WEBVTT - The Juiciest Scoop 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:06.000 This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:10.520 Welcome to the most dramatic podcast ever. I am Chris Harrison, 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:13.160 coming to you from the home office in Austin, Texas. 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:15.880 A very special show today because we have a special guest. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.439 She's a comedian, New York Times bestselling author, host of 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.759 the podcast Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald. I may have 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.840 just given it away, but Heather McDonald is joining me 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:27.400 on the show. We're going to talk to her and 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:29.880 talk about her life, but we're also going to talk 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:33.600 about current events, talk about what's going on in the world, 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:35.479 get her take on the headlines of the day. And 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.040 Heather joins us now from her home in Los Angeles, 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.040 where we used to be neighbors. Are close to neighbors, 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.360 but I am in the home office in Austin, Texas. 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:46.560 So this is how we're going to meet and talk 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:48.159 via zoom today. 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:49.760 Cool. Great, Thanks for having me. 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:50.360 How you doing. 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:51.880 I'm doing great? 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:57.640 You. I'm looking at your life, comedian and I went 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.000 through everything you're doing. Actress and New York Times best 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:06.000 selling author and podcast host, all these things. Yet I 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:07.640 look at your life and is it fair to say 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.839 and I don't mean this in a bad way. It's 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:14.600 unbelievably boring and normal. Married for twenty years, you have kids, 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.840 you're a mom, You're set up in the valley. There 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.800 where's the darkness that Hollywood's supposed to bring. 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.399 I mean, I do feel extremely lucky, and a lot 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:29.640 of my listeners of Juicy Scoop as moms are sweet 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:33.160 enough to be like envious of it because it is 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.040 the best of all of it, you know. It's like 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:39.679 I used to someone said, by my next book should 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.840 be like having it most because you can't really have 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.520 it all that you couldn't have a lot like you know. 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.240 I mean, you're going to miss out on stuff. 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.120 If you're a working parent, you're going to miss out 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.560 on being there for every moment for your kid. 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:53.440 It just it just is the facts. 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:55.440 And there's gonna be certain times in your life as 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.560 you know that it's inevitable that you're going to miss 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:02.160 these things, you know. So it's like, as someone who 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.600 worked full time on Chelsea Lately when I wrote and 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.200 produced that show for seven and a half years, I 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.160 was really lucky to have that job as pretty much 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.800 home every night, but I had a two hour commute 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:16.440 one hour each way, and like, so I did miss 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.799 you know, some of the childhood stuff. But since the 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.960 show's been off for almost I think eight years now, 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.960 my sons are twenty and seventeen, and I feel like 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.520 having the flexibility that I've had in the last seven 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:34.000 years just doing just stand up on the weekends occasionally, 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:38.040 not every weekend, and doing the podcast has I feel 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.440 like I was there more for what I believe, the 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.360 more important years, like the teenage years and stuff. But 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.239 I still feel bad about the poetry readings and stuff 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:46.920 I miss. You know. 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:51.000 It is very healthy though, as a parent and as 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:54.400 someone who was divorced for half of my kids kind 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.800 of childhood and going through it as a single parent, 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.080 it's important to realize you can't have it all and 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.760 that's okay. It's okay. You know, I grew up. I'm 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:05.639 I don't know how old you are. I'm fifty one. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.120 So you know my parents in the seventies worthy I 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.119 was a latch key kid me till you know, till 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.000 you just come home, open the door. You'd be alone 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:19.480 till dinner sometimes, and your parents warn't it every soccer practice, 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.799 your parents warned every poetry reading and then we went 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.600 to the helicopter mode. So I think we're okay, settling 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:26.560 somewhere in the middle. 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.160 You know what's really funny about that is so my dad. 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.160 So I'm fifty two and my dad had me at 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.560 like forty six. I was the youngest of five. I was, 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.480 you know, like the fifth mistake or whatever they joked about. 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:43.360 But it was fine, and so, you know, he he 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:46.200 grew up. He was a World War Two vette from 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:50.320 seventeen to twenty. And at one time my mom said 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:51.760 to him, what do you mean you're not going to 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.560 go to the boys. My older brothers played sports. You know, 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.480 you have to go to their games and everything. Didn't 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.200 your father always go to yours? And not until my 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.520 dad till my mom said that to my dad did 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:02.720 my dad realize. 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.600 And he was like an incredible. 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:09.000 Athlete, got a scholarship to hosta playing football, basketball, he 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.800 was like four letters. Not till that moment did he 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:15.400 realize that his dad never went to one of his games. 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.880 And his dad was a fireman, like a fire chief, 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.400 and he was Irish, but he was born in America, 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.839 and it like he never realized that his parents never 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.160 went because like that generation they didn't go well. 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:30.280 I don't know when that changed though. Of Yeah, when 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.440 I played sports kind of like you did, it wasn't 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.120 for my parents. The sports was for me. 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:40.600 Yeah, totally. And I mean the same thing I remember, 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:41.760 like I was doing. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.719 I was a cheerleader at Cresby the Boys' School and 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.560 I went to Louisville and you know, I did it 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.719 for one year and so I had my parents go 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.800 to one game, but they're kind of like why, Like 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.880 you're just cheering with these twelve other girls. And then 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.799 I didn't make it for varsity and I was so upset. 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.039 Mom's like, you weren't that good at it. It's not 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:04.760 what you should be doing. She goes, you should be 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.560 doing the plays. And that was like the first time 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:11.520 I realized that like being fired or having someone break 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.680 up with you, or you know, something like that is 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:18.000 always meant to be. You just don't realize it in 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.159 the moment, but it's always meant to be. Had I 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.920 made the cheerleading, like I, you know, I wouldn't have 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.280 had the great experience junior and senior year of like 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.839 really doing the theatrical art stuff is which what I 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:29.120 should be doing, not cheering. 