1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I and 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Matt and today we are breaking down business and investing 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: with the fellas from Earnier Leisure. Yeah. Earnier Leisure is 4 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: a podcast assocted by Rashad Blau and Troy Millings, and 5 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: on their show they talk with guests who are earning 6 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: and investing their money in all the different ways, ways 7 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: that a lot of folks probably don't even know exist. 8 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: Rashade and Troy give a behind the scenes look into 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: different industries and they highlight what makes those industries tick 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: as well as what makes their guests successful. They like 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: to say that Earnier Leisure is a college business class 12 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: mixed with pop culture, so we're looking forward to a 13 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: blending of the two together today as we dive into 14 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: personal finance and business. Fell us, thanks for joining us 15 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: today on the podcast. Thank you for having Thanks for 16 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: having to appreciate it. Dude, It's about time. We've had 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: some listeners reach out there like you gotta get them on. 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 1: We're like, all right, we'll do it. Yes, that sounds great. 19 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: So excited to have you guys with us. Base everybody 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: that suggested it. Yeah, dude, Oh seriously, You guys do 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: have a passionate fan base, But we gotta say that 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: the first question we ask anybody that comes on the show. 23 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: Matt and I were super into craft beer. We found 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: out before we started recording. You guys are not into beer. Um, 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: which is totally fine. We can still be friends, but 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: but it is the thing that we splurge on in 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: the here now while we're trying to intentionally save and 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: invest for the future. What is that for you guys? 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: Do you have a splurge or a craft beer equivalent? 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: I would say sneakers For me, I'm a big sneak ahead. Um, 31 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: so before, even before when I was teaching, I always 32 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: had a sneaker budget. These teachers that, and so I 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: knew how to have fresh sneakers that the kids wouldn't 34 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: respect me. So, how many pairs of sneakers do you have? CHOI? Um, 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: I cap it out a hundred. If I get to 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: a hundred, I started I started giving peers away. Okay, 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: that is a lot of shoes. Yea. I mean you 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: gotta have a special closet, right, Like, do you have 39 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: a I actually have a shoe room. Yeah, I have 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: a shoe It's it's color coordinated stack nicely. There you go. 41 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: You gotta send me, send us a picture of that. 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah, for sure. What about you. I don't 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: really do too much spurs on anything these days. But 44 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm traveling. It's probably my something I enjoy most in life. 45 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: So um, that's probably like ninety cinema budget. That's splurge 46 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: herblest towards traveling. But other than that, I don't really 47 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: have any any habits. So anything that I really spurs 48 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: on too much. Hey, that's responsible. I means you're I 49 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: means you're investing that money, right, poured it back into 50 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: the business. Yeah. Well you know, so speaking of the business, 51 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: right we're talking about your show or in your leisure 52 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: Where did the name of of of your show come from? 53 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: You know, basically like what's your what's your origin story? 54 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: Like how did you get started? Yeah? So, Uh, was 55 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: was doing his own social media age and uh it 56 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: was growing pretty fast. He was doing you know, the 57 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: behind the scenes stories of business in a very unique way. 58 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: And uh, one day we were working out and he 59 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: was like, I want to create this little campaign, but 60 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: I need a hashtag. And so he told Mike other partner, 61 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, we gotta come up with a hashtag. And 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I spent a day and I thought, oh, 63 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: earn your leisure, and um, I just thought it would 64 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: be fitting because people think that we we come from 65 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: uh well diverse community where there's nothing but wealth, and 66 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: we never had to work hard and we were kind 67 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: of silver spoon kids. And I'm like, they never saw 68 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: us working two jobs, going to school at night, uh, 69 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: not having money, you know, having conversations about how we're 70 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: going to be successful, you know, really questioning like where 71 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: are we going with our lives? And um, to that point, 72 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: it was like everything we had gotten we had earned, 73 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: and so it was like, yeah, we've earned the luxury 74 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: to have the things that we've had. We we were 75 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: known in our in our town for having nice parties, 76 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: nice cars, uh you know, occasional beautiful women around and 77 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: of people just let that that came naturally. But you know, 78 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: we had work to out for all those things. And 79 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: so it was like, Ernie leisure, that I think that 80 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: would be fitting for the hashtag, and so he kind 81 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: of used it, and um, he stopped using it for 82 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: a little bit because he just kind of felt like 83 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't that great, And one of our good friends 84 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: Banks was like, I really liked that, you should keep 85 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: using it. And so one it was time for us 86 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: to come up with a podcast, we were thinking of 87 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: a name, and uh, we both had different names for it, 88 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: and uh, we kind of I'm kind of glad we 89 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: didn't use it. We probably would have got sued by 90 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: Puff for the name. So we ready, you know, Ernie 91 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: Leisure was a hashtag, and so you know, we just 92 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: kind of said, all right, let's use that. We own 93 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: that we're the only people using it. That's gonna be 94 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: our name. Man. I feel like there's so much in 95 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: a name, right, Like people people gravitate towards something that 96 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: like has a story behind it, and earn your leisure 97 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: has a has a story behind it, Like it has 98 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: a message right that like work hard so you can 99 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: so you can like have fun and play at the 100 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: same time. I feel like that that says something, right. 101 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: Then there's a lot in that name in those three words. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Um, 102 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: it started to mean something different to every person that 103 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: heard it, and everybody, I mean everybody. The common theme 104 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: was like I love the name because you have to 105 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: work for freedoms and financial freedom is one of those 106 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: things that can change the trajectory of your life and 107 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: your family's life. And so it was so fitting and 108 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: the definitions people were coming with it was so profound. 109 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, we got something that's gonna stick because 110 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: it means something different to every person that hears it, 111 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: but everybody wants it right. Everybody wants to earn their 112 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: freedom or their leisure. And so we were like, yeah, 113 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: we got one, find something sticky, you stick with it. So, 114 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: I mean, so, did you know, did you two start 115 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: talking about you know, personal finances, You're you know, you're 116 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: talking about money, you talking about business here? Is that 117 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: how the show got started? Basically you're looking for a 118 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: way to just share that information with with other folks. 119 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: How did the actual podcast come about? Yeah, the podcast 120 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: came about from just my Instagram page of you know, 121 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: growing that my own personal brand as a financial advisor. 122 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to kind of, you know, be known in 123 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: the world of social media as a fining you an 124 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: expert financial advisor on Instagram and I would go on 125 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: other people's shows, any show that would invite me, public 126 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: access show, radio show, anything, and I would just take 127 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: myself and then chop up clips and put it on Instagram. 128 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: And then from there people I thought that those clips 129 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: was actually from my podcast, so they were asking like, 130 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, where can I see this full episode? And 131 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, this isn't actually my show. This to 132 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: somebody else's show. So people kept saying like, well, you 133 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: need to have your on show, you should have your 134 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: own podcast. Um. And then from there, you know, the 135 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: momentum just just just kept building and those clips really 136 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: started to go like viral online. I thought it would 137 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: be a good idea to actually start on show. So Troy, 138 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, I speak to him every day. So when 139 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: I was coming up with this show, I asked him 140 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: if he wanted to be my partner for this show, um, 141 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: because I felt like, you know, most podcasts have co 142 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: host two people as opposed to just one person. So um, 143 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: I thought it would be a good idea to have 144 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: him as my co host for the show. So he 145 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: said yeah, and uh, that's how it actually got started. 