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Speaker 1: This is my opinion. I don't know anything, so Nini,

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Speaker 1: they call it scrubbed our interview here from her Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but people thought something of it,

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Speaker 1: and only because people asked me. I asked her just

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Speaker 1: to not be in the dark, and she was like, girl,

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Speaker 1: I just every now and then, I just cleaned up

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Speaker 1: my Instagram. And I get that she's allowed. Maybe she's

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Speaker 1: very specific about her Instagram and what it looks like.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they don't like me. Maybe she doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: be marketing this podcast long after it's even on. We're

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Speaker 1: not marketing it now. It was on and she enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it, like Nina doesn't have to be in

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Speaker 1: the Bethany business. And people were saying that maybe that

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Speaker 1: means she's going back to the show and that I

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Speaker 1: guess she followed Bravo or Bravo followed her. She said

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Speaker 1: to me, girl, I haven't spoken to them and don't

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Speaker 1: believe anything. I want what's mine and what's coming to

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Speaker 1: me and what's fair. And I always followed Bravo. I

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Speaker 1: think they just started following me and you saw I mean, Andy,

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Speaker 1: I have I would never share personal texts, but Andy

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Speaker 1: certainly has had a very strong opinion about Nini, and

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Speaker 1: I have thousands of texts to prove that. And at

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Speaker 1: Bravo Con he acted like you know, he was always

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Speaker 1: open to them making amends, but it was really her

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Speaker 1: who wanted him to keep her name out of his mouth.

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Speaker 1: She has been persona non grata at Bravo, and she

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Speaker 1: has definitely been blackbald. That's a fact. I know that

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Speaker 1: because I wanted to do something with her, and it

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Speaker 1: was she was blackbald by Andy, by the production companies. Like,

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Speaker 1: that's a fact that happened. So time heals all wounds.

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Speaker 1: And maybe now because that show isn't doing well, they

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Speaker 1: would like to have her back or are thinking of

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Speaker 1: her because Bravo is the land of you know, Jill

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Speaker 1: Zarin courted Andy on his own show and he was

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Speaker 1: so furious. Then he had her back, I think, in

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Speaker 1: another sit down, and then he had her come back

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Speaker 1: on Ultimate Girl's Trip and do guest appearances like I'm

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Speaker 1: the only one who's probably really scorched the kingdom myself

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Speaker 1: and Carol. Andy will never bring Carol back for certain

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Speaker 1: reasons that aren't totally specific, but I know that, and

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Speaker 1: I believe that I am persona non grata, but it's

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Speaker 1: also newer than the Niini kingdom scorched, so I don't

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Speaker 1: know where that all stands. But the truth is, if

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Speaker 1: Bravo wanted Nini back, and Nini wanted to go back,

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Speaker 1: then she should go back. People who are enjoying their

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Speaker 1: experience on the Housewife, people who are enjoying their experience

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Speaker 1: on the Housewives and being treated fairly, or want to

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Speaker 1: be there. I'm not paying their bills or their rent.

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Speaker 1: Nini said she hasn't worked in years, So if she

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Speaker 1: wants to go back there and they want to follow

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Speaker 1: her because they're courting her and their show's doing terribly,

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Speaker 1: or vice versa, she wants to go back because they're

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Speaker 1: going to give her what she wants and finally settle

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Speaker 1: with her and give her money. Go with God, go

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Speaker 1: for yours. I don't care what anyone does. I've never

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Speaker 1: been pro take anyone's junk food away. I believe in moderation.

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Speaker 1: I have no personal gripe with Bravo or with Andy.

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Speaker 1: I just called something out that was true and no

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Speaker 1: one else really had the courage to say, and it

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Speaker 1: totally landed, and it was right, and many media enterprises

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Speaker 1: are doing shows on it and very interested in the topic.