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.680 Yeah, I always say, and having been through it, I 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.919 went through the last couple of years. You know, God 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.560 does grant us these blessings in our life. It doesn't 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.640 always come in this cute little gift wrap box under 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.200 the tree and go exactly how you saw in your dreams, 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.520 but right, nevertheless, it gives you those opportunities to do 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.560 what you should be doing, need to be doing. But 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.280 I felt so guilty when I was traveling around the 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.359 world for the show. You know, I would be, you know, 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.919 on a beach somewhere in Bora, Bora, whatever, and my 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.760 kids are playing in a big game, or my daughter 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.320 was in theater and she had a big play, and 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.239 you're sitting there and maybe you're watching it on FaceTime 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:07.960 at four in the morning. But you just feel so 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.160 detached and you feel so guilty. And we got to 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:13.560 give ourselves some grace on that. 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.320 Yeah, I mean, And there's just there are those moments 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:21.120 as a working parent who also travels, and I just remember, 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.960 like doing stand up, I was always getting booked for 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.200 Mother's Day weekend because every club would be like, oh, 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:28.880 let's get Heather. 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.160 She's a mom. People will take their moms, you know. 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.160 But that would That means like I would be at 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:39.120 some hotel on Mother's Day and seeing all these people 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.080 celebrating their mother at the brunch place or whatever, and 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.640 I was just like, oh my god, like it made 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.440 me so sad that I didn't like have that. But 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.039 then I was also like, but this is a big 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.360 weekend for me as a mother comedian, like I'm not 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.640 gonna and so you know, it is those times where 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.160 you're like, I just you have to make it when 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.320 you can make it, you know, And and you're gonna 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.600 miss You're gonna some stuff, and that's that's it. 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.320 Just know that you're gonna miss some stuff. I guess 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:05.440 kids don't care. 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:07.520 The kids they will never care. No, the kids are fine. 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.160 I mean, it's nice when they see you up there, 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:10.880 but they don't need you at every practice. They don't 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.480 need you at every single performance. And by the way, 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:14.840 it's great when they can call you and tell you 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.320 how they did and you can just listen right now. 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.440 And sometimes I'm like do you want me there and 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.280 they're like no, and I'm like all right, fine. Then 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.040 like if I'm gonna stress you out or you're like 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.520 I'm not that great in it, or whatever, and like 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.760 they're just like honest with me, you know. And what 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:31.480 I love is as the kids get older, I just 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:35.040 have such a good time with my sons, just like laughing, 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.280 like I'll just you know, and do it. Like I'll 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.280 just go on the golf cart with my son and 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.280 I don't even play until he'll play two balls. And 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.640 his name's Drake, and he'll play Drake one and Drake two, 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.120 and then I'll just whichever one is leading, that's the 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.000 one I'll do for the putting. And that's that and 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.120 we just like talk the whole time. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.800 You had this kind of famous incident where you passed 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.520 out on stage just back in twenty twenty two, and 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.800 this really triggered me so much. First of all, you 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.560 fractured your skull, got a concussion. Yes that that that 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.960 can last? Are you good now? Do you still have 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:09.960 the effects of that? 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.040 I mean yes, So when when people wi when I 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.400 say I cracked my skull, there was no bleeding, but 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.840 yes I had a cracked skull bleeding. Yes, yes, I 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.400 went so fast down. I never had faded before in 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.600 my life, certainly never on stage. But I've never fainted ever. 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.520 And and so I was like out of a movie 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:34.720 where I woke up and I'm like seeing you know, 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.680 people their faces ahead of me like a movie camera, 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:39.800 you know, like, oh my god. And I literally was like, 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.000 this can't be happening. This has to be a dream. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:46.040 And so I went to the hospital and everything, and 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.040 and they get say there might be some effects up 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.520 to two years. The only time I feel it is 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.680 sometimes once in a while if I'm like doing pilates 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.640 and I come up too fast or whatever, I'll be like, 0:08:58.000 --> 0:08:58.920 just give me a second. 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:00.959 So there's a little little bit of that. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.439 But that's like the it just not not in and 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.959 every day walking around, nothing like that. And it's never 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.439 happened since. And they have no idea why it happened, 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.400 and I don't know either, and. 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:13.559 Correct me if I'm wrong, because I think I went 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.560 back and watched it. You were literally talking about how 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:20.040 you just got vaccinated and you're I'm fine, there are 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.880 no effects. It almost seemed like you meant to do 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.480 it in the moment, like it was physical comedy. I'm 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:26.360 sure something today. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:27.880 They definitely thought it was. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.400 And I mean, and what kills me is that, like 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.160 it's not that funny because the way when I'm on 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:34.480 stage for an hour and fifteen. 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:36.480 You build up to the closer. 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.480 The beginning part is throw away jokes and whatever you 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.840 don't come out with like the great. So I was 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:48.160 coming out because it was still COVIDY time, and I 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.960 was just like, I had some COVID jokes, but my 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:55.760 jokes were very much on both sides. I really did 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:59.280 start to see like like stars and I. 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:03.400 Was like WHOA, Like, Okay, I don't know how. I'm thinking, 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:04.599 how am I going to get through an hour and 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.079 a half of this? This has got to pass. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.000 So in wanting it to pass, I just took like 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.040 a couple of steps as I was talking, thinking that 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.480 would like I don't know, and then and then I 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:15.560 just went down. 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:20.480 So when I saw this, it was so triggering because 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.040 what I have never passed out. I've never fainted in 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:27.600 my life. My greatest fear is fainting and passing out 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:32.040 on live TV on the set. And it's only almost 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.880 happened one time. It was been flantic season of the Bachelor, 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.839 and I was kind of sick. I had the flu, 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:39.679 as it turned out later, but so I was a 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.280 little bit feverish, I was dehydrated, and I was in 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.000 the middle of I don't know if you remember that season. 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:47.880 There's this girl, Courtney Robertson, who was the final choice, 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.319 and it was very controversial, and this was the big 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.880 first interview, and when we got into it, it got really. 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.479 Diff She she had like long, dark, hairy. 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.800 Beautiful girl, and it got really serious really quick, and 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:01.880 we dove into this and it was emotional, and all 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:06.160 of a sudden, I'm like, I can't I can't like 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.400 see you know, as you said, things start narrowing and 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.360 I'm like, I'm going to pass out. And you have 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.560 this inner monologue, which I'm sure you did. You start 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.400 thinking I'm gonna pass out. I'm going to pass out. 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.200 It got to the point where I was thinking, because 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.280 you know our set, we have nine thousand candles everywhere, 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.480 and I'm thinking, Okay, if you pass out, fall to 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.400 the left, because if you fall to the right, you're 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.720 gonna get a face full of hot wax and candles. 