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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stepping On Toes. I am professional dancer Danielle Fischell,

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Speaker 1: and I.

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Speaker 2: Am a professional celebrity podcaster balancing.

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Speaker 1: Guys. This is our very first episode.

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Speaker 2: I just always wanted to do this.

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Speaker 1: You just want to play with it. You want to

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Speaker 1: play with the microphone. Listen, don't you dare respectfully you

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Speaker 1: want to play with the microphone.

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Speaker 2: Not anymore, but you did want to.

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Speaker 1: You had to get.

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Speaker 2: Now now I can't get.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, this is why I wanted to work with you.

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Speaker 1: I I wanted a co host that would come in

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Speaker 1: and go, can I play with the microphone?

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Speaker 2: Maturity, poise, professionalism, That's what I bring.

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Speaker 1: I truthfully adore you. I am so excited that you

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Speaker 1: agreed to do this with me. I think you have

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Speaker 1: such an important voice in this community and in this world,

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Speaker 1: and you're so good at being able to explain yourself.

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Speaker 1: You can stay diplomatic, but you also are always very honest,

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Speaker 1: which is what people want. You're authentic through and through.

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Speaker 1: I guess the shorthand is you are truly who you

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Speaker 1: are at all times, and I love it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Here, you and my mom, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Everybody else has something to say about that, but no,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the opportunity. Obviously I have a lot to

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Speaker 2: say about a lot of things, but dance is something

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Speaker 2: that I committed my life to. So yeah, I'm excited

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Speaker 2: to speak on that. I'm excited to use my voice too,

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Speaker 2: oh soo not just inform people of the things that

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Speaker 2: I've experienced, but also to celebrate those that are in

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Speaker 2: my community. I think that's really wonderful that and we'll

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Speaker 2: get to what was the the beginnings of this podcast,

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Speaker 2: but stepping on toes, you know, Next Pro, the the

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Speaker 2: shows that are kind of growing around the idea of

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Speaker 2: ballroom dance. I think that's wonderful.

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Speaker 1: There's such a big spotlight on ballroom dancing. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: something you've committed your life to. It almost would be

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Speaker 1: a shame to have this kind of a spotlight on

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Speaker 1: it and to not be a part of it and

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Speaker 1: to celebrate it and to not help build it up.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for letting me do that with you.

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Speaker 1: So we are recapping the inaugural season of a brand

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Speaker 1: new addition to the Dancing with the Stars universe. It's

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Speaker 1: the competition reality show The Next Pro, hosted by our

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Speaker 1: beloved Pal Robert Irwin. They have brought together twelve up

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Speaker 1: and coming dancers to live and train together. They're going

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Speaker 1: to compete in an audition process along the way, and

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Speaker 1: one winner will join the show for season thirty five.

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Speaker 1: As your competition, I was going to say, as my castmates,

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Speaker 1: but I know, and I turned it to competition.

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Speaker 2: No, totally, because that's what it is. Yeah, I could

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Speaker 2: tiptoe around that, but the truth is it is still

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Speaker 2: a competition. And but we'll get to that. I just

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Speaker 2: want to say, yeah, so fun, such a great show,

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Speaker 2: such a great concept. Like I said, the world of

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Speaker 2: borehom Dance continues to grow as far as uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: broadcasting it to the world. So it's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 2: I am so proud of our cast, the current cast

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Speaker 2: of Dancing with the Stars. And having said that, there

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Speaker 2: are just so many other characters in our world that

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Speaker 2: I love. I do have experience with a lot of

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Speaker 2: these kids. Yeah, I do know quite a few of them,

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Speaker 2: and so to see these stories come to light, to

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Speaker 2: see them get their spotlight, it does mean a lot

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Speaker 2: to me.

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Speaker 1: You're like a proud uncle. You literally have goose bumps.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just thought of again, I don't want to cut.

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Speaker 1: Let's just get to it and know, let's take one

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Speaker 1: step at a time. That one step at a time.

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of dance ponds in this.

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Speaker 1: Yes, at least in the first episode. We got to

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Speaker 1: get him out of our system, just like the mic.

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Speaker 1: You know. So the show is judged by legendary dancer

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Speaker 1: and the world's most accomplished Latin instructor at ten times

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Speaker 1: US champion, whose fingerprints are all over almost every pro

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Speaker 1: currently on the show, Miss Shirley Ballas yep.

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Speaker 1: For those who are unaware of the Shirley Ballast law,

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Speaker 1: what should they know about her?

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, she's she's just a superstar educator

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Speaker 2: as a competitor, and she was a superstar when she competed.

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Speaker 2: But I think she really came into her lore, if

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Speaker 2: But she's been an influence on my career and and

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Speaker 2: Charley Ballast is our you know, she she's our founding mother. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I want. I didn't want to be disrespectful too. It's

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Speaker 1: It's about stature.

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Speaker 2: Her stature is and the fact that she's still doing

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Speaker 2: love that she has the pedigree to speak on dance,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. We also have three time Mirror Ball winner and

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Speaker 1: Shirley's son, a ballroom legend in his own right, Mark

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Speaker 1: ballas as the other contestant, judge, someone you know very well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We reflect on that from from time to time. Actually,

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Speaker 2: especially last season when we both kind of had really

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Speaker 2: that we've been doing this alongside each other for thirty years. Yeah. Wow,

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Speaker 2: And that's again, but but it means a lot, you know, again,

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Speaker 2: to pursue something that you're passionate about, and to pursue

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Speaker 2: really because because you loved it, not because of like

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Speaker 1: You know, never predicted where it would have ended up.

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Speaker 2: And if I would have known in middle school that

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Speaker 2: going to land me a podcast with one and only

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Speaker 2: time to Panga, I would have practiced harder.

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Speaker 3: If you went to a podcast with Tapega versus one

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Speaker 3: of the most formidable pro dancers on Dancing with the Stars,

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Speaker 3: That's where.

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Speaker 1: I thought we were going with this.

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Speaker 2: Respectfully to my employers, Yeah, no, definitely podcast with a panga.

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Speaker 1: Well thank you. I take that as the highest compliment.

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Speaker 1: There are a ton of familiar faces who flew out

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Speaker 1: so we expect to see all of our favorites get involved.

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Speaker 1: When did you first hear about the next pro show?

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Speaker 2: We were on tour with Dancing with the Stars and

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Speaker 2: for those unfamiliar, we do our season and then we

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Speaker 2: It's interesting that was the first time I I found

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Speaker 2: the pros will be used to mentor some of these guys,

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Speaker 2: and what that meant was that our tour is going

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Speaker 2: it all worked out and we were just excited again

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Speaker 2: I think it's a perfectly adjacent show to Dancing with

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Speaker 2: like the not the Little League World Series. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: it's like when you watch collegiate sports and you know

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Speaker 2: myself as some sort of authority figure away from this talent.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, they are fighting for the big leagues, and

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Speaker 1: How difficult do you think it is to come into

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Speaker 1: history of being on Troop and then to become a

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Speaker 2: Very? Very difficult? Nearly impossible? Right again unless unless and

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Speaker 2: again I'm only talking from my experience. I was one

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Speaker 2: and I was trash my first season.

