1 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Hello, Hello, Hello, have 3 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: we got a special treat for you here on Tuesday, 4 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: May the fifth, it is Texas Giving Day hashtag Giving 5 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: Tuesday Now campaign and they are bringing you a very 6 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: special podcast with myself. I'm Shannon Gross, co host of 7 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: Hanging with the Boys with my good buddy that's on 8 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: that show with me. Nate Newton is also joining us today. 9 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: We have a very special guest that shares a building 10 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: with us at the Star. He's right across the atrium, 11 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: Darren Woodson. How you doing, Darren? I'm doing good man. 12 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: Hey listen, I've been waiting to talk to Nate. They 13 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 1: won't talk to me when he's in the building, so 14 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: I gotta I got damn there, gotta tackle him. So 15 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: it's a kind of conversation with a big Nate. You 16 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You making Cohen cash. Brother. I'm 17 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: down there trying to take money from mister Jones. And 18 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: if you want to join that crew hustling and taking 19 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: your money and strong arming you, I'll be there five 20 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: days a week when his day, well, we're celebrating today 21 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: we're celebrating North Texas Giving Tuesday. UM Giving is open 22 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: from now until midnight. We're gonna give you the web 23 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: address a little bit later on in the show where 24 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: you can go check it out and see all the 25 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: good things that we're doing here or Texas. But we 26 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit actually a lot of football, 27 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: a lot of Darren Woodson, a lot of maybe a 28 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: little bit of the good old days when you and 29 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: Nate used to play. Tell us right now, Darren, what's 30 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: what's going on now that we're we're kind of in quarantine. 31 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: You got a little podcast that you started up? Or 32 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: are you doing doing that? Yeah? Going on? Well, you know, 33 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: first of all, you know, I definitely want to start 34 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: start off with the Dallas Cowboys in the United Way. Uh. 35 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: And as far as North Texas Giving Day, Uh, this 36 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: is a this is a great day for port Giving. 37 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: And you know when you're talking about the Dallas Cowboys 38 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: specifically when you talk about the Jones family, Charlotte Jones 39 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: in particular, as far as reaching back out into the community, 40 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: teaming up with you with the United Way, who I've 41 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: been a part of for over twenty some years now, 42 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: who have done a great job. This is an effort 43 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: right now to rate help raise as much money and 44 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: that they are needed funds uh, to those you know, 45 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: to to those foundations such as the Salvation Army, North 46 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: Texas Food Bank, so many that are in need right now, 47 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: especially in this time of COVID to just for us 48 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: to give back to them right now. And that's the 49 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: reason why I'm on today, And that's to give us 50 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: a better understanding of of today at North Texas Giving 51 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: Day and if you do, if you definitely want to 52 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: reach out and learn more, go to North Texas Getting 53 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: Day dot org. That's the reason why today, that's why 54 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: we're on this call today. But you know, my heart 55 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: is out there for those that are in need. Wow, 56 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Yeah, back, So what is what is 57 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: Woody up to these days? What are you doing now? 58 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: How are you staying busy? Are you you look like 59 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: you're staying fit? Are you? Are you you're getting some 60 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: exercise in? What's the day in the life of Woody 61 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: right now? Yeah? Yeah? My wife? Yeah, you know, I 62 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: don't know if this is a PG show right now? Um, 63 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: If this is a PG show, what Nate's on the show? 64 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: So I know it ain't PG, but look, I'm always like, 65 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, my wife is about the my my wife 66 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: was about to run my ass out the house. Trust 67 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: on this. I've been here for six weeks. We've closed 68 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: down the office. I've been home with the wife and 69 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: my four year old. My my son gots in colleges back, 70 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: my daughter who's in college is back for for the 71 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: time being. And uh, they're driving me, you know, crazy 72 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: being home. So I'm ready to go back, but I have. 73 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: You know, one thing I have been doing every day 74 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: to stay busy is I've been getting up at five 75 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: thirty six am. And I had just before COVID started, 76 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,559 Speaker 1: I built a in the garage. Now in the house. 77 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: My wife won't let me do that, but I've built 78 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: it in the garage gym about a month or two 79 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: months before, you know, we had to shelter, stay at 80 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 1: home deal. So I've been working out every day, getting 81 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: up early, getting it in, trying to stay in shape. 