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Speaker 1: back to purge the welterweight division, plus Jared Heard returns

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Speaker 1: to strike fear inside the ring on Showtime Welcome Back,

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Speaker 1: Episode thirteen. All the smoke, my brethren, is it? That

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Speaker 1: thank you for your time. I haven't seen you walk

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Speaker 1: the little touch, you know, points that you you to have, Um,

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00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: haven't been in our shoes on player. So the biggest

429
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 1: differences for Mark, we were young and we were unproven,

430
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 1: and he had to create an identity and create an

431
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 1: edge for us that you know, gave us the comments

432
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 1: to walk on the floor so that we can be

433
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: in any team any given night. And he's an unbelievable

434
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 1: motivator in terms of just the way that he can,

435
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, articulate himself and give you some some type

436
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: of fuel on a nightly basis. Like he would come

437
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: in in the locker room, Uh, and he wouldn't We

438
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: talked about extra game plans, but then he's spent like

439
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: five minutes just talking about life and like the perspective

440
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 1: of you know, how much you know what makes us

441
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: all different while we're on the locker room together when

442
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: we're about to go down here, and and he bring

443
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: it around something like you know, pretty funny, serious sometimes

444
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 1: story that just made you like your blood star bulling,

445
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 1: like all right, oh, we we got a game right too.

446
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: Let's go like let's go for young guys like like

447
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: like we were at the time, like we needed all

448
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: that edge and that competitiveness and that and I gotta

449
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: would go to war for you in the media and

450
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: the locker room. Sometimes it was to a detriment a

451
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 1: little bit up for upstairs, like we're all just uh,

452
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: we're just grinding trying to get to that next level.

453
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 1: And he helped us. Uh, he helped us get there.

454
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: And there's no secret I didn't want fired when when

455
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 1: when they went down and um, you know with Bob

456
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: Myers and Joe Lake and Peter Goober, they wanted to

457
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: make a decision and they brought in Steve and and

458
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 1: my my whole point was like, if you fired coach Kurve,

459
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean, fired on coach Jackson, you just gotta get

460
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: the next higher, right because we're in a position now

461
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 1: where you can take that next you can't mess it

462
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: up and and obviously they got it right. You know,

463
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: Coach Curve is uh, he's special man like he's he's wise,

464
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, just in terms of you know how to

465
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: how to manage people right, Like that's that's a big

466
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: thing in the league, no matter if it's the first

467
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: guy the fifteen guy. You gotta be able to be honest,

468
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: be able to set the expectations um and figure out

469
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: your ways to get the best out of out of guys.

470
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: And I think anybody that would play for him would

471
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: tell you you always know, like where you're at, Like

472
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: you always know if you if you get a couple

473
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: of d nps, he's gonna tell you why. He's gonna

474
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: keep you engaged. He's not just gonna walk by and

475
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: not say nothing. And we've had experiences like like that

476
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: across the board, and I think that's the biggest thing

477
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: for long term success. Like you know, you who your

478
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: best players are. You know that they're gonna go out

479
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: and do what they need to do every night, but

480
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: you know your role players and the guys that are

481
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: gonna help you do out the regular season and have

482
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 1: those spot moments during the playoffs that's gonna make a difference,

483
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: like they gotta be engaged all year long, and it

484
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: starts in the summertime. The training, camping all the way

485
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: through and coaches is the best that just being able

486
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: to paint a picture of how you're gonna help this

487
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: team and being real, like you feel that care factor

488
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: that he that he brings, and uh, it's been an

489
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: amazing journey. He's obviously had the best five year run

490
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: of coaching. He's a great motivated to I want a

491
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: championship with him. When when I was with the Spurs

492
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: and I remember used to come out the game a lot,

493
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, when Pop used to pull me from making

494
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: the mistakes. And I remember in the finals, you know,

495
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: I just start I didn't start game six off or

496
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: well at all, and Pop kept pulling me. But he

497
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: kept coming to me like you're gonna make some big shots,

498
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: I guarantee you, And he kept telling me that you know,

499
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: I guess KO and I wasn't, you know, I was

500
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: in the funk, so I really wasn't hearing them and

501
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: up making three big threes again in the championship game

502
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: to win the championships. So he's one of them guys

503
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: that he's so educated so smart about the game that

504
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: he can see that you don't even And the cool

505
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: thing about it too is he's had every seat and

506
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: almost and and wanted every seat right. So you're talking

507
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: about like Chicago to San Antonio winning championships, to be

508
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: in the gym with his Phoenix suns and seeing what

509
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: it's like to really manage a roster, and then you

510
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: go he's an analyst where he gets to just see

511
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: the game and talk to people and just be connected

512
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: and and then he's a head coach and it's like

513
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: he's got it. So this year is actually interesting because

514
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: we obviously have a you know, young team and trying

515
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: to figure it out and and it's testing him in

516
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: different ways. Over the last five years, he hasn't been

517
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: testing and tested and uh, I mean he's hand on man.

518
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: It's it's obviously our record is not great, but um,

519
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: all the young guys, when you asked him like how

520
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: like you hear what they have to say about him

521
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: and how they make him feel like amiss, the struggles

522
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: that they're going through. It's, uh, that's says that says

523
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: a lot. You don't have a problem with the flyweed.

524
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: I don't think no he's someone that I think, I

525
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: think joys the well. I remember when I was playing,

526
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: he had the spine stuff, right, So I remember that's

527
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: when he was kind of dabbling in the CBD space

528
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: because it was sad. I remember because I was hurting

529
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs too. He couldn't sit, Like if he could

530
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: sit for two minutes, they didn't have to lay, they

531
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: need to have to walk around. Then he would try

532
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: to sit like his pain was enormously through the roof.

533
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: So it was one time. It's kind of awkward though,

534
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: because head coaching player current is my last season, you know,

535
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: not knowing, but it was my last season. I was

536
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: just like, you know, do you do you smoke? Do

537
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: you take CBD? I mean, I'm asking my coach that

538
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: just because I'm seeing like the how uncomfortable and how

539
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: how how in pain he is, and you know, I

540
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: tried this and I tried that, and it was it

541
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: was just hard because he's such a good guy, but

542
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: he was really going through some ship with that spinal stuff.

543
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: He was going through crazy. How long did it take

544
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: for you guys to bond? You know what I mean?

545
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: Like I said, you were a big advocate from Mark

546
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: Jackson you didn't want to fire, but you were persistent

547
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: on making sure it's the right higher. Once you kind

548
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 1: of realized that he was the right higher, how long

549
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: to take you guys to bond? I said that first

550
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: that first year, like leading up to the Christmas game. Um,

551
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: that's probably the point where I got comfortable understanding, you know,

552
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: how I was gonna help or how I was gonna

553
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: take advantage of assistant that he put in place, because

554
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: it was drastically different than than than coach Jackson. So, um,

555
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: we always laughed. He you know, talking about ball movement. Um,

556
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: you know player movement, you know, just making the right

557
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: open pass, keep keep the ball moving, and something's gonna

558
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: something that's gonna lead to a good shot at some point. Um,

559
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: we had certain like reads and calls left very some

560
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: of the spurs uh systems, And he always say, like,

561
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: you know, this is it's pretty intuitive what we're trying

562
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: to do. But you know, we just got to get

563
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: the fundamentals and the foundations of it for this year

564
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: and then next year, you know, when we really got

565
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: it and everybody understands where to be and when you

566
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: know in the timing of everything, like we're really gonna

567
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 1: take off. But it's like funny because that first year

568
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: we wanted we won the championship, and every day it

569
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: was about just keeping things simple, right And as a

570
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: point guard, that's that's I loved it because my game,

571
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: I try to keep things simple, like take the first

572
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: open shot. Your handles ain't simple, far from it. Your

573
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: handles are not simple. Beyond that, if it's if you

574
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: open from thirty shooting. If not, move it, get off

575
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: and get off the ball, get out the way somebody

576
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: else make a play. We obviously we're blessed with a

577
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: lot of different playmakers. You know, you've got myself, Sean

578
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: Andre Draymond from the top, we keep playing. We have

579
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: bigs that could pass with bogan um and all that.

