WEBVTT - STEPH CURRY!

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<v Speaker 1>M warning, May I have your attention at the sounds

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<v Speaker 1>of the any All punches, including jabs, hooks, and uppercuts

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<v Speaker 1>will be legal for twelve continuous rounds. Danny Garcia is

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<v Speaker 1>back to purge the welterweight division, plus Jared Heard returns

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<v Speaker 1>to strike fear inside the ring on Showtime Welcome Back,

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<v Speaker 1>Episode thirteen. All the smoke, my brethren, is it? That

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<v Speaker 1>was a wet one? I got Brady looked good though.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, appreciate hey for this. And I'm excited, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we got Steph Curry here, man the chef. Appreciate you, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for your time. I haven't seen you walk

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<v Speaker 1>in these l A beaches. And I think I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>that boy posting pictures on the sunset with his wife.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm if I'm a Warrior fan. I'm like, oh ship,

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<v Speaker 1>he's in l A. You know what time it is, though,

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<v Speaker 1>How I gotta get a little vacation out of the

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<v Speaker 1>hand feeling. Man, It's all right, It's uh, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little different. I ain't had this one before. Um, but surgery,

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<v Speaker 1>a little rehab and other surgery, some more rehab. But

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<v Speaker 1>everything should be back to and pretty soon. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just chilling. What I tell people they don't understand is

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<v Speaker 1>even though the season is kind of ugly right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are resting and you haven't had no resting

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<v Speaker 1>five years. Yeah, you got you deal with your reality

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<v Speaker 1>as it comes. Right. So like Game three when I

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<v Speaker 1>was before, before I got hurt, everything was about how

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<v Speaker 1>we just like make the playoffs and put together the

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<v Speaker 1>young squad and all that. After coming off a crazy

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<v Speaker 1>you use a part of it crazy? Yeah, five six

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<v Speaker 1>year runs. So now I got hurt. It just changed

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<v Speaker 1>your perspective, like, how did I come back stronger? Look

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<v Speaker 1>at next year, and uh, figure out how we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get back to where we're supposed to be for We'll

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<v Speaker 1>touched on that a little bit later. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>the best in the disguise in my mind. You know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>coming from a mid major, did you ever think that

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<v Speaker 1>Steph Curry would change the face of basketball the way

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<v Speaker 1>it's place? What do you think you dream of dreamed

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<v Speaker 1>of it? Y'all dreamed of playing in the league and

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<v Speaker 1>and and doing amazing stuff. But I never dreamed of

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<v Speaker 1>change in the game. That's what I said. I said

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<v Speaker 1>playing in the league. I dreamed of playing in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>playing the way that I know how to play the game. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was at Davison Man, I was six one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty pounds when I got there, and I

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<v Speaker 1>found a coach at the lead to me and gave

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<v Speaker 1>me an opportunity to, you know, just go out and

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<v Speaker 1>hoop and learn how to learn through my mistakes. I

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<v Speaker 1>had thirteen turnovers my first game at Davidson, and he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say nothing. He said, just keep moving, next play mentality,

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<v Speaker 1>all that type of stuff. So I took that confidence

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<v Speaker 1>through my college career into the league. And though I

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<v Speaker 1>was still scrawling when I showed up backing on nine

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<v Speaker 1>playing nellyball, like I knew what I was capable of,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just put the work in. I think four

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<v Speaker 1>years later, when uh, I started hitting on the threes

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<v Speaker 1>and like pushing the record book and that in that respect,

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<v Speaker 1>and like you know, changing my range and UH and

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<v Speaker 1>just seeing the court a little different, that's when I

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<v Speaker 1>knew this could be how I can submit myself in

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<v Speaker 1>the league. And UH, nobody was really like using it

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<v Speaker 1>as a weapon like the way that I thought I could.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a confidence thing though, like you put the

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<v Speaker 1>work in, but it's a confidence thing, and uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you got little kids in high school and middle

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<v Speaker 1>school and younger just jacking up threes and parents and coat.

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<v Speaker 1>It was crazy because I mean, we had a tournament

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<v Speaker 1>this past weekend and you know, my boys, they've been around,

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<v Speaker 1>like we get out there early and Isaiah shooting from

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<v Speaker 1>behind before the ribbles or anything, like, bro, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing. It's like, Dad, I'm just getting warm. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to start closers Like, no, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, I listen to the whole story,

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<v Speaker 1>right because like when I that's my pops taught me

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<v Speaker 1>the way to to work on your game, like starting

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<v Speaker 1>the pain, get your convertence, see how it goes, work

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<v Speaker 1>work your way out, Like I learned that from a

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<v Speaker 1>young age. And so now everybody sees the finishers and

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<v Speaker 1>they want that. It's like the process is there's just

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<v Speaker 1>lost um and so hopefully they they understand that and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody can can figure it out, just take some time.

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<v Speaker 1>So not very many people like I said, you've done,

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<v Speaker 1>You've You've changed the face of the game coming from

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<v Speaker 1>a mid major, you know what I mean, There hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been too many guys have been able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, C. J. McCullum, Dame uh Morant, tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what that was. Like, what's coming from you? So you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't really highly recruited and you know, you weren't in

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<v Speaker 1>a top college, but we started seeing you come on

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<v Speaker 1>the scene when you face these big schools and to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to take that mid major game and really

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<v Speaker 1>translated and played in the NBA. It's a huge credit

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<v Speaker 1>to how hard you have to work. Yeah, I think, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, coming from a mid major, it's about

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<v Speaker 1>who you get to play against and that competition. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>our conference we played in the Southern Conference. I bet

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't name two other schools in that conference. Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's just that's part of the journey. But we you

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<v Speaker 1>know coach McKillip, who's still there is like this year, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they moved on to the Atlantic ten, so they moved

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit. But in terms of like when

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<v Speaker 1>I was there, we played against the Dukes of Carolinas,

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<v Speaker 1>NC States, came out here and played U C. L

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<v Speaker 1>A and got exposed and understood what it took to

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<v Speaker 1>be at that level. Once we got to the tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>what was gonna take to win my freshman year, I

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<v Speaker 1>was thrown into the fire. I was playing like thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven minutes a game at the two spots. We had

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<v Speaker 1>another point guard, Jason Richards, where I was two years

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<v Speaker 1>older than me and was like our best player at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. It was like the steady guy, the steady hand.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to learn from him. That next year. My

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<v Speaker 1>sophomore year, um kind of just took off. We had

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that knew their role. Everybody you know, came selfless,

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<v Speaker 1>did what they supposed to do. And we were two

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<v Speaker 1>and six in the first like what eight games, and

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<v Speaker 1>and and playing those teams I was talking about, and

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<v Speaker 1>we took that learn from it, put in our back pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>got to de tournament, and then we started beating everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, uh, it's just a conference. And you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>know like that, you can't play with the best. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not you get laid with that mid major D one whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just you know, just the history of it. There's

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<v Speaker 1>not doing talk about what we're about to do this

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<v Speaker 1>year and whatever. And so you got like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, damn C J. Joh and you can name them.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's guys that just want an opportunity to play,

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<v Speaker 1>and they got the town, they got the skill, they

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<v Speaker 1>got the killer instinct, and now you know, more and

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<v Speaker 1>more guys are showing it in the league. It's funny

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned confidence because the four, the three other guys

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<v Speaker 1>you name, is how yourself. They all carry themselves with

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<v Speaker 1>high confidence. And I think it's kind of probably like

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<v Speaker 1>put that chip on my show, like I don't give

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<v Speaker 1>a fun major. I'm still a killer out here exactly

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<v Speaker 1>when I was with the Warriors, when you when you came,

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<v Speaker 1>where were we like when you know, in your eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>what were we like when you came there before? When

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<v Speaker 1>I when you got drafting, I got there when you

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<v Speaker 1>got drafted was crazy. I didn't know much about that

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<v Speaker 1>specific team. Knew about you. I knew about Monte, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew by Andres that's it. Corey mcgetty too, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>know about y'all four. I forgot Court. Yeah, Court is there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I knew about y'all four. I I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>watched it was it two years before you were met, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and we believe the situation. I knew how like that

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<v Speaker 1>pride around if you said that word those two words

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<v Speaker 1>together like just be like yeah, like demon right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I knew about that, but um, I kind of when

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<v Speaker 1>I got drafted. It's kind of funny thinking back, I

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<v Speaker 1>was I wanted to go to New York, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was going to New Yorks in the draft

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<v Speaker 1>in the green room, like uh, get to the eight

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<v Speaker 1>spot in New York and get me. And I got

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<v Speaker 1>the call from Larry right late, like all right, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna gonna pick you in the seventh spot. Was dry

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit because him and him and him straight

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<v Speaker 1>to it, because I remember when he went straight to

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be here. I'm gonna say you

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<v Speaker 1>this shot all right, as kid to the point I

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<v Speaker 1>was over my room. I'm half sleep, that's all I get.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew like it was coming off of like a

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<v Speaker 1>re restructure where rebelieve it was a lot and then

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<v Speaker 1>the guys were going elsewhere and playing, So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew we weren't gonna be that good, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to, you know, work my way into the

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<v Speaker 1>starting lineup and all that. And and as as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of hard when you don't know what you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but you just working on word about just

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<v Speaker 1>hooping and playing and being around guys. One thing that

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<v Speaker 1>made me most comfortable is I got Anthony Marrow, who

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in Charlotte, and when I got drafted, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew he was He had played the previous year, was

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<v Speaker 1>going trying to make his way back onto the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that made me just hype. I know somebody I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up with her, just played with in high school

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<v Speaker 1>and followed his journey, like, let me get close to

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<v Speaker 1>him and enjoy this righte and learn as I went through.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was kind of upset with you because why

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't pull me to the side and tell me

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<v Speaker 1>this was gonna be the outcome I was gonna because

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<v Speaker 1>I heard why why you couldn't put it like O

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<v Speaker 1>g get traded. I got something story from sometimes say

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be seeing this a lot. They're gonna making songs

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<v Speaker 1>about me, all kind of ship. Just stay calm. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish you could have pulled me to the side. Jack

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<v Speaker 1>tell that story, because you know he's like I left,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I just didn't know stuff was gonna be stepped.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was Jack like an asshole back then, because

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<v Speaker 1>Jack was an asshole. If he didn't really know you were,

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<v Speaker 1>that was an asshole. But he when you had when

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<v Speaker 1>you went, and I was no question I think I

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<v Speaker 1>had that. He's still an asshole. But yeah, right, that

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<v Speaker 1>was funny because I heard him tell the stories like

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I would just would have known steps gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be steff favorite I got. I got my favorite stack story. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably like two weeks before you got traded, and

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<v Speaker 1>we were on a road trip in Indiana and we

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<v Speaker 1>went it was like seven of us went to I

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<v Speaker 1>think steakhouse right down the street from the hotel. The

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<v Speaker 1>day before, somebody had started like rumblings around your trade

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<v Speaker 1>rumors and you know this and that, and you were

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<v Speaker 1>you were unhappy and like people in the the locker room

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<v Speaker 1>unhappy and like media taking over doing what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember sitting at the dinner table and you

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<v Speaker 1>called up this reporter and cussed him out so bad

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<v Speaker 1>for writing some untrue, truthful article. I'm sitting there like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is how we do okay, this is how we

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<v Speaker 1>do it. We don't I didn't have all let im

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<v Speaker 1>come controlling stuff like that's how the NBA works it.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't like like I have to cuss like that.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point too, I was crying but I just

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<v Speaker 1>talking like he when you know what he knows and

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<v Speaker 1>he's passion about something's gonna let you know. So that

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<v Speaker 1>that was one of my favorite members. Man classic what

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<v Speaker 1>was playing with my take? Like, man, it was exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the hard part of how people kind of

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<v Speaker 1>see us was they talked about the first thing they

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<v Speaker 1>talked about with me and him is what he said, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>training camp, my rookie year, like I can play to

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<v Speaker 1>two young guys can't play together, and and this and that.

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<v Speaker 1>That was kind of how our relationship, um, you know started.

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<v Speaker 1>But he the way that uh, his talent and just

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<v Speaker 1>the way that he had that mindset like no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on with the team, like give me

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, I'm rather to get y'all bucket. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>He did. He did. He was unbelievable, and I think, um,

0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:20.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, Martha didn't get enough credit in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>just his journey, you know, coming from high school and

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<v Speaker 1>y'all know him when he was like young, I got

0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I got the VET version, but he he had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot thrown on him as a young guy from a

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<v Speaker 1>leadership perspective, you know, with this team that didn't really

0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.280
<v Speaker 1>have an identity, Um, they had expectations of what y'all

0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.600
<v Speaker 1>left do we believe team and all that, and and uh,

0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, nobody's perfect. I'm not perfect in the sense

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<v Speaker 1>of like anything. But when he called me my second

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<v Speaker 1>year and I was playing terrible for like two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>straight and he called me after practice one day and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and just kind of gave me some good words

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<v Speaker 1>of encouragement and like, nobody you don't have to do

0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:05.240
<v Speaker 1>a real has to do it, especially with um pompt

0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.280
<v Speaker 1>like there's a threat between both of us and this

0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.160
<v Speaker 1>and that and the storylines and all that. Like he

0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't he didn't care. It was just about like how

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<v Speaker 1>can we hoop and get better together and get to

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<v Speaker 1>know each other? And he called me out the blue,

0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.240
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just like, yo, just let me know, like

0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.360
<v Speaker 1>you're feeling pressure, like you're dealing with expectations. I'm doing

0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the same stuff. Like and we couldn't be further different

0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.520
<v Speaker 1>our journeys to get to the league. But you know

0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.599
<v Speaker 1>that was a good connection. Um, Like that's why I

0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:33.280
<v Speaker 1>was I love man shout out, and uh, that's why

0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to reph. I would think I got repped

0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.000
<v Speaker 1>with the with the Jersey's last year. I bore to Oracle.