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Speaker 2: it's very challenging because a lot of it rides also

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Speaker 2: the different nuances that come with experience. And I don't

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Speaker 2: It's all about experience.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, getting those ten thousand hours before you really

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Speaker 2: thousand hours on TV. Yeah, doing TV? Right, So this

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Speaker 2: You gotta have the humility to do so, and you

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Speaker 2: got to learn.

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Speaker 1: Right. So you mentioned that you are familiar with a

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Speaker 1: lot of the contestants on the show. Yeah, how many

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Speaker 2: There's only there's only like two that I didn't know really, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: is on the line. We also get a quick rundown

435
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Speaker 1: of some of the pros we are going to see

436
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Speaker 1: stop by at some point, and once our opening credits

437
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: come to a close, the contestants meet Robert, and Robert

438
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: meets the contestants. He quickly informs them whatever close connection

439
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: they have with Dancing with the Stars now means nothing.

440
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: I guess we're looking at you, Stephanie. He then introduces

441
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Speaker 1: our judges, Surely and Mark Ballas and I think it

442
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: is worth noting that Mark does the little gen Z

443
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Speaker 1: heart symbol. He does it so fluid and so fast.

444
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Speaker 1: He just walks out and immediately knows how to do

445
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Speaker 1: that heart. And I had to practice this about seventy

446
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: five times before you got here, just in anticipation of

447
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Speaker 1: doing it today.

448
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Speaker 2: Do you know how to do that? Gives me the heart? Okay?

449
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: Sorry? And I just did it seventy five times. Looks

450
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: like a potato potato heart.

451
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: Okay, But I'll forgive them. I haven't. I'm going to

452
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Speaker 2: make sure you're gonna get over that well.

453
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Speaker 1: Shirley says she is expecting technical excellence and the ability

454
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Speaker 1: to cope with extreme pressure. Mark wants to see imagination

455
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Speaker 1: and heart that can stun the TV audience, not just

456
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Speaker 1: an expert, which I feel like it would be easier

457
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Speaker 1: to stun the audience more so than to stun an expert.

458
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Speaker 2: But oh, totally yeah.

459
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Speaker 1: But I but I think maybe he means that emotion

460
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Speaker 1: that you can feel, because sometimes I think the audience

461
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily know what they're looking for.

462
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 2: No, but again, I mean, first of all, dance is

463
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Speaker 2: a vehicle to connect, so he's right. Yeah, Ultimately, the

464
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: technique is there to support your ability right to tell

465
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Speaker 2: a story, to connect, to express yourself, to to showcase

466
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Speaker 2: the music. When I say I want technique, I want

467
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Speaker 2: not because that is a challenge I want you to

468
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 2: to to tackle. Is because without that you're just not

469
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: equipped with the tools that can give you the ability

470
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Speaker 2: to perform on the level that you can. So it's

471
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Speaker 2: you know, one of my teachers said, like, technique is

472
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Speaker 2: not there to to get in your way of performance

473
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Speaker 2: and create ativity or artistry. Technique is there to enhance

474
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: it and give you the tools to be able to

475
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Speaker 2: do all those things right.

476
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: Robert reveals that every week's challenge will be led by

477
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Speaker 1: the people who know dancing with the stars better than anyone,

478
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: and that is the pros. So for episode number one,

479
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: they are going to be getting their marching orders from

480
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Speaker 1: the one and only four time Emmy winner and a

481
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: six time Mirror ball Chance, Derek Huff and right off

482
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Speaker 1: the bat we get some of that BBC, ABC, Hulu,

483
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: Disney plus magic because Derek doesn't just walk into the ballroom.

484
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Speaker 1: He puts on a dramatic, impressive performance alongside a partner

485
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Speaker 1: who is wearing some very familiar orange fringe pants. I

486
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Speaker 1: love those.

487
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: Fringe pants everybody does.

488
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Speaker 1: They're just the best? Are those the pants Alex wore?

489
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Speaker 2: Those are like, what was that movie The Traveling Pants Sis?

490
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,959
Speaker 2: That's what it feels like with these.

491
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Speaker 1: Honestly, all the costumes are a little sisterhood of the

492
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: Traveling Pants. My costumes for a couple of times in

493
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: the show just said Emma's name in the boom and

494
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: then it be crossed out someone else's name in It.

495
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: Literally looks like one of those trees at the park

496
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: withoud the It would be like the girl fromd Boyfriend Hart.

497
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: Because I see my shirt's also gleb crossed out alt

498
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: and crossed out I'm like, how does this even fit?

499
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: I know the crossout is aggressive too. It's like it's like, Okay,

500
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: I guess I don't exist in this shirt anymore. How

501
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: would you describe Derek when it comes to the dance

502
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: floor Dramatic? No, yeah, flair for the drama.

503
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: I mean he's excellent, you know, again allowed that exuberance,

504
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: and that flair is only it only exists because of

505
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 2: years of work into his foundation and mechanics and technique.

506
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: And you know the fact that he was able to

507
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: choreograph a piece on the partner that was in Australia

508
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: and do so in like two days. You have to

509
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: tap into that two box to do so. So anyway,

510
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: I'm not even going to champion this technique obviously, that's no.

511
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: He's incredible, yeah, And I love that performance and again

512
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: that's it's very vintage Derek Hoff. And also it's perfect

513
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: for the kids to see because that is the standard. Ultimately,

514
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: obviously you got to find your individuality, but that is

515
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: the standard, right he you know, kind of the Michael

516
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: Jordan of our world, at least the Dancing with the

517
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: Stars world, not just in his accolades, but also in

518
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: just the body of work. Because there's a lot of

519
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: people that win, but it's how you win and with

520
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 2: with what kind of work do you win with? And

521
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: so you know, I have incredible respect for all the

522
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: work that he's produced, and he's also you know, there's

523
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: some work that he didn't win with that in my eyes,

524
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: were also winning a couple. So he's the he's the

525
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: he's the standard. Yeah, for sure.

526
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Speaker 1: He gets into the first challenge, which will be all

527
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: about technique, which brings a big smile to Shirley's face.

528
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: So the boys are going to be paired up to

529
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: dance the jive, girls are going to be paired up

530
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: to dance the samba, and Derek will also be at

531
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 1: rehearsals giving advice which they are advised to listen to

532
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: because at the end of the episode they will have

533
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: a double elimination right off the back, I know, which

534
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: is exactly how it is. Well, I guess I'm Dancing

535
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: with the Stars last week.