580
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: So like it worked because of our personnel. But that's

581
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: just a fun way to play basketball. Um and it's

582
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: obviously proved success. But when you know, like everybody feels

583
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: involved and like they know to get but they all

584
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: to be a threat. I do. Nobody knows who liked

585
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: to shoot, and that's what makes you so dangerous because

586
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: everyone is. Because I caught both ends of you guys

587
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: obviously kind of we were I wouldn't even say, big brother,

588
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: but what kind of you are? The Lob City team

589
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: was kind of your battle and your barometer from the

590
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: time we beat you guys until you guys win in

591
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: the championship next year. So we saw the Mark Jackson

592
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: building that foundation. And I'll be like, oh, these young

593
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: motherfucker's about the guys and Draymond because I remember we

594
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: had CCP and he was the guy, and Draymond was

595
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: like fun that I'm taking Steph Curry every single night,

596
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: and he was doing some fun up ship to our team,

597
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: like stepping on chris Is shoe making a fall getting jump.

598
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: He stepped on the shoe. And then the one time

599
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: in Golden State where you went in between our the

600
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: whole team at the free through came out and turn

601
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: around shot. And then when Kurt was like and he

602
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: made it. It was probably one of the most unbelievable shots.

603
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: He don't even you're dribbling around down, free throw, line back,

604
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: turned around, fade, three points, like all kinds of crazy

605
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: dribbling in between. Now just like this dude, and men

606
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: like you can't do nothing, dope. Serious, serious was so

607
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: much in it. But that's when we knew, like I

608
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: knew being a bathroom mind was like these motherfucker's got

609
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: next in it. Scood be next for a minute, and

610
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 1: it was. It was amazing. Like I said, we were

611
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: still competitive and wanted to kick your guys asses, but

612
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: we can see what you guys are building and how

613
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: special you guys were that last year. I mean that

614
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: that's serious. I think was when the all the sterling

615
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: ship Sterling ship that happened. It's kind of crazy, Like

616
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: you talked about two teams that this is, to be honest,

617
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: they hated each other. There's a lot of animosity and

618
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: history and all that get into a seven game series.

619
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: Then you got all the other in thea drama going

620
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: on and we're like having conversations and if they don't

621
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: make the ready like what we're gonna do. We're gonna protest,

622
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna you know, walk off the court, like what

623
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: what what? What would have done? They would have decided

624
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: not to play? We had a we had conversations like

625
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: if they would have done the wrong thing in terms

626
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: of not kicking them out the league and having you know,

627
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: lifetime band or whatever. There's talks about us going to

628
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: jump ball. The jump ball we all shake hands and

629
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: just walk off the floor. That would have been so hard.

630
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: Part of me, that would have been crazy. We should

631
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: have did it anyway, when you think about his place

632
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: in history and what it would have been right that

633
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: it would have been up as hell. Yeah, that was

634
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: a crazy thing that definitely likes. We lost and we

635
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: sit there watching it in the next round, but it

636
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: definitely helped us. But I think too, and I can

637
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: say this because I think people not like it was

638
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: a perfect sign of we had the most talent in

639
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: the NBA. They were a young team that had a

640
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: ton of talent too, But what set them aside is

641
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: they really fucked with each other and their chemistry made

642
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: them better than us. You know, even though at the

643
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: time we were older, bigger, stronger, we had more talent.

644
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: We should have probably won the finals. Like you could

645
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: tell this team was up and coming, but they really

646
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: they put from the outside looking in. Once I got

647
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: there and I saw the whole situation from Katie and

648
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: how you guys really put your game, your egos, everything

649
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: to the side. But from the outside looking in early on,

650
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, these guys just want to win. They don't

651
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: care who scores, what's going on like they're just out

652
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: here playing basketball, laugh been jumping and having a good time,

653
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: and those are scary teams. That's part of our DNA, man,

654
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: and I think that's why it worked, because if you

655
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: have that much talent and you stress out about whatever,

656
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: like somebody else's success or if you're getting yours and

657
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: all that, like, you gotta set that foundation earlier before

658
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: I guess that gets out of hand. And that's that's

659
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: why we accomplished what we did. Man. Winning the championship

660
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: is always good. You got a couple of them, motherfucker's three?

661
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: Which is it a favorite one? The first one? For sure?

662
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: The first one is the favorite. Just why because you

663
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: don't know what, like what it takes to get there

664
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: until you actually accomplish it. And it's just a whole

665
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: another level level of freedom after that. And you got one,

666
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: like we can get greedy now. The stress of trying

667
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: to get that one first, even that's that's a stressful time,

668
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: like even I mean, and you're playing Braun and obviously

669
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: they had injuries and whatnot, but just like the just

670
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: the ground eighty two games, you gotta be locked in

671
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,959
Speaker 1: everything plus six team win when we took us twenty

672
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: one or twenty two, whatever it was to get there.

673
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: And you know how intention playoff games are. Man, it's

674
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: like it's so hard to put in the words. But

675
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: when you finally hit the horn, sound were in Cleveland

676
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: like celebrating changes off, like all right, this who knows

677
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: what's about to happen from you know, it's dope. When

678
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: they went back and playing next year, he said it,

679
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: he said, that's got a little bit of asshole ship

680
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: talking to him, but he just covers it up with

681
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: a good image. That ship was slick as I was like, oh,

682
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: he's an a boy. You had you have three championships,

683
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: uh you know the two losses, yeah, one of the

684
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: Like you know how close you were there possibly winning

685
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: four or five without injury last season, Like, tell me

686
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 1: what that's like. I just love being in the conversation. Man,

687
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: every year if you get in the finals, like it's crazy,

688
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: it sounds not many people get that experience. You know,

689
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: some some time greats never played in the finals or

690
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: never one, so like I it just has a gratitude

691
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: for that. Obviously, as a competitor, it sucks when you lose,

692
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: Like everybody, the sixth team was hard sixth team was

693
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, just up and down crazy, you know, playoff

694
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: run obviously sevent three and nine. Damn getting to the playoffs.

695
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: I get hurt miss like three weeks of the playoffs,

696
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: come back. We we get to Western Commons finals, were

697
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: down three one, like people think our seasons over with

698
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: come back, so we were on both sides of the

699
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: three one situation. And then the finals obviously, you know,

700
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: I think the wheels just fell off and Kyrie and

701
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: Lebron played unbelievable three straight games. Like I don't think

702
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: people talk about that part of it as much as

703
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: always like, well, like we got but we didn't lose,

704
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: we got beat. So part of it is is just

705
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: like each story is each year as a different like

706
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: narrative and an experience. And I look back like I

707
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate each and every one of them because I

708
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: won't remember who you went to war with. And you know,

709
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: those wins were special, but even the losses, like you

710
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: gotta put into perspective. Man, we're in the finals, like

711
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: great players. It was a fight, Like I think at

712
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: the end of the day when we all you know,

713
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: hosting our own podcast, like and I look across the room,

714
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: and I see Brian and Kyrie and Kauai and Kyle

715
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: Lowry like and like, yo, that was fun, right, Let

716
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: that stay away as long as I like this. You

717
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: touched on the real quick. And I think what gets

718
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: lost in the shuffle is that seventy three and nine season,

719
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: Like what was that like? Knowing that you guys were

720
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: eggbox shit crazy? Every seemed like the season around you

721
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: here Pip talking a little bit and Horma bulls talking

722
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: and they're not going to be able to do it,

723
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: and you guys went seventy three and nine and but

724
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: then you hear about what they didn't want the chance,

725
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: like you know, I think what gets lost is you

726
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: guys lost nine games and once that's incredible'eable? What was that? What?

727
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: What was the regular season? And that dreamed you guys,

728
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: people understand that's a mental dream to the physical dream.

729
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: What's that mental dream? So I think it started in

730
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: the summer between so we want the championship in fifteen,

731
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: All season happens, and all we hear all the years

732
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: we got lucky, right, That's all they're all we hear

733
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: is Cleveland was heard. Mike Conley was hurt, like whatever

734
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 1: the narrative was and we don't care, we want a championship.

735
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: All we want to do coming in next year is

736
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: like the validate, right we start off twenty four and all.

737
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: So like that part of it alone was like that

738
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: was about that. That part was the craziest thing in

739
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: the world, just because we had O D confidence, we

740
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: had chemistry like you said, um and like the change

741
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: was off. We were just like, let's just go, let's

742
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: just go win every single game and you know, to

743
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: go twenty four and oh, like the intensity of that

744
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: to start the season is it was worth it. But

745
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: it was a lot and you know, the the just

746
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: the chase down the stretch. Every game was like the

747
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: finals and we have been celebrating right there us champagne,

748
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: let's go bab Everybody's like, do we regret going after

749
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: sevent three wins because we may have flamed out in

750
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: the last in the finals. No, like that was an

751
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: amazing accomplishment. We knew we could do that and go,

752
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, win another ring and we were right there obviously.