146 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: So that's how, actually me how it got started. We 147 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: didn't really start the podcast, but the you know, the brand. 148 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: It was really meant to just keep growing my own 149 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: personal thing that I was doing and attraction that I 150 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: was getting on going other people's off of other people's shows. Um, 151 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: we thinkured we could just do our own show, and 152 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: then uh, two years later we had now there you go. Well, 153 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: I love that you guys are best friends too, man 154 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: Like I think literally, Matt and I are best friends. 155 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: But this is the first best friend combo we've had 156 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 1: as guests on the show, which I don't know how 157 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: uh it's it's fitting, though. I love that that you 158 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: guys are the first best friends we've had. I want 159 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: to say to like man, I was, I was scrolling 160 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: through some of your YouTube videos and just uh, a 161 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: lot of times when you look at the comments on 162 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: YouTube videos, it's like a cesspool of negativity. But man, 163 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: like everybody, the responses and stuff from from your viewers 164 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: were so positive, And there was one that really caught 165 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: my eye. Someone said, seeing so many successful people of 166 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: color has changed my outlook. Thanks, uy L. And it 167 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: sure seems like you guys are feeling a void in 168 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: the financial space. Is that you see yourselves? Is that 169 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: what you see yourselves as doing is basically like taking 170 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: advice to a group of folks that usually are underserved. Yeah. Absolutely, definitely. 171 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: You know, the message of financial literacy and business UH 172 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: was kind of I don't want to say it was 173 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: left out, but you know, for a long period of time, 174 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't delivered to our community for sure, in a 175 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: way that they can understand it and from messengers that 176 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: they that they related to. So a lot of people, 177 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: millions of people were left out of business conversations, were 178 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: left out of financial literacy conversations because it wasn't delivered 179 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: UH in a way that they can understand it, and 180 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't delivered from people that they can understand. So 181 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: us coming UM and I feel like we definitely filled 182 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: that gap and bring millions of people and all over 183 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: the world that you know, we're left out of that 184 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: conversation or just felt uncomfortable taking part in the conversation 185 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: because they didn't understand it and they felt like, you know, 186 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: it might have been over their head, or they might 187 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: have felt that was too boring for them or too 188 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: complicated for them. So, you know, we try to make 189 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: things as easy to understand as possible. We use a 190 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: lot of UM cultural references and try to you know, 191 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: as you said at the beginning of the show, we 192 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: mix UM it's a business course mixed with pop culture, 193 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: so all of that just kind of blends for an 194 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: interesting dynamic. And it's not just you know, black people, 195 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: not just Spanish people, as for anybody all over the world. 196 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: But of course, you know, us being African American, um men, 197 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: that's the language that we speak. So it's easy for 198 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: us to you know, talk and and relate to the 199 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: people because these are the same people that we grew 200 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: up with, the same people that went with the high 201 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: school with the same people that you know we see 202 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,479 Speaker 1: in the barbershop. So you know, these are the conversations 203 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: that we're having on Earn Alisia, and we're bringing people 204 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: on on Earn Alisia that you know, may have been 205 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: looked over, um entrepreneurs that are doing great things that 206 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: are killing the game, whether it's real estate, whether it's stocks, 207 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, trucking, un aimen and um there's 208 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: are young majority young African American entrepreneurs that have been 209 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: looked over by mainstream media that nobody has recognized, and 210 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: we give them a platform to not only be celebrated, 211 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: but more importantly to educate. So now they're actually educated. 212 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: So not only are they getting a message from us, 213 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: but they're getting a message from the guests that we 214 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: bring on, and the guests that we bring on UM 215 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: they can relate to as well. So it's very encouraging 216 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: for a lot of people to actually see the diversity 217 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: in business and see the diversity in UM in education. 218 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: I think that it's something that has lacked for a 219 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: long period of time, especially in the business world. I 220 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, and you know you mentioned this too, 221 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: But you're a financial advisor, Troy, you're a teacher. Did 222 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: you guys see that as a combo, you know, like 223 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: a perfect fit, the two of you coming together like that. Yeah, 224 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: it actually started. We started UM in a summer program 225 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: that I was running. Uh. You know, obviously when you're 226 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: a teacher, you got some resolved, but I always used 227 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: the summer to find a way to teach kids in 228 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: a different format. I was teaching health and visit during 229 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: the school year, and UM I taught like a financial 230 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: literacy program in the summer on a summer intership program. 231 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: But financial literacy was a component. And so when I 232 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: started it, and he was just starting his financial advising career, 233 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: and so I told him, you know, one of the 234 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: components of the programs, I want you to come talk 235 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: to the kids about money at the time, you know, 236 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: they would enter for six weeks and at the end 237 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: of it, I was going to pay them like five dollars. 238 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: And so it was the first fourteen years old, so 239 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: it was the first time they were come into contact 240 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: with money. I wanted them to have a to understand 241 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: the relationship of money, how to use it, I think. 242 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: I think one of the first lessons we talked to 243 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: him was how to save, how to spend it, how 244 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: to share, which is a valuable lesson for adults and children. 245 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: But they got the concept and so we turned that 246 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: into something very special. Right, So they got the financial literacy, 247 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: and then they got to see real world application. They 248 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: would come in, we'd interview them, see what they wanted 249 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: to be in the future, and then explore it. We 250 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: exposed them to careers that they never thought were possible. Right, 251 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: a kid comes and tells me he wants to be 252 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: a pediatrician, which will take him to a doctor's office 253 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: and let them see what that's like. They wanted to 254 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: be an architect, We take them to you know, affirm 255 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: that has architect and they get to be that person. 256 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: For six weeks and it was so valuable that um, 257 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: people were like, we need more of this, we need 258 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: more of this, and um, it kind of gravitated to 259 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: turning it into the podcast. Really, if we look at it, 260 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: we were showing kids what careers they can do. When 261 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: that was showing adults and kids all the different types 262 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: of careers and ways they can make money as entrepreneurs 263 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: and businessmen and winning. Dude, that's awesome. And yeah, what 264 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: are some of the biggest obstacles maybe when you're trying 265 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: to talk about money with young folks, with fourteen year 266 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: olds like, um, that that can be you know, Matt 267 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: and I bemoan the lack of personal finance education in 268 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: high schools growing up. I think there's six states maybe 269 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: the require a personal finance class and so you know, 270 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: you get out there into adulthood and oftentimes most people 271 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: learned through a bunch of bad beats. So reaching kids 272 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: young at a young age is so important. But what 273 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: are some of the biggest challenges when you are trying 274 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: to reach young people to teach them about personal finance. Yeah, 275 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: I think the biggest challenges is that is not required 276 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: during the ten months of school. Yeah, And so knowing 277 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: that I wanted to treat the site weeks in the 278 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: summer that I had them like the ten months that 279 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: they missed, and so we made no secret. We would 280 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: tell them like, hey, we make this much money or 281 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: we have this much money. And the first thing that 282 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: kids respect is when what they can see. And so 283 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: if they see it and you show them how they 284 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: can do it and what it means to invest in 285 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: stocks and how you can make money, they gravitate towards 286 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: it because nobody's told them this before, right, like, you 287 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: can make money right now. We can show you how 288 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: to make money in the stock market, we can show 289 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: you what taxes are, like, nobody was talking to them 290 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: like this, and so when they started to hear money language, 291 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, this is what I need. They 292 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: started thinking like why why am I learning about trigonometry? 