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Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for wanting my wife to

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Speaker 1: cut off her friendship with my ex because she tried

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Speaker 1: to get my wife to cheat on me? This comes

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Speaker 1: from throwaway ex fiance six' three two four and they,

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Speaker 1: SAY i think my ex, Fiance jess thirty one female

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Speaker 1: might have tried to get my Wife olivia thirty female

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Speaker 1: drunk and cheat on. Me, oh ex, fiance this your

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Speaker 1: ex fiance is hanging out with your current wife wants that?

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Speaker 2: Revenge whoa that, sweet, deep, dark petty?

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Speaker 1: Revenge my wife Thinks i'm overreacting and overthinking the. Situation

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Speaker 1: can someone tell me IF i would be the a

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Speaker 1: hole to Ask olivia to stop being with friends With jess?

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Speaker 1: Immediately so for, Context jess AND i started dating the

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Speaker 1: sophomore year of our. College we met through mutual friends

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Speaker 1: and connected. Instantly she was charming and outgoing and we

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Speaker 1: made friends instantly everywhere she. WENT i was more shy and,

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Speaker 1: nerdy BUT i enjoyed going out to parties with. Her

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Speaker 1: we got engaged on our graduation, day as both our

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Speaker 1: families were. ATTENDING i got a job in a big

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Speaker 1: tech company right after, college And jess moved in with

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Speaker 1: me while looking for. Jobs that is when the relationship

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Speaker 1: started going. Downhill jess was an art major and had

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Speaker 1: trouble finding a stable. Job barke. Sorry she did a

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Speaker 1: bunch of freelance work and mostly work from. HOME i

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Speaker 1: was overwhelmed with. Work she always wanted to go out

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Speaker 1: to bars and, clubs AND i wanted to rest in

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Speaker 1: the evening after ten to twelve hours of. WORK i

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Speaker 1: was okay with her going out with friends, alone AND

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Speaker 1: i would sometimes tag along on the. Weekend it bothered

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Speaker 1: me that she was still in her party girl. Phase

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Speaker 1: she complained THAT i was becoming boring and should enjoy

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Speaker 1: our early twenties before we settled. DOWN i was also

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Speaker 1: not happy the friends she hung out, with as there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of drinking and drug. Use even WHEN

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Speaker 1: i was out with her, friends she would be extremely

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Speaker 1: flirty with guys in her friend's. Group her excuse was

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Speaker 1: always that she gets flirty when she was drunk or

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Speaker 1: she was just.

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Speaker 2: JOKING i just you, know it just. Happens you, KNOW

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Speaker 2: i CAN'T i can't stop. It whack, whack, whack whack.

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Speaker 1: STUPID i had enough and decided to call off the

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Speaker 1: engagement after two, years as we were just different. People

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Speaker 1: at that. Point the breakup was, messy and she kept

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Speaker 1: trying to get back with me for almost a. Year

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Speaker 1: there were some incidences Where jess may not have acted

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Speaker 1: in her best, judgment AND i blocked her from all

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Speaker 1: my social. MEDIA i did not want to deal with

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Speaker 1: the drama and wanted to move. ON i also got

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Speaker 1: a transfer to another town around that time and never

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Speaker 1: heard From jess. Again this is WHEN i started dating my, Wife.

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Speaker 1: Olivia my wife was the exact opposite Of. Jess she

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Speaker 1: was very soft spoken and a homebody like. Me she

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Speaker 1: KNEW i was engaged. Before we dated for three years

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Speaker 1: and happily were married for two years. Now, however one

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Speaker 1: of the sticking points was we always had My thursday.

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Speaker 1: Nights three of my closest college friends are now scattered

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Speaker 1: all across the, country and we generally play a video

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Speaker 1: game together On thursday evenings since our college. Days olivia

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Speaker 1: complained that she gets bored during that. Time, dude one

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Speaker 1: day out of the, Week come, on let the boy

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Speaker 1: have his boys. Night let the boy have his. Boys,

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Speaker 1: yeah let the boy have his. Boys about six months,

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Speaker 1: Ago olivia told me she got A facebook invite for

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Speaker 1: a group where they had painting and wine nights On.