0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I had to make sure they knew how much I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciated him. So sure, young Tony Mississippi Bullet, right, Mississippi Bullets.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me what it was like building with Clay and

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<v Speaker 1>then Draymond coming along, Because you guys are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like the core, the three amigos of what started it

0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.720
<v Speaker 1>and how you guys were home grown through the draft.

0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.839
<v Speaker 1>It's a different story than like today's league, right, but um,

0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was wild to think with when they

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<v Speaker 1>traded Monte after, you know, during Clay's rookie year, and

0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.920
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of sign that we're moving into the future.

0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:19.800
<v Speaker 1>And uh, Draymond comes in the second round pick the

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<v Speaker 1>steel of the draft. Did you know him before? No,

0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. Dream came out just it's hungry dog

0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:30.800
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if you'll remember so like that

0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:34.600
<v Speaker 1>first that they're Clay's second year, Draymond's rookie year. We're

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<v Speaker 1>playing against Denver in the first round of playoffs and

0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.199
<v Speaker 1>you know David Lee, you guys, he gets hurt in

0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.559
<v Speaker 1>the first game and it was like the perfect opportunity

0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.880
<v Speaker 1>for Draymond the showcase. Just what he's about as a winner,

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<v Speaker 1>right like his Michigan State you know journey obviously shout

0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:57.240
<v Speaker 1>at him, just got a new jersey retired. It was

0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.640
<v Speaker 1>always that line, like Draymonds, I got it. Nothing gonna

0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.000
<v Speaker 1>stop open the statue. But he's gonna make winning players

0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.199
<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna show if you gonn pass the eye

0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.880
<v Speaker 1>tests every single time. And for a rookie to step

0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.360
<v Speaker 1>in like that with that confidence and you know, your

0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:12.280
<v Speaker 1>first playoff experience and make a differences a lot as

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<v Speaker 1>if that goes you know, goes down like the rest

0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.520
<v Speaker 1>was history after that, and we just took that experience. Obviously. Clay,

0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.640
<v Speaker 1>he's just so want of a com and like low maintenance,

0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:29.000
<v Speaker 1>low key anybody um knows his role as competitive as

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<v Speaker 1>hell just and and he can shoot like he has

0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole the whole, the whole package in terms of

0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.800
<v Speaker 1>just how he's helped us win championships and and I

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<v Speaker 1>know he's gonna come back strong after this a c

0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.280
<v Speaker 1>L situation. But for us to be the young guys

0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.600
<v Speaker 1>at one point, now you don't go through everything. I

0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.960
<v Speaker 1>always played on the team, but be thirty two next

0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.280
<v Speaker 1>in a couple of months. Draymond Clay we got, you know,

0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.320
<v Speaker 1>hopefully a good three four year window to go back

0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.720
<v Speaker 1>at it together. Like it's it's it's it's crazy to

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<v Speaker 1>think about are you and play the best shooting calm

0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:08.680
<v Speaker 1>or whatever? Goddamn you better say that said something like

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<v Speaker 1>I wait into the show, like, bro, next time somebody asked,

0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.080
<v Speaker 1>crated you? But yeah, we are. I love it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe everybody better believe it for sure. Mark was

0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:20.680
<v Speaker 1>that Mark Jackson said that, uh that same year early yeah, early,

0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:24.080
<v Speaker 1>he was early early champion of it. But yeah, I

0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.520
<v Speaker 1>mean we still the thea thing. We still got more

0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.520
<v Speaker 1>to the Yeah, but definitely. But I've seen you know,

0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:31.960
<v Speaker 1>playing playing, getting a chance to play with you guys

0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.440
<v Speaker 1>in the seventeen season. Always compete and get you when

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<v Speaker 1>I see you guys in practice and how hard you

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<v Speaker 1>shooting and in the workouts you go through and you

0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.120
<v Speaker 1>guys really don't miss, Like you guys are real live shoes.

0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I tell when people like when I say, like that

0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.480
<v Speaker 1>show was lucky Steph Tuggs, like now steps practice that

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<v Speaker 1>shot every single day after practice, Like tell me what

0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.680
<v Speaker 1>that's like you said you mentioned in earlier, like people

0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.920
<v Speaker 1>only see the finished three point mad range process but

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<v Speaker 1>you some of the workouts, you and Katie were doing it,

0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and Clay was on his court doing this thing like

0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:02.920
<v Speaker 1>it was some of the most unbelievable ship I've ever seen.

0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.920
<v Speaker 1>When you're around greatness like that, it just continues to motivate.

0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:07.400
<v Speaker 1>You encourage it because you don't want to be to

0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.800
<v Speaker 1>do that that's not continue to getting better. Um. And

0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:12.720
<v Speaker 1>so like we all pushed each other where we talked

0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:14.720
<v Speaker 1>about it or not. It's just like a presence thing,

0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.000
<v Speaker 1>like when Katie walks on the court, when I walked

0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.600
<v Speaker 1>on the court, Clay walks on court, Draymond with uh,

0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:21.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, with his his mind set, in his passion,

0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.240
<v Speaker 1>like it's just contagious and everybody kind of just wants

0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:26.880
<v Speaker 1>to one up to any a little bit. And so

0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.080
<v Speaker 1>like you said it with Clay, Um, we don't even

0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.480
<v Speaker 1>shoot together really that often. We're on the set the

0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:37.000
<v Speaker 1>same court obviously goals, but energy and looking at each other. No,

0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I've seen you guys like I went there and I

0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.440
<v Speaker 1>was someone who always just shot after practice. But there's

0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.720
<v Speaker 1>a whole line to fucking shoot after practice. And Golden State,

0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:45.960
<v Speaker 1>like everyone Andre had his court, dray at his court.

0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.040
<v Speaker 1>You and Katie had a court, Clay had a court.

0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:49.680
<v Speaker 1>But it was amazing because even though you guys were

0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.800
<v Speaker 1>in your own rhythm and motion, I can sense that

0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of still you know. I mean, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to improve and you want to look Okay,

0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Clay just rolled off this mane. I want to make

0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:00.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So it was dope to

0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:04.040
<v Speaker 1>just sit back and see, you know, the finished products Championships,

0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.919
<v Speaker 1>but the preparation was amazing. That Ice the nets when

0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:14.159
<v Speaker 1>they finish Eric Eric Housing. But now he shout out man,

0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:21.959
<v Speaker 1>he got half man stories. He's man. Shout out Eric Housing. Man.

0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.840
<v Speaker 1>What is he still the head equipment or her resonated?

0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:32.560
<v Speaker 1>His titles changed. He everything, shout out anything I need

0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.440
<v Speaker 1>from any team though not just I feel you know,

0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:37.159
<v Speaker 1>somebody and every team. And he got to plug with

0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.080
<v Speaker 1>he He's a special one man. Learning shooting from your

0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.040
<v Speaker 1>dad early on. You know you've seen me and you've

0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:43.879
<v Speaker 1>been great to my kids. I want to bring him

0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.920
<v Speaker 1>around and have that experience being your dad's shadow early

0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:50.080
<v Speaker 1>on and learning shooting early on. Is that what kind

0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.040
<v Speaker 1>of got you into the game obviously for sure. I

0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.520
<v Speaker 1>mean just anytime you watch your pops do something if

0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.560
<v Speaker 1>you have a relationship. Blessed that I got to be

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<v Speaker 1>to see it, you know, when I was like six

0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:03.280
<v Speaker 1>or seven. He retired when I was thirteen, so for

0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the majority of his career I got to watch and

0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.600
<v Speaker 1>my brother did too. You just you gotta love the

0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.280
<v Speaker 1>game yourself. But just being around and Washington you pick

0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.240
<v Speaker 1>up stuff. It just made me want to work harder.

0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.200
<v Speaker 1>When I was thirteen, out decide I was gonna play

0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.359
<v Speaker 1>the only basketball I got really other sports like that,

0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.600
<v Speaker 1>work ethic and just how to like to be a

0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:21.920
<v Speaker 1>true professional in this in the sense of every day

0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.960
<v Speaker 1>there's something that you can you can pick up. I

0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.280
<v Speaker 1>used to not only watch him, but all his teammates

0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:29.520
<v Speaker 1>the same way your kids now. It's it's such a

0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:33.040
<v Speaker 1>cool and unbelievable experience. I think back, like what all

0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:36.639
<v Speaker 1>the things that I did see, Yeah, help me to

0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.600
<v Speaker 1>get there so just real quick. Was never like the

0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:41.440
<v Speaker 1>guy that was like, we're gonna go to the gym

0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:43.639
<v Speaker 1>right now, we're gonna work out, and like he always

0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:45.879
<v Speaker 1>made sure me and my brother wanted and wanted it

0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.920
<v Speaker 1>for ourselves. He's gonna help provide, you know, opportunities and

0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:50.680
<v Speaker 1>give us anything if we ask the questions. But it

0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.720
<v Speaker 1>was never like that drill sergeant type like you gotta

0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:59.320
<v Speaker 1>do this. Yeah, that his personality ain't drill. You know,

0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:01.760
<v Speaker 1>that was a thing being with this team. But you know,

0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:03.919
<v Speaker 1>my last handful of years in the league, I went

0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:07.240
<v Speaker 1>from you know, Chris, Paul Blake and and and DeAndre

0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Um they actually they got tripped tripping right before that.

0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:12.120
<v Speaker 1>They were around Kobe in the locker room, around Lob

0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.240
<v Speaker 1>City in the locker room. And then I came to

0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.800
<v Speaker 1>you guys, and Coach Kerr was amazing, you know as

0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:20.360
<v Speaker 1>far as just allowing access to families and in the organization,

0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.200
<v Speaker 1>taking care of everything you need to you just focus

0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.560
<v Speaker 1>on basketball. But I was bringing the twins you know,

0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:29.240
<v Speaker 1>on the team planes ball boys and where they shot.

0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:30.760
<v Speaker 1>They were shooting with you guys. Were in the Eastern

0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:32.639
<v Speaker 1>or Western Conference finals against Houston and they were over

0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:34.520
<v Speaker 1>there shooting on the court during practice with you guys,

0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.119
<v Speaker 1>Like it's kind of ship that like you can't make

0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:37.960
<v Speaker 1>up you know what I mean. And I wanted it's

0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:39.760
<v Speaker 1>cool that you remember that and hold on to that

0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:41.600
<v Speaker 1>because that's what the kind of experience I was trying

0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.240
<v Speaker 1>to give them, Like you we're on Steph Curry, Katie Clay,

0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Draymond Kobe. I mean, you soaked that up like a

0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:48.920
<v Speaker 1>sponge as a child, and it's something that it's dope

0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:50.840
<v Speaker 1>that you recall it now because that's what I was

0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:52.399
<v Speaker 1>trying to build for my kids. So I know that

0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.560
<v Speaker 1>shaves your perspective too. And obviously there's a dad um

0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.560
<v Speaker 1>that can go the opposite way where you get a

0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.200
<v Speaker 1>sensement tied them man, because you have access to all

0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.719
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, but knowing you know my dad, like they

0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:07.640
<v Speaker 1>weren't gonna let that happen. Clay is the same way

0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.920
<v Speaker 1>like when my when Michael, like you can you know,

0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.560
<v Speaker 1>show your kids these cool experiences and let them meet

0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:15.920
<v Speaker 1>amazing people and have them around because you want to

0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:17.879
<v Speaker 1>share that with them. But it's also on the back end,

0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:20.200
<v Speaker 1>like my pop's always say you're gonna work for whatever

0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you guys, nothing's gonna be given to you. And that

0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:24.880
<v Speaker 1>was a message that he made sure and he said

0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:26.920
<v Speaker 1>he's cool as a family. He makes sure I knew

0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.760
<v Speaker 1>that part, like, um, you're gonna work for whatever you got,

0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.000
<v Speaker 1>just like he did coming up. No matter who your

0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:33.320
<v Speaker 1>parents are, at the end of the day, like you

0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.840
<v Speaker 1>gotta figure it out for yourself. So you have Mark

0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Jackson and you transition to Steve Kerr. Talk about that Mark, Well,

0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:46.800
<v Speaker 1>they're very similar in the sense they're they're super competitive

0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and they they both obviously come from their playing backgrounds

0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:51.720
<v Speaker 1>where they know what it's like to be a player.

0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:53.919
<v Speaker 1>They know whatever what you go through on a daily basis,

0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:57.200
<v Speaker 1>They know how to communicate, they know, you know, just

0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:01.160
<v Speaker 1>the little touch, you know, points that you you to have, Um,

0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:05.960
<v Speaker 1>haven't been in our shoes on player. So the biggest

0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:10.480
<v Speaker 1>differences for Mark, we were young and we were unproven,

0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and he had to create an identity and create an

0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:16.879
<v Speaker 1>edge for us that you know, gave us the comments

0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:18.119
<v Speaker 1>to walk on the floor so that we can be

0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:21.280
<v Speaker 1>in any team any given night. And he's an unbelievable

0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:25.080
<v Speaker 1>motivator in terms of just the way that he can,

0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, articulate himself and give you some some type

0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:30.399
<v Speaker 1>of fuel on a nightly basis. Like he would come

0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:34.520
<v Speaker 1>in in the locker room, Uh, and he wouldn't We

0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:37.040
<v Speaker 1>talked about extra game plans, but then he's spent like

0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:40.600
<v Speaker 1>five minutes just talking about life and like the perspective

0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.439
<v Speaker 1>of you know, how much you know what makes us

0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:46.040
<v Speaker 1>all different while we're on the locker room together when

0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:47.840
<v Speaker 1>we're about to go down here, and and he bring

0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:51.520
<v Speaker 1>it around something like you know, pretty funny, serious sometimes

0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:54.440
<v Speaker 1>story that just made you like your blood star bulling,

0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.399
<v Speaker 1>like all right, oh, we we got a game right too.