293 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: No disrespecting they trigonometry teacher, but you know that a 294 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: lot of them are like, we am I gonna have 295 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: a use this? And it's tough as a teacher to 296 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: say you will one day, knowing that you know you 297 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: probably won't. Probably not imetry since high school personally, you 298 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so when we talked to 299 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: them about things that related to their everyday life, sales tax, 300 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: stay tax, income tax, again, teaching them how stock market works. 301 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: It was like, oh, this is this is what I 302 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: really needing. And so they would they would eating it up. 303 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: They would eating it up, and every year they wanted 304 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: to come back. And that was the only thing about 305 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: the program after they left, you know, the goal was 306 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: to get them a job. By the time they have 307 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: a fifteen and a kids always got a job, and 308 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: so they still wanted a piece of the program, and 309 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: so all things like, how do we scale this, this 310 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: need right now, these kids want this, how do we 311 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: scale it? And so we found the way through our 312 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: your leisure. Obviously, you talk about money all the time, 313 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: just like Joel and I. We don't see it as 314 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: being weird at all. I mean, we're talking to people 315 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: about money, about what they're doing their money. We're talking 316 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: to our friends about it, and they're kind of sometimes 317 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: we're like, hey, man, back off, you know, But like, 318 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: do you see talking about money and finance being perceived 319 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: that's a bad thing in social spheres that you guys 320 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: are involved with. No, I don't think talking about money 321 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: is a bad thing. I think that you know, for 322 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: a long time, it's like kind of been taboo even 323 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: like a lot of in like working class, of middle class, 324 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: of poor households, like it would be like never acts 325 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: your parents how much money they make, never asked them 326 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: about building anything like that. But it's like, that's to me, 327 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: that's the really the wrong way to go about it, 328 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: because if you if your kids aren't aware of money, 329 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: if you're not teaching kids about money, and they're gonna 330 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: be ignorant about money and they're gonna make a lot 331 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: of mistakes. So that's kind of a backwards way of 332 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: thinking that I think we're moving away from UM. But 333 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: for us, it's never been an issue to talk about money. 334 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, definitely, you know, I think that more so 335 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: UM is like an environmental thing growing up families, households, 336 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: things of that nature, where money wasn't talked about. All 337 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: money was off the limits as far as you know, 338 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: never asks parents about any finances at all. That's not 339 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: a child's place. But in my opinion, it actually is 340 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: a child's place because if the parents are educating them, 341 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: who is going to educate them? Yeah? Yeah, And Matt 342 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: and I we've got a bunch of youngsters of our own. 343 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: Mask got four, I've got three, and um, we're trying 344 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: to teach some stuff that we didn't learn about growing up, 345 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: because you know, at least in my house, money was 346 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: not talked about, and in fact, it was something that 347 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: that led to a lot of It was actually more 348 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: of a source of difficulty and never a place to 349 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: learn from the difficulties that we encountered, and it just 350 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: became a topic that we swept under the rug, which 351 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: led to a lot more you know, odd ways of 352 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: me viewing money and had to correct those over the 353 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: years as I became an adult. Um, because we we've 354 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: got more to get to with you. With you, we 355 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: want to talk specifically about investing in your personal approach 356 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: to money. We'll get to some questions on that right 357 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: after this break. All right, we're back. We're talking with 358 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: Rashod and Troy Fellas. Let's let's kind of dive into 359 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: investing here. You know, it sure seems like you guys 360 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: have learned a lot about all sorts of different investing strategies. Uh, 361 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, just from hosting your podcast or in your 362 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: leisure But what are some of the coolest things that 363 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: you've learned from the different guests who you have had 364 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: on the show. Um, yeah, we learned a lot from 365 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: a variety of different guests. Um. One of the things 366 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: that you know, really got my attention is we had 367 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: an MG the mortgage shout to him and he's a 368 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: loan officer and he has an interest in strategy as 369 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: far as real estate. Uh with four three to one 370 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: strategy where most people, you know, they start off their 371 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: real estate journey with a single family home and they 372 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: spend all of their money and they really can't afford 373 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: their home and they you know, kind of like living 374 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: that American dream where you got you overleveraged and dead 375 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: and you got a nice house, but you kind of 376 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: like underwater and just barely making mortgage payments. And that 377 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: really is a trap for the next thirty years. But 378 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: what he explained is, you know, never do that. Start 379 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: with a multi family ideally or for family unit if 380 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 1: you can, if not three family, um, and work your 381 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 1: way down. So start with a multi family and you know, 382 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: a decent neighborhood but not the best neighborhood, and um, 383 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: you know, work your way down. Talked about a lot 384 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: of different things how you can refinance and you know, 385 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: after year f H a refinance, get a new FH 386 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: a loan, kind of work your way down from four 387 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: family to a three family to a two family. So 388 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: by the time you actually do get the one family home, 389 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: it's the dream home that you really want and the 390 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: one that you really can afford. And now you have 391 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: all of those other units that's actually paying for the 392 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: mortgage of the new home, so you're not actually paying 393 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: for it. You have other homes that you've accumulated throughout 394 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: the years that's actually paying for it. So that was 395 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: something that you know, it's just a very simple thing. 