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:32.319 And I was kind of whispering into my microphone while 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:34.800 she was talking. The producer can kind of hear me. 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:38.920 I was whispering, Hey, we have to take a commercial break. 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.600 I'm gonna faint. I'm about to faint, please go to 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.720 Break and they're like, we gotta wait, we gotta wait, 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.640 this is amazing. I said, no, you don't understand. This, 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.440 can't wait. I am going down, And so somehow we 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.480 got to break. I was in a cold flop sweat. 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.640 I went backstage and made it to a couch and 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.960 just essentially all but passed out. And it took about 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:01.960 an hour before I could get off the couch and 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.600 come back and finish the show. But that's always been 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.560 my fear. And when I saw you, I'm like, oh 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.120 my gosh, it happens. 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:11.160 Yeah, I mean, it happens. 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.480 And I think that's why they, you know, with everything 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:14.680 going on, they they've. 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.280 Gotten a lot of people because. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.120 We do a lot more things on TV, you know, 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:22.160 or YouTube or whatever. Everything's filmed. There's cameras everywhere, so 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.280 it's like, I think it's just you know, a more 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.880 something you see. But what's interesting is that I someone 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.520 reminded me that on my podcast. 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.880 I have said I have a fan I have a 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:35.040 fainting fantasy. 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:39.400 Oh okay, I thought it was and I literally said, 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:43.200 like three years ago, I have a fainting fantasy where 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.760 I faint and then I look up and everybody's around 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.800 me and they're like, hey, there, what happened. But I 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.160 never thought, well, if you faint and you hit your head, 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:52.720 it's gonna be painful. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:54.360 I just I always. 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.640 Imagine it like fainting in a movie, like on a 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.839 soft couch, and then like what happened. 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.240 Like strong fireman's arms. 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:05.200 Yeah, but I will tell you, yeah, it's not a 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.559 fun thing and I should not have manifested that at all. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:25.200 It's not sexy doing it face planning on stage, speaking 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:29.880 of you know, our biggest fear having these catastrophes and 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:34.360 live moments. Love is Blind was supposed to go live 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:38.079 with their reunion show with Nick and Vanessa hosting, and 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:42.040 something happened at Netflix. Somebody kicked a chord out, somebody 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:46.680 forgot to reboot, and Netflix could not get the live 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.559 feed up, and they kept promising, it's going to be 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.800 a minute, it's going to be fifteen minutes, it's going 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.760 to be another hour. It never got up. It's finally 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.000 up today. They just stopped and said we're going to 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:00.520 record it and put it up. But that was a 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:04.360 pretty epic moment of not being able to do live television. 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.880 I didn't even really realize that it was live till 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:09.760 you just said it. I just thought it was scheduled 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.440 and it wasn't going up. But I had watched Love 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:15.720 is Blind in the past, and I had not watched it. 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.360 I had, you know, it downloaded on to watch on 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.960 a plane, but instead I read Paris Hilton's book because 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:26.040 I'm a reader. And so then when my my friend 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:30.000 who's on the show today for tomorrow, Sarah Klona, She's like, oh, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.560 I can't get the no one can get the Love 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:34.880 is Blind reunion. And it was like six forty five, 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.080 and I'm like, you know what, I'm just going to 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.920 like sped through the thirteen episodes so that when it's 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.920 up I can talk about it tomorrow. So I still 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.000 haven't seen it because it never was up as of 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.000 ten pm last night when I went to bed. But 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.440 between six forty five and ten I did get through 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:52.200 the whole season. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.760 They caught a lot of flak online, and being a comedian, 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:57.360 I'm going to run these by you. 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:59.640 I thought the oh wait, let me just wait, let 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.040 me ask, do you think this might have been on purpose? No, 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.600 because people like me ended up watching it. So this 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.280 watched the whole season yeah. 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.160 I am of the opinion some people are saying it's 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.400 a big deal and it's going to hurt Netflix, It'll 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.560 hurt Love is Blind. I am not in that camp. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.760 I do not think it hurts them. I think Netflix 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.640 is a fifty thousand pound gorilla. There's still the gold 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.160 standard in streaming. I don't think it's going to hurt 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.080 them in the long run. But this was a move 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.720 to continue off the Chris Rock special, which was live 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.240 that we can that we can do live TV. We're 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.520 not just a streamer anymore. We can do live events. 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.440 Amazon has Thursday Night Football they're doing live now. So 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.360 this kind of move to doing live events is a 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.960 big deal for these streamers to get that live content. 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.640 And so this was a pretty big gaff. I don't 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.520 think it's the kind of press that hurts you that bad. 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:49.880 Because everybody's talking about it. I wouldn't be talking about 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:50.800 Love is Blind today. 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:53.640 You know, it is crazy that we were able to 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.520 live stream the landing on the Moon but not the reunion. 0:15:57.800 --> 0:15:59.680 That was the joke. So I was going to run 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:01.000 these bys. 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.200 Like I'm like, oh really, because I'm like, you know, 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:03.960 and I still kind of listen. 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.560 I like the TikTok so I am. 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.760 I remember Keena Everywayne said when I wrote White Chicks 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.000 with Keenan and the guys, and I remember he was 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:14.920 the first one that put the doubt in my mind 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:16.040 about the landing on the moon. 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.600 Wasn't the Moon Landing live in nineteen sixty nine? Although 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.440 you know, some people believe it was on a set 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:26.080 somewhere in Hollywood, which is we'll see. So Trina Water said, 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.480 wasn't the Moon Landing live? And then there was another 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:33.760 good joke, Oh Hunter why? Harris said, Hey, Netflix, have 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.240 you thought about putting it in a bag of rice? 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:40.080 That's a good one. 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:45.480 That's pretty good. Yeah, I like it, But again, I 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.280 don't think you know everybody jumped on lines said oh 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:51.200 this is really a big deal. It's not a big 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.720 deal because if you love the show, you're just gonna 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:55.880 you're gonna find it. It's that's what streaming is all about. 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.840 It would have been nice as a television host, and 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.120 I'm sure you may feel the same way. I just 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.040 want to see these things go off with that hitch. 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.320 I want to see them work because I think it's 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.520 important to just keep progressing and have more live TVs. 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.520 And have more live events. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:12.680 Yeah. Absolutely, yeah. 