82 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: I probably in the best shape since I've been playing, 83 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: despite the best shape I've been in a long time, 84 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: because I just have access to the gym. But not 85 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: only that, but you know, working with clients, I'm still 86 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, at SRP Commercial real Estate. We have a 87 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: ton of clients that I'm working with on the commercial 88 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: real estate side. Uh started a podcast about two months 89 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: ago with Tyler Klutz and a young man named Ben Gibbs. 90 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: Uh and that's been going extremely well. So I've been 91 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: staying busy. Man, I have to. I can't be a 92 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: guy who has idle hands, like, I gotta be doing something. 93 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: You look at sharp at me, like like you get 94 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: up in your shave every day, man, I ain't taking 95 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: a shave and since this day started, well you look 96 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: at sharp man, and then plus you said taking take 97 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: a shaver to show. Hey, hey, but I'll tell you what. 98 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: The beard got his eyes when you're vasing the back heat. 99 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: If you wake up tomorrow that vase going, he don't 100 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: invade your crib. That's hey. You can't. You can't hide money, Nate, 101 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: you cannot hide money. Start. Yeah, tell us a little 102 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: bit about the podcast. Where can people check it out? 103 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: And what kind of what is it a lifestyle podcast 104 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: in a sports podcast? No? No, So what We started 105 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: office myself Tyler Klutz again and got in Big Gibbs, 106 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: who we all offered together at ESRPR Commercial Real Estate 107 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: firm and Tyler Klutz, being a former player, played seven 108 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: years in the league, jumped around from team the team, 109 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: had a couple of years with the Dallas Cowboys. Ben 110 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: Gibbs played tight end in college, and we all got 111 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,119 Speaker 1: together because we all we're working in the same office. 112 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: We've all had to make that transition from football to 113 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: corporate America and had so many conversations about how hard 114 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: that transition was, what was was for all three of us, 115 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: and just decided to find ways to get back. You know, 116 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to get back and tell stories on individuals 117 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: who their stories may not be similar to mine, but 118 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: may help someone else who could be a listener growing 119 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: in any direction they want to grow in. So our 120 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: podcast is basically about interviewing interesting people who have interesting stories. 121 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: It could be sports, it could be a CEO CFO, 122 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: could be a doctor or a lawyer, or whoever it 123 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: is that's out there that has an interesting story and 124 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: we want to take them along to journey. It's not 125 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: just about the finished product and what we see. We 126 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: want to talk about the obstacles that they had to overcome, 127 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: those people that may have helped them and gave them 128 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: a helping hand. Throughout their lives. Uh, just the ups 129 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: and downs that they had to go through to get there. 130 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: Because there's so many kids that are out there right 131 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: now and adults that are are hearing these stories for 132 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: the first time and saying, damn, you know I've gone 133 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: through this. You know then this certain guy or a 134 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: girl has overcome it. This is the way they did it. 135 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: I can do this as well. So, Uh, that's the story. 136 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: That's the meat of what we're trying to do. We're 137 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: just trying to give you the journeys of those individuals 138 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: that that have, you know, unbelievable story. Where can we 139 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: if we want to hear some of that, where can 140 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: we go find it? Just anywhere you can find podcasts anywhere. 141 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: You can find podcasts on iTunes, you can go to Spotify, YouTube, 142 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,559 Speaker 1: We're on all the social media platforms, Instagram, US Darren 143 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: Woodson Show, Tyler Klutz being Gibbs Man. And I'll tell 144 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: you what. We have really really interesting guests and have 145 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: really taken off. I mean, we've had a ton of downloads. 146 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: We want the Cowboy fans to come out and support us. 147 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: Just go out and download the podcast man and uh 148 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: and share it with as many friends you possibly can. 149 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: Very cool. All right, let's get into it. Two former 150 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: Cowboy greats on this podcast together, Nate and Woody. Does 151 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: this team now, with this draft, they just had one 152 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: of the one of the best draft they've had since 153 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: I've been here. I've been here sixteen years. Do they 154 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: have the talent to make a run and get to 155 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: the big show. Nate, You've been way too quiet on this. 156 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: You go first, What do you think I've always you know, 157 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: I'd just like to listen to Woody and see what 158 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: he does because he's always been good with the community. 