396 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: It's not extremely complicated, but I never heard anybody break 397 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: it down like that. And when he explained it to 398 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: me and made so much sense because being a financial 399 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: advice I see all the time people buy homes and 400 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: they can't afford it. They have to cash out their 401 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: four one K, take a loan from their four one K, 402 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: deplete their savings, and they're doing every single thing possible 403 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: just to get the home. And it's like, Okay, you know, 404 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: you have a home now, but you really can't afford 405 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: to have that home, so exactly exactly, so to me, 406 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: that was one of the most powerful things that I 407 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: took away from a guest, Um, yeah I had. It 408 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: was two shoutut to our brother Will Street trapping he 409 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: and done that. And they we're talking about the power 410 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: investment indexes and e t f s and they used 411 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: the analogy of a basketball team. I thought it was 412 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: really a really profound way to look at it. When 413 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: you think of a basketball team, there's always a star player, right, 414 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: and so you can invest in the star player like 415 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: Lebron James, which would be equivalent to Apple, or you 416 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: can invest in the e t F like XLK that 417 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: has Apple inside of it at a smaller allocation, but 418 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: you're now getting the Western Conference also our teams, and 419 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: so that that when he said, Dad, I was like, oh, 420 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: that's that's a nice way to put it, right, because 421 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: in the XLK you got a bunch of companies and 422 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: so now you have Anthony Davis and you've got Steph Curry, 423 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: and you got all these guys that if you have 424 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: Lebron gets pulls his growing. Hopefully he doesn't this year, 425 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: but if you pull that going, you know you still 426 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: got you still got a great chance of winning the game. 427 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: And so when when they said that investment strategy. I 428 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I like that. That that's a that's 429 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: a nice way to teach people. Yeah, man, I love that. 430 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: And I don't want to throw anybody under the bus 431 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: or anything. But has there ever been any advice on 432 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: the show that like somebody was on I guess was 433 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm not sure, I'm sure I agree 434 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: with that, maybe or maybe that's not my favorite piece 435 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: of advice. Did anybody say something that just didn't sit 436 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: right with you or that just didn't resonate with you 437 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: and you don't have to name their name. Yeah, not. 438 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: I want to think the thing that the good thing 439 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: about the show is that we bring people on and 440 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: everybody has a different point of view and a different perspective. 441 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: So not that I actually didn't fully disagree with what 442 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: he said, but it was very controversial when Grand Card 443 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: Done came on and he said pretty much a lot 444 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: of things that nobody else had ever said when they 445 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: came on on the Leisure with don't buy a home, um, 446 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: debt is good and a bunch of other stuff. And 447 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: like I said, I mean, in the context, I don't 448 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: think that he was wrong for saying that, but a 449 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: lot of people kind of either they loved what he 450 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: said or they kind of, you know, it kind of 451 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: shocked them and they disagree with what he said. But 452 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: I feel like that's that's what platform should be. You know. 453 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: It's not us like just dictating exactly what is right 454 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: from our personal opinion. We bring different people along with 455 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: different points of views, and then it's up to the 456 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: people to make educated decisions for themselves. So that was 457 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: something that was recent that comes to mind, because, like 458 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: I said, that was kind of like a left field 459 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: for us for what we usually talk about. He doesn't 460 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: invest in stocks. I don't agree with that, but yeah, 461 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: he pretty much was like left from most of the 462 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: things that we usually talk about. Um, but it was 463 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: interesting to make for an interesting conversation for sure. Yeah. 464 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: I always preference it by saying, the thoughts and beliefs 465 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: of our guests are solely you know, like what says man, 466 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: It's a platform and people get to express their thoughts 467 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: and their opinions, and so I'm not necessarily here to 468 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: agree or disagree. I like to dive deeper into their 469 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: thought process. So how did you come up with that? Like, 470 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: how what made you get to that point of that 471 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: thought process. And so that's always interesting because now you 472 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: dive deeper into, like you said, it makes for a 473 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: better conversation because you're diving deeper into that thought process 474 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: and you get to even if you didn't agree with it, 475 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: you got to see somebody else's perspective and why they 476 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,239 Speaker 1: came up with it, and so that's enjoyable too. Well. 477 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: That's that's one of the most interesting things about personal 478 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: finance too, right, is that there's all these different roads 479 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: that you can take. There's different ways to generate wealth, 480 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: and you guys cover a ton of those ways on 481 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: on your show. But that's what's fascinating to I mean, 482 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: I feel like real estate people in particular, like somebody 483 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: like grand Cardone comes on the show and it's like 484 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: he's got a completely different perspective because he's kind of 485 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: gone all in on this one facet of wealth building. 486 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: And you know, Matt, Matt and I prefer to put 487 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: our eggs in a few different baskets and and try 488 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: to build wealth in a few different ways, building a business, 489 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: investing in stocks, investing in real estate. But man, some 490 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: of those real estate people get hardcore. They're all into 491 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: that leverage for sure. And leverage can can work for 492 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: you brilliantly. It can also work against you. It just 493 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: depends on the situation that you are in yourself. And Troy, yeah, 494 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: I like what you said to about understanding the thought process. 495 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's how a teacher thinks, right, Yeah, 496 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: it's I'm not sure that that shows too as especially 497 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: as you're teaching kids. But guys, let's's talk about your 498 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: personal approach to money. You know, um, y'all are all 499 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: about growing your money. It can it can be even 500 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: harder to spend and enjoy your money. I think while 501 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: you're hyper focused on growing your net worth. So how 502 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: do you, guys, maintain any type of balance in your life? 503 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: Umance financially, Because he doesn't have any balance, that's usually 504 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: the answer, that's usually answer when they acts about balance. 505 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: He alwaysays, I don't I don't have any better. But 506 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: but there's yeah, sometimes there's a balance between being hyper 507 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: focused on, you know, just trying to grow your net 508 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 1: worth as much as possible. But then others are out 509 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: there living life, spending left and right, and if you 510 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: do either one of those, you're probably not gonna end up. 511 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the day feeling satisfied. 512 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: So so how how do you guys personally feel satisfied 513 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 1: at the end of the day between you know, what 514 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: it is that you're investing in saving and what it 515 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: is that you are kind of living, living life spending 516 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: money on. Yeah, I think right now is a good 517 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: balance as far as that financially, it's enough income fortunately 518 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: coming in right now where we can still, um, you know, 519 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: live a pretty comfortable life. Um. You know, we talked 520 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: to you before. We're in Miami almost every other week 521 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: at this point. We do a lot of traveling and 522 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: you know we we live a different, a decent life. 523 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: So that's that's good. Um, we don't have to sacrifice. 524 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: That is enough money to still save and still invest. 525 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: But as far as balance, um, in other areas of 526 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: life and then you know, that's that's where you just 527 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: gotta work on. Is something that I'm still working on 528 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: as far as you know running the business and um, 529 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: it's something that's a twenty four hour job. It's not 530 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: like a nine of five job. There's no really off time, 531 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: so there's always something to do or you always think 532 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: about something to do, or there's always you know, different 533 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: things that you're you're looking at to improve or so 534 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: that can definitely take away from your personal life as 535 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: far as that your personal life balance UM. And I 536 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: think most entrepreneurs, probably most successful entrepreneurs, don't have a um, 537 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: you know, work life balance that most people feel comfortable with. 538 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: But that's why most people aren't successful entrepreneurs. So I 539 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, on a certain level, your life 540 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: is about sacrifice. So you know, it's something that you 541 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: have to sacrifice. If you're gonna really, you know, be 542 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: at the top of your game, You're gonna have to 543 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: be able to sacrifice some level of your personal life. 544 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: I think there's just no way around it. And I 545 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: guess it's just a matter of just having you know, 546 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: a support system, whether that's your family, your friends, your children, 547 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: your your wife, your husband, whatever, UM, that you can 548 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: understand that and be supportive of that, because I don't 549 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: necessarily know if it's possible to have a completely balanced 550 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: life as a full time entrepreneur. Yeah. I feel like 551 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: sometimes when you're building a business, it's it's like constantly 552 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,239 Speaker 1: humming in the back of your head sometimes like the 553 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: things that that you want to do, the things you 554 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: want to accomplish, or you just get a random light 555 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: bulb idea in the shower, and then you got like 556 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: you're just like ruminating on it for for hours like um, 557 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: even sometimes when you're not actually working, like it is 558 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: there in the background, and and sometimes it's just especially 559 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: when you're doing something you love, it's because you're excited 560 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: about it. So I totally understand that, rashand I don't 561 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: want to ask you something else. I want to ask 562 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: you about investing. Um, what's your take on like buy 563 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: and hold investing versus making short term bets? In your opinion, 564 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: is their room for people to take like a both 565 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: and approach? Um? I think sometimes you know, Matt and 566 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: I were partial to the to the buy hold strategy, 567 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: but you know, some people are wanting to get into 568 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: investing and they kind of want to see how something 569 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: performs for a year or two. Like, Yeah, what's your 570 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: take on long term versus short term? Yeah? I mean, 571 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: I think a long term is the easiest, the safest, 572 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: and I'm probably the most efficient way to do it, 573 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 1: especially if you're not experienced or if you don't have 574 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: a lot of time to dedicate. But it's not the 575 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: only way for sure you can make money. You know, 576 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: short term as far as you know, as short as 577 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: day trading or swing trading or you know, leave options. 578 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: So I personally I don't day trade, I don't swing trade, 579 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: but you know, we do do options, so that's not 580 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: really long term. Probably a long is that we'll do 581 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: a player option is two years, maybe three years if 582 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: if the option changes, really has extended for that period 583 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: of time. But once again, I feel like the long 584 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: term is definitely something that should be the cornerstone of 585 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: your investment portfolio. So if you want to diversify, in 586 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: my opinion, if you want to have let's say fifty 587 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: of your portfolio and long term twenty five percent options 588 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: twenty you know, in short term crypto a bunch of other, 589 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: you know, asset classes. I don't think there's anything wrong 590 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: with that. But even in crypto, our long term holes 591 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: and they're paying off because crypto is going back up again. 592 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: So all the coins that we have from two thousand 593 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: and seventeen, which you know it was looking very bleak 594 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, they're all all coming back 595 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: up now. So long term is definitely the key to 596 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: wealth the easiest way, in the most efficient way, And 597 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: I think the beginning point for anybody to start with. 598 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: But um, you know, you definitely can can play more 599 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: shorter positions, but you just have to be extremely knowledgeable 600 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: and not take too much risk and not over levelge 601 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: yourself because obviously the shorter the positions, the more about 602 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: and the more risk that's evolved. And be careful with 603 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: those margins we have doing them short term place right. 604 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys right about now too, or yeah, 605 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: you're you're feeling pretty good about that crypto, but you're 606 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: probably feeling pretty good about your Theoryum right now after 607 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: a shot shot recently Troit like you said too, We've 608 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: heard you say that, uh, how you like to treat 609 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: every dollar like a worker, which really stood out. I 610 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: just kind of like the philosophy behind that. But can 611 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 1: you just explain that a little bit, kind of talk 612 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: about that mindset. Yeah, I mean it goes it comes 613 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: down to having a savings account. Right, We've had savings account. 614 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: We've been talking for so long, especially for my parents. 615 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: Save your money in the bank, Save your money in 616 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: the bank, and um, if anybody knows money, you know 617 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: that the bank doesn't. You don't really appreciate when it 618 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: sits in the bank, right, and so we have to 619 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: work hard for our money, so we might as well 620 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: have our money work hard for us. And so I 621 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: like to just allocate a certain amount of money to 622 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: invest every single month, all right. So like if I 623 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: made a let's say I made ten thousand dollars, I 624 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,959 Speaker 1: might say six that it is going to my investment, right, 625 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: goes to goes to savings for my children and a 626 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: constudio account, and might go to uh, my wife in 627 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: any house expenses. And so we allocate percentages like that 628 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: because we can't have money just sitting like it's cool 629 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: to have a certain amount of savings, but after a 630 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: certain points, like the bank's gonna use that money anyway, 631 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: like we had we ran into that situation like last 632 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: weekend when we needed capital. We have to give the 633 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: the Bank of Advanced notice and it's like, this doesn't 634 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: even make sense. They're gonna be they're using it for 635 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: their advantage. We have to use it for us. So 636 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: every dollar that we make, we have to treat it 637 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: like a worker and it has to go out and 638 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: make some more. We gotta get more workers there. You go, 639 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: get more workers, put them to work, and you know, 640 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: just keep them asking right now, like what we're equal 641 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: opportunity employers. That's awesome. Are all money is welcome? Yeah, exactly, 642 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: all money welcome here. All right, Well, we got just 643 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: a few more questions to get to with you guys, 644 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: including we want to talk about business you actually talked 645 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: about like interviewing someone who had like a successful trucking business. 646 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: I'd love to talk more about that, and just other 647 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: business ventures. Will get into some of those questions right 648 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: after this break. All right, we're back. We're talking with 649 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: Rashot and Troy, the fellows behind Earn your Leisure and 650 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: uh and guys on your show. Every week you're talking 651 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: with an entrepreneur, right who seems to be essentially paving 652 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: their own path oftentimes you know, it's in the sports, 653 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: it's in the entertainment industries. Are you seeing any career 654 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: trends that look to be like consistently working out for 655 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: for your guests or or actually even for your listeners 656 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: who you might hear from. Well, we've actually been uh 657 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: dedicating most of our time the last six months and 658 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: so in stocks. So a lot of people have like 659 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: it's been a windfall of people that's interested in stocks, 660 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: that's something that's something that um, you know, most people 661 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: are interested in. But as far as something that has 662 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: been working for the business owners, I would say systems. 663 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: The business owners that we that we have seen that 664 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: are the most successful that have come on our platform, 665 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: the one common theme that they have UM in common 666 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: is that they all have extremely efficient systems in place 667 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't inquire require them to actually physically be there. 668 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 1: And um, they all have very strong staff um that 669 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: they've incorporated. So you know, I think that's something that 670 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of times as entrepreneurs, we try 671 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: to do every single thing ourselves, and you can only 672 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: go so far. Um if you are running a one 673 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: man show, and um, you know, reinvesting in your business 674 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: and you know, taking that money to invest in other 675 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: people is probably the best investment that you can actually 676 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: make because now that actually allows you to not only 677 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: free up time, but to scale the business at a 678 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: much quicker rate than you would if you you know, 679 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: still trying to do everything with one person. So those 680 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: are something that we learned and even from our personal journey. 