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Speaker 2: The John Annik and Kenny Florian Podcast, John Annack and

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Speaker 2: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of him. That big job, the

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Speaker 4: Cootufian Frank bers Hondu.

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Speaker 3: There are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 2: You're your hosts, John Anick and Kenny Florian's.

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Speaker 5: And still not self involved. We did the show for

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Speaker 5: five years for free. If you are celebrating President's Day

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Speaker 5: and perhaps you're home with your children sledding or seeing

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Speaker 5: the sun or doing something, I hope you're enjoying the

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Speaker 5: extra day off. No days off here, Kenny. Were your

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Speaker 5: kids on vacation last week? I guess they're a little

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Speaker 5: bit younger than mine.

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Speaker 4: Let's see, So they had a half a day on

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Speaker 4: Friday and then they have today off, right, So yeah, so.

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Speaker 6: They're in the general vicinity for you or.

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Speaker 7: No they are.

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Speaker 4: I think they went on some kind and I think

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Speaker 4: they went to the museum today with my wife. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: got out of the house while I do the podcast.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, get out of daddy's loud.

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Speaker 5: So it is interesting when your kids are on vacation

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Speaker 5: because there's just a lot of parenting involved. I went

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Speaker 5: to Florida last week with two of my three kids.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, one more day off today, and then pack

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Speaker 5: your bags, pack your lunches, get out of here, run

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Speaker 5: along now, scurry and we'll see at three point thirty

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Speaker 5: Quarder of four. Thanks everybody for being with us. We

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Speaker 5: are live today. As is always the case, It is Monday,

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Speaker 5: February sixteenth, twenty twenty six, Episode five eighty three of

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Speaker 5: the anakind Florian Podcast powered by All the Smoke Fight.

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Speaker 5: Thanks everybody for subscribing or resubscribing to the antikid Florian

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Speaker 5: podcast YouTube channel, where this show now resides. For the

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Speaker 5: first time in four years or so, we were on

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Speaker 5: the DraftKings YouTube channel of course, as part of that

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Speaker 5: partnership for the last four years. We can also be

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Speaker 5: found on All the Smoke Fight as well, and we

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Speaker 5: appreciate the heck out of their entire team. Cody Merrow

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Speaker 5: is still running the screws on the live production side.

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Speaker 5: So Michael Kiesa scheduled to join us here in a

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Speaker 5: minute or two. Will let him celebrate the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl win. Marinate in that because the last time

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Speaker 5: the Seahawks won the Super Bowl for him and he

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Speaker 5: does have a fight coming up, which we'll talk about

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Speaker 5: as well. But he was in his I think mid

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Speaker 6: So now he's a man.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's not a man yet forty, but he's

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Speaker 5: in a different phase of his life and I think

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Speaker 5: it meant a whole lot to him.

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Speaker 6: So we'll talk to him. He's got a fight coming

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Speaker 6: up in Seattle.

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Speaker 5: Mario Bautista will be joining us in about an hour.

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Speaker 6: We will talk to Ray Longo.

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Speaker 5: We do have a couple of would you rathers for

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Speaker 5: Ray today, time permitting, but a lot of MMA headlines

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Speaker 5: and a lot of topical things that we will get to,

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Speaker 5: some potentially with Mixed Martial Arts analyst Michael Kisa, and

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Speaker 5: some without. So you know, there's a lot of people

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Speaker 5: banging on the UFS. He's heavyweight division. Kenny right now

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Speaker 5: al Meda had announced that he was going to move

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Speaker 5: he's asking for his free agency if they're gonna ask

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Speaker 5: him to vacate the title. My goodness, man, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's really hard being a fighter. We've always said that

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Speaker 4: Gosh, it's been a roller coaster ride, you know, specifically

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Speaker 4: I don't think a guy like tom Asball would be

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Speaker 4: you know, to the give Way criticism, you know about

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Speaker 5: So it's February sixteenth, The White House Show is July fourteenth.

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Speaker 5: If you're the UFC when it comes to this heavyweight division,

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Speaker 5: Is it seaedle Gone and Alex Poeton Potata right now?