753
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: So uh it is bitter sweet. You look at the

754
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: banner and says seventy three and nine most wins in

755
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: league and it doesn't mind you right for the finals,

756
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: but everybody thought seven two nur was untouchable, and we

757
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: got it. So that's the beaut of the league. Like

758
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 1: it just keeps getting better and better. So we'll see.

759
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: Tell me your thoughts on because today you're such a

760
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, join another team or big trade, but the

761
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: root of your team was through the draft and then

762
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: that positioned you to be able to pick up KD

763
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: and free agent. Tell me about that whole process. I mean,

764
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm not the best one to ask. I've been with

765
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: the same team for eleven years, but it's like the

766
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: landscape is different, right, There's a lot more player movement,

767
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: player freedom, and and that's a great thing to have

768
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: where you know you can control your own destiny in

769
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: a sense like um, there's been plenty of teams that

770
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: have thought that you know, they're big two, big three,

771
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: was gonna get it done, but it didn't happen, and

772
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: you gotta take a shot at it. You gotta go after.

773
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: Every year is precious. We all know that, and so

774
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: I love the the I guess you caught the suspense

775
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: of it like every summer, Like all right, how drastic

776
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: is the league? Differently is the league gonna look next

777
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: year and the summer was crazy. Um it's going to

778
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: get even crazy as we go through. So there is

779
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: something pure about like you said me, Clay Draymond setting

780
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: the tone of building an identity for a team that

781
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: then made it make sense for Katie to be you know,

782
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: he wants to join it. Like it's like he knows

783
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: what we're about and he could take at another level.

784
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: And so to be able to build that the way

785
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: we did and and have the memories that we do

786
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: and then now be on the other side of and say, okay,

787
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: keep that same identity, that same you know, championship mentality.

788
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: Let's go for another window playing against teams that's gonna

789
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: be shuffling and doing a lot of you know, changing

790
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: throughout this throughout the summer. So it's it's fun to watch,

791
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: I know for NBA fans, it's gonna be amazing year around.

792
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: That's what continues to make the thing that business grow.

793
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: Hopefully I can, I don't. I don't want me nowhere,

794
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: so for you don't have to worry about that. It's

795
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: good Man good beaches down here, and it's nice, but

796
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: the bay is good. It's different. Tell me what it

797
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: was like when when when it finally happens, when when

798
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: you guys signed k D. Was there back and forth

799
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: talk did you know where you're part of it? Like,

800
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: tell me what it was like when you landed them. Yeah,

801
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: we went out. We went out there to the Hamptons

802
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: and we met with him, and part of it was

803
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: again kind of just said like we knew who we

804
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: were as a unit and knew it what kind of

805
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: us and he was and obviously his skill set and

806
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm matching, so it makes sense. Let's go, let's go

807
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,959
Speaker 1: get this dude. A lot of people are talking about

808
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: me comeing out of the m VP year and the

809
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: sacrifice and all that type of stuff, like it's about winning.

810
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: Like obviously that does go through your mind, like, oh,

811
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: I might not have twenty two shots this year, it

812
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: might be like nineteen and some change and play a

813
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: different style. But for the most part, it wasn't really

814
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: that drastic of a change. You know, we know how

815
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,959
Speaker 1: we're gonna get our shots, and everybody has a different style.

816
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: Nobody really stepped on each other's toes, and so it

817
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: made sense. Um, I didn't know until he called me

818
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: the morning of his decision. I was in Hawaii actually,

819
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: so the time differences. I was asleep and I woke

820
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: up to seventy eight text measures and calls like like

821
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: he was you know, I hit him back, and just

822
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: that's that was the start of of three great years,

823
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: um that we'll remember for a very long time. And

824
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: all the all the stuff that uh that's happened, that

825
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: happened last year, and and uh and obviously the unfortunate

826
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: injury and all that type of stuff is a tough

827
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: ending to an amazing, you know, time period, you know,

828
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: being for the Warriors. But man, we've got two ships,

829
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: almost got three, like the hell of a run. Tell

830
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: me what it was like, because, like I said, you

831
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: guys had your identity and knew who you were as

832
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: a ball club and knew each other like the back

833
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: of your hand. Tell me what kind of sacrifice it

834
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: took from you know, he said, you're coming off as

835
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: you have the unanimous MVP previous year, right, first time

836
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: in history, Clay is being Clay Draymond a fucking dog.

837
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: So tell me what it was like when you get

838
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: some of his caliber and then how everyone it seemed

839
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't there at the beginning. I got a taste

840
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: of it. But it's seamless from the beginning, like everyone

841
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: checked their egos and checked you know, the most important

842
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: thing was winning. Yeah, the egos are checked for sure,

843
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: I say that. But at the end of the day,

844
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: we all gotta keep by you, right if we all

845
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: have our best version of ourselves, like selfless the better word. Yeah,

846
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: I like that. So that was that was that was

847
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: known from the jump um on the court like excess

848
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: and those and just stout. I said, it wasn't a

849
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: big adjustment for me, but I had to make the

850
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: biggest adjustment in terms of you know, Draymond such an

851
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: amazing playmaker, and we had an offense where we could

852
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: get him the ball and uh, guys are just moving

853
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: around setting screens for each other. Somebody's can get open

854
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: and he was gonna make the past. Kay can play

855
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: in that style. He can also just get the ball

856
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: anywhere he wants to and one on one and let

857
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: stopping and clay. Same thing. All he needs is this

858
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: much daylight and he's yes, true, he's so good moving

859
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: out the ball um. All he needs is a touch

860
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: and is going up my pick and roll stuff, which

861
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: I was kind of the bread and butter of you know,

862
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: the two years prior to the m VP years and all,

863
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: that wasn't that many opportunities because that was like the

864
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: fourth option in terms of, you know, I was getting

865
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: a good shot because we're all threats on the floor.

866
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: So that first like two or three months, it was

867
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 1: just a subtle adjustment in terms of for me just knowing,

868
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, when I was gonna be able to dominate

869
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: in certain stretches of the game, and like how we

870
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: could balance all of that. And once we figure that out, Uh,

871
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: we had a good run. K got hurt. Actually, Uh,

872
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: I think like February, Yeah, yeah, which is a crazy

873
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: story because two guys got jerseys for like a half

874
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: crazy right here. That Yeah, it was crazy. Thankfully we

875
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: got the right guy, and uh we went on a

876
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: little run when you came. Ka was out, and that

877
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: helped everybody understand like this, this this system is gonna work.

878
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: K is gonna come back healthy. We're gonna hit the

879
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: ground running for the playoffs. And we went in sixteen

880
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: and one in the in the in the in the

881
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: playoffs and one. So uh, just the a collection of

882
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: guys that just wanted to hoop and play basketball at

883
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: the highest level and didn't care how it's gonna get done.

884
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: We're just gonna we're gonna make it happen. And uh

885
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: we did all right. Like I said, I was blessed

886
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: to be able to come in and watch you guys

887
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: and be a part of that. But what I saw

888
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: from the outside looking at is when I got a

889
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: chance to be on the inside, and then after I

890
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: was on the outside again, did you guys ever feel

891
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: actually speak for yourself? It always seemed like the media

892
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: tried to make it Katie and the Warriors. Did you

893
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: guys feel that? I definitely felt that, And that was

894
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: I mean, anytime you have greatness, they're gonna try to

895
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: break one way, to find some way to to just

896
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: get their foot in the door. So yeah, it was

897
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: always like the draft, the drafted guys, plus you know

898
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: the higher distassin Katie unfair with It was never this.

899
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: There was always like the Warriors and Katie. I mean,

900
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: as a fortunate as that narrative is, it couldn't have

901
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 1: been further from the guy. So like, that's the hard

902
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: part when you when you at the top, like it's

903
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: a daily reminded you have to come in with the

904
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: right perspective, because after one one person slips or one rumor,

905
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: narrative submense itself in your head, like we were on

906
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: spot like all the time, man, Like, don't think people

907
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: appreciate that part of every single day. It was crazy too,

908
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: because when I came in, like you said, we went

909
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: on a cooler to run, and like, not because of me,

910
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: it was just because of what that we know that

911
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: obvious is what I was trying to port. That came

912
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: out wrong, right, It was. The record was good, though

913
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: what I meant to say was way to not contribute

914
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, so I don't even count that championship.

915
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: We'll get into that later. But I appreciate I appreciate

916
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: the free ride. What I meant to say was we

917
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: went on a hell of a run when Katie was out.

918
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: But you would hear those rumors like look how good

919
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: they're doing without him, and I'm just like, damn, people

920
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: really talk like this not knowing. I appreciate people not

921
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: knowing like how good he is. But like they say,

922
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: they'll see the team doing what they're doing and you know,

923
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: staying on that consistent pace, and you start hearing like,

924
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: oh well, they don't even need, and I'm just like,

925
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: that's insane, like you know, but realized, how motherfucker did

926
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: this guy is I'm good that you're sick. You finally

927
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: had a moment. I'm just saying, came out wrong. You

928
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: say at the pig pussy fort, that's how that's how

929
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: blatantly obviously it was one thing before we transition, man,

930
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to touch on, is it explain explain Draymond

931
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: to people who don't know Draymond, because I think he's

932
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 1: one of the most misunderstood people. Got a good heart,

933
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: but sometimes it comes off the wrong way, and it's

934
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: sometimes it's problem ful. Sometimes that's what's needed. Explain who

935
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: he is in your first The first way I explained

936
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: him is that Draymond and basketball player is not Draymond

937
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,479
Speaker 1: the person, right, So like we all know Draymond the person.

938
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: Nicest dude, Karen, do you always checking in on you? Yeah,

939
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: He's loyal, like everything about him, like off the court

940
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: is somebody you want like around, you want somebody in

941
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: your camp, like like dreaming on the court, the same

942
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: way he comes with that passion comes you know a

943
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: lot of volatility in terms of you know, it could

944
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: it galvanized us as a team. Make sure you know,

945
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: we got a lot of nice guys finess games and

946
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: myself included, like you need that fire like somebody that's

947
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: that bulldog. And sometimes he'll admit the same thing, like sometimes, um,

948
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 1: it does get in his way because it might distract

949
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: from just playing basketball. But over the course of whatever,

950
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: the nine seasons we've been playing together, I'm taking that

951
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: every single day of the week, and so and the

952
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: and the bad is that's an opportunity to learn, right,

953
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: Like that's that's that's that narrative is kind of tough

954
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: because his transgressions were just exposed on the court, Like

955
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: and the guy that he was what you know, first

956
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: championship run whatever, is not the same dude, and he's

957
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: evolved and learned and like we all have. It's just

958
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: you know, he wears everything on the sleeve and so

959
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: everybody gets to have that journey with him almost he's

960
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: like the dad out there now, like he's you know,

961
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: having rested that great minds out there playing like you know,

962
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: twenty something. It is the game. I talked to him

963
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: here and here and there, and it's just he's just

964
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: a good dude. Man. He takes everything in stride and

965
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: has peop don't understand how intelligent he is and and

966
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: his basketball mind is is second to none. It is.

967
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: I think Andre said it like he's his i Q

968
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: is is the best he's ever seen. And and either

969
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 1: it comes out with him trying to make an adjustment

970
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: or it comes out and what he says to a

971
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: certain person at a certain time to get them to

972
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: do what he wants him to do to help the

973
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: team win. Um, him understanding his own game and how

974
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the most effective out there every single night.

975
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: Him knowing every single player in this league and on

976
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: every tendency you have, every pet movie, he would understand. Man,

977
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: his mind is sick. Mind is sick. So yeah, that's

978
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: my that's my guy. So what do you like to

979
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: do now that you know you're down for a while?

980
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: You you haven't had this as a professional, like when

981
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: you know extended amount of time down, Like what are you?

982
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: What are you doing right now? The crazy part is

983
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: like I have three kids, seven, four and one, and

984
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: the first like three weeks, I was hurt and I

985
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: was just quitter, like to stay at home there like

986
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: doing all the stuff that I've always wanted to do,

987
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: like take him to school, you know, pick them up.

988
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: That all the extracurricular activities, my daughters and horseback riding,

989
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, playing soccer, like just being at every event

990
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: without an excuse that I gotta go somewhere, I gotta

991
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: be on the road trip and stuff. It was uncomfortable

992
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: because I was instill in that competitive mindset and I

993
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 1: didn't really know how to you know, use my free

994
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: time because everything was centered around you know practice or

995
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: pre practice routines, practice post practice recovery and get ready

996
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: for game days and traveling all that type of stuff.

997
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: So when all that's taken away, it's kind of an

998
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: uncomfortable like you know reality for a little bit. But now,

999
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: um knowing I still got you know, months to to

1000
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: get back and get healthy, um trying to lean into stuff.

1001
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: I got all off the court a little bit obviously

1002
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: as a as a teammate, I haven't been at the

1003
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: games because I've been down here, you know with surgery

1004
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: and rehab. But you still gotta be you know, president

1005
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: leader and help these guys you know, developed, because this

1006
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: is gonna help set us up for for years to come.

1007
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: But um, in terms of balance, and the stuff that

1008
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: I have on and off the course another opportunity just

1009
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: kind of get your mind right and personally just get

1010
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: a perspective on you know, what's important. And for me, like,

1011
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: I got a lot of cool opportunities off the court man,

1012
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: like doing some stuff in production uh side down here

1013
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: with my company Unanimous, who's doing stuff with Sony. Y'all know,

1014
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: I love to play golf and there's a lot of

1015
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: opportunities in the golf business that hopefully I can influence

1016
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: and inspire. H Can you talk I don't want to

1017
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: talk about some of the stuff you're doing because you're

1018
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: doing some amazing stuff that I think you got highlighted,

1019
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: but people don't understand what you're doing. Can you explain

1020
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: to what you're doing at the colleges and stuff. Yeah,

1021
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: So like in the golf space, UM, I've been playing

1022
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: since I was ten, and you know, it's a predominantly male, white,

1023
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: male dominant sport and it's expensive to play and it's

1024
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 1: really hard to get in and so trying to grow

1025
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: the game, UM, to underrepresent the communities. There's a lot

1026
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: of talent. They just needed the opportunity to be able

1027
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: to get out there and understand what you know, you

1028
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: know how to play and and gets that support so

1029
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: that they can compete. And so because that provides so

1030
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: many opportunities and in this day and age, and so

1031
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: part of that was, like, um, Howard University had a

1032
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: Division one golf team like way way back and they

1033
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: lost funding. Um there's a lot of HBCUs that have

1034
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: a golf program, but Howard didn't. And so part of uh,

1035
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, my aim to grow the game and get

1036
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: some exposure around it was to try to bring the

1037
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: Division one golf program back. And so I sponsored the

1038
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: team that's gonna start next year. It's gonna be Division

1039
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: one golf program. Um, we're gonna have three or two

1040
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: scholarship UM golfers, both two men to women to start

1041
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: the first team and uh and hopefully be able to

1042
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: set up an endowment over the next six years where

1043
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: that's gonna be something that's gonna be around forever. So UM,

1044
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: it's exciting, man, because you know, I think not many

1045
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: people know how how great of a game it is one,

1046
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: but but to just how many opportunities you have you

1047
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: can go to school and play golf and get an education,

1048
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: especially like the place like Howard like that says the

1049
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: rest of your life. And you can use golf just

1050
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: like we use basketball as it was a vehicle to

1051
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: do it. So it's pretty cool. Your dad said once

1052
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: that if you didn't play basketball, you probably could have

1053
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: went pro and golf. He said that, I I kind

1054
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: of believe it because how hard, how hard I worked

1055
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: at fact I wasn't playing that same thing, but always

1056
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: like hesitate to say it because I respect respect. It

1057
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: was a profession. I've seen him play and just it's

1058
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: just another level, man, And for me to just go

1059
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: ahead and wild out and say I could be a

1060
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: fresh golfer, Like I wish somebody would say I could

1061
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: be fresh and they playing, you know you couldn't. But

1062
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: I think I said I was playing for a long time.

1063
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: I love the game. I'm I'm I'm a golf junkie,

1064
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: golf nerd. It's kind of I'm kind of obsessed just

1065
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: being on the sideline, you know, watching I know it sucks.