0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Let's go like let's go for young guys like like

0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:00.960
<v Speaker 1>like we were at the time, like we needed all

0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:03.280
<v Speaker 1>that edge and that competitiveness and that and I gotta

0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:05.440
<v Speaker 1>would go to war for you in the media and

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.240
<v Speaker 1>the locker room. Sometimes it was to a detriment a

0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:11.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit up for upstairs, like we're all just uh,

0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:13.800
<v Speaker 1>we're just grinding trying to get to that next level.

0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:16.199
<v Speaker 1>And he helped us. Uh, he helped us get there.

0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.520
<v Speaker 1>And there's no secret I didn't want fired when when

0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:23.120
<v Speaker 1>when they went down and um, you know with Bob

0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Myers and Joe Lake and Peter Goober, they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make a decision and they brought in Steve and and

0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.359
<v Speaker 1>my my whole point was like, if you fired coach Kurve,

0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, fired on coach Jackson, you just gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>the next higher, right because we're in a position now

0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:38.119
<v Speaker 1>where you can take that next you can't mess it

0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:40.840
<v Speaker 1>up and and obviously they got it right. You know,

0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Coach Curve is uh, he's special man like he's he's wise,

0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, just in terms of you know how to

0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:53.439
<v Speaker 1>how to manage people right, Like that's that's a big

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:55.200
<v Speaker 1>thing in the league, no matter if it's the first

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:57.879
<v Speaker 1>guy the fifteen guy. You gotta be able to be honest,

0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 1>be able to set the expectations um and figure out

0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:04.560
<v Speaker 1>your ways to get the best out of out of guys.

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:06.200
<v Speaker 1>And I think anybody that would play for him would

0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 1>tell you you always know, like where you're at, Like

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:11.720
<v Speaker 1>you always know if you if you get a couple

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:13.440
<v Speaker 1>of d nps, he's gonna tell you why. He's gonna

0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 1>keep you engaged. He's not just gonna walk by and

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:18.159
<v Speaker 1>not say nothing. And we've had experiences like like that

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:20.879
<v Speaker 1>across the board, and I think that's the biggest thing

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>for long term success. Like you know, you who your

0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 1>best players are. You know that they're gonna go out

0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:25.720
<v Speaker 1>and do what they need to do every night, but

0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:28.119
<v Speaker 1>you know your role players and the guys that are

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:29.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna help you do out the regular season and have

0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.159
<v Speaker 1>those spot moments during the playoffs that's gonna make a difference,

0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 1>like they gotta be engaged all year long, and it

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:36.960
<v Speaker 1>starts in the summertime. The training, camping all the way

0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:39.560
<v Speaker 1>through and coaches is the best that just being able

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:41.119
<v Speaker 1>to paint a picture of how you're gonna help this

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:45.280
<v Speaker 1>team and being real, like you feel that care factor

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that he that he brings, and uh, it's been an

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 1>amazing journey. He's obviously had the best five year run

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 1>of coaching. He's a great motivated to I want a

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 1>championship with him. When when I was with the Spurs

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and I remember used to come out the game a lot,

0:23:58.200 --> 0:23:59.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, when Pop used to pull me from making

0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.639
<v Speaker 1>the mistakes. And I remember in the finals, you know,

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I just start I didn't start game six off or

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 1>well at all, and Pop kept pulling me. But he

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 1>kept coming to me like you're gonna make some big shots,

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you, And he kept telling me that you know,

0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess KO and I wasn't, you know, I was

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 1>in the funk, so I really wasn't hearing them and

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 1>up making three big threes again in the championship game

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:21.200
<v Speaker 1>to win the championships. So he's one of them guys

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 1>that he's so educated so smart about the game that

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:25.880
<v Speaker 1>he can see that you don't even And the cool

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:28.920
<v Speaker 1>thing about it too is he's had every seat and

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 1>almost and and wanted every seat right. So you're talking

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:37.879
<v Speaker 1>about like Chicago to San Antonio winning championships, to be

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>in the gym with his Phoenix suns and seeing what

0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:41.879
<v Speaker 1>it's like to really manage a roster, and then you

0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:43.880
<v Speaker 1>go he's an analyst where he gets to just see

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the game and talk to people and just be connected

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and and then he's a head coach and it's like

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 1>he's got it. So this year is actually interesting because

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 1>we obviously have a you know, young team and trying

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:53.920
<v Speaker 1>to figure it out and and it's testing him in

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 1>different ways. Over the last five years, he hasn't been

0:24:56.800 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 1>testing and tested and uh, I mean he's hand on man.

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 1>It's it's obviously our record is not great, but um,

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.240
<v Speaker 1>all the young guys, when you asked him like how

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 1>like you hear what they have to say about him

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 1>and how they make him feel like amiss, the struggles

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:15.400
<v Speaker 1>that they're going through. It's, uh, that's says that says

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot. You don't have a problem with the flyweed.

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think no he's someone that I think, I

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 1>think joys the well. I remember when I was playing,

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.919
<v Speaker 1>he had the spine stuff, right, So I remember that's

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>when he was kind of dabbling in the CBD space

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 1>because it was sad. I remember because I was hurting

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs too. He couldn't sit, Like if he could

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>sit for two minutes, they didn't have to lay, they

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:35.919
<v Speaker 1>need to have to walk around. Then he would try

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>to sit like his pain was enormously through the roof.

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 1>So it was one time. It's kind of awkward though,

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 1>because head coaching player current is my last season, you know,

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 1>not knowing, but it was my last season. I was

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:48.159
<v Speaker 1>just like, you know, do you do you smoke? Do

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 1>you take CBD? I mean, I'm asking my coach that

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>just because I'm seeing like the how uncomfortable and how

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 1>how how in pain he is, and you know, I

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 1>tried this and I tried that, and it was it

0:25:58.160 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 1>was just hard because he's such a good guy, but

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 1>he was really going through some ship with that spinal stuff.

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.680
<v Speaker 1>He was going through crazy. How long did it take

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>for you guys to bond? You know what I mean?

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, you were a big advocate from Mark

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Jackson you didn't want to fire, but you were persistent

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 1>on making sure it's the right higher. Once you kind

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.679
<v Speaker 1>of realized that he was the right higher, how long

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 1>to take you guys to bond? I said that first

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 1>that first year, like leading up to the Christmas game. Um,

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:27.639
<v Speaker 1>that's probably the point where I got comfortable understanding, you know,

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>how I was gonna help or how I was gonna

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 1>take advantage of assistant that he put in place, because

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>it was drastically different than than than coach Jackson. So, um,

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 1>we always laughed. He you know, talking about ball movement. Um,

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>you know player movement, you know, just making the right

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>open pass, keep keep the ball moving, and something's gonna

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>something that's gonna lead to a good shot at some point. Um,

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 1>we had certain like reads and calls left very some

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:56.359
<v Speaker 1>of the spurs uh systems, And he always say, like,

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:59.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is it's pretty intuitive what we're trying

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.439
<v Speaker 1>to do. But you know, we just got to get

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the fundamentals and the foundations of it for this year

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>and then next year, you know, when we really got

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it and everybody understands where to be and when you

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 1>know in the timing of everything, like we're really gonna

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:11.959
<v Speaker 1>take off. But it's like funny because that first year

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>we wanted we won the championship, and every day it

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 1>was about just keeping things simple, right And as a

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>point guard, that's that's I loved it because my game,

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I try to keep things simple, like take the first

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:28.640
<v Speaker 1>open shot. Your handles ain't simple, far from it. Your

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 1>handles are not simple. Beyond that, if it's if you

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>open from thirty shooting. If not, move it, get off

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 1>and get off the ball, get out the way somebody

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>else make a play. We obviously we're blessed with a

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of different playmakers. You know, you've got myself, Sean

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Andre Draymond from the top, we keep playing. We have

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 1>bigs that could pass with bogan um and all that.

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>So like it worked because of our personnel. But that's

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 1>just a fun way to play basketball. Um and it's

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.679
<v Speaker 1>obviously proved success. But when you know, like everybody feels

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 1>involved and like they know to get but they all

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 1>to be a threat. I do. Nobody knows who liked

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 1>to shoot, and that's what makes you so dangerous because

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:14.360
<v Speaker 1>everyone is. Because I caught both ends of you guys

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 1>obviously kind of we were I wouldn't even say, big brother,

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>but what kind of you are? The Lob City team

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.200
<v Speaker 1>was kind of your battle and your barometer from the

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>time we beat you guys until you guys win in

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>the championship next year. So we saw the Mark Jackson

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>building that foundation. And I'll be like, oh, these young

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's about the guys and Draymond because I remember we

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 1>had CCP and he was the guy, and Draymond was

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>like fun that I'm taking Steph Curry every single night,

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and he was doing some fun up ship to our team,

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>like stepping on chris Is shoe making a fall getting jump.

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>He stepped on the shoe. And then the one time

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>in Golden State where you went in between our the

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>whole team at the free through came out and turn

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>around shot. And then when Kurt was like and he

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>made it. It was probably one of the most unbelievable shots.

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>He don't even you're dribbling around down, free throw, line back,

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 1>turned around, fade, three points, like all kinds of crazy

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>dribbling in between. Now just like this dude, and men

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>like you can't do nothing, dope. Serious, serious was so

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 1>much in it. But that's when we knew, like I

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>knew being a bathroom mind was like these motherfucker's got

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>next in it. Scood be next for a minute, and

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:11.959
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was amazing. Like I said, we were

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>still competitive and wanted to kick your guys asses, but

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>we can see what you guys are building and how

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 1>special you guys were that last year. I mean that

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that's serious. I think was when the all the sterling

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>ship Sterling ship that happened. It's kind of crazy, Like

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>you talked about two teams that this is, to be honest,

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>they hated each other. There's a lot of animosity and

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>history and all that get into a seven game series.

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Then you got all the other in thea drama going

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>on and we're like having conversations and if they don't

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>make the ready like what we're gonna do. We're gonna protest,

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna you know, walk off the court, like what

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>what what? What would have done? They would have decided

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>not to play? We had a we had conversations like

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>if they would have done the wrong thing in terms

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>of not kicking them out the league and having you know,

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>lifetime band or whatever. There's talks about us going to

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>jump ball. The jump ball we all shake hands and

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>just walk off the floor. That would have been so hard.

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Part of me, that would have been crazy. We should

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>have did it anyway, when you think about his place

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>in history and what it would have been right that

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>it would have been up as hell. Yeah, that was

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>a crazy thing that definitely likes. We lost and we

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>sit there watching it in the next round, but it

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>definitely helped us. But I think too, and I can

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>say this because I think people not like it was

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>a perfect sign of we had the most talent in

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>the NBA. They were a young team that had a

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>ton of talent too, But what set them aside is

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>they really fucked with each other and their chemistry made

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 1>them better than us. You know, even though at the

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 1>time we were older, bigger, stronger, we had more talent.

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 1>We should have probably won the finals. Like you could

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 1>tell this team was up and coming, but they really

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>they put from the outside looking in. Once I got

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>there and I saw the whole situation from Katie and

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>how you guys really put your game, your egos, everything

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>to the side. But from the outside looking in early on,

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, these guys just want to win. They don't

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>care who scores, what's going on like they're just out

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>here playing basketball, laugh been jumping and having a good time,

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and those are scary teams. That's part of our DNA, man,

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's why it worked, because if you

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>have that much talent and you stress out about whatever,

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>like somebody else's success or if you're getting yours and

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>all that, like, you gotta set that foundation earlier before

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess that gets out of hand. And that's that's

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>why we accomplished what we did. Man. Winning the championship

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 1>is always good. You got a couple of them, motherfucker's three?

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Which is it a favorite one? The first one? For sure?

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>The first one is the favorite. Just why because you

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know what, like what it takes to get there

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>until you actually accomplish it. And it's just a whole

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>another level level of freedom after that. And you got one,

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>like we can get greedy now. The stress of trying

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>to get that one first, even that's that's a stressful time,

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>like even I mean, and you're playing Braun and obviously

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 1>they had injuries and whatnot, but just like the just

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the ground eighty two games, you gotta be locked in

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:01.959
<v Speaker 1>everything plus six team win when we took us twenty

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>one or twenty two, whatever it was to get there.

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 1>And you know how intention playoff games are. Man, it's

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>like it's so hard to put in the words. But

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>when you finally hit the horn, sound were in Cleveland

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 1>like celebrating changes off, like all right, this who knows

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>what's about to happen from you know, it's dope. When

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>they went back and playing next year, he said it,

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>he said, that's got a little bit of asshole ship

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>talking to him, but he just covers it up with

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>a good image. That ship was slick as I was like, oh,

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 1>he's an a boy. You had you have three championships,

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>uh you know the two losses, yeah, one of the

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Like you know how close you were there possibly winning

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>four or five without injury last season, Like, tell me

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:53.239
<v Speaker 1>what that's like. I just love being in the conversation. Man,

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>every year if you get in the finals, like it's crazy,

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>it sounds not many people get that experience. You know,

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>some some time greats never played in the finals or

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>never one, so like I it just has a gratitude

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>for that. Obviously, as a competitor, it sucks when you lose,

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Like everybody, the sixth team was hard sixth team was

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, just up and down crazy, you know, playoff

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>run obviously sevent three and nine. Damn getting to the playoffs.

