okay, what assistants? Assistant?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I we'll just start googling it, googling it, see chatchpt.
Speaker 3: I think he was he used to. I think he
Speaker 3: was the former CEO of Google. I think that's I don't.
Speaker 3: I think he's not Google anymore. But I mean, do it,
Speaker 3: so look and then we'll see what it does, like
Speaker 3: maybe it'll make you feel better. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: also had one more idea, would you ever make a
Speaker 3: movie about your dad?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Has anyone done a movie about your dad's life story?
Speaker 1: And you don't mean a documentary, you mean.
Speaker 3: No, I mean like a right like Leonardo DiCaprio is
Speaker 3: playing your dad?
Speaker 2: I mean maybe right like Lifetime did, like the nine
Speaker 2: O two one oh one, and they.
Speaker 3: Did, but that's not the air.
Speaker 1: And someone played my dad? Did you know?
Speaker 2: That was the guy from from the Simpsons, that Dan Cassa.
Speaker 3: What's no way he believed my dadh My god, I
Speaker 3: don't know who would play your dad today? That'd be interesting.
Speaker 2: Isn't that wild that he he has such a history?
Speaker 1: How come no one ever thought to do that?
Speaker 3: I think you should try.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I wonder if it would be healing to you? You're right?
Speaker 3: Why would they not take you.
Speaker 2: He was always like Steven Spielberg was one of my
Speaker 2: dad's closest friends.
Speaker 1: So you're right, why didn't hear? Why not? I know,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it would be good. Why don't you start?
Speaker 1: I always wanted to do a play based on my dad.
Speaker 3: Well, then the play can turn into a movie. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know. Like, God, your dad's book again? Is
Speaker 3: your dad's book on audiobook? That's a great question, so
Speaker 3: hard you should first of all, if it isn't, this
Speaker 3: is Is this the one Aaron Spelling a Prime Time life?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, we need to turn this into a movie. Wow,
Speaker 3: I'll read it. I'll start working on it. Really I
Speaker 3: feel now, I mean I don't know. I changed this,
Speaker 3: changed it to you know, but how do you feel?
Speaker 1: No? This is a good, positive thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is what my dad loved and passion,
Speaker 2: and it's so crazy, like he's such a part of
Speaker 2: Hollywood history and especially television, and it's just crazy to
Speaker 2: me that future generations won't know that, unless, of.
Speaker 3: Course, rediscovering all these shows. It's true, does your mom
Speaker 3: still have all the leather bound scripts and all that?
Speaker 1: Obviously she donated them?
Speaker 3: Oh where are they? At the Museum of TV and Radio.
Speaker 3: Where are they?
Speaker 2: I want someone to say, this sounds weird, but my
Speaker 2: memories typically right. We can fact check this to Boston,
Speaker 2: to a Boston college that can't be cool?
Speaker 1: Or did SMU was my dad's school?
Speaker 3: Aaron Spelling scripts are primarily held by Boston Universities, Howard
Speaker 3: Godly Archival Research Center, and Yale University's archives.
Speaker 1: Wow, let's reach.
Speaker 3: Out to them, you nail that.
Speaker 1: I wish I had one of them.
Speaker 3: They are bound leather scripts from popular shows like Charlie's Angels,
Speaker 3: Meloy's Place I Know to No Dynasty. Yelle's collection contains
Speaker 3: scripts from the fifties and sixties, including works by Spelling,
Speaker 3: Rod Serling, and others. Wow. Good, good knowledge. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: gotta Maybe you know because you have his legacy and
Speaker 3: your own, so I don't know. I always think, you know,
Speaker 3: start doing these things. Maybe you'll enjoy it.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm scared to reach out to people I.
Speaker 3: Know, but I'm going to help you. Okay, all right,
Speaker 3: we'll write that lest So whoever's listening, let's write up
Speaker 3: what Tori said, and then we'll help her find find him.
Speaker 3: Let me just see Eric Schmidt's email.
Speaker 1: What imagine it's that simple?
Speaker 3: Nobody will find that for U, This says Gmail.
Speaker 1: But I don't imagine it was that simple. We just
Speaker 1: said it and they're like, oh, why he Tori smelling? Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on bye five nine four.
Speaker 3: To be continued. Everyone listening can help us. To be
Speaker 3: continued