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.800 I didn't even really realize. I didn't really associate it 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.959 with being live. I just thought, you know, they always 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:20.760 do they do that where you can binge it, but 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:22.760 then you've got to wait a couple weeks or whatever. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.679 So I thought that was like the anticipation, like are 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.960 these couples still together? We saw these three got married, 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.480 this one didn't. I didn't even think about the fact 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.120 of what you're saying, of why it is important as 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:38.280 like a television aspect of having live streaming stuff. 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:39.679 Do you watch that show? 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:40.000 I do. 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:41.760 I have a little bit just because I watch a 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.760 little bit of everything that just kind of comes into 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.119 this world just so I can see who's hosting, who's 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.639 producing it. Some of my friends produce on all these shows. 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.359 I want to see what they're up to, see what 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.560 the spin is on, you know, kind of our original 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.600 idea of Bachelor, Bachelerette and where it's where it is now. 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:01.120 But the live of it all, it's I was thinking back. 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.760 We did so many live events on The Bachelor, and 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.240 I hosted Miss America for many years. I did the 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:12.960 Spelling Bee at ESPN, all those events. It's just commonplace. 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:16.159 You don't even think about it not going live and 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.560 the fact that it won't work. I mean that part 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.000 you got to have down. I mean the satellites up. 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.919 You can see the satellites up if New York can 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.760 see you, and vice versa. I don't know where this 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:28.640 mishap happened. It's just crazy. 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:30.439 I watched The Love Is Blind and I've watched it 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.479 in the past, and I do think it's interesting that 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.480 I said, anybody that goes on this show really should 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:42.719 be going on one hundred percent to really find a spouse, 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:46.400 because these people aren't really popping after like the way 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:51.359 in the past where the Bachelor and Bachelors, the people 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.440 are not popping like they did five years ago either. 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.879 But you know where you'd have all these opportunities and stuff. 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.840 It's just they really don't. It's like, if you're doing 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.040 it to try to get a whole new career, this 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:04.160 is not. 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:05.160 The show to do. 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:05.760 Yeah. 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:07.200 I agree, there's too. 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:09.040 Many people and if they don't pop. 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:10.960 Yeah, and I don't think this is not a knock 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.520 on the Bachelor Bacherette, but that world is not the 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:17.240 same social relevant world it was either. I mean, these 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:19.960 people come off the show, and they may have tens 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:24.000 of thousands of followers, but when we used to name 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:26.199 somebody a week or two later, they would have a million, 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.760 two million, three million followers and they would become huge 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:32.560 influencers and make a ton of money. And that world 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.439 just doesn't exist anymore. And maybe we're just oversaturated with 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:40.560 influencers and the pendulum swings on all these things. And so, yeah, 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:42.679 it's not Love is Blind. It's really not The Bachelor. 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:44.480 It's just I think it's the world we live in now, 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:45.600 which is really interesting. 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.160 Yeah, And so it's kind of and it is interesting 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.040 because if you're not going to get that part of it, 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:53.600 you know, like a whole nother career. 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:54.920 Because there was a. 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:59.919 Time, Yeah, I was talking to Kelt who said, you know, 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.560 when she wanted to be a host on things, they said, 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:05.919 go on the Bachelor. If you want to break into 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:09.159 being like an entertainment Tonight host, try to get on 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.560 The Bachelor and go that route. Like it really was 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:15.800 like a way to be exposed. And now I feel like, no, 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:19.439 I mean that you get paid nothing, which also I 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:23.119 think you don't get great people that are able to 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:27.000 leave their illustrious career you're not getting a lot of 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.639 partners in a law firm that can leave to go 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.240 beyond the Bachelor or love is Blind for seven weeks. 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:35.920 Right, it used to be, and you just that that 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:38.679 doesn't exist anymore either. That's a really difficult thing. You 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:41.600 know the Aaron Bergey who was a bank owner, Andrew 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:45.280 Firestone who had the vineyard, you know those every now 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:48.439 and then you get that nugget the quality guys. 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.439 Yeah, no, you really don't, though, I mean for that 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.199 exact reason. And then also I was like, and I 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:55.320 hate that it always. 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:55.760 Just has to be. 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:59.199 Someone from the Batch that was left over, right Like, 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:00.640 it's never like you know. 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:03.680 It didn't used to be. And that's the thing too. Yeah, 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:05.960 you know I get it because I was there, and 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:08.879 I get the built in audience. But it's a built 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:11.439 in audience when it was successful. If you didn't have 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:14.520 a good season. Uh, for example, you know you're coming 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.040 off this last season of the batchler which was the 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:20.359 lowest rated ever. Well, if you pull someone from that season, 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:22.960 no matter how popular, you're still coming off a very 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:27.040 low rated season. So we always knew, Okay, if you 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:28.920 came off a really bad season, maybe you got to 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:31.200 shake things up, and you got to find somebody different 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:34.560 because whatever you have this batch isn't working for whatever 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:37.600 reason that is. So you're right to a certain degree 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:39.040 that you got to go out and find some of 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:43.240 those nuggets. But it's just an easy, safe pick, right, 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:45.840 it's as a producer, as a casting it's really safe 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:46.200 and easy. 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:46.960 I don't even know. 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.560 Did they did. I didn't watch this season. Did they 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:51.800 pick someone already to be the Bachelorette? 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:53.479 I believe that, yeah, because I think they're in production 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:55.440 right now, so they're already, they're already shooting. 0:21:56.040 --> 0:22:01.919 Yeah, So yeah, I talked about it with what is 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:06.000 his name, Jason? Is it Jason Jason who's engaged to 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:07.520 Caitlin Bristow. 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:08.800 Oh yeah, yeah, Jason Tartick. 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:09.520 Yeah. 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:13.840 I talked about it with him, and I said, yeah, 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:16.960 it's just also the guys I mean are just not 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:18.359 my type. 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:21.800 I mean, and he like, you know, I liked like 0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:22.560 the clean. 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:25.880 Cut, like businessman dude and like you know, and they're 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:28.240 I think they're just trying to like appeal to a 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:29.719 younger audience, which they should. 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:31.960 Yeah, well, it's also who's going to sign up? You 0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:34.879 know that. I think it's Yeah, it's both right, but 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:36.960 it is. It's a very interesting world. And again that 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.119 pendulum swings and it'll find its way. 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:41.399 Wait, what do you think about the senior stuff? 