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I get hurt miss like three weeks of the playoffs,

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>come back. We we get to Western Commons finals, were

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>down three one, like people think our seasons over with

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 1>come back, so we were on both sides of the

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 1>three one situation. And then the finals obviously, you know,

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the wheels just fell off and Kyrie and

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Lebron played unbelievable three straight games. Like I don't think

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>people talk about that part of it as much as

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>always like, well, like we got but we didn't lose,

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>we got beat. So part of it is is just

0:33:56.960 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 1>like each story is each year as a different like

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>narrative and an experience. And I look back like I

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate each and every one of them because I

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 1>won't remember who you went to war with. And you know,

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>those wins were special, but even the losses, like you

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>gotta put into perspective. Man, we're in the finals, like

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 1>great players. It was a fight, Like I think at

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day when we all you know,

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 1>hosting our own podcast, like and I look across the room,

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>and I see Brian and Kyrie and Kauai and Kyle

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Lowry like and like, yo, that was fun, right, Let

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>that stay away as long as I like this. You

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 1>touched on the real quick. And I think what gets

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.240
<v Speaker 1>lost in the shuffle is that seventy three and nine season,

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Like what was that like? Knowing that you guys were

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 1>eggbox shit crazy? Every seemed like the season around you

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 1>here Pip talking a little bit and Horma bulls talking

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and they're not going to be able to do it,

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and you guys went seventy three and nine and but

0:34:58.440 --> 0:34:59.799
<v Speaker 1>then you hear about what they didn't want the chance,

0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>like you know, I think what gets lost is you

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>guys lost nine games and once that's incredible'eable? What was that? What?

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>What was the regular season? And that dreamed you guys,

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>people understand that's a mental dream to the physical dream.

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>What's that mental dream? So I think it started in

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the summer between so we want the championship in fifteen,

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 1>All season happens, and all we hear all the years

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 1>we got lucky, right, That's all they're all we hear

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.240
<v Speaker 1>is Cleveland was heard. Mike Conley was hurt, like whatever

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the narrative was and we don't care, we want a championship.

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>All we want to do coming in next year is

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>like the validate, right we start off twenty four and all.

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>So like that part of it alone was like that

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>was about that. That part was the craziest thing in

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the world, just because we had O D confidence, we

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:51.359
<v Speaker 1>had chemistry like you said, um and like the change

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>was off. We were just like, let's just go, let's

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 1>just go win every single game and you know, to

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 1>go twenty four and oh, like the intensity of that

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.360
<v Speaker 1>to start the season is it was worth it. But

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>it was a lot and you know, the the just

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 1>the chase down the stretch. Every game was like the

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 1>finals and we have been celebrating right there us champagne,

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 1>let's go bab Everybody's like, do we regret going after

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 1>sevent three wins because we may have flamed out in

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 1>the last in the finals. No, like that was an

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 1>amazing accomplishment. We knew we could do that and go,

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, win another ring and we were right there obviously.

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 1>So uh it is bitter sweet. You look at the

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>banner and says seventy three and nine most wins in

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 1>league and it doesn't mind you right for the finals,

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 1>but everybody thought seven two nur was untouchable, and we

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:45.840
<v Speaker 1>got it. So that's the beaut of the league. Like

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.479
<v Speaker 1>it just keeps getting better and better. So we'll see.

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Tell me your thoughts on because today you're such a

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, join another team or big trade, but the

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 1>root of your team was through the draft and then

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>that positioned you to be able to pick up KD

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 1>and free agent. Tell me about that whole process. I mean,

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not the best one to ask. I've been with

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 1>the same team for eleven years, but it's like the

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>landscape is different, right, There's a lot more player movement,

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>player freedom, and and that's a great thing to have

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 1>where you know you can control your own destiny in

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>a sense like um, there's been plenty of teams that

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>have thought that you know, they're big two, big three,

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:27.239
<v Speaker 1>was gonna get it done, but it didn't happen, and

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:29.399
<v Speaker 1>you gotta take a shot at it. You gotta go after.

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Every year is precious. We all know that, and so

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I love the the I guess you caught the suspense

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:38.240
<v Speaker 1>of it like every summer, Like all right, how drastic

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 1>is the league? Differently is the league gonna look next

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 1>year and the summer was crazy. Um it's going to

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>get even crazy as we go through. So there is

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:49.800
<v Speaker 1>something pure about like you said me, Clay Draymond setting

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the tone of building an identity for a team that

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 1>then made it make sense for Katie to be you know,

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:57.839
<v Speaker 1>he wants to join it. Like it's like he knows

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:00.759
<v Speaker 1>what we're about and he could take at another level.

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>And so to be able to build that the way

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:05.960
<v Speaker 1>we did and and have the memories that we do

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>and then now be on the other side of and say, okay,

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 1>keep that same identity, that same you know, championship mentality.

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's go for another window playing against teams that's gonna

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:19.760
<v Speaker 1>be shuffling and doing a lot of you know, changing

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:22.879
<v Speaker 1>throughout this throughout the summer. So it's it's fun to watch,

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I know for NBA fans, it's gonna be amazing year around.

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 1>That's what continues to make the thing that business grow.

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully I can, I don't. I don't want me nowhere,

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:32.879
<v Speaker 1>so for you don't have to worry about that. It's

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 1>good Man good beaches down here, and it's nice, but

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>the bay is good. It's different. Tell me what it

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>was like when when when it finally happens, when when

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 1>you guys signed k D. Was there back and forth

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 1>talk did you know where you're part of it? Like,

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>tell me what it was like when you landed them. Yeah,

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 1>we went out. We went out there to the Hamptons

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and we met with him, and part of it was

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 1>again kind of just said like we knew who we

0:38:57.840 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 1>were as a unit and knew it what kind of

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>us and he was and obviously his skill set and

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm matching, so it makes sense. Let's go, let's go

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:07.959
<v Speaker 1>get this dude. A lot of people are talking about

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 1>me comeing out of the m VP year and the

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>sacrifice and all that type of stuff, like it's about winning.

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Like obviously that does go through your mind, like, oh,

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I might not have twenty two shots this year, it

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>might be like nineteen and some change and play a

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 1>different style. But for the most part, it wasn't really

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>that drastic of a change. You know, we know how

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:28.959
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get our shots, and everybody has a different style.

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Nobody really stepped on each other's toes, and so it

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>made sense. Um, I didn't know until he called me

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the morning of his decision. I was in Hawaii actually,

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 1>so the time differences. I was asleep and I woke

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>up to seventy eight text measures and calls like like

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>he was you know, I hit him back, and just

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>that's that was the start of of three great years,

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.800
<v Speaker 1>um that we'll remember for a very long time. And

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>all the all the stuff that uh that's happened, that

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>happened last year, and and uh and obviously the unfortunate

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 1>injury and all that type of stuff is a tough

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 1>ending to an amazing, you know, time period, you know,

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>being for the Warriors. But man, we've got two ships,

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:13.399
<v Speaker 1>almost got three, like the hell of a run. Tell

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:14.759
<v Speaker 1>me what it was like, because, like I said, you

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 1>guys had your identity and knew who you were as

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:18.799
<v Speaker 1>a ball club and knew each other like the back

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 1>of your hand. Tell me what kind of sacrifice it

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>took from you know, he said, you're coming off as

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 1>you have the unanimous MVP previous year, right, first time

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>in history, Clay is being Clay Draymond a fucking dog.

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:32.359
<v Speaker 1>So tell me what it was like when you get

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:35.840
<v Speaker 1>some of his caliber and then how everyone it seemed

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't there at the beginning. I got a taste

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>of it. But it's seamless from the beginning, like everyone

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>checked their egos and checked you know, the most important

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.879
<v Speaker 1>thing was winning. Yeah, the egos are checked for sure,

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I say that. But at the end of the day,

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 1>we all gotta keep by you, right if we all

0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 1>have our best version of ourselves, like selfless the better word. Yeah,

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I like that. So that was that was that was

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:07.400
<v Speaker 1>known from the jump um on the court like excess

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:10.360
<v Speaker 1>and those and just stout. I said, it wasn't a

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 1>big adjustment for me, but I had to make the

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 1>biggest adjustment in terms of you know, Draymond such an

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 1>amazing playmaker, and we had an offense where we could

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 1>get him the ball and uh, guys are just moving

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:23.799
<v Speaker 1>around setting screens for each other. Somebody's can get open

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and he was gonna make the past. Kay can play

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:28.440
<v Speaker 1>in that style. He can also just get the ball

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 1>anywhere he wants to and one on one and let

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 1>stopping and clay. Same thing. All he needs is this

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:38.319
<v Speaker 1>much daylight and he's yes, true, he's so good moving

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 1>out the ball um. All he needs is a touch

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 1>and is going up my pick and roll stuff, which

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of the bread and butter of you know,

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:48.400
<v Speaker 1>the two years prior to the m VP years and all,

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't that many opportunities because that was like the

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 1>fourth option in terms of, you know, I was getting

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 1>a good shot because we're all threats on the floor.

0:41:56.920 --> 0:42:00.840
<v Speaker 1>So that first like two or three months, it was

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:04.720
<v Speaker 1>just a subtle adjustment in terms of for me just knowing,

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:07.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, when I was gonna be able to dominate

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 1>in certain stretches of the game, and like how we

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>could balance all of that. And once we figure that out, Uh,

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 1>we had a good run. K got hurt. Actually, Uh,

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I think like February, Yeah, yeah, which is a crazy

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 1>story because two guys got jerseys for like a half

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:28.400
<v Speaker 1>crazy right here. That Yeah, it was crazy. Thankfully we

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:30.800
<v Speaker 1>got the right guy, and uh we went on a

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:33.800
<v Speaker 1>little run when you came. Ka was out, and that

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 1>helped everybody understand like this, this this system is gonna work.

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 1>K is gonna come back healthy. We're gonna hit the

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 1>ground running for the playoffs. And we went in sixteen

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and one in the in the in the in the

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 1>playoffs and one. So uh, just the a collection of

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 1>guys that just wanted to hoop and play basketball at

0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the highest level and didn't care how it's gonna get done.

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>We're just gonna we're gonna make it happen. And uh

0:42:57.440 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>we did all right. Like I said, I was blessed

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:02.439
<v Speaker 1>to be able to come in and watch you guys

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:04.799
<v Speaker 1>and be a part of that. But what I saw

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:06.440
<v Speaker 1>from the outside looking at is when I got a

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 1>chance to be on the inside, and then after I

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 1>was on the outside again, did you guys ever feel

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:13.359
<v Speaker 1>actually speak for yourself? It always seemed like the media

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:15.800
<v Speaker 1>tried to make it Katie and the Warriors. Did you

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:18.840
<v Speaker 1>guys feel that? I definitely felt that, And that was

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, anytime you have greatness, they're gonna try to

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 1>break one way, to find some way to to just

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:26.800
<v Speaker 1>get their foot in the door. So yeah, it was

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 1>always like the draft, the drafted guys, plus you know

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the higher distassin Katie unfair with It was never this.

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>There was always like the Warriors and Katie. I mean,

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 1>as a fortunate as that narrative is, it couldn't have

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:43.919
<v Speaker 1>been further from the guy. So like, that's the hard

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 1>part when you when you at the top, like it's

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 1>a daily reminded you have to come in with the

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>right perspective, because after one one person slips or one rumor,

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 1>narrative submense itself in your head, like we were on

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 1>spot like all the time, man, Like, don't think people

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:04.400
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that part of every single day. It was crazy too,

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 1>because when I came in, like you said, we went

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 1>on a cooler to run, and like, not because of me,

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 1>it was just because of what that we know that

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:18.239
<v Speaker 1>obvious is what I was trying to port. That came

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>out wrong, right, It was. The record was good, though

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 1>what I meant to say was way to not contribute

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs, so I don't even count that championship.

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 1>We'll get into that later. But I appreciate I appreciate

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 1>the free ride. What I meant to say was we

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 1>went on a hell of a run when Katie was out.

0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 1>But you would hear those rumors like look how good

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 1>they're doing without him, and I'm just like, damn, people

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 1>really talk like this not knowing. I appreciate people not

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 1>knowing like how good he is. But like they say,

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 1>they'll see the team doing what they're doing and you know,

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 1>staying on that consistent pace, and you start hearing like,

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 1>oh well, they don't even need, and I'm just like,

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:01.399
<v Speaker 1>that's insane, like you know, but realized, how motherfucker did

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:05.799
<v Speaker 1>this guy is I'm good that you're sick. You finally

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:10.719
<v Speaker 1>had a moment. I'm just saying, came out wrong. You

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:14.440
<v Speaker 1>say at the pig pussy fort, that's how that's how

0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>blatantly obviously it was one thing before we transition, man,

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to touch on, is it explain explain Draymond

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 1>to people who don't know Draymond, because I think he's

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:33.439
<v Speaker 1>one of the most misunderstood people. Got a good heart,

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:35.399
<v Speaker 1>but sometimes it comes off the wrong way, and it's

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's problem ful. Sometimes that's what's needed. Explain who

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:41.800
<v Speaker 1>he is in your first The first way I explained

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 1>him is that Draymond and basketball player is not Draymond

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:48.479
<v Speaker 1>the person, right, So like we all know Draymond the person.

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Nicest dude, Karen, do you always checking in on you? Yeah,

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:58.799
<v Speaker 1>He's loyal, like everything about him, like off the court

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 1>is somebody you want like around, you want somebody in

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 1>your camp, like like dreaming on the court, the same

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 1>way he comes with that passion comes you know a

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of volatility in terms of you know, it could

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 1>it galvanized us as a team. Make sure you know,

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:20.400
<v Speaker 1>we got a lot of nice guys finess games and

0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:23.359
<v Speaker 1>myself included, like you need that fire like somebody that's

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 1>that bulldog. And sometimes he'll admit the same thing, like sometimes, um,

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:30.720
<v Speaker 1>it does get in his way because it might distract

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 1>from just playing basketball. But over the course of whatever,

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the nine seasons we've been playing together, I'm taking that

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:41.880
<v Speaker 1>every single day of the week, and so and the

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 1>and the bad is that's an opportunity to learn, right,

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Like that's that's that's that narrative is kind of tough

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 1>because his transgressions were just exposed on the court, Like

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:55.839
<v Speaker 1>and the guy that he was what you know, first

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 1>championship run whatever, is not the same dude, and he's

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 1>evolved and learned and like we all have. It's just

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, he wears everything on the sleeve and so

0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>everybody gets to have that journey with him almost he's

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 1>like the dad out there now, like he's you know,

0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 1>having rested that great minds out there playing like you know,

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:13.759
<v Speaker 1>twenty something. It is the game. I talked to him

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 1>here and here and there, and it's just he's just

0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>a good dude. Man. He takes everything in stride and

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 1>has peop don't understand how intelligent he is and and

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 1>his basketball mind is is second to none. It is.

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I think Andre said it like he's his i Q

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 1>is is the best he's ever seen. And and either

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:34.280
<v Speaker 1>it comes out with him trying to make an adjustment

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:35.800
<v Speaker 1>or it comes out and what he says to a

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>certain person at a certain time to get them to

0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>do what he wants him to do to help the

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 1>team win. Um, him understanding his own game and how

0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be the most effective out there every single night.

0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Him knowing every single player in this league and on

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 1>every tendency you have, every pet movie, he would understand. Man,

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:57.440
<v Speaker 1>his mind is sick. Mind is sick. So yeah, that's

0:47:57.520 --> 0:47:59.320
<v Speaker 1>my that's my guy. So what do you like to

0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 1>do now that you know you're down for a while?

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:03.719
<v Speaker 1>You you haven't had this as a professional, like when

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you know extended amount of time down, Like what are you?

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:09.840
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing right now? The crazy part is

0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 1>like I have three kids, seven, four and one, and

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:16.320
<v Speaker 1>the first like three weeks, I was hurt and I

0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:18.719
<v Speaker 1>was just quitter, like to stay at home there like

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 1>doing all the stuff that I've always wanted to do,

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:23.799
<v Speaker 1>like take him to school, you know, pick them up.

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>That all the extracurricular activities, my daughters and horseback riding,

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, playing soccer, like just being at every event

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 1>without an excuse that I gotta go somewhere, I gotta

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 1>be on the road trip and stuff. It was uncomfortable

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 1>because I was instill in that competitive mindset and I

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:39.919
<v Speaker 1>didn't really know how to you know, use my free

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:43.360
<v Speaker 1>time because everything was centered around you know practice or

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 1>pre practice routines, practice post practice recovery and get ready

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>for game days and traveling all that type of stuff.

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 1>So when all that's taken away, it's kind of an

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable like you know reality for a little bit. But now,

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 1>um knowing I still got you know, months to to

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:02.719
<v Speaker 1>get back and get healthy, um trying to lean into stuff.

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I got all off the court a little bit obviously

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 1>as a as a teammate, I haven't been at the

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:08.920
<v Speaker 1>games because I've been down here, you know with surgery

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and rehab. But you still gotta be you know, president

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>leader and help these guys you know, developed, because this

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:17.239
<v Speaker 1>is gonna help set us up for for years to come.

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:19.400
<v Speaker 1>But um, in terms of balance, and the stuff that

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I have on and off the course another opportunity just

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:25.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of get your mind right and personally just get

0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:31.480
<v Speaker 1>a perspective on you know, what's important. And for me, like,

0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:33.879
<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of cool opportunities off the court man,

0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:37.440
<v Speaker 1>like doing some stuff in production uh side down here

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:41.600
<v Speaker 1>with my company Unanimous, who's doing stuff with Sony. Y'all know,

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I love to play golf and there's a lot of

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:47.440
<v Speaker 1>opportunities in the golf business that hopefully I can influence

0:49:47.480 --> 0:49:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and inspire. H Can you talk I don't want to

0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about some of the stuff you're doing because you're

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 1>doing some amazing stuff that I think you got highlighted,

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:55.840
<v Speaker 1>but people don't understand what you're doing. Can you explain

0:49:55.840 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>to what you're doing at the colleges and stuff. Yeah,

0:49:57.680 --> 0:50:00.520
<v Speaker 1>So like in the golf space, UM, I've been playing

0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:04.640
<v Speaker 1>since I was ten, and you know, it's a predominantly male, white,

0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:08.040
<v Speaker 1>male dominant sport and it's expensive to play and it's

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:10.919
<v Speaker 1>really hard to get in and so trying to grow

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the game, UM, to underrepresent the communities. There's a lot

0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:15.719
<v Speaker 1>of talent. They just needed the opportunity to be able

0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:18.120
<v Speaker 1>to get out there and understand what you know, you

0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:20.360
<v Speaker 1>know how to play and and gets that support so

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:23.279
<v Speaker 1>that they can compete. And so because that provides so

0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:25.719
<v Speaker 1>many opportunities and in this day and age, and so

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:30.800
<v Speaker 1>part of that was, like, um, Howard University had a

0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Division one golf team like way way back and they

0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:38.160
<v Speaker 1>lost funding. Um there's a lot of HBCUs that have

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 1>a golf program, but Howard didn't. And so part of uh,

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:44.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, my aim to grow the game and get

0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 1>some exposure around it was to try to bring the

0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Division one golf program back. And so I sponsored the

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 1>team that's gonna start next year. It's gonna be Division

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 1>one golf program. Um, we're gonna have three or two

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 1>scholarship UM golfers, both two men to women to start

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:07.239
<v Speaker 1>the first team and uh and hopefully be able to

0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 1>set up an endowment over the next six years where

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:13.200
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be something that's gonna be around forever. So UM,

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:18.319
<v Speaker 1>it's exciting, man, because you know, I think not many

0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:20.960
<v Speaker 1>people know how how great of a game it is one,

0:51:21.239 --> 0:51:24.320
<v Speaker 1>but but to just how many opportunities you have you

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:26.320
<v Speaker 1>can go to school and play golf and get an education,

0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 1>especially like the place like Howard like that says the

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 1>rest of your life. And you can use golf just

0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:32.800
<v Speaker 1>like we use basketball as it was a vehicle to

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 1>do it. So it's pretty cool. Your dad said once

0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that if you didn't play basketball, you probably could have

0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:39.839
<v Speaker 1>went pro and golf. He said that, I I kind

0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:43.400
<v Speaker 1>of believe it because how hard, how hard I worked

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:47.880
<v Speaker 1>at fact I wasn't playing that same thing, but always

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:51.960
<v Speaker 1>like hesitate to say it because I respect respect. It

0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:55.879
<v Speaker 1>was a profession. I've seen him play and just it's

0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:57.800
<v Speaker 1>just another level, man, And for me to just go

0:51:57.840 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>ahead and wild out and say I could be a

0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:01.960
<v Speaker 1>fresh golfer, Like I wish somebody would say I could

0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:05.800
<v Speaker 1>be fresh and they playing, you know you couldn't. But

0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I think I said I was playing for a long time.

0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I love the game. I'm I'm I'm a golf junkie,

0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:15.880
<v Speaker 1>golf nerd. It's kind of I'm kind of obsessed just

0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 1>being on the sideline, you know, watching I know it sucks.

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've all been hurt, we've all been on

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 1>side and I've never played. But watching your team go

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:23.920
<v Speaker 1>through what they're going through right now and not being

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 1>not that the league, you know what that's like what

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:32.000
<v Speaker 1>is that? Like? Is that frustrating? Come frustrating? Um, Like

0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 1>when you're in the win, in the fighting and that

0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:35.759
<v Speaker 1>like in the run that we are. It's so it's

0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:38.919
<v Speaker 1>hard to separate yourself and really like be okay with Okay,

0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:40.839
<v Speaker 1>this might not be our year. Like that's a really

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:44.400
<v Speaker 1>hard thing to to accept. Um. But it's all apart

0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:46.520
<v Speaker 1>like history and NBA, like nobody's had a run like

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.440
<v Speaker 1>we've had. And if you look like the Spurs teams

0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:51.279
<v Speaker 1>in the past, like they never they never went back

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 1>to back, right, but they had seventeen year run where

0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:58.440
<v Speaker 1>they were just dominant and uh and they were able

0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:00.720
<v Speaker 1>to figure it out over time and put different pieces

0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 1>together with their core. And that's kind of like what

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 1>we have the opportunity to do now going into you know,

0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:10.799
<v Speaker 1>next year and beyond. So uh yeah, that's that's that's

0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the best way. It's still it's still kind of still new.

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say it's it's it's comfortable yet, but there

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 1>is an understanding of just where we are balancing, you know,

0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 1>these last five years and what's what's the you got

0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:24.800
<v Speaker 1>plus you got pluses on the team. Pascal Ball is

0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 1>good to see he and he he's that dude, like

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 1>just the confidence because it's just how hard he works.

0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:39.799
<v Speaker 1>But you can't teach that right, you can't be born

0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:41.200
<v Speaker 1>with you gotta be born with it. You gotta be

0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:42.480
<v Speaker 1>able to step on the floor and have that that

0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:45.600
<v Speaker 1>presence and like the man like I'm here and he's

0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:49.680
<v Speaker 1>definitely shown that. Kyle Oman, who uh is our two

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:51.920
<v Speaker 1>AY player, Damian Lee are two A player. They both

0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:55.600
<v Speaker 1>have promising futures in the league and hopefully we can

0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 1>keep them around. Um, you know a lot of guys

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:00.799
<v Speaker 1>that just like my rookie years stone in the fire,

0:54:01.200 --> 0:54:04.520
<v Speaker 1>learned on the court like and part of the conversation

0:54:04.560 --> 0:54:06.640
<v Speaker 1>with those guys, I think that's the we all know.

0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>That's a much better way to learn as opposed to

0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:11.600
<v Speaker 1>most reas just get camped on the bench or in

0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.520
<v Speaker 1>then the G League and have to uh to learn

0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:18.799
<v Speaker 1>about watching. Um, I'd rather have this experience and it's

0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:21.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna be It's gonna be huge for them down the road.

0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Tell me what it was like. It's kind of a

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:27.400
<v Speaker 1>two part you're on the way uh leaving Oracle went

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:30.359
<v Speaker 1>that was like, but then the Jersey run you had

0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:33.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of representing our old squad man salute. Yeah, that

0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:36.759
<v Speaker 1>was as the O G of the team and like

0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:39.719
<v Speaker 1>the only one that uh you know from from the

0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:42.759
<v Speaker 1>froman and you know, it's my tenth yer in the league.

0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:44.960
<v Speaker 1>And so it's a cool opportunity. I called it ten

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:49.760
<v Speaker 1>for ten in the town. So I had my current sixes.

0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:52.719
<v Speaker 1>I had a whole color way slate that was kind

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:56.680
<v Speaker 1>of highlighted stories of um, of my my journey throughout

0:54:56.840 --> 0:54:59.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, those ten years, and my connection to Oakland

0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:01.520
<v Speaker 1>and our family base over there. And it was a

0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:04.520
<v Speaker 1>cool opportunity just honored that the last forty seven years

0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:06.360
<v Speaker 1>playing in the Oracle because of how much you know

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:10.480
<v Speaker 1>history there is, how Oakland's riding down and good bad

0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:15.760
<v Speaker 1>everything and uh and so like part of that last

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:19.560
<v Speaker 1>like five home games, Uh, I picked five people to

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:22.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of honor them and their presence with you know,

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:26.440
<v Speaker 1>with for dubbed nation with the old school jerseys and

0:55:26.480 --> 0:55:31.400
<v Speaker 1>all that. So, um, this was it. Uh, Stack was

0:55:31.520 --> 0:55:39.600
<v Speaker 1>first b D Monte Andrew's bidrons Google wherever you're you're

0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:44.320
<v Speaker 1>somewhere getting drunk. I know right now everybody black black.

0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:54.840
<v Speaker 1>But so it was a cool opportunity just to just

0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:57.560
<v Speaker 1>highlighted man because we were. Everybody knew we were moving

0:55:57.600 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 1>to Chase Center, and I mean, whether you whether you

0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:03.640
<v Speaker 1>liked it or not, it was happening. We appreciated. Man,

0:56:03.680 --> 0:56:08.719
<v Speaker 1>that was good. I couldn't believe that. On my social media,

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:13.279
<v Speaker 1>I've seen Draymond wearing it was crazy because we had

0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:15.799
<v Speaker 1>to feel more five. That's what we were. We were

0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:17.880
<v Speaker 1>in the streets of San Francisco doing it. We shouldn't

0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:21.759
<v Speaker 1>do that. And then you guys are the Hampton five.

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 1>You guys are a little more studious. It was because

0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I was very smarter than we were. But when I

0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:28.520
<v Speaker 1>got a chance to play, you know, I said, I

0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>briefly got a chance to come back and play with

0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:32.439
<v Speaker 1>you guys. Like the love out there for that team

0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:35.160
<v Speaker 1>and when we had built was crazy, you know what

0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean. And then you were huge and and always

0:56:37.360 --> 0:56:39.160
<v Speaker 1>honor in our team. And then I remember the year

0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:41.720
<v Speaker 1>we we I want to champion you guys in seventeen,

0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:43.759
<v Speaker 1>like you wore the we Believe warm up shirts. So

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:46.040
<v Speaker 1>you guys, you guys always showed loving it. It was

0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:48.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of assembled what Oakland in the Bayery. It was

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:50.520
<v Speaker 1>like as a whole because they always paid homage, like

0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:53.160
<v Speaker 1>it was crazy. The love they showed in those fans,

0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:54.640
<v Speaker 1>how much they appreciate that. I said, I won the

0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:57.360
<v Speaker 1>championship with San Antonio, but the Wars organization is the

0:56:57.400 --> 0:56:59.239
<v Speaker 1>only team that made me feel like family. Every year

0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:00.880
<v Speaker 1>they bring me back, made me feel like made me

0:57:01.000 --> 0:57:02.880
<v Speaker 1>feel like they appreciate what I've done my time. Then

0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:05.440
<v Speaker 1>that's the only team That've done in my career. It's crazy, man,

0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:08.960
<v Speaker 1>it's great. Shout out the War down and they got pictures,

0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:10.359
<v Speaker 1>they got some pictures. I was up in the north.

0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:15.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a whole journey. But like, do we believe and

0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:20.520
<v Speaker 1>in our in our championship run, that's dominance, So we

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:22.920
<v Speaker 1>gotta go check it out there. We got to the

0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:25.560
<v Speaker 1>last thing on Oracle. What was your most fondest memory

0:57:25.680 --> 0:57:30.560
<v Speaker 1>or best game that comes to mind? Um? There? Uh,

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think most probably winning the the finals

0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:44.000
<v Speaker 1>there and celebrating with all the fans like we had

0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:45.800
<v Speaker 1>been waiting a whole year to have that, because we

0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 1>had two opportunities to do it the year before and

0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and got beat and the next year we got it done.

0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:56.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, celebrate where you win home. We went at

0:57:56.160 --> 0:58:00.120
<v Speaker 1>home from our game six. Was not like when when

0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:01.800
<v Speaker 1>they wanted that's how it was celebrated at the house.

0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I felt like, I felt like we wanted a warrior,

0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:08.040
<v Speaker 1>but I'm a warrior. I saw so like just watching

0:58:08.080 --> 0:58:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the clock run down, just seeing all our fans stick around.

0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Fatty was driving and put the stage down, like all

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:16.600
<v Speaker 1>our families are out there and you just celebrating the championship.

0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:19.120
<v Speaker 1>But you and your home venue like the town. Yeah,

0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:21.880
<v Speaker 1>but the town. I wanted to wear my jersey out

0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:27.280
<v Speaker 1>of there, artest ship. And you couldn't tell my kids

0:58:27.360 --> 0:58:30.160
<v Speaker 1>they weren't on the team. They were holding trying to

0:58:30.240 --> 0:58:32.240
<v Speaker 1>hold steps trophy, trying to hold the m v P

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:34.080
<v Speaker 1>like they were in the mix of kids and something.

0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:35.680
<v Speaker 1>People hit me up like, Yo, yourselths are all over

0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:38.000
<v Speaker 1>ESPN like they were upfront, like you would have thought

0:58:38.000 --> 0:58:39.640
<v Speaker 1>they were steph kids. We gotta salute you with that

0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:43.400
<v Speaker 1>bad for getting them both rings. Like what I'm saying, like,

0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:45.200
<v Speaker 1>we gotta salute you for that. You know what I'm saying, Dad,

0:58:45.240 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 1>We gotta give your props. We don't get you while

0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you still here. I did as much as they did

0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:51.000
<v Speaker 1>in the playoff front, but I appreciate that your sons

0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:52.520
<v Speaker 1>probably played more than That's what I just said I

0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:55.200
<v Speaker 1>did as much as the twin. I was hurt though.

0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I have the fund up part though, because I finally

0:58:57.200 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 1>get a chance. Like my whole thing is I took

0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:00.560
<v Speaker 1>less money to win, and I in the sit where

0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I can win, so that I come in because Katie

0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 1>gets hurt, you know, play well and then the game

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Katie comes back, like I almost break my ankle, So

0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, a right funk, I gotta hurry. If can

0:59:08.480 --> 0:59:10.200
<v Speaker 1>get this ankle, he want to play that, I'm gonna

0:59:10.200 --> 0:59:12.800
<v Speaker 1>win a championship. So for me, like when I tell

0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:14.640
<v Speaker 1>people the story in the seting with the seventeen stuff,

0:59:14.680 --> 0:59:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't really count the ring because I was someone

0:59:17.080 --> 0:59:18.640
<v Speaker 1>who always I had to get out the mud, you know.

0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:20.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so I wasn't out here fighting with these guys.

0:59:20.480 --> 0:59:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I was in and out Patrick all three of his

0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:26.600
<v Speaker 1>you got to count. It is different. It's different going

0:59:26.680 --> 0:59:30.480
<v Speaker 1>to shine the same. Your name is on that roster.

0:59:30.720 --> 0:59:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I think when they say NBA champions, when they introduced

0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:35.880
<v Speaker 1>me and you want ship, they say two NBA champions

0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:38.680
<v Speaker 1>out of here, that should county. I don't want to

0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:40.600
<v Speaker 1>hear that. You think Ray still got my I got

0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:42.800
<v Speaker 1>a truck right down and get my ring because I

0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:45.720
<v Speaker 1>left it at the thing because I wait, what when

0:59:45.760 --> 0:59:47.480
<v Speaker 1>they came in introduced it to me, they had locked

0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:49.760
<v Speaker 1>it up before they locked it up during the game.

0:59:49.840 --> 0:59:59.160
<v Speaker 1>For me, it's only one we know who is right

0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:02.400
<v Speaker 1>from Oakland. He got locked out. You got a locked

1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:07.439
<v Speaker 1>down transitioning um, meeting your wife at fifteen and having

1:00:07.560 --> 1:00:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a public relate. We had d Wade and we spoke

1:00:09.560 --> 1:00:13.320
<v Speaker 1>to d Wade. Uh, you know about a public relationship

1:00:13.360 --> 1:00:15.400
<v Speaker 1>and your wife is obviously blazing her own path. But

1:00:15.480 --> 1:00:18.000
<v Speaker 1>tell me what that's like. You know, obviously a childhood

1:00:18.080 --> 1:00:20.920
<v Speaker 1>love that's transitioned into a beautiful marriage with the family

1:00:21.440 --> 1:00:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and kind of the prototypical like this is like the

1:00:24.520 --> 1:00:27.320
<v Speaker 1>new family that the curries, or you know, a power movement,

1:00:29.080 --> 1:00:31.680
<v Speaker 1>which is wild to say because I'm just living my life. Man.

1:00:31.920 --> 1:00:34.120
<v Speaker 1>You know you saw that, you know you saw on Instagram.

1:00:34.440 --> 1:00:36.000
<v Speaker 1>But to get you, I used to care. But to

1:00:36.040 --> 1:00:37.600
<v Speaker 1>get you, I used to care. I thought you saw

1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:39.400
<v Speaker 1>that all over Instagram. Know I had to feel good.

1:00:39.600 --> 1:00:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I got anyone man, like you got one. But it's weird.

1:00:45.480 --> 1:00:48.440
<v Speaker 1>It's wild because like I was talking about as as

1:00:49.320 --> 1:00:51.320
<v Speaker 1>my dad and my mom, how they raised us her

1:00:51.440 --> 1:00:54.200
<v Speaker 1>her parents are saying, like, there's always perspective, right, And

1:00:54.240 --> 1:00:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I grew up in the NBA, but I was just

1:00:56.640 --> 1:01:00.840
<v Speaker 1>a kid man, and I had a really cool child experience.

1:01:00.960 --> 1:01:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Like fifteen, I meets We don't we're out dating high school,

1:01:04.080 --> 1:01:06.960
<v Speaker 1>but um, you know, we talked a little bit. And

1:01:08.320 --> 1:01:12.400
<v Speaker 1>fast forward with four years. I'm out in l A

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<v Speaker 1>at the s p's because uh we just went to

1:01:15.280 --> 1:01:18.800
<v Speaker 1>our terment, run and me and this is me and

1:01:18.880 --> 1:01:20.600
<v Speaker 1>my dad flying from Charlotte. I've never been to l

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<v Speaker 1>A before. I here for the s I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, I remembers. I remember she moved out here

1:01:27.080 --> 1:01:28.880
<v Speaker 1>because she was out here pursuing acting. So she had

1:01:28.920 --> 1:01:30.520
<v Speaker 1>graduate from high school and came right out here to

1:01:30.560 --> 1:01:32.680
<v Speaker 1>pursue acting. But we weren't talking at all. So I

1:01:32.760 --> 1:01:33.800
<v Speaker 1>hit her up and I was like, Hey, I'm out

1:01:33.800 --> 1:01:35.840
<v Speaker 1>in l A like chilling whatever, Like you gotta show

1:01:35.880 --> 1:01:37.960
<v Speaker 1>me arounds. Ain't never been out here before. So we

1:01:38.080 --> 1:01:41.320
<v Speaker 1>reconnected then, and like a couple of months later, she

1:01:41.400 --> 1:01:43.640
<v Speaker 1>had moved back to Charlotte and I'm still at Davidson,

1:01:43.680 --> 1:01:45.680
<v Speaker 1>which was like thirty thirty minutes away, so we got

1:01:45.760 --> 1:01:48.880
<v Speaker 1>to kind of keep it going um. And from there,

1:01:48.960 --> 1:01:52.160
<v Speaker 1>like we were just two kids just enjoying life together

1:01:52.280 --> 1:01:55.840
<v Speaker 1>and not really normal was about to happen. Um. And

1:01:56.040 --> 1:01:58.440
<v Speaker 1>when I get to the league, like again, I'm just

1:01:58.520 --> 1:02:01.880
<v Speaker 1>living my life. As as the spotlight starts to grow

1:02:01.920 --> 1:02:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and all that you're dealt with judgments and expectations and

1:02:07.360 --> 1:02:09.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody just wants to know every step you take and

1:02:09.240 --> 1:02:11.240
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. And it's kind of uncomfortable at times

1:02:11.320 --> 1:02:15.200
<v Speaker 1>because as human as you react to stuff like stuff

1:02:15.240 --> 1:02:18.520
<v Speaker 1>that said about you and your family and all that

1:02:18.600 --> 1:02:20.880
<v Speaker 1>type of stuff, and and the personally is like you

1:02:20.920 --> 1:02:22.280
<v Speaker 1>want to take it a stride and like you don't

1:02:22.280 --> 1:02:25.160
<v Speaker 1>want to react to everything because you'll lose your mind. Um,

1:02:25.400 --> 1:02:28.280
<v Speaker 1>But you want to protect the integrity of relationship we started,

1:02:28.400 --> 1:02:32.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, way back when. So it'sn't ever changing kind

1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:36.240
<v Speaker 1>of thing for us. Because even as you bring kids

1:02:36.280 --> 1:02:37.560
<v Speaker 1>in this world, like how are you going to raise

1:02:37.640 --> 1:02:39.800
<v Speaker 1>them with this spotlight as well? And keep their minds

1:02:39.960 --> 1:02:42.120
<v Speaker 1>right direction and give them perspective and give them a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to have a quote unquote normal childhood and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of responsibilities, but God, don't make no

1:02:48.800 --> 1:02:52.560
<v Speaker 1>mistakes man. For me and and her, like I think

1:02:52.600 --> 1:02:56.640
<v Speaker 1>we we appreciate the ability to inspire and impact people

1:02:56.680 --> 1:02:59.200
<v Speaker 1>because of our relationship. Like that's if we can do it.

1:02:59.360 --> 1:03:01.439
<v Speaker 1>Like we're not afect, got ups and downs and there's

1:03:01.480 --> 1:03:04.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna be you know, challenges and like every other relationship

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<v Speaker 1>in this in this in this world. But um, if

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<v Speaker 1>we can kind of persevere through all that stuff, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we can be an inspiration expectation. Feel like what it

1:03:13.760 --> 1:03:16.360
<v Speaker 1>means to to find somebody you want to share life with.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't wanta get too sappy, but like that's real, real,

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<v Speaker 1>it's real, right, and it's rare too, especially in our profession,

1:03:21.600 --> 1:03:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, so I think it's dope. The example you

1:03:23.040 --> 1:03:25.000
<v Speaker 1>guys said, it's amazing, So I'm trying to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>You look me forever to find him, but you did

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<v Speaker 1>mean only eight kids, seven kids later, he's still looking.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude though, you're a very proud father, you know, your

1:03:37.800 --> 1:03:41.280
<v Speaker 1>daughters or your world when you finally got that little boy. Wow,

1:03:41.880 --> 1:03:47.880
<v Speaker 1>it's what that's like, man. He is something lighter skin

1:03:48.680 --> 1:03:53.480
<v Speaker 1>saying come out shooting from he You're gonna come out shot, Kenny.

1:03:55.760 --> 1:03:58.360
<v Speaker 1>You got you got it locked and loaded in the

1:03:58.440 --> 1:04:07.200
<v Speaker 1>diaper right now. He's seventeen months. Man, he's he's unbelievable.

1:04:07.440 --> 1:04:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Uh named after my my granddad was Cannon Wardelle Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my granddad's name. And so uh he's the

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<v Speaker 1>first real boy and neither side. Uh first boy grand baby.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's he's spoiled, rotten. Uh, but he's unbelievable. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cool to see our old two older girls

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<v Speaker 1>liked not just be about them anymore. And and and

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<v Speaker 1>uh they what low key? I feel like I just

1:04:32.800 --> 1:04:36.720
<v Speaker 1>met him. My wife, My wife is holding him hostage

1:04:36.800 --> 1:04:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the whole first year. Now the girls got a hold

1:04:38.920 --> 1:04:41.680
<v Speaker 1>of him, like Cannon, I'm over here. Man, that's kind

1:04:41.720 --> 1:04:44.000
<v Speaker 1>of looking like when when you get five and get

1:04:44.040 --> 1:04:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the gym on that ball told him, you know, he's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we blessed seven four and one, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>that's amazing ages right now coming into that little personality, Dope,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm enjoying it. It's like crazy thing, just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, taking a kiss of the game, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I gotta take my son and say

1:05:06.160 --> 1:05:07.880
<v Speaker 1>him on the bench and my dad was there next

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<v Speaker 1>to him, and like just thinking about like that used

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<v Speaker 1>to be me, man, Yeah, that part of it still

1:05:12.800 --> 1:05:14.880
<v Speaker 1>was crazy. We'll talk to on your girls too, because

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<v Speaker 1>off camera you told us that they designed these shoes

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<v Speaker 1>right here, put them up on the table. Jack putting

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<v Speaker 1>the Jordan's up on the table. Tell us, tell us

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<v Speaker 1>about the man inspiration through the girls. Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 1>uh I gave I gave Riley she's seven, that I

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<v Speaker 1>gave her and her sister and Ryan who's four, the

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<v Speaker 1>cat drawings to the you know these shoes. It's probably

1:05:33.520 --> 1:05:36.520
<v Speaker 1>what a year ago, so these were just in the makings.

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<v Speaker 1>And told her you just go, Daddy's gonna make a

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<v Speaker 1>new shoe, but I want you to design it. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you should see the focus on the first bro.

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<v Speaker 1>She when you put a task and fund, she took

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<v Speaker 1>the took the drawing and got the crayons out and

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<v Speaker 1>just went to work. And uh I told her to

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<v Speaker 1>make like a bunch of different options and then bring

1:05:58.080 --> 1:05:59.880
<v Speaker 1>me what her favorite one was. So I only stick

1:05:59.920 --> 1:06:02.760
<v Speaker 1>to the first one. Like just let lew when we

1:06:02.800 --> 1:06:05.040
<v Speaker 1>went through this whole process. Man, she she did it

1:06:05.120 --> 1:06:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and you a put it together. I got the Riley specials,

1:06:09.520 --> 1:06:12.280
<v Speaker 1>the draft. He asked Cheetah girls like she just started

1:06:12.280 --> 1:06:14.960
<v Speaker 1>watching it. It's crazy. Now we got to bring back

1:06:15.000 --> 1:06:17.160
<v Speaker 1>all old shows, like the shows we used to grow

1:06:17.240 --> 1:06:19.200
<v Speaker 1>up on. I'm not saying I grew up cheata girls,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Another bring like showing up.

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<v Speaker 1>We watched Home Alone, the first one we just want

1:06:26.000 --> 1:06:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the other night with the fan They're like, what is this?

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<v Speaker 1>But they loved it. The Yeah, all the classics, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's we get to relive out you a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>and tell me what is I mean? Think about it

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<v Speaker 1>while we're talking about shoes, mid major out of Davidson

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<v Speaker 1>and then you come out change the face of the

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<v Speaker 1>game and you got your own shoes, Like tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of dream? And this run has been like

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<v Speaker 1>for you, like you know, you know you're the light

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<v Speaker 1>skin of sass, like you change the NBA. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>believe that can ye done to the game? I can't

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<v Speaker 1>because I grew up watching them. And um, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>the first pair of signature shoes I had. I had

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<v Speaker 1>some shocks, like besides of Georgan's, I had some shocks

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<v Speaker 1>and that was the ones I used to rock in

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<v Speaker 1>the games all the time in high school. And like

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about uh being a position where seventh going on

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<v Speaker 1>a shoe and represent the brand like like you A

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<v Speaker 1>and and the team and changing the game like all

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<v Speaker 1>that type of stuff. It's just crazy because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you ever have time to stop. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I should, Like, you don't have time to stop

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<v Speaker 1>and just think about it all perspective because you're still

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<v Speaker 1>on that chase in the moment. Uh. It's it's crazy, man.

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<v Speaker 1>The coolest part like when you're walking down the street

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere and you see, uh, you know, somebody rocking your

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<v Speaker 1>kicks like you. I just want to know, like why,

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<v Speaker 1>like why are you connect with it or why do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to rock them? Like? I know they hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>make you shoot better, but it's like that part of

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<v Speaker 1>people connect to see your story. You want to rock

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<v Speaker 1>your gear? That's crazy. I heard. I was listening to

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<v Speaker 1>his podcasts the other day. You can get let with

1:07:53.600 --> 1:07:57.120
<v Speaker 1>two pair of these for that. I heard, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about the shoes. I said, you might get

1:07:59.280 --> 1:08:03.800
<v Speaker 1>pay about two three? How you get that? Lets you

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<v Speaker 1>know that, you bro, that's a good one. But that's

1:08:08.880 --> 1:08:11.440
<v Speaker 1>a funny story. I remember what you know. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Twins so much because they really funk

1:08:13.240 --> 1:08:14.760
<v Speaker 1>with you. But I remember when I was playing for

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers. Then it was career day and one twin

1:08:18.439 --> 1:08:20.519
<v Speaker 1>came out with my jersey and one twin came out

1:08:20.560 --> 1:08:23.200
<v Speaker 1>with step jersey. Is like, Dad, I'm sorry, and people like, oh,

1:08:23.240 --> 1:08:24.880
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't. Like I was like, I can't be made

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<v Speaker 1>like Steph. I mean, come on, man, it's Steff, you

1:08:27.120 --> 1:08:28.439
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. So I think it's dope to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to Like I said, what what you mean

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<v Speaker 1>to this next generation is really mad? Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about the game you change, but like I

1:08:36.080 --> 1:08:39.360
<v Speaker 1>coached the next generation and you're the guy. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Like I said, it's handling and learning

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<v Speaker 1>how to shoot, you know, man, So it's really hatsoft

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<v Speaker 1>really what you've been able to accomplish up to this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Although the stories still you know, plenty of plenty more

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<v Speaker 1>to write. You've been able to do a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>this space. Man, we appreciate you as hey. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>Ai his top five players of all time. He said,

1:08:57.479 --> 1:09:00.479
<v Speaker 1>you like that. You know it's funny. I have that

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<v Speaker 1>saved on my phone because that that's that's so that's

1:09:04.040 --> 1:09:05.960
<v Speaker 1>like I talked to all the time. We tell because

1:09:06.560 --> 1:09:09.280
<v Speaker 1>like ten times through the conversation. But like for him

1:09:10.040 --> 1:09:13.639
<v Speaker 1>to say that, it's crazy right, like I'm never gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get never I ain't ever have a big head where

1:09:16.200 --> 1:09:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you like that, dude, I I picked up a lot

1:09:19.960 --> 1:09:22.679
<v Speaker 1>of the game and inspiration from that. He's now looking

1:09:22.720 --> 1:09:25.680
<v Speaker 1>at my game like, yo, he's my one of my

1:09:25.800 --> 1:09:28.519
<v Speaker 1>favorite PG. Like that's for him to say that. At

1:09:28.560 --> 1:09:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the same way, like he said, there's so much love

1:09:31.160 --> 1:09:33.000
<v Speaker 1>for me as well, and in the spirit of the

1:09:33.200 --> 1:09:36.000
<v Speaker 1>times where we know, like some o gs they don't

1:09:36.040 --> 1:09:42.640
<v Speaker 1>want to relinquish the and that part of it, like

1:09:42.720 --> 1:09:44.800
<v Speaker 1>when you see the guys actually like the same way

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<v Speaker 1>we respect the os like we wanted both ways. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you do hear that, that means that means something, man,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, up man um, I heard a rumor that

1:09:55.080 --> 1:09:57.400
<v Speaker 1>your mom finds you a hundred dollars for every three turners.

1:09:57.520 --> 1:10:00.200
<v Speaker 1>That true, it was anything. Yeah, three turners. I had

1:10:00.200 --> 1:10:02.600
<v Speaker 1>to give a hundred dollars and so she got a

1:10:02.680 --> 1:10:07.519
<v Speaker 1>lot of handbags. Let's put it crazy and she'll be

1:10:07.640 --> 1:10:09.519
<v Speaker 1>up there like you be yelling at me, but she'd

1:10:09.560 --> 1:10:11.160
<v Speaker 1>be mad happy. At the same time, he's coming into

1:10:11.200 --> 1:10:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I need hundred I need stephree more turnovers tonight and

1:10:15.080 --> 1:10:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get this bad. Yeah, there's a lot of

1:10:20.160 --> 1:10:23.000
<v Speaker 1>sports be over there with my assist turnover ratio and

1:10:23.120 --> 1:10:31.519
<v Speaker 1>she's like, but I'm enjoying it too. Explain your your

1:10:31.560 --> 1:10:34.280
<v Speaker 1>relationship with Nipsey. Obviously, you know he was someone I

1:10:34.360 --> 1:10:37.280
<v Speaker 1>looked up to, admire, got to be friend and come

1:10:37.320 --> 1:10:39.240
<v Speaker 1>close to, you know, to us, he's a legend. He's

1:10:39.280 --> 1:10:41.920
<v Speaker 1>on the wall. Tell us what your relationship Like. I

1:10:42.000 --> 1:10:43.400
<v Speaker 1>talked to Jay Rock the day, so he said, what

1:10:43.560 --> 1:10:47.680
<v Speaker 1>up to I mean, I I got to know him

1:10:47.920 --> 1:10:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the year before he passed, and uh, he came on

1:10:50.360 --> 1:10:53.240
<v Speaker 1>my five Minutes from Home show to time ez day

1:10:53.280 --> 1:10:55.120
<v Speaker 1>that came up to the bay. You know, we hopped

1:10:55.120 --> 1:10:57.360
<v Speaker 1>in the back of the sprinter and like part of

1:10:57.439 --> 1:10:59.400
<v Speaker 1>that film and it's usually only takes like an hour

1:10:59.479 --> 1:11:01.439
<v Speaker 1>to get you know, the footage. You have a good

1:11:01.479 --> 1:11:03.639
<v Speaker 1>conversation all that. Like I feel like I was talking

1:11:03.680 --> 1:11:07.120
<v Speaker 1>to him for way longer than that, just because of

1:11:07.200 --> 1:11:09.519
<v Speaker 1>how real he was and his perspective on life, and

1:11:10.479 --> 1:11:13.240
<v Speaker 1>like the way he talked about his daughter and raising

1:11:13.280 --> 1:11:16.200
<v Speaker 1>her and his relationship with Lauren, like all that type

1:11:16.240 --> 1:11:19.519
<v Speaker 1>of stuff was just real. And obviously his music, you know,

1:11:19.720 --> 1:11:22.920
<v Speaker 1>it stands for herself. But um, you have God in

1:11:22.960 --> 1:11:25.519
<v Speaker 1>the spotlight that you know, it has a story and

1:11:26.040 --> 1:11:28.040
<v Speaker 1>has a journey and is able to turn that into

1:11:28.240 --> 1:11:31.000
<v Speaker 1>inspiration you know, beyond any probably anything he imagined. But

1:11:31.120 --> 1:11:33.280
<v Speaker 1>the way that he carries himself speaks about more than

1:11:33.360 --> 1:11:36.080
<v Speaker 1>anything that he does and the work that he does

1:11:36.120 --> 1:11:37.960
<v Speaker 1>in the community and all that type of stuff that

1:11:38.560 --> 1:11:40.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, his legacy is gonna live on forever. Um.

1:11:41.439 --> 1:11:45.679
<v Speaker 1>But it's just like I was. It shook me because

1:11:45.720 --> 1:11:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I just I literally just met him and you know,

1:11:48.080 --> 1:11:51.320
<v Speaker 1>you you appreciate people like that that have an impact

1:11:51.400 --> 1:11:54.439
<v Speaker 1>on you. Um. But I'm sure somewhere you felt like

1:11:54.479 --> 1:11:56.920
<v Speaker 1>you knew him forever because that's how open, real and

1:11:57.080 --> 1:12:00.880
<v Speaker 1>raw he is. It's like, it's exactly why I watched

1:12:00.920 --> 1:12:03.080
<v Speaker 1>that episode. I've watched it probably five or six times

1:12:03.120 --> 1:12:06.000
<v Speaker 1>since since, uh, since you did, because there's so many

1:12:06.040 --> 1:12:08.800
<v Speaker 1>gyms in there from him in terms of yeah all

1:12:08.880 --> 1:12:12.760
<v Speaker 1>the time. Um, anyway, he speaks just us approachable like you.

1:12:13.200 --> 1:12:15.200
<v Speaker 1>He takes you on a journey to like you can

1:12:15.240 --> 1:12:18.320
<v Speaker 1>tell like the's authentic and and that that part of

1:12:18.360 --> 1:12:21.439
<v Speaker 1>it is uh and special, so you know, to his

1:12:21.520 --> 1:12:24.799
<v Speaker 1>family and all that, Um, you know, I know everybody

1:12:24.840 --> 1:12:27.760
<v Speaker 1>has the back and and uh, the legacy he leaves,

1:12:27.840 --> 1:12:29.640
<v Speaker 1>we we all have to carry it right, you know,

1:12:29.800 --> 1:12:31.760
<v Speaker 1>you know all you know a special unique way. So

1:12:32.080 --> 1:12:35.280
<v Speaker 1>with them rest in peace. Now we saw that you

1:12:35.360 --> 1:12:38.519
<v Speaker 1>attended Kanye Sunday Service. What was that like? Please tell

1:12:38.600 --> 1:12:41.519
<v Speaker 1>me what that was like? Was? I absolutely loved it? Bro?

1:12:41.920 --> 1:12:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Like the Sunday Service is for I don't I don't

1:12:47.280 --> 1:12:51.160
<v Speaker 1>put this one. I don't care somebody's passed. You know

1:12:51.760 --> 1:12:54.559
<v Speaker 1>what they stand for, Like you cannot agree with somebody,

1:12:55.400 --> 1:12:58.280
<v Speaker 1>um and in any and everything that they say. But

1:12:58.439 --> 1:13:02.800
<v Speaker 1>when they come in and I think it's when they

1:13:02.880 --> 1:13:05.360
<v Speaker 1>come in and represent Jesus and they're talking and everything

1:13:05.400 --> 1:13:07.479
<v Speaker 1>that they do and the music and the vibe and

1:13:07.520 --> 1:13:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the spirit that that that you feel in that place,

1:13:09.439 --> 1:13:11.800
<v Speaker 1>like it was it did something to me, like in

1:13:12.000 --> 1:13:14.240
<v Speaker 1>terms of you know that what two and a half

1:13:14.280 --> 1:13:19.080
<v Speaker 1>hour you know experience and so, um, I'm rooting for him, man,

1:13:19.320 --> 1:13:22.080
<v Speaker 1>like I'm rooting for him in terms of what he's doing,

1:13:22.160 --> 1:13:27.320
<v Speaker 1>the journey that he's on. Um, you know, if if

1:13:27.479 --> 1:13:29.920
<v Speaker 1>if he can change or you can believe that that

1:13:30.320 --> 1:13:32.559
<v Speaker 1>that's positive to anybody can that's and I'm not going

1:13:32.600 --> 1:13:35.920
<v Speaker 1>to discredit you know, my God and that in that respect,

1:13:36.040 --> 1:13:38.760
<v Speaker 1>And so I was I was curious about because I

1:13:39.520 --> 1:13:42.000
<v Speaker 1>heard so many people go on and and just you know,

1:13:42.160 --> 1:13:46.559
<v Speaker 1>the the choir or the collective you know their name,

1:13:46.680 --> 1:13:49.400
<v Speaker 1>and with Kanye and just from his album and all

1:13:49.439 --> 1:13:52.240
<v Speaker 1>that type of stuff, like I wanted to experience and

1:13:52.280 --> 1:13:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I had a great time. Man, it was it was

1:13:55.000 --> 1:13:58.360
<v Speaker 1>legit him. That's one thing Jack says, you know, we

1:13:58.640 --> 1:14:01.040
<v Speaker 1>we don't have to always agree with what Ione saying. Well,

1:14:01.080 --> 1:14:03.280
<v Speaker 1>we'll keep that line of respect, you know. I mean,

1:14:03.360 --> 1:14:05.519
<v Speaker 1>I think just in culture today at the disrespect is

1:14:05.840 --> 1:14:07.519
<v Speaker 1>you have to sit down and have a conversation too.