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Speaker 1: Thursdays it was mostly eight to ten women who got

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Speaker 1: together at someone's house and spent the evening, painting drinking,

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Speaker 1: wine and. Gossiping according To, olivia it was just a

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Speaker 1: few housewives and, divorces and they welcomed. Her one of

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Speaker 1: the women's names Was, Jess BUT i did not think

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Speaker 1: much of it sit in that is would be crazy

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Speaker 1: If jess moved to the same random town That opie

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Speaker 1: moved to and.

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Speaker 3: Just happened to join a group of divorcees and, wives and.

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Speaker 1: Well she was. There she. Was jess was there Before

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Speaker 1: opie's wife would have been, there.

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Speaker 2: Because she knew she comes To she.

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Speaker 1: Had a premonition about what the wife would.

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Speaker 3: Want she studied her opposition and, said, oh she's going

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Speaker 3: to be so bored on Those thursday, nights and who

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Speaker 3: is she going to turn.

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Speaker 1: To it also could be that she just doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to participate WITH opi like Op he's, like, oh do

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Speaker 1: you want to play games with? Us and she's, like,

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Speaker 1: OH i don't want to pay. Games i'm looking for something.

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Speaker 2: Else, well it sounds like She's opie's not inviting.

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Speaker 1: Her, yeah maybe, not maybe the, boys maybe. Not MAYBE

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Speaker 1: i want.

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Speaker 4: To know who she got this invite?

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Speaker 1: From? Mmmm, yeah how did?

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Speaker 2: She?

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Speaker 1: Oh how did she find out about?

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Speaker 2: It marga, COMPREHENSION i see you in the.

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Speaker 1: Comments, well two weeks, Ago olivia told me it Was

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Speaker 1: jess's birthday and they wanted to do a ladies' night

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Speaker 1: at a. Club olivia hates loud, music But jess convinced

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Speaker 1: her to come for dinner and some. Drinks on that,

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Speaker 1: NIGHT i got a call From olivia at ten pm

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Speaker 1: asking me IF i could come pick her. UP i

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Speaker 1: could tell something was wrong AND i immediately left to

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Speaker 1: pick her. UP i went to the bar and went

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Speaker 1: in to pick Up. OLIVIA i was shocked WHEN i

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Speaker 1: realized that her, Friend jess was my ex Fiance, dun, dun.

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Speaker 1: Dun that's, crazy that's. Why that's why she also looked

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Speaker 1: surprised to see me. THERE i was, polite said hello to,

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Speaker 1: everyone But olivia wanted to get out of there as

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Speaker 1: soon as. Possible after we went to the, CAR i

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Speaker 1: Told olivia That jess was my ex, fiancee WHOM i

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Speaker 1: had not seen for almost seven. Years.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Wow olivia was shocked to hear, it and she did

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Speaker 1: not know about. It it was crazy SINCE i did

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Speaker 1: not even know she lived in the same city as.

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Speaker 1: Us but wouldn't you kind of, Like, okay how do

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Speaker 1: you not know all of your? Exes LIKE i feel

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Speaker 1: like If i'm dating someone for a few, YEARS i

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Speaker 1: know who all of their exes are and what they

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Speaker 1: look like. Like it comes up in, conversation.

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Speaker 4: Not what they look, like, yeah not what they look?

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Speaker 1: Like yeah really, yeah YEAH i.

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Speaker 4: DON'T i don't Think i'm even tell my girlfriend about my.

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Speaker 1: Exes you're not going to tell your girlfriend about her?

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Speaker 4: Exes, well probably already told her about, one But i'm,

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Speaker 4: like not really.

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Speaker 1: Gonna but how about like pictures from things you did

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Speaker 1: and like they're? Gone you deleted every picture from, Seriously.

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Speaker 4: YEAH i went to A Kanye west concert with her.

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Speaker 3: And you deleted the. Pictures, yeah, dude you should Have

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Speaker 3: you should have waited for ai. Photoshop, DUDE i didn't.