536
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: First week.

537
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: Everyone goes through the first week, and then the second week,

538
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: two of you are gone.

539
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: It's probably like an agent favorite Nation, like negotiation, like bro.

540
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: No one's signing up exactly if.

541
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: They're gonna everyone can say I made it to at

542
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: least week two to exactly.

543
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: Don't worry about who got eliminated a week one.

544
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: It's not important. So one guy and one girl will

545
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: be going home. But before the competition heats up, they

546
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: are sent off to see their new digs because, in

547
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: case you forgot, they're also going to be living together.

548
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: They are staying in a sprawling mansion that also has

549
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: bunk beds. So cool, such a beautiful place.

550
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: Right, Love Island meets Dancing with the Stars.

551
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: That's crazy, That's exactly what it felt like. It was amazing.

552
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: They never put me up in a mansion.

553
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: No, you've never been in a mansion because of Dancing

554
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 1: with the Stars.

555
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: No, wow, I don't think so I have to.

556
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: I have to go back. I mean no, you're right

557
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: the HULU Get Real event. Yes, that's in a that's

558
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: in a gorgeous mansion. Yeah, so you don't get to

559
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: live there.

560
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: No, No, And it felt like it was. It was

561
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: had really great amenities too.

562
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: I think so, although I was I was a little

563
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: confused by the bunk beds. I get it they want

564
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: them all together all the time, but I'm like, you

565
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: have this huge what are we doing with all the

566
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: other bedrooms?

567
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: Right? No, it's a cool twist. I think it also

568
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: reveals them in a in a more again just some

569
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: more relaxed wayback space, which which also is a great

570
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: look into the process. Right, Like, so much work happens

571
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: at home, even on our show, you know, even like

572
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: like we obviously work in the studio and we rehearse

573
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: and all this stuff, but we go home and we

574
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: stress and torment ourselves about the creative choices all the time.

575
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: So the fact that we get to kind of see

576
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: that part with the kids that I.

577
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: Love that, Yeah, that's pretty great. We just recently did

578
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: the Dancing with the Stars tour together, and so although

579
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: I was not on your bus, we do know what

580
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: it's like to live with people in close quarters. So

581
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: I did it did make me wonder if you have

582
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: looks like That's.

583
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: What made me wonder I have a policy. I mean,

584
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: my bunkmates got really not frustrated, but you know, they

585
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: had to address this issue with me.

586
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: One time about your fridge habits.

587
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Speaker 2: My habits are like, if it's in the fridge, it's

588
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: our food. Oh you know what I mean, if it

589
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: got your name on it, then you made the effort.

590
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: I won't touch it. But if it doesn't have a

591
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: name on it.

592
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: Right, So like, if somebody makes something and then puts

593
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: it in a Tupperware container and puts it in the fridge,

594
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: if they don't have their name on it, you're opening

595
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: that up and eating it for lunch.

596
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: Well the tuppleware kind of okay, puts the name on

597
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: it for itself, right, I mean it's in the tup.

598
00:31:59,080 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: What did you eat that? Some?

599
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: But he was mad about everything. Really, my munching game

600
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: is crazy everything. It's mostly snacks. Yeah, I'm not going

601
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: to touch your right leftover meal, but it's uns sings, okay,

602
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: or pizza. I will microwave the pizza and eat it.

603
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: You don't like cold pizza?

604
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: No, okay, not on the bus, but anyway, Yeah, somebody

605
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: to be like bro I was saving that dessert.

606
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: It's a fair game, you just like that came from Jenna.

607
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: Jenna's a dessert person.

608
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: Came from a few people. It was like an intervention.

609
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: They sat around.

610
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: So it made me wonder if you had to pick

611
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: someone other than your lovely wife Jenna, someone from the

612
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: current cast of Dancing with the Stars, who would you

613
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: be roommates with?

614
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: Brandon?

615
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: Brandon? Yeah, okay because in this In this episode, we

616
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: find out just how small the pro dancer community is

617
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: when we find out that Alan and Nina were even

618
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: roommates at one point. Oh yeah, you guys all know

619
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: each other.

620
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: Oh totally. Well, so Alan and Nina, Well, Alan resigns.

621
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know since when he's been

622
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: in the Bay Area, but he grew up in Philly, Okay,

623
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: and I think she's also from the South Jersey Philly area.

624
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: Okay.

625
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: So they you know, they and you could see it

626
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: in the pictures. They've known each other since they were

627
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: teenagers and kids. So yeah, it is a small world.

628
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 2: That's why I keep talking about how great it is

629
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: that you know it's being broadcasted. It's the world.

630
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: The dancers then get to see their rehearsal space for

631
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: the first time, which is beautiful, and then the dancers

632
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: are joined by Derek to break down what is expected

633
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: for week one. They are split up into pairs, and

634
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: these are the pairs we get. We have a j

635
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: and Jake Brier and Stephanie, Eric and Tristan, Adele and Nina,

636
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: who also appear to know each other and have some

637
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: interesting history. Alan and Benji and Selena and Natalie and

638
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: Derek jumps right into work the way only Derek can,

639
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: jumping in with the women and whisking. It was like

640
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: whisking immediately. I thought it was so great. When it

641
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: comes to the samba, what should contestants know?

642
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: You hear the word bounce a lot, uh huh, So

643
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: the action of maintaining that continuous bounce and then again,

644
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 2: but that's kind of the foundation. And then you build

645
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: different rhythms and I mean it's a dance inspired by

646
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: the carnival from Brazil, so a lot of shimmys and

647
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: shakes and rhythms. Again, it's all about the rhythms that

648
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: you create in your body.

649
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

650
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: Colorful, very colorful fringe pants.

651
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: For orange fringe pants perfect for the samba. For this challenge,

652
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: Derek explains that each pair's performance will feature a solo

653
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: section that they will choreograph on their own and a

654
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: side by side section choreographed by Derek, and then over

655
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: with the boys. Derek finishes out day one with the jive.

656
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: What do people need to know about the jive?

657
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 2: You know, it's so funny that those are the two dances,

658
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: because the jive also has a bounce like yeah, feeling

659
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: to it, but completely differently and with a lot more rebound,

660
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: if you will, especially in the legs and kicks and

661
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: flicks and stuff like that. But again it's a dance

662
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: inspired by the rock and roll era, so you have

663
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: a lot of you have touches of the Charleston and

664
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: the Lindy in there. But just like the music inspires,

665
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: it comes from fifties rock and roll, and so the

666
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: movement is this is the only dance that is native

667
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: to America. So this is born in America, if you will,

668
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: from you know, the rhythm and blues of the music

669
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: that comes here. Other Latin styles, they all come from

670
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: South America.