159 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: He's been good representative of Dallas Cowboys on and off 160 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: the field. And when he does and says things, man, 161 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: I know it's always gonna be positive. So I need 162 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: to get up on that on his app and check 163 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: his shows out managed to see how they're going and 164 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: what they're doing. I wish him well. But this Dallas 165 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: Cowboy thing, as we said earlier earlier today, as we 166 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: did I show yesterday, offensively, they're in a position to 167 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: play winning football defensively is the question I mean. And 168 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick to that because until I know what 169 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: coach Nolan and what his scheme is and what his 170 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: direction is for this, for this defense and the special teams. Uh, 171 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: I just have a big question. Offensively, yes, I think 172 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: with the with the getting of Cede Lamb as the 173 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: first player picked for the Dallas Cowboys, that was a 174 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: great get, great, great fine. But defensively, uh, we went 175 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: out and got some older gentleman. We drafted a guy 176 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: in the second and third round, a cornerback in the 177 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: second round, a d lineman in the third round. That's 178 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: the start. And until I see this product in place, 179 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: when they come off the virtual living and come into 180 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: virtual reality of what's happening, then I want to see. 181 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: Then I want to see what's happening. Then I can 182 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: make a better assessment of the assessment of this team. 183 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: What do you think? I agree, man, you knows I 184 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: agree with Nate. Look, you know, if you're expecting Treylon, 185 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: digs and and Galaimore, the La Galimore and Cede Lamb 186 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: would come in and and turn this whole thing around. Here, 187 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: you you're crazy because I don't remember rookies coming in 188 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: and making you instantly better. And we just don't know 189 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: what this draft people are talking about all this. They 190 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: had a great draft, well, let's see. You know, you 191 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: tell me, I can tell you that in week six, 192 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: week eight how great this draft is. But right now 193 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: we're just prognosticating. And look, I think this, You know, 194 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: Nate just hit on the head. Coach Nolan's gonna have 195 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: his work cut out there. We sort of know what 196 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: they have offensive We sort the ground work is there. Offensively, 197 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: they're a team right now, even with the addition to 198 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, that have great weapons on the outside and 199 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: have a strong offensive line, which that offensive line would 200 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: have played better last year than what they did. But 201 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: there's a foundation there on that offensive side of the ball. 202 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: The question mark is going to be defensively, can they 203 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: get stops? Can they replace Byron Jones? Can they get 204 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: better at the safety position? Can they Can they get 205 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: stops up front and not the team's gass from can can? 206 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: And they can they Candy? And this is a lot 207 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: of questions marks And can the guys that you're counting 208 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 1: on to Marcus Lawrence be on one the two linebackers 209 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: uh that they have. Can those guys play better than 210 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: what they played last year? So there's still a lot 211 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: of question marks defensively, And again Coach Nolan's going to 212 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: have his answer. Do you guys think the game, obviously 213 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: the game's changing. Do you think it's changed to the 214 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: point where you know, you saw with with with Kansas 215 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: City last year that you know it's always been defense 216 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: wins championships. Do you think with the some of the 217 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: rules changes they've done over the past few years that 218 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: this is becoming an offensive game and it should be 219 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: offense first and then just mediocre defense can win you 220 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: a championship or do you think you still have to 221 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: have a top you know, five or ten defense to 222 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: win in this league? Well, I think that's a that's 223 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: a great quint. Now go ahead on whatever. I'm gonna 224 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: playoff you. I'm gonna play right off you. Yeah. Look, 225 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: I think there's there's something to be said about that, 226 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: because you know, this hasn't just been the last couple 227 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: of years. This has been going on for at least 228 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: last eight to teen years. As far as being an 229 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: offensive game, this is an offensive game, and hands down, people, 230 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: that's what sales tickets, That's what put butts into seats, 231 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: is points explosive offenses, and that sales for the NFL. 232 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: But in saying that, I think you look just we 233 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: just look at Kansas City last year. We always said, well, 234 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: the offense is explosive, defensively a subpar but when you 235 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: look at that defense as