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Speaker 3: Know you should have Photoshopped kanye in THE i replaced,

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Speaker 3: her replacing my girlfriend With. Kanye that's. Good write that.

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Speaker 4: Down oh, yeah, DUDE i deleted all the.

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Speaker 1: Pictures, wait so do people not share information about their?

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Speaker 3: EXES i, like for, me it's just not like. Pictures

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Speaker 3: but Also i've Never i've also never been in a

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Speaker 3: long term relationship before the one i've been.

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Speaker 2: In, Now, hm that's.

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Speaker 5: Crazy, YEAH i mean like some people are comfortable with,

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Speaker 5: it some people. Aren't some people have some. EXES i

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Speaker 5: didn't talk about other, exes BUT i.

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Speaker 3: DON'T i think it's just the pictures BECAUSE i think

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Speaker 3: just in talking about like life and, CONVERSATIONS.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine it not coming up in five, years

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Speaker 1: like like one picture of YOUR x that is like, That, like,

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Speaker 1: YEAH i, understand like five. YEARS i can't imagine. That

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Speaker 1: that's crazy to.

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Speaker 5: Me.

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Speaker 1: YEAH i dated a girl for like a, month AND

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Speaker 1: i knew like three of her exes what they look.

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Speaker 4: Like how long did that? Last as a?

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Speaker 1: Question, sale, DAMN i ended things after two. Buds but,

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Speaker 1: BRO i all, Right, riley sit. Down i've had none

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Speaker 1: of your relationships have lasted longer than my longest. Relationship wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: wait wait?

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Speaker 5: Time when did You how long did your last longest

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Speaker 5: relationship last?

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Speaker 1: Lasted? Last? One like two and a half? Years.

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Speaker 4: OKAY i was in a relationship for three.

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Speaker 5: Years, okay just one, uh and THEN i was in

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Speaker 5: another one for two and then another one for two, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Okay i'm.

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Speaker 3: Like you're BASICALLY i feel like you actually have pretty

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Speaker 3: very similar. Relationship time all, right to wait two back

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Speaker 3: to back two year?

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Speaker 1: Relationships when did you?

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Speaker 5: START i started one in high school and it was

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Speaker 5: like in the freshman, year almost in the junior, year

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Speaker 5: and then in middle SCHOOL i was with a group

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Speaker 5: like a year and a.

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Speaker 6: Half, okay now getting into, treasure, okay twenty Three, okay

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Speaker 6: but but what if we've already talked about middle definitely

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Speaker 6: middle school.

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Speaker 1: RELATIONSHIP i, MEAN i don't know if that.

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Speaker 3: Counts if it goes if it's like if it's like

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Speaker 3: our boy that where it goes from school to like

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Speaker 3: a decade later and then you get, married that's a different.

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Speaker 2: Conversation, Yeah but like if you date.

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Speaker 3: For like from seventh, grade the beginning of seventh grade

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Speaker 3: to halfway through eighth, grade it's, LIKE i.

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Speaker 1: MEAN i was.

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Speaker 4: COMMITTED i didn't anyone else during that, time.

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Speaker 1: SO i had to work.

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Speaker 3: Out so you're telling me you didn't have a polyamous

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Speaker 4: Me that counts to. Me howd it work?

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Speaker 1: Out?

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Speaker 4: Uh didn't work?

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Speaker 2: Out?

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Speaker 5: Good she got like a new scarf AND i thought

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Speaker 5: she was wearing the SCARF i got, her but turned

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Speaker 5: out it wasn't and she shamed me in front of

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Speaker 5: the whole, school being, like this is a fancy, scarf

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Speaker 5: not the one you bought me from Wal. Mart it

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Speaker 5: was pretty. Rough and THEN i asked.

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Speaker 1: Her in high stated for a year and a, half,

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Speaker 1: Yeah and THEN i asked her middle school. Relationship, yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: See when you break up over us over a, scarf

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Speaker 3: that is a sign.

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Speaker 5: That the relationship was, well that's not why we broke,

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Speaker 5: and said. That and then in high SCHOOL i asked

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Speaker 5: her IF i was a good kisser and she told

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Speaker 5: me she couldn't.