671
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: Well, we enter rehearsal day number two. The contestants are

672
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: hard at work with their side by sides, but focus

673
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: now on their solo pieces, which they will choreograph. A

674
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: lot has been said over the past year about how

675
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: much traditional old school ballroom experience, how much of that

676
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: should a pro have coming onto the show, But it

677
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: also seems like attention on TikTok and keeping up with

678
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: modern trends is just as if not even more important.

679
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: Exactly looking at you, Hayley.

680
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: I'm looking at everybody born after two thousand and whatever.

681
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, but.

682
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so where do you go going into season thirty

683
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: five of Dancing with the Stars. Where do you stand

684
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: on that? How much do you think in your mind,

685
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: if you had to break it down percentage wise, how

686
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: important is it to be hip and modern and in

687
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: with the kids of the TikTok and how much of

688
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: it is that old school ballroom experience?

689
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: To me, I use that as a common ground. Okay,

690
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 2: you know I would put that in if it allowed

691
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: for it. Obviously I wouldn't force it, kind of yeah,

692
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: it would be blasphemy in the rumba, if you will,

693
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: And there's other genres that that would just not sit

694
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: well with. But I use that as as as a

695
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: common ground with with with eyeballs that would otherwise never

696
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: watch Dancing with the Stars or or ballroom dance, you know.

697
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: And so yeah, it's silly, but that is what's familiar.

698
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: And so I'll use familiarity to to get you in

699
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 2: and then I will feed you the excellence of ballroom dance.

700
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: But you got to get them in there somehow, right,

701
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: because if it's just straight up ballroom excellence, you know,

702
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: you might not you might not have the same reception,

703
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: but you got to meet them in the middle. And

704
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: I do so with with that. So it's a it's

705
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 2: a balance and and it's a it's a balancing act.

706
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: It's got to be authentic to you as well. Thankfully

707
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm hip. Just so.

708
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: Your finger on the pulse of cool. No matter how

709
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: old you get, you did just turn forty, thanks forty five.

710
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: So we're here.

711
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 2: Just I don't look that agent. If you're listening to this.

712
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,479
Speaker 1: You're not a day over thirty. That's true. Derek gets

713
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: someone on one time with Natalie and after checking out

714
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: her samba, he wants to see more wildness and moments

715
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: of energy, and she admits that her weakness is flexibility,

716
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: so she's nervous.

717
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a weird comment that she made because

718
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if she meant flexibility. So all those

719
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: accolades that you read off, yeah, very much, you know,

720
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: very deserving of those titles, Yeah, because you never know.

721
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm the world champion of you know, the middle

722
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: school Orange County affair.

723
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: That would be what my bio.

724
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like these are credible trophies that she earned. Yeah,

725
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: in the discipline of smooth and ball room. I'm not

726
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: sure if her excellence was in the Latin genre. Okay,

727
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: so I think that's what she was trying to say,

728
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: is that, you know, she's more of a master of

729
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: the ballroom craft. Okay, but the Latin part, Yeah, it

730
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: was a little charm, but I thought she nailed it.

731
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: I mean, she definitely again wasn't as expressive and wild

732
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: as she could have been. But I didn't think that

733
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 2: that was the weakest samba quality of the episode for sure.

734
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: Well, next we stop by Briar's practice and she admits

735
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: she's only been doing ballroom for two years, but she

736
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: has over a million followers online. So here is that

737
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: dichotomy we're talking about. In the flesh, Derek sees her

738
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: routine and wants her to find that heel, but overall

739
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: he is impressed with what he's seeing, especially with a

740
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: hard dance like the samba, and for the guys, he's

741
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: looking for some sharp kicks and flicks, and he starts

742
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: off with Tristan, who flubs immediately forgetting his routine in

743
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: front of King Derek, and I it felt I was

744
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: I wanted to hide for him like that is such

745
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: a nightmare feeling to have your mind just go completely blank.

746
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: I mean that was you know, when your mind goes blank,

747
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 2: if you get enough reps in, then your body takes over. Yeah,

748
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 2: and that's that's what's so important about practice.

749
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: Okay.

750
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: And so I'm not gonna say that he didn't practice enough.

751
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: I don't know if that was even available to them.

752
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: Obviously he's in over his head in a lot of ways.

753
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: It is a lot of pressure with Derek coming in.

754
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that was just an intense amount

755
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: of fear slash uncertainty of like, what is the movement

756
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: that I Here's the thing about this is like as

757
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: we build their solos, it's incredibly challenging for the male

758
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 2: and and again it's just you know, it's also challenging

759
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: for the female. But just the roles that we play

760
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: when we ballroom dance, we present our ladies, we kind

761
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: of we have to showcase in the in the masculine

762
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: side of Bonham dance. The whole point is to the

763
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: presentation of your partner as the receiver of that you

764
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 2: are more prone to being forward facing, if you will.

765
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: Like even when we stand side by side, the man

766
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: stands and we call a shadow position, and that's just

767
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: you know, we're side by side, but we're not actually

768
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: you're actually half a step behind, right. That's that to

769
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: me kind of really showcases what this whole thing is about,

770
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: at least culturally or traditionally. And having said that, my

771
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: long story short is that it's really challenging to build

772
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 2: solo choreography in these dances, especially for the men, because

773
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 2: as soon as you take away our partner, we don't

774
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: know what to do now, yeah, exactly, And so I

775
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: think that was another challenge that all the guys faced obviously,

776
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: But one of the reasons why Tristan was kind of

777
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: like stumped for, like, what other jive moves can I

778
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: do in this moment of solo?

779
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: Is there also more a bigger dichotomy between two dances

780
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: other than hip hop and jive. I feel like, on

781
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: your own, you know, on your own, you're like, now

782
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: do a jive solo if when I don't know, the

783
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: jive to me seems very staccato and not a whole

784
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: lot of.

785
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like Michael Flatley would really translate in the

786
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 2: jive more than like erect like a crumper or something exactly.

787
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: Totally well overall, Derek is not feeling too impressed with

788
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: the guys. He thinks they don't understand the gravity of

789
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: the solo moment and the boys are shook by this name.

790
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: Again, he visited the boys, at least the order of

791
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: which on the episode was after the girls. Yeah, And

792
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: like I said, I think when it comes to solo impact,

793
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: the girls just have more in their toolbox to use

794
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: and play with traditionally than the boys. And I think, yeah,

795
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not making excuses for them, but yeah,

796
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: he definitely felt it. Difference came out from there where

797
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: they're you know, sambaing it up. Yeah, they got the

798
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: skirts and the hair and the you know, the energy,

799
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: and then the boys were like, what do I do

800
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 2: with my right right?