681 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: You know, the more um, the bigger that we get, 682 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: the more we bring on. As far as employees, workers, 683 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: helpers and it helps a lot. Not like I said, 684 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: not only from just a mental standpoint, I haven't do 685 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: everything yourself, but as you have more time freed up, 686 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: you can focus on things that are most important to 687 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: generate revenue, to bring more revenue in, and you don't 688 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: have to worry about, you know, the low hanging fruit, 689 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: things that can just walk down your attention in your time. 690 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: And another thing that that a lot of the guests 691 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: who come on who are driving in business, a characteristic 692 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: that they have is that they're they're consistent, like they're 693 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: always trying to grow, they're always trying to promote themselves, 694 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: always trying to get better, and their fearless, right like 695 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: they they've they've come through trials and tribulations, they made 696 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: mistakes and they kind of look forward to it so 697 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: they can get them out the way. And what they 698 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: do with the mistis is that they tell everybody that 699 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: they made them and that you can learn from these 700 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 1: so you can become better. And that's something that's really encouraging, right, 701 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: Like they're making the mistakes so that we don't have 702 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: to and we don't see that too often. And it's 703 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: a generational shift now that that a lot of people 704 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: who have come on our platform are doing it because 705 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: it saves a lot of time and money for the 706 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: people who are listening and the people are trying to 707 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: execute on the information. So those are Those are another 708 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: two things that we've seen a lot of the successful 709 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: people that have come on ROCHET. One of the things 710 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: you said was that you've been talking more about stocks 711 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: over the last six months. I saw the stat that 712 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: apparently more money has flowed in the stock market in 713 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: the past five months than over the prior twelve years. 714 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 1: It's just this like fascinating thing where, Yeah, everyone's kind 715 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: of obsessed with the stock market right now. Do you 716 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: think there's any downside to that? Like, is is there 717 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: maybe UM too much interest when it comes to investing. 718 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: Are are some of the people who are kind of, 719 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, newly getting into thinking about the stock market. 720 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 1: Do you feel like there's you know, room for some 721 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: of them to get taking advantage of UM based on 722 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: kind of the way things are right now. Yeah, definitely, 723 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: especially you know, going back to our conversation about short 724 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: term situations. A lot of times a lot of people 725 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: are getting hurt with short term option plays or day 726 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: trading or you know, investing in crypto without actually knowing 727 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: what they're actually doing. So definitely definitely. I think that, 728 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's important before you do anything to be 729 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: fully educated and understand what you're doing. And uh, you know, 730 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: it's not Vegas, it's not just the slot machine, but 731 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: investing can be synonymous with gambling if you're coming with 732 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: a gambler's mentality. So definitely, definitely. I mean, you know, 733 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: there's unfortunate stories, even with Robin Hood, you know, men 734 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: like that, you know, committed suicide offer off of that 735 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: UM option trade. There was actually a mistake, but he 736 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 1: thought that he was down like seven hundred fifty dollars 737 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: and so yeah, there there's been a lot of unfortunate stories. 738 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: A lot of people have lost money, and um, I 739 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: guess that's just part of it, unfortunately. But definitely it's 740 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: encouraging to see so many people that are interested in 741 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: it and coming into space. But like all things, there's 742 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: always you know, negative size of it, So I guess 743 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: that would be the one negative side that you know, 744 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: some people are um going a little bit you know 745 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: aheaded himself, jumping into things that they aren't fully knowledgeable of, 746 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: and um, yet hurting themselves financially. I like that both 747 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: of you all focused on things that anybody can implement. 748 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping that you would say something like, 749 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: all right, being an agent, like that's the new thing 750 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: as far as a career or an industry. But I 751 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: like that y'all focused on things here that regardless of 752 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: whether you you know, are a wage earner, you know, 753 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: whether you work for somebody else or if you're looking 754 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: to start your own thing, these are are things that 755 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: you can do. Uh, there's processes that we can set 756 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: up in our own lives when it comes to our 757 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: personal finances as well, you know, speaking of business, Like, 758 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: I consider myself an entrepreneur, right, I feel like that 759 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: I'm fairly risk tolerant, but you know, listening to a 760 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: few year guests on your show, like it makes me 761 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: realize and I'm actually pretty conservative with my ventures. So, like, 762 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: what advice do you have for folks who are out 763 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: there They've got an idea, uh, they're thinking about starting 764 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: their own business, but they kind of need I don't know, 765 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: like they've like they need to like a little push 766 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: out the door or a little kick in the butt. Like, 767 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: what advice would you give us folks when it comes 768 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: to setting out on the round, if you can find 769 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: a mentor, that's always great because you know, I'm mental, 770 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: will stop you from making a bunch of mistakes that, um, 771 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: you will make on your own if you if you're 772 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: just trying to figure it out. So even if you 773 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: have to pay for mentorship, UM, that's something that I 774 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: think most people should consider. If not, um, well even 775 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: if you do, but definitely if not, research, research, research, 776 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: and get as much information as you possibly can. Is 777 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: so much information on pretty much anything that you want 778 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: to learn now online um, Google, YouTube, books, etcetera. So 779 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: you know, really really become an expert in your area, 780 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: not just okay, I like foods, I'm gonna open a restaurant, 781 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: Like you have to understand what you know food costs. 782 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: You have to understand you know hours of operation, the 783 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: label laws in your state, and you know electricity and 784 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: all of these different peak hours that people come to restaurants, 785 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: and what days you should be closed, what data should 786 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: be open, all of these things to you know, something 787 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: that most people don't think about. And one of the 788 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 1: reasons why our most businesses failed because people just open 789 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: the business because they have a passion for something or 790 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 1: they want to do something. But you know, the passion 791 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: is only a small part of actually running a business. 792 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: The more important part is actually understanding the numbers and 793 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: understanding the business model behind it. So these are things 794 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: that like I said, I mean, you can educate yourself 795 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: or you can get educated by somebody else that has 796 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: already made the mistakes. Um. But either way, education is 797 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: extremely important and um probably the first step that anybody 798 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 1: should take before going out and starting a business. And 799 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: in addition to that, I would say, don't wait for 800 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: a perfect time. A lot of times what we get 801 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: caught up and saying I have to have this, I 802 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: have to have that before I can start. The first 803 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: thing is like what he said, getting started, Man, jump 804 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: up the porch. Right, You'll learn as you go. The 805 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: mistakes are gonna happen, but that's part of the process, 806 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 1: and that's part of the journey. Right, That's the beautiful 807 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: part of it, is that you're gonna learn, and as 808 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: you learn, your grown. Another thing I would I would 809 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: add is the network of us. Right. You may not 810 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: have the best uh personnel when you start, but if 811 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: you look across and you might find somebody that you know, 812 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: that can do some of the skills that you need. 813 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 1: In that way, you don't have to hire somebody and 814 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 1: expensive rate. There's people are around you dead that are great, 815 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 1: and so use those resources while you have them. This conversation, 816 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: it kind of makes me think, actually, I heard I 817 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: heard one of you guys talk about or both of 818 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: you maybe in an interview, talk about the Atlanta water Boys, 819 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: And that's kind of this thing. You know, Matt and 820 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: I we live in Atlanta, and that was kind of 821 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: this big, big deal there for a few months and 822 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: it's still kind of is in in the news on occasion. Um. 823 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: I feel like basically it was these these young fellas 824 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: who were were selling water at some of the the 825 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: you know places where people would get off the interstate, um, 826 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: and they were getting demonized in the press, and I 827 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: felt like these guys, these kids actually had some gumption 828 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: what really they just needed some direction. But like, in 829 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: your opinion, like, how do we reach kids like that 830 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: who have this entrepreneurial spirit, who have this desire to 831 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: kind of start their own business, but they lacked the 832 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: means to really like funnel it properly. Yeah, I think 833 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: it's um, you know, on the starts on the ground 834 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: level as far as once again, education and you know, 835 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: letting them know that you know, it's good that they 836 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: have the entrepreneur spirit, um, but they just need a 837 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: little bit more you know, season and Um, they just 838 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: need a little bit more you know, coaching and different 839 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: ways to you know, find tune the the spirit that 840 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: they have. As far as entrepreneurship. So mentorship once again, 841 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,959 Speaker 1: that goes back to mentorship. So you know, mentorship works 842 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: in two ways. UM. You know, it's good to seek 843 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: a mentor, but I feel like if you if you 844 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: have some level of knowledge, then it's always good to 845 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: become a mentor as well, because that's especially for young people, 846 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: that's really the best way to learn. I think that's 847 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,439 Speaker 1: the best way to learn period. But like I said, 848 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: young people, especially in the problem is that most people 849 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: don't have mentors. Um, especially you know young men. Um, 850 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: they don't have mentors. So these are programs that I 851 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 1: think actually should even be implemented on the school level. 852 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: U where you know, you have a successful you know, 853 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,919 Speaker 1: business leader in the community and um, maybe that could 854 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: even be part of a school budget if they don't 855 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: have enough you know, time to do it for free 856 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 1: where they can come in and actually teach entrepreneurship classes 857 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: and give people that are interested in going down that 858 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: path some guidance. Um. But you know, a lot of 859 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: times we complain about what's going on, but you know 860 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: the best way to solve a problem is to be 861 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: part of the solution. So you know, instead of you know, 862 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: just complaining about it, maybe if you're in the area, UM, 863 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: maybe you can start an internship program, or maybe you can, um, 864 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, encourage the school to change something. And this 865 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: is this goes for any any place in America or 866 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: any place all over the world, especially like I said, 867 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: when you see young people as you know, it's like 868 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: we can complain about them being a problem, but if 869 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 1: we're not giving them solutions, then we are really the problem. Yeah. 870 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: I think he's one percent, right, I haven't. I mean 871 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: the way they've been portrayed, it's kind of puzzling, right, 872 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: Like do these young men are trying to get money? Um? 873 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: Have they got at the connotation? Yes? But how many 874 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: people have stopped their cars, got out their cars and 875 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: tell them listen, there's a program that I want you 876 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: to come to at this place. Right, have we provide 877 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: resources for these young men to actually get the education right, right, 878 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: I challenge people to do that before they criticize them, 879 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: because if you don't, then they'll be out there for 880 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: the next two or three years. We need to come 881 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: up with a place where they can go, or they 882 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: can learn the education, or somebody can provide them with 883 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: the education to use some of those skills that they have. Right, 884 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: If you ever stopped and talk to these these young men, man, 885 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 1: they are clever with their speech. They have the gift 886 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: to gap, and so we need to use some of 887 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: those skills and maybe just fine tune them and put 888 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: them in a different medium. Yeah, man, channel those skills. 889 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: It feels like, um, you know, I got criticized or 890 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: I got bad grades sometimes bad marks for talking a 891 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: lot when I was a kid in school and look 892 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,760 Speaker 1: at me now and like look at me now podcast 893 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: hosts right, like, And I was talking to my mom 894 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: about it the other day and she was like, man, 895 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 1: like some of the teachers the way they would talk 896 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: about you know, like I understand I was probably a 897 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: little bit of a nuisance. But at the same time, 898 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: like there's they're they're like those are things that can 899 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: be channeled into something good, And I feel like the 900 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 1: same thing is happening with like the Atlanta water Boys, 901 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: Like there is an entrepreneurial spirit, there is this desire 902 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: to to make money through a way that is um 903 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: right now, like it's looked down upon, But I feel 904 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: like there's you know, you get that spark exists and 905 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: it needs to be you know, someone needs to use 906 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 1: it and harness it. Yeah, and and and help help 907 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: these kids grow that entrepreneurial love and spirit and drive 908 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: as opposed to like squashing it and telling them to 909 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: like stop doing what they're doing. You know. Yeah, yeah, 910 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean I've been on both sides of that coin. 911 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: It's interesting, Like I was a kid that the teachers 912 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: would talk about right, and so I used to remember 913 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: arguing with with my teacher, I'm like, how can you 914 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: take ten points off my final grade because I talked? 915 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: Like I went from a ninety to eight because I 916 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: talked too much, But I'm doing good in class. And 917 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: then to hear teachers talk about students in the sat 918 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: Nanta and what it came down to is that the 919 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: reason that they had these issues because they need to 920 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 1: see people that look like them and that they could 921 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: resonate with, and they can look up to right and 922 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: they can keep them engaged. And so if you have 923 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: all those things, they'll be ready and willing to learn. 924 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: And I think we can do that. We can do that. 925 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: It is not just Atlanta water Boys. Is any young 926 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 1: young man and young woman who who lacks a guy 927 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: into last resources. We have to find ways to keep 928 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: them engaged. Um and financial literacy is definitely one of 929 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: those ways, because everybody, at the end of the day 930 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: wants to make money. They just don't know how and 931 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: they don't have the tools or the people around them 932 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: to teach them how to do it. Troy, I like 933 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: that you've done that yourself as a teacher. You know. 934 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: You even kind of going back to the beginning of 935 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: the episode here we talked about you guys are both 936 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 1: doing that internship as well, and yeah, exactly. I mean, 937 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: and that's a huge part of what we love about 938 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: what we do as well. I mean, we're talking about money, 939 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,919 Speaker 1: We're talking about something that everybody out there needs to hear, 940 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: and if we can present it in a way that 941 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: is able to point folks in the right direction, I mean, 942 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: that's that's good stuff right there. So man, we felas 943 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: we appreciate the conversation and y'all taking the time to 944 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: talk with us. Where can folks hear the podcast working 945 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: folks learn more about you? Yeah, for sure, thank you 946 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: for having us. But earn your legion across all platforms YouTube, Apple, Spotify, 947 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: I Heart, UM. You can listen to the podcast on 948 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: all audio outlets and you can watch you earn your Legion. 