a season progressed, they got 236 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: a little bit better and better and they started making 237 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: plays at inteful points of the game, which was which 238 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: was good. But if you look at just over to 239 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: just okay, what you saw with the New England pat 240 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: Patriots and what you've seen with them, they are a 241 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: well balanced football team. They've been a well balanced football 242 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: team offensively, defensively. And you know Dan Well on the 243 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: special teams, which you're gonna get. You're gonna get a 244 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: top two, top three special teams unit year any year 245 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: out with Belichick. So they're gonna win at least two 246 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: phases of the game. And if you can win two 247 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: bases of the game, then you gotta you got a 248 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: chance to win at a high level and get into 249 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: the postseason and play consistent football. Now what he I see. 250 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: That's one thing about We come out of the same 251 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: treat at Jimmy Johnson Tree, and as great as we 252 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: thought our offense was at Dallas when we won Super Bowls, 253 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: who are a top five defense and yes, the league 254 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: has changed. But as you said, and I told shutting 255 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: them as the year went on, I said, watch Kansas 256 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: City defense and with Matthews on the back and Chris 257 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: Jones up front, he got health at the right time. 258 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: What in the second half of the Super Bowl they 259 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: that team was shot down versus Kansas City. Your defense 260 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: has to show up and show out for YouTube venture 261 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,119 Speaker 1: into the postseason and go d You have a mediocre 262 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: regular season, but if you want to win and go 263 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: further in the in the playoffs, you have to have 264 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: a viable defense that make make make a play a 265 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: quarter and especially close it out to have and closing 266 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: out fourth quarter games. You have your defense out to 267 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: be just that good. And if you don't have that, 268 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: you're not going anywhere. Look at all the four teams 269 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: that made it to the to the the ACNNFC Championship. 270 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: Look how big a big role their defense is played. Yeah, 271 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: speaking of the team, Over the weekend, the news came 272 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: out that you know, the Cowboys made a move went 273 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: got Andy Dalton Dak's in the middle of you know, 274 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: the franchise tag. We talked about it on our show 275 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: with Nate yesterday. Um, you know we all agreed that 276 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: we liked the signing on a couple of different levels. 277 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: And it seems like the you know, Dak had all 278 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: all the leverage and on his side of the court, 279 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: and then with this signing, you know, was this a 280 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: leverage signing? Was this just a smart move getting a 281 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: veteran back up that that can if something happens to Dak. 282 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: You know, he's not able to play um either owner 283 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: off the field. You've got a viable quarterback now that 284 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: can just step right in and carry this team with 285 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: the offensive talent they had. What do you think about 286 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: that signing? Just overall and as a football move? Would he? 287 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: I thought it's a great move. I thought you got 288 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback in Andy Dalton that that can come in 289 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: and if something that had happened has happened has to 290 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: to Dak, then you got a guy that can step in. Listen, Cooper, 291 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: do you trust Cooper Rush if something happened to Dak? 292 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: Do you do you do you trust him to be 293 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: a guy that can lead you into, you know, to 294 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: the postseason. No, but you can't trust a guy like 295 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. And I don't look one thing I do 296 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: like about the decisions that they're making is that you're 297 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: creating competition, and no one is comfortable, and no one 298 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: should be comfortable on that football team because they haven't 299 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: won the championship since when ninety You shouldn't this should 300 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: not be This team should not be in a comfortable position. 301 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't care what position you are, the quarterback, running back. 302 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: Competition makes you better. And for Andy Dalton to be 303 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: on that team, you don't think Dak Prescott's game is 304 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: gonna go to another level. And you have a guy 305 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: in Andy Dalton that's gonna come in and he's not 306 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: going to be played the role of a threat. You 307 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: know Andy Dalton, you know who he is and his makeup. 