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:44.879 Did you see that they're trying to cast a senior Bachelor, 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:47.000 which I remember they tried a long time ago. 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.520 We were green lit to do that. We were actually 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:52.639 going to do it in the fall of what was 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:56.119 what was pandemic year number one, twenty twenty, So we 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:57.960 were supposed to do it in the fall of twenty twenty, 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:00.919 and the show was greenlit, already been picked up, and 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:02.680 we were going to go into production. I think after 0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:05.119 The Bachelor or Paradise one of those, we're going to 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:09.119 squeeze it in there. And obviously the pandemic happened, and 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:12.800 they've talked about bringing it back, but I don't know 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:17.199 if that's really viable now considering the ratings of the 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:19.600 show and where the franchise is right now. I don't 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:22.920 know if you can launch another show unless it maybe 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:25.359 goes straight to streaming. Who knows. But they also need content. 0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:27.560 But I thought I thought it was an interesting idea. 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.840 It's something we had talked about and thrown around for years, 0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:33.840 and it's something that when I'm in public, I would 0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:37.840 always get that from older people in my age group 0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:41.320 and older like, hey, what about us divorces or widows 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:44.280 or whatever. So it's not a bad concept if it's 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:44.800 done right. 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.280 I think what could work, And you can take my 0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:49.199 idea and run with it. 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:51.480 Let's do this together, co executive producers. 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.760 I do think people. 0:23:56.040 --> 0:24:00.720 Keep it tight between the ages of like like forty 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:04.960 six and like fIF and forty, like between forty six 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:10.400 and like fifty eight, because it's not seniory like senior citizen. 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.960 It's not like goofy, and you know, people can look 0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:16.679 really good at those ages still, and that's when a 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:21.320 lot of people are divorced and looking for them at 0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:22.080 that next thing. 0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:25.760 Yeah right here, raising my hand. Yeah, that's exactly when 0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:28.040 I got divorced. I was thirty nine, forty years old. 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:30.600 That's yeah, it's when a lot of us hit forty 0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:31.360 and you kind. 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:34.240 Of have that yeah, like like like forty fifties. That 0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:35.640 is what I think it should be. I don't think 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:38.280 it should be like sixty to seventy. I don't think 0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:41.280 it should be that. And then you know, if if 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.880 the girl is like fifty two and the guy's forty five, 0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:46.400 it doesn't really matter because no one's trying to have kids, 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.440 but you're also like young and hot, and it can't 0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:52.600 and you can still be really competitive, like with the 0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:56.760 other women or the other men, because they I mean 0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:58.320 my friends that were dating. 0:24:58.520 --> 0:24:59.520 You know it. 0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.600 It's kind of fascinating the beginning, and then they realize like, 0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:06.040 oh my god, he's dating all these other women because 0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:08.679 you know, these women are just so happy that some 0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.520 guy like owns a home, you know, so they're like thrilled. 0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:14.800 And then he's like and he and he's never you know, 0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:17.720 he had to work so hard to get laid in college, right, 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:20.920 got married at twenty seven, you know, and now he's 0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:24.240 fifty and he looks pretty decent, and he opens up 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:26.520 an app and he could have a different chick there 0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:30.640 every night, like waiting to blow him, like every night, 0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:32.840 and it's like that guy doesn't even know what to do. 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:36.520 And then the girl is like, oh, I think I'm special, 0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.800 but then she realizes, like, no, there, so I think 0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:43.040 it would be a really fun interesting that's an interesting 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:44.160 social experiment. 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:46.280 It is a wild world. I mean when I became 0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:49.080 single again, you know, all of a sudden dating and 0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:51.720 this modern age of all the apps, and it wasn't 0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:53.960 even as bad as it is now, you know, But 0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:56.639 being able to swipe over somebody and just go and 0:25:56.680 --> 0:26:00.240 go and it's it's it is something I think. I agree. 0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:02.879 I think that age age range would be very good, 0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:05.840 very desirable. I want to talk to you more too, 0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:09.680 about just comedy in general. I'm a big fan of comedy, 0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:12.840 fan of yours. And you know I mentioned that Chris 0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:17.359 Rock special. Yeah, I thought it, Chris, I thought was brilliant. 0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.240 I thought it was great. Again. I think that's what 0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.040 comedy is for. I think it's for pushing boundaries. It's 0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:26.520 for questioning everything. That's what great comedy used to do. 0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:29.600 But you know, then there's the other side of the spectrum, 0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:31.680 the nay Bergazi's of the world, which I also love 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:35.520 and appreciate, and they're super clean. How difficult is comedy 0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:39.199 these days? Is it scary? Is that something you worry about? 0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:40.800 Or do you just keep doing what you're doing? 0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:45.359 Well? I think you've always do. 0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:48.880 You do have to adjust with the times and throughout 0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:52.680 the twenty plus years or thirty years, let me see 0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:54.760 how yeah, like it's all amost thirty years since the 0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.680 first time I've like actually done stand up that I've 0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:00.760 been doing it. Yeah, there's Joe folks that I don't 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.440 do anymore. And there were jokes that all of a 0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:06.280 sudden someone came up and was like, I loved your show, 0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:08.480 but I wish you wouldn't have said this word because 0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:12.000 of this, and I was like, done, never said again, 0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:14.320 cut it out of my act. Thank you for pointing 0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:18.040 it out. And I think the greatest thing is Sarah Silverman. 0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:21.359 I will give her credit for this. She did an 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:25.200 apology to Paris Hilton because she made jokes when Paris 0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:28.040 was in the audience when she hosted the MTV Awards, 0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.040 and it really hurt Paris, and Paris revealed that and 0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:34.919 she said, comedy is not evergreen. And I think that 0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.440 is looking brilliant because what someone says five years ago, 0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.760 ten years ago, fifteen years ago, it's not evergreen. It's 0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:45.480 appropriate for the time. And a good comedian is willing 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.440 to throw away, not throw away, but you retire jokes anyway. 0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:50.600 That's why people have a new hour every year. You're 0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.520 not supposed to do the same act for twenty years. 0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.919 Some people do, but you're not really, so I mean, 0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.560 you should be careful about what you say in your tweet, obviously, 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.000 but I also think there should you know, Yeah, I 0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:05.040 mean watch your romantic comedy from like two thousand and eight, 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:06.480 and your jaw will be on the floor. 0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:07.600 It's so inappropriate. 0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.440 Every gen z would like turn it off and cry 0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.600 like it's not okay, but it's not for today. 0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:16.280 Yeah, we's so, you know, like Jennifer Aniston has come 0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:19.960 out and been very public about Friends and how Yeah, 0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:24.560 some stuff doesn't hold up. Yeah, from Friends and obviously 0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:28.560 just the Friends cast doesn't hold up to today's standards 0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:32.320 or New York. But you know, the the question is 0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:37.240 do you have that grace the understanding to educate, change, 0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:41.160 evolve and even on a smaller scale of like, hey, 0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:44.520 you started with fart jokes as a comedia, you've elevated 0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:45.760 your game, You've elevated. 