801
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: What do I do with my arms? So that night,

802
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: the contestants, especially the boys, rehearse all through the night

803
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: right up to the big day. We see costumers and

804
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: makeup artists getting them all ready while Mark, Shirley, and

805
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: Derek take their seats in a traditional judges table formation,

806
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: and soon after Robert welcomes them all now in full costumes,

807
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: to the battleground and reminds them one girl and one

808
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: guy are going home. He wishes them luck, and the

809
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 1: first pair up are Eric and Tristan. Eric and Tristan

810
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: perform the jive to a version of apt apt by

811
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: Bruno Mars and Rose. What was your feeling on our

812
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: first look at the contestants put on their dance? Of course,

813
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: you can check your notes. I love a podcast through

814
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: who takes notes.

815
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't want to, but I got an email. Yeah,

816
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: I said, Eric, so sound great. Look you can tell

817
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: he's really got quality. Tristan good energy, fun to watch,

818
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 2: but looks but lacks the quality. I think that's necessary.

819
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean again, because there is no uh

820
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: partner to to create that like full full body partner jive.

821
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: I think they did some partnering, but for the most

822
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: part it was side by side, which again just lends

823
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 2: itself to direct comparison, you know, And so I think,

824
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: like I said, Tristan came through he did. I think

825
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: he did like a back handspring, did some tricks, which

826
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 2: again always translate on our show, on any show, people

827
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: love that and it's hard and it should be impressive. Yeah,

828
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: definitely to get the credit. But again that's that's the

829
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: cherry on top of a cake that has to look

830
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: like quality ballroom dance, right, And you just saw that

831
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: in Eric. Eric to me first first like impression, I

832
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: could see that, Yeah, like I could see that on

833
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: our show. I could see that with our fans. I

834
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 2: like his energy, I like his swagger. Like he's understated.

835
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: Again I yet to see the show. Maybe he's an

836
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: awful person, but hopefully now his first impression has been

837
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: like quality in the crafty and then also looks like

838
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: a quality person in the room, right.

839
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: I was. I thought it was very impressive to have

840
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: just seen Tristan go blank face where he was like,

841
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what I wanted to show you, and

842
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: I thought what I saw was very impressive. So even

843
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: if you know, I mean, the difference between him not

844
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: knowing what to do, the working all night very clearly

845
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: paid off for him in my life.

846
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: Totally totally, And that's what I was going to just

847
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: piggyback and say, yeah, that look like practice.

848
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: The practice overnight.

849
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

850
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: And we also at this point then get to see

851
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: that the fellow contestants and Robert are going to watch

852
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: on and cheer from another room via the TV, so

853
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: you're also aware that everyone's watching and then also benefiting

854
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: being that in this situation, at least for this episode,

855
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: the dancers, all the boys are dancing the jive and

856
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: all the women are dancing the samba. So every piece

857
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: of advice those judges are giving about what they're looking for.

858
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: If you get to go last, you have the benefit

859
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: of hearing that feedback. No, too late, you can't change it.

860
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: We have a phrase in Russian. It's like, it's a

861
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: very very depressing phrase.

862
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait to hear it. If you don't

863
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: have potatoes, you will die? Is that it?

864
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: No, It's like, uh, this medicine in Delicious is like

865
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: if you're gonna die, death was going to be a

866
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: part of it for sure, the ultimate you know, and

867
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: then goal here and what are you doing? But you

868
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: know you can't. Doesn't matter how many breaths you'd take

869
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 2: if death comes here, you could just breathe all you want,

870
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: but you're dead anyway, right, beautiful? Yeah, it really inspired

871
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 2: young man.

872
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: I feel crazy.

873
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, But basically what I'm trying to say is

874
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: it's too late, too late at that point. If you're

875
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: starting to run with these advice, then you're just gonna

876
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: complicate your own performance.

877
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good point. Maybe I should have learned

878
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: from that. So once they are finished, Derek tells them

879
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: it was a major improvement from rehearsal, and his eyes

880
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: go to Tristan in the side by side. He wants

881
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: to see more risks from Eric. Surely was impressed, mentioning

882
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: Eric's fantastic posture, but she didn't think Tristan had enough jive.

883
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 1: In his solo. Mark says he's conflicted because he loves

884
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: the jive, but he also likes breaking the rules, which

885
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: I know firsthand. Mark does have a, you know, a

886
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: bit of a reputation for being kind of a rule breaker,

887
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: which I always love, honestly, But he thinks Tristan could

888
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: have benefited from some more jive. And he also thinks

889
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: Eric may have made it look too easy.

890
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 2: Right.

891
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: Have you ever thought that by looking at someone like,

892
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: I wish it looked more. I wish that dance looked

893
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: more difficult for them.

894
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: No, I think he said it made it look easy.

895
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: I would say sometimes things can look a little too polished,

896
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: especially in the jib. Again, with the essence of rock

897
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: and roll, there's a looseness and a wildness to it

898
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 2: that you need, and I think that's more of what

899
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: the sentiment was makes sense, was that like, you were

900
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: so clean and polished, but I felt nothing because this

901
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 2: dude was not clean and polished. Just got I think

902
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: Mark even mentioned is like yo, my eyes, Yeah, still

903
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: going to Tristan. That's because there is strength and imperfection

904
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: as well. Right, So again I don't want to promote ignorance,

905
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: but the difference between you know, creativity and ignorance is

906
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: knowing the rules and then choosing to break and not

907
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: knowing them at all. And so I'm not going to

908
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: give that much credit to Tristan. I think he was

909
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: breaking rules that he didn't know he was breaking. But

910
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: like I said, that lack of perfection but the energy,

911
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: yeah made a bigger splash for those judges than Eric's

912
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 2: like perfectly nailed.

913
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: That makes sense. It definitely seemed like Tristian's had more

914
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: of his personality.

915
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: Well he had to, yeah, put more of everything in

916
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: there to it.

917
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially after the feedback from the day before. So

918
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: overall a very positive response.

919
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 2: Next up, well, again, I think both did their thing,

920
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: oh yeah, in their own separate ways. Like I said,

921
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: it's also very challenging to dance side by side especially.

922
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: In the job and kind of a perfect way then

923
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: of doing the first episode where you have to eliminate

924
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: one male and one female put him side by side.

925
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: Oh, the producers are just geniuses.

926
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: Genius. In next up, we have AJ and twenty two

927
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: year old Jake dancing the jive to a cover of

928
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: What I Like About You. Yep, do you want to

929
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: check your thoughts again on this one? This was Jake,

930
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: Jake and aj.

931
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 2: AG is my favorite. Quickly JA good clean, versatile you

932
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: can see as other styles and his repertoire AJ great quality,

933
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: great look. I thought he did a great job. It

934
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: was crisp and he ended really stronk. Yeah, because again

935
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 2: the format for those of you that didn't watch it

936
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: is one comes in does a solo, then the other

937
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: one comes out, they dance side by side, and then

938
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: the second one finishes it off with the solo. That's

939
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,479
Speaker 2: why I said his finish was very strong. Again, AJ,

940
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: you could just you could just tell, yeah, you know,

941
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: It's just there's certain for anybody that pursues any sort

942
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: of sport or or some sort of craft that that

943
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: includes their bodies. Uh understands those tiny nuances that you

944
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,959
Speaker 2: could tell when someone has done this for a while

945
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: versus not. And that doesn't mean that that's the only

946
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: thing that's important. But you could just tell when someone

947
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: has sound technique versus a little weaker than that. So

948
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 2: I thought, as Aj nailed it, Jake is awesome. Again.