308 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: He's going to want to win. He's gonna want to 309 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: pour into all the experience that he has and whatever 310 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: he sees, he's gonna want to pour that into Dak 311 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: Prescott and understand his role as the backup quarterback. So 312 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't see this as being I said, I think 313 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: it was a great move by the Cowboys and getting 314 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: a guy that can can play at a high level 315 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: if something happened to the starting quarterback. But he's not 316 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: gonna be disruptive in the locker room. He's gonna understand 317 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: his role and he's gonna bring it. He's gonna be 318 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: an asset to this franchise. As I told you yesterday 319 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: Shannon doing our show, and I'll said today in the 320 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: mar and the next day is coach Coach McCarthy woke 321 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: up and say, I don't have a valuable option at 322 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: my backup position at quarterback. I cannot win with Cooper Rush. 323 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, we don't know what this kid would 324 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: develop into. But if you're saying that you want to 325 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: win ten or more games, your quarterback is it has 326 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: to be an integral part of this, especially at the 327 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: backup position. They don't know whether Dak is gonna be 328 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: a part of this virtual thing or not. How much, 329 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: If so, how much so you can't wake up and 330 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: if this and if this thing is two months, it's lifted, 331 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: two weeks, it's lifted to full goal. And you get 332 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: back over there into the into the facility and start 333 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: working out, and you dackless and then you say, okay, Cooper, 334 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: come on, hey, you go, Coop. That ain't working man. 335 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: So Coach McCarthy saying, if you want the best for me, 336 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: you have to give me a viable backup at quarterback, 337 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: and this kid, Dalton, I've always liked him. He's been 338 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: in a lot of playoff games virtually. I mean, yeah, 339 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: he's been knocked out in the first round. But I 340 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: don't blame all of that on him. It's something, it's 341 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: some other factness goes into that. I think with coach McCarthy, 342 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: they have a valuable backup with this quarterback here, and 343 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: I think that it may play a role and making 344 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: that make a decision and not making a decision. I 345 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: don't want to get into the contract, but I feel 346 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: better now at our quarterback position that with this kid. 347 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: Do you know I got a question for you day 348 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: I got I got a quick question, Nick, What do 349 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: you feel about coach McCarthy. Do you feel like there's 350 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a different sort of toughness that he brings 351 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: to that locker room? What's what's the mentality that can 352 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: see to the Cowboys as a whole this year coming up? 353 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: The reason I think let me go all the way back. 354 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: The reason I think h he's a no nonsense guy 355 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: and he was at Green Bay. I used to watch 356 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: it when he gave up play calling. I told my 357 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: wife I said, that ain't gonna last long. I said, 358 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: because he's a hands on guy and he seems to 359 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: be a no non sense guy. He seem to be 360 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: a guy if you come to him and say, hey, man, 361 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: is it Scott Blue out there? He's like, yeah, it's blue. 362 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: Well I thought it was, No, it's blue. I think 363 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: he gonna tell you just what he feels and just 364 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: what he sees, and if and if you can do 365 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: that as a coach that much with Jimmy, Hey, coach, 366 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: what do you think? This is what I think, This 367 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: is what you gotta do, and if you want to 368 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: keep your job, this is how it's gonna be done. 369 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: And I think he's that type of guy, I really do. 370 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: What do you think? What are your thoughts on the boef? 371 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't like it too. I think there's there's such 372 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: a toughness that that coach McCarthy breams, I'm this is 373 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: why I'm excited, listen. I think a Jason Garrett fan, 374 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: and Jason still a good friend and will always will 375 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: remain a good friend. But there needed to be a 376 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: chance got at the talk and the cops went ahead 377 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: and make a change, and I thought it was a 378 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: great hire coach McCarty. Mike McCarthy had the chance of 379 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: sitting back last year reevaluating not only himself, bringing in 380 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: some guys to watch a lot of take and starting 381 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: to look around the league to see what's out there, 382 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: and not only that, but look at college football as well. 383 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: So I think it gave him a better, different perspective. 384 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: And now he has that reset button and you can 385 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: jump back in there. I like about him, and what 386 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: I keep on hearing about him is that he's a tough, 387 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: no nonsense guy, and I think I think that voice 388 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: needs to be loud and clear within that locker room 389 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: of the vacation is over. You've been comfortable for a 390 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: long time, you've been you know, happy, and things as 391 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: being great. Sometimes you need to shake it up. And 392 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: I can remember going back when we had Jimmy. Jimmy 393 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: was tough, hard knows, you knew exactly what you were getting. 