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Speaker 4: Remember was it my best?

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Speaker 1: Moment all, Right i'm going back to this. Story after

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Speaker 1: we were in the, CAR i Told olivia That jess

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Speaker 1: was my ex, fiance WHOM i had not seen for

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Speaker 1: almost seven. Years olivia was shocked to hear, it and

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Speaker 1: she did not know about. It it was crazy SINCE

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Speaker 1: i did not even know she lived in the same

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Speaker 1: city as. Us olivia told Me jess was the one

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Speaker 1: who had started the painting. Group she had divorced her

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Speaker 1: husband two years, ago and, Oh jess was the one

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Speaker 1: who had started the painting. Group that's, crazy so maybe

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Speaker 1: she was FINDING.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know she had divorced her husband two years ago and

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Speaker 1: moved to our city for a fresh. Start the reason

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Speaker 1: why she called me was because she was getting uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: jess could be acting in, malice But olivia told me

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Speaker 1: we broke. Up jess is a kind person AND i

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Speaker 1: should not judge her based on a one night stand

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Speaker 1: when she was. Drunk she still wants to stay friends With,

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Speaker 5: THING i, OKAY i know That jess knows that they're

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Speaker 5: together Because olivia got The facebook, invite and there's no

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Speaker 3: Married, well so it's possible because it's like there's no

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Speaker 5: Like she got a random invite On. FACEBOOK i, mean

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Speaker 3: Life oh, OH i could see it the other way

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Speaker 4: There that makes her SENSE i could see you.

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Speaker 1: there but because she didn't realize That olivia would call.

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Speaker 1: Caught she got caught like she knew That olivia And

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Speaker 1: i think THAT'S i. THINK i Think jess is working

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Speaker 4: Sure i'm podcasts.

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Speaker 1: BACK i do not want to Separate olivia from her,

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Speaker 1: invited her to go to a wine and fashion night

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Speaker 1: i just wanted. TO i want to have a friend.

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Speaker 1: HOW i say. This it's the eyeball girl. Friend Ah.

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Speaker 4: FRIENDS i personally don't like the eyeball.

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Speaker 5: and they're both theater, girls and they both Have spotify's

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Speaker 5: Because Apple music doesn't have a theored theater soundtracks on.

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Speaker 5: There they have a lot in. Common they're both, quirky

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Speaker 1: And it's, fashion and it's like when you're podcasting late at,

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Speaker 5: Bored oh my, gosh can it be another Ex, no

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Speaker 1: One but you could add more of your exes.

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Speaker 5: Today, DUDE i would tell her what's up and be, like,

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Speaker 5: HEY i don't like this, person but since you goes her,

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Speaker 5: friends make it. Happen but if something like this were to,

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Speaker 4: It WOULD i would have to be fine with, it,

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Speaker 2: Weren't but you maybe warn and communicate.

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Speaker 1: And then all, Right now they go up girls', night girls,

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Speaker 5: Girl oh, Man i'd probably cut it, off say this

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Speaker 1: And she's, like, hey this is my only friend. Here, well,

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Speaker 5: Things oh, man maybe not ending, things but JUST i

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Speaker 5: would let her. Know, well if it had to be like, that, like,

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Speaker 5: that then that's. Okay i'd be, like, hey.

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Speaker 4: My new, FRIENDS i would pursue ending, this perhaps pursue.

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Speaker 4: But, dang that would be tough because like they would

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Speaker 1: Friends, Though, yeah did you should introduce? Them? No oh

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Speaker 1: do you? Know you? KNOW i have all?

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Speaker 2: GIRLFRIEND i really don't actually.

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Speaker 1: Think Of riley's ex's.

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Speaker 1: It relevant, Comments So Kat empty nine to eighty sixty

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Speaker 1: one says. Info Did olivia tell this group that she was?

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Speaker 1: Married because If jess knew she was married and trying

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Speaker 1: to get her to cheat on, you even if she

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Speaker 1: didn't know it specifically was, you then that is really.