1066
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we've all been hurt, we've all been on

1067
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: side and I've never played. But watching your team go

1068
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: through what they're going through right now and not being

1069
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: not that the league, you know what that's like what

1070
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: is that? Like? Is that frustrating? Come frustrating? Um, Like

1071
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: when you're in the win, in the fighting and that

1072
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: like in the run that we are. It's so it's

1073
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: hard to separate yourself and really like be okay with Okay,

1074
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: this might not be our year. Like that's a really

1075
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: hard thing to to accept. Um. But it's all apart

1076
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: like history and NBA, like nobody's had a run like

1077
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: we've had. And if you look like the Spurs teams

1078
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: in the past, like they never they never went back

1079
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: to back, right, but they had seventeen year run where

1080
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: they were just dominant and uh and they were able

1081
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: to figure it out over time and put different pieces

1082
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: together with their core. And that's kind of like what

1083
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: we have the opportunity to do now going into you know,

1084
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: next year and beyond. So uh yeah, that's that's that's

1085
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: the best way. It's still it's still kind of still new.

1086
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's it's it's comfortable yet, but there

1087
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: is an understanding of just where we are balancing, you know,

1088
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: these last five years and what's what's the you got

1089
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: plus you got pluses on the team. Pascal Ball is

1090
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: good to see he and he he's that dude, like

1091
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: just the confidence because it's just how hard he works.

1092
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: But you can't teach that right, you can't be born

1093
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: with you gotta be born with it. You gotta be

1094
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: able to step on the floor and have that that

1095
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: presence and like the man like I'm here and he's

1096
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: definitely shown that. Kyle Oman, who uh is our two

1097
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: AY player, Damian Lee are two A player. They both

1098
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: have promising futures in the league and hopefully we can

1099
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: keep them around. Um, you know a lot of guys

1100
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: that just like my rookie years stone in the fire,

1101
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: learned on the court like and part of the conversation

1102
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: with those guys, I think that's the we all know.

1103
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: That's a much better way to learn as opposed to

1104
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: most reas just get camped on the bench or in

1105
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: then the G League and have to uh to learn

1106
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: about watching. Um, I'd rather have this experience and it's

1107
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: gonna be It's gonna be huge for them down the road.

1108
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: Tell me what it was like. It's kind of a

1109
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: two part you're on the way uh leaving Oracle went

1110
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: that was like, but then the Jersey run you had

1111
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: kind of representing our old squad man salute. Yeah, that

1112
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: was as the O G of the team and like

1113
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: the only one that uh you know from from the

1114
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: froman and you know, it's my tenth yer in the league.

1115
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: And so it's a cool opportunity. I called it ten

1116
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 1: for ten in the town. So I had my current sixes.

1117
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: I had a whole color way slate that was kind

1118
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: of highlighted stories of um, of my my journey throughout

1119
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: you know, those ten years, and my connection to Oakland

1120
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: and our family base over there. And it was a

1121
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: cool opportunity just honored that the last forty seven years

1122
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: playing in the Oracle because of how much you know

1123
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: history there is, how Oakland's riding down and good bad

1124
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: everything and uh and so like part of that last

1125
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: like five home games, Uh, I picked five people to

1126
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: kind of honor them and their presence with you know,

1127
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: with for dubbed nation with the old school jerseys and

1128
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: all that. So, um, this was it. Uh, Stack was

1129
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: first b D Monte Andrew's bidrons Google wherever you're you're

1130
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: somewhere getting drunk. I know right now everybody black black.

1131
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: But so it was a cool opportunity just to just

1132
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: highlighted man because we were. Everybody knew we were moving

1133
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: to Chase Center, and I mean, whether you whether you

1134
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: liked it or not, it was happening. We appreciated. Man,

1135
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: that was good. I couldn't believe that. On my social media,

1136
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: I've seen Draymond wearing it was crazy because we had

1137
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: to feel more five. That's what we were. We were

1138
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: in the streets of San Francisco doing it. We shouldn't

1139
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: do that. And then you guys are the Hampton five.

1140
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: You guys are a little more studious. It was because

1141
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: I was very smarter than we were. But when I

1142
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: got a chance to play, you know, I said, I

1143
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: briefly got a chance to come back and play with

1144
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 1: you guys. Like the love out there for that team

1145
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: and when we had built was crazy, you know what

1146
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: I mean. And then you were huge and and always

1147
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: honor in our team. And then I remember the year

1148
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: we we I want to champion you guys in seventeen,

1149
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: like you wore the we Believe warm up shirts. So

1150
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: you guys, you guys always showed loving it. It was

1151
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: kind of assembled what Oakland in the Bayery. It was

1152
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: like as a whole because they always paid homage, like

1153
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: it was crazy. The love they showed in those fans,

1154
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: how much they appreciate that. I said, I won the

1155
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: championship with San Antonio, but the Wars organization is the

1156
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: only team that made me feel like family. Every year

1157
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: they bring me back, made me feel like made me

1158
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: feel like they appreciate what I've done my time. Then

1159
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: that's the only team That've done in my career. It's crazy, man,

1160
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: it's great. Shout out the War down and they got pictures,

1161
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: they got some pictures. I was up in the north.

1162
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: It's a whole journey. But like, do we believe and

1163
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: in our in our championship run, that's dominance, So we

1164
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: gotta go check it out there. We got to the

1165
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: last thing on Oracle. What was your most fondest memory

1166
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: or best game that comes to mind? Um? There? Uh,

1167
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: I mean I think most probably winning the the finals

1168
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: there and celebrating with all the fans like we had

1169
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: been waiting a whole year to have that, because we

1170
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: had two opportunities to do it the year before and

1171
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: and got beat and the next year we got it done.

1172
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: You know, celebrate where you win home. We went at

1173
00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: home from our game six. Was not like when when

1174
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: they wanted that's how it was celebrated at the house.

1175
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: I felt like, I felt like we wanted a warrior,

1176
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: but I'm a warrior. I saw so like just watching

1177
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: the clock run down, just seeing all our fans stick around.

1178
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: Fatty was driving and put the stage down, like all

1179
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: our families are out there and you just celebrating the championship.

1180
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: But you and your home venue like the town. Yeah,

1181
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: but the town. I wanted to wear my jersey out

1182
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: of there, artest ship. And you couldn't tell my kids

1183
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: they weren't on the team. They were holding trying to

1184
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: hold steps trophy, trying to hold the m v P

1185
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: like they were in the mix of kids and something.

1186
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: People hit me up like, Yo, yourselths are all over

1187
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: ESPN like they were upfront, like you would have thought

1188
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: they were steph kids. We gotta salute you with that

1189
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: bad for getting them both rings. Like what I'm saying, like,

1190
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: we gotta salute you for that. You know what I'm saying, Dad,

1191
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: We gotta give your props. We don't get you while

1192
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: you still here. I did as much as they did

1193
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: in the playoff front, but I appreciate that your sons

1194
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: probably played more than That's what I just said I

1195
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: did as much as the twin. I was hurt though.

1196
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: I have the fund up part though, because I finally

1197
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: get a chance. Like my whole thing is I took

1198
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: less money to win, and I in the sit where

1199
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: I can win, so that I come in because Katie

1200
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: gets hurt, you know, play well and then the game

1201
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: Katie comes back, like I almost break my ankle, So

1202
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, a right funk, I gotta hurry. If can

1203
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: get this ankle, he want to play that, I'm gonna

1204
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: win a championship. So for me, like when I tell

1205
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: people the story in the seting with the seventeen stuff,

1206
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't really count the ring because I was someone

1207
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: who always I had to get out the mud, you know.

1208
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 1: I mean, so I wasn't out here fighting with these guys.

1209
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: I was in and out Patrick all three of his

1210
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: you got to count. It is different. It's different going

1211
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: to shine the same. Your name is on that roster.

1212
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: I think when they say NBA champions, when they introduced

1213
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: me and you want ship, they say two NBA champions

1214
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: out of here, that should county. I don't want to

1215
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: hear that. You think Ray still got my I got

1216
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: a truck right down and get my ring because I

1217
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: left it at the thing because I wait, what when

1218
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: they came in introduced it to me, they had locked

1219
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: it up before they locked it up during the game.