1:14:08.040 --> 1:14:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Like that just the normal part of his Yeah, being

1:14:10.960 --> 1:14:14.080
<v Speaker 1>able to open that door and have some actual progress,

1:14:14.120 --> 1:14:15.720
<v Speaker 1>because if not, we're just gonna sit on the other

1:14:15.760 --> 1:14:17.240
<v Speaker 1>side of line and just yell at each other the

1:14:17.280 --> 1:14:20.120
<v Speaker 1>whole time, or like Cash Judgment to talk you know,

1:14:20.240 --> 1:14:22.680
<v Speaker 1>some trash about you and nothing's gonna happen. So for

1:14:22.840 --> 1:14:24.960
<v Speaker 1>him to put himself out there too, that's the thing

1:14:25.040 --> 1:14:28.120
<v Speaker 1>for me, Like, that's huge. So I'm rooting for what

1:14:28.240 --> 1:14:29.840
<v Speaker 1>are you listening to or right now? With the top

1:14:29.880 --> 1:14:39.040
<v Speaker 1>five artists? M hmm. I still write with Loup at fiasco. Hush, Uh,

1:14:41.160 --> 1:14:44.760
<v Speaker 1>what's crazy? He's from Charlotte to the Baby is he?

1:14:49.080 --> 1:14:50.880
<v Speaker 1>And I knew? I know high school. He went to

1:14:51.040 --> 1:14:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Advanced high school and all that right, a couple of

1:14:54.720 --> 1:14:57.000
<v Speaker 1>miles from where I grew up. I ain't ever met

1:14:57.080 --> 1:14:59.880
<v Speaker 1>him wherever he's at, I ain't never met you. Moment,

1:15:00.000 --> 1:15:04.280
<v Speaker 1>gotta go do something, man, seven o four is we

1:15:04.439 --> 1:15:06.560
<v Speaker 1>were like doing things right. I can't believe you have

1:15:06.640 --> 1:15:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the man. I know, it's crazy. That's on both of us.

1:15:08.920 --> 1:15:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean from here now. Once you meet Steph, just

1:15:10.840 --> 1:15:15.679
<v Speaker 1>come fun with our podcast The Baby all the Year. Yeah,

1:15:16.320 --> 1:15:20.400
<v Speaker 1>but uh, and then I got I got Christian artists

1:15:20.439 --> 1:15:22.160
<v Speaker 1>and do listen, I would see the Baby and all that.

1:15:22.280 --> 1:15:25.559
<v Speaker 1>Let's just do a name tarn Wells, Christian artists, Christian artists,

1:15:26.560 --> 1:15:29.960
<v Speaker 1>tarn Wills. You might not. You gotta take a chance.

1:15:30.000 --> 1:15:33.439
<v Speaker 1>It's just a different, different, different. I listened to a

1:15:33.439 --> 1:15:35.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of the Gospels, so I would I'll check it out.

1:15:35.439 --> 1:15:37.479
<v Speaker 1>It's a little, a little in the New Age. He

1:15:37.520 --> 1:15:39.639
<v Speaker 1>got some flavor. And then you got a friendship with Drake.

1:15:40.200 --> 1:15:44.320
<v Speaker 1>What's that like? It's it's all over the place because

1:15:44.360 --> 1:15:52.519
<v Speaker 1>we was like because brother, honestly Uh, it's crazy because

1:15:52.960 --> 1:15:56.040
<v Speaker 1>obviously it started from the first name dropping hit with

1:15:56.160 --> 1:15:59.360
<v Speaker 1>the chef Curry with the pot right, and uh, I

1:15:59.439 --> 1:16:04.760
<v Speaker 1>think I think was like but from there we have

1:16:04.960 --> 1:16:07.600
<v Speaker 1>some connections on and both of our families. Asha his

1:16:07.720 --> 1:16:10.439
<v Speaker 1>cousin as part of O your crew and and uh

1:16:11.040 --> 1:16:13.519
<v Speaker 1>and so we spent a lot of time together. And

1:16:14.160 --> 1:16:16.760
<v Speaker 1>does he has your number tattoo on it? Yeah? Yeah

1:16:17.960 --> 1:16:21.559
<v Speaker 1>with the halo. I think, yeah, that's like the one

1:16:21.560 --> 1:16:23.680
<v Speaker 1>are you talk to him about? That is like him

1:16:23.720 --> 1:16:26.599
<v Speaker 1>respecting greatness all across the board, whether it's some people

1:16:26.640 --> 1:16:28.760
<v Speaker 1>that he just he always tattoos me, it's me and

1:16:28.880 --> 1:16:31.360
<v Speaker 1>something so like it's nothing corny about it's literally like

1:16:31.520 --> 1:16:35.920
<v Speaker 1>when you appreciate some Um, that's that's that's that's love.

1:16:36.040 --> 1:16:40.839
<v Speaker 1>So last year was fun because the whole Toronto connection

1:16:40.880 --> 1:16:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and all of him talking trash from the court. Um,

1:16:43.120 --> 1:16:46.680
<v Speaker 1>he was talking to me, Draymond. Everybody's good for basketball. Yeah, man,

1:16:47.240 --> 1:16:48.759
<v Speaker 1>I ain't a lot. There's a lot of talk about

1:16:49.160 --> 1:16:52.160
<v Speaker 1>him with his antics and stuff in the side he

1:16:52.240 --> 1:16:53.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't do the owner of the team, and he was

1:16:54.000 --> 1:16:56.120
<v Speaker 1>passionate about what's going on here and like that's getting

1:16:56.160 --> 1:16:59.240
<v Speaker 1>everybody going and it's raising the popularity game as long

1:16:59.240 --> 1:17:01.880
<v Speaker 1>as he ain't interfering with the actual game, right what

1:17:02.040 --> 1:17:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you want? Yeah, he ain't gonna do that, so uh

1:17:05.320 --> 1:17:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I called him after the finals. I was hot, I

1:17:07.320 --> 1:17:10.800
<v Speaker 1>was reason old all or no. I was just mad

1:17:10.880 --> 1:17:14.160
<v Speaker 1>because we lost. But I was trying to like congratulate

1:17:14.200 --> 1:17:22.840
<v Speaker 1>because I'm not hurt. Hurt, goddamn it, congratulates. I'm over

1:17:23.120 --> 1:17:31.640
<v Speaker 1>laugh crying. Like it was fun. It was fun. He

1:17:31.720 --> 1:17:33.640
<v Speaker 1>shows love all the time, So tell me what it's

1:17:33.680 --> 1:17:36.280
<v Speaker 1>like when he started hearing like being dropped in songs,

1:17:36.360 --> 1:17:38.400
<v Speaker 1>like with different artists dropping your name the song. What

1:17:38.520 --> 1:17:41.840
<v Speaker 1>was that like? It was fun, man, because anywhere you go,

1:17:42.080 --> 1:17:44.000
<v Speaker 1>like the people you hear that, they wouldn't call your

1:17:44.080 --> 1:17:51.880
<v Speaker 1>name no more. But um so, I can't keep a

1:17:51.960 --> 1:17:53.720
<v Speaker 1>tab on how many times has happened since then. But

1:17:53.800 --> 1:17:57.240
<v Speaker 1>that was like the first one that actually you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, change the change, change that. That's a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh my favorite one that was hilarious. Cardi b got

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<v Speaker 1>the one with me and she's like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get married, like the Curry Stephanisha barely Tommy Keh Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's my favorite joint. That's one of my biggest

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<v Speaker 1>songs to ye before we get out of here. We

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<v Speaker 1>got a couple of quick hitters. Um all time, you're

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<v Speaker 1>starting five all time. Clude yourself if you want. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you asked me right now, that asked me what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>done playing? But right now, Oh, that's crazy. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've answers before. I'm probably gonna have a different, different

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<v Speaker 1>start in life. So we go, Magic Michael Larry uh

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<v Speaker 1>wait shock, let me make sure I got my positions,

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<v Speaker 1>Magic PG Michael shooting guard Larry small forward ain't powerful?

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Duncan, of course, how can you not? Yeah the name?

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<v Speaker 1>Give me three of the most underrated players you played against? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that question? Most underrated question Mike Conley, Drew Holiday,

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<v Speaker 1>jew Holiday, Seth Curry, Seth Curry, I like that? Like

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<v Speaker 1>what's that like? You know? I mean because you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you took the small road school road and

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<v Speaker 1>became a superstar. He took the you know, major school

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's taking him a while, but he started

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<v Speaker 1>to find his footing. But what's crazy about Seth is

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<v Speaker 1>like a step before. Dude, he was at Liberty University.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that most Bury Virginia and he played

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<v Speaker 1>his freshman year there. I think they're like the Big

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<v Speaker 1>South Conference. He was leading the hes A nation as

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<v Speaker 1>a freshman scoring and the team started playing like crazy

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<v Speaker 1>Jankee defense againting against him because it's his teammate. The

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<v Speaker 1>town on the on the squad was was okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was just trying to take him out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, I can't get better here if they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna play box and one or triangling to on me

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<v Speaker 1>in the old games. So he proved himself at Liberty.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach k came calling, so he transferred. The Duke played

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<v Speaker 1>there for the three years um and he had an

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<v Speaker 1>injury a senior year, he had some uh shin fractures,

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<v Speaker 1>so he missed the whole draft process pre draft process.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't get drafted and had to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>D League at the time of the G League route

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<v Speaker 1>and for him like to have like the crazy ups

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<v Speaker 1>and downs like small D one school duke G League

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<v Speaker 1>back to getting some ten day contracts and then finally

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<v Speaker 1>established himself as an NBA player now unfast four or

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<v Speaker 1>five years and man just gotta get some bread. So

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<v Speaker 1>and he earned every bit of it. So Um, that

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<v Speaker 1>part of it is so much fun to watch because

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<v Speaker 1>he's my guy and I'm as big as fan and

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<v Speaker 1>everything that he does, and you know, you always you

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<v Speaker 1>want him just get an opportunity because I know what

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<v Speaker 1>type of player he is and he's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>an NBA. And and to think last year and Commons

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<v Speaker 1>finals were playing against each other and my parents up

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<v Speaker 1>there and just nervous and crying and emotional and all

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<v Speaker 1>that it was. It was unbelievable. Yeah. No, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>him laugh when he plucked you that time. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I had like talk about turnovers and my mom getting handbags.

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<v Speaker 1>He was he was responsible about five don't know my

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<v Speaker 1>brother never to this day, he one person I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>beat the one on one for some reason, current player,

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<v Speaker 1>the reminds you of yourself, anybody, I mean a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of Trey. He's he's more baby still. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got he's got he's got that element. Uh that's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's all I can think that I could think.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question taking you and your team out of the picture.

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<v Speaker 1>Who who who do you think? Who do you think

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<v Speaker 1>will be in the finals this year? No? No, leave

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<v Speaker 1>your team, keep it real. Leave your team in the picture.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't winning, ship, Really, I ain't winning this year. Ain't

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<v Speaker 1>got the super coaches ship. Man, that's our little brother.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what time it is. Leave y'all team in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Take his team out of you know what time it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just what it is. Man. You'll need a break. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been playing basketball for the last fifty years, all

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<v Speaker 1>went to the finals. You'll need a break. But really realistic,

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<v Speaker 1>leave your team in there. Yeah, can you rephrase this question? Please?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's winning it this year? With his team in there?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't take him out. I'm gonna say, if I was

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<v Speaker 1>betting right now, I bet you don't come get me

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<v Speaker 1>right right, But if I if I had had a

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<v Speaker 1>pick right now, maybe the Lakers in Milwaukee just because

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<v Speaker 1>they play and I was watching every game of that

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<v Speaker 1>right right, Yeah they are they got it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm knocking on stocks. We appreciate it, man, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to get that headline Steph Curry. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers and the Milwaukee Bucks gonna be that's a wrap. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode thirteen with my brother, Yes, sir, we did it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Said you were funny this episode. Man, he was on

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<v Speaker 1>your ship I appreciate it. I want to thank Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Barnes for the two seventeen NBA championship. Yeah. Man, they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't want to without Matt. One though. I was up

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<v Speaker 1>there cheering my Assholly, my asshole. Yeah. I even killing

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<v Speaker 1>me all year, even killing you was on your ship. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he got me back. It's the first Nime comebacks

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<v Speaker 1>and the parts I said you'd be saying, you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I said myself thirteen episode and finally got a funny

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<v Speaker 1>joking ship. He got me. Anyways, that's a wrap episode thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>All the smoke, Steph Curry. We appreciate you, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you. Bro. You can find a Showtime Basketball YouTube

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