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Speaker 1: Scummy she should not be hanging out with those friends

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Speaker 1: who encourage her to cheat on her. Spouse ropie, responds,

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Speaker 1: YES i know this because one of the ladies in

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Speaker 1: the painting group lives in our neighborhood and she knows

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Speaker 1: me As olivia's, Husband plus Her instagram And facebook has

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Speaker 1: all our pictures. TOGETHER i also felt the same About jess's.

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Speaker 1: had to call me to pick her, up and then

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Speaker 1: she who it says not the a, Hole but you

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Speaker 1: need to remain low key and Let olivia process this.

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Speaker 1: Information the paint and why nights are harmless and the

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Speaker 1: birthday bar night could be a one, off And olivia

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Speaker 1: may choose not to participate in. Whatever, again she also

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Speaker 1: knew how to handle the situation on her, own so

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Speaker 1: she's not a, vulnerable naive wife fresh off the turnip.

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Speaker 1: Truck trust your. Wife if she gets any mean girl

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Speaker 1: vibes Off, jess she'll know how to. Deal and THEN opi,

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Speaker 1: responds this is the Approach i'm taking for. NOW i

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Speaker 1: do not really have any reason not to Trust. Olivia

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Speaker 1: It's jess WHO i don't. Trust Oh, HOWEVER i do

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Speaker 1: not want to come out as an a hole and

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Speaker 1: insecure in asking her to stop Seeing jess, and as a,

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Speaker 1: consequence her friend, group BECAUSE i think that's the, fear

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Speaker 1: enjoy being with. Others plus the other women in her

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Speaker 1: group seem to be. Nice olivia told me it was

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Speaker 1: a lesson to learned for her and would not put

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Speaker 1: herself in situations anymore where she goes to bars. Alone

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Speaker 1: she Felt jess did not act inappropriately since she is

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Speaker 1: single and is allowed to flirt with. Guys olivia just

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Speaker 1: felt uncomfortable and removed herself from the. Situation, okay she

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Speaker 3: And AND i AND i really liked that comment where

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Speaker 3: they were, like, Hey olivia has kind of proved through.

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Speaker 3: This it's not a, test but she kind of passed the,

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Speaker 3: test so to. Speak and so it's, like, hey, ALSO

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Speaker 3: i think it'd be good FOR op to communicate this and, say,

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Speaker 3: hey you did everything, right you were. Awesome AND i

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Speaker 3: don't want to be insecure, controlling BUT i will just.

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Speaker 3: COMMUNICATE i am, LIKE i, DON'T i. DON'T i don't Trust,

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Speaker 3: jess not like don't stop seeing or. Anything just kind

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Speaker 3: of like a, hey fair, WARNING i don't trust, her

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Speaker 3: but you do.

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Speaker 2: You i'm here to your.

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Speaker 1: Wife seems like somebody could just send this to, like,

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Speaker 1: HEY i wrote, this ask these. STRANGERS i just want

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Speaker 2: Even better a thousand. PERCENT i love.

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Speaker 1: That but there is an update three months. Later three months,

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Speaker 1: later SO i posted about how my ex fiance tried

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Speaker 1: to get my wife to cheat on me three months.

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Speaker 1: Ago things were good, since but last week has been

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Speaker 1: crazy AND i wish my wife for not as naive

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Speaker 1: to Let, jess to Let jess back in our. LIVES

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Speaker 1: i really need help on WHAT i can. Do at this,

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Speaker 1: point we're about to get some.

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Speaker 2: Tea we've gone deeper in the rabbit.

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Speaker 1: Hole for, REFERENCE i broke up with my ex Fiance

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Speaker 1: jess seven years ago And i've been together with my

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Speaker 1: wife for five, years married for. Two after the night

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Speaker 1: Of jess's birthday where she tried to get my wife

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Speaker 1: drunk and flirt with, STRANGERS i had a long conversation

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Speaker 1: with my. WIFE i laid down WHY i was uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: with her hanging out With. Jess my wife agreed with

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Speaker 1: most of WHAT i, said but she feels that enough

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Speaker 1: time has passed now where we can let things. Go

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Speaker 1: she also talked To jess and told her that she

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Speaker 1: had no idea about me and it's just one happy.