949
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 2: He did Dancing with the Stars Juniors. He is authentically

950
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 2: that he's a wonderful young man. Yeah. Yeah, and again

951
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 2: we're looking for the next young star, so I guess

952
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 2: it all lines up. He felt a little too young,

953
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 2: okay for me, I don't even know if like again,

954
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: if I'm casting for the show. You know, when I

955
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 2: said Eric, I could see that. Yeah, Jake felt just

956
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 2: a little yeah, but yeah he felt but again twenty two,

957
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: but he felt like twenty two going on to eighteen. Okay,

958
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: there's there's I think Adele is twenty two as well. Yeah,

959
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: you know, so it's it's not about it's.

960
00:51:59,160 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: Not about the a.

961
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just again your tone. But but he's got

962
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: a bright future. Again, we're just talking about a prof

963
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: for dancing with the Stars. We're not talking about Billy

964
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 2: Elliott on Broadway like he's a star. Yeah, We're talking

965
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: about can he be a prone dancing with the stars.

966
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: Derek says once again, this was better than their rehearsal,

967
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: but he does think it lacked oomph and energy and

968
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: that they danced a little below the music. Mark tells

969
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 1: Aj there will be more pressure on him now than

970
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: his prior time on Strictly. He says, there are killers

971
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: on the show now, like a guy named Valschmerkovsky.

972
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: Come on, Mark pandering handering to your boy. Yeah, but

973
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: he's right, there are killers on a show. And I'm like,

974
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: just this concept is also fun because again we get

975
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: to mentor these kids into that role. But then I

976
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 2: just want everybody to be aware that once we get

977
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: into the major leagues, like, oh yeah, it's a different

978
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: pace and it's a different approach and to quote Mark Ballace,

979
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 2: we're going for the neck. Yeah, it's a competition, just

980
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 2: like you said, so can you compete with that ferociousness

981
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: that you know? He mentioned my name, but I'm going

982
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: to mention his name right back, like uh and and

983
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: and so on down the list, Like like I said,

984
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's a tough arena to be in,

985
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: so you gotta you gotta really bring it.

986
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: Sureley says that Eric was a little off when it

987
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: comes to musicality and aj needs to take some risks,

988
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: and then it's Benji and Allan who are dancing to

989
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: the Weekends Blinding Lights.

990
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

991
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: Alan to me seems like a star. I just I

992
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: thought I thought it was great. Did you have any thoughts?

993
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 2: This is Alan and Alan and Benji Benji? Yeah, uh yeah,

994
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: no Alan. I would say Alan has the most experience

995
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 2: and the most like He's definitely the most refined when

996
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 2: it comes to like what you're looking for. He's very

997
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: emotionally available, which is fun to watch. He's got the

998
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: mechanics and all the all that stuff, and he has experience.

999
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: I mean again, he's he's done a lot of shows.

1000
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: He's performed in a lot of spaces, you know, big audiences,

1001
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 2: small audiences. He's really put in the work, you know,

1002
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: like this is a guy that's that's really put in

1003
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 2: the work. So and it looks that way. He looks

1004
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 2: very ready for the opportunity.

1005
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: Mark called it the most dynamic performance so far. He

1006
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: loved the technique, and Shirley said she got goosebumps during

1007
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: the dance and wanted to dance with both of them.

1008
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: She loves their energy, the relevant content using the words

1009
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: highest level in her industry, and Derek was left wanting

1010
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: to see more, which is the most you can ask for.

1011
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: And then we have Benji. I want to say shout

1012
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 2: out to Benji too.

1013
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: I think he killed it in the job totally.

1014
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: I think this is Yeah, he really shined in the JIB.

1015
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 1: I liked the song choice a lot.

1016
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they were great and you could see that

1017
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 2: they're like they had great chemistry together. Yeah, they probably

1018
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: came up with that stuff very easily in the studio

1019
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 2: and so like you just saw that. I think chemistry

1020
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: really translates on stage and in the lens as well. Yeah,

1021
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: we could see that when people really feel comfortable in

1022
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 2: each other's space. Was was man woman and men men,

1023
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. You could see when people

1024
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: have chemistry. Yeah.

1025
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we're into the girls, starting with Selena

1026
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: and Natalie and their samba to Daddy Yankees Gas. Selena,

1027
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: what did you think of the first female performance? This

1028
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: was Selena and.

1029
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: Natalie Selena and Natalie.

1030
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: Yes, surely called Selena a superstar. She loved the fluidity

1031
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: of the tricks. She does note that Natalie needs to

1032
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: work on her flexibility, but was impressed by them both.

1033
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: Derek felt like Natalie kept it a little safe and

1034
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: as a result, seems stiff and Mark a greed. He

1035
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: wanted more of a wildness from Natalie, especially in the

1036
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: belly roles, but he calls Selena fire and says he

1037
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: couldn't keep his eyes off her.

1038
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 2: I disagreed with them judges on that. Yeah, I think

1039
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: Selena is definitely a star. Yeah, she's got it. She

1040
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: just now needs to upload the ballroom information and she's

1041
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 2: gonna be you know, she's got everything else. So and

1042
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: you could see that right.

1043
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: Away, and you thought did a great job.

1044
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 2: I just didn't think that Natalie was that underwhelming. Again,

1045
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 2: like they made it sound like her technique was kind

1046
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: of like you not not technique was, but but it

1047
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: made it feel like it was a lackluster performance, and

1048
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't think it was. I thought that

1049
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 2: she did a good job. I thought that she was

1050
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 2: crisp and tight and had all that energy. I just think, again, yeah,

1051
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 2: you're dancing next to that other person, and that other

1052
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: person found camera. You know, they found a way to

1053
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: connect to those judges and also to to the people watching.

1054
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,479
Speaker 2: But the little nuanced things like that's why I said,

1055
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: I think Selena, and in general, as we're looking for

1056
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: the pro like, performing arts is very important and it's just

1057
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 2: as important as the mechanical excellence of ballroom dance the

1058
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 2: performing arts. And so when you talk about performing arts,

1059
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: a lot of us ballroom dancers that just are technical

1060
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 2: ballroom dancers. We don't have experience in the performing arts.

1061
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: You know, I graduated in business and took statistics in math,

1062
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: and like my arts was you know, playing the violin.