0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:47.760 I mean, I always say the biggest thing that makes 0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:52.040 a stand up great is just being truly authentic to yourself, 0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:53.320 telling the truth about. 0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:54.640 Your life, your point of view. 0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:57.959 And I always tell young people that, like, you know, 0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:00.400 just if you're looking around and you see every young 0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.440 girl female comedian talking about sex and this and that 0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:06.640 and whatever, that's fine if your life. And what I 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.320 liked about Chris Rock's special is this one part where 0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:12.840 he talks about now he's a divorced guy in his 0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:16.600 fifties and why it's easier to date the sugar baby 0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:19.440 who's twenty five, who's so impressed by an eight hundred 0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.160 dollars pair of shoes versus the forty five year old 0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:26.240 girlfriend who's like, can you fix clean out my gutter? 0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:27.640 Yeah, clean out my gutters. 0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:32.719 I thought that was so real because we all think, 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.240 like as a woman, were like, oh my god, like 0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:38.760 I'm hot, I've established myself, i have a career, i 0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.640 have a home. But also that woman is not going 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.240 to be as impressed with your brand new car, right, 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.120 Like it's just it is what it. 0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:47.360 Is, exact the opposite. 0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:50.479 Yeah, And so it's like I just thought that is 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.640 that is such an honest perspective of a divorced guy 0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.600 who's got some money who's dating I. 0:29:57.920 --> 0:29:59.800 And so I'm like, he told his truth. 0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.800 We were talking about, you know, Chris Rock dealing with 0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.080 the Will Smith things so brilliantly, and I thought it 0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.920 to wait to sit on that for a year and 0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.479 a half, to you know, to let it marinate and 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.920 cook and then to come out the way he did 0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:27.400 I thought was brilliant. Will Smith is back. He's back 0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:31.920 on set. They've seen him shooting Bad Boys four with 0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.920 Martin Lawrence there in Atlanta. I I'll be honest, I 0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:38.920 didn't know there was a Bad Boys three. Apparently not 0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:40.960 only was there a Bad Boys three, it was huge. 0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:44.680 It made like over four hundred million dollars worldwide, was 0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.720 a massive hit, right before COVID hit. But there's gonna 0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:51.120 be a Bad Boys four. And Will Smith he kind of, 0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.600 you know, he kind of came back with the last show, 0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.320 what Emancipation, but that was already in the can. It 0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:58.400 was a small budget. This is going to be probably 0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:02.200 his first kind of big budget, big franchise to come 0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:04.600 back with. What do you think can he come back? 0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:07.360 Will we accept him back the old Will Smith in 0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:08.040 this old role. 0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:14.320 I don't think we'll ever accept will never accept them 0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:18.480 as the couple. Remember when they would dress alike and everybody, 0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.120 And I remember again with the waynes I said after 0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.920 Tom and Nicole broke up, this is a long time ago. 0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.520 Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. Yeah, I remember, I said, 0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:28.840 if Jada and Will ever break up people are to 0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:30.440 lose their minds because it was one of those that 0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:31.960 they were the original couple goals. 0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:34.320 They had the blended family. 0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.320 They did a WB series about a blended their blended family. 0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:39.040 They the kids were so cute. 0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.640 The boy looked like her, the girl looked like him, 0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:45.040 like you know, everything they dressed alike, that she was 0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:47.320 petite and he was tall, and they had their funny 0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:50.680 moments on Oprah and everything. Now we know the truth 0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:53.959 about their deep relationship and how weird it is, and 0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.920 nobody's goal is to have an open marriage twenty years in. 0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.160 I mean, if this is like a big budget movie 0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:02.080 that people will go see, yes, but it won't be 0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:05.960 I just don't think anyone in this age is like 0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:09.160 a true fan for anybody really anymore. 0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.040 Like they're just like, hey, if it's a cool movie 0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:11.640 and it's. 0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:13.560 You're sitting at home, I don't know if people will 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.960 be like going to the theater to go see it. 0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.440 But like, he's a good he's a good actor, he's 0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:19.400 a good looking guy. 0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:22.000 He'll never be as funny to me, like, because I'll 0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:23.600 always think of that moment. 0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:25.360 It's hard to get it out of your head. It's 0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:26.240 hard not to see that. 0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:30.120 I mean I predicted that he would just do like 0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:32.800 a more serious net. I think you should have done 0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:36.080 a more serious like Netflix type of streaming series. 0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:39.280 To get our feet wet, where we not him being 0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:41.680 like haha and like laughing like it would have been. 0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:43.920 There was kind of emancipation right when he came back 0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.600 with Apple, but it just was too soon and most 0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:48.240 people never even knew it existed. 0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:53.120 These people that think they're they're done forever. Nobody's done forever. 0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:54.200 Louis c K. 0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:58.240 What is kind of good about the world today? Yes, 0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:02.080 will you get that big ensement again? Maybe you won't. 0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.880 Will you get to be the host of the Today 0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:08.160 Show anymore? Maybe you won't. But if you can find 0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:11.600 other mediums to be, you know, show your talent in 0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:14.160 like a Louis c K. Whatever, people are like, I 0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:17.680 don't care, like I still think you're and that's their prerogative. Like, 0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:21.200 and that's the comedy club. If the comedy owner wants 0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:24.640 to have Luis c K come over someone that sells 0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:26.520 half the amount of tickets, they want him because they 0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.360 know he's going to sell out and then he's going 0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.720 to sell that many more drinks. They have the right 0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.000 to have him, and you have the right to never 0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.440 go to see him or never go to that club again, 0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:38.400 and like that's life. 0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.400 It's like Netflix that did that huge Dave Chappelle's show 0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:43.520 and everybody, you know, they were up in arms over there. 0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:49.480 It's like, but it returned huge dividends. Millions and millions 0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.240 and millions of people watched. It was a massive success. 0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:55.760 So where what do you do with that? 0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:00.000 I just think, you know, it's just it's it's great 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.680 that everyone has a voice, you know, because everyone can 0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.640 make a comment and everyone can put a post, and 0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:07.760 I think that's fine. 0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.120 That's what I love about having a podcast, having this 0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:12.520 platform to be able to talk and having normal conversation 0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:15.440 with you or with anybody. Is It's that's kind of 0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.400 the beauty of this. Out in your neck of the woods. 