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Speaker 1: Coincidence jess also insisted to my wife that she moved

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Speaker 1: on with her life after our, breakup found love and

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Speaker 1: unfortunately the marriage did not. Last she Told olivia that

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Speaker 1: maybe we all could go out for dinner together and

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Speaker 1: clear out the. Issues jess also insisted that she was

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Speaker 1: just having fun at the bar and apologized to my

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Speaker 1: wife if her drunk behavior made her. Uncomfortable, okay that's good.

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Speaker 1: Now my wife asked me IF i would be okay

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Speaker 1: with her, friendship as she has not found a social

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Speaker 1: group in town for a long time And jess seems

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Speaker 1: like a changed. Person she told me that she would

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Speaker 1: only meet these women during her art nights and not

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Speaker 1: go on girls' nights or. TRIPS i felt that as

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Speaker 1: long As olivia was, COMFORTABLE i should not have any

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Speaker 1: reason to be. Worried we also had dinner With jess

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Speaker 1: once And jess was very. Friendly she told me about

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Speaker 1: what happened in her marriage and how she is on

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Speaker 1: her healing journey right. Now she also apologized to me

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Speaker 1: for her behavior during our last few months. Together jess

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Speaker 1: artist and graphic. DESIGNER i also was, gracious as we

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Speaker 1: were just twenty three AND i harbor no ill. Feelings

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Speaker 1: once a month or, so AND i had to move

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Speaker 1: to my office for my game. Nights. Well last, week

435
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: after the art, Night jess and one lady hang back

436
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: and we were all drinking wine and. Chatting the other

437
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: lady was asking questions About jess AND. I jess told

438
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 1: her that it was old, history AND i went no

439
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 1: contact With jess for four. Years that was the reason

440
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 1: why she had no idea About. Olivia olivia looked at

441
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: me and, Asked, jess you mean seven years, ago. Right

442
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 1: jess said, no and that was when we broke. Up,

443
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: however we met every TIME i came back to my.

444
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: HOMETOWN i thought she was, drunk SO i corrected her

445
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 1: that it was seven years ago and she was misremembering.

446
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: Things jess said, maybe and we moved.

447
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:06,239
Speaker 3: On seems, LIKE i THINK i see what's going on.

448
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 3: Here What i'm Thinking i'm seeing is That jess is

449
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 3: almost Gaslighting.

450
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 2: Olivia and op into being, like, oh we were.

451
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 3: Still dating while you guys were getting, together or we

452
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 3: were still engaged, dating et, cetera while you guys are still.

453
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 2: Together it overlapped.

454
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: Mm the next, Day jess sent a bunch of photos

455
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: to my wife of me And jess hanging. Out they

456
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: were just innocent, photos like us having dinner at a music,

457
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: festival working out, together et. Cetera the weirdest part WAS

458
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: i had a few tattoos on my body THAT i

459
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: got AFTER i broke up With. JESS i also never

460
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: owned the clothes the person in the photo was wearing

461
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,479
Speaker 1: even the photos were time stamped to four years. Ago, okay,

462
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: wait really, quick do you Remember jess's? Job, oh graphic.

463
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 4: Design oh.

464
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: Some photoshop. Skills, bero this is. Crazy olivia freaked out

465
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: because we started dating in the summer of twenty. NINETEEN

466
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: i did make a trip home alone to my hometown

467
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: In christmas of twenty. Nineteen, HOWEVER i never Met. Jess

468
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: you started asking me WHY i did not tell her

469
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: about Meeting. JESS i tried to tell her that these

470
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: things never, happened but she does not believe.

471
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 3: Me.

472
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: Oh she also Called jess And jess told her that

473
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 1: we met BECAUSE i was back in. Town, however we

474
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: were just potonic at that point and it's not what

475
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: my wife is. THINKING i Confronted jess and she told

476
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: me THAT i am stupid to not Tell olivia about meeting,

477
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: her and also not telling her About. Olivia she says

478
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: THAT i told HER i am still. Single olivia is

479
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: very angry with. Me she is not believing a WORD

480
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: i am. SAYING i kept on telling her THAT i

481
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: have not seen her for seven. Years olivia says she

482
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: does not mind me meeting, her BUT i should have

483
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: told her as we were. TOGETHER i volunteered to show

484
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: her all my phone records during that, time but they

485
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: only go back to three years on my.

486
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: Carrier oh, no the cut off and just hacked into

487
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 3: the carrier to know exactly when to cut it.

488
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: Out, dude literally only three. Years all he needed was

489
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: the fourth.

490
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: YEAR i am confessed how those photos can exist WHEN

491
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: i never met. Her they are definitely photos from WHEN

492
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: i was With, olivia AS i look more muscular in

493
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: these pictures and also have tattoos THAT i did not

494
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: have back. THEN i even told her she can call

495
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: my friends and family and ask them about the, trip

496
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: but she says that she has all the photos of

497
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: my trip and my friends and family will cover for.

498
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 1: Me can someone please help me WHAT i can do

499
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: in this? CASE i need to Convince olivia that this

500
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: is all, false but she is just angry at me

501
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: and giving me the silent. TREATMENT i swear THAT i

502
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: did not Meet jess during that trip and am caught

503
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: in this mess without my. Fault and there are some relevant.

504
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: Comments So op SAYS i tried to convince my wife

505
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: it might be. Photoshopped my wife wants to believe, me

506
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: but after watching the photos and checking every possible. Thing

507
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: she does not trust me. Anymore. OH i also tried

508
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 1: to find any inconsistencies in the photos that might make

509
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: it seem that. Way, however everything looked just. Right even

510
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: the letters in my tattoos on my arm look correct

511
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 1: in one of the pictures From, jim WHERE i am

512
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: in workout. Clothes op was directed up the photos to

513
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: a site that tests for photoshop, artifacts and Then TANYA.

514
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: G scheller, says your ex's deceit is, unsettling but your

515
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: priority should be regaining your wife's. Trust open, up provide,

516
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: evidence and emphasize your. Honesty clear communication is the best

517
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: tool in this. SITUATION opi, Responds i'm trying to and

518
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: looking for any contradicting. Evidence my wife is open to

519
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: listening to, me but she also has pictures in front

520
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: of her that show. Otherwise IF i was in her,

521
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: shoes it would be hard not to believe. Them MARY.

522
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: E friendly, says, also the metadata from digital photos should

523
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: provide proof. Enough your ex is a graphic. Artist she

524
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: likely knows her way around photo editing. Software let's not

525
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: FORGET ai images and how convinceding it can. BE i

526
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: checked for METADATA i am also in tech and checked

527
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: EVERYTHING i. Could everything including pixels around my face look.

528
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: CORRECT i understand my wife and those photos look. Real,

529
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: ALSO i do not get is she is accusing me

530
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: of just platonically hanging out with her and nothing. More

531
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: he told my wife that it was nothing and then

532
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: we just hang out a few times WHEN i met.

533
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: HER i do not know what her endgame. Is, also

534
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: in no circumstances AM i ready to Lose. Olivia she

535
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: is my better half AND i love. HER i wish

536
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: she trusted me a bit more and not believe THAT

537
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: i hung out With jess four years ago when we.

538
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: Met it is all just giving me a weird.

539
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 3: VIBE i know exactly what's going on. Here WHAT i

540
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 3: know fully what's going. On so if you go out

541
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: and you're, like he was, Cheating da da da, da

542
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: that is very. Obvious it's very. Plain maybe it's you,

543
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: know easier to disprove it. Away she's playing FOUR d

544
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: mental warfare chess here where she's, Like i'm not just

545
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 3: gonna come out and say, It i'm gonna torture you

546
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 3: with its seeming so innocent on the, surface BUT i.

547
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: Because really all that matters is a roading the. Trust, yeah.

548
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: Exactly so she's able to erode the trust enough of, like, hey.