949 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: You can follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, TikTok earn 950 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: your lesia across all platforms and UM, shout out to 951 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: the to the good folks at my Heart for linking 952 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 1: us with you guys, and keep up the great work 953 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: on your end. Yeah, we are definitely fans of what 954 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: you guys have going on, So it's honor for us 955 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: to be able to be on your platform. And big 956 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: shout out to all of our family over at the 957 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 1: Black Effect Podcast Network or the podcast that over there. 958 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 1: Shout out to everybody and know the team over there. 959 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,760 Speaker 1: Awesome dude. Yeah, well I'm glad we're on the same network. Um, 960 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: it's an to get to chat with you guys and 961 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: and hang out for a little bit. So seriously, thanks 962 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: for coming on. We really appreciate it. I appreciate you. 963 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: Thank you. All Right, dude, what a great conversation we 964 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 1: just had here with Troy and Rashad the fellows behind 965 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: Earn Your Leisure. Uh, fantastic conversation just about personal finances. 966 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: You know they're upbringing like the their history with money, 967 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: but just kind of the things that they're doing now 968 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,240 Speaker 1: as well with with money and specifically on the show. 969 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. But yeah, man, it's time to 970 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: get to our big takeaways from the show. What's something 971 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: that stood out to you? Yeah, there was a lot there. 972 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: There's a lot that I could pick from, but I 973 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: will say I think the thing that stuck out to 974 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: me the most was when Troy said the messenger matters, 975 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: And man, I think that's so true. I think that 976 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 1: was one of the reasons we started how the money 977 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: was there were a ton of personal finance podcasts out there, 978 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: but it's not like we were way smarter than everyone else. 979 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: We're like, we're going to kill him with knowledge and 980 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: be like, by far the best one. It was like, no, 981 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 1: our voices matter in this space. And I think Troy 982 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 1: and Rashad's voices matter so much in in this space too, 983 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: And so I think I think they're right. I mean, 984 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: I think different people can reach different folks based on 985 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: their experiences, based on their personality, based on their approach, 986 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: and so yeah, I love that they started our near 987 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: leisure and and they've gained quite a following for or 988 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: a reason, and it's because their voices, their message. Uh, 989 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: the messengers matter. And so I don't know, man, like, 990 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: that wasn't necessarily some golden personal finance nugget that I 991 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: took away from that conversation, although the worst I'm in there, 992 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: but that, to me was was one of the things 993 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 1: that that I walked away from that conversation being like, yeah, 994 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: and I'm glad their voices are are a part of 995 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,399 Speaker 1: of the broader personal finance conversation. Now that's so true, dude. Yeah, 996 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: So the my big takeaway was actually it was kind 997 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: of a golden nugget. It was when we're asking about, like, 998 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: what are some lessons some investing advice or techniques or 999 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: ways of thinking about things that they have learned from 1000 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 1: their guests, right, because as you know as hosts, that's 1001 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 1: something that we're constantly doing when we do interview folks 1002 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: were learning from them, and they mentioned that one of 1003 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 1: their guests talked about the four three to one method. 1004 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 1: And so when it comes to real estate, you know, 1005 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 1: try to start with a quad plex, right, try to 1006 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: start with the four unit house. If you can't do 1007 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: a four, look to a three, and you know, kind 1008 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 1: of work your way down. But essentially the reason that 1009 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: you know one is kind of at the end of 1010 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: the list here is that you're reversing the order that 1011 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: most typical Americans approach real estate. They're typically thinking about 1012 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: the things that they want for themselves first. Okay, this 1013 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: is gonna be from my family, my house. Let's look 1014 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,720 Speaker 1: at that single family home that's the one, and instead, 1015 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: basically by flipping that and turning it upside down, they're 1016 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 1: putting investing first. And so it's a re prioritization of 1017 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: where your money should go. So focus less on consumption, 1018 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 1: because folks will say that, oh, my my house is 1019 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: an investment, right, it's not quite the investment that investments. Yeah, 1020 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: that that investing in the stock market or investing in 1021 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: a rental property. Uh, in particular, you know triplex or 1022 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 1: a quadplex that that would be able to bring to you. 1023 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: And so at the core of that message that at 1024 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,280 Speaker 1: the core of four three two one is re prioritizing 1025 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: your money and making sure that you're investing first, and 1026 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: then after that you will be able to more easily 1027 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 1: accomplish some of the more lifestyle goals that you might 1028 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: have for yourself. Personally, I agreed, man, I was thinking 1029 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: house hacking when they were talking about that. That's you know, 1030 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: We've talked about on the show quite a bit, but 1031 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: I've never heard it put quite like that either, And 1032 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: I love that as a house packing strategy. The four 1033 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: three two one. Over time, you'll finally accomplish the goal 1034 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: of being able to live in a single family home 1035 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: that you love. She's gonna take a little time, but 1036 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 1: by the time you get there easily be able to afford, 1037 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 1: which is which is nice. It feels nice as opposed to, 1038 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, barely being able to pay that mortgage, like 1039 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: the like the guys talked about. All right, let's talk 1040 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: about the beer that we had on this episode. This 1041 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 1: one was called Changes, and the kind folks at Eighth 1042 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 1: State Brewing gave us these pills nurse to partake in. 1043 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on this beer, man, Yeah, thanks 1044 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,439 Speaker 1: to Eighth State. We're actually looking forward to drinking another 1045 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: one of theirs on our Wednesday show. But yeah, this 1046 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 1: one poured a nice golden, beautiful pills and her like color. Uh. 1047 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: And you know they're emphasizing a couple of hops here. 1048 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: I don't like s A A Z. I don't even 1049 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 1: know how you say that, says and and nang hops. 1050 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: Don't ask me. Yeah, I know I butchered it, but 1051 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: they've got those here on the label. And I would 1052 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 1: say this is a hoppier pills and Her. I feel 1053 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 1: like it almost has kind of like a clove like 1054 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: spice like flavor to it, Like it almost kind of 1055 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: reminds me almost like a Belgian beer to a certain extent. 1056 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: But it's really tasty, really enjoyable. Sometimes pilsners come across, 1057 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: it's just really clean and like very minimalists, you know, 1058 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 1: like like a picture like what you see on Instagram. 1059 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: When it comes to minimalism, I feel like that's what 1060 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: a lot of the newer pilsners are doing. But this 1061 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 1: one is like a nice, robust uh pilsner, guests, some 1062 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 1: nice flavors going on, really enjoyed. It really is packins 1063 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: for flavor and a pilsner, which I agree is is 1064 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: not something that you see super often. You know. We 1065 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: had one the other day that was a very clean, 1066 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,879 Speaker 1: sterile kind of pilsner. But I'm really liking that style now. 1067 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 1: But but also like, yeah, pilsner with kind of that 1068 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: hop edge going on at the same time kind of 1069 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: gives you the best of both worlds. I think between 1070 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: a pilsner and like a session, I p a more 1071 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: of that hot flavor, but it's still with that like 1072 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 1: pilsner profile that that makes it easy to drink and 1073 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: Pilsener profile going on. Yeah, pilsner vibe, and especially yeah 1074 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: during these warmer months, like it's nice drink of pills. 1075 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: It feels very thirst quenching, even though I'm pretty sure 1076 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: beer doesn't technically quench your thirst. So it does so 1077 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't know, Yeah, it's wet, that's what works, all right, 1078 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 1: We'll go with yeah. So all right, man, this has 1079 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 1: been a great episode. Listeners can find our show notes 1080 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 1: up on our website at how to Money dot com. 1081 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: Will make sure to link to Earn your Leisure to 1082 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,399 Speaker 1: make it a little easier for you guys to find 1083 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: them if you're interested, no doubt. All right, that's gonna 1084 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 1: do it for this episode. Matt until next time. Best 1085 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:17,919 Speaker 1: friends out, best friends out,