1063
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: It wasn't to perform. And again I just I just

1064
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 2: had that energy about me. But it wasn't something that

1065
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: I studied in school. I learned how to run track

1066
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: metaphorically speaking. As far as ballroom dances concerned, same thing

1067
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: for anybody. You know, it's about how much tighter, quicker, sharper,

1068
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: stronger you can do it than the guy next to you,

1069
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: not about how much more personality you could showcase. So

1070
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: I mean it is, it is. It's still a performance,

1071
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: but not to the degree that performing arts kids learn

1072
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 2: to perform and connect. Those are real mechanics involved. And

1073
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: so you could see, like Selena comes from a background

1074
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 2: of performing arts, whether there's jazz, theater, arts, ballet, hip,

1075
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: hop though she's super Bowl, I haven't made whatever she's done,

1076
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: you know, whereas you see, Natalie does not come from

1077
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 2: a world of performing arts, and at the end of

1078
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: the day, we are in the performing arts on the

1079
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: backdrop of competitive boram dancing. So it is a nuanced

1080
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: kind of little, you know, partner work that we're working

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00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: with here.

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00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: Second up, we had Brier and Stephanie who danced to

1083
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: me hente and even before the music surely had a

1084
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: note about her starting leg pose being inca. I can't

1085
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: even imagine what she was doing watching me last season.

1086
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: I literally was the first thing I thought of was,

1087
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I'd love to be a fly. I

1088
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: don't want to be actually, I would hate to be

1089
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: a fly on the wall at her thoughts of me

1090
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: last season. But maybe she was right. Because Briar slips

1091
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: in the beginning move, which is a tough way to start.

1092
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: She does pull it together, she gets through the routine.

1093
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: But I mean, this has happened to everyone. Walk us

1094
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: through what happens when a mistake happens mid routine?

1095
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 2: Time slows down. Yeah, it's interstellar. Is the matrix matrix?

1096
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: Your leave your body all down, You're like, are you crazy?

1097
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: You fly back into your body, you pick yourself up,

1098
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 2: you keep going. You know. I talked to my celebrity

1099
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: I partners on the show. I tell him you got

1100
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: to have short, short term memory, you know. If things happen,

1101
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: we now we have a choice to either compromise everything

1102
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: else that's coming after that, or we could just keep

1103
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: it moving, right, and we could address that maybe afterwards

1104
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 2: if we want to. But in the moment, you just

1105
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: can't let that jeopardize the rest of the wonderful things

1106
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 2: that you can offer, right, and there's ways to turn

1107
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: it around, definitely, So yeah, I mean shout out to

1108
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: her for trying to Yeah, getting up and going for it.

1109
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: Mark does mention the slip, saying everyone slips, and he

1110
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: was impressed with how she gets up and kept going.

1111
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: He didn't love Stephanie's transitions, but he liked that she

1112
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: was locked in surely doesn't like Briar's walk or stand.

1113
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: Her body needs to be a technical machine and suggests

1114
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: going back to the drawing board. She really liked Stephanie, however,

1115
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: and felt like she was right there in Brazil, and

1116
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: Derek says, with the focus being on technique, he is

1117
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: concerned for Briar. How did you feel overall?

1118
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: Sureley's a savage. I love it. That's a superstar by

1119
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: the way. Every Yeah, anyway, Yeah, it's just she ran.

1120
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: It's like the worst case scenario for you know, like

1121
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: if they did the jive, she would have shined a

1122
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 2: lot brighter. They're doing the samba. There's really not that

1123
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: many acrobatics that you could add to a samba that

1124
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: you can to the jive or the realm. Like, I

1125
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: just think that that couldn't have been a more challenging.

1126
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely the hardest dance for her that way.

1127
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's a certain quality to the balance. It's

1128
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: it's also the ladies are not wearing French pants everyone needs,

1129
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 2: but the fellas do wear pants. So again it's not

1130
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 2: it's not an equal playing field. So there's constant like

1131
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: different challenges for men and women, different challenges. So but

1132
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,479
Speaker 2: that's one of them. Like her legs are out there,

1133
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: you're doing the bounce right, because again, you could do

1134
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 2: a ballroom dance and have a beautiful and she would

1135
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 2: tap into her contemporary background, the range that she has elsewhere,

1136
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: and she would have smashed that, especially in a solo moment,

1137
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 2: but the samba doesn't give you those things, and so

1138
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 2: you got to really anyway, So it was hard and

1139
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 2: I agree with them. I mean again, like everything I

1140
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 2: said about her is true. I give her so much props,

1141
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 2: the courage that it takes to put yourself out there

1142
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: in a different style on such a big stage. You know,

1143
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 2: she she's doing the work backstage as well, Like I know,

1144
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 2: she's been taking lessons and she's been really pursuing this

1145
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 2: the right way. She's not just tapping out I'm a

1146
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 2: social media start. No, she's like put in the work,

1147
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: which I love it. She just needs to keep going.

1148
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 2: It's not there yet.

1149
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you think about Stephanie?

1150
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: I mean, she killed it. Stephanie was excellent and samba

1151
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: couldn't have been a better right exactly.

1152
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: So to have the two of them side by side, yeah,

1153
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: it may.

1154
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 2: Have been better for her, you know obviously as far

1155
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: as being a Latina and representing that and having the

1156
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 2: samba as it's kind of your jumping point, and she

1157
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 2: has the hair, the look and the quality, So it

1158
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 2: was like the qualities there, That's what I'm saying. That's baseline.

1159
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: You know, if you can't speak the language. Then you're

1160
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 2: competing in the wrong show, so you got to speak

1161
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 2: the language. And then now now start reciting some poetry

1162
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 2: and so like, I think she has that she knows

1163
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 2: the language, and she she had a lot of fun

1164
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: and did a great job. The last kind of transition

1165
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 2: on the floor was I agree with Mark, a little weird,

1166
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 2: but it was awesome.

1167
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: It was a choice.

1168
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a choice and she did a great

1169
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: job executing it well.

1170
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: Finally we have Adele and Nina performing to Shakira and

1171
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: Why Cleft's Hips Don't Lie. Derek loved Nina's connection with

1172
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: the audience and in tradition with the Ferrari nickname he

1173
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: gave Daniella, he calls Adele a rolls Royce because she

1174
01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: dances expensive. What does that mean exactly to dance expensive?

1175
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 2: What are expensive things?

1176
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: Rolls royces? Nice watches?

1177
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 2: What are some of the common ground between high quality?

1178
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 2: High quality? Yeah, okay, craftsmanship.

1179
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: Things you can't stop thinking about.

1180
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 2: Well, that's for me, she's a status no.

1181
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: Like when I see something of great quality, like thinking

1182
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: specifically about a car, I will keep going back to it, Like, man,

1183
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: that car was beautiful, Man, that drove really well. Like

1184
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: I keep being brought back to the thought of it

1185
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: because of how nice it was.

