Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 1: and stay a while. Reggie Miller will join us to
Speaker 1: wrap up the NBA season. Chris Mannix, former Celtics ball boy,
Speaker 1: will join us, of course, a senior basketball writer for
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Speaker 1: the above. Operator Tyler standing by. Tyler also doing the
Speaker 1: Meat Friday duties. In case you're wondering smoking tie curry
Speaker 1: chicken curry. Yes, he said, Hey, can I do a
Speaker 1: Steph curry dish? And I go Yeah. Also sweet potato
Speaker 1: Tatum Tots, so he wants to have wants some sweet
Speaker 1: potato Jason Tatum Tots, Draymond Greenbeans, no Blue Blue, But
Speaker 1: we're doing meat Friday today. Who has it better than
Speaker 1: we do? No Golden State does. They won the championship
Speaker 1: last night. Warriors have had their ups and downs over
Speaker 1: the last three years. You go back to twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: They were so bad they had the second overall pick
Speaker 1: in the draft. They took James Wiseman, who was injured
Speaker 1: didn't even play for the team in the playoffs. The
Speaker 1: scouting department is top notch. That's what I'll give them
Speaker 1: credit for is finding these players, developing these players, keeping
Speaker 1: these players because you have ownership the roster. Keep in mind,
Speaker 1: the salary cap is one hundred twenty million dollars. The
Speaker 1: Warriors roster this year due to repeat luxury tax offenses,
Speaker 1: three hundred forty six million dollars. That's a massive advantage.
Speaker 1: By comparison, the Clippers had the second highest payroll, around
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million dollars. The Warriors an elite roster,
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, coach, hall of fame, front office Suspending
Speaker 1: isn't the only reason the team is taking home the trophy,
Speaker 1: but it's a perfect blend. You got star power, you
Speaker 1: got depth, and the Warriors set to contend for years
Speaker 1: to come. In fact, I was looking at the Draft
Speaker 1: Kings odds for next year. There are three co favorites
Speaker 1: or is it three try favorites? You can't have co
Speaker 1: favorites if it's three, can you the Clippers, Warriors and Celtics. No,
Speaker 1: there's four teams in here. Clippers, Warriors, Celtics Nets plus
Speaker 1: six hundred, followed by the Bucks and the Phoenix Suns.
Speaker 1: That's next year. The NBA Finals odds according to the
Speaker 1: Draft Kings eight seven seven three d P Show email
Speaker 1: address DP at dan Patrick dot com. Oh, Fritzie had
Speaker 1: reason to hate Steph Curry even more last night. Had
Speaker 1: some shimmies, chewing on the mouthpiece, and he's the MVP.
Speaker 1: And I got past those first two things you mentioned
Speaker 1: because he added another two things to his repertoire that
Speaker 1: bothered me even more than the mouthpiece and the shimmying.
Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't like to sleep and killing the
Speaker 1: Celtics sleeps and pointing to his finger like another rings
Speaker 1: come into my hand. Come on you better than that?
Speaker 1: Him pointing to his ring fingers. Was this lethal? Lethal?
Speaker 1: That's Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald did it in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Absolute le I love the sleep. It was so subtle
Speaker 1: night night. Yeah, yeah, put him to bed and it
Speaker 1: happened five minutes. It was five minutes into the game
Speaker 1: and they were reading them a bedtime story and I'm like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: this isn't good. Stat of the Day brought to you
Speaker 1: by Panini America, the official trading cards of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show. Sometimes you think, Okay, that team's at home,
Speaker 1: you gotta win. They're gonna come out, They're gonna be
Speaker 1: so aggressive, and then all of a sudden, it's like, wait,
Speaker 1: what happened up twelve two? And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the first quarter, if
Speaker 1: you're a Celtic fan, you went, we're in trouble. We
Speaker 1: are in trouble. Here is Steve Kerr talking about Steph
Speaker 1: Curry finally winning the finals MVP. Honestly, that the whole
Speaker 1: finals MVP thing. It's like, I mean, are we really
Speaker 1: you know, I guess his career has been so impeccable
Speaker 1: that that's the only thing we could actually find. So
Speaker 1: it's great to check that box for him, But it's
Speaker 1: it's been really hard for me to think that that's
Speaker 1: actually been held against him. Yeah, I'm surprised, but it is.
Speaker 1: And you know, we're very in the moment, and it's
Speaker 1: we don't look back and go how many finals MVPs
Speaker 1: did certain players win or not win? But this is
Speaker 1: the best story. What you have to understand, Steve Kerr
Speaker 1: should understand he was in the media. What can we
Speaker 1: talk about every single day Steph Curry's legacy. He's never
Speaker 1: won a finals MVP. He can't be a top ten player.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't have a Finals MVP, that's what he
Speaker 1: has to understand. What else do you want? Is Jason
Speaker 1: Tatum a superstar? Okay? Is Draymond being overrated? By the way.
Speaker 1: When Draymond decided to just play basketball, played really well.
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all I ask you. Go twelve, twelve
Speaker 1: and eight. That's it. That's all you have to do.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be stupid out there, be silly,
Speaker 1: be a character. Just play that got to you to
Speaker 1: this point, and we'll get you to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Because you played well, you win rings. That shuts people up.
Speaker 1: First time in NBA Finals history, all the games were
Speaker 1: decided by at least ten points, and the Warriors, joining
Speaker 1: the twenty fourteen Spurs the nineteen sixty Celtics as the
Speaker 1: only team since nineteen fifty seven to win four NBA
Speaker 1: Finals by ten points or more. Stat of your day,
Speaker 1: stat of the day, stat of the day, stat of
Speaker 1: the day. Here comes that? What stat of the day?
Speaker 1: Seaton's going to make some pies? He lost the bed.
Speaker 1: It was Steph Curry would have at least ten made
Speaker 1: three pointers. Oh boy, you were a disappointed little guy
Speaker 1: in that first half, It's like, he's not shooting three?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Shoot the ball? I thought Steph
Speaker 1: would have had six by a halftime. Shoot it. What
Speaker 1: are you doing? Shoot the ball? You're Steph Curry. I
Speaker 1: don't think he realized what was at stake clearly, but
Speaker 1: Seton has four pies coming. And then the Warriors got
Speaker 1: up so big that I was like, Oh crap, they're
Speaker 1: gonna sub amount. He's not even gonna play the end
Speaker 1: of the game. Yes, this is terrible. Now I'm not
Speaker 1: giving you all the pies at once. You only get
Speaker 1: one today. You don't know when you're getting the other ones.
Speaker 1: Oh you're going back to the surprise thing. Ah damn.
Speaker 1: I know. I love that because it because Seton Seaton
Speaker 1: had to have eyes in the back of his head
Speaker 1: because he kept thinking, am I right around the corner
Speaker 1: And then right at the minute I would just let
Speaker 1: it go out of my mind paying it's smashed me
Speaker 1: right in the face. That was funny. Here is Steph
Speaker 1: Curry talking about the experts. When we started this season.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of conversations about who we were
Speaker 1: as a team and what we were capable of, And
Speaker 1: clearly remember some experts and talking heads putting up the
Speaker 1: big zero of how many championships we would have going
Speaker 1: forward because everything that we went through. So we hear
Speaker 1: all that and you carry it all and try to
Speaker 1: maintain your purpose, not let it distract you, but you
Speaker 1: carry that weight and to get here. It all comes out,
Speaker 1: so it's it's special. Steph, Steph. This expert said you
Speaker 1: guys were winning it this year. Okay, at least give
Speaker 1: me a shout out, just say, hey, I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's one guy said that we were gonna win it
Speaker 1: all and that's that's he's a shooter as well as
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick. That would have been nice. Yeah. See, you
Speaker 1: can't be the Warriors and be it Nobody thought we'd
Speaker 1: be here. I know you can't do that, can't. You
Speaker 1: can't be a dynasty and also have nobody believing. But
Speaker 1: do you know what the odds were for the Warriors
Speaker 1: at this time last year to win it all? Fourth favorite?
Speaker 1: Come on, he's out there. Nobody thought he'd be here.
Speaker 1: I mean, wow, this isn't Leicester City winning the Premier League. Alright?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, alright. Reference By the way, merchandise, we have
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Speaker 1: so exhausted from taking my victory laps with the Golden
Speaker 1: State Warriors. I'm tired today. Whence the parade, Paulie, We're
Speaker 1: gonna get you all the day? Fly out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I picked them to wind it all. It's exhausting
Speaker 1: being it is it is. I sent a text to
Speaker 1: Nick Wright. I go, I'm so exhausted today taking a
Speaker 1: victory lap and he goes, I can't believe I changed
Speaker 1: my pick because he changed from the Golden State Warriors
Speaker 1: through the Celtics. All right, poll question today, what do
Speaker 1: we have seton? Well, this one's a little bit of
Speaker 1: a can of worms, but I need your help populating it.
Speaker 1: If Steph Curry is a top ten all time player.
Speaker 1: Who are you taking out here? We go? Yep, that
Speaker 1: time of day legacy, legacy. Let me save that one
Speaker 1: because are we in voting Bill Russell and Will Chamberlain
Speaker 1: in this conversation? Do we start with the the advent
Speaker 1: of the three point shot? Like? Where is there a
Speaker 1: line of demarcation with that line of demarcation being a
Speaker 1: three point shot? Do we do we start with the
Speaker 1: modern NBA? Or do we include Will? Will does Babe
Speaker 1: Ruth like those numbers will never be touched? Freakish um,
Speaker 1: Bill Russell winning eleven titles will never be touched. Yeah, pull,
Speaker 1: I got an idea. We'll do this next hour. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna need some time. I will read the consensus
Speaker 1: top fifteen players in NBA history, and you guys, will
Speaker 1: y'all stop when you want to put Stephan Uri crazy.
Speaker 1: So I'll start reading and you'll stop, like the no
Speaker 1: wammy's whatever that does? Stop? Oh God, you love lists.
Speaker 1: I hate List. In fact, I don't even like Luke List.
Speaker 1: He's a golfer on the PGA tour. Yes, Marv, we're
Speaker 1: gonna need younger people because look, if you're maybe twenty
Speaker 1: and younger. They're gonna say, Paul is gonna start reading.
Speaker 1: You can say Michael Jordan, Steph Curry. You think it'll
Speaker 1: be down quick, generational, but it's gonna be hard if
Speaker 1: somebody says magic bird. You know, the list goes on.
Speaker 1: Kobe Duncan. Yeah, but this is where you know, you
Speaker 1: tend to diminish somebody's resume because you have to to
Speaker 1: put somebody in above them, and we're just the guys
Speaker 1: to do it. That's one of my favorite things, diminishing resume. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite bands. But I love them Ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen, diminishing resumes. Tim Robbins, wasn't that the Talking
Speaker 1: Head Store? All Right? What other pole question you got?
Speaker 1: You know what, this isn't really a poll question, but
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr is sneaking up on unarguably one of like
Speaker 1: the best careers NBA wise. Ever. If you have five
Speaker 1: rings as a player for as a coach, I know
Speaker 1: that there's other people who have more, but that's getting
Speaker 1: up there into some pretty crazy territory, isn't it. Well,
Speaker 1: getting the rings as a player is not the same
Speaker 1: as Robert or getting rings as a player Steve hit
Speaker 1: one great shot, one big shot. But okay, you were
Speaker 1: on the teams that you did that did win championships.
Speaker 1: That's a little different than Robert or or Oh, so
Speaker 1: that almost feels two then that, like getting all of
Speaker 1: these rings when you have that team that you have
Speaker 1: is also a little different. Yeah. Well, I didn't mean
Speaker 1: to diminish his resume. I was trying to prop it up,
Speaker 1: and man, we tour that down. Yeah quickly, that was
Speaker 1: easy creepers. But as far as a coach, then you
Speaker 1: might have people saying, well, but you got Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: for two of those titles. I thought he did a
Speaker 1: great job. I thought Kurd did a wonderful job. I
Speaker 1: know it's hard to say somebody out coached somebody. I
Speaker 1: think there. I think that Steve Kerr out experienced Udoka.
Speaker 1: I think I think he did just because he sort
Speaker 1: of knew what to do and when to do it.
Speaker 1: And I thought he did a really good job. Now,
Speaker 1: I did criticize him that he kept Steph Curry on
Speaker 1: the bench in a loss when Curry was going off,
Speaker 1: But you know, you go back. There were a couple
Speaker 1: of moments where if Boston does the right thing. Boston
Speaker 1: wins and just a couple of you know, a fewer turnovers.
Speaker 1: But you just saw in maturity. I saw Boston. I
Speaker 1: saw talent, but I saw him maturity and that as
Speaker 1: they move forward, you could say, well they're young, Well
Speaker 1: they'll get back here. It doesn't work that way. They don't.
Speaker 1: You know, the basketball gods don't go. You know, he
Speaker 1: got there to the finals, and you know it's a
Speaker 1: nice little run. You guys had great turnaround January one,
Speaker 1: and we'll get you back there. Really, Nets are gonna
Speaker 1: be good. Bucks are going to be good. You know,
Speaker 1: Miami Heat, if they pick up somebody, they're gonna be good.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be teams in the East they're gonna make
Speaker 1: it tougher for them to get back. And I said
Speaker 1: all along about Jason Tatum, he's a wonderful player. I
Speaker 1: think the timing of him being first team All NBA,
Speaker 1: now there was added expectations. If he's third team All NBA,
Speaker 1: it feels like it's different. Then it's like, man, that
Speaker 1: guy's moving up. Now, No, you're there, let's go. That's
Speaker 1: what great players do. He wasn't ready for the moment.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to have an educated eye, sit down
Speaker 1: with him and say these are the things that you
Speaker 1: did and didn't do. This is what you do in
Speaker 1: that situation. You know you want to you want to
Speaker 1: channel Kobe and you want to give tribute to Kobe,
Speaker 1: then you gotta go out there and play like Kobe.
Speaker 1: Jaylen Brown played better. Jaylen Brown felt like new what
Speaker 1: he was supposed to do. Jaylen Brown felt like his
Speaker 1: reputation certainly got a big boost with the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1: Yes and Jason Tatum, he couldn't even get an open
Speaker 1: shot on like the switches they were trying to force
Speaker 1: on the defense, he still couldn't get around the mismatch
Speaker 1: that they created. We'll take a break, we'll get to
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Speaker 1: of times during the NBA finals that we tend to
Speaker 1: focus on the starting five, and rightfully so that's where
Speaker 1: your star power is. Sometimes these championships are won by
Speaker 1: the bench. Golden State outscored Boston's bench thirty one ten.
Speaker 1: Game five outscored Boston's bench last night twenty one five.
Speaker 1: It felt like just about every game that when Golden
Speaker 1: State was going to do some real damage, it came
Speaker 1: from their bench. And you had a real big disparity
Speaker 1: between those tools, those two and you know, you just
Speaker 1: had players who came off the bench. Jordan Poole knew
Speaker 1: what he was supposed to do when he came off
Speaker 1: the bench. You had role players who filled that title
Speaker 1: quite admirably here. And as much as we give credit
Speaker 1: to the starters, you still have to have that second
Speaker 1: wave that comes in here. And you got a young
Speaker 1: nucleus here, I mean, you do have older players and
Speaker 1: you can make that transition a little smoother. This is
Speaker 1: what the Celtics thought they had when you had Bird,
Speaker 1: McHale and Parish, when they drafted Lenny Bias, they had
Speaker 1: Reggie Lewis Well, they tragically lost two of those, both
Speaker 1: those players Bird got hurt. They were hoping that they
Speaker 1: had younger players at players who are going to be
Speaker 1: able to come in and make that transition. I don't
Speaker 1: know how long Steph Curry can play at this level.
Speaker 1: Is he going to be a role player towards the
Speaker 1: end of his career? Is he going to be what
Speaker 1: Ray Allen was at the end of his career? Does
Speaker 1: Steph continue to play? Does he retire? But when you
Speaker 1: think about what he does to create separation, he has
Speaker 1: to have quickness. His ball handling is underrated. The ability
Speaker 1: to shoot will always be there. What's Clay going to
Speaker 1: be like next year? Will he be better next year?
Speaker 1: Is James Wiseman going to contribute? Draymond Greene with what
Speaker 1: he does and how he does it, can probably play
Speaker 1: another three or four more years, it feels like, but
Speaker 1: you have an ownership that spends money and you have
Speaker 1: a great scouting department. Does Steve Kerr stay as the
Speaker 1: head coach? How much longer does he want to do it?
Speaker 1: Does he stay as a partnership with Steph Curry and
Speaker 1: Clay Thompson? Yeah? Set how different switching teams real quick?
Speaker 1: How different do you think the Celtics look next year?
Speaker 1: I don't know if they look that different. Because I
Speaker 1: wouldn't overreact as much as I would just reassess, like,
Speaker 1: this is successful. This is what we did do and
Speaker 1: didn't do. You got a first year head coach. This
Speaker 1: is it's hard when you lose like this, when you
Speaker 1: go you know, we're so bummed out. But if I
Speaker 1: said at the beginning of the year, if I told
Speaker 1: you in January, if you're a Celtics fan, you're gonna
Speaker 1: go to the Finals, You're gonna lose in six games.
Speaker 1: It's like the Bengals. If I said to Joe Burrow, Hey,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to the super Bowl. You're gonna lose
Speaker 1: in dramatic fashion. You're gonna sign up for that. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And I think Boston had a successful year. It's not
Speaker 1: going to feel that way for a while, but they did. Yeah, Mard.
Speaker 1: The only difference I would say is maybe the fan
Speaker 1: base the Bengals, I'm sure they're happy to get to anything, yep.
Speaker 1: But if you're the Celtics thing, you're there like, let's
Speaker 1: let's win it. So I'm not sure, but I mean
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I agree, but they haven't been
Speaker 1: there in a long time. Like the last time they
Speaker 1: won was zoh eight. Okay, you do have that expectation
Speaker 1: in Boston that when we play for championships, we win championships,
Speaker 1: no matter what this sport is. This is a young
Speaker 1: team going against a veteran team, and it showed there
Speaker 1: was a real big disparity between those two when you
Speaker 1: needed to do something. I thought what Golden State did
Speaker 1: in answering hitting threes was remarkable because you felt like
Speaker 1: Boston they did something. Golden State comes back. It's crushing
Speaker 1: you missed a three. Golden State comes back. And I
Speaker 1: thought Clay Thompson had some deadly threes, like those threes
Speaker 1: that feel like they they're worth more than three points. Yeah,
Speaker 1: seton Yeah, keeping with that sort of Bengals analogy, right
Speaker 1: where you go, you're going to go to the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl that lose and you would take that, which is
Speaker 1: absolutely true. And then the first thing they did was
Speaker 1: signed three offensive linemen to beef up, right. So it
Speaker 1: feels like the Celtics there needs to be more there.