394 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: And then we went through purgatory for it. At all 395 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: time like things were just lucy ucy, and everything was 396 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: happy and everybody was comfortable and when in their skin. 397 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: And then Bill Cartels came in and the two thousands 398 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: and shook it up again and That's when it's the 399 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: team got back on track. Is when you have a 400 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: guy who can make it uncomfortable all over again. And 401 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: I'm hoping and praying that coach Carthy exact. And more importantly, 402 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: this is where I told Shannon them, if mister Jones 403 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: walked into the locker room, mister Stephen Jones walked into 404 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: the locker room, they can't shake the locker room. When 405 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: Jimmy was our head coach, mister Jones could come in 406 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: and out of that locker room and could not shake 407 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: the locker room. You could not look over at mister 408 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: Jones and say, but it's what the coach say. And 409 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: Jerry was going on, well, what did Jimmy say? Now 410 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: you try to go to your mom, but mom, dad, 411 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: what your dad is saying? You know, you get what 412 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's as got to be. That's the shake up. 413 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: That's shake up. Hey man, I don't ever remember I 414 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: love I love Jerry, and that's my family, Joe's families, 415 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: that's my family. But I don't remember Jerry being around 416 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: in my two years was thank you. All I remember 417 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: was I remember Jimmy just being stop, thank you. Right there, 418 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: he told you what you're gonna do, and your ass 419 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: better do it. You don't do it, gone, you're out. 420 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: That's how and that's how it was run. So I 421 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: just you know, you just you understood that. Nobody again 422 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: I talk about comfort, No one was ever comfortable. You're 423 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: always on your toes because he was forever keeping you 424 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: on your toes and forever cutting guys, bringing guys in. 425 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: And the competition was so thick. If you messed up 426 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: and practice you room that was caused a lot. That's 427 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: two examples. One is Woody should have been coming in 428 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: there almost a day. One starter, what did what did 429 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: you do? Your first year? I played special teams and 430 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: wasn't they don't want I'm glad and his wings and 431 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: Thomas Effort was starting and Jimmy and Jimmy let me 432 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: know every day. Yeah, you're you're right. You don't like it, Junior, 433 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: you don't like it, Dui, And I was like, no, 434 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't like it. He said, well, so it pushed 435 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: me hard. It made me a better player, and hopefully 436 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: it made Thomas Effort and James better player. And then 437 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: one day I walked in and Jimmy's second year and 438 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: he said, nay, we want the five best guys on 439 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: the offensive line starting, and we don't care what position. 440 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: But by him telling me that, the way he looked 441 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: at me, it was a no nonsense where you know, 442 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: he smacking his lips and you know, and look at 443 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: y'all crazy. And I'm saying, my oh my god. Him, 444 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the bench. And he said, right now, 445 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: you got you as the fourth best player, and you 446 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: playing right tackle, and I'm thinking Reggie White. You know 447 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: right I got Renzie White, he said. He said, before 448 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: you say anything, I want you to think. You either 449 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: play right tackle or you back up both guards. I say, coach, 450 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: I guess you got your right tackle. So the competition 451 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: was so great. The no nonsense and the toughness was 452 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: what was there. And so you had no other choice 453 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: either either get with the program or he will tell 454 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: you as soon as I find a decent trade, all 455 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: I can find a better player. You gonna that's scary man. 456 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: He had asked for a great trade. He said, like Bill, 457 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: like Bill, you wanted fu you have it. Take a 458 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: fall forth. We don't care well before we get out 459 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: of here. Something always always like to ask if I 460 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: mean I've got two Super Bowl champions here with me. 461 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers got Darren Woolson ring on a baby. You 462 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: gotta bring that up because you need to be into 463 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: all the fame. You just brought it up there, you go, yeah, yeah, 464 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: what what? There's tons of talented teams every year. There's 465 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: there's teams that consistently have you know, elite talent, but 466 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: there's only one team every year that that wins it all. 467 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: And you guys have both been a part of that. 468 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: What what separates those teams that have the talent that 469 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: just can't quite get it done from the teams that 470 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: may not have that level of talent but seem to 471 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: consistently get it done Because there's one thing. Is it 472 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: just a combination? Is it the perfect storm? Like? What 473 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: do you guys think? I think when when I saw 474 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: the team that Darren Woodson class and what you went, 475 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: Biggie you was before after Big either bigg East class 476 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: and Woodie class changed our faith and the people that 477 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: Jimmy entrusted with his team were guys that were committed 478 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: to one thing and that's winning. So the rest of 479 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: us guys who were there or who were brought in, 480 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: we fell right into the culture of you know, I mean, 481 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: I like this dude. I used to irritate Troy Apeman 482 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: to death, but Troy knew once I hit that field 483 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: that I was gonna give everything I had for him. 484 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: I used to irritate Chroge Troyan's to take care of 485 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: me in spite of like if my dad, in spite 486 00:27:54,720 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: of and uh, I'm telling you, we we It was 487 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: a perfect storm for four or five years because guys, man, 488 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: I may look over that man and people like, Nay, 489 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: you're crazy, man, You're gonna keep yourself. But you read 490 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: it for Sunday because they do that. I live for Sundays, 491 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: and that's how it was for me. You know, Yeah, 492 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: I agree. I think I think one thing that you 493 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: always gonna when you talk about championship teams, most of 494 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: them are resilient. I mean they're they're the fundamentally they 495 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: fundamentally sound, but they're resilient and they can deal with 496 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: the ups and downs and figure out how to deal 497 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: with those obstacles. And I can say from the championship 498 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: teams that I've been on, you didn't like everybody's time. 499 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: You really didn't, man. I mean there were times in 500 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: the locker room. I was like, I look at James 501 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: Washington and I was like, drive by a lot. I 502 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: don't like a person, but I know on Sunday, on Sunday, 503 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: he was gonna be who he was and that is 504 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: mean tough to whatever it took to win football games. 505 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 1: And there were so many players on that roster that 506 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: had that ultimate goal. We figured it out for in 507 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: a week, so many different personalities, so many arguments, bids 508 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: and all that. You got through all that and then 509 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: on Sunday it came. That's why I'm all a firm believer, 510 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: is listen. I was one of the nice guys on 511 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: the team. I really was, and I knew that I 512 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: was a good guys on the team. You know what 513 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna get. But there was no way that we 514 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: were gonna win with fifty three days. We just we weren't. 515 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: There were There was no way. We needed guys that 516 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: had a level of dog in them. The Nate James Washingtons, 517 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: the Charles hay Leys. We needed guys like that who 518 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: were they were gonna walk that fine line. Now they 519 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: were gonna walk that fine line. And that's how we 520 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: won football games because those guys bought into winning at 521 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: the highest level. Well, man, this has been great, Woody. 522 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: When we get back in the building, we're gonna have 523 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: to get on the show with me and Nate and 524 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: Jesse and Kurt and talk some more football, talk about 525 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: your podcasts. See what's going on once we get back 526 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, huge, huge shout out to North Texas 527 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: Giving Day. If you want to go check it out 528 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: and see how you can participate today. Everything's open until midnight. 529 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: Go to www dot North Texas Giving Day dot org. Huge. 530 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: Really appreciated, uh, Woody for coming on on behalf of 531 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: them today. It's always great to talk to you. It's 532 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: always great to get you and Nate together and hear 533 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: about old times and hear some of the stories. And 534 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: we'll have to do it again soon. So no problem, man, 535 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for having man. Glad to see you, wood and 536 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: God bless you man. And when we get back man connected, 537 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: let's do some things. I come up and chat with 538 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: you and do a little couple of them Cup podcasts. 539 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: I know, I know your ratings to go up, yeah yeah, yeah, 540 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: I know you yeah, you know. And when your ratings 541 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: go up, I need ten percent of that change that 542 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: come in, you know. What I'm saying this, do you 543 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: hold me to get in your pocket? That's all right. Well, well, Nate, 544 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: thanks for jumping on with us. Woody, thank you for 545 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: jumping on with us. And uh go check it out again. 546 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: That's www dot North Texas give Day dot org and 547 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: we've enjoyed the time and we'll catch you guys later. 548 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 549 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.