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Speaker 5: Is that the heavyweight fight with the dirth of an

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Speaker 4: I think that that's the fight to make. When you're

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Speaker 4: I think that's the fight to make, honestly, in a

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Speaker 6: According to most people, Islam versus Ilia.

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Speaker 4: He and Gary's going to Georgia. Is it Atlanta? Savannah

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Speaker 4: Georgia has an amazing history of wrestlers and wrestling. The

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Speaker 4: He's more of a quiet guy of course, as Lamahashev.

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Speaker 5: I just would love to see Islamikasha make a welterweight

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Speaker 5: to suggest that ili A Toputia couldn't be the welterweight

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I would say that Ilia is even small

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Speaker 4: to see him at one seventy skill wise, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: I think he's the most skilled fighter, skilled mixed martial

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Speaker 4: UFC doesn't like those, but I think Toporia's best bet

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 5: The White House event is less than four months away

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Speaker 5: June fourteenth. I misspoke, not July fourteenth, June fourteenth. And again,

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Speaker 5: look at how few undisputed titles are on the line

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Speaker 5: guest line. For my money, this guy is oncoming, not

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Speaker 5: even as welterweight because I think he might have one

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Speaker 5: mixed martial arts analysts, he is Canniball coming his Seahawks

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Speaker 5: or world champs. Michael Maverickie says with us, nice to

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Speaker 5: see you, buddy, congratulations on the Hawks. I'd imagine you've

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Speaker 8: My man, Oh, I'm going to live in it for

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Speaker 8: a year. I mean, come on, but John, what's with

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Speaker 4: John, he's kind of a man. He's in a log

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Speaker 5: Of all the things I expected to talk to you

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Speaker 9: I'll tell you why we did it, because the Seattle fans,

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Speaker 8: such an understatement. Like, I'm excited to go do what

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Speaker 4: I'm excited for you, man, And I'm sorry to hear

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Speaker 4: but it is going to be your last fight in Seattle?

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I guess I'll just be the I guess you guys

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Speaker 9: I think I've been kind of on the fence about it.

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Speaker 3: It's a hard it's hard. It's hard.

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Speaker 8: And Kenny, you know, I mean, you didn't even really

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Speaker 9: Because it's what it's. It's it's what I've done.

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Speaker 8: I wanted to fight out this contract. I want I

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Speaker 8: and that was my plan. I'm gonna fight out this

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Speaker 9: It's not like I want.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to go into free agency. I love

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Speaker 9: March twenty eight is on my parents anniversary.

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Speaker 8: I mean it's like the universe is telling me something.

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Speaker 8: So in terms of the matchup, the UFC knows what

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Speaker 8: they're doing. What's been my kryptonite, Tall lanky strikers with

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Speaker 8: Like, Look, he's no Kevin Holland, but he's a super

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Speaker 9: He's got power in his shots. We saw what he

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Speaker 8: I have to be very mindful defensively on the feet

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Speaker 8: I trained with Court McGee, and I knew that was

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Speaker 8: that fight. But for this fight, dude, it's been awesome.

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Speaker 8: I started training after the first of the year. I'm

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Speaker 9: Go harder than you ever have.

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Speaker 8: So then a you'll remember why you're doing, why you're

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Speaker 11: And that's what I'm doing.

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Speaker 8: So I think it's going to be hard because I

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Speaker 9: On March twenty eighth.

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Speaker 3: But this will be the last chance for me.

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Speaker 5: Michael Kisa, five weeks out from his retirement fight in

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Speaker 5: when I think back to your entire journey the Ultimate

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Speaker 6: You just were not going to be denied.

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Speaker 5: I get chills even just talking about it and losing

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Speaker 6: If this is like a thirty second fight.

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Speaker 4: Ya we call that fight together. That Ultimate Fighter finale

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Speaker 8: so many ways because you kind of planning that seat

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Speaker 8: in my head to kind of start dipping my toes

440
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Speaker 8: into this this other.

441
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 9: Career, this other path, this other goal that I've been chasing.