1220
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: For me, it's only one we know who is right

1221
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: from Oakland. He got locked out. You got a locked

1222
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 1: down transitioning um, meeting your wife at fifteen and having

1223
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: a public relate. We had d Wade and we spoke

1224
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: to d Wade. Uh, you know about a public relationship

1225
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: and your wife is obviously blazing her own path. But

1226
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: tell me what that's like. You know, obviously a childhood

1227
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: love that's transitioned into a beautiful marriage with the family

1228
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: and kind of the prototypical like this is like the

1229
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: new family that the curries, or you know, a power movement,

1230
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: which is wild to say because I'm just living my life. Man.

1231
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: You know you saw that, you know you saw on Instagram.

1232
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: But to get you, I used to care. But to

1233
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: get you, I used to care. I thought you saw

1234
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: that all over Instagram. Know I had to feel good.

1235
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: I got anyone man, like you got one. But it's weird.

1236
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: It's wild because like I was talking about as as

1237
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: my dad and my mom, how they raised us her

1238
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: her parents are saying, like, there's always perspective, right, And

1239
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: I grew up in the NBA, but I was just

1240
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: a kid man, and I had a really cool child experience.

1241
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: Like fifteen, I meets We don't we're out dating high school,

1242
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: but um, you know, we talked a little bit. And

1243
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: fast forward with four years. I'm out in l A

1244
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: at the s p's because uh we just went to

1245
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: our terment, run and me and this is me and

1246
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: my dad flying from Charlotte. I've never been to l

1247
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: A before. I here for the s I was like,

1248
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: I remember, I remembers. I remember she moved out here

1249
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: because she was out here pursuing acting. So she had

1250
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: graduate from high school and came right out here to

1251
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: pursue acting. But we weren't talking at all. So I

1252
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: hit her up and I was like, Hey, I'm out

1253
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: in l A like chilling whatever, Like you gotta show

1254
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: me arounds. Ain't never been out here before. So we

1255
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: reconnected then, and like a couple of months later, she

1256
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: had moved back to Charlotte and I'm still at Davidson,

1257
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: which was like thirty thirty minutes away, so we got

1258
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: to kind of keep it going um. And from there,

1259
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: like we were just two kids just enjoying life together

1260
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: and not really normal was about to happen. Um. And

1261
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: when I get to the league, like again, I'm just

1262
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: living my life. As as the spotlight starts to grow

1263
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: and all that you're dealt with judgments and expectations and

1264
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: everybody just wants to know every step you take and

1265
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And it's kind of uncomfortable at times

1266
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: because as human as you react to stuff like stuff

1267
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: that said about you and your family and all that

1268
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: type of stuff, and and the personally is like you

1269
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: want to take it a stride and like you don't

1270
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: want to react to everything because you'll lose your mind. Um,

1271
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: But you want to protect the integrity of relationship we started,

1272
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: you know, way back when. So it'sn't ever changing kind

1273
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: of thing for us. Because even as you bring kids

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01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: in this world, like how are you going to raise

1275
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: them with this spotlight as well? And keep their minds

1276
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: right direction and give them perspective and give them a

1277
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: chance to have a quote unquote normal childhood and stuff.

1278
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: So a lot of responsibilities, but God, don't make no

1279
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: mistakes man. For me and and her, like I think

1280
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: we we appreciate the ability to inspire and impact people

1281
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: because of our relationship. Like that's if we can do it.

1282
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 1: Like we're not afect, got ups and downs and there's

1283
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, challenges and like every other relationship

1284
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: in this in this in this world. But um, if

1285
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: we can kind of persevere through all that stuff, man,

1286
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: we can be an inspiration expectation. Feel like what it

1287
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: means to to find somebody you want to share life with.

1288
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: And I don't wanta get too sappy, but like that's real, real,

1289
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: it's real, right, and it's rare too, especially in our profession,

1290
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, so I think it's dope. The example you

1291
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: guys said, it's amazing, So I'm trying to figure it out.

1292
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: You look me forever to find him, but you did

1293
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: mean only eight kids, seven kids later, he's still looking.

1294
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: Dude though, you're a very proud father, you know, your

1295
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: daughters or your world when you finally got that little boy. Wow,

1296
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: it's what that's like, man. He is something lighter skin

1297
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: saying come out shooting from he You're gonna come out shot, Kenny.

1298
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: You got you got it locked and loaded in the

1299
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: diaper right now. He's seventeen months. Man, he's he's unbelievable.

1300
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: Uh named after my my granddad was Cannon Wardelle Jack.

1301
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: That was my granddad's name. And so uh he's the

1302
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: first real boy and neither side. Uh first boy grand baby.

1303
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: So he's he's spoiled, rotten. Uh, but he's unbelievable. It's

1304
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: kind of cool to see our old two older girls

1305
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: liked not just be about them anymore. And and and

1306
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: uh they what low key? I feel like I just

1307
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: met him. My wife, My wife is holding him hostage

1308
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: the whole first year. Now the girls got a hold

1309
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: of him, like Cannon, I'm over here. Man, that's kind

1310
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: of looking like when when you get five and get

1311
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: the gym on that ball told him, you know, he's unbelievable.

1312
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: So when we blessed seven four and one, like I said,

1313
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: that's amazing ages right now coming into that little personality, Dope,

1314
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it. It's like crazy thing, just like you know,

1315
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: like you said, taking a kiss of the game, Like

1316
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: the first time I gotta take my son and say

1317
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: him on the bench and my dad was there next

1318
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: to him, and like just thinking about like that used

1319
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: to be me, man, Yeah, that part of it still

1320
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: was crazy. We'll talk to on your girls too, because

1321
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: off camera you told us that they designed these shoes

1322
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: right here, put them up on the table. Jack putting

1323
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: the Jordan's up on the table. Tell us, tell us

1324
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: about the man inspiration through the girls. Yeah, so I

1325
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: uh I gave I gave Riley she's seven, that I

1326
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: gave her and her sister and Ryan who's four, the

1327
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: cat drawings to the you know these shoes. It's probably

1328
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: what a year ago, so these were just in the makings.

1329
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: And told her you just go, Daddy's gonna make a

1330
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: new shoe, but I want you to design it. And

1331
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: so you should see the focus on the first bro.

1332
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: She when you put a task and fund, she took

1333
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: the took the drawing and got the crayons out and

1334
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: just went to work. And uh I told her to

1335
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: make like a bunch of different options and then bring

1336
01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: me what her favorite one was. So I only stick

1337
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: to the first one. Like just let lew when we

1338
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: went through this whole process. Man, she she did it

1339
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: and you a put it together. I got the Riley specials,

1340
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: the draft. He asked Cheetah girls like she just started

1341
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: watching it. It's crazy. Now we got to bring back

1342
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: all old shows, like the shows we used to grow

1343
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: up on. I'm not saying I grew up cheata girls,

1344
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Another bring like showing up.

1345
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: We watched Home Alone, the first one we just want

1346
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: the other night with the fan They're like, what is this?

1347
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: But they loved it. The Yeah, all the classics, right, yeah,

1348
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: that's we get to relive out you a little bit

1349
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: and tell me what is I mean? Think about it

1350
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: while we're talking about shoes, mid major out of Davidson

1351
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: and then you come out change the face of the

1352
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: game and you got your own shoes, Like tell me

1353
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: what kind of dream? And this run has been like

1354
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: for you, like you know, you know you're the light

1355
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: skin of sass, like you change the NBA. Did you

1356
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: believe that can ye done to the game? I can't

1357
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: because I grew up watching them. And um, I remember

1358
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: the first pair of signature shoes I had. I had

1359
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: some shocks, like besides of Georgan's, I had some shocks

1360
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: and that was the ones I used to rock in

1361
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: the games all the time in high school. And like

1362
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: thinking about uh being a position where seventh going on

1363
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: a shoe and represent the brand like like you A

1364
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: and and the team and changing the game like all

1365
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. It's just crazy because I don't

1366
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: think you ever have time to stop. I don't know

1367
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 1: if I should, Like, you don't have time to stop

1368
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: and just think about it all perspective because you're still

1369
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: on that chase in the moment. Uh. It's it's crazy, man.

1370
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: The coolest part like when you're walking down the street

1371
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: somewhere and you see, uh, you know, somebody rocking your

1372
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: kicks like you. I just want to know, like why,

1373
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: like why are you connect with it or why do

1374
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: you want to rock them? Like? I know they hopefully

1375
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: make you shoot better, but it's like that part of

1376
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: people connect to see your story. You want to rock

1377
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: your gear? That's crazy. I heard. I was listening to

1378
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: his podcasts the other day. You can get let with

1379
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: two pair of these for that. I heard, come on,

1380
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: were talking about the shoes. I said, you might get

1381
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: pay about two three? How you get that? Lets you

1382
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: know that, you bro, that's a good one. But that's

1383
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: a funny story. I remember what you know. I've been

1384
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: talking about the Twins so much because they really funk

1385
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: with you. But I remember when I was playing for

1386
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: the Clippers. Then it was career day and one twin

1387
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: came out with my jersey and one twin came out

1388
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: with step jersey. Is like, Dad, I'm sorry, and people like, oh,

1389
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't. Like I was like, I can't be made

1390
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: like Steph. I mean, come on, man, it's Steff, you

1391
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I think it's dope to

1392
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: be able to Like I said, what what you mean

1393
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: to this next generation is really mad? Like I said,

1394
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: we talked about the game you change, but like I

1395
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: coached the next generation and you're the guy. You know

1396
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I said, it's handling and learning

1397
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: how to shoot, you know, man, So it's really hatsoft

1398
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: really what you've been able to accomplish up to this point.

1399
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: Although the stories still you know, plenty of plenty more

1400
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: to write. You've been able to do a lot in

1401
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: this space. Man, we appreciate you as hey. I said,

1402
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: Ai his top five players of all time. He said,

1403
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 1: you like that. You know it's funny. I have that

1404
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: saved on my phone because that that's that's so that's

1405
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: like I talked to all the time. We tell because

1406
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: like ten times through the conversation. But like for him

1407
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 1: to say that, it's crazy right, like I'm never gonna

1408
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: get never I ain't ever have a big head where

1409
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: you like that, dude, I I picked up a lot

1410
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 1: of the game and inspiration from that. He's now looking

1411
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 1: at my game like, yo, he's my one of my

1412
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: favorite PG. Like that's for him to say that. At

1413
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: the same way, like he said, there's so much love

1414
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: for me as well, and in the spirit of the

1415
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: times where we know, like some o gs they don't

1416
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 1: want to relinquish the and that part of it, like

1417
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: when you see the guys actually like the same way

1418
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 1: we respect the os like we wanted both ways. So

1419
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: when you do hear that, that means that means something, man,

1420
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: for sure, up man um, I heard a rumor that

1421
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: your mom finds you a hundred dollars for every three turners.

1422
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: That true, it was anything. Yeah, three turners. I had

1423
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 1: to give a hundred dollars and so she got a

1424
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: lot of handbags. Let's put it crazy and she'll be

1425
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: up there like you be yelling at me, but she'd

1426
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: be mad happy. At the same time, he's coming into

1427
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: I need hundred I need stephree more turnovers tonight and

1428
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get this bad. Yeah, there's a lot of

1429
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: sports be over there with my assist turnover ratio and

1430
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: she's like, but I'm enjoying it too. Explain your your

1431
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: relationship with Nipsey. Obviously, you know he was someone I

1432
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: looked up to, admire, got to be friend and come

1433
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: close to, you know, to us, he's a legend. He's

1434
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: on the wall. Tell us what your relationship Like. I

1435
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: talked to Jay Rock the day, so he said, what

1436
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 1: up to I mean, I I got to know him

1437
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: the year before he passed, and uh, he came on

1438
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: my five Minutes from Home show to time ez day

1439
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: that came up to the bay. You know, we hopped

1440
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: in the back of the sprinter and like part of

1441
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: that film and it's usually only takes like an hour

1442
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: to get you know, the footage. You have a good

1443
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: conversation all that. Like I feel like I was talking

1444
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: to him for way longer than that, just because of

1445
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: how real he was and his perspective on life, and

1446
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: like the way he talked about his daughter and raising

1447
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: her and his relationship with Lauren, like all that type

1448
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: of stuff was just real. And obviously his music, you know,

1449
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: it stands for herself. But um, you have God in

1450
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: the spotlight that you know, it has a story and

1451
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: has a journey and is able to turn that into

1452
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: inspiration you know, beyond any probably anything he imagined. But

1453
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: the way that he carries himself speaks about more than

1454
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: anything that he does and the work that he does

1455
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: in the community and all that type of stuff that

1456
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 1: you know, his legacy is gonna live on forever. Um.

1457
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 1: But it's just like I was. It shook me because

1458
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: I just I literally just met him and you know,

1459
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: you you appreciate people like that that have an impact

1460
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: on you. Um. But I'm sure somewhere you felt like

1461
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: you knew him forever because that's how open, real and

1462
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: raw he is. It's like, it's exactly why I watched

1463
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: that episode. I've watched it probably five or six times

1464
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 1: since since, uh, since you did, because there's so many

1465
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: gyms in there from him in terms of yeah all

1466
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: the time. Um, anyway, he speaks just us approachable like you.

1467
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: He takes you on a journey to like you can

1468
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: tell like the's authentic and and that that part of

1469
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: it is uh and special, so you know, to his

1470
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,799
Speaker 1: family and all that, Um, you know, I know everybody

1471
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 1: has the back and and uh, the legacy he leaves,

1472
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 1: we we all have to carry it right, you know,

1473
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: you know all you know a special unique way. So

1474
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 1: with them rest in peace. Now we saw that you

1475
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: attended Kanye Sunday Service. What was that like? Please tell

1476
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: me what that was like? Was? I absolutely loved it? Bro?

1477
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: Like the Sunday Service is for I don't I don't

1478
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: put this one. I don't care somebody's passed. You know

1479
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: what they stand for, Like you cannot agree with somebody,

1480
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 1: um and in any and everything that they say. But

1481
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: when they come in and I think it's when they

1482
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: come in and represent Jesus and they're talking and everything

1483
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: that they do and the music and the vibe and

1484
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: the spirit that that that you feel in that place,

1485
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: like it was it did something to me, like in

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01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: terms of you know that what two and a half

1487
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: hour you know experience and so, um, I'm rooting for him, man,

1488
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: like I'm rooting for him in terms of what he's doing,

1489
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: the journey that he's on. Um, you know, if if

1490
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 1: if he can change or you can believe that that

1491
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: that's positive to anybody can that's and I'm not going

1492
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: to discredit you know, my God and that in that respect,

1493
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 1: And so I was I was curious about because I

1494
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: heard so many people go on and and just you know,

1495
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: the the choir or the collective you know their name,

1496
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: and with Kanye and just from his album and all

1497
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: that type of stuff, like I wanted to experience and

1498
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: I had a great time. Man, it was it was

1499
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 1: legit him. That's one thing Jack says, you know, we

1500
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: we don't have to always agree with what Ione saying. Well,

1501
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: we'll keep that line of respect, you know. I mean,

1502
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: I think just in culture today at the disrespect is

1503
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: you have to sit down and have a conversation too.

1504
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: Like that just the normal part of his Yeah, being

1505
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: able to open that door and have some actual progress,

1506
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: because if not, we're just gonna sit on the other

1507
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 1: side of line and just yell at each other the

1508
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: whole time, or like Cash Judgment to talk you know,

1509
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: some trash about you and nothing's gonna happen. So for

1510
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: him to put himself out there too, that's the thing

1511
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: for me, Like, that's huge. So I'm rooting for what

1512
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: are you listening to or right now? With the top

1513
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: five artists? M hmm. I still write with Loup at fiasco. Hush, Uh,

1514
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: what's crazy? He's from Charlotte to the Baby is he?

1515
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: And I knew? I know high school. He went to

1516
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 1: Advanced high school and all that right, a couple of

1517
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: miles from where I grew up. I ain't ever met

1518
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: him wherever he's at, I ain't never met you. Moment,

1519
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: gotta go do something, man, seven o four is we

1520
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,560
Speaker 1: were like doing things right. I can't believe you have

1521
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: the man. I know, it's crazy. That's on both of us.

1522
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: I mean from here now. Once you meet Steph, just

1523
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 1: come fun with our podcast The Baby all the Year. Yeah,

1524
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 1: but uh, and then I got I got Christian artists

1525
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: and do listen, I would see the Baby and all that.

1526
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 1: Let's just do a name tarn Wells, Christian artists, Christian artists,

1527
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: tarn Wills. You might not. You gotta take a chance.

1528
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: It's just a different, different, different. I listened to a

1529
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: lot of the Gospels, so I would I'll check it out.

1530
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: It's a little, a little in the New Age. He

1531
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 1: got some flavor. And then you got a friendship with Drake.