0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:22.719 Coachella is going on. Yeah, you know, Coachella. It's this 0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:25.080 thing that started out as a music festival years ago. 0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.040 Then it was a place to try molly, Then it 0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:31.520 became a place to do your fashion influencing. Now it's 0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:35.360 like the place where publicists send their clients to be photographed. 0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:38.160 You know, if you're seeing at Coachella, that's like the 0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.000 thing now, So I want to run these by you. 0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:45.719 Sean Mendez and Camilla Cabello. Are they back together? They 0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:51.000 were together during Quarantine broke up scene of course at Coachella, 0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:54.239 you know, keeping a low profile at Coachella, making out 0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:57.279 during one of the sets and you know, snuggling and 0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.479 a lot of PDA. Are they back together you think? 0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.319 I mean I always thought the relationship was kind of 0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:05.760 fake and like a beard or either. 0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.400 One of them or both or either one. 0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:09.520 But now I kind of feel like, oh, maybe that 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.759 was real and good for them, you know, I think 0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:16.040 there I think, you know, when you're that too high 0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:20.560 profile people, it's it's hard to find, you know, find somebody, 0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:23.000 and sometimes you go back and recycle an old boyfriend. 0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:25.399 So I hope they're together. That's good. 0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:27.120 If it's real, then I think it is real. If 0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:29.520 it's if they come back this many years now, I 0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:30.560 think it was always real. 0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:32.960 Their mom on the subject right now. This one I'm 0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.320 not so sure about. Leonardo DiCaprio was seen with Bradley 0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:41.160 Cooper's X Arena shake. They were hanging at the Neon Carnival, 0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.279 as one does there at Coachella, but there were a 0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:48.680 lot of other celebs around Stella, Maxwell, Toby Maguire, so 0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:51.279 you know, I don't know. I think it's just DiCaprio 0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:52.160 being DiCaprio. 0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.920 Well, I went to that Neon Okay Carnival, Like I 0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.600 never really did the Coachella thing because it was kind 0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:02.439 of like after my time of like doing anything like that. 0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:05.040 And I did go to the Near Carnival a couple 0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.080 of years ago only because it was like a VIP 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:09.399 experience and somebody gave me the tickets and I did 0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:10.879 think it was fun. And you do see a lot 0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.560 of stars, so yeah, who knows if they really did. 0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:16.640 But like Leonardo DiCaprio, I love that he has like 0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:20.279 become the Jack Nicholson of our time and everyone realizes, 0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:22.480 like why do you only date people that are like 0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:26.200 And then he tries to date Jijia Hadid like she's 0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.920 like an older single mother to him, right, you know, 0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.360 but like, hey, but I mean, he is. 0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:33.880 The Jack Nicholson, And I don't know if that's appropriate. 0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:35.719 By the way, if you saw that picture of Jack 0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.919 Nicholson the other day on his balcony, that's be careful, Leo. 0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:44.680 The future is not kind. But I you know, we 0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:46.719 will see about Leo, but I think he is a 0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:49.080 fascinating character, and you're right, he's kind of just he 0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.520 has become a caricature of this generation. 0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.760 Right, which is kind of a bummer really, But anyway, 0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:56.239 for who cares, he's doing fun. 0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:12.160 This is a story I know you love vander pump Rules. Yes, 0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:16.200 the you know Tom Sandoval scandalval the big cheating incidant. 0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.080 So Arianna, the woman that was cheated on in this 0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:25.160 scandal was at Coachella. Shocker. She was being snapped and 0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:29.799 taking pictures alongside some mystery man. First of all, if 0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:32.280 there's a woman who ever deserves just a good public 0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.600 outing and go make out with everybody and be seen, 0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:38.160 good on you, Arianna, go do it. But also a 0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:42.040 great publicist is like get to Coachella, just like let's 0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:44.360 get you out there, smart all the way around. 0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:48.040 Well you know those all those girls and guys, they 0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:49.160 would go every year too. 0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:51.479 But I'm really glad that she went. 0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.360 And I believe the guy is like a personal trainer 0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.200 and he's kind of like a friend within all with 0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.759 all of them. And good for her for you know, 0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.040 getting some you know, fresh stick and having some fun 0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:06.839 on a sunny weekend in Coachella, and I think it's 0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.960 great that talk about lemonade, you know, making lemons out 0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:13.360 of lemonade. She's doing Dancing with the Stars, she got 0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:18.400 a collab with Bloomingdale's. She's a really pretty girl anyway, 0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:22.320 And so hopefully this will because I kind of felt 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.560 like a lot of these people that do these shows, 0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:27.480 I'm like, they really have to get some other businesses going. 0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:31.560 And she and Katie we're going to do this sandwich shop, 0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:35.040 and like the sandwich shop was like never happening. I 0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.000 don't know if it was like a storyline whatever they say. 0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:41.640 They have a actual like a rest, you know, a storefront, 0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:44.640 but it hasn't started. This girl doesn't want to make 0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:51.360 Sandwichesatie putting up. No, go do dancing with the Stars 0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.640 and get something else going that interest you that does 0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:55.720 not require you. 0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:57.440 To like, you know, slice some meat. 0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:02.040 Yeah yeah, I mean not referencing the dick from other 0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.880 fresh meat exactly. And by the way, if you're not 0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:08.080 into the Coachella stuff, don't worry. The redneck version Stage 0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:10.799 Coach will have plenty of headlines I'm sure coming up 0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:12.080 in a couple of weeks as well. 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.759 Well, listen, I have to tell you I we we 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:17.879 have a we built a house out there. 0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:19.600 My sister lives out there. 0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:20.640 Is out in Palm Springs. 0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:22.760 Yes, I have Palm Desert Lakingta. 0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:26.799 I will be there this second weekend of Stage of 0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:31.520 uh Coachella and Stage Coach. I have absolutely no tickets 0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:33.320 and no invitations. 0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:36.000 I am putting it out there are begging. 0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:38.360 You're sitting here begging for tickets. 0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:40.520 Huge not necessarily tickets. 0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:42.760 I'd rather go to like the influencer type of parties 0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.200 where it's the afternoon and it's not crowded, but there's 0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:48.040 still some music playing and I get like some like 0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:49.560 free salad. 0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:50.640 And like, you know, a cocktail. 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:54.800 Heather McDonald straight up asking for VIP access from all let. 0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:58.440 Reach out to me and I would like to just 0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:00.000 hit a couple easy. 0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:03.160 Events, slide into your DMS, just make it so exactly exactly. 0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.960 I went to Stage Coach one year because Jake Owens 0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:07.759 was playing. We went out and played a little golf 0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:10.319 and Garth Brooks was performing Who I Love, And so 0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:14.160 I did Stage Coach. Very windy, very hot, very dusty. 0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:16.120 A lot of people. 