442
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 8: I never thought about getting into broadcasting until you just

443
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 8: kind of started putting in my ear and you kind

444
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 8: of you threw a spark on some dry brush and

445
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,399
Speaker 8: it's turned into this great blaze. And I'd be a

446
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 8: liar if I told people, listen, broadcasting doesn't pay as

447
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Speaker 8: much as fighting.

448
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 9: But god dang, it sure feels good to still be

449
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Speaker 9: in the mix and not have to get hit. I mean,

450
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,959
Speaker 9: I love to fight, studying fights.

451
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Speaker 8: I'm a nerd at heart, I'm a fan first, and

452
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 8: I just if I just never in a million years, guys,

453
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Speaker 8: would I ever imagined like this would be my life,

454
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Speaker 8: Like I always thought that, like if I didn't win

455
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Speaker 8: a world title, like I'd feel like this was all

456
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 8: for nothing and this was a failure, but like and

457
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 8: is the way that things have panned out. I want

458
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 8: it fighting, and it's that goes beyond the wins and

459
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Speaker 8: the losses. I like I won in terms of like

460
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 8: I made this a career. I made a life out

461
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Speaker 8: of this, and there's there's so much that goes into it.

462
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Speaker 8: I've seen guys, I've seen this sport show up people

463
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Speaker 8: and spit them out, and I've seen people do all

464
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Speaker 8: the right things and not make it. I've seen people

465
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Speaker 8: do all the wrong things and get to the top,

466
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Speaker 8: you know. And it doesn't matter if I don't have

467
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Speaker 8: that gold belt h sitting on my mantle, I'd probably

468
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Speaker 8: be sitting under my bed with my tough trophy anyways,

469
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Speaker 8: you know.

470
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Speaker 9: But that will always be my best achievement. And I

471
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Speaker 9: think I I think that even if.

472
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Speaker 8: I did win a world championship, I don't think it

473
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Speaker 8: would I don't think it would mean as much to

474
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Speaker 8: me as that glass trophy and what went into that process.

475
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Speaker 8: And yeah, and I want it fighting no matter what.

476
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Speaker 8: So I'm playing with house money. And if I went forward,

477
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 8: fight to the row and it ends quick.

478
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I can't.

479
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 8: Deflect from that thought, you know, like, uh, it would

480
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 8: have to be a big fight. And I'm not even

481
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 8: gonna say, of course guy's name, because every time I do,

482
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 8: whatever it was said in the interview just gets washed

483
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 8: away because they're like, oh, yes, has something to say

484
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 8: about Hobby Hummington.

485
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Speaker 9: You know what I mean. It would take a big

486
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Speaker 9: fight for me to come back. You throw me at

487
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Speaker 9: the White House with him, like I would. I would

488
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Speaker 9: do one I would do a one off.

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Speaker 5: But well, I can't wait to watch on March twenty eighth.

490
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Speaker 5: I'm certainly proud of you, and I know how much

491
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Speaker 5: confidence you have when you're sitting on that set in

492
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Speaker 5: some part because you've seen all these fights.

493
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 6: But when I'm watching you in that.

494
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Speaker 5: Seahawks jersey and Robert Whitaker's on the set and they

495
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Speaker 5: throw it to you for your opening comments, I'm in Sydney,

496
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 5: and yeah, the jersey's a little fucking distracting.

497
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Speaker 6: But I'm so proud because you just take the baton.

498
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 5: And you just own it in almost a chail sun

499
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 5: and like way that nobody's gonna stop you, and you're

500
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 5: just ready to go.

501
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Speaker 6: And I can't wait to see you shine.

502
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Speaker 5: We'll be watching you against Carl Harris and uh yeah,

503
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 5: you can populate long ago real quick, and we'll go

504
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 5: forwide and then we'll let Michael Kisa be on his

505
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 5: merry way.

506
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 3: Now in my day is mat Did I ever tell

507
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 3: you guys the story? I was having a bad day

508
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 3: and I who comes through the door at the gym,

509
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 3: This guy Michael Kasa, and I brightens up my day.

510
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 3: This guy win lose. You know, he did choke al

511
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 3: out in the finale, but he's been a friend before

512
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: during after. He's just a good fucking guy. