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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: Now, how's everybody doing out there on this Thursday? Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you One Bill's Live. Thanks for joining

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Speaker 2: us here this afternoon. As uh, we're getting closer and

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Speaker 2: closer to the draft, and we'll be doing plenty of

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Speaker 2: talk on that in the next few weeks. Here it's

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Speaker 2: three What do we got today? Yeah, it's three weeks

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Speaker 2: from today the NFL Draft. I have from Green Beds.

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Speaker 3: Go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I was thinking, because they they're setting up

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Speaker 4: for an event out in the in the fieldhouse here,

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Speaker 4: the topping off ceremonies. We'll get to that second, right,

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Speaker 4: And so when you started talking about it, I thought, well,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna have a draft party. Remember the days when

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Speaker 4: we used to draft high and we'd have a big event.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'll give me the thirtieth pick. I'll take it,

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Speaker 4: you know. I mean, so instead of having three thousand

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Speaker 4: people showing up to see who we're gonna pick in

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Speaker 4: the top five of the draft, we can relax and

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Speaker 4: hope we trade back or something. You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember I was at the draft party on

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Speaker 2: night two and I was introducing Marcel Darius who had

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Speaker 2: flown into it.

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Speaker 4: I did the same thing. I introduced Steph Gilmore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah wow, look at that on cute not even hear man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, give me, give me where we're at now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take it.

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Speaker 2: Uh what? Also what also is inching closer are off

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Speaker 2: season programs for the league's thirty two clubs. The NFL

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Speaker 2: released the off season workout dates for their thirty two clubs.

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Speaker 2: For the Bills, the first day of their offseason conditioning

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Speaker 2: program will be Monday, April twenty. First OTA workouts will

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Speaker 2: be May twenty seventh to the twenty ninth, June second

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Speaker 2: to the third, and June fifth, and then mandatory mini

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Speaker 2: camp will be June tenth to the twelfth. I got

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Speaker 2: to take the time when I get a chance. I'm

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Speaker 2: up to my eyeballs and draft prospect review. But I

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Speaker 2: thought that there were nine to ten OTA practices that

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Speaker 2: and listed here are only six days of OTA workouts.

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Speaker 2: So I'll have to check some of the other teams

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Speaker 2: and I could have sworn it used to be nine,

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Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, they used to if I think it was

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Speaker 4: We're gonna do, uh, Monday, Wednesday, Friday this week, Monday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what they're doing.

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Speaker 4: Stick around for you.

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Speaker 2: But there's only six. So I'll have to look into

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Speaker 2: that and get to the bottom of that, and once

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Speaker 2: I do, I'll share it with everybody else. There are

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Speaker 2: multiple reports now that East Carolina cornerback prospect Chevron Revel

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Speaker 2: Revel is considered one of the top five cornerback prospects

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Speaker 2: hasn't tested or worked out. No doubt the medical rechecks

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Speaker 2: on him will be closely scrutinized, but he has ideal

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Speaker 4: He has been linked to the Bills, and now he's

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Speaker 4: taken a visit. We have, you know, as the deeper

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I think as part of their crits area.

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Speaker 4: There's no question about it. So it's when you start

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Speaker 2: And if you draft two corners, yeah, so.

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Speaker 4: I'm more and more. I pay a ton of attention

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Speaker 4: to the tools, yeah, you know, to the hard especially

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Speaker 2: Know, especially high in the draft. Yes, we do have

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Speaker 2: a programming, know we want to make you aware of.

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Speaker 2: As some of you may have heard Steve just referenced it,

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Speaker 2: the Bills will be holding their top off ceremony tomorrow

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Speaker 2: on site at the new high Mark Stadium. As the

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Speaker 2: final piece of steel is laid on the new home

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Speaker 2: of the Bills. We'll have plenty of coverage of this

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Speaker 2: event on our show Friday, including an appearance by Vice

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Speaker 2: President of Stadium Development John Polkou will join us in

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Speaker 2: studio here tomorrow, So looking forward to that conversation as

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Speaker 2: we take another step closer to stadium completion. So be

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Speaker 2: that tomorrow. Today, we've got a former Bill joining us

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Speaker 2: on the show. Former Bill's quarterback Frank Reich, one of

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Speaker 2: Steve's teammates, obviously, will hop on with us. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to him about his new gig as head coach of

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Speaker 2: Stanford Football and his upcoming call to Courage Breakfast this Saturday,

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Speaker 2: where this year's honoree is Bill's tight end Dawson Knox.

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Speaker 2: And it's a very unique role that he has accepted

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Speaker 2: Because they had to move on from their previous coach,

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So it's and Frank's would probably be as as

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Speaker 2: So it gives them credibility very hard to find at

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Speaker 2: system of the Buffalo Bills. Patriots are trading quarterback Joe

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Speaker 2: Milton and a seventh round pick to the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 2: right there, because Milton was a seventh rounder himself for

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Speaker 2: a number of reasons, considered a raw prospect, toolsy quarterback,

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Speaker 2: why he was a seventh round draft choice. But looked

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Speaker 4: Yeah. He's big, very gifted physically. And the question is

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Speaker 4: because you know when you started to throw the and

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Speaker 4: you told me this too, when you start throwing the

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Speaker 4: football down the field, Milton has a hard time putting

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Speaker 4: it on the money with consistency. That is something you

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Speaker 4: an entire offseason to work on it, at least a little.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got some work to do though. Sure, and

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Speaker 4: He's a I mean, they're saying that you say the

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Speaker 4: same stuff about Joe Milton they said about Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: Telling you man, Josh is still polarizing, and he's been

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Speaker 2: And I apologize. He was a sixth round draft choice.

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Speaker 4: I'm sitting here pontificating about how a guy like Joe

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Speaker 2: would have gone to the Texans. The Steelers ponied up money.

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Speaker 2: He goes to Pittsburgh. But he had been asking out quietly.

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Speaker 2: I get it for the last couple of offseasons. Which

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta move.

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Speaker 4: You gotta move it. Can't you really have to becomes

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Speaker 2: Not after next season. No, just go go hit the market.

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Speaker 2: And oftentimes, Steve, this isn't you know. Oftentimes a year

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Speaker 4: Mike Wallace, Mike, That's what I was thinking. There's it

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Speaker 2: You could throw Leveon Bell in there. Left Bell is

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Speaker 4: But Mike Tomlin's ability to keep a lid on that

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Speaker 2: That guy should be like White House level press secretary

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Speaker 4: And so if they're talking, if they're talking to Golden

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Speaker 2: I think what would impress Rogers more is if the

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: I think they're taking a tackle at twenty one. You're

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Speaker 2: like have fun running the football guys and protecting an

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Speaker 4: I agree with you they got to That's where I

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Speaker 2: But I'm not in a and that would be a

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Speaker 4: They for those of you wondering they pick at twenty one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Other draft news, the Saints, who we have even speculated

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's got some wonky decisions at the end

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if they're talking to him, they may, well you

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Speaker 2: We wanted it a round two. We got to get

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Speaker 4: Who would they Yeah, well who would that be? Though?

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Speaker 4: That's the thing. You get these and that's that's a problem.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think Shador Sanders is going two or three,

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Speaker 2: This is what the number is. Hope you like it.

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Speaker 4: From I had seventeen and a half sacks two years

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Speaker 4: in a row. So Hendrickson's only defensive player you've got

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 2: Of note, yeah, Sam Hubbard retired on the other side. Oh,

439
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Speaker 2: I think they resigned bj Hill though, so they have

440
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Speaker 2: that starting defensive tackle there. But this is your best

441
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Speaker 2: defensive player. You still have Logan Wilson, that's great, nice

442
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: middle linebacker, but this is your this is your headliner.

443
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Speaker 2: This is your difference maker. You know, we hear about

444
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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott talking about difference makers two or three on

445
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Speaker 2: either side of the ball. This is their only one.

446
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Speaker 4: They've got their numbers and their budget set certainly, and

447
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 4: they've they've blown the budget on the offensive side of

448
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Speaker 4: the ball. We talked about it all off season, Jamar

449
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Speaker 4: Chase T. Higgins and Joe Burrow. I get it. And

450
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Speaker 4: now you've got another fourth one, the only defensive guy

451
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Speaker 4: you've talked to. And you know, there's two things that

452
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Speaker 4: work here for Cincinnati, one for us. Talking about Cincinnati

453
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Speaker 4: and US around not just us, but around the league.

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Speaker 4: The conversation has been they're not gonna sign t Higgins

455
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Speaker 4: and Jamar Chase to contracts with Trey Hendrickson there because

456
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Speaker 4: A the Bengals are too cheap to do it and B,

457
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Speaker 4: which we never really got to because we didn't think

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Speaker 4: the Bengals were would spend the money. B how smart

459
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Speaker 4: would it be?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's not forget this team also signed tight

461
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Speaker 2: end Mike Gasiki to a three year, twenty five million

462
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: dollar deal. You're not breaking the bank, but that's another

463
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Speaker 2: eight per going to your tight end.

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Speaker 4: So not only was it the fact that we didn't

465
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Speaker 4: believe that Cincinnati was going to spend the money, you

466
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Speaker 4: didn't even have to think about the fact that, no

467
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Speaker 4: know how smart.

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Speaker 2: It is, there's no money left.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so you're gonna be have these what five

470
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Speaker 4: a handful of players if Hendrickson signs whatever they want

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Speaker 4: him to sign, which has got to beat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Hendrickson's entering the final year of his deal

473
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Speaker 2: and the team told him in a meeting with his

474
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Speaker 2: agent last year that something would get done with his

475
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Speaker 2: contract this year, and he said it was reiterated at

476
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Speaker 2: the combine in February. So don't write checks that your

477
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Speaker 2: dairy ear can't cash. Like, you can't mislead a player

478
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Speaker 2: with that garbage, because then you get this a sour

479
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Speaker 2: puss who's not going to be happy.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know what they were thinking. The number

481
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Speaker 4: was going to be in February. At the combine, a

482
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Speaker 4: guy just hung another seventeen and a half on on you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's bad business. That's just not the way

484
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Speaker 2: to handle that stuff.

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Speaker 4: Well, I get it too, it's and now you're saying, hey,

486
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Speaker 4: be happy with this.

487
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Speaker 2: Here should be happy.

488
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Speaker 4: Players take it personal. There's just no other way they do.

489
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Speaker 4: They just do. They take it personal. It's not personal.

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Speaker 4: The GM doesn't mean a person. Nobody means it personal.

491
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Speaker 4: But this is our value we're putting on you, and

492
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Speaker 4: you know, we're looking at the numbers and our roster

493
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Speaker 4: and our budget and the money out of the money,

494
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Speaker 4: the whole thing, and this is where we've got you.

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Speaker 4: It's not it's not personal. Players take it personal.

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Speaker 2: They should trade him, that's what they should do, and

497
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Speaker 2: try to get a high pick in return. Maybe you

498
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Speaker 2: get it too, for you know, Trey Hendrickson, and go

499
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Speaker 2: get another pass rusher. Because this guy is not going

500
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Speaker 2: to be happy in your building. To the point we

501
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Speaker 2: just made about DK Metcalf, that's gonna be him this year, right?

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Speaker 4: How is it not some yeah, and you were he.

503
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Speaker 2: Was promised something by this team and they are not

504
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Speaker 2: coming through.

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Speaker 4: For We'll say something very It'll say something good about

506
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Speaker 4: the Bengals if they do trade him. If he's not

507
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Speaker 4: going to be happy, he wasn't, let's get something for him,

508
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Speaker 4: get what we can get, and let's cut bait.

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Speaker 2: That's what I would do.

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Speaker 4: It makes a lot of sense for Cincinnati. I don't

511
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Speaker 4: know that they'll play with that, but you know, you

512
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Speaker 4: gotta move on. You don't want an unhappy dude in

513
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Speaker 4: your locker room. I just don't.

514
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Speaker 2: I just can't see how that's not him come training

515
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Speaker 2: camp and whether it's a holdout, a hold in, and

516
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Speaker 2: you know it's just you're gonna run through it all

517
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Speaker 2: over again. The Chiefs have signed free agent safety Mike Edwards.

518
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: Edwards was a free agent signing of the Bills last offseason,

519
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: you might remember, but kind of washed out after some

520
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: injuries compromised him getting on the field. Then he couldn't

521
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Speaker 2: break into the starting lineup wasn't thrilled with that, so

522
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Speaker 2: he was released, landed in Tampa Bay. He's now back

523
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Speaker 2: with the team where he won a Super Bowl two

524
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Speaker 2: years ago. He ended up having to replace starting free

525
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Speaker 2: safety Brian Cook for the Chiefs that year. Played pretty

526
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Speaker 2: well down the stretch, which led to the opportunity here

527
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Speaker 2: with Buffalo, But he had a bad hamstring injury and

528
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Speaker 2: training camp last summer and really just fell woefully behind

529
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Speaker 2: and couldn't crack the starting lineup. So he's back with

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Speaker 2: Kansas City and then Andrew Whitworth. I'm curious for your

531
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Speaker 2: thoughts on this. Steve, as we know, retired Pro Bowl lineman,

532
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Speaker 2: finished his career with the Rams. Now part of Prime

533
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Speaker 2: Videos Thursday Night Football Crew says it's time for the

534
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Speaker 2: NFL to wreck it n offensive linement. At year's end.

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Speaker 2: He wants an award for the best offensive lineman in

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Speaker 2: the league for that season. His working title is the

537
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Speaker 2: Shield Award. You know, we have the NFL Honors. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I guess you want to add an award to the pile.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Yeah, why not.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with that, not.

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Speaker 4: At all, not at all.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Now, after that defensive linement will come out

543
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: and say, well, what about a defensive line award. Yeah,

544
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Speaker 2: they do have a defensive Player of the Year award,

545
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Speaker 2: just like they have an offensive Player of the Year award.

546
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Speaker 2: But an offensive Player of the Year award never goes

547
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Speaker 2: to a linement.

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Speaker 4: It's a difficult it's a difficult position group to evaluate

549
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Speaker 4: and and I don't know quantify. Certainly, left tackle is

550
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Speaker 4: a guy who is key. And you get some elite

551
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 4: athletes and guys out there, but in the locker room

552
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Speaker 4: and how it works, you know around the league is

553
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Speaker 4: you it's a group you. I would be more inclined

554
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Speaker 4: to say, hey, let's make it the best offensive you know,

555
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: the Shield award goes to the five guys and on

556
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Speaker 4: this team, best line, best offensive line. Those guys are

557
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 4: always together, you know. I mean they're like, you talk

558
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 4: about how well this this guy, that guy, that guy.

559
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 4: Then you always talk about your offensive line. It's five

560
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 4: guys you're talking about. You use one word to describe them.

561
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Speaker 4: I would be more inclined instead of individualizing it, give

562
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Speaker 4: it to the group, and it would be it would

563
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 4: be a group. It would be all the guys who

564
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 4: have played for that team. I mean, certainly you get

565
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: guys shuffling in and out and because of the injury thing,

566
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Speaker 4: and I'd be more in tune with a group award

567
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Speaker 4: rather than just an individual.

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Speaker 2: May have to send a memo to Andrew Whitworth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it though, He's right, why not? Those

570
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 4: guys deserve it big time.

571
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's around the NFL top a discussion for

572
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Speaker 2: you today. Need you to rank the top three priorities

573
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Speaker 2: the Bills must address in the draft. You can do

574
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 2: it positionally, you can do it side of the ball.

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00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: However you choose to do it. Rank the top three

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Speaker 2: priorities the Bills must address in the draft later this month.

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Speaker 2: Eight oh three ZHO five point fifty one eighty eight,

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Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifty Those are the numbers to

579
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Speaker 2: jump on board with us. We do have open lines

580
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Speaker 2: for you. No time to call, you can always hit

581
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Speaker 2: us up on the tweet sheeted as well at One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. We take a break here your phone calls.

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Speaker 2: Next stay with us here on One Bill's Live. Chris

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Speaker 2: Brown Steve task. You're asking you to rank the top

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Speaker 2: three priorities the Bills must address in the draft three

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00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: weeks from today, and we go to the phones at

587
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: eight oh three zero five fifty one eight eight eight

588
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty and lead off with Cleveland

589
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Speaker 2: and Niagara Falls. What's up Cleveland's hold on Churs?

590
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 5: How are you feeling it?

591
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: In?

592
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 5: Every time I call in, I keep beating the same drum,

593
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 5: and you keep correcting me when they make sure I

594
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 5: get his name right this time, Isaiah Williams, am I.

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00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: Correct, yes, I believe that is correct, all right.

596
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 5: Isaiah Williams, Isaiah Williams, Isaiah Williams. I love him, I

597
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 5: want them, I like them, and I want them to

598
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 5: answer your question. I think it's all defense. I think,

599
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 5: you know, I don't know if we're giving the Palmer

600
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 5: guy a chance or enough credit. Maybe I don't know

601
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 5: what the word is, because you know, we all want

602
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 5: that number one receiver. I don't think we should be

603
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Speaker 5: able we should pick up more than one offensive player

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Speaker 5: in the draft. I think Josh Allen has his quality

605
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 5: about him that he makes people around him better. I

606
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 5: always talk about how good the coaching is, how they

607
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 5: coach coach guys up real good. So I think we

608
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 5: need to go all defense. And as much as we

609
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 5: talk about defensive tackles, I think our biggest need is

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Speaker 5: at cornerback. I remember you talked about it's, you know,

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00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 5: tough to draft for need and you end up with

612
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Speaker 5: the Kyrie Elam, But I mean it's tough to you know,

613
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Speaker 5: when we were it's looking like we're not going to

614
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Speaker 5: be may or may not get a Santa Samuel or

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Speaker 5: pick up a veteran quarterback. I think we need to

616
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Speaker 5: go really really hard on the secondary defensive bets, not

617
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 5: just corner bets, but people that can play in the

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Speaker 5: secondary and sort it out from there and definitely hit

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Speaker 5: that line up at least two guys on that line.

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Speaker 5: But I think we need to go really really hard

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Speaker 5: on that secondary.

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Speaker 4: All right, thanks Le, appreciate that, Paul, I would agree.

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Speaker 4: I'm at as as a roster currently sits, Brownie's hammering it,

624
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 4: and he's right, you really would love to get a

625
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 4: guy who can just walk in the building and start

626
00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 4: at corner opposite Christian Benford. That would really go a

627
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: long way toward alleviating some angst about where the roster

628
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 4: sits right at the current moment. Then you then you

629
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 4: could kind of breathe a sigh of relief. Now certainly,

630
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Speaker 4: I mean that's not all you're gonna do. And you're right,

631
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,719
Speaker 4: you're gonna get a couple of defendive, big defenders up

632
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 4: front in this draft. I would Yeah, I think the

633
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Speaker 4: over unders two and a half big guys up front. Uh,

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Speaker 4: with if they pick ten picks. If if they pick

635
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 4: all ten, I'll bet you get two, maybe three upfront guys.

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Speaker 4: Some of them might be late day you know, day

637
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: three guys, but still you're gonna grab those guys. I'm

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00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 4: so I'm with you, Cleveland. You're right, Uh in the

639
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 4: current moment. You know, you look at the list of

640
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 4: guys we've got on the roster, love them all, but

641
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: you need some guys. You need somebody who's gonna walk

642
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 4: in and line up opposite Christian Benford like on day one. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, we've got just about a minute here before the

644
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: break will squeeze in Butcher on the east side. What's

645
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: up Butcher?

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Speaker 6: First of all, good afternoon, gentlemen. Thanks for taking my

647
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Speaker 6: call him a real brief. Like you said, you got

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Speaker 6: a minute, so I'm gonna get right to it.

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Speaker 1: I love w J.

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Speaker 6: I love him as jail of all the fans he's listening.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna get to a real I know we can

652
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Speaker 6: talk about fantasy. We're gonna get to the real point.

653
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Speaker 6: We have a general manager named Brandon Bean, and a

654
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Speaker 6: lot of people are missing what's going on around here.

655
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Speaker 6: First of all, we had Kyrie Elam who was the

656
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 6: cornerback that we couldn't get rid of, or we could,

657
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 6: but we didn't want to. We found a trading part

658
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Speaker 6: as you guys already know, it's business. This business on

659
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 6: ten Toles his business. They stand on business. He has

660
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 6: a trading partner with the Dallas Cowboys. You already got

661
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 6: Connor mc governor of the year before he went ahead

662
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 6: and he got Now you got elim more there today

663
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 6: Joe Hamilton got traded from New England to Dallas. At

664
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Speaker 6: the same time he picked up an extra five in

665
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Speaker 6: the trade right now, Brandon Bean, and I'm not gonna

666
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 6: use the word use the word reckless, but I am

667
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 6: going to say he stood on the ground about what

668
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 6: are you going to do about the cap? He's not

669
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Speaker 6: thinking about Cook. Cook put his house up the sale.

670
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 6: It's possibly, I'm gonna say it's a possive. I know

671
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Speaker 6: for a fact that that Cook is gonna be going

672
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Speaker 6: on the NFL Draft and it's a possibility. Now, this

673
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 6: is the possibility, is that the Dallas Cowboys is a

674
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Speaker 6: trade partner because they need a running back. But I'm

675
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 6: just going to say this, do not be surprised if

676
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 6: Dak Press got that rumor of that Dak Prescott going

677
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 6: to Cleveland is like they said a week ago, is

678
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 6: a real deal. I can see Dak Prescott going to

679
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 6: Cleveland and they getting picked, and Big Baller Bean is

680
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 6: going to trade James Cook to the Dallas Cowboys and

681
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Speaker 6: get some more picks for that draft. I love each

682
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Speaker 6: and every one of you. Thanks so much for taking

683
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Speaker 6: my call, and I have a great day.

684
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Speaker 3: All right.

685
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Speaker 2: So, Butcher is raising the possibility of Cook being moved

686
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Speaker 2: in a trade draft weekend. I think the only way

687
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: that gains steam is if the Bills draft are running

688
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: back on draft weekend. If they have a draft pick

689
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Speaker 2: that they utilize on a running back draft weekend, somewhere

690
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Speaker 2: in the first four rounds. Yeah, I think the possibility

691
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Speaker 2: could be increased because I don't know how you have

692
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Speaker 2: room for a draft pick running back James Cook, Ty Johnson,

693
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: Ray Davis, and Reggie Gilliam on your roster. Are you

694
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: carrying five probably not. No, no, So I think if

695
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: they draft a running back, well then that might happen.

696
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Speaker 4: I follow the logic for butch on with a you

697
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: know that trade. That's it. But that's a lot of

698
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 4: moving parts that it's going to take a month to

699
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 4: come to fruition. And that's and that's transposing our thought

700
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: process onto the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Jones and their

701
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 4: whole program down there, and us transferring our thought process

702
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 4: onto Brandon Bean and what they're thinking about James Cook.

703
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 2: And there's a multi step connecting of the dots.

704
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Speaker 4: Yeah, if all that happens, but you are a genius,

705
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 4: fair enough, and yeah it could. It's on the table,

706
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 4: but I you know, that's a lot of moving parts

707
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Speaker 4: to call your shot at this.

708
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Speaker 2: We have to step aside here because when we come back,

709
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna be joined by the new head coach at Stanford.

710
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: It's former Bills quarterback Frank Reich going to join us

711
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: to talk about that and is called to courage Breakfast

712
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: coming up here in Buffalo this weekend. He joined us

713
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Speaker 2: next year on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health.

714
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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on one

715
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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and please

716
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Speaker 2: to be joined now by former Bills quarterback and current

717
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Speaker 2: Stanford head football coach Frank Reich, who's also got his

718
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Speaker 2: annual Call to Courage Awards breakfast coming up here in

719
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Speaker 2: Buffalo this Saturday, April fifth, which is sold out already.

720
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Speaker 2: Steve sold out. The award going to Dawson Knox, Bill's

721
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Speaker 2: tight End. So we'll talk to Frank about that. But

722
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: got to get to this other headline news that happened

723
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Speaker 2: this week Frank. You know, for people like us that

724
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Speaker 2: aren't completely in the loop as to Frank Reich's whereabouts

725
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: and activities, all of a sudden, there he is, BAM

726
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Speaker 2: head coach of Stanford. How did it come together?

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you it was pretty exciting and pretty unique.

728
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 7: And so yeah, I was hanging out in Greensboro with

729
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 7: you know, Lynda and I a couple of months ago

730
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Speaker 7: after the Super Bowl, after the Eagles won the Super Bowl.

731
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Speaker 7: You know, we sat down and really talked through, prayed through.

732
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Speaker 7: You know, we were going to be finished with coaching

733
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Speaker 7: and just kind of moving on to our next phase.

734
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Speaker 7: And it was a tremendous thirty year run thirty plus

735
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 7: year run playing and coaching, and and we were thankful

736
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Speaker 7: for that, but ready, you know, ready to move on,

737
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 7: and said, there would only be the most unique situation

738
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Speaker 7: and it had to be the exact right person in

739
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 7: the exact right place to consider anything. And then, uh,

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Speaker 7: you know, a week ago or so, I'm in Costco

741
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Speaker 7: doing a little shopping and the phone rings and it's

742
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Speaker 7: Andrew Luck and he got on the phone said, Frank,

743
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 7: no small talk. I need your help. You know, I

744
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 7: needed to come work for me, Come be the head

745
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 7: coach for the twenty twenty five season. I said, that's

746
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 7: a rather unique situation, Andrew. And I said, but it

747
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 7: might just work out perfect, because that sounds like exactly

748
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Speaker 7: something like I would like to do for you know,

749
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Speaker 7: give it all for a one year with you at

750
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Speaker 7: a very unique place in Stanford University. And flew out

751
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Speaker 7: the next day. We spent the day together, flew home,

752
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 7: talked it through with Linda, you know, took a couple

753
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 7: of days to kind of work through the details, and

754
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Speaker 7: here we.

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Speaker 4: Are and that's it really is kind of a unique thing.

756
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Speaker 4: And I thought when I heard about it, it's it

757
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 4: was a very smart move by Andrew because they've got

758
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Speaker 4: to know this kind of takes a little bit off

759
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 4: your plate and write and then pile some other different

760
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: stuff on your plate. You don't have to get a staff, right,

761
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: I mean, they've got that in play place. You come in,

762
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 4: you steady the ship. But also it gives them the

763
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Speaker 4: ability to go out and interview guys because they know

764
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Speaker 4: this is a one year deal. It's a unique situation.

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Speaker 4: It is something unpresent because I think even if they

766
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Speaker 4: hired somebody from within to be the indrum, that guy

767
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 4: would be in the mix for the head coach. That

768
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Speaker 4: kind of it. So you really clean You did clean

769
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Speaker 4: up a big mess that had been dropped into Andrew

770
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Speaker 4: Luck's lap.

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Speaker 7: Correct, Yeah, and that's that's Andrews. That's Andrews. What's interesting,

772
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Speaker 7: Steve and Chris is that you know, I mean, Andrew's

773
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Speaker 7: knew on the job of being the GM of running

774
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Speaker 7: a football program, and you know, I think, but this

775
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 7: is who he is. You know, he's a smart guy,

776
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 7: but he's not just a smart guy. He's learned to

777
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 7: trust his instincts, and his instinct was that this was

778
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 7: the right move. And so, like you said, you know,

779
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Speaker 7: the transition comes out an awkward time. This is not

780
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Speaker 7: the time and place to go out on a full

781
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 7: blown head coaching search. And but Andrew's big point to me,

782
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Speaker 7: and it's certainly one of the reasons why I wanted

783
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 7: to come here, was listen, this is not We're not

784
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 7: taking a step back. We're not hitting the pause button.

785
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 7: You know, we gotta we got to make progress, and

786
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Speaker 7: that means several things. Number one, it means get you know,

787
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Speaker 7: create the culture, you know, create a foundation for a

788
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 7: culture that we want. And then number two, we need results,

789
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 7: so you want both. So that's that's that's what we're

790
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 7: going to do.

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Speaker 2: For the players who are returning, how have you framed

792
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: this for them? Because you're here for a year and

793
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: then it gets turned over, how have you framed it

794
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: for them?

795
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Speaker 7: So this, again, this is vintage Andrew Luck. But when

796
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 7: he called me and said he he's he is mister transparency, right,

797
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 7: mister straightforward. I'm going to hit you right in the

798
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 7: mouth with the truth and we're going to trust that.

799
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Speaker 7: And that's what I said to Andrew when we started

800
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Speaker 7: talking it through. You know, his first thing to me was, Frank,

801
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 7: I'm just going to be very transparent with you. You know,

802
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 7: you're the only person I want for this, but it's

803
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 7: only one year, and uh, you know, because for the

804
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 7: longer term vision, you know, YadA, YadA, YadA. And I said, well, Andrew,

805
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 7: I would feel the exact same because I wouldn't be

806
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 7: looking for any any long term thing. And so when

807
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 7: we started talking about, well, how are we going to

808
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 7: communicate to the players, the good news was we didn't

809
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 7: have to make anything up.

810
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 5: You know.

811
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Speaker 7: It was like he was just going to tell the truth.

812
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 7: And so that's the way we did it. And I

813
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 7: just when I spoke with the team, you know, I say, guys,

814
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 7: this is a unique situation, but we came here to

815
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 7: get better, we came here to win, and we're excited

816
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 7: about what we're going to do. So let's embrace this.

817
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 7: This could be a unique and a year to remember.

818
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 7: So let's embrace that and move forward.

819
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Speaker 4: And that's really it kind of gets lost in it,

820
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 4: particularly with Nil and how everybody's a little bit cynical

821
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 4: about how the college game is with you, the transfer

822
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 4: portal and that kind of thing. But really the first

823
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 4: consideration for Andrew and you now is the kids, right.

824
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: I mean, you got to do right by these players

825
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 4: who are going to go out and lay it on

826
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 4: the line for Stanford and their own careers and their

827
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 4: families and the whole thing. Right, you can really have

828
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 4: to be sensitive as to where they are and in

829
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Speaker 4: their career.

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Speaker 7: Well, no, no question, Steve. And really that's what I

831
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Speaker 7: heard from Andrew. More than anything, is Frank, I The

832
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 7: reason that this makes sense to me is because I

833
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 7: I am trying to do right by the kids, number one,

834
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 7: but also the current coaching staff and so you know,

835
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 7: you know, so Frank, come in here and build into

836
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 7: these coaches and build into these players. Bring all your

837
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 7: years of experience, you know, all the experts, whatever expertise

838
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 7: you have, bring it to bear and to see Andrew

839
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 7: knows he's experienced. You know, us working together that I

840
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 7: don't come in saying have all the end. You know,

841
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 7: we're going to collaborate. We're going to work together. I'm

842
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 7: going to get to know the coaches and the players

843
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 7: and we're going to work this through together. We're going

844
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 7: to provide a clear direction, We're going to provide the

845
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 7: standards that we're going to operate according by a team.

846
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 7: But now, really what I like trying to do is, hey,

847
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 7: let's all get together on the same page, let's communicate

848
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 7: what we want, how we're going to get there, and

849
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 7: let's have fun doing it.

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Speaker 2: Last one for me on this subject, on a much

851
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 2: lighter level, did you have to kind of wrap your

852
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: head around the fact that you actually will have some

853
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: road games not too far from where you've spent the

854
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: life last thirty years because Stanford's in the ACC. Have

855
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: you read Have you kind of wrapped your head around

856
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 2: that a little bit because that's geographically weird.

857
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's funny, Chris, because I did and immediately looked

858
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 7: at the schedule and saw, you know, we will I

859
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 7: think we played back east three or four times, including

860
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 7: out in North Carolina, which is obviously, you know, an

861
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 7: hour down the road from where we're living. So uh,

862
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 7: you know, get to see family. My family will get

863
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 7: to come to a few games on the East Coast.

864
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Speaker 7: So yeah, it is funny that they're in the ACC.

865
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Speaker 7: But it's also cool that, you know, having played in

866
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Speaker 7: the ACC and won ACC championships, so it's good to

867
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Speaker 7: be back in that conference.

868
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 4: So Frank, for the last couple of decades, you've made

869
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 4: the pilgrimage back to Western New York for the Call

870
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 4: to Courage breakfast and and he looked down the list

871
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 4: of guys who you have who have received the Cold

872
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 4: of Courage Award and it's a it's an impressive list.

873
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 4: And of course this year, Dawson Knox you announce that

874
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: you told us just before it came on, you announced

875
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 4: Dawson Knox was going to win the award and the

876
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 4: tickets were gone. Tell us about what could be special

877
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 4: besides Dawson about this year and the fact that you're

878
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: going to continue this legacy.

879
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean this is you know, twenty some years

880
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 7: now doing this, and it's our way to stay connected

881
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 7: to Buffalo and to continue to give back. We've been

882
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 7: so blessed through that community and this is really a

883
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 7: special event, you know, to us, and you know by

884
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 7: what we do Steve and Chris as you guys know,

885
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 7: and Steve you've been a part of this for many years.

886
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 7: But you know, we're trying to honor a player who

887
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 7: exemplifies Christian character on and off the field, and we

888
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 7: really just want that to inspire the seven hundred plus

889
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 7: people who will be there, you know, and it's all about, hey,

890
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 7: how do we live out our faith?

891
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 5: You know?

892
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 7: In our home, at our vocation, you know, and in

893
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 7: the community. And so we take and we honor a

894
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 7: guy like Dawson Knox and we basically say, hey, Dawson,

895
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 7: we want to give you to call the courage a

896
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 7: ward because you live out your faith in every aspect

897
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 7: of your life. Tell us about how you do that,

898
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 7: and we hope that's an inspiration to everybody that's there.

899
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: And I know you also kind of take time, you know,

900
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: speaking to giving back to the community. You also recognize

901
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: a high school athlete as well as a college football player.

902
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, and those are special times, you know, as we

903
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 7: get to know those younger players and they get to

904
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 7: kind of rub shoulders with Dawson and the like. And

905
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Speaker 7: and I have to really give a lot of credit

906
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 7: to you know, Fred Rains and Joe Chiefa, who really

907
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 7: run the whole show and their board. But because and

908
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 7: then we always have a special time where we talk

909
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 7: Buffalo Bills, you know, football. So the first part of

910
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 7: the breakfast is centered around locals, you know, It's around

911
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 7: the Buffalo Bills and what's happening there. It's around the

912
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 7: local kids and the local people in the area. And

913
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 7: then and then we kind of get to the big

914
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 7: NFL award, and that's the call the courage, and of

915
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 7: course that highlight, that's the kind of pinnacle of the breakfast,

916
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 7: given that award to Dawson Knox and then allowing him

917
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 7: ten minutes or so to kind of tell us all

918
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Speaker 7: about a Dawson.

919
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 4: It's funny because I was looking forward to this dinner

920
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago and or this breakfast and thinking, well,

921
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: Frank's gonna have nothing but free time. He's gonna, you know,

922
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 4: he's kinda maybe come in.

923
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 7: I got three thousand miles back.

924
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 4: To the breakfast, right right, and all of a sudden,

925
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 4: you're neck deep and busy again.

926
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Speaker 5: Well.

927
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 7: The interesting thing is when Andrew and I came to

928
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 7: the agreement that we were gonna that I was gonna

929
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 7: take this position, I said, well, I'm able to clear

930
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 7: my schedule of everything, but one thing, I gotta go

931
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Speaker 7: back to Buffalo. And so we kind of tweaked the

932
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 7: spring schedule and moved to practice round so that I

933
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Speaker 7: could come back there.

934
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: All right, Frank, Well, good to catch up with you here.

935
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Speaker 2: We will both see you on Saturday morning save travels

936
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Speaker 2: into town.

937
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Speaker 7: Okay, thanks Chris, all right, that's Frank.

938
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: Right, former Bill's quarterback, current head coach of the Stanford

939
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: Cardinal and he'll be hosting his Call to Courage Breakfast,

940
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 2: the twenty first edition this Saturday. So it's always a

941
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 2: popular event. I mean, I know you've been to a

942
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 2: ton of them. I've been to a handful of them.

943
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 4: I've missed maybe one or two for different reasons. And yeah,

944
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 4: it's it's a great event. It's it's a big time event,

945
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 4: and it's well done.

946
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: You walk out of there feeling lighter, if that makes sense,

947
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 2: Like just it's just good vibes for two hours.

948
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 4: It's really very much.

949
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Speaker 2: It's really a quality event. So glad Frank brought that

950
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: back after a brief one year hiatus last year. It's

951
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 2: back on for its twenty first edition. We have to

952
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: stop and take a break here, but when we come

953
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: back and begin our number two, we're gonna be doing

954
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Speaker 2: it with ESPN National NFL analyst Ben Solac has some

955
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: free agency class rankings in terms of the rosters. He

956
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: feels our most improved, and we've got some names we're

957
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: gonna throw at him in the draft pool, including one

958
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: who's reportedly making a pre draft visit to Buffalo. We'll

959
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: get to all of that when we return with Ben

960
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: Solac here on One Bill's Live presented by Cold of Health.

961
00:48:56,040 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 8: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

962
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Calida Health.

963
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: All Right, hour number two Here on a Thursday, Chris

964
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: Brown Steve Tasker with you and talking draft, among other things,

965
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 2: as we inch closer now, just three weeks away from

966
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, a draft in which

967
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 2: the Bills have ten selections, seven of those on Day

968
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Speaker 2: three right now, the other three on days one and two.

969
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: But we welcome in from ESPN their national NFL analyst

970
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: Ben Solec and Ben First, thanks for giving us some

971
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 2: time here so tight to the draft, and before we

972
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Speaker 2: get to some of the draft conversation, I want you

973
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Speaker 2: to help me close the book on free agency for

974
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Speaker 2: the most part. We know there's always post draft signings

975
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 2: in May and June, but the bulk of free agency

976
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,479
Speaker 2: is over. I know you took the time to try

977
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: to assess the most improved rosters around the league. Who

978
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 2: did the best here in terms of free agency?

979
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 4: Ads?

980
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that obviously the teams that have the

981
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 9: most money are going to do the best in terms

982
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 9: of free agency ads. Right, So the Patriots added a

983
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 9: bunch of good players. Yeah, that's what happens when you

984
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 9: have all that cash. Of the Minnesota Vikings did a

985
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 9: good job adding to be offensive line, you know, keeping

986
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 9: Byron Murphy in the building.

987
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 10: I thought they did an excellent job as well.

988
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 9: The Bills were largely a team that extended internal talent, right, Yo,

989
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 9: see Hajoi Bosa, you have Josh Palmer. The best thing

990
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 9: that they did was a lot of their their their

991
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 9: keeping of guys. They're extending of guys. Greg Russau came

992
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 9: in I think way under his public market would have

993
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 9: been trel Bernard. Same thing with how the linebacker market

994
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 9: popped off. Really really good contract on trel Bernard obviously

995
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 9: since I wrote the piece, Christian Benford as well. Right,

996
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 9: they're extending everybody. The clear secure deal was unbelievable and

997
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 9: so to me, like the best editions, the guys that

998
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 9: added the most, it's always going to be your guys

999
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 9: who have a lot of money, and that's not what's

1000
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 9: interesting to meet a free agency. It's interesting to bea

1001
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 9: is who does the best, like bang for their buck

1002
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 9: sort of stuff. I thought the bills were up there

1003
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 9: in that.

1004
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the bank for the buck thing is when

1005
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 4: you get have all the money in New England. It

1006
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 4: always seems like there are teams and New England. You

1007
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 4: could maybe make a case for this that yeah, they

1008
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 4: spent a lot of money, but maybe overspent a little

1009
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 4: bit and the value is really gonna it's gonna be

1010
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 4: hard for maybe some of these players to elevate to

1011
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 4: the point where to earn that contract that they were

1012
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 4: given by the team. With all the money to spend,

1013
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 4: it's almost like teams are well, yeah, they spend more

1014
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 4: free when they have more money, and they're not really

1015
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 4: you know, buckling down to get the best deal they can.

1016
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 4: But they target players, they go out and they do

1017
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 4: what it takes to sign them. Is it possible for

1018
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 4: some of these guys to you know, earn the money

1019
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 4: they get on these huge contracts.

1020
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 10: Hey, you certainly can.

1021
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 9: I think the cost of being a bad team in

1022
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 9: the NFL is you have to go get talent from

1023
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 9: somewhere else, and it costs a premium to go get

1024
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 9: talent from somewhere else. The same way that right, if

1025
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 9: I want to go get a latte that somebody else

1026
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 9: made it's real nice, and it's Sacy's gonna cost a

1027
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 9: little bit more money versus if I just stayed at

1028
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 9: home with my espresso machine, throw a little milk in

1029
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 9: there and called it today.

1030
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 4: Right.

1031
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 9: So we love to be able to draft and develop, right,

1032
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 9: the wisdom of the Detroit Lions of Dan Campbell and

1033
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 9: Brad Holmes there was always Listen, this is gonna take

1034
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 9: a long time, but we're gonna draft everybody, and we're

1035
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 9: gonna homegrow our talent. And the proof of the pudding

1036
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 9: is an eaven for them. When you're the Patriots and

1037
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 9: you want to move a little bit faster, Mike Rayd,

1038
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 9: we want to turn this thing around quick. Robert Kraft

1039
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 9: wants to win some games here. He wants to get

1040
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 9: those all time wins, right, get those playoff appearances without Belichick,

1041
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 9: without Brady. Yeah, like you know, there's a little bit

1042
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 9: more urgency, and so according you have to go out

1043
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 9: there and spend.

1044
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 10: Milton Williams can be that player.

1045
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 9: Like twenty six million from Milton Williams is a lot,

1046
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 9: but also Milton was one of the best past rushing

1047
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 9: defense to tackles and football this year, Carlton Davis, it'd

1048
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 9: be a great corner two for them. He's been a

1049
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 9: corner one his entire career. He's still in his late

1050
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 9: late twenties, he's got a couple of years left of

1051
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 9: his prime. He's been a great player when he's been healthy.

1052
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 9: Obvious at Christian Gonzalez's going to dominate the wide receiver twos.

1053
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 9: So a lot of the guys can deliver on investment.

1054
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 9: It's just that, Yeah, when you're a bad team, you

1055
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 9: have to pay a lot of money to get guys

1056
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 9: into the building. You have a lot of money, and

1057
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 9: so you start to build the bedrock of the team

1058
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 9: that way, your long term success is dictated about how

1059
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 9: well you draft and develop.

1060
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: All Right, pivoting to the draft Ben We've got a

1061
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: team here in the Bills that is likely to go

1062
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: very heavy on the defensive side of the ball. You

1063
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: could argue they need to find at least a couple

1064
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: of starting caliber talents who will at least challenge to

1065
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: start somewhere in the first half of their rookie season,

1066
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: and Corner is kind of sticking out like a sore thumb.

1067
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: Even though they did lock up Benford for the foreseeable

1068
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: future with an extension, I know Isara A. Thomas, the

1069
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: Florida State Corner is a guy that you kind of

1070
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: did a profile on, and I know you like him

1071
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: a lot. The Bills love long corners historically he is

1072
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: unquestionably that. But he didn't burn up the Stopwatch at

1073
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: his pro day. So how do you kind of square

1074
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 2: that with him?

1075
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 4: Overall?

1076
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1077
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 9: So if I'm trying to live in a world where

1078
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 9: he chases guys around on man Cott Rich, I live

1079
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 9: in a world where I'm playing single high and he's

1080
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 9: got a vertical third to take care of.

1081
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 10: You're a little bit worried about the long speed, right,

1082
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 10: that's the concern.

1083
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 9: However, if I can live in a world like the

1084
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 9: Buffalo Bills want to live in where I play a

1085
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 9: lot more zone, I play a lot more too high,

1086
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 9: then I can protect the roof on top of Thomas, Right,

1087
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 9: I don't need him to necessarily run as far down

1088
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 9: the field with as many long speed receivers as he

1089
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 9: would in other systems.

1090
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 10: Now, I like the press and redirection ability.

1091
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 9: I like the play, the vision and the instincts. He's

1092
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 9: a real smart cookie. Thomas is known as a very

1093
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 9: hard worker for the seminals. That's the sort of guy

1094
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 9: who I think you're right, absolutely fits aaa. Sean McDermott defense.

1095
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 9: What he would ask that player to do not disimilar

1096
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 9: to the asks that risull Douglas had opposite at Christian Benford. Right,

1097
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 9: we talked about that length of making plays on the football.

