Speaker 1: M warning, May I have your attention at the sounds
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Speaker 1: will be legal for twelve continuous rounds. Danny Garcia is
Speaker 1: back to purge the welterweight division, plus Jared Heard returns
Speaker 1: to strike fear inside the ring on Showtime Welcome Back,
Speaker 1: Episode thirteen. All the smoke, my brethren, is it? That
Speaker 1: was a wet one? I got Brady looked good though.
Speaker 1: Thank you, appreciate hey for this. And I'm excited, man,
Speaker 1: we got Steph Curry here, man the chef. Appreciate you, bro,
Speaker 1: thank you for your time. I haven't seen you walk
Speaker 1: in these l A beaches. And I think I've seen
Speaker 1: that boy posting pictures on the sunset with his wife.
Speaker 1: I'm if I'm a Warrior fan. I'm like, oh ship,
Speaker 1: he's in l A. You know what time it is, though,
Speaker 1: How I gotta get a little vacation out of the
Speaker 1: hand feeling. Man, It's all right, It's uh, it's a
Speaker 1: little different. I ain't had this one before. Um, but surgery,
Speaker 1: a little rehab and other surgery, some more rehab. But
Speaker 1: everything should be back to and pretty soon. But I'm
Speaker 1: just chilling. What I tell people they don't understand is
Speaker 1: even though the season is kind of ugly right now,
Speaker 1: you guys are resting and you haven't had no resting
Speaker 1: five years. Yeah, you got you deal with your reality
Speaker 1: as it comes. Right. So like Game three when I
Speaker 1: was before, before I got hurt, everything was about how
Speaker 1: we just like make the playoffs and put together the
Speaker 1: young squad and all that. After coming off a crazy
Speaker 1: you use a part of it crazy? Yeah, five six
Speaker 1: year runs. So now I got hurt. It just changed
Speaker 1: your perspective, like, how did I come back stronger? Look
Speaker 1: at next year, and uh, figure out how we're gonna
Speaker 1: get back to where we're supposed to be for We'll
Speaker 1: touched on that a little bit later. But it was
Speaker 1: the best in the disguise in my mind. You know, um,
Speaker 1: coming from a mid major, did you ever think that
Speaker 1: Steph Curry would change the face of basketball the way
Speaker 1: it's place? What do you think you dream of dreamed
Speaker 1: of it? Y'all dreamed of playing in the league and
Speaker 1: and and doing amazing stuff. But I never dreamed of
Speaker 1: change in the game. That's what I said. I said
Speaker 1: playing in the league. I dreamed of playing in the league,
Speaker 1: playing the way that I know how to play the game. UM,
Speaker 1: when I was at Davison Man, I was six one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty pounds when I got there, and I
Speaker 1: found a coach at the lead to me and gave
Speaker 1: me an opportunity to, you know, just go out and
Speaker 1: hoop and learn how to learn through my mistakes. I
Speaker 1: had thirteen turnovers my first game at Davidson, and he
Speaker 1: didn't say nothing. He said, just keep moving, next play mentality,
Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. So I took that confidence
Speaker 1: through my college career into the league. And though I
Speaker 1: was still scrawling when I showed up backing on nine
Speaker 1: playing nellyball, like I knew what I was capable of,
Speaker 1: and I just put the work in. I think four
Speaker 1: years later, when uh, I started hitting on the threes
Speaker 1: and like pushing the record book and that in that respect,
Speaker 1: and like you know, changing my range and UH and
Speaker 1: just seeing the court a little different, that's when I
Speaker 1: knew this could be how I can submit myself in
Speaker 1: the league. And UH, nobody was really like using it
Speaker 1: as a weapon like the way that I thought I could.
Speaker 1: And it's a confidence thing though, like you put the
Speaker 1: work in, but it's a confidence thing, and uh, you
Speaker 1: know you got little kids in high school and middle
Speaker 1: school and younger just jacking up threes and parents and coat.
Speaker 1: It was crazy because I mean, we had a tournament
Speaker 1: this past weekend and you know, my boys, they've been around,
Speaker 1: like we get out there early and Isaiah shooting from
Speaker 1: behind before the ribbles or anything, like, bro, what are
Speaker 1: you doing. It's like, Dad, I'm just getting warm. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you don't want to start closers Like, no, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I listen to the whole story,
Speaker 1: right because like when I that's my pops taught me
Speaker 1: the way to to work on your game, like starting
Speaker 1: the pain, get your convertence, see how it goes, work
Speaker 1: work your way out, Like I learned that from a
Speaker 1: young age. And so now everybody sees the finishers and
Speaker 1: they want that. It's like the process is there's just
Speaker 1: lost um and so hopefully they they understand that and
Speaker 1: everybody can can figure it out, just take some time.
Speaker 1: So not very many people like I said, you've done,
Speaker 1: You've You've changed the face of the game coming from
Speaker 1: a mid major, you know what I mean, There hasn't
Speaker 1: been too many guys have been able to do that.
Speaker 1: You know, C. J. McCullum, Dame uh Morant, tell me
Speaker 1: what that was. Like, what's coming from you? So you
Speaker 1: weren't really highly recruited and you know, you weren't in
Speaker 1: a top college, but we started seeing you come on
Speaker 1: the scene when you face these big schools and to
Speaker 1: be able to take that mid major game and really
Speaker 1: translated and played in the NBA. It's a huge credit
Speaker 1: to how hard you have to work. Yeah, I think, Um,
Speaker 1: like you said, coming from a mid major, it's about
Speaker 1: who you get to play against and that competition. Obviously
Speaker 1: our conference we played in the Southern Conference. I bet
Speaker 1: you couldn't name two other schools in that conference. Like
Speaker 1: that's just that's part of the journey. But we you
Speaker 1: know coach McKillip, who's still there is like this year, Um,
Speaker 1: they moved on to the Atlantic ten, so they moved
Speaker 1: up a little bit. But in terms of like when
Speaker 1: I was there, we played against the Dukes of Carolinas,
Speaker 1: NC States, came out here and played U C. L
Speaker 1: A and got exposed and understood what it took to
Speaker 1: be at that level. Once we got to the tournament,
Speaker 1: what was gonna take to win my freshman year, I
Speaker 1: was thrown into the fire. I was playing like thirty
Speaker 1: seven minutes a game at the two spots. We had
Speaker 1: another point guard, Jason Richards, where I was two years
Speaker 1: older than me and was like our best player at
Speaker 1: the time. It was like the steady guy, the steady hand.
Speaker 1: I got to learn from him. That next year. My
Speaker 1: sophomore year, um kind of just took off. We had
Speaker 1: the guys that knew their role. Everybody you know, came selfless,
Speaker 1: did what they supposed to do. And we were two
Speaker 1: and six in the first like what eight games, and
Speaker 1: and and playing those teams I was talking about, and
Speaker 1: we took that learn from it, put in our back pocket,
Speaker 1: got to de tournament, and then we started beating everybody.
Speaker 1: And so, uh, it's just a conference. And you gotta
Speaker 1: know like that, you can't play with the best. It's
Speaker 1: not you get laid with that mid major D one whatever.
Speaker 1: That's just you know, just the history of it. There's
Speaker 1: not doing talk about what we're about to do this
Speaker 1: year and whatever. And so you got like you said,
Speaker 1: you know, damn C J. Joh and you can name them.
Speaker 1: There's there's guys that just want an opportunity to play,
Speaker 1: and they got the town, they got the skill, they
Speaker 1: got the killer instinct, and now you know, more and
Speaker 1: more guys are showing it in the league. It's funny
Speaker 1: you mentioned confidence because the four, the three other guys
Speaker 1: you name, is how yourself. They all carry themselves with
Speaker 1: high confidence. And I think it's kind of probably like
Speaker 1: put that chip on my show, like I don't give
Speaker 1: a fun major. I'm still a killer out here exactly
Speaker 1: when I was with the Warriors, when you when you came,
Speaker 1: where were we like when you know, in your eyes,
Speaker 1: what were we like when you came there before? When
Speaker 1: I when you got drafting, I got there when you
Speaker 1: got drafted was crazy. I didn't know much about that
Speaker 1: specific team. Knew about you. I knew about Monte, I
Speaker 1: knew by Andres that's it. Corey mcgetty too, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know about y'all four. I forgot Court. Yeah, Court is there.
Speaker 1: So I knew about y'all four. I I mean I
Speaker 1: watched it was it two years before you were met, uh,
Speaker 1: and we believe the situation. I knew how like that
Speaker 1: pride around if you said that word those two words
Speaker 1: together like just be like yeah, like demon right, So
Speaker 1: I knew about that, but um, I kind of when
Speaker 1: I got drafted. It's kind of funny thinking back, I
Speaker 1: was I wanted to go to New York, and I
Speaker 1: thought I was going to New Yorks in the draft
Speaker 1: in the green room, like uh, get to the eight
Speaker 1: spot in New York and get me. And I got
Speaker 1: the call from Larry right late, like all right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna gonna pick you in the seventh spot. Was dry
Speaker 1: a little bit because him and him and him straight
Speaker 1: to it, because I remember when he went straight to
Speaker 1: you don't want to be here. I'm gonna say you
Speaker 1: this shot all right, as kid to the point I
Speaker 1: was over my room. I'm half sleep, that's all I get.
Speaker 1: I knew like it was coming off of like a
Speaker 1: re restructure where rebelieve it was a lot and then
Speaker 1: the guys were going elsewhere and playing, So I mean,
Speaker 1: I knew we weren't gonna be that good, but um,
Speaker 1: I got to, you know, work my way into the
Speaker 1: starting lineup and all that. And and as as a rookie,
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard when you don't know what you
Speaker 1: don't know, but you just working on word about just
Speaker 1: hooping and playing and being around guys. One thing that
Speaker 1: made me most comfortable is I got Anthony Marrow, who
Speaker 1: grew up in Charlotte, and when I got drafted, I
Speaker 1: knew he was He had played the previous year, was
Speaker 1: going trying to make his way back onto the team.
Speaker 1: Like that made me just hype. I know somebody I
Speaker 1: grew up with her, just played with in high school
Speaker 1: and followed his journey, like, let me get close to
Speaker 1: him and enjoy this righte and learn as I went through.
Speaker 1: But I was kind of upset with you because why
Speaker 1: you couldn't pull me to the side and tell me
Speaker 1: this was gonna be the outcome I was gonna because
Speaker 1: I heard why why you couldn't put it like O
Speaker 1: g get traded. I got something story from sometimes say
Speaker 1: you'll be seeing this a lot. They're gonna making songs
Speaker 1: about me, all kind of ship. Just stay calm. I
Speaker 1: wish you could have pulled me to the side. Jack
Speaker 1: tell that story, because you know he's like I left,
Speaker 1: He's like, I just didn't know stuff was gonna be stepped.
Speaker 1: So it was Jack like an asshole back then, because
Speaker 1: Jack was an asshole. If he didn't really know you were,
Speaker 1: that was an asshole. But he when you had when
Speaker 1: you went, and I was no question I think I
Speaker 1: had that. He's still an asshole. But yeah, right, that
Speaker 1: was funny because I heard him tell the stories like
Speaker 1: I wish I would just would have known steps gonna
Speaker 1: be steff favorite I got. I got my favorite stack story. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's probably like two weeks before you got traded, and
Speaker 1: we were on a road trip in Indiana and we
Speaker 1: went it was like seven of us went to I
Speaker 1: think steakhouse right down the street from the hotel. The
Speaker 1: day before, somebody had started like rumblings around your trade
Speaker 1: rumors and you know this and that, and you were
Speaker 1: you were unhappy and like people in the the locker room
Speaker 1: unhappy and like media taking over doing what they do.
Speaker 1: And I remember sitting at the dinner table and you
Speaker 1: called up this reporter and cussed him out so bad
Speaker 1: for writing some untrue, truthful article. I'm sitting there like,
Speaker 1: this is how we do okay, this is how we
Speaker 1: do it. We don't I didn't have all let im
Speaker 1: come controlling stuff like that's how the NBA works it.
Speaker 1: You don't like like I have to cuss like that.
Speaker 1: At one point too, I was crying but I just
Speaker 1: talking like he when you know what he knows and
Speaker 1: he's passion about something's gonna let you know. So that
Speaker 1: that was one of my favorite members. Man classic what
Speaker 1: was playing with my take? Like, man, it was exciting.
Speaker 1: I think the hard part of how people kind of
Speaker 1: see us was they talked about the first thing they
Speaker 1: talked about with me and him is what he said, uh,
Speaker 1: training camp, my rookie year, like I can play to
Speaker 1: two young guys can't play together, and and this and that.
Speaker 1: That was kind of how our relationship, um, you know started.
Speaker 1: But he the way that uh, his talent and just
Speaker 1: the way that he had that mindset like no matter
Speaker 1: what was going on with the team, like give me
Speaker 1: the ball, I'm rather to get y'all bucket. You know.
Speaker 1: He did. He did. He was unbelievable, and I think, um,
Speaker 1: you know, Martha didn't get enough credit in terms of
Speaker 1: just his journey, you know, coming from high school and
Speaker 1: y'all know him when he was like young, I got
Speaker 1: I got the VET version, but he he had a
Speaker 1: lot thrown on him as a young guy from a
Speaker 1: leadership perspective, you know, with this team that didn't really
Speaker 1: have an identity, Um, they had expectations of what y'all
Speaker 1: left do we believe team and all that, and and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, nobody's perfect. I'm not perfect in the sense
Speaker 1: of like anything. But when he called me my second
Speaker 1: year and I was playing terrible for like two weeks
Speaker 1: straight and he called me after practice one day and
Speaker 1: uh and just kind of gave me some good words
Speaker 1: of encouragement and like, nobody you don't have to do
Speaker 1: a real has to do it, especially with um pompt
Speaker 1: like there's a threat between both of us and this
Speaker 1: and that and the storylines and all that. Like he
Speaker 1: didn't he didn't care. It was just about like how
Speaker 1: can we hoop and get better together and get to
Speaker 1: know each other? And he called me out the blue,
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, yo, just let me know, like
Speaker 1: you're feeling pressure, like you're dealing with expectations. I'm doing
Speaker 1: the same stuff. Like and we couldn't be further different
Speaker 1: our journeys to get to the league. But you know
Speaker 1: that was a good connection. Um, Like that's why I
Speaker 1: was I love man shout out, and uh, that's why
Speaker 1: I wanted to reph. I would think I got repped
Speaker 1: with the with the Jersey's last year. I bore to Oracle.
Speaker 1: I had to make sure they knew how much I
Speaker 1: appreciated him. So sure, young Tony Mississippi Bullet, right, Mississippi Bullets.
Speaker 1: Tell me what it was like building with Clay and
Speaker 1: then Draymond coming along, Because you guys are kind of
Speaker 1: like the core, the three amigos of what started it
Speaker 1: and how you guys were home grown through the draft.
Speaker 1: It's a different story than like today's league, right, but um,
Speaker 1: it was. It was wild to think with when they
Speaker 1: traded Monte after, you know, during Clay's rookie year, and
Speaker 1: that was kind of sign that we're moving into the future.
Speaker 1: And uh, Draymond comes in the second round pick the
Speaker 1: steel of the draft. Did you know him before? No,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. Dream came out just it's hungry dog
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you'll remember so like that
Speaker 1: first that they're Clay's second year, Draymond's rookie year. We're
Speaker 1: playing against Denver in the first round of playoffs and
Speaker 1: you know David Lee, you guys, he gets hurt in
Speaker 1: the first game and it was like the perfect opportunity
Speaker 1: for Draymond the showcase. Just what he's about as a winner,
Speaker 1: right like his Michigan State you know journey obviously shout
Speaker 1: at him, just got a new jersey retired. It was
Speaker 1: always that line, like Draymonds, I got it. Nothing gonna
Speaker 1: stop open the statue. But he's gonna make winning players
Speaker 1: and he's gonna show if you gonn pass the eye
Speaker 1: tests every single time. And for a rookie to step
Speaker 1: in like that with that confidence and you know, your
Speaker 1: first playoff experience and make a differences a lot as
Speaker 1: if that goes you know, goes down like the rest
Speaker 1: was history after that, and we just took that experience. Obviously. Clay,
Speaker 1: he's just so want of a com and like low maintenance,
Speaker 1: low key anybody um knows his role as competitive as
Speaker 1: hell just and and he can shoot like he has
Speaker 1: the whole the whole, the whole package in terms of
Speaker 1: just how he's helped us win championships and and I
Speaker 1: know he's gonna come back strong after this a c
Speaker 1: L situation. But for us to be the young guys
Speaker 1: at one point, now you don't go through everything. I
Speaker 1: always played on the team, but be thirty two next
Speaker 1: in a couple of months. Draymond Clay we got, you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully a good three four year window to go back
Speaker 1: at it together. Like it's it's it's it's crazy to
Speaker 1: think about are you and play the best shooting calm
Speaker 1: or whatever? Goddamn you better say that said something like
Speaker 1: I wait into the show, like, bro, next time somebody asked,
Speaker 1: crated you? But yeah, we are. I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe everybody better believe it for sure. Mark was
Speaker 1: that Mark Jackson said that, uh that same year early yeah, early,
Speaker 1: he was early early champion of it. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we still the thea thing. We still got more
Speaker 1: to the Yeah, but definitely. But I've seen you know,
Speaker 1: playing playing, getting a chance to play with you guys
Speaker 1: in the seventeen season. Always compete and get you when
Speaker 1: I see you guys in practice and how hard you
Speaker 1: shooting and in the workouts you go through and you
Speaker 1: guys really don't miss, Like you guys are real live shoes.
Speaker 1: I tell when people like when I say, like that
Speaker 1: show was lucky Steph Tuggs, like now steps practice that
Speaker 1: shot every single day after practice, Like tell me what
Speaker 1: that's like you said you mentioned in earlier, like people
Speaker 1: only see the finished three point mad range process but
Speaker 1: you some of the workouts, you and Katie were doing it,
Speaker 1: and Clay was on his court doing this thing like
Speaker 1: it was some of the most unbelievable ship I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: When you're around greatness like that, it just continues to motivate.
Speaker 1: You encourage it because you don't want to be to
Speaker 1: do that that's not continue to getting better. Um. And
Speaker 1: so like we all pushed each other where we talked
Speaker 1: about it or not. It's just like a presence thing,
Speaker 1: like when Katie walks on the court, when I walked
Speaker 1: on the court, Clay walks on court, Draymond with uh,
Speaker 1: you know, with his his mind set, in his passion,
Speaker 1: like it's just contagious and everybody kind of just wants
Speaker 1: to one up to any a little bit. And so
Speaker 1: like you said it with Clay, Um, we don't even
Speaker 1: shoot together really that often. We're on the set the
Speaker 1: same court obviously goals, but energy and looking at each other. No,
Speaker 1: I've seen you guys like I went there and I
Speaker 1: was someone who always just shot after practice. But there's
Speaker 1: a whole line to fucking shoot after practice. And Golden State,
Speaker 1: like everyone Andre had his court, dray at his court.
Speaker 1: You and Katie had a court, Clay had a court.
Speaker 1: But it was amazing because even though you guys were
Speaker 1: in your own rhythm and motion, I can sense that
Speaker 1: you're kind of still you know. I mean, like you said,
Speaker 1: you want to improve and you want to look Okay,
Speaker 1: Clay just rolled off this mane. I want to make
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it was dope to
Speaker 1: just sit back and see, you know, the finished products Championships,
Speaker 1: but the preparation was amazing. That Ice the nets when
Speaker 1: they finish Eric Eric Housing. But now he shout out man,
Speaker 1: he got half man stories. He's man. Shout out Eric Housing. Man.
Speaker 1: What is he still the head equipment or her resonated?
Speaker 1: His titles changed. He everything, shout out anything I need
Speaker 1: from any team though not just I feel you know,
Speaker 1: somebody and every team. And he got to plug with
Speaker 1: he He's a special one man. Learning shooting from your
Speaker 1: dad early on. You know you've seen me and you've
Speaker 1: been great to my kids. I want to bring him
Speaker 1: around and have that experience being your dad's shadow early
Speaker 1: on and learning shooting early on. Is that what kind
Speaker 1: of got you into the game obviously for sure. I
Speaker 1: mean just anytime you watch your pops do something if
Speaker 1: you have a relationship. Blessed that I got to be
Speaker 1: to see it, you know, when I was like six
Speaker 1: or seven. He retired when I was thirteen, so for
Speaker 1: the majority of his career I got to watch and
Speaker 1: my brother did too. You just you gotta love the
Speaker 1: game yourself. But just being around and Washington you pick
Speaker 1: up stuff. It just made me want to work harder.
Speaker 1: When I was thirteen, out decide I was gonna play
Speaker 1: the only basketball I got really other sports like that,
Speaker 1: work ethic and just how to like to be a
Speaker 1: true professional in this in the sense of every day
Speaker 1: there's something that you can you can pick up. I
Speaker 1: used to not only watch him, but all his teammates
Speaker 1: the same way your kids now. It's it's such a
Speaker 1: cool and unbelievable experience. I think back, like what all
Speaker 1: the things that I did see, Yeah, help me to
Speaker 1: get there so just real quick. Was never like the
Speaker 1: guy that was like, we're gonna go to the gym
Speaker 1: right now, we're gonna work out, and like he always
Speaker 1: made sure me and my brother wanted and wanted it
Speaker 1: for ourselves. He's gonna help provide, you know, opportunities and
Speaker 1: give us anything if we ask the questions. But it
Speaker 1: was never like that drill sergeant type like you gotta
Speaker 1: do this. Yeah, that his personality ain't drill. You know,
Speaker 1: that was a thing being with this team. But you know,
Speaker 1: my last handful of years in the league, I went
Speaker 1: from you know, Chris, Paul Blake and and and DeAndre
Speaker 1: Um they actually they got tripped tripping right before that.
Speaker 1: They were around Kobe in the locker room, around Lob
Speaker 1: City in the locker room. And then I came to
Speaker 1: you guys, and Coach Kerr was amazing, you know as
Speaker 1: far as just allowing access to families and in the organization,
Speaker 1: taking care of everything you need to you just focus
Speaker 1: on basketball. But I was bringing the twins you know,
Speaker 1: on the team planes ball boys and where they shot.
Speaker 1: They were shooting with you guys. Were in the Eastern
Speaker 1: or Western Conference finals against Houston and they were over
Speaker 1: there shooting on the court during practice with you guys,
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of ship that like you can't make
Speaker 1: up you know what I mean. And I wanted it's
Speaker 1: cool that you remember that and hold on to that
Speaker 1: because that's what the kind of experience I was trying
Speaker 1: to give them, Like you we're on Steph Curry, Katie Clay,
Speaker 1: Draymond Kobe. I mean, you soaked that up like a
Speaker 1: sponge as a child, and it's something that it's dope
Speaker 1: that you recall it now because that's what I was
Speaker 1: trying to build for my kids. So I know that
Speaker 1: shaves your perspective too. And obviously there's a dad um
Speaker 1: that can go the opposite way where you get a
Speaker 1: sensement tied them man, because you have access to all
Speaker 1: this stuff, but knowing you know my dad, like they
Speaker 1: weren't gonna let that happen. Clay is the same way
Speaker 1: like when my when Michael, like you can you know,
Speaker 1: show your kids these cool experiences and let them meet
Speaker 1: amazing people and have them around because you want to
Speaker 1: share that with them. But it's also on the back end,
Speaker 1: like my pop's always say you're gonna work for whatever
Speaker 1: you guys, nothing's gonna be given to you. And that
Speaker 1: was a message that he made sure and he said
Speaker 1: he's cool as a family. He makes sure I knew
Speaker 1: that part, like, um, you're gonna work for whatever you got,
Speaker 1: just like he did coming up. No matter who your
Speaker 1: parents are, at the end of the day, like you
Speaker 1: gotta figure it out for yourself. So you have Mark
Speaker 1: Jackson and you transition to Steve Kerr. Talk about that Mark, Well,
Speaker 1: they're very similar in the sense they're they're super competitive
Speaker 1: and they they both obviously come from their playing backgrounds
Speaker 1: where they know what it's like to be a player.
Speaker 1: They know whatever what you go through on a daily basis,
Speaker 1: They know how to communicate, they know, you know, just
Speaker 1: the little touch, you know, points that you you to have, Um,
Speaker 1: haven't been in our shoes on player. So the biggest
Speaker 1: differences for Mark, we were young and we were unproven,
Speaker 1: and he had to create an identity and create an
Speaker 1: edge for us that you know, gave us the comments
Speaker 1: to walk on the floor so that we can be
Speaker 1: in any team any given night. And he's an unbelievable
Speaker 1: motivator in terms of just the way that he can,
Speaker 1: you know, articulate himself and give you some some type
Speaker 1: of fuel on a nightly basis. Like he would come
Speaker 1: in in the locker room, Uh, and he wouldn't We
Speaker 1: talked about extra game plans, but then he's spent like
Speaker 1: five minutes just talking about life and like the perspective
Speaker 1: of you know, how much you know what makes us
Speaker 1: all different while we're on the locker room together when
Speaker 1: we're about to go down here, and and he bring
Speaker 1: it around something like you know, pretty funny, serious sometimes
Speaker 1: story that just made you like your blood star bulling,
Speaker 1: like all right, oh, we we got a game right too.
Speaker 1: Let's go like let's go for young guys like like
Speaker 1: like we were at the time, like we needed all
Speaker 1: that edge and that competitiveness and that and I gotta
Speaker 1: would go to war for you in the media and
Speaker 1: the locker room. Sometimes it was to a detriment a
Speaker 1: little bit up for upstairs, like we're all just uh,
Speaker 1: we're just grinding trying to get to that next level.
Speaker 1: And he helped us. Uh, he helped us get there.
Speaker 1: And there's no secret I didn't want fired when when
Speaker 1: when they went down and um, you know with Bob
Speaker 1: Myers and Joe Lake and Peter Goober, they wanted to
Speaker 1: make a decision and they brought in Steve and and
Speaker 1: my my whole point was like, if you fired coach Kurve,
Speaker 1: I mean, fired on coach Jackson, you just gotta get
Speaker 1: the next higher, right because we're in a position now
Speaker 1: where you can take that next you can't mess it
Speaker 1: up and and obviously they got it right. You know,
Speaker 1: Coach Curve is uh, he's special man like he's he's wise,
Speaker 1: you know, just in terms of you know how to
Speaker 1: how to manage people right, Like that's that's a big
Speaker 1: thing in the league, no matter if it's the first
Speaker 1: guy the fifteen guy. You gotta be able to be honest,
Speaker 1: be able to set the expectations um and figure out
Speaker 1: your ways to get the best out of out of guys.
Speaker 1: And I think anybody that would play for him would
Speaker 1: tell you you always know, like where you're at, Like
Speaker 1: you always know if you if you get a couple
Speaker 1: of d nps, he's gonna tell you why. He's gonna
Speaker 1: keep you engaged. He's not just gonna walk by and
Speaker 1: not say nothing. And we've had experiences like like that
Speaker 1: across the board, and I think that's the biggest thing
Speaker 1: for long term success. Like you know, you who your
Speaker 1: best players are. You know that they're gonna go out
Speaker 1: and do what they need to do every night, but
Speaker 1: you know your role players and the guys that are
Speaker 1: gonna help you do out the regular season and have
Speaker 1: those spot moments during the playoffs that's gonna make a difference,
Speaker 1: like they gotta be engaged all year long, and it
Speaker 1: starts in the summertime. The training, camping all the way
Speaker 1: through and coaches is the best that just being able
Speaker 1: to paint a picture of how you're gonna help this
Speaker 1: team and being real, like you feel that care factor
Speaker 1: that he that he brings, and uh, it's been an
Speaker 1: amazing journey. He's obviously had the best five year run
Speaker 1: of coaching. He's a great motivated to I want a
Speaker 1: championship with him. When when I was with the Spurs
Speaker 1: and I remember used to come out the game a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, when Pop used to pull me from making
Speaker 1: the mistakes. And I remember in the finals, you know,
Speaker 1: I just start I didn't start game six off or
Speaker 1: well at all, and Pop kept pulling me. But he
Speaker 1: kept coming to me like you're gonna make some big shots,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you, And he kept telling me that you know,
Speaker 1: I guess KO and I wasn't, you know, I was
Speaker 1: in the funk, so I really wasn't hearing them and
Speaker 1: up making three big threes again in the championship game
Speaker 1: to win the championships. So he's one of them guys
Speaker 1: that he's so educated so smart about the game that
Speaker 1: he can see that you don't even And the cool
Speaker 1: thing about it too is he's had every seat and
Speaker 1: almost and and wanted every seat right. So you're talking
Speaker 1: about like Chicago to San Antonio winning championships, to be
Speaker 1: in the gym with his Phoenix suns and seeing what
Speaker 1: it's like to really manage a roster, and then you
Speaker 1: go he's an analyst where he gets to just see
Speaker 1: the game and talk to people and just be connected
Speaker 1: and and then he's a head coach and it's like
Speaker 1: he's got it. So this year is actually interesting because
Speaker 1: we obviously have a you know, young team and trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out and and it's testing him in
Speaker 1: different ways. Over the last five years, he hasn't been
Speaker 1: testing and tested and uh, I mean he's hand on man.
Speaker 1: It's it's obviously our record is not great, but um,
Speaker 1: all the young guys, when you asked him like how
Speaker 1: like you hear what they have to say about him
Speaker 1: and how they make him feel like amiss, the struggles
Speaker 1: that they're going through. It's, uh, that's says that says
Speaker 1: a lot. You don't have a problem with the flyweed.
Speaker 1: I don't think no he's someone that I think, I
Speaker 1: think joys the well. I remember when I was playing,
Speaker 1: he had the spine stuff, right, So I remember that's
Speaker 1: when he was kind of dabbling in the CBD space
Speaker 1: because it was sad. I remember because I was hurting
Speaker 1: the playoffs too. He couldn't sit, Like if he could
Speaker 1: sit for two minutes, they didn't have to lay, they
Speaker 1: need to have to walk around. Then he would try
Speaker 1: to sit like his pain was enormously through the roof.
Speaker 1: So it was one time. It's kind of awkward though,
Speaker 1: because head coaching player current is my last season, you know,
Speaker 1: not knowing, but it was my last season. I was
Speaker 1: just like, you know, do you do you smoke? Do
Speaker 1: you take CBD? I mean, I'm asking my coach that
Speaker 1: just because I'm seeing like the how uncomfortable and how
Speaker 1: how how in pain he is, and you know, I
Speaker 1: tried this and I tried that, and it was it
Speaker 1: was just hard because he's such a good guy, but
Speaker 1: he was really going through some ship with that spinal stuff.
Speaker 1: He was going through crazy. How long did it take
Speaker 1: for you guys to bond? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I said, you were a big advocate from Mark
Speaker 1: Jackson you didn't want to fire, but you were persistent
Speaker 1: on making sure it's the right higher. Once you kind
Speaker 1: of realized that he was the right higher, how long
Speaker 1: to take you guys to bond? I said that first
Speaker 1: that first year, like leading up to the Christmas game. Um,
Speaker 1: that's probably the point where I got comfortable understanding, you know,
Speaker 1: how I was gonna help or how I was gonna
Speaker 1: take advantage of assistant that he put in place, because
Speaker 1: it was drastically different than than than coach Jackson. So, um,
Speaker 1: we always laughed. He you know, talking about ball movement. Um,
Speaker 1: you know player movement, you know, just making the right
Speaker 1: open pass, keep keep the ball moving, and something's gonna
Speaker 1: something that's gonna lead to a good shot at some point. Um,
Speaker 1: we had certain like reads and calls left very some
Speaker 1: of the spurs uh systems, And he always say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, this is it's pretty intuitive what we're trying
Speaker 1: to do. But you know, we just got to get
Speaker 1: the fundamentals and the foundations of it for this year
Speaker 1: and then next year, you know, when we really got
Speaker 1: it and everybody understands where to be and when you
Speaker 1: know in the timing of everything, like we're really gonna
Speaker 1: take off. But it's like funny because that first year
Speaker 1: we wanted we won the championship, and every day it
Speaker 1: was about just keeping things simple, right And as a
Speaker 1: point guard, that's that's I loved it because my game,
Speaker 1: I try to keep things simple, like take the first
Speaker 1: open shot. Your handles ain't simple, far from it. Your
Speaker 1: handles are not simple. Beyond that, if it's if you
Speaker 1: open from thirty shooting. If not, move it, get off
Speaker 1: and get off the ball, get out the way somebody
Speaker 1: else make a play. We obviously we're blessed with a
Speaker 1: lot of different playmakers. You know, you've got myself, Sean
Speaker 1: Andre Draymond from the top, we keep playing. We have
Speaker 1: bigs that could pass with bogan um and all that.
Speaker 1: So like it worked because of our personnel. But that's
Speaker 1: just a fun way to play basketball. Um and it's
Speaker 1: obviously proved success. But when you know, like everybody feels
Speaker 1: involved and like they know to get but they all
Speaker 1: to be a threat. I do. Nobody knows who liked
Speaker 1: to shoot, and that's what makes you so dangerous because
Speaker 1: everyone is. Because I caught both ends of you guys
Speaker 1: obviously kind of we were I wouldn't even say, big brother,
Speaker 1: but what kind of you are? The Lob City team
Speaker 1: was kind of your battle and your barometer from the
Speaker 1: time we beat you guys until you guys win in
Speaker 1: the championship next year. So we saw the Mark Jackson
Speaker 1: building that foundation. And I'll be like, oh, these young
Speaker 1: motherfucker's about the guys and Draymond because I remember we
Speaker 1: had CCP and he was the guy, and Draymond was
Speaker 1: like fun that I'm taking Steph Curry every single night,
Speaker 1: and he was doing some fun up ship to our team,
Speaker 1: like stepping on chris Is shoe making a fall getting jump.
Speaker 1: He stepped on the shoe. And then the one time
Speaker 1: in Golden State where you went in between our the
Speaker 1: whole team at the free through came out and turn
Speaker 1: around shot. And then when Kurt was like and he
Speaker 1: made it. It was probably one of the most unbelievable shots.
Speaker 1: He don't even you're dribbling around down, free throw, line back,
Speaker 1: turned around, fade, three points, like all kinds of crazy
Speaker 1: dribbling in between. Now just like this dude, and men
Speaker 1: like you can't do nothing, dope. Serious, serious was so
Speaker 1: much in it. But that's when we knew, like I
Speaker 1: knew being a bathroom mind was like these motherfucker's got
Speaker 1: next in it. Scood be next for a minute, and
Speaker 1: it was. It was amazing. Like I said, we were
Speaker 1: still competitive and wanted to kick your guys asses, but
Speaker 1: we can see what you guys are building and how
Speaker 1: special you guys were that last year. I mean that
Speaker 1: that's serious. I think was when the all the sterling
Speaker 1: ship Sterling ship that happened. It's kind of crazy, Like
Speaker 1: you talked about two teams that this is, to be honest,
Speaker 1: they hated each other. There's a lot of animosity and
Speaker 1: history and all that get into a seven game series.
Speaker 1: Then you got all the other in thea drama going
Speaker 1: on and we're like having conversations and if they don't
Speaker 1: make the ready like what we're gonna do. We're gonna protest,
Speaker 1: We're gonna you know, walk off the court, like what
Speaker 1: what what? What would have done? They would have decided
Speaker 1: not to play? We had a we had conversations like
Speaker 1: if they would have done the wrong thing in terms
Speaker 1: of not kicking them out the league and having you know,
Speaker 1: lifetime band or whatever. There's talks about us going to
Speaker 1: jump ball. The jump ball we all shake hands and
Speaker 1: just walk off the floor. That would have been so hard.
Speaker 1: Part of me, that would have been crazy. We should
Speaker 1: have did it anyway, when you think about his place
Speaker 1: in history and what it would have been right that
Speaker 1: it would have been up as hell. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a crazy thing that definitely likes. We lost and we
Speaker 1: sit there watching it in the next round, but it
Speaker 1: definitely helped us. But I think too, and I can
Speaker 1: say this because I think people not like it was
Speaker 1: a perfect sign of we had the most talent in
Speaker 1: the NBA. They were a young team that had a
Speaker 1: ton of talent too, But what set them aside is
Speaker 1: they really fucked with each other and their chemistry made
Speaker 1: them better than us. You know, even though at the
Speaker 1: time we were older, bigger, stronger, we had more talent.
Speaker 1: We should have probably won the finals. Like you could
Speaker 1: tell this team was up and coming, but they really
Speaker 1: they put from the outside looking in. Once I got
Speaker 1: there and I saw the whole situation from Katie and
Speaker 1: how you guys really put your game, your egos, everything
Speaker 1: to the side. But from the outside looking in early on,
Speaker 1: I'm like, these guys just want to win. They don't
Speaker 1: care who scores, what's going on like they're just out
Speaker 1: here playing basketball, laugh been jumping and having a good time,
Speaker 1: and those are scary teams. That's part of our DNA, man,
Speaker 1: and I think that's why it worked, because if you
Speaker 1: have that much talent and you stress out about whatever,
Speaker 1: like somebody else's success or if you're getting yours and
Speaker 1: all that, like, you gotta set that foundation earlier before
Speaker 1: I guess that gets out of hand. And that's that's
Speaker 1: why we accomplished what we did. Man. Winning the championship
Speaker 1: is always good. You got a couple of them, motherfucker's three?
Speaker 1: Which is it a favorite one? The first one? For sure?
Speaker 1: The first one is the favorite. Just why because you
Speaker 1: don't know what, like what it takes to get there
Speaker 1: until you actually accomplish it. And it's just a whole
Speaker 1: another level level of freedom after that. And you got one,
Speaker 1: like we can get greedy now. The stress of trying
Speaker 1: to get that one first, even that's that's a stressful time,
Speaker 1: like even I mean, and you're playing Braun and obviously
Speaker 1: they had injuries and whatnot, but just like the just
Speaker 1: the ground eighty two games, you gotta be locked in
Speaker 1: everything plus six team win when we took us twenty
Speaker 1: one or twenty two, whatever it was to get there.
Speaker 1: And you know how intention playoff games are. Man, it's
Speaker 1: like it's so hard to put in the words. But
Speaker 1: when you finally hit the horn, sound were in Cleveland
Speaker 1: like celebrating changes off, like all right, this who knows
Speaker 1: what's about to happen from you know, it's dope. When
Speaker 1: they went back and playing next year, he said it,
Speaker 1: he said, that's got a little bit of asshole ship
Speaker 1: talking to him, but he just covers it up with
Speaker 1: a good image. That ship was slick as I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's an a boy. You had you have three championships,
Speaker 1: uh you know the two losses, yeah, one of the
Speaker 1: Like you know how close you were there possibly winning
Speaker 1: four or five without injury last season, Like, tell me
Speaker 1: what that's like. I just love being in the conversation. Man,
Speaker 1: every year if you get in the finals, like it's crazy,
Speaker 1: it sounds not many people get that experience. You know,
Speaker 1: some some time greats never played in the finals or
Speaker 1: never one, so like I it just has a gratitude
Speaker 1: for that. Obviously, as a competitor, it sucks when you lose,
Speaker 1: Like everybody, the sixth team was hard sixth team was
Speaker 1: you know, just up and down crazy, you know, playoff
Speaker 1: run obviously sevent three and nine. Damn getting to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I get hurt miss like three weeks of the playoffs,
Speaker 1: come back. We we get to Western Commons finals, were
Speaker 1: down three one, like people think our seasons over with
Speaker 1: come back, so we were on both sides of the
Speaker 1: three one situation. And then the finals obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: I think the wheels just fell off and Kyrie and
Speaker 1: Lebron played unbelievable three straight games. Like I don't think
Speaker 1: people talk about that part of it as much as
Speaker 1: always like, well, like we got but we didn't lose,
Speaker 1: we got beat. So part of it is is just
Speaker 1: like each story is each year as a different like
Speaker 1: narrative and an experience. And I look back like I
Speaker 1: I appreciate each and every one of them because I
Speaker 1: won't remember who you went to war with. And you know,
Speaker 1: those wins were special, but even the losses, like you
Speaker 1: gotta put into perspective. Man, we're in the finals, like
Speaker 1: great players. It was a fight, Like I think at
Speaker 1: the end of the day when we all you know,
Speaker 1: hosting our own podcast, like and I look across the room,
Speaker 1: and I see Brian and Kyrie and Kauai and Kyle
Speaker 1: Lowry like and like, yo, that was fun, right, Let
Speaker 1: that stay away as long as I like this. You
Speaker 1: touched on the real quick. And I think what gets
Speaker 1: lost in the shuffle is that seventy three and nine season,
Speaker 1: Like what was that like? Knowing that you guys were
Speaker 1: eggbox shit crazy? Every seemed like the season around you
Speaker 1: here Pip talking a little bit and Horma bulls talking
Speaker 1: and they're not going to be able to do it,
Speaker 1: and you guys went seventy three and nine and but
Speaker 1: then you hear about what they didn't want the chance,
Speaker 1: like you know, I think what gets lost is you
Speaker 1: guys lost nine games and once that's incredible'eable? What was that? What?
Speaker 1: What was the regular season? And that dreamed you guys,
Speaker 1: people understand that's a mental dream to the physical dream.
Speaker 1: What's that mental dream? So I think it started in
Speaker 1: the summer between so we want the championship in fifteen,
Speaker 1: All season happens, and all we hear all the years
Speaker 1: we got lucky, right, That's all they're all we hear
Speaker 1: is Cleveland was heard. Mike Conley was hurt, like whatever
Speaker 1: the narrative was and we don't care, we want a championship.
Speaker 1: All we want to do coming in next year is
Speaker 1: like the validate, right we start off twenty four and all.
Speaker 1: So like that part of it alone was like that
Speaker 1: was about that. That part was the craziest thing in
Speaker 1: the world, just because we had O D confidence, we
Speaker 1: had chemistry like you said, um and like the change
Speaker 1: was off. We were just like, let's just go, let's
Speaker 1: just go win every single game and you know, to
Speaker 1: go twenty four and oh, like the intensity of that
Speaker 1: to start the season is it was worth it. But
Speaker 1: it was a lot and you know, the the just
Speaker 1: the chase down the stretch. Every game was like the
Speaker 1: finals and we have been celebrating right there us champagne,
Speaker 1: let's go bab Everybody's like, do we regret going after
Speaker 1: sevent three wins because we may have flamed out in
Speaker 1: the last in the finals. No, like that was an
Speaker 1: amazing accomplishment. We knew we could do that and go,
Speaker 1: you know, win another ring and we were right there obviously.
Speaker 1: So uh it is bitter sweet. You look at the
Speaker 1: banner and says seventy three and nine most wins in
Speaker 1: league and it doesn't mind you right for the finals,
Speaker 1: but everybody thought seven two nur was untouchable, and we
Speaker 1: got it. So that's the beaut of the league. Like
Speaker 1: it just keeps getting better and better. So we'll see.
Speaker 1: Tell me your thoughts on because today you're such a
Speaker 1: you know, join another team or big trade, but the
Speaker 1: root of your team was through the draft and then
Speaker 1: that positioned you to be able to pick up KD
Speaker 1: and free agent. Tell me about that whole process. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not the best one to ask. I've been with
Speaker 1: the same team for eleven years, but it's like the
Speaker 1: landscape is different, right, There's a lot more player movement,
Speaker 1: player freedom, and and that's a great thing to have
Speaker 1: where you know you can control your own destiny in
Speaker 1: a sense like um, there's been plenty of teams that
Speaker 1: have thought that you know, they're big two, big three,
Speaker 1: was gonna get it done, but it didn't happen, and
Speaker 1: you gotta take a shot at it. You gotta go after.
Speaker 1: Every year is precious. We all know that, and so
Speaker 1: I love the the I guess you caught the suspense
Speaker 1: of it like every summer, Like all right, how drastic
Speaker 1: is the league? Differently is the league gonna look next
Speaker 1: year and the summer was crazy. Um it's going to
Speaker 1: get even crazy as we go through. So there is
Speaker 1: something pure about like you said me, Clay Draymond setting
Speaker 1: the tone of building an identity for a team that
Speaker 1: then made it make sense for Katie to be you know,
Speaker 1: he wants to join it. Like it's like he knows
Speaker 1: what we're about and he could take at another level.
Speaker 1: And so to be able to build that the way
Speaker 1: we did and and have the memories that we do
Speaker 1: and then now be on the other side of and say, okay,
Speaker 1: keep that same identity, that same you know, championship mentality.
Speaker 1: Let's go for another window playing against teams that's gonna
Speaker 1: be shuffling and doing a lot of you know, changing
Speaker 1: throughout this throughout the summer. So it's it's fun to watch,
Speaker 1: I know for NBA fans, it's gonna be amazing year around.
Speaker 1: That's what continues to make the thing that business grow.
Speaker 1: Hopefully I can, I don't. I don't want me nowhere,
Speaker 1: so for you don't have to worry about that. It's
Speaker 1: good Man good beaches down here, and it's nice, but
Speaker 1: the bay is good. It's different. Tell me what it
Speaker 1: was like when when when it finally happens, when when
Speaker 1: you guys signed k D. Was there back and forth
Speaker 1: talk did you know where you're part of it? Like,
Speaker 1: tell me what it was like when you landed them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we went out. We went out there to the Hamptons
Speaker 1: and we met with him, and part of it was
Speaker 1: again kind of just said like we knew who we
Speaker 1: were as a unit and knew it what kind of
Speaker 1: us and he was and obviously his skill set and
Speaker 1: I'm matching, so it makes sense. Let's go, let's go
Speaker 1: get this dude. A lot of people are talking about
Speaker 1: me comeing out of the m VP year and the
Speaker 1: sacrifice and all that type of stuff, like it's about winning.
Speaker 1: Like obviously that does go through your mind, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I might not have twenty two shots this year, it
Speaker 1: might be like nineteen and some change and play a
Speaker 1: different style. But for the most part, it wasn't really
Speaker 1: that drastic of a change. You know, we know how
Speaker 1: we're gonna get our shots, and everybody has a different style.
Speaker 1: Nobody really stepped on each other's toes, and so it
Speaker 1: made sense. Um, I didn't know until he called me
Speaker 1: the morning of his decision. I was in Hawaii actually,
Speaker 1: so the time differences. I was asleep and I woke
Speaker 1: up to seventy eight text measures and calls like like
Speaker 1: he was you know, I hit him back, and just
Speaker 1: that's that was the start of of three great years,
Speaker 1: um that we'll remember for a very long time. And
Speaker 1: all the all the stuff that uh that's happened, that
Speaker 1: happened last year, and and uh and obviously the unfortunate
Speaker 1: injury and all that type of stuff is a tough
Speaker 1: ending to an amazing, you know, time period, you know,
Speaker 1: being for the Warriors. But man, we've got two ships,
Speaker 1: almost got three, like the hell of a run. Tell
Speaker 1: me what it was like, because, like I said, you
Speaker 1: guys had your identity and knew who you were as
Speaker 1: a ball club and knew each other like the back
Speaker 1: of your hand. Tell me what kind of sacrifice it
Speaker 1: took from you know, he said, you're coming off as
Speaker 1: you have the unanimous MVP previous year, right, first time
Speaker 1: in history, Clay is being Clay Draymond a fucking dog.
Speaker 1: So tell me what it was like when you get
Speaker 1: some of his caliber and then how everyone it seemed
Speaker 1: I wasn't there at the beginning. I got a taste
Speaker 1: of it. But it's seamless from the beginning, like everyone
Speaker 1: checked their egos and checked you know, the most important
Speaker 1: thing was winning. Yeah, the egos are checked for sure,
Speaker 1: I say that. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: we all gotta keep by you, right if we all
Speaker 1: have our best version of ourselves, like selfless the better word. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that. So that was that was that was
Speaker 1: known from the jump um on the court like excess
Speaker 1: and those and just stout. I said, it wasn't a
Speaker 1: big adjustment for me, but I had to make the
Speaker 1: biggest adjustment in terms of you know, Draymond such an
Speaker 1: amazing playmaker, and we had an offense where we could
Speaker 1: get him the ball and uh, guys are just moving
Speaker 1: around setting screens for each other. Somebody's can get open
Speaker 1: and he was gonna make the past. Kay can play
Speaker 1: in that style. He can also just get the ball
Speaker 1: anywhere he wants to and one on one and let
Speaker 1: stopping and clay. Same thing. All he needs is this
Speaker 1: much daylight and he's yes, true, he's so good moving
Speaker 1: out the ball um. All he needs is a touch
Speaker 1: and is going up my pick and roll stuff, which
Speaker 1: I was kind of the bread and butter of you know,
Speaker 1: the two years prior to the m VP years and all,
Speaker 1: that wasn't that many opportunities because that was like the
Speaker 1: fourth option in terms of, you know, I was getting
Speaker 1: a good shot because we're all threats on the floor.
Speaker 1: So that first like two or three months, it was
Speaker 1: just a subtle adjustment in terms of for me just knowing,
Speaker 1: you know, when I was gonna be able to dominate
Speaker 1: in certain stretches of the game, and like how we
Speaker 1: could balance all of that. And once we figure that out, Uh,
Speaker 1: we had a good run. K got hurt. Actually, Uh,
Speaker 1: I think like February, Yeah, yeah, which is a crazy
Speaker 1: story because two guys got jerseys for like a half
Speaker 1: crazy right here. That Yeah, it was crazy. Thankfully we
Speaker 1: got the right guy, and uh we went on a
Speaker 1: little run when you came. Ka was out, and that
Speaker 1: helped everybody understand like this, this this system is gonna work.
Speaker 1: K is gonna come back healthy. We're gonna hit the
Speaker 1: ground running for the playoffs. And we went in sixteen
Speaker 1: and one in the in the in the in the
Speaker 1: playoffs and one. So uh, just the a collection of
Speaker 1: guys that just wanted to hoop and play basketball at
Speaker 1: the highest level and didn't care how it's gonna get done.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna we're gonna make it happen. And uh
Speaker 1: we did all right. Like I said, I was blessed
Speaker 1: to be able to come in and watch you guys
Speaker 1: and be a part of that. But what I saw
Speaker 1: from the outside looking at is when I got a
Speaker 1: chance to be on the inside, and then after I
Speaker 1: was on the outside again, did you guys ever feel
Speaker 1: actually speak for yourself? It always seemed like the media
Speaker 1: tried to make it Katie and the Warriors. Did you
Speaker 1: guys feel that? I definitely felt that, And that was
Speaker 1: I mean, anytime you have greatness, they're gonna try to
Speaker 1: break one way, to find some way to to just
Speaker 1: get their foot in the door. So yeah, it was
Speaker 1: always like the draft, the drafted guys, plus you know
Speaker 1: the higher distassin Katie unfair with It was never this.
Speaker 1: There was always like the Warriors and Katie. I mean,
Speaker 1: as a fortunate as that narrative is, it couldn't have
Speaker 1: been further from the guy. So like, that's the hard
Speaker 1: part when you when you at the top, like it's
Speaker 1: a daily reminded you have to come in with the
Speaker 1: right perspective, because after one one person slips or one rumor,
Speaker 1: narrative submense itself in your head, like we were on
Speaker 1: spot like all the time, man, Like, don't think people
Speaker 1: appreciate that part of every single day. It was crazy too,
Speaker 1: because when I came in, like you said, we went
Speaker 1: on a cooler to run, and like, not because of me,
Speaker 1: it was just because of what that we know that
Speaker 1: obvious is what I was trying to port. That came
Speaker 1: out wrong, right, It was. The record was good, though
Speaker 1: what I meant to say was way to not contribute
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, so I don't even count that championship.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that later. But I appreciate I appreciate
Speaker 1: the free ride. What I meant to say was we
Speaker 1: went on a hell of a run when Katie was out.
Speaker 1: But you would hear those rumors like look how good
Speaker 1: they're doing without him, and I'm just like, damn, people
Speaker 1: really talk like this not knowing. I appreciate people not
Speaker 1: knowing like how good he is. But like they say,
Speaker 1: they'll see the team doing what they're doing and you know,
Speaker 1: staying on that consistent pace, and you start hearing like,
Speaker 1: oh well, they don't even need, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: that's insane, like you know, but realized, how motherfucker did
Speaker 1: this guy is I'm good that you're sick. You finally
Speaker 1: had a moment. I'm just saying, came out wrong. You
Speaker 1: say at the pig pussy fort, that's how that's how
Speaker 1: blatantly obviously it was one thing before we transition, man,
Speaker 1: I wanted to touch on, is it explain explain Draymond
Speaker 1: to people who don't know Draymond, because I think he's
Speaker 1: one of the most misunderstood people. Got a good heart,
Speaker 1: but sometimes it comes off the wrong way, and it's
Speaker 1: sometimes it's problem ful. Sometimes that's what's needed. Explain who
Speaker 1: he is in your first The first way I explained
Speaker 1: him is that Draymond and basketball player is not Draymond
Speaker 1: the person, right, So like we all know Draymond the person.
Speaker 1: Nicest dude, Karen, do you always checking in on you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's loyal, like everything about him, like off the court
Speaker 1: is somebody you want like around, you want somebody in
Speaker 1: your camp, like like dreaming on the court, the same
Speaker 1: way he comes with that passion comes you know a
Speaker 1: lot of volatility in terms of you know, it could
Speaker 1: it galvanized us as a team. Make sure you know,
Speaker 1: we got a lot of nice guys finess games and
Speaker 1: myself included, like you need that fire like somebody that's
Speaker 1: that bulldog. And sometimes he'll admit the same thing, like sometimes, um,
Speaker 1: it does get in his way because it might distract
Speaker 1: from just playing basketball. But over the course of whatever,
Speaker 1: the nine seasons we've been playing together, I'm taking that
Speaker 1: every single day of the week, and so and the
Speaker 1: and the bad is that's an opportunity to learn, right,
Speaker 1: Like that's that's that's that narrative is kind of tough
Speaker 1: because his transgressions were just exposed on the court, Like
Speaker 1: and the guy that he was what you know, first
Speaker 1: championship run whatever, is not the same dude, and he's
Speaker 1: evolved and learned and like we all have. It's just
Speaker 1: you know, he wears everything on the sleeve and so
Speaker 1: everybody gets to have that journey with him almost he's
Speaker 1: like the dad out there now, like he's you know,
Speaker 1: having rested that great minds out there playing like you know,
Speaker 1: twenty something. It is the game. I talked to him
Speaker 1: here and here and there, and it's just he's just
Speaker 1: a good dude. Man. He takes everything in stride and
Speaker 1: has peop don't understand how intelligent he is and and
Speaker 1: his basketball mind is is second to none. It is.
Speaker 1: I think Andre said it like he's his i Q
Speaker 1: is is the best he's ever seen. And and either
Speaker 1: it comes out with him trying to make an adjustment
Speaker 1: or it comes out and what he says to a
Speaker 1: certain person at a certain time to get them to
Speaker 1: do what he wants him to do to help the
Speaker 1: team win. Um, him understanding his own game and how
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the most effective out there every single night.
Speaker 1: Him knowing every single player in this league and on
Speaker 1: every tendency you have, every pet movie, he would understand. Man,
Speaker 1: his mind is sick. Mind is sick. So yeah, that's
Speaker 1: my that's my guy. So what do you like to
Speaker 1: do now that you know you're down for a while?
Speaker 1: You you haven't had this as a professional, like when
Speaker 1: you know extended amount of time down, Like what are you?
Speaker 1: What are you doing right now? The crazy part is
Speaker 1: like I have three kids, seven, four and one, and
Speaker 1: the first like three weeks, I was hurt and I
Speaker 1: was just quitter, like to stay at home there like
Speaker 1: doing all the stuff that I've always wanted to do,
Speaker 1: like take him to school, you know, pick them up.
Speaker 1: That all the extracurricular activities, my daughters and horseback riding,
Speaker 1: you know, playing soccer, like just being at every event
Speaker 1: without an excuse that I gotta go somewhere, I gotta
Speaker 1: be on the road trip and stuff. It was uncomfortable
Speaker 1: because I was instill in that competitive mindset and I
Speaker 1: didn't really know how to you know, use my free
Speaker 1: time because everything was centered around you know practice or
Speaker 1: pre practice routines, practice post practice recovery and get ready
Speaker 1: for game days and traveling all that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: So when all that's taken away, it's kind of an
Speaker 1: uncomfortable like you know reality for a little bit. But now,
Speaker 1: um knowing I still got you know, months to to
Speaker 1: get back and get healthy, um trying to lean into stuff.
Speaker 1: I got all off the court a little bit obviously
Speaker 1: as a as a teammate, I haven't been at the
Speaker 1: games because I've been down here, you know with surgery
Speaker 1: and rehab. But you still gotta be you know, president
Speaker 1: leader and help these guys you know, developed, because this
Speaker 1: is gonna help set us up for for years to come.
Speaker 1: But um, in terms of balance, and the stuff that
Speaker 1: I have on and off the course another opportunity just
Speaker 1: kind of get your mind right and personally just get
Speaker 1: a perspective on you know, what's important. And for me, like,
Speaker 1: I got a lot of cool opportunities off the court man,
Speaker 1: like doing some stuff in production uh side down here
Speaker 1: with my company Unanimous, who's doing stuff with Sony. Y'all know,
Speaker 1: I love to play golf and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: opportunities in the golf business that hopefully I can influence
Speaker 1: and inspire. H Can you talk I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about some of the stuff you're doing because you're
Speaker 1: doing some amazing stuff that I think you got highlighted,
Speaker 1: but people don't understand what you're doing. Can you explain
Speaker 1: to what you're doing at the colleges and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So like in the golf space, UM, I've been playing
Speaker 1: since I was ten, and you know, it's a predominantly male, white,
Speaker 1: male dominant sport and it's expensive to play and it's
Speaker 1: really hard to get in and so trying to grow
Speaker 1: the game, UM, to underrepresent the communities. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of talent. They just needed the opportunity to be able
Speaker 1: to get out there and understand what you know, you
Speaker 1: know how to play and and gets that support so
Speaker 1: that they can compete. And so because that provides so
Speaker 1: many opportunities and in this day and age, and so
Speaker 1: part of that was, like, um, Howard University had a
Speaker 1: Division one golf team like way way back and they
Speaker 1: lost funding. Um there's a lot of HBCUs that have
Speaker 1: a golf program, but Howard didn't. And so part of uh,
Speaker 1: you know, my aim to grow the game and get
Speaker 1: some exposure around it was to try to bring the
Speaker 1: Division one golf program back. And so I sponsored the
Speaker 1: team that's gonna start next year. It's gonna be Division
Speaker 1: one golf program. Um, we're gonna have three or two
Speaker 1: scholarship UM golfers, both two men to women to start
Speaker 1: the first team and uh and hopefully be able to
Speaker 1: set up an endowment over the next six years where
Speaker 1: that's gonna be something that's gonna be around forever. So UM,
Speaker 1: it's exciting, man, because you know, I think not many
Speaker 1: people know how how great of a game it is one,
Speaker 1: but but to just how many opportunities you have you
Speaker 1: can go to school and play golf and get an education,
Speaker 1: especially like the place like Howard like that says the
Speaker 1: rest of your life. And you can use golf just
Speaker 1: like we use basketball as it was a vehicle to
Speaker 1: do it. So it's pretty cool. Your dad said once
Speaker 1: that if you didn't play basketball, you probably could have
Speaker 1: went pro and golf. He said that, I I kind
Speaker 1: of believe it because how hard, how hard I worked
Speaker 1: at fact I wasn't playing that same thing, but always
Speaker 1: like hesitate to say it because I respect respect. It
Speaker 1: was a profession. I've seen him play and just it's
Speaker 1: just another level, man, And for me to just go
Speaker 1: ahead and wild out and say I could be a
Speaker 1: fresh golfer, Like I wish somebody would say I could
Speaker 1: be fresh and they playing, you know you couldn't. But
Speaker 1: I think I said I was playing for a long time.
Speaker 1: I love the game. I'm I'm I'm a golf junkie,
Speaker 1: golf nerd. It's kind of I'm kind of obsessed just
Speaker 1: being on the sideline, you know, watching I know it sucks.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've all been hurt, we've all been on
Speaker 1: side and I've never played. But watching your team go
Speaker 1: through what they're going through right now and not being
Speaker 1: not that the league, you know what that's like what
Speaker 1: is that? Like? Is that frustrating? Come frustrating? Um, Like
Speaker 1: when you're in the win, in the fighting and that
Speaker 1: like in the run that we are. It's so it's
Speaker 1: hard to separate yourself and really like be okay with Okay,
Speaker 1: this might not be our year. Like that's a really
Speaker 1: hard thing to to accept. Um. But it's all apart
Speaker 1: like history and NBA, like nobody's had a run like
Speaker 1: we've had. And if you look like the Spurs teams
Speaker 1: in the past, like they never they never went back
Speaker 1: to back, right, but they had seventeen year run where
Speaker 1: they were just dominant and uh and they were able
Speaker 1: to figure it out over time and put different pieces
Speaker 1: together with their core. And that's kind of like what
Speaker 1: we have the opportunity to do now going into you know,
Speaker 1: next year and beyond. So uh yeah, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: the best way. It's still it's still kind of still new.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's it's it's comfortable yet, but there
Speaker 1: is an understanding of just where we are balancing, you know,
Speaker 1: these last five years and what's what's the you got
Speaker 1: plus you got pluses on the team. Pascal Ball is
Speaker 1: good to see he and he he's that dude, like
Speaker 1: just the confidence because it's just how hard he works.
Speaker 1: But you can't teach that right, you can't be born
Speaker 1: with you gotta be born with it. You gotta be
Speaker 1: able to step on the floor and have that that
Speaker 1: presence and like the man like I'm here and he's
Speaker 1: definitely shown that. Kyle Oman, who uh is our two
Speaker 1: AY player, Damian Lee are two A player. They both
Speaker 1: have promising futures in the league and hopefully we can
Speaker 1: keep them around. Um, you know a lot of guys
Speaker 1: that just like my rookie years stone in the fire,
Speaker 1: learned on the court like and part of the conversation
Speaker 1: with those guys, I think that's the we all know.
Speaker 1: That's a much better way to learn as opposed to
Speaker 1: most reas just get camped on the bench or in
Speaker 1: then the G League and have to uh to learn
Speaker 1: about watching. Um, I'd rather have this experience and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be It's gonna be huge for them down the road.
Speaker 1: Tell me what it was like. It's kind of a
Speaker 1: two part you're on the way uh leaving Oracle went
Speaker 1: that was like, but then the Jersey run you had
Speaker 1: kind of representing our old squad man salute. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was as the O G of the team and like
Speaker 1: the only one that uh you know from from the
Speaker 1: froman and you know, it's my tenth yer in the league.
Speaker 1: And so it's a cool opportunity. I called it ten
Speaker 1: for ten in the town. So I had my current sixes.
Speaker 1: I had a whole color way slate that was kind
Speaker 1: of highlighted stories of um, of my my journey throughout
Speaker 1: you know, those ten years, and my connection to Oakland
Speaker 1: and our family base over there. And it was a
Speaker 1: cool opportunity just honored that the last forty seven years
Speaker 1: playing in the Oracle because of how much you know
Speaker 1: history there is, how Oakland's riding down and good bad
Speaker 1: everything and uh and so like part of that last
Speaker 1: like five home games, Uh, I picked five people to
Speaker 1: kind of honor them and their presence with you know,
Speaker 1: with for dubbed nation with the old school jerseys and
Speaker 1: all that. So, um, this was it. Uh, Stack was
Speaker 1: first b D Monte Andrew's bidrons Google wherever you're you're
Speaker 1: somewhere getting drunk. I know right now everybody black black.
Speaker 1: But so it was a cool opportunity just to just
Speaker 1: highlighted man because we were. Everybody knew we were moving
Speaker 1: to Chase Center, and I mean, whether you whether you
Speaker 1: liked it or not, it was happening. We appreciated. Man,
Speaker 1: that was good. I couldn't believe that. On my social media,
Speaker 1: I've seen Draymond wearing it was crazy because we had
Speaker 1: to feel more five. That's what we were. We were
Speaker 1: in the streets of San Francisco doing it. We shouldn't
Speaker 1: do that. And then you guys are the Hampton five.
Speaker 1: You guys are a little more studious. It was because
Speaker 1: I was very smarter than we were. But when I
Speaker 1: got a chance to play, you know, I said, I
Speaker 1: briefly got a chance to come back and play with
Speaker 1: you guys. Like the love out there for that team
Speaker 1: and when we had built was crazy, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And then you were huge and and always
Speaker 1: honor in our team. And then I remember the year
Speaker 1: we we I want to champion you guys in seventeen,
Speaker 1: like you wore the we Believe warm up shirts. So
Speaker 1: you guys, you guys always showed loving it. It was
Speaker 1: kind of assembled what Oakland in the Bayery. It was
Speaker 1: like as a whole because they always paid homage, like
Speaker 1: it was crazy. The love they showed in those fans,
Speaker 1: how much they appreciate that. I said, I won the
Speaker 1: championship with San Antonio, but the Wars organization is the
Speaker 1: only team that made me feel like family. Every year
Speaker 1: they bring me back, made me feel like made me
Speaker 1: feel like they appreciate what I've done my time. Then
Speaker 1: that's the only team That've done in my career. It's crazy, man,
Speaker 1: it's great. Shout out the War down and they got pictures,
Speaker 1: they got some pictures. I was up in the north.
Speaker 1: It's a whole journey. But like, do we believe and
Speaker 1: in our in our championship run, that's dominance, So we
Speaker 1: gotta go check it out there. We got to the
Speaker 1: last thing on Oracle. What was your most fondest memory
Speaker 1: or best game that comes to mind? Um? There? Uh,
Speaker 1: I mean I think most probably winning the the finals
Speaker 1: there and celebrating with all the fans like we had
Speaker 1: been waiting a whole year to have that, because we
Speaker 1: had two opportunities to do it the year before and
Speaker 1: and got beat and the next year we got it done.
Speaker 1: You know, celebrate where you win home. We went at
Speaker 1: home from our game six. Was not like when when
Speaker 1: they wanted that's how it was celebrated at the house.
Speaker 1: I felt like, I felt like we wanted a warrior,
Speaker 1: but I'm a warrior. I saw so like just watching
Speaker 1: the clock run down, just seeing all our fans stick around.
Speaker 1: Fatty was driving and put the stage down, like all
Speaker 1: our families are out there and you just celebrating the championship.
Speaker 1: But you and your home venue like the town. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the town. I wanted to wear my jersey out
Speaker 1: of there, artest ship. And you couldn't tell my kids
Speaker 1: they weren't on the team. They were holding trying to
Speaker 1: hold steps trophy, trying to hold the m v P
Speaker 1: like they were in the mix of kids and something.
Speaker 1: People hit me up like, Yo, yourselths are all over
Speaker 1: ESPN like they were upfront, like you would have thought
Speaker 1: they were steph kids. We gotta salute you with that
Speaker 1: bad for getting them both rings. Like what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: we gotta salute you for that. You know what I'm saying, Dad,
Speaker 1: We gotta give your props. We don't get you while
Speaker 1: you still here. I did as much as they did
Speaker 1: in the playoff front, but I appreciate that your sons
Speaker 1: probably played more than That's what I just said I
Speaker 1: did as much as the twin. I was hurt though.
Speaker 1: I have the fund up part though, because I finally
Speaker 1: get a chance. Like my whole thing is I took
Speaker 1: less money to win, and I in the sit where
Speaker 1: I can win, so that I come in because Katie
Speaker 1: gets hurt, you know, play well and then the game
Speaker 1: Katie comes back, like I almost break my ankle, So
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, a right funk, I gotta hurry. If can
Speaker 1: get this ankle, he want to play that, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: win a championship. So for me, like when I tell
Speaker 1: people the story in the seting with the seventeen stuff,
Speaker 1: I don't really count the ring because I was someone
Speaker 1: who always I had to get out the mud, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, so I wasn't out here fighting with these guys.
Speaker 1: I was in and out Patrick all three of his
Speaker 1: you got to count. It is different. It's different going
Speaker 1: to shine the same. Your name is on that roster.
Speaker 1: I think when they say NBA champions, when they introduced
Speaker 1: me and you want ship, they say two NBA champions
Speaker 1: out of here, that should county. I don't want to
Speaker 1: hear that. You think Ray still got my I got
Speaker 1: a truck right down and get my ring because I
Speaker 1: left it at the thing because I wait, what when
Speaker 1: they came in introduced it to me, they had locked
Speaker 1: it up before they locked it up during the game.
Speaker 1: For me, it's only one we know who is right
Speaker 1: from Oakland. He got locked out. You got a locked
Speaker 1: down transitioning um, meeting your wife at fifteen and having
Speaker 1: a public relate. We had d Wade and we spoke
Speaker 1: to d Wade. Uh, you know about a public relationship
Speaker 1: and your wife is obviously blazing her own path. But
Speaker 1: tell me what that's like. You know, obviously a childhood
Speaker 1: love that's transitioned into a beautiful marriage with the family
Speaker 1: and kind of the prototypical like this is like the
Speaker 1: new family that the curries, or you know, a power movement,
Speaker 1: which is wild to say because I'm just living my life. Man.
Speaker 1: You know you saw that, you know you saw on Instagram.
Speaker 1: But to get you, I used to care. But to
Speaker 1: get you, I used to care. I thought you saw
Speaker 1: that all over Instagram. Know I had to feel good.
Speaker 1: I got anyone man, like you got one. But it's weird.
Speaker 1: It's wild because like I was talking about as as
Speaker 1: my dad and my mom, how they raised us her
Speaker 1: her parents are saying, like, there's always perspective, right, And
Speaker 1: I grew up in the NBA, but I was just
Speaker 1: a kid man, and I had a really cool child experience.
Speaker 1: Like fifteen, I meets We don't we're out dating high school,
Speaker 1: but um, you know, we talked a little bit. And
Speaker 1: fast forward with four years. I'm out in l A
Speaker 1: at the s p's because uh we just went to
Speaker 1: our terment, run and me and this is me and
Speaker 1: my dad flying from Charlotte. I've never been to l
Speaker 1: A before. I here for the s I was like,
Speaker 1: I remember, I remembers. I remember she moved out here
Speaker 1: because she was out here pursuing acting. So she had
Speaker 1: graduate from high school and came right out here to
Speaker 1: pursue acting. But we weren't talking at all. So I
Speaker 1: hit her up and I was like, Hey, I'm out
Speaker 1: in l A like chilling whatever, Like you gotta show
Speaker 1: me arounds. Ain't never been out here before. So we
Speaker 1: reconnected then, and like a couple of months later, she
Speaker 1: had moved back to Charlotte and I'm still at Davidson,
Speaker 1: which was like thirty thirty minutes away, so we got
Speaker 1: to kind of keep it going um. And from there,
Speaker 1: like we were just two kids just enjoying life together
Speaker 1: and not really normal was about to happen. Um. And
Speaker 1: when I get to the league, like again, I'm just
Speaker 1: living my life. As as the spotlight starts to grow
Speaker 1: and all that you're dealt with judgments and expectations and
Speaker 1: everybody just wants to know every step you take and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And it's kind of uncomfortable at times
Speaker 1: because as human as you react to stuff like stuff
Speaker 1: that said about you and your family and all that
Speaker 1: type of stuff, and and the personally is like you
Speaker 1: want to take it a stride and like you don't
Speaker 1: want to react to everything because you'll lose your mind. Um,
Speaker 1: But you want to protect the integrity of relationship we started,
Speaker 1: you know, way back when. So it'sn't ever changing kind
Speaker 1: of thing for us. Because even as you bring kids
Speaker 1: in this world, like how are you going to raise
Speaker 1: them with this spotlight as well? And keep their minds
Speaker 1: right direction and give them perspective and give them a
Speaker 1: chance to have a quote unquote normal childhood and stuff.
Speaker 1: So a lot of responsibilities, but God, don't make no
Speaker 1: mistakes man. For me and and her, like I think
Speaker 1: we we appreciate the ability to inspire and impact people
Speaker 1: because of our relationship. Like that's if we can do it.
Speaker 1: Like we're not afect, got ups and downs and there's
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, challenges and like every other relationship
Speaker 1: in this in this in this world. But um, if
Speaker 1: we can kind of persevere through all that stuff, man,
Speaker 1: we can be an inspiration expectation. Feel like what it
Speaker 1: means to to find somebody you want to share life with.
Speaker 1: And I don't wanta get too sappy, but like that's real, real,
Speaker 1: it's real, right, and it's rare too, especially in our profession,
Speaker 1: you know, so I think it's dope. The example you
Speaker 1: guys said, it's amazing, So I'm trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: You look me forever to find him, but you did
Speaker 1: mean only eight kids, seven kids later, he's still looking.
Speaker 1: Dude though, you're a very proud father, you know, your
Speaker 1: daughters or your world when you finally got that little boy. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's what that's like, man. He is something lighter skin
Speaker 1: saying come out shooting from he You're gonna come out shot, Kenny.
Speaker 1: You got you got it locked and loaded in the
Speaker 1: diaper right now. He's seventeen months. Man, he's he's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Uh named after my my granddad was Cannon Wardelle Jack.
Speaker 1: That was my granddad's name. And so uh he's the
Speaker 1: first real boy and neither side. Uh first boy grand baby.
Speaker 1: So he's he's spoiled, rotten. Uh, but he's unbelievable. It's
Speaker 1: kind of cool to see our old two older girls
Speaker 1: liked not just be about them anymore. And and and
Speaker 1: uh they what low key? I feel like I just
Speaker 1: met him. My wife, My wife is holding him hostage
Speaker 1: the whole first year. Now the girls got a hold
Speaker 1: of him, like Cannon, I'm over here. Man, that's kind
Speaker 1: of looking like when when you get five and get
Speaker 1: the gym on that ball told him, you know, he's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: So when we blessed seven four and one, like I said,
Speaker 1: that's amazing ages right now coming into that little personality, Dope,
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it. It's like crazy thing, just like you know,
Speaker 1: like you said, taking a kiss of the game, Like
Speaker 1: the first time I gotta take my son and say
Speaker 1: him on the bench and my dad was there next
Speaker 1: to him, and like just thinking about like that used
Speaker 1: to be me, man, Yeah, that part of it still
Speaker 1: was crazy. We'll talk to on your girls too, because
Speaker 1: off camera you told us that they designed these shoes
Speaker 1: right here, put them up on the table. Jack putting
Speaker 1: the Jordan's up on the table. Tell us, tell us
Speaker 1: about the man inspiration through the girls. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: uh I gave I gave Riley she's seven, that I
Speaker 1: gave her and her sister and Ryan who's four, the
Speaker 1: cat drawings to the you know these shoes. It's probably
Speaker 1: what a year ago, so these were just in the makings.
Speaker 1: And told her you just go, Daddy's gonna make a
Speaker 1: new shoe, but I want you to design it. And
Speaker 1: so you should see the focus on the first bro.
Speaker 1: She when you put a task and fund, she took
Speaker 1: the took the drawing and got the crayons out and
Speaker 1: just went to work. And uh I told her to
Speaker 1: make like a bunch of different options and then bring
Speaker 1: me what her favorite one was. So I only stick
Speaker 1: to the first one. Like just let lew when we
Speaker 1: went through this whole process. Man, she she did it
Speaker 1: and you a put it together. I got the Riley specials,
Speaker 1: the draft. He asked Cheetah girls like she just started
Speaker 1: watching it. It's crazy. Now we got to bring back
Speaker 1: all old shows, like the shows we used to grow
Speaker 1: up on. I'm not saying I grew up cheata girls,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Another bring like showing up.
Speaker 1: We watched Home Alone, the first one we just want
Speaker 1: the other night with the fan They're like, what is this?
Speaker 1: But they loved it. The Yeah, all the classics, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's we get to relive out you a little bit
Speaker 1: and tell me what is I mean? Think about it
Speaker 1: while we're talking about shoes, mid major out of Davidson
Speaker 1: and then you come out change the face of the
Speaker 1: game and you got your own shoes, Like tell me
Speaker 1: what kind of dream? And this run has been like
Speaker 1: for you, like you know, you know you're the light
Speaker 1: skin of sass, like you change the NBA. Did you
Speaker 1: believe that can ye done to the game? I can't
Speaker 1: because I grew up watching them. And um, I remember
Speaker 1: the first pair of signature shoes I had. I had
Speaker 1: some shocks, like besides of Georgan's, I had some shocks
Speaker 1: and that was the ones I used to rock in
Speaker 1: the games all the time in high school. And like
Speaker 1: thinking about uh being a position where seventh going on
Speaker 1: a shoe and represent the brand like like you A
Speaker 1: and and the team and changing the game like all
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. It's just crazy because I don't
Speaker 1: think you ever have time to stop. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I should, Like, you don't have time to stop
Speaker 1: and just think about it all perspective because you're still
Speaker 1: on that chase in the moment. Uh. It's it's crazy, man.
Speaker 1: The coolest part like when you're walking down the street
Speaker 1: somewhere and you see, uh, you know, somebody rocking your
Speaker 1: kicks like you. I just want to know, like why,
Speaker 1: like why are you connect with it or why do
Speaker 1: you want to rock them? Like? I know they hopefully
Speaker 1: make you shoot better, but it's like that part of
Speaker 1: people connect to see your story. You want to rock
Speaker 1: your gear? That's crazy. I heard. I was listening to
Speaker 1: his podcasts the other day. You can get let with
Speaker 1: two pair of these for that. I heard, come on,
Speaker 1: were talking about the shoes. I said, you might get
Speaker 1: pay about two three? How you get that? Lets you
Speaker 1: know that, you bro, that's a good one. But that's
Speaker 1: a funny story. I remember what you know. I've been
Speaker 1: talking about the Twins so much because they really funk
Speaker 1: with you. But I remember when I was playing for
Speaker 1: the Clippers. Then it was career day and one twin
Speaker 1: came out with my jersey and one twin came out
Speaker 1: with step jersey. Is like, Dad, I'm sorry, and people like, oh,
Speaker 1: he doesn't. Like I was like, I can't be made
Speaker 1: like Steph. I mean, come on, man, it's Steff, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I think it's dope to
Speaker 1: be able to Like I said, what what you mean
Speaker 1: to this next generation is really mad? Like I said,
Speaker 1: we talked about the game you change, but like I
Speaker 1: coached the next generation and you're the guy. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I said, it's handling and learning
Speaker 1: how to shoot, you know, man, So it's really hatsoft
Speaker 1: really what you've been able to accomplish up to this point.
Speaker 1: Although the stories still you know, plenty of plenty more
Speaker 1: to write. You've been able to do a lot in
Speaker 1: this space. Man, we appreciate you as hey. I said,
Speaker 1: Ai his top five players of all time. He said,
Speaker 1: you like that. You know it's funny. I have that
Speaker 1: saved on my phone because that that's that's so that's
Speaker 1: like I talked to all the time. We tell because
Speaker 1: like ten times through the conversation. But like for him
Speaker 1: to say that, it's crazy right, like I'm never gonna
Speaker 1: get never I ain't ever have a big head where
Speaker 1: you like that, dude, I I picked up a lot
Speaker 1: of the game and inspiration from that. He's now looking
Speaker 1: at my game like, yo, he's my one of my
Speaker 1: favorite PG. Like that's for him to say that. At
Speaker 1: the same way, like he said, there's so much love
Speaker 1: for me as well, and in the spirit of the
Speaker 1: times where we know, like some o gs they don't
Speaker 1: want to relinquish the and that part of it, like
Speaker 1: when you see the guys actually like the same way
Speaker 1: we respect the os like we wanted both ways. So
Speaker 1: when you do hear that, that means that means something, man,
Speaker 1: for sure, up man um, I heard a rumor that
Speaker 1: your mom finds you a hundred dollars for every three turners.
Speaker 1: That true, it was anything. Yeah, three turners. I had
Speaker 1: to give a hundred dollars and so she got a
Speaker 1: lot of handbags. Let's put it crazy and she'll be
Speaker 1: up there like you be yelling at me, but she'd
Speaker 1: be mad happy. At the same time, he's coming into
Speaker 1: I need hundred I need stephree more turnovers tonight and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get this bad. Yeah, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: sports be over there with my assist turnover ratio and
Speaker 1: she's like, but I'm enjoying it too. Explain your your
Speaker 1: relationship with Nipsey. Obviously, you know he was someone I
Speaker 1: looked up to, admire, got to be friend and come
Speaker 1: close to, you know, to us, he's a legend. He's
Speaker 1: on the wall. Tell us what your relationship Like. I
Speaker 1: talked to Jay Rock the day, so he said, what
Speaker 1: up to I mean, I I got to know him
Speaker 1: the year before he passed, and uh, he came on
Speaker 1: my five Minutes from Home show to time ez day
Speaker 1: that came up to the bay. You know, we hopped
Speaker 1: in the back of the sprinter and like part of
Speaker 1: that film and it's usually only takes like an hour
Speaker 1: to get you know, the footage. You have a good
Speaker 1: conversation all that. Like I feel like I was talking
Speaker 1: to him for way longer than that, just because of
Speaker 1: how real he was and his perspective on life, and
Speaker 1: like the way he talked about his daughter and raising
Speaker 1: her and his relationship with Lauren, like all that type
Speaker 1: of stuff was just real. And obviously his music, you know,
Speaker 1: it stands for herself. But um, you have God in
Speaker 1: the spotlight that you know, it has a story and
Speaker 1: has a journey and is able to turn that into
Speaker 1: inspiration you know, beyond any probably anything he imagined. But
Speaker 1: the way that he carries himself speaks about more than
Speaker 1: anything that he does and the work that he does
Speaker 1: in the community and all that type of stuff that
Speaker 1: you know, his legacy is gonna live on forever. Um.
Speaker 1: But it's just like I was. It shook me because
Speaker 1: I just I literally just met him and you know,
Speaker 1: you you appreciate people like that that have an impact
Speaker 1: on you. Um. But I'm sure somewhere you felt like
Speaker 1: you knew him forever because that's how open, real and
Speaker 1: raw he is. It's like, it's exactly why I watched
Speaker 1: that episode. I've watched it probably five or six times
Speaker 1: since since, uh, since you did, because there's so many
Speaker 1: gyms in there from him in terms of yeah all
Speaker 1: the time. Um, anyway, he speaks just us approachable like you.
Speaker 1: He takes you on a journey to like you can
Speaker 1: tell like the's authentic and and that that part of
Speaker 1: it is uh and special, so you know, to his
Speaker 1: family and all that, Um, you know, I know everybody
Speaker 1: has the back and and uh, the legacy he leaves,
Speaker 1: we we all have to carry it right, you know,
Speaker 1: you know all you know a special unique way. So
Speaker 1: with them rest in peace. Now we saw that you
Speaker 1: attended Kanye Sunday Service. What was that like? Please tell
Speaker 1: me what that was like? Was? I absolutely loved it? Bro?
Speaker 1: Like the Sunday Service is for I don't I don't
Speaker 1: put this one. I don't care somebody's passed. You know
Speaker 1: what they stand for, Like you cannot agree with somebody,
Speaker 1: um and in any and everything that they say. But
Speaker 1: when they come in and I think it's when they
Speaker 1: come in and represent Jesus and they're talking and everything
Speaker 1: that they do and the music and the vibe and
Speaker 1: the spirit that that that you feel in that place,
Speaker 1: like it was it did something to me, like in
Speaker 1: terms of you know that what two and a half
Speaker 1: hour you know experience and so, um, I'm rooting for him, man,
Speaker 1: like I'm rooting for him in terms of what he's doing,
Speaker 1: the journey that he's on. Um, you know, if if
Speaker 1: if he can change or you can believe that that
Speaker 1: that's positive to anybody can that's and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to discredit you know, my God and that in that respect,
Speaker 1: And so I was I was curious about because I
Speaker 1: heard so many people go on and and just you know,
Speaker 1: the the choir or the collective you know their name,
Speaker 1: and with Kanye and just from his album and all
Speaker 1: that type of stuff, like I wanted to experience and
Speaker 1: I had a great time. Man, it was it was
Speaker 1: legit him. That's one thing Jack says, you know, we
Speaker 1: we don't have to always agree with what Ione saying. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll keep that line of respect, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think just in culture today at the disrespect is
Speaker 1: you have to sit down and have a conversation too.
Speaker 1: Like that just the normal part of his Yeah, being
Speaker 1: able to open that door and have some actual progress,
Speaker 1: because if not, we're just gonna sit on the other
Speaker 1: side of line and just yell at each other the
Speaker 1: whole time, or like Cash Judgment to talk you know,
Speaker 1: some trash about you and nothing's gonna happen. So for
Speaker 1: him to put himself out there too, that's the thing
Speaker 1: for me, Like, that's huge. So I'm rooting for what
Speaker 1: are you listening to or right now? With the top
Speaker 1: five artists? M hmm. I still write with Loup at fiasco. Hush, Uh,
Speaker 1: what's crazy? He's from Charlotte to the Baby is he?
Speaker 1: And I knew? I know high school. He went to
Speaker 1: Advanced high school and all that right, a couple of
Speaker 1: miles from where I grew up. I ain't ever met
Speaker 1: him wherever he's at, I ain't never met you. Moment,
Speaker 1: gotta go do something, man, seven o four is we
Speaker 1: were like doing things right. I can't believe you have
Speaker 1: the man. I know, it's crazy. That's on both of us.
Speaker 1: I mean from here now. Once you meet Steph, just
Speaker 1: come fun with our podcast The Baby all the Year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but uh, and then I got I got Christian artists
Speaker 1: and do listen, I would see the Baby and all that.
Speaker 1: Let's just do a name tarn Wells, Christian artists, Christian artists,
Speaker 1: tarn Wills. You might not. You gotta take a chance.
Speaker 1: It's just a different, different, different. I listened to a
Speaker 1: lot of the Gospels, so I would I'll check it out.
Speaker 1: It's a little, a little in the New Age. He
Speaker 1: got some flavor. And then you got a friendship with Drake.
Speaker 1: What's that like? It's it's all over the place because
Speaker 1: we was like because brother, honestly Uh, it's crazy because
Speaker 1: obviously it started from the first name dropping hit with
Speaker 1: the chef Curry with the pot right, and uh, I
Speaker 1: think I think was like but from there we have
Speaker 1: some connections on and both of our families. Asha his
Speaker 1: cousin as part of O your crew and and uh
Speaker 1: and so we spent a lot of time together. And
Speaker 1: does he has your number tattoo on it? Yeah? Yeah
Speaker 1: with the halo. I think, yeah, that's like the one
Speaker 1: are you talk to him about? That is like him
Speaker 1: respecting greatness all across the board, whether it's some people
Speaker 1: that he just he always tattoos me, it's me and
Speaker 1: something so like it's nothing corny about it's literally like
Speaker 1: when you appreciate some Um, that's that's that's that's love.
Speaker 1: So last year was fun because the whole Toronto connection
Speaker 1: and all of him talking trash from the court. Um,
Speaker 1: he was talking to me, Draymond. Everybody's good for basketball. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't a lot. There's a lot of talk about
Speaker 1: him with his antics and stuff in the side he
Speaker 1: didn't do the owner of the team, and he was
Speaker 1: passionate about what's going on here and like that's getting
Speaker 1: everybody going and it's raising the popularity game as long
Speaker 1: as he ain't interfering with the actual game, right what
Speaker 1: you want? Yeah, he ain't gonna do that, so uh
Speaker 1: I called him after the finals. I was hot, I
Speaker 1: was reason old all or no. I was just mad
Speaker 1: because we lost. But I was trying to like congratulate
Speaker 1: because I'm not hurt. Hurt, goddamn it, congratulates. I'm over
Speaker 1: laugh crying. Like it was fun. It was fun. He
Speaker 1: shows love all the time, So tell me what it's
Speaker 1: like when he started hearing like being dropped in songs,
Speaker 1: like with different artists dropping your name the song. What
Speaker 1: was that like? It was fun, man, because anywhere you go,
Speaker 1: like the people you hear that, they wouldn't call your
Speaker 1: name no more. But um so, I can't keep a
Speaker 1: tab on how many times has happened since then. But
Speaker 1: that was like the first one that actually you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, change the change, change that. That's a little bit.
Speaker 1: Uh my favorite one that was hilarious. Cardi b got
Speaker 1: the one with me and she's like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to get married, like the Curry Stephanisha barely Tommy Keh Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's my favorite joint. That's one of my biggest
Speaker 1: songs to ye before we get out of here. We
Speaker 1: got a couple of quick hitters. Um all time, you're
Speaker 1: starting five all time. Clude yourself if you want. Oh,
Speaker 1: you asked me right now, that asked me what I'm
Speaker 1: done playing? But right now, Oh, that's crazy. I think
Speaker 1: I've answers before. I'm probably gonna have a different, different
Speaker 1: start in life. So we go, Magic Michael Larry uh
Speaker 1: wait shock, let me make sure I got my positions,
Speaker 1: Magic PG Michael shooting guard Larry small forward ain't powerful?
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan, of course, how can you not? Yeah the name?
Speaker 1: Give me three of the most underrated players you played against? Oh,
Speaker 1: I like that question? Most underrated question Mike Conley, Drew Holiday,
Speaker 1: jew Holiday, Seth Curry, Seth Curry, I like that? Like
Speaker 1: what's that like? You know? I mean because you you know,
Speaker 1: I mean you took the small road school road and
Speaker 1: became a superstar. He took the you know, major school
Speaker 1: and then it's taking him a while, but he started
Speaker 1: to find his footing. But what's crazy about Seth is
Speaker 1: like a step before. Dude, he was at Liberty University.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that most Bury Virginia and he played
Speaker 1: his freshman year there. I think they're like the Big
Speaker 1: South Conference. He was leading the hes A nation as
Speaker 1: a freshman scoring and the team started playing like crazy
Speaker 1: Jankee defense againting against him because it's his teammate. The
Speaker 1: town on the on the squad was was okay, but
Speaker 1: everybody was just trying to take him out of it.
Speaker 1: And it's like, I can't get better here if they're
Speaker 1: gonna play box and one or triangling to on me
Speaker 1: in the old games. So he proved himself at Liberty.
Speaker 1: Coach k came calling, so he transferred. The Duke played
Speaker 1: there for the three years um and he had an
Speaker 1: injury a senior year, he had some uh shin fractures,
Speaker 1: so he missed the whole draft process pre draft process.
Speaker 1: He didn't get drafted and had to go to the
Speaker 1: D League at the time of the G League route
Speaker 1: and for him like to have like the crazy ups
Speaker 1: and downs like small D one school duke G League
Speaker 1: back to getting some ten day contracts and then finally
Speaker 1: established himself as an NBA player now unfast four or
Speaker 1: five years and man just gotta get some bread. So
Speaker 1: and he earned every bit of it. So Um, that
Speaker 1: part of it is so much fun to watch because
Speaker 1: he's my guy and I'm as big as fan and
Speaker 1: everything that he does, and you know, you always you
Speaker 1: want him just get an opportunity because I know what
Speaker 1: type of player he is and he's supposed to be
Speaker 1: an NBA. And and to think last year and Commons
Speaker 1: finals were playing against each other and my parents up
Speaker 1: there and just nervous and crying and emotional and all
Speaker 1: that it was. It was unbelievable. Yeah. No, I saw
Speaker 1: him laugh when he plucked you that time. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I had like talk about turnovers and my mom getting handbags.
Speaker 1: He was he was responsible about five don't know my
Speaker 1: brother never to this day, he one person I cannot
Speaker 1: beat the one on one for some reason, current player,
Speaker 1: the reminds you of yourself, anybody, I mean a little
Speaker 1: bit of Trey. He's he's more baby still. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got he's got he's got that element. Uh that's about it.
Speaker 1: I think that's all I can think that I could think.
Speaker 1: Last question taking you and your team out of the picture.
Speaker 1: Who who who do you think? Who do you think
Speaker 1: will be in the finals this year? No? No, leave
Speaker 1: your team, keep it real. Leave your team in the picture.
Speaker 1: Ain't winning, ship, Really, I ain't winning this year. Ain't
Speaker 1: got the super coaches ship. Man, that's our little brother.
Speaker 1: You know what time it is. Leave y'all team in there.
Speaker 1: Take his team out of you know what time it is.
Speaker 1: It's just what it is. Man. You'll need a break. Man,
Speaker 1: you've been playing basketball for the last fifty years, all
Speaker 1: went to the finals. You'll need a break. But really realistic,
Speaker 1: leave your team in there. Yeah, can you rephrase this question? Please?
Speaker 1: Who's winning it this year? With his team in there?
Speaker 1: Don't take him out. I'm gonna say, if I was
Speaker 1: betting right now, I bet you don't come get me
Speaker 1: right right, But if I if I had had a
Speaker 1: pick right now, maybe the Lakers in Milwaukee just because
Speaker 1: they play and I was watching every game of that
Speaker 1: right right, Yeah they are they got it right now.
Speaker 1: I'm knocking on stocks. We appreciate it, man, Thank you.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get that headline Steph Curry. Thanks
Speaker 1: the Lakers and the Milwaukee Bucks gonna be that's a wrap. Man.
Speaker 1: Episode thirteen with my brother, Yes, sir, we did it again.
Speaker 1: Said you were funny this episode. Man, he was on
Speaker 1: your ship I appreciate it. I want to thank Matt
Speaker 1: Barnes for the two seventeen NBA championship. Yeah. Man, they
Speaker 1: weren't want to without Matt. One though. I was up
Speaker 1: there cheering my Assholly, my asshole. Yeah. I even killing
Speaker 1: me all year, even killing you was on your ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he got me back. It's the first Nime comebacks
Speaker 1: and the parts I said you'd be saying, you said,
Speaker 1: I said myself thirteen episode and finally got a funny
Speaker 1: joking ship. He got me. Anyways, that's a wrap episode thirteen.
Speaker 1: All the smoke, Steph Curry. We appreciate you, man, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Bro. You can find a Showtime Basketball YouTube
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