Speaker 1: And I don't know who the odd man ow it is,
Speaker 1: if it's Marcus Smart or like Jalen Brown or something,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but there needs to be more pieces there. Well,
Speaker 1: Marcus Smart makes me nervous because I don't look at
Speaker 1: him as let me put the ball in his hands
Speaker 1: and he'll make the right decision, because it feels like
Speaker 1: it's Jason Tatum as the point forward here or Jalen Brown.
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like Marcus Smart. Al Horford is more
Speaker 1: of a point forward as well. And I think that
Speaker 1: that's concerning. Is Marcus Smart as your point guard? But
Speaker 1: I don't look at him that way. Yes, And it
Speaker 1: seemed pretty clear towards I don't know, somewhere in the
Speaker 1: second quarter, maybe that the Marcus Smart flopping thing wasn't
Speaker 1: working anymore and you got you gotta stop doing that.
Speaker 1: Then if you're not getting the calls, you've gotta stop.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if he can. It felt like
Speaker 1: the Celtics were hunting for fouls. Jason Tatum was hunting
Speaker 1: for foul. Well, you might get those as you have
Speaker 1: a little more status in the NBA. You're not going
Speaker 1: to get that now, not at that age, not against
Speaker 1: Golden State, And it felt like he was trying to
Speaker 1: do that. It just felt like he made it tougher
Speaker 1: on himself. He had a wide open three, didn't take
Speaker 1: the three, like he started to lose confidence right in
Speaker 1: front of you. Yes, and that I said it after
Speaker 1: a couple of games in this series. But the Warrior's
Speaker 1: ability to strip the ball and never make any contact
Speaker 1: with the Celtics is unbelievable because there might have been
Speaker 1: what twenty three turnovers just something. I bet fifteen of
Speaker 1: them were not bad passes. They were somehow stripped and
Speaker 1: all ball every single time. Amazing. Well, they have Draymond Green,
Speaker 1: one of the great defensive players the whole time. Remarkable. Yes,
Speaker 1: get some phone calls in here RJ and Colorado RJ.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the program. Good morning, DP, Happy Steph Day
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, I've got a question I'd like you
Speaker 1: to ask all Reggie Miller, and also I want to
Speaker 1: get your guys opinion on it. I've got a little
Speaker 1: bit of a bet with some buddies that Steph Curry
Speaker 1: finishes with at least six I don't know if he
Speaker 1: gets more, but like probably in the face kind of
Speaker 1: a bet. I'd be a win because it means you'd
Speaker 1: still work until Steph retires. And I like to have
Speaker 1: you on the radio. But what do you guys think
Speaker 1: about the chances of Steph getting to six, what has
Speaker 1: to happen? Well, I think he has to win two
Speaker 1: more titles and then he gets to six. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like four and then two and then that six trying
Speaker 1: to stay healthy. And you know, there aren't many guys
Speaker 1: his size who lead a team. Think about I think
Speaker 1: you know how many guys under the age of six
Speaker 1: four or size wise who led their team to titles.
Speaker 1: Here are the NBA finals MVPs six four or shorter,
Speaker 1: and Steph is six two and he might be barely
Speaker 1: six two having stood next to him. Jerry West, Joe
Speaker 1: Joe White, Dennis Johnson, Joe Dumars, Isaiah Thomas, Chauncey Billips,
Speaker 1: Duwayne Wade, Tony Parker. Tony Parker is the last one,
Speaker 1: and that was two thousand and seven. It doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: And Tony Parker wasn't the best player on his own team.
Speaker 1: Billips wasn't the best player on his own team. Joe
Speaker 1: Dumars was, and Dennis Johnson wasn't. Joe Joe White was not,
Speaker 1: Jerry West was. He won that in a losing effort
Speaker 1: against the Celtics in nineteen sixty nine. It's hard to
Speaker 1: do that. Your best player is six two. Everybody now
Speaker 1: they're stretched forwards. You know, I can go inside now
Speaker 1: and I'm six to nine. If you go back and
Speaker 1: I don't, I'm not sure. PAULI went back and looked
Speaker 1: for for me. I said, can you find an NBA
Speaker 1: Finals where there wasn't a player in the opening lineup
Speaker 1: who was taller than six nine right when they announced
Speaker 1: the starting lineups. There's no one six ten or taller.
Speaker 1: You have to go back to nineteen seventy six. That
Speaker 1: was Celtics and the Phoenix Suns. Nobody listed at six
Speaker 1: ten or above in this series except for guys in
Speaker 1: garbage time. That's I mean, that's that's the new NBA.
Speaker 1: No more centers. I mean, you may have somebody listed
Speaker 1: as a center, but your pivotal player, your best player
Speaker 1: is six two. That doesn't happen. And I don't know
Speaker 1: how long that can continue because that's a lot of
Speaker 1: mileage on Staff because he runs a lot and he's
Speaker 1: got to have he's got to create separation with his
Speaker 1: ball handling. But we get so caught up with Okay,
Speaker 1: what's the next thing for Staff? How about we just
Speaker 1: celebrate this, enjoy this. This is remarkable what he did
Speaker 1: and that he somehow had to answer somebody's questions. You
Speaker 1: gotta be a finals MVP, you don't have to be.
Speaker 1: He should have been instead of Andrea Igudalla. In fact,
Speaker 1: Lebron should have been over Andrea Igudala. But because he
Speaker 1: didn't have one, all of a sudden, it's like, there's
Speaker 1: our story now, it's today. Today's day is all about legacy. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: but he barely beat out Andrew Wiggins for finally. Wow. Wow,
Speaker 1: isn't really that great? Okay? All right, all right, uh
Speaker 1: Gillette in North Carolina, it's back, Higillette, Good morning, Dan,
Speaker 1: Good morning, gentlemen. I have a rebuttal to your comment
Speaker 1: about luc List. Let's call it a comment. But first
Speaker 1: I would like to tell you how much you have
Speaker 1: meant to me during my rotator cup surgery and afterwards
Speaker 1: for a year and a half. You you. I was
Speaker 1: like a terrified little boy before I went into this.
Speaker 1: I'm sixty nine, never been cut on in my life,
Speaker 1: and he gave me a lot of courage describing your surgeries,
Speaker 1: getting through them physical therapy. I thank you very much, sir. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Luke List was my son's roommate in high school for
Speaker 1: four years. He is a lovely young man. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm glad I helped you through rehab. I was joking
Speaker 1: about luc List. I don't like Lists. I don't like Okay,
Speaker 1: Luke List could be a great guy. I'm sure he is.
Speaker 1: I was just I was just not everybody gets my
Speaker 1: sense of humor, all right, as my wife reminds me,
Speaker 1: So I please tell Luke List I and the entire
Speaker 1: Luke List family that I have nothing against them. Did
Speaker 1: you get that guy bagging on us? I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: was just joking. I hate List, not the List family,
Speaker 1: as it could have been better. Yes, do you think
Speaker 1: was gonna say Luke List is the best a man
Speaker 1: can get? Oh? Okay, that was from the Fritzie. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I couldn't even don't blame Fritzie. That a man's name.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Clay. I thought he was joking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got to talk about Luke List at a moment.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, and do you think that he like
Speaker 1: said something else to get around Tyler so that then
Speaker 1: he could be by the way, I need to address
Speaker 1: this Luke listening or did he say the Tyler thing?
Speaker 1: Gillette said to Tyler, I got to defend Luke List
Speaker 1: and Tyler, it's a Friday. He's focused on making some
Speaker 1: curry chicken. He doesn't care. He's like, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1: It's a good point. I thought I've always thought Luke
Speaker 1: was a nice guy. It's a good point. I was
Speaker 1: upset when Dan said that about Luke lis too. I
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, what what did he ever do? Yeah? Point?
Speaker 1: You know Luke List and his caddy is calling him
Speaker 1: right now. Do you hear you're being ripped on the
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick? Really? Yeah? I just want to say I
Speaker 1: don't know Luke List. I'm sure he's a wonderful person.
Speaker 1: If Luke Lisz played on the Warriors, he would hold
Speaker 1: on to this for the next four months and then
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, that's right. Remember Patrick said I'd never win.
Speaker 1: Man did the Warriors let it out after the game.
Speaker 1: It's like Clay Thompson's upset with something. Jaren Jackson Junior
Speaker 1: the Third said Memphis Grizzly, like, damn, he was legit upset,
Speaker 1: like he was laughing about it at first, but then
Speaker 1: after he's like, yeah, hold that, and you're like, whoa got? Really?
Speaker 1: Maddy had to take a deep breath. Here's Clay Thompson.
Speaker 1: So you just win a title and you're talking about
Speaker 1: a guy with the Memphis Grizzlies who said something about
Speaker 1: strength and numbers when Memphis beat Golden State during the
Speaker 1: regular season. Here's Clay Thompson. There's this one player on
Speaker 1: the Grizzlies who tweeted strength and numbers after they beat
Speaker 1: us in the gregous season, and it pissed me off
Speaker 1: so much. I can't wait to retweet that thing. Freaking
Speaker 1: bum that I have to watch that. I'm just like
Speaker 1: this freaking cloud. Okay, okay, okay, sorry, bat memory just
Speaker 1: popped up. I'm gonna mock us like you ain't ever
Speaker 1: been there before. Bro, We've been there. We know what
Speaker 1: it takes. So to be here again, hold that god,
Speaker 1: oh petty. Yeah. And my eighth grade Jim teacher said
Speaker 1: I'd never made it. I'm gona call him mister Wilson. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But well, here's one thing here. At the NBA Finals,
Speaker 1: they go back to the locker room, they crush some
Speaker 1: champagne and other stuff. Then they do media. By the way, way,
Speaker 1: so they've all had a couple Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that factors. Listen, things up, but grease is the out.
Speaker 1: Steph Curry was asked at so he just wins And
Speaker 1: here's your first question, honestly that the whole final. No,
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, step what does just this mean to you
Speaker 1: to finally be a finals MVP after everything? Forget that
Speaker 1: we chance? Why are you starting with that question? We
Speaker 1: got four championships, right, And he's right, This is about
Speaker 1: winning a championship. It's not about Steph. You won the
Speaker 1: finals MVP. STEP's going in there going we won like
Speaker 1: this is this is on you, This is on the journalist,
Speaker 1: This is on the talking heads, this is this isn't
Speaker 1: about me. This is about you wanting this to be
Speaker 1: about me, and it's not. He didn't need this. He
Speaker 1: got a championship. He didn't need Kevin Durant, you don't
Speaker 1: build around us six two point guard shooting guard who
Speaker 1: weighs one hundred and eighty pounds. And they did it,
Speaker 1: and they created a style, a style that everybody has
Speaker 1: tried to copy and they can't and they've still mastered that.
Speaker 1: Credit to them. Take a break, play the day next.
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Speaker 1: What's the poll question we're going with? Seton Well, Dan,
Speaker 1: We've we've been teasing it for a little bit, but
Speaker 1: we've been sort of populating the If Steph is a
Speaker 1: top ten player all time, who are you taking out? Who?
Speaker 1: Whoom okay um? Are we including Will Chamberlain and Bill Russell? See,
Speaker 1: that's what I think you have to decide. Are we
Speaker 1: going to start with the three point shot, which is
Speaker 1: early eighties? Yeah, po most lists. I'm using lists from
Speaker 1: NBA dot com, The Athletic, which is very respected. The
Speaker 1: way they break down their list ESPN dot com. They
Speaker 1: all have Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain amongst the wherever
Speaker 1: they're located, they're in there. They don't have a line
Speaker 1: of demarcation of nineteen seventy five random like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, what did people say Seton? Well, we haven't
Speaker 1: put it up yet because we're saving it for our
Speaker 1: two Okay, yeah, well then that's not our poll question.
Speaker 1: Now what's our poll question right now? Just looking at
Speaker 1: who's going to be a top ten all time player
Speaker 1: with take we're taking the first hour all yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: Hour two is going to be so big shell explosiph Yeah,
Speaker 1: Chris Mannox is going to join us. Yeah, he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to weigh in on that. Yeah. Uh. Andrew and Washington,
Speaker 1: I Andrew, what's on your mind? Happy meet Friday? Guys,
Speaker 1: what a great night of basketball last night? Just seeing
Speaker 1: a four time champ hours like to see those things.
Speaker 1: But also just for you guys, great week of shows.
Speaker 1: You got Tommy Belle Crow Wallet Bak watches, Daddy Damn,
Speaker 1: then punching step Curry in the face before he went
Speaker 1: to championship, and a four pie Friday for Seaton and
Speaker 1: then it coreated and who called it? Golden State won
Speaker 1: the championship. So um, great week, real quick, I have
Speaker 1: a top ten I did want to weigh in on
Speaker 1: the NBA seventy fifth Anniversary team is number sixteen. Here's
Speaker 1: my top ten all time, no demarcation line. Michael lebron
Speaker 1: Kareem Magic, Wilt, Kobe Russell, step Shack and Bird. Who
Speaker 1: do I have him over? I'd have him over, Duncan, Oscar, Katie, Moses, Malone,
Speaker 1: doctor j and Hakim. I like my top ten. There
Speaker 1: you go, all right, Thank you, Andrew, thank you. Everybody's
Speaker 1: got an opinion. And as I've said many times, I've
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to see everybody in person except for
Speaker 1: Bill Russell. But I did see Wilt at the end
Speaker 1: of his career, and this is when he was a
Speaker 1: defensive force. I know when people say, well, what would
Speaker 1: Wilt do now? I mean Wilt was flawed. Wilt was
Speaker 1: unbelievable during the regular season. He wasn't great during the postseason.
Speaker 1: And if Wilt was going through the postseason now and
Speaker 1: played like he did, he'd get roughed up. But you know,
Speaker 1: you started to look at the transition of the big man,
Speaker 1: and Will was the transition because Bill Russell was just
Speaker 1: an athletic power forward who played center and it was
Speaker 1: unbelievable at doing that. But Will was different, but it's
Speaker 1: a it's a different game now. I don't think you
Speaker 1: can go well if you put him in today's game
Speaker 1: or if I put players from today in the game
Speaker 1: with Wilt, it's what did you do against those you
Speaker 1: played against? How many Hold of famers did you play against?
Speaker 1: You know, keep this in mind with Steph Curry, he
Speaker 1: doesn't have a teammate well current he had KD. Who's
Speaker 1: on the all you know, the top seventy five players.
Speaker 1: You know, Klay Thompson's not on that list, but he
Speaker 1: does have you know, he had KD for two of
Speaker 1: those titles, and that'll probably take away a little bit
Speaker 1: of that. Hey, he should be a top ten player.
Speaker 1: He changed the game great at Shooter of All Time.
Speaker 1: You got a couple MVPs, a unanis MVP, got a
Speaker 1: Finals MVP, and he's part of four titles. You want
Speaker 1: to put him in instead of Tim Duncan. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: you want to say Tim Duncan had Hall of famers
Speaker 1: around him? Man who Jenobli, Tony Parker, David Robinson. Okay,
Speaker 1: like we it feels like it's a it's an argument
Speaker 1: that you like, you can take one side. I'll take
Speaker 1: the other, and then I could flip it around and say,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll take the other side and argue that
Speaker 1: that's what it feels like when it comes to these
Speaker 1: kind of conversations. Tom and North Carolina. Hi, Tom, what's
Speaker 1: on your mind? Good morning? Dan? Morning? Have you meet Friday?
Speaker 1: As you just alluded to, you say that step had
Speaker 1: changed the game? When it's all said and done. As
Speaker 1: far as Steff's legacy and position in the top ten,
Speaker 1: is it going to be based on his personal accomplishments
Speaker 1: or an impact on future teams and future players, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to emulate his game? And also how many other
Speaker 1: players have changed the game, like Staff, negatively or possibly well.
Speaker 1: I think Jordan obviously changed the game because when you
Speaker 1: think about global marketing, that's Michael Jordan. He changed the game.
Speaker 1: The dream Team changed the game. If you look at
Speaker 1: all these players from other countries, they were inspired by
Speaker 1: the Dream Team nineteen ninety two. I don't know who
Speaker 1: else you can look at, you know, Bird with the
Speaker 1: ability to shoot out threes to you know birden magic together,
Speaker 1: I could have a six nine point guard because sometimes
Speaker 1: we get caught up in well, you got to be
Speaker 1: a certain size it's like quarterbacks in the NFL. Wait,
Speaker 1: you're six one. You can't be a starting quarterback. You've
Speaker 1: got to be six four or six five. But what
Speaker 1: Magic did was he said, no, I'm a point guard.
Speaker 1: He said six nine point guard. I think that was
Speaker 1: the first time where you go it doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: size you are, like you can play different positions. Charles
Speaker 1: Barkley at six to four, You went, he's not really
Speaker 1: a power forward. Yeah, yeah he is. He led the
Speaker 1: league and rebounding. You know, you start to categorize there.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if there's anybody else who Bill
Speaker 1: Russell changed the game from the standpoint of being a
Speaker 1: great team player. It was never about his numbers other
Speaker 1: than he won. He won at college at San Francisco,
Speaker 1: he won in the Olympics, and he won with the Celtics,
Speaker 1: And it was about he made others better with his intangibles.
Speaker 1: It wasn't about his raw numbers, but it was about
Speaker 1: his ability to win. And I think when you think
Speaker 1: of basketball, you think of winning, you think of Bill Russell. Yes,
Speaker 1: he how firmly entrenched in that top ten conversation as
Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neill. So I'm looking at this list. Here there's
Speaker 1: an ESPN list from a year or two ago maybe,
Speaker 1: and he's tenth on that list, just behind Kobe at
Speaker 1: nine and Tim Duncan at eight. Uh, it just comes
Speaker 1: down to a preference. I think, like I think it
Speaker 1: chem Elijah On. I loved his game more than I
Speaker 1: did Shack, But it doesn't mean that Shack wasn't a
Speaker 1: dominating player, probably underrated in some circles where you look
Speaker 1: back and you go, damn, those are incredible numbers. It's
Speaker 1: hard to like a big man. We always think you
Speaker 1: gotta be better than what you are. Like, you know,
Speaker 1: you could say that Shack might be the modern day
Speaker 1: Wilt Chamberlain, where you go, yeah, he should have won more.
Speaker 1: It's unfair, a little bit of a bias against big men. Yes,
Speaker 1: in these lists, yes, but it's full of big men.
Speaker 1: Oh there aren't. Steph's the only guy who's a small guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, Kobe was six sixty six step six two
Speaker 1: at at best. So feels like when we look at
Speaker 1: a big man, we're like, yeah, but you know, you
Speaker 1: were the biggest guy and you're the strongest guy. He
Speaker 1: should have been beat you should have won more, you know,
Speaker 1: Wilt should have won more, and he doesn't have a
Speaker 1: good playoff record, and his scoring average not good in
Speaker 1: the postseason will venture into the top ten list. Coming
Speaker 1: up next hour is Steph Curry, a top ten player
Speaker 1: of all time. More phone calls, EAT seven seven three DP,
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Speaker 1: point guard? And see the greatest point guard of all time?
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