1186
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a feeling as well, right, the craftsmanship of

1187
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 2: an expensive bag. Yes, a lot of it is branding,

1188
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 2: but a lot of it is the quality of the

1189
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 2: work and it will last you a long time. And

1190
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: so again, her quality is that it's so obvious and

1191
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: it's so incredible high level that you could see it.

1192
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 2: And I love that you can see it. Yeah, because

1193
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 2: that's important because although she is what justifies all of this,

1194
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 2: you know, to a non ballroom dancer, like well, she's

1195
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 2: talking about technique surely, talking about the leg or the

1196
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 2: footplate like seeing her, Ah, this is what you do

1197
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: when you do.

1198
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: All those things. This is what it'll look like.

1199
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you could see it clearly. Why that's

1200
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: substantially different quality of doing that same dance. Yeah.

1201
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: Well, Adele gets emotional at that comment from Derek and

1202
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: she is very thankful for getting this opportunity. Mark thought

1203
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: Adele was a killer, super fierce and assassin. He loved Nina,

1204
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: but he did note that she was ahead of the

1205
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: music at times. And Shirley agrees with Derek about Adele

1206
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: and thought they were both amazing, and she actually thinks

1207
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: they could learn from each other with their individual strengths.

1208
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Nina is a great personality. She knows

1209
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 2: how to talk on cameras. She's like, you know, she

1210
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: you could tell yeah, But she grew up in the

1211
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 2: Tri state New York area, so she's going to talk

1212
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: a lot of smacks, but where Adele is a little

1213
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: bit more reserved. But under that hood, obviously there's a

1214
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 2: lot of energy, a lot of She's a powerhouse. I

1215
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 2: will say, you know, the tears come from, yes, the acknowledgment,

1216
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 2: but also the opportunity to be validated on a bigger

1217
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 2: stage by a different set of eyes because the work

1218
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 2: is done in isolation for many many years. Like what

1219
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 2: you see there is a result of many many years

1220
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 2: of no one really validating your work outside of yourself,

1221
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 2: or at least in the sense of what we're talking

1222
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: about in this show. Right, it's a huge accomplishment. That's

1223
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 2: a validation of sourts right to accomplish that. So the

1224
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 2: fact that she's here on this stage and getting that

1225
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 2: type of feedback, I think it was overwhelming for her

1226
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 2: because for Bormed answers, again, it's such a tiny world.

1227
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 2: We rarely have this type of exposure with Dancing with

1228
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 2: the Stars. Obviously we get to a select few of

1229
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 2: us get to enjoy kind of the mount the Mount

1230
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 2: rushmore right of of what you can do and show business.

1231
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: I love that these kids are feeling a bit of

1232
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 2: that well.

1233
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: Adele becomes an early favorite. But for now, the judges

1234
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: must eliminate one male and one female. So Shirley announces

1235
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: the bottom two women, Brier and Natalie are in jeopardy,

1236
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: and then Mark reveals the two men on the chopping block,

1237
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: Tristan and Jake. Would you have selected those same two

1238
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: males two females? M I felt like I knew. I

1239
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: thought that's what I would have picked based on what

1240
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: we saw, based on I thought that with my very

1241
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: limited knowledge, that's also what I would have selected.

1242
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.

1243
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like they got that right.

1244
01:07:58,280 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: No, totally yeah.

1245
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: Now cued by dramatic music, it's time to make the decision.

1246
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: Our first two eliminated dancers were Jake and Bryer. The

1247
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 1: contestants hug their fallen comrades and Robert gives them some

1248
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: of his signature words of encouragement, and then they say goodbye.

1249
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say, I mean it's a really well

1250
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 2: produced show. It really is revealing of the people that

1251
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 2: I'm watching, Like I really got to know.

1252
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 1: All of them, especially in just one episode.

1253
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know that I have some obviously background

1254
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 2: a lot of them, but you can speak on that

1255
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 2: you don't know them, and now I felt like, oh man,

1256
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 2: I really got to know them. And they also allowed

1257
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 2: themselves to open up. You can see that they were

1258
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 2: all very open, very vulnerable, which again makes it very

1259
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 2: hard for them but really fun for us to watch.

1260
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: I know, like you said, the fact that they were

1261
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: all willing. It seems as though they all are very

1262
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: aware of this what a big opportunity and what is

1263
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:05,799
Speaker 1: at stake?

1264
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 2: Life changing?

1265
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, truly life changing, And so it makes you want

1266
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: to You're rooting for all of them, You're getting to

1267
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: know all of them. Truly an incredible job of getting

1268
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,560
Speaker 1: to know not only twelve dancers someone like myself is

1269
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: completely unfamiliar with. But even if you are unfamiliar with

1270
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: Shirley and Mark and then whoever the rotating judge is,

1271
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: you have a lot of people to service. And I

1272
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: felt like I got to know every single one of them.

1273
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: I got a snippet a taste of who they are.

1274
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: So there are now ten dancers remaining going into episode two.

1275
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: Do you have if you had to pick one favorite

1276
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: right now? Do you have a favorite after episode one?

1277
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 1: Not a clear not yet okay, not a fair favorite.

1278
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 2: Definitely Adele stood out.

1279
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, this episode was her shining.

1280
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 2: Mouth flying out. Of the guys, there's a few, so

1281
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 2: I don't want to Okay, you know, there's like a

1282
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 2: tie for for three. Three dudes to me stood out

1283
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 2: quality enough. But and there's still so much competition left,

1284
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 2: and there are different challenges, and I think for challenge

1285
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 2: number one there were some clear favorites, but that's just

1286
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 2: challenging aspect.

1287
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so well everyone, That is episode one of Stepping

1288
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: on Toes. We will be here every Tuesday recapping the

1289
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 1: next pro ready to find out who will be joining

1290
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: the Dancing with the Stars cast for season thirty five.

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Speaker 1: And in the meanwhile, if you want to come hang

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Speaker 1: out with Val and me and like fifty of our

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Speaker 1: friends like Pasha Pashkov, Jenna Johnson, Daniela Karagoch, Whitney Lovett,

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Speaker 1: Jojo Siwa, as Risosa, Haley Bills. The list goes on

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Speaker 1: and on. You can join us at Dancing with the

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Speaker 1: Stars Fan Convention and live show July thirty first through

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Speaker 1: August second in Palm Springs. There are limited tickets still

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Speaker 1: available at dwts con dot com. Thank you guys for

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Speaker 1: joining us. This was so fun.

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Speaker 2: Val, Thank you. Yeah, yeah, you're one star. If you

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Speaker 2: want to come and tell me how awful I am

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Speaker 2: on this podcast, you could do it in person at

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Speaker 2: this com.

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Speaker 1: What other chance do you have to do something like that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening. We'll catch you next time.