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't define me. I left Housewives twice. I

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Speaker 1: walked away from Bravo shows that were greenlit and after that,

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Speaker 1: and I just haven't wanted to be there more so

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Speaker 1: because I like this. I like non traditional entertainment. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to have to have a bunch of suits

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Speaker 1: in a room approve of something. I don't want network notes.

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Speaker 1: I want something to go up when I wanted to

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Speaker 1: go up, like my body, my choice. That's it. And

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Speaker 1: deep Nini can do whatever she wants with her Instagram page.

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Speaker 1: She can post whatever she wants. By the way, she didn't.

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Speaker 1: No one told her she had to promote the podcast anyway.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people don't want to promote podcasts and

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Speaker 1: we don't ask anybody to and she was gracious enough

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Speaker 1: to do it. But yeah, she doesn't like she's not

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Speaker 1: on the payroll, so she should do whatever she wants.

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Speaker 1: And Ninia are great, so all good. That's complete drama

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Speaker 1: and complete manufactured drama. And if in the event that

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Speaker 1: Nini is courting Bravo or Vice versa, she's not gonna

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Speaker 1: call me and tell me she doesn't owe me anything,

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Speaker 1: but she has proactively reached out to say that she

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Speaker 1: is not and they are not. So anything can happen

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Speaker 1: in a courtroom, and anything can happen on the Housewives.

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Speaker 1: If Nini Leaks returns to Housewives, it illustrates many things

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Speaker 1: that me speaking up and using my voice and reaching

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Speaker 1: out to her and giving her a platform to use

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Speaker 1: hers and say that she has been blackballed and she

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Speaker 1: wants to be heard, and she's out of work, and

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Speaker 1: now this whole reality reckoning has become a movement that

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Speaker 1: cannot be ignored that Bravo had to make changes and

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Speaker 1: send out letters about changes and scramble to get therapists

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Speaker 1: and change drinking policies and the way that people are treated.

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Speaker 1: If that provoked them to send an olive branch to

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Speaker 1: Niny Leaks, because she's definitely better on their side than

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Speaker 1: against them, I'm sure. And also it shows that the

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Speaker 1: franchise is in disrepair because Andy Cohen vowed to never

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Speaker 1: work with Nini again and never to speak to her

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Speaker 1: again after her claims. So I'd be ultimately very happy

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Speaker 1: for Nini if she gets whatever it is that she wants,

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Speaker 1: And I also would be proud of all of us

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Speaker 1: who spoke up and spoke out about the Reality reckoning

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Speaker 1: because it did scare the powers that be, it did

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Speaker 1: shock the system, and it is effectuating change, Like there's

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Speaker 1: definitely a change happening, and I think that's amazing. So

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Speaker 1: it's funny that Candy Burris says that she would welcome

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Speaker 1: Nini with open arms back to the Housewives. When Candy

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Speaker 1: was against the Reality reckoning, she spoke against it. But

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Speaker 1: it's literally because of the Reality Reckoning that Andy has

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Speaker 1: opened his eyes because before this whole thing, before he

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Speaker 1: used my saying we came up together, which I actually

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Speaker 1: said about Andy a couple of months ago on an Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Before him saying that he and Nini came up together,

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Speaker 1: he sang a very different tune about Nini, as did

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Speaker 1: every production company because she was persona and on grata

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Speaker 1: and I wasn't even allowed to pitch a show to

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Speaker 1: the network that involved Nini. They said, there's no way

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Speaker 1: she is completely she's been blackballed from Bravo and the industry.

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Speaker 1: So very interesting chain of events, interesting domino effect. And

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Speaker 1: I wish Neini the very best, and it was courageous

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Speaker 1: of her to come on and speak her mind. Good

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Speaker 1: for her. That just shows that speaking your mind does

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Speaker 1: work if it lands and if you choose your spots.

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Speaker 1: So this podcast has actually been pretty impactful so far,

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Speaker 1: and I want Nini to be happy and get everything

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Speaker 1: that many once