1098
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 9: So Thomas to me is a guy that absolutely fits

1099
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 9: that system. I do think that end of round one

1100
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 9: is the earliest for his range. I much more expecting

1101
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 9: them to go round two. Benjamin Morrison had an ure Dame,

1102
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 9: same thing. I can see that being a round two

1103
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 9: guy who fits that system. It's a good year if

1104
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 9: you like long corners who aren't necessarily that fast. Yeah,

1105
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 9: you got a few different options in this class.

1106
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 4: And that's and that's really it. You get the traits

1107
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 4: and each team has their own parameters for who they draft.

1108
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 4: The Bills are also gonna probably get some big bodies

1109
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 4: up front. You've got an edge guy in Ashton Jellet

1110
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 4: and I'm not sure I spell his name right or

1111
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 4: saying his name right, Gloat from Louisville out. Yeah, he's

1112
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 4: some of these guys you've placed. And I love the

1113
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 4: stuff that you did. You went in and said, listen,

1114
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 4: here's some guys you may not know about, but are

1115
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 4: really have impressive film forget about anything else. They look

1116
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 4: good on tape, and Ashton is one of those guys.

1117
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, we we have a thing in college football.

1118
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 9: A lot of these college teams on to run all

1119
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 9: these odd fronts, and when you do that, you end

1120
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 9: up putting your edge rushers on the inside shoulder of

1121
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 9: the tap. On the outside shoulder, they can go pass rush,

1122
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 9: get around the corner, go out the quarterback. They play

1123
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 9: on the inside shoulder of the tackle. And it makes

1124
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 9: it hard to see the future for these guys because

1125
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 9: ain't gonna do that much in the NFL.

1126
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 4: We don't have that.

1127
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 9: That four I position in NFL defense is nearly the

1128
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 9: same way, so there's a lot plays a lot of

1129
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 9: that spot.

1130
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 10: You can't really rush the passer.

1131
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 9: You're kind of pushing the peak of the pocket, just

1132
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 9: not not let the quarterback escape. And then ever so

1133
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 9: often he gets to play on the outside and he's

1134
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 9: just he's super explosive off the ball, like he's like

1135
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 9: a little hand grenade in there, man, Like he flies off,

1136
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 9: he hits somebody, he breaks pocket integrity. He's not very long,

1137
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 9: so he's not great at getting the quarterback down. But

1138
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 9: for that first rusher, it's gonna make the quarterback move

1139
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 9: off his spot. And then big long Greg Risso can

1140
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 9: come clean that up, right, Big long Ajfiness can.

1141
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 10: Come clean that up.

1142
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 9: So that's a valuable role to have in the NFL.

1143
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 9: So you little bit have to see through the film

1144
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 9: onunch a lot. It's to you filter out those reps

1145
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 9: that are actually going to apply to his NFL future,

1146
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 9: and you see that, Yeah, this is a pass rusher

1147
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 9: on day two can be highly disruptive, even if it's

1148
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 9: not a counting stats sort of disruption.

1149
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's go from one edge guy to another,

1150
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 2: because this guy has the accolades, first team all big ten,

1151
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 2: twelve and a half sacks, you know, JT to him? Allow,

1152
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 2: is you know a guy that's probably gonna go somewhere

1153
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 2: on the first two days. How might he differ from

1154
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: the lot? I mean? Is he just bigger, longer, stronger, faster,

1155
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: all that stuff?

1156
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, six four two sixty with thirty four inch arms,

1157
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 9: that big long, strong. Absolutely I love to him, alow,

1158
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 9: I really do. This is a a coach's dream of

1159
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 9: a player. He's never wrong, he's never out of position.

1160
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 9: He plays high, high physical football. He plays high afurt football,

1161
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 9: controls the point of attack, good against the run, good

1162
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 9: pushing the pocket all three downs, and he knows where

1163
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 9: his bread is buttered too to a malaw is not

1164
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 9: trying to win off the first step, dip and rip,

1165
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 9: bend around the corner.

1166
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 10: That's not how he wins.

1167
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 9: So he doesn't waste his time right with kind of

1168
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 9: killing reps trying to do different stuff like that. He

1169
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 9: will just take the tackle and walk him back into

1170
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 9: the peak of the pocket. Again, not going to be

1171
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 9: a guy who collects a ton of sacks. This is

1172
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 9: not a good edge rusher class for ten plus sack guys,

1173
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 9: twelve plus fourteen plus sack guys. It's a very good

1174
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 9: class for your edge two edge three. Do the dirty work,

1175
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 9: playout all three downs, and play next to a featured rusher.

1176
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 9: And the hope is that greg risso is that for

1177
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 9: the Bills and so high character guy todd Up starting

1178
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 9: experience in the Big Ten. Like you said, a first

1179
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 9: team All Big Ten player, three down value, four down value. Honestly,

1180
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 9: he can be a good special teamer for you. He's

1181
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 9: just a highly, highly useful player and a guy that

1182
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 9: Sean McDermott is going to like because of the attention

1183
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 9: to detail, because of how how how coachable he is,

1184
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 9: how smart, he is, very likable guy.

1185
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 4: And he also did the same thing about his teammate,

1186
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 4: Tyleek Williams of Ohio State. The down inside guy, not

1187
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 4: a flashy guy, but a really a guy that I think,

1188
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 4: if correct me if I'm wrong, he's just to be

1189
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 4: a solid pro, a guy who's gonna hang around and

1190
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 4: gonna be on a lot of teams, be a contributor.

1191
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 4: Maybe not a guy who's gonna get you know, an

1192
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald ten sacks season out of defensive tackle, but

1193
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 4: a guy who who is very capable of playing a role,

1194
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 4: and maybe a guy later in the draft that team

1195
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 4: somebody's gonna take a flyer on.

1196
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, So Tyler he was I wouldn't be surprised toe

1197
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 9: him earlier because he was a four star crew. He's

1198
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 9: six three, three thirty like I said, at Ohio State.

1199
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 9: And and the reality with Williams is that he's an

1200
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 9: unbelievable run defender and has not translated a lot of

1201
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 9: that to the pass rush. And so if we lived

1202
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 9: in an NFL where stopping the run was the most

1203
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 9: important thing.

1204
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 10: He'd be like a top ten pick. Right, He's unbelievable.

1205
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 9: But against the run zone, two zone, away double teams,

1206
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 9: everything is block recognition, Deconstruction's unbelievable. It's just that that's

1207
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 9: not the most valuable thing. Now, if you're telling me,

1208
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 9: I've got at Oliver playing three tech and need a

1209
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 9: guy to play over the center and help protect eds

1210
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 9: a little bit undersized, take two blockers, let my fast

1211
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 9: linebackers run and chase, i'd tell you it's Tyleerk Williams

1212
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 9: right now. When I do mock drafts, if he's there

1213
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 9: for the Bills, I take him, and I don't blink

1214
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 9: like I in the first round.

1215
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 10: I will sprint to it. So I think he's that

1216
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 10: caliber run defender. The hope is that in the.

1217
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 9: NFL, a little bit of a different system, a little

1218
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 9: bit more coaching, he can develop more of a pass rush.

1219
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 9: I know that Alee McNeil, who's a third round pick

1220
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 9: NC State, went to the Lions. He's a very common

1221
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 9: comp for Tiler Williams because he was coming out as

1222
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 9: the squatty nose tack who'd defend the run, and all

1223
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 9: of a sudden, the Lions have themselves like a six sacks,

1224
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 9: seven sack guy as a pass rusher at that spot. Honestly,

1225
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 9: like I wrote down Dexter Williams a couple of times too,

1226
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 9: and that's the highest praise you can give a nose tackle,

1227
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 9: a defensive tackle in terms of this guy might be

1228
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 9: so so so strong that he ends up being an

1229
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 9: imactul pass rusher at the NFL level. So I'm higher

1230
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 9: than just Abandon, but I know on Tyler Williams, but

1231
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 9: I think he deserves it.

1232
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 10: He's a good player.

1233
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild. And look, I know he gets a

1234
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: favorable right up for high football IQ as well, like

1235
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 2: key recognition stuff, you know, instincts, all that thing. You

1236
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: don't always get that on an interior run defender, and

1237
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 2: apparently he has that as well. Just looking at the

1238
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: class overall in its entirety Ben, we hear this, and

1239
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 2: I just want you to kind of maybe elaborate on

1240
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: it a little bit. We've heard from the beginning not

1241
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: chock full of blue chip talent in this class, but

1242
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 2: a lot of people believe this is what scouts often

1243
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: referred to as a starter's draft, where you can scoop

1244
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 2: up a lot of starting caliber players that are good,

1245
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 2: maybe even very good, but not superstar potential. First of all,

1246
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: do you agree with that, and if so, how far

1247
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: do you feel that starter caliber goes in the class.

1248
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I'll right on. Then, you hate to

1249
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 9: have a top five, top six pick in this class.

1250
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 9: You love to have just about every big after right,

1251
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 9: it was a good to like pick, like ten, eleven, twelve.

1252
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 9: It's awesome because some guys are going to there's a

1253
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 9: very dense group of guys. I think like ten to

1254
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 9: twenty five, ten to thirty of those round one guys,

1255
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 9: those late round one, early two round guys.

1256
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 10: That group is nice and strong.

1257
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 9: You're going to hear people say a fewer first round

1258
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 9: grades this year, but when we start to get to that,

1259
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 9: we always have less than thirty two first round grades

1260
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 9: and we start to get to that twenties and thirties range,

1261
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 9: that range is just as strong this year as it

1262
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 9: is in every other year. In my opinion, some of

1263
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 9: those late round one, early to fringe guys, and then

1264
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 9: Day two is awesome. And again it's not a class

1265
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 9: for like you say, blue chip talent, peak talent. Like

1266
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 9: I talked about the edge rushers, it's not a class

1267
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 9: for ten plus twelve plus SAT guys wide receiver class.

1268
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 10: This is not a class for like.

1269
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 9: One hundred catches over a thousand yards every season. Five

1270
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 9: guys go in the first round. But you start looking

1271
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 9: at some of these names, some of these big guys

1272
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 9: who can play in the slot and some of these

1273
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 9: small guys who can stretch the field, and you're like, man,

1274
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 9: if you can't find useful players out of this.

1275
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 10: You ain't looking.

1276
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 9: You know you're gonna be able to fill your depth

1277
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 9: s oart with some of these guys. Warner extremely deep

1278
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 9: class that everybody always needs more corners. Just go get

1279
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 9: a guy he can play the slot, play the outside.

1280
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 9: Right about these longer players situational fit, situational role like

1281
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 9: it is a it is a This class is very talented.

1282
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 9: It just does not have the fireworks. It just does

1283
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 9: not have oh my gosh, you know, franchise changing players.

1284
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 9: To me, that's Travis Hunter and it as far as

1285
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 9: that those talents going, so yes, great, great great starters, draft,

1286
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 9: good scouting staffs.

1287
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 10: Are gonna eat in this class.

1288
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 4: One of the daily stories that's been you know, Bill's

1289
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 4: fans have been following over the last couple of weeks

1290
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 4: is that they've extended a lot of guys, but they

1291
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 4: have not extended James Cook now is now we hear

1292
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 4: the story of his houses for sale, and Brownie and

1293
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 4: I are I'm we're pounding that we're on the opposite

1294
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 4: sides of the fence here where you know, he says,

1295
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 4: give the guy. Would he basically give the guy he

1296
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 4: wants to extend him, do what you can to keep

1297
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 4: him because he's an elite talent, and he is. And

1298
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 4: then you've got guys like me who are like, listen,

1299
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 4: I watched the combine and there's like fifteen guys running

1300
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 4: four threes over there at the running back group. What

1301
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 4: kind of draft capital is there in this running back

1302
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 4: class that would give a team? And how far back

1303
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 4: in the draft can you go and still get a

1304
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 4: guy who's physically gifted enough even if he doesn't have

1305
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 4: the production.

1306
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 9: Yeah, you typically see that you can get into round two.

1307
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 9: You can get around like pick forty five, fifty to

1308
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 9: fifty five and still get those guys and afterwards it

1309
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 9: falls off, right.

1310
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 10: That was kind of your your JK.

1311
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 9: Dobbins range or Jonathan Taylor, he's forty one overall sort

1312
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 9: of arrange that you know, Nick Chub wasn't early two.

1313
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 9: Those are the guys that we talk about that first

1314
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 9: half of the second round. You can still usually get

1315
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 9: those players after that. I Cook was what like in

1316
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 9: the sixties, I want to.

1317
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 2: Say for you, Yeah, he was right around sixteens.

1318
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1319
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 10: See they got him a little bit cheap bra on

1320
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 10: the market.

1321
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 4: But generally that.

1322
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 9: First half of the second round is what you talk about.

1323
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 9: And the book on Cook coming out was obviously listen,

1324
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 9: very talented player, catch passes, but not necessarily the build.

1325
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 9: You want to be a bellcow back. Now low and behold,

1326
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 9: James buck developed in a very nice bellcout back for you.

1327
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 9: And so I would say, like round two is where

1328
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 9: you want to go for those guys. To me, four

1329
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 9: in the class, that's Ashton Genty who you ain't getting,

1330
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 9: Amarion Hampton unc who to me is unbelievably talent. It's

1331
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 9: gonna be a very good player for somebody for a

1332
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 9: long long time. I expect him to go round one

1333
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 9: and then quench Quin. Shawn Judkins and Travon Henderson, the

1334
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 9: two kids out of Ohio State. Those are the four

1335
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 9: that I would say I can see being bellcow backs

1336
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 9: the NFL level. Caleb Johnson out of Iowa, I expect

1337
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 9: to go in that late two range.

1338
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 10: It's close.

1339
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 9: It's just he's all running right and not a lot

1340
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 9: of pass protection, not a lot of pass catching.

1341
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 10: Kind of need that to be a modern back in

1342
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 10: the NFL.

1343
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 9: And so that it's like four and a half guys

1344
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 9: in this class, I think the Bills would be wise

1345
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 9: to look on and round three and look in early

1346
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 9: round four and see, okay, you can we continue to

1347
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 9: add players to this room, and okay, it's give it

1348
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 9: another shot. You have to remember you have Ti Johnson.

1349
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 9: You want to get touches to great young player. You

1350
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 9: have Ray Davis, you want to get touches to interesting

1351
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 9: young player. And James Couk is gonna de mand touches

1352
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 9: whether he's on an extension or on the current contract

1353
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 9: next year. So it's not a lot of room left

1354
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 9: to feed another guy. So I'll be curious to see

1355
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 9: how they handle the room because that's a contructor right now.

1356
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 10: It's great if you add to it.

1357
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 9: To me, that indicates, yeah, they see a future without

1358
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 9: James Cook.

1359
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: Okay, dove tailing off my question, I asked you about

1360
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 2: this being a starter draft. The Bills only have three

1361
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: of their ten picks on Day one and Day two

1362
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: two in the second round one in the first they

1363
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 2: have two two or two four's, three fives, and two six's.

1364
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 2: With the perceived drop off in talent in totality, how

1365
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: much would it behoove the Bills to package some of

1366
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: that Day three draft capital and get back into round

1367
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 2: three to get another player on Day two?

1368
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 10: Brandon Bean moving up in the drafts. I couldn't imagine it.

1369
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 10: Would you ever do that? That'd be crazy? Yeah, No,

1370
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 10: this is this is the right way to load the

1371
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 10: chamber if you're Buffalo.

1372
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 9: Because if you're the Bills, you're saying, Okay, you know

1373
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 9: it is nice to get young developmental players and round

1374
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 9: four guys and you know, be able to cycle through

1375
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 9: and we lose some dudes in free agency, Like that's

1376
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 9: always a good team building approach. Sure, But right now,

1377
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 9: when we are trying to get over that god dang

1378
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 9: hump at the AFC Championship Game, we're trying to get

1379
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 9: ourselves to one of these these super bowls we've.

1380
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:53,959
Speaker 10: Heard so much about.

1381
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, I want to add impactful players. I want to

1382
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 9: add players in the top one hundred packs. I don't

1383
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 9: want to worry too much about my death spot, especially

1384
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 9: with how well they've been good in UDFA over the

1385
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 9: last few years. They've done I shob developing the young

1386
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 9: players of the last several years, and so to me, yeah,

1387
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 9: I would be using that fifth round, sixth round capital

1388
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 9: and trying to move up and go get guys that

1389
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 9: I target.

1390
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 10: You gotta hit on those picks.

1391
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 9: That was kind of a challenge there late twenty tens

1392
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 9: in the early twenty twenties. But yeah, I'd be wanting

1393
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 9: to move up.

1394
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 4: That's that's been the big question we've had that debate

1395
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 4: on this show. Do you cast a wide nett, take

1396
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 4: all ten picks, maybe try and get even an eleventh

1397
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 4: pick and get that many guys, or do you move

1398
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 4: up and only take seven guys instead of the ten,

1399
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 4: or six guys instead of the ten and get higher

1400
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 4: picks and roll the dice that those guys are the

1401
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 4: right guys.

1402
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, I lean towards.

1403
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 9: The fewer guys and the rider guys just for how

1404
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 9: the bills are constructed right now. So if you go

1405
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 9: and you look at the depth chart right like I

1406
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 9: just pulled it, up really quick linebacker. They have Milano, Treelbernard,

1407
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 9: Dorian Williams, Specter, Joe Andrees who was great last year,

1408
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 9: and then at a final over for shield right the

1409
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 9: kid last year. You can't I don't know how many

1410
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 9: if you draft the guy, you're gonna cut one of

1411
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 9: these guys, right, you know, safety is the same thing.

1412
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 10: You're that Derek Forrest.

1413
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 9: You probably have four guys you feel comfortable going with

1414
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 9: the Bills have good depth in a lot of spots.

1415
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 9: And so if you end up making ten to eleven

1416
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 9: picks and they end up coming three or four of

1417
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 9: those guys just because you're so deep already on the

1418
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 9: fifty three man, then then should not those picks have

1419
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 9: been better used to move up eight spots, move up

1420
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 9: ten spots, secure a player that maybe you were going

1421
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 9: to miss out on if you waited.

1422
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 10: And so to me, given how deep the.

1423
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 9: Current roster is, because again they've been a really nice

1424
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 9: job developing. The number one thing this staff does well,

1425
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 9: in my opinion, is developed. Since they've done such a

1426
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 9: good job of that, I would like to use the

1427
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 9: capitol to move up and go secure guys that I'm

1428
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 9: positive are going to be impactful players for me, starters

1429
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 9: or rotational guys in the first year they play.

1430
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben, good conversation as always. We appreciate the time.

1431
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 2: We'll catch up with you down the line here in

1432
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 2: the offseason. Enjoy the draft.

1433
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 10: Thanks Ben, I appreciate you, fellas. I'll take care all right.

1434
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: That's ESPN. National NFL analysts been sol like joining us

1435
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 2: had some interesting breakdowns of some of the names that

1436
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,919
Speaker 2: have been associated with the Bills at times.

1437
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 4: Is Harry A.

1438
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 2: Thomas, the corner from Florida State. I know Tyler Williams

1439
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 2: because of the Bills need a defensive tackle. You know,

1440
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 2: they're long in the two at the one technique. You

1441
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 2: know Da Kwon Jones. We love him, but he's thirty

1442
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: four years old. Like somebody's gonna need to be rotating

1443
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 2: in there like on a regular basis.

1444
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,439
Speaker 4: And it's nice. It's always comforting to hear these guys

1445
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 4: talk about the guys that not that you're gonna take

1446
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 4: a number thirty or that he's gonna drop to number thirty,

1447
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 4: but guys are gonna be available. When you pick in

1448
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 4: the second round, you're gonna get some players that are

1449
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 4: really talented. You know, you're gonna get Spencer Brown's and

1450
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 4: James Cooks and you know you're gonna get those guys. Yeah,

1451
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 4: it's fun to think. That's the exciting part about this

1452
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 4: when you can find somebody. And that's why some of

1453
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 4: these scouts are nut jobs, because that's what gives them

1454
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 4: their their mojo, right. They want to be able to

1455
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 4: find that guy that nobody else sees.

1456
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 2: Yes, But at the same time, with this being that

1457
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 2: quote unquote starter's draft, more of them are in rounds

1458
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 2: one through three. You don't have a third round pick.

1459
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 2: I'm all for using those fives and sixes and maybe

1460
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 2: even one of your fours to get back up into

1461
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 2: the third get another day two election, so you have

1462
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 2: four total players through the first two days, and then

1463
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 2: you know, do what you usually do, hit it out

1464
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: of the park in the middle rounds. You know, use

1465
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 2: one of those fours, use one of those fives, and

1466
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: maybe find another Khalil Shakir caliber of player, or a

1467
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 2: Matt Mulano or a Taron Johnson players that have been

1468
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 2: drafted by this team in rounds four and five. Don't

1469
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 2: don't empty the cupboard with third round draft capital, but

1470
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 2: use some of the seven picks you have there to

1471
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 2: get back into round three and get a player that

1472
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 2: can help you right.

1473
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 4: Now, right And that's you know, that's the challenge you

1474
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 4: gotta And we talk about this when we do when

1475
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 4: we do the pod bills by the numbers, we talked

1476
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 4: about what it would take. And you know, if you

1477
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,560
Speaker 4: do trade out of the first round, which you know,

1478
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 4: who knows what they're going to do here, They're not

1479
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 4: going to pick thirtieth. But if they trade up, it's

1480
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 4: one thing. If they trade back, can they get into

1481
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 4: the second round? If they package a player, package some

1482
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 4: picks and get back into the second round, get four

1483
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 4: picks in the first two rounds instead of just three,

1484
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 4: or get another way to do yeah, or get a

1485
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 4: third rounder, so whatever, move up and like you said,

1486
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 4: get five picks to four picks, or five picks in

1487
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 4: the first three rounds instead of just three. Uh, and

1488
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 4: throw you know, the fifth round, sixth rounders to the wind.

1489
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 4: You may come out of this with a handful of

1490
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 4: guys that you're gonna love and respect for a lot

1491
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 4: of years, you know what I mean.

1492
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones, because we've been talking

1493
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 2: with you today about ranking the top three priorities the

1494
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: bills must address in the draft. Do you let us

1495
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 2: know what those are? At eight O three zero five

1496
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 2: fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty got

1497
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 2: some open lines for you there, and we go next

1498
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 2: to Mark in Jersey City. What do you got for us? Mark?

1499
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, gentlemen. Thanks taking my call. I'm definitely I've

1500
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 3: been clear. I'm with Steve on the Cook situation. It's

1501
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 3: kind of like boxing. There's a million five nine, five,

1502
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 3: ten to one hundred and nothing guys in a gym,

1503
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 3: but the second guy that's like six to two d

1504
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 3: and twenty plus, you're not going to see it trainer

1505
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 3: for months because they're all going to gravitate towards that

1506
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 3: guy and he could be terrible. But heavyweights that's where

1507
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 3: the money's at. That's why they all move up and

1508
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 3: weigh as they get older. And Cook is one hundred

1509
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 3: and ninety pounds. Go look at his brother after age

1510
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 3: twenty seven. The guy was done. I'm not saying he

1511
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 3: has same injuries, but he outweight Cooked by twenty pounds.

1512
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 3: Like I'm I can't pay a guy who's the team

1513
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 3: is shown they don't trust him on third down that's

1514
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 3: why he was brought there. He still has that occasional

1515
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 3: weird drop. He ate a lot, had a lot of

1516
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 3: nice long runs, was really good inside the ten, but

1517
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 3: he's still not Derek Henry in Saquon. And it looked

1518
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 3: what it took for them to have the years that

1519
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 3: they had, you know, offensive lines, quarterbacks who could run.

1520
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 3: It took like such a a formula for that to work.

1521
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 3: And it's come on, you don't think Cook is helped

1522
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 3: by teams being frozen by Josh Allen. It's so obvious.

1523
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 3: So that's It's not as simple as just paying a

1524
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 3: running back. But I just think they have to move

1525
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 3: on from him. They've already proven that they don't want

1526
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 3: to scruntled players in their building. I mean, you guys

1527
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 3: just touched on the Hendricks at the situation. I mean

1528
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 3: they moved on from I'm not saying took his dicks,

1529
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 3: but they don't. They're very sacd The locker room is

1530
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 3: sacred to them, and I don't think they want to

1531
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 3: have a situation. Do right by the player, do right

1532
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 3: by the rest of the team. Also, the defensive line,

1533
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 3: they look like they're going with a different body type there.

1534
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 3: They look like they're going a little heavier. You look

1535
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 3: at Hoyt, you look at Bosa, they look like they're

1536
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 3: going with a bigger type of guy. They bring in

1537
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 3: the coach Nielsen, you know those bigger edges that they

1538
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 3: had in Saint the Saints, Jones, Jordan, Jordan, Cameron Jordan,

1539
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 3: and he coached Hendrickson. So thanks for taking my call.

1540
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 2: Guys, Yeah, that's sure thing. The only thing I'll disagree

1541
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 2: with you and Steve On is comparing him to Dalvin Cook.

1542
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 2: I mean, Dalvin Cook had over seven hundred touches in college.

1543
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: His brother had less than three hundred. In my estimation,

1544
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 2: there's more miles on James Cook's tires than there ever

1545
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 2: were on Dalvin Cooks. And the number is two thousand.

1546
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 2: When running backs get to two thousand career touches between

1547
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 2: college and the pros, that's when the drop off happens

1548
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 2: in about ninety percent of the cases. And Cooks have

1549
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 2: further ways off than that, and even now is because

1550
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 2: he doesn't log two hundred and fifty carries a season

1551
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: like a Saquon Barkley or a Derek Henry too. To

1552
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 2: have Ty Johnson and you have and you have Ray here, so,

1553
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 2: and I believe that's where the disconnect is. Cook looks

1554
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 2: at his sixteen touchdown season and probably says, I should

1555
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 2: get paid fifteen million a year or whatever the number is,

1556
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 2: and the bill say, well, you're not a bell cow.

1557
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 2: You had one hundred and you had just over two

1558
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 2: hundred carries barely and you had what thirty receptions or something.

1559
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: So that's not a bell cow as traditionally constituted. And

1560
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: so I think that's where the disconnect is. And if

1561
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 2: if Cook wants to be more than that, he's not

1562
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 2: gonna get more carries here.

1563
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 4: No, he's only had five hundred career carries in the league,

1564
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 4: five hundred and thirty three, right, so.

1565
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 2: You're talking about eight hundred total. He's still got twelve

1566
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 2: hundred more before he gets to the two thousand.

1567
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 4: That's a good point. That's a good point. He's not

1568
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 4: worn out at all. And in fact, you I would

1569
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 4: have every reason to believe that if he if whatever

1570
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 4: has to happen for this to happen, if he comes in,

1571
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 4: shows up for everything, plays as hard as he can,

1572
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 4: has as good a year as he possibly can, hoping

1573
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 4: he hit the free agency market, he'll have his best year.

1574
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 2: Yet and there might be somebody out there in free

1575
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 2: agency that is willing to let him go two hundred

1576
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 2: and fifty three hundred carries again, sure, I don't know

1577
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 2: if he's gonna hold up, And I think that's part

1578
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 2: of the reason why the Bills utilize him the way

1579
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 2: that they do to keep him fresh. So he is

1580
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 2: a difference maker. I mean, he was one of the

1581
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 2: best players on the field in the AFC title Game.

1582
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 2: I mean that stretch for the touchdown was unbelievable. Yeah,

1583
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 2: And I think part of the reason and he's still

1584
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 2: making people miss and out running people to the pylon

1585
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 2: is because he only has two hundred carries a season,

1586
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 2: not three.

1587
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 4: Hundred, right, is you can expect him to have a

1588
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,719
Speaker 4: little bit of a longer career because of the lack

1589
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:16,719
Speaker 4: of touches he gets. He's had college last in twenty

1590
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 4: twenty three, had two thirty seven carries and two hundred

1591
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 4: and seven carries in twenty twenty four, and then he

1592
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 4: also had over the course of his career, he's had seventyes,

1593
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 4: like eighty seven or ninety seven receptions ninety seven receptions,

1594
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 4: So he doesn't touch the ball that much. For the Bills,

1595
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 4: but he's dynamic. I mean, the guys he's a home run.

1596
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 2: But I think that's why there's a disconnect between the

1597
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 2: two camps on what the value is. Right, they won him,

1598
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 2: you know, they're like, well, he's making the Pro Bowl.

1599
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 2: He's tied for the league lead.

1600
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 4: They touchdown he made the Pro Bowl when some guys

1601
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 4: backed out.

1602
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know he tied for the league lead

1603
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 2: in rushing touchdowns. He should get pay like a top

1604
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 2: five back. And the Bills are like, but hold on

1605
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 2: a second. Yeah, eleven of his sixteen touchdowns from eight

1606
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 2: yards are closer. And he's not carrying it three hundred

1607
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 2: times a season.

1608
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, he barely made a thousand yards this show.

1609
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 2: I think that's where the disconnect is. They see him

1610
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 2: as a lead player in their committee backfield. He sees

1611
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,799
Speaker 2: himself as a bell cow back, and there's different values

1612
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 2: for those two.

1613
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 4: We're not privy to the conversations, but I think those

1614
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 4: conversations are vitally important as to how you're going to

1615
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 4: evaluate it. What does Joe Brady want to do with

1616
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 4: a running back? What does is James Cook the kind

1617
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 4: of guy that changes an offensive coordinator's mind about what

1618
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 4: he's going to do in a certain situation James Cook's

1619
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 4: on the field and is all right, if James out there,

1620
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 4: we're going to do this. If he's not out there,

1621
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 4: we got to do something else. That's you know, do

1622
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 4: you want to give James Cook the ball something other

1623
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 4: than twenty times a game or twenty five times a

1624
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 4: game at most. Yeah, that's the real question. Well, it

1625
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 4: was not even that. It's like fifteen times a game,

1626
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 4: ten times a game.

1627
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you got an All world quarterback who you'd

1628
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 2: like to have it in his hands more often than not.

1629
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you don't want And that's the thing this year,

1630
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 4: this year James Cook, I mean those sixteen touchdowns he

1631
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,600
Speaker 4: ran for, some of those would have been Josh's.

1632
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 2: In he's not taking. Yeah, he was also under four

1633
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 2: thousand yards passing, right, But that because you ran the

1634
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: ball as much.

1635
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,799
Speaker 4: As he's right, But he's also MVP in that offense.

1636
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 2: There's a lot on this and Cooks your only other

1637
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 2: alpha on the right side of the ball right now,

1638
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 2: And that's my biggest issue, Like, all right, I mean,

1639
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 2: you don't want him, you don't want him. You better

1640
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 2: find another alpha to help Josh out.

1641
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, and that's that's about the conversation. What

1642
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 4: do they really think about Keon? What do they really

1643
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 4: think about Kincaid? What do they really think about Josh Palmer?

1644
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 4: I mean, are any of these guys gonna be and

1645
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 4: Khalil Shakir? I mean, who's gonna Are you gonna spread

1646
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 4: it to them a little bit more? If James Cook

1647
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 4: is out of the equation, do they Are you ready

1648
01:17:56,840 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 4: to tell yourself before the season starts that yes, don't.

1649
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 4: Kinkaid is gonna get fifty more targets this year. Okay,

1650
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 4: if you're willing to say that, I'll listen, But you

1651
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,719
Speaker 4: gotta be willing to do that. The ball's gotta go somewhere.

1652
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 4: And Cook leaves a hole in those touts in the

1653
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 4: in the offense.

1654
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here more of your phone calls

1655
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 2: when we come back, Dave and Buffalo is gonna lead

1656
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 2: us off as we are asking you to rank the

1657
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 2: top three priorities the Bills must address in the draft

1658
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 2: your phone calls next year on One Bill's Live. Stay

1659
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: with us all right back here on One Bill's Live.

1660
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 2: Just to elaborate on one of the other points our

1661
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 2: last calling, Mark in Jersey City made. Yeah, he's right.

1662
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: Bills have been looking for bigger edge players to shore

1663
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 2: up the run front more. I think they started that

1664
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 2: process last year at this time they signed k See

1665
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 2: two Hill Dwan Smooten free agency. Two bigger, girthier defensive ends.

1666
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 2: Bosa a bigger edge. So yeah, not surprising to see that,

1667
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 2: and I would expect that to continue, not only on

1668
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 2: the edges, but on the defensive interior as well. In

1669
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 2: the good news this season where this draft season, I

1670
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 2: should say there are bigger, girthier defensive tackles. I can't

1671
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 2: further number. I can't remember this many one technique defensive

1672
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 2: tackles that are over three twenty in quite some time.

1673
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 2: And there's like seven to eight to ten of them

1674
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 2: that are worth their salt in terms of at least

1675
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 2: plugging up the run front.

1676
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 4: Right, there's a there's a lot of big dudes in

1677
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 4: this draft. I mean you just go down the list

1678
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 4: and just read the measurables, you know, right.

1679
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,839
Speaker 2: The Oregon knows, Yes, there's that whole defensive line for Oregon.

1680
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 2: I mean him, Harmon and Jordan Birch, give me them all.

1681
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,799
Speaker 4: You know, A guy like kid from Market Landon Jackson,

1682
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 4: the hid from Arkansas. He's six six five six pass

1683
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 4: power right, six five three twenty Alfred Collins from Texas.

1684
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 4: I mean, they just go down the list. There's tons of.

1685
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 2: Big dudes who are a lot of sizes.

1686
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I always say, and I get it too. There

1687
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 4: are big guys in there, are big guys who can

1688
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 4: really play. There are big guys who are really athletes.

1689
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 4: Big guys just big guys are different. But there You're

1690
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 4: gonna get some guys in this draft who have some

1691
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 4: chops and who are gonna look the part. And it's

1692
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 4: always fun for Brownie and I to sit here and

1693
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 4: think because we've seen a lot of guys walk in

1694
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 4: this door and go out to training camp on that

1695
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 4: day one or these pre the OTAs after the draft

1696
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 4: and all that. You walk out here and you see

1697
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 4: these guys and you start getting glimpses of like, oh, man,

1698
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 4: who's this kid milone out of Boston College?

1699
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 3: Who is that?

1700
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 2: You know?

1701
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 4: Who? Why Why is that guy? Who's that guy right there?

1702
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 4: Why is he in there? Well, that's Christian Benford. Where'd

1703
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 4: we get hit? He's the seventh round, right? You know,

1704
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 4: you start seeing these guys elevate and it's like it's

1705
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 4: pretty fun because they this coaching staff good at.

1706
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 2: It and and word is out now because we've said

1707
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 2: it for years. But you even heard Ben Solack, our

1708
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 2: guest earlier in the hour, say one of the best

1709
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,560
Speaker 2: things that the Bills do is develop their players and

1710
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 2: that goes to the coaching staff. So it's a job

1711
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 2: here year over here.

1712
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,560
Speaker 4: And you can say it's the coaching staff, and it is.

1713
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 4: They do play a big role in it, but it's

1714
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,600
Speaker 4: the culture too. We had Christian Benford in here just

1715
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 4: yesterday and he's like he's he goes, yeah, they like

1716
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 4: I can be me, you know, be who you are,

1717
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Speaker 4: be the best to you, and they help you be

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01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 4: the best you. And they don't just say it. They

1719
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 4: take steps towards help finding out what the best you

1720
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 4: is going to look like and then working towards it.

1721
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 4: That's hard to do, and a lot of teams just

1722
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 4: don't take the time or put the effort in or

1723
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 4: under you know, or or even or not the kind

1724
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 4: of effort that this place puts into it. You can

1725
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 4: go all the way back through mcdermom tenure here, they

1726
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 4: dropped dozens and dozens of millions of dollars into this

1727
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 4: glass weight room over here, and everyody thinks, Wow, it's

1728
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 4: a recruiting tool. Eh, not so much, because with and

1729
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 4: I'll say that, I said it when they put it

1730
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 4: in the thing that makes that different and everybody looks

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01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 4: at it. People are taking pictures on game day looking

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01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 4: at the weight room and all that the thing that

1733
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 4: makes it different. Of the people inside. They've got people

1734
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 4: committed towards finding out what each of these guys has

1735
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 4: to have happened to make them tick. They find out

1736
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 4: what makes them tick and they cultivate it. And when

1737
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 4: you get a kid who comes in as a college

1738
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 4: kid and he's been trying to fit in and all

1739
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 4: of a sudden he gets into a place like this

1740
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 4: where he can flourish and they give him the fuel

1741
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 4: it takes to burn. Dude, you get a ton of

1742
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 4: guys that are like, wow, where did they find this guy?

1743
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 4: That's the difference. It's it's Sean McDermott and his vision

1744
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 4: for that, and the people that they've hired in this

1745
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 4: building putte to put it into practice and light the

1746
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,799
Speaker 4: fire into these had the guys light the fire themselves.

1747
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 4: That's the key.

1748
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and to Dave in

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01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 2: Buffalo X, what's up.

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01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 11: Dave, Thanks for taking my call, and my thoughts about

1751
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 11: it are exactly in line with the things you were

1752
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 11: just saying, because looking at this draft reminds me of

1753
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 11: actually two thousand and six, where we had a clear

1754
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 11: needed defensive tackle. We picked a guy named John McCargo

1755
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 11: as our first round choice, and I think the consistence

1756
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 11: was it was a good pick, but a cargo ended

1757
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 11: up being a journeyman or a bus. And there's this

1758
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 11: guy named Kyle Williams who we picked in the fifth

1759
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 11: round who became really the archetype for what a Buffalo

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01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 11: bill player is. And the same thing with the pick

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01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 11: of Elam and the pick of Benford, you know, I

1762
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 11: you know, just looking at it from way outside, could

1763
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 11: see Elam look like a person that'd be good to pick,

1764
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 11: but Ben for is the guy who ends up getting

1765
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 11: a big extension. And the draft overall, I mean, I

1766
01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 11: think the best the grace of all times. Tom Brady

1767
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 11: was a sixth round pick. Second probably for a grace

1768
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 11: of all time is Joe Montana. He's a third round pick.

1769
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 11: The draft districts it. There's totally a crap shoot. So

1770
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 11: you know, I just don't look at it in terms

1771
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 11: of what roster pies to do at the bill. Get

1772
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:15,839
Speaker 11: the best player available all the time.

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01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 4: Right, And I agree with that. It's a good call,

1774
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 4: and it does illustrate how wrong you can be and

1775
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 4: how right you can be. Sometimes when you get right,

1776
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 4: like with Christian Benner, you got to feel like, Wow,

1777
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 4: it's dumb luck. But it's also the fact it's just

1778
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 4: like it's like picking horse races. There's so many things

1779
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 4: you don't know about, and you get a when you're

1780
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 4: dealing with human beings despite your best effort to know everything. Yeah,

1781
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 4: when you're dealing with human beings, I mean, goodness, gracious.

1782
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 4: The guy gets in this building and he becomes Christian Benford.

1783
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 4: He goes to another building and he's nothing. He's like

1784
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 4: a sixth round pick who's on the practice squad and

1785
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 4: then out of the league two years later. The environment

1786
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 4: you give these guys to thrive in is all the difference.

1787
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 4: And you get a guy with the right tools and

1788
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,879
Speaker 4: you give him what it takes to make him succeed mentally,

1789
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 4: and you start finding guys like this. It you're right,

1790
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 4: it is a crapshoot. But you know, you still get

1791
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 4: to roll the dice and sometimes it comes up lucky.

1792
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 4: That's all there's too. The more rolls of the dice

1793
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 4: you get, the better off you are sometimes.

1794
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick look at some of the comments

1795
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

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01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 2: the official equivalent moving company of the Buffalo Bills. As

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01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 2: we're asking you about what you believe the top three

1798
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 2: priorities the Bills must come out of the draft with,

1799
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 2: and Jack says nose, tackle, defensive end, corner, honorable mention,

1800
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 2: wide receiver. I know most points last year, blah blah.

1801
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 2: This is the new year, and past success is not

1802
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 2: a guarantee of future results. Allen needs outside weapons, but

1803
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 2: past weaknesses i e. The defensive line, if not improved,

1804
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 2: are a guarantee of continued issues. So fix the nose

1805
01:25:56,000 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 2: and the pass rush. That's hard to argue with. Let's

1806
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 2: go Buffalo, says corner, defensive tackle, double dip at both

1807
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 2: of those positions. Duh, So it's pretty easy for Let's

1808
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 2: Go Buffalo to see.

1809
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 4: Well, he's right. You and I are chewing this. We're like,

1810
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 4: you know, oh we are like bulldogs with meat bones.

1811
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:24,600
Speaker 4: Right now we're doing we're chewing this defensive side of

1812
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 4: the ball up to till nothing.

1813
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 2: It's as readily apparent as a draft has been in

1814
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 2: a while for the Bills, like it.

1815
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 4: Still may change. What are we gonna do a couple

1816
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 4: of days. If a couple of days before the draft,

1817
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 4: Rasul Douglass comes back on board, well.

1818
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it reduces the urgency. I think he's more likely

1819
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 2: to be a post draft signing. I think they're going

1820
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 2: to see what they could scoop up at the position first,

1821
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 2: and then if they're not happy with it, then they'll

1822
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 2: probably get him on the phone. I think that is

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01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 2: the most likely outcome. I think he's more of a

1824
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 2: post draft signing than a pre draft because even heard

1825
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 2: Bean say it himself, we're gonna focus on the draft

1826
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 2: right now, not worried about contracts and other stuff. And

1827
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 2: that's probably the way they're gonna do it. They're gonna

1828
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 2: focus on the draft, see what they could scoop up there,

1829
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 2: and if they feel they're short at any position, well

1830
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: then they'll get on the phone. And what they did

1831
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, Leonard Floyd poon Afford, you

1832
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 2: know May and June signings. Yeah, that's what's probably gonna happen.

1833
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here. When we come back. We'll

1834
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 2: close it up with some final thoughts on the tweet sheet,

1835
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 2: as we are asking you to rank the top three

1836
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 2: priorities the Bills must address in the draft. Some final

1837
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 2: thoughts next year on One Bill's Live. Stay with us,

1838
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 2: all right, some final thoughts here on the tweet sheet,

1839
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 2: as we were asking you for the top three priorities

1840
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: you feel the Bills must address in this year's draft.

1841
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 2: Jake on the tweet sheet says, seems pretty easy and obvious.

1842
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 2: Cornerback future starter opposite Benford, defensive end, pass rusher of

1843
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 2: the future opposite Russo, defensive tackle, run stuffing big man.

1844
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 2: They don't have any of those on the roster. Tae

1845
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 2: Kwon Jones might disagree, but the point is well taken.

1846
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 2: Connor on the tweets sheet says, one the defensive back.

1847
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 2: I am lumping corner and safety into the same group here. Yeah,

1848
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 2: there is a need a corner, but if Starks or

1849
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 2: even Warrior there at thirty, you have to take them.

1850
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 2: Two defensive line need an impact player and an affordable contract.

1851
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 2: Three linebacker Milano on the last year of his deal,

1852
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 2: and they need depth. I think Dorian Williams is the

1853
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 2: air apparent there in the starting lineup. But I'll listen

1854
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 2: to the depth conversation there.

1855
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 4: You don't need to do that at thirty No, so yeah,

1856
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 4: I do that on day three.

1857
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:45,719
Speaker 2: I'll listen exactly.

1858
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 4: Get a guy with some tools on day three, let

1859
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 4: him learn the system and get better, and then you

1860
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 4: know when you need him. Plug him in next year,

1861
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:53,600
Speaker 4: two years from now.

1862
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 2: Greg says corner, defensive end, defensive tackle need a CB

1863
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 2: two early. Time to groom a young defensive end to

1864
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 2: start by next year. Time to add a three hundred

1865
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 2: and thirty five pound nose tackle into the rotation, speed,

1866
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 2: power and size. Michael says defensive tackle, corner safety, or

1867
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:15,679
Speaker 2: wide receiver, and SG three says cornerback needs someone opposite Benford.

1868
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 2: Wide receiver need someone to stretch the field. Defensive tackle

1869
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:20,719
Speaker 2: could use another one if you ask.

1870
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 4: Me, everybody's kind of on.

1871
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 2: I'm we had the thing a little wide receiver sprinkled in.

1872
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 4: Do you think it's coverage or rush that we had

1873
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 4: that last yesterday? And everybody was like, they're more on

1874
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 4: coverage side.

1875
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, it's interesting station. Well they know they need

1876
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 2: to plug a starter in their opposite Benford. That's it

1877
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 2: for us today. We'll be here tomorrow. Got some topping

1878
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 2: off ceremony coverage on the new stadium.

1879
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 4: We'll see it. Won