0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:18.560 Now did you go like in the day or did 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:20.680 you just go at night? Like, I don't understand how 0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:21.759 long you're supposed to be there. 0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.280 I'm not gonna lie I went at night. I didn't. 0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:26.160 I didn't do the whole day. There were some specific 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:29.000 people I wanted to see, Jake and Garth, you know, 0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:32.800 among them, and so I kind of went for the evenings. Yeah, 0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:35.960 And that was honestly enough for me. I don't love 0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:39.000 I don't love crowds. I don't love that element. That 0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:42.040 just doesn't do it for me. I would much rather 0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.200 be sitting like kind of in an arena or some 0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.480 maybe a smaller like I love going to Hollywood Bowl 0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.760 sitting in you know that venue totally. 0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:51.920 And you have your own little box with your wine 0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:53.200 and your food. I like. 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:58.240 And yes, yeah, yeah, I'm bougie, Heather, I'm very boogie. 0:40:58.280 --> 0:40:59.480 I know this about myself though. 0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:02.480 It's all it's all good, and I do think it's 0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:04.600 interesting because I'm like, I understand why you have to 0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:08.680 buy like the three day pass whatever, but I'm because 0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:11.760 that's the smarter way to go marketing wise. But truly, 0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:15.360 whether it's like Bravo con or this, I'm good with 0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:16.040 one day. 0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:19.279 I never want to go back the next. It's a 0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:20.000 lot to go back. 0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:23.360 And Coachelle is a lot, but hey, if you're an influencer, 0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:27.759 it's worth the pain, do it. Speaking of pain, before 0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:30.919 I let you go, because Palm Springs, you mentioned Palm Springs, 0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.600 that's where Coachella is. You had a little drama in 0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:36.279 Palm Springs a couple of weeks ago, and this like 0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:39.960 much talked about all these headlines. What in the world 0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:41.680 happened in Palm Springs. 0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:45.759 We've been friends for like five years. She's come to 0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:49.200 my birthday. We text each other, we're all hanging out together, 0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:52.040 and we went to the B and P tennis the together, 0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:56.200 and then later that night we're just talking about something 0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:58.360 and then all of a sudden, she like switches to 0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:02.960 change the subject and basically tells me that she doesn't 0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:06.560 like me. Nobody in that world likes me, nobody wants 0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:11.719 to do the show with me. Like it was every horrible, 0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:18.080 like triggering, Like literally, I was a Catholic schoolgirl that 0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:21.319 was invited to a public school girl slumber party, and 0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.600 I thought they all liked me, but they only invited 0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:26.560 me to tell me that they hate me. It was that, 0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:31.600 and I just was shocked and I know how Jeff 0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:34.359 works his show, and his show is his radio show is. 0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:35.160 A reality show. 0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:38.319 So anything that happens in his world, whether it's his 0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:41.920 personal life with his family and his child, romance, or 0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:44.280 any of the people that are regulars on the show, 0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:47.440 He's going to share it. And I already knew he 0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.680 knew about it, So I was like, I just I 0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:54.040 got to control this narrative. So I have a Patreon, 0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.319 and I feel like my people that have supported me 0:42:56.320 --> 0:43:00.360 on Patreon, I keep the personal stuff for Patrio. I 0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.400 don't really do that too much personal stuff on my 0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:05.560 regular Tuesday Thursday show, so I put it on there. 0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:08.399 And also I gave her plenty of time to reach 0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:11.560 out and apologize. And also I knew his show goes 0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:14.799 out Monday at nine. Mine goes out Tuesday morning. And 0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:20.799 I've been in the position of having to defend myself 0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:23.520 or rewrite you, or try to correct the narrative. And 0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:25.360 I'm like, I'm just going to tell you how I felt. 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:27.920 And the only way I felt was my feelings were 0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:31.640 really hurt. Well then, because then people thought she was 0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:33.719 an appul for doing it, which she was. 0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:36.719 She didn't like that people knew that she was an asshole. 0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:38.520 Well that's not my fault. 0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:42.160 Life is too short and equally too long to be 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.560 surrounded by people who don't love and adore you and 0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:49.239 support you. And yeah, secondly, I find you fabulous and 0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:52.520 I'm glad you're here, and I true know, seriously, I 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:54.880 truly appreciate you being here. I feel like you and 0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:58.520 I could just talk for days and days. I like 0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:01.919 you the way you are unabashedly able to just talk 0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:04.560 about stuff. I think it's so important and it's very 0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:05.920 refreshing and I appreciate it. 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:08.920 Well, thank you, and I'll just give my plugs in 0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.960 and make it life easy. So my show is Juicy Scoop. 0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:14.560 It's been around, it'll be eight years in July. It's 0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.359 every Tuesday and Thursday. And if you want to join, 0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:19.000 what I talk about is patron. You just go to 0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.200 heatherbrick Dahala dot net and you click on patroon, but 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:24.719 also at Heatherbygdald dot net. Are my live shows coming up? 0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.319 I have a live Juicy Scoop in Vegas in May, 0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:30.440 but I also have like a combo where it's Juicy 0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:32.480 Scoop and stand up. I have all my regulars on 0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:34.480 it's always comedy, it's always pop culture. 0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:36.080 It's always fresh and new. 0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:39.600 And I have a bunch of summer shows coming up 0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.960 from the East Coast to San Francisco to Irvine. 0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:45.320 Okay, so in the country you hit in the Midwest, 0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:45.680 do you come in. 0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:48.359 Across not really, not necessarily a country. I'm not doing 0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:51.320 that many. I'm just doing Yeah, I'm just doing East 0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:56.080 Coast in August and San Francisco and in September, like 0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:59.000 I said, and then San Diego Humphreys by the Bay, 0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:01.239 which is a huge venue. It's my biggest show I'll 0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:04.560 be doing, and that's in San Diego and it's like 0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:06.840 an outdoor kind of a thing, which I'm excited about. 0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:08.759 So that's all at Heather dgald Nett. 0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:12.200 It's great comedy and fun and come see the shows 0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:13.160 and I appreciate it. 0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:16.160 And listen to the podcast Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald 0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:18.480 and for everything else you can go to the website. 0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:21.319 And again, thanks for being here. I appreciate the time. 0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:25.080 Thank you, take care all right, bye bye. 0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:30.080 My thanks to Heather McDonald for joining me. Comedian, actor, 0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:34.000 best selling author, and she has the podcast as well. 0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:37.080 It's just refreshing to talk about, just get her take 0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:40.000 on everything, and it's one of the things again, I 0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:42.399 love about this podcast, just bringing different people on from 0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:45.640 different walks of life and getting their take and their perspective. 0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:48.000 And that's what it's all about, is just hearing people 0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:52.720 and listening and hearing from you. If you have any comments, 0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.680 you can leave them below. Thank you for listening, and 0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.640 I'll talk to you next time because we have a 0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:01.400 lot more to talk about. Thanks for listening. 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