1532
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: What's that like? It's it's all over the place because

1533
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: we was like because brother, honestly Uh, it's crazy because

1534
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: obviously it started from the first name dropping hit with

1535
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 1: the chef Curry with the pot right, and uh, I

1536
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 1: think I think was like but from there we have

1537
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,600
Speaker 1: some connections on and both of our families. Asha his

1538
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: cousin as part of O your crew and and uh

1539
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: and so we spent a lot of time together. And

1540
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: does he has your number tattoo on it? Yeah? Yeah

1541
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 1: with the halo. I think, yeah, that's like the one

1542
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 1: are you talk to him about? That is like him

1543
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 1: respecting greatness all across the board, whether it's some people

1544
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: that he just he always tattoos me, it's me and

1545
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: something so like it's nothing corny about it's literally like

1546
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: when you appreciate some Um, that's that's that's that's love.

1547
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:40,839
Speaker 1: So last year was fun because the whole Toronto connection

1548
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: and all of him talking trash from the court. Um,

1549
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 1: he was talking to me, Draymond. Everybody's good for basketball. Yeah, man,

1550
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:48,759
Speaker 1: I ain't a lot. There's a lot of talk about

1551
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: him with his antics and stuff in the side he

1552
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: didn't do the owner of the team, and he was

1553
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 1: passionate about what's going on here and like that's getting

1554
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: everybody going and it's raising the popularity game as long

1555
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: as he ain't interfering with the actual game, right what

1556
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: you want? Yeah, he ain't gonna do that, so uh

1557
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: I called him after the finals. I was hot, I

1558
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: was reason old all or no. I was just mad

1559
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 1: because we lost. But I was trying to like congratulate

1560
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 1: because I'm not hurt. Hurt, goddamn it, congratulates. I'm over

1561
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 1: laugh crying. Like it was fun. It was fun. He

1562
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 1: shows love all the time, So tell me what it's

1563
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: like when he started hearing like being dropped in songs,

1564
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: like with different artists dropping your name the song. What

1565
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 1: was that like? It was fun, man, because anywhere you go,

1566
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: like the people you hear that, they wouldn't call your

1567
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: name no more. But um so, I can't keep a

1568
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 1: tab on how many times has happened since then. But

1569
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: that was like the first one that actually you know, uh,

1570
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, change the change, change that. That's a little bit.

1571
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: Uh my favorite one that was hilarious. Cardi b got

1572
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: the one with me and she's like, I don't want

1573
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 1: to get married, like the Curry Stephanisha barely Tommy Keh Like, yeah,

1574
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: that's that's my favorite joint. That's one of my biggest

1575
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 1: songs to ye before we get out of here. We

1576
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: got a couple of quick hitters. Um all time, you're

1577
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: starting five all time. Clude yourself if you want. Oh,

1578
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 1: you asked me right now, that asked me what I'm

1579
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: done playing? But right now, Oh, that's crazy. I think

1580
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 1: I've answers before. I'm probably gonna have a different, different

1581
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: start in life. So we go, Magic Michael Larry uh

1582
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:49,879
Speaker 1: wait shock, let me make sure I got my positions,

1583
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: Magic PG Michael shooting guard Larry small forward ain't powerful?

1584
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan, of course, how can you not? Yeah the name?

1585
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: Give me three of the most underrated players you played against? Oh,

1586
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 1: I like that question? Most underrated question Mike Conley, Drew Holiday,

1587
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: jew Holiday, Seth Curry, Seth Curry, I like that? Like

1588
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: what's that like? You know? I mean because you you know,

1589
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 1: I mean you took the small road school road and

1590
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: became a superstar. He took the you know, major school

1591
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 1: and then it's taking him a while, but he started

1592
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 1: to find his footing. But what's crazy about Seth is

1593
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 1: like a step before. Dude, he was at Liberty University.

1594
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 1: I didn't know that most Bury Virginia and he played

1595
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: his freshman year there. I think they're like the Big

1596
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: South Conference. He was leading the hes A nation as

1597
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: a freshman scoring and the team started playing like crazy

1598
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: Jankee defense againting against him because it's his teammate. The

1599
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,560
Speaker 1: town on the on the squad was was okay, but

1600
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: everybody was just trying to take him out of it.

1601
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 1: And it's like, I can't get better here if they're

1602
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: gonna play box and one or triangling to on me

1603
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 1: in the old games. So he proved himself at Liberty.

1604
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: Coach k came calling, so he transferred. The Duke played

1605
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 1: there for the three years um and he had an

1606
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: injury a senior year, he had some uh shin fractures,

1607
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,799
Speaker 1: so he missed the whole draft process pre draft process.

1608
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 1: He didn't get drafted and had to go to the

1609
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: D League at the time of the G League route

1610
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: and for him like to have like the crazy ups

1611
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 1: and downs like small D one school duke G League

1612
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: back to getting some ten day contracts and then finally

1613
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: established himself as an NBA player now unfast four or

1614
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: five years and man just gotta get some bread. So

1615
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: and he earned every bit of it. So Um, that

1616
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 1: part of it is so much fun to watch because

1617
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: he's my guy and I'm as big as fan and

1618
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: everything that he does, and you know, you always you

1619
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: want him just get an opportunity because I know what

1620
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: type of player he is and he's supposed to be

1621
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: an NBA. And and to think last year and Commons

1622
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: finals were playing against each other and my parents up

1623
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 1: there and just nervous and crying and emotional and all

1624
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: that it was. It was unbelievable. Yeah. No, I saw

1625
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: him laugh when he plucked you that time. Oh my god.

1626
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 1: I had like talk about turnovers and my mom getting handbags.

1627
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 1: He was he was responsible about five don't know my

1628
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 1: brother never to this day, he one person I cannot

1629
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: beat the one on one for some reason, current player,

1630
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: the reminds you of yourself, anybody, I mean a little

1631
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 1: bit of Trey. He's he's more baby still. Yeah, he's

1632
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 1: got he's got he's got that element. Uh that's about it.

1633
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 1: I think that's all I can think that I could think.

1634
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: Last question taking you and your team out of the picture.

1635
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: Who who who do you think? Who do you think

1636
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: will be in the finals this year? No? No, leave

1637
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: your team, keep it real. Leave your team in the picture.

1638
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 1: Ain't winning, ship, Really, I ain't winning this year. Ain't

1639
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: got the super coaches ship. Man, that's our little brother.

1640
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 1: You know what time it is. Leave y'all team in there.

1641
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 1: Take his team out of you know what time it is.

1642
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: It's just what it is. Man. You'll need a break. Man,

1643
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 1: you've been playing basketball for the last fifty years, all

1644
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: went to the finals. You'll need a break. But really realistic,

1645
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: leave your team in there. Yeah, can you rephrase this question? Please?

1646
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 1: Who's winning it this year? With his team in there?

1647
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: Don't take him out. I'm gonna say, if I was

1648
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: betting right now, I bet you don't come get me

1649
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 1: right right, But if I if I had had a

1650
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 1: pick right now, maybe the Lakers in Milwaukee just because

1651
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: they play and I was watching every game of that

1652
01:22:55,640 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: right right, Yeah they are they got it right now.

1653
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm knocking on stocks. We appreciate it, man, Thank you.

1654
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get that headline Steph Curry. Thanks

1655
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 1: the Lakers and the Milwaukee Bucks gonna be that's a wrap. Man.

1656
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 1: Episode thirteen with my brother, Yes, sir, we did it again.

1657
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: Said you were funny this episode. Man, he was on

1658
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 1: your ship I appreciate it. I want to thank Matt

1659
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 1: Barnes for the two seventeen NBA championship. Yeah. Man, they

1660
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 1: weren't want to without Matt. One though. I was up

1661
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 1: there cheering my Assholly, my asshole. Yeah. I even killing

1662
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 1: me all year, even killing you was on your ship. Yeah,

1663
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,759
Speaker 1: and he got me back. It's the first Nime comebacks

1664
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: and the parts I said you'd be saying, you said,

1665
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 1: I said myself thirteen episode and finally got a funny

1666
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,959
Speaker 1: joking ship. He got me. Anyways, that's a wrap episode thirteen.

1667
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 1: All the smoke, Steph Curry. We appreciate you, man, I

1668
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Bro. You can find a Showtime Basketball YouTube

1669
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: channel on all platforms. Screaming podcast all m m hm

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Speaker 1: m h, m hm m hm