549
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: Why didn't you tell your partner that you were still seeing?

550
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: Me you, know while, yeah you, know she doesn't even

551
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: have to say that anything went. Wrong the trust will

552
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: still be, eroded and it'll be so infuriating FOR.

553
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: OP i, mean the conspiracy theory is That op he

554
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: did meet up With jess and he's trying to write

555
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: this post to convince his wife that he's, honest and.

556
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: He's, like look by look at all these people do.

557
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: Me i'm, Like i'm. CONFUSED i, mean you can make

558
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: photos that are really really. Convincing. Yeah, so and if

559
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: she's if it's literally her, job LIKE i can imagine

560
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: that it might be indistinguishable from.

561
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: Reality that's.

562
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: True that's a good, Point, like which is also so

563
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: crazy because it's like she would have to spend so

564
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: much time on those photos to get like shading of

565
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: the tattoo, right you, know moving it from like the

566
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: angle with the, Tattoo LIKE i don't.

567
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: KNOW i, mean what she could have done is she

568
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: could have just had couldn't she just have had photos

569
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: of them working? Out and, oh but he says he

570
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: didn't even own those. Clothes but you.

571
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 4: Could have thrown them, away you could have got rid of.

572
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: Them he didn't own those, clothes like like he didn't

573
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: like but HE'S i don't think he's ever owned those.

574
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: Clothes yeah he's, yeah he's. Claiming, yeah he's, claiming.

575
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: You never owned those. Clothes, Yeah i'm, like, Yeah trumpas,

576
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: Says but the metadata, though but she could have taken

577
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: a photo and you can edit. Metadata, yeah you can

578
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: just change.

579
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 5: Metadata, well, okay, OKAY i know this is coming FROM.

580
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 5: Opi this is a hot take conspiracy. Theory Is opie telling?

581
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 5: Truth is he trying to write all.

582
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 4: This up like he?

583
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: DID i want to believe OP i want to as.

584
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: WELL I, YEAH i THINK i believe Op but we

585
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: have had that conspiracy.

586
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: BEFORE i don't know if it's ever been.

587
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: True what the person is writing the story just to, like,

588
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: well look at all these people Defending maybe.

589
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: We've read we've, read we read that a couple of. Times,

590
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: yeah you can't believe anything you see on the. Internet that's, true,

591
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: folks even, us we could BE, ai.

592
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 4: That's, right could not even live. Together you're totally, Right.

593
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: Riley green screens around the world.

594
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah me and me And sam could be in two

595
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: completely different hemispheres right, now and.

596
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: Beefing we used to do. That, yeah, yep, yep they

597
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: got over that's.

598
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: Right, yeah we used to wet.

599
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: And now look it's not he has a hand.

600
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: Doctor do you remember all the comments where it's, like

601
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: oh my, god you can't convince us that you're not.

602
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: Beefing we know that you hate each. Other, now that's

603
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: WHAT i was. Referencing i'm go.

604
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: Crazy the one that sent me was the one where

605
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 3: it's like they're just in two different. Rooms they just

606
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: like mimicked them to look like it was in the same.

607
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: ROOM i was, like, what, dude it would be so

608
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: much harder to do, that so much.

609
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 4: Harder probably doing the green screen.

610
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: DAYS i, mean this could be a green, screen this

611
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: could be a green, screen but, this this is a

612
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: realistic looking green.

613
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: Screen, yeah no, green.

614
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: But, yeah that's all the. Story, wow that's, it.

615
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: Dude that that's.

616
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: INSANE i, MEAN i BELIEVE i Believe jess did plant,

617
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: that which.

618
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: IS i think. Janished but is it is she trying

619
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: to get revenge for a failed relationship or is she

620
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: trying to get them? Back is she trying to, LIKE.

621
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 3: I i think it's just petty revenge because because to,

622
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: me the pettiness is is, that, YEAH i don't know

623
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: something something about saying it was they didn't do.

624
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: Anything that's the real.

625
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: Question but you know, ELSE i have a question about

626
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: what this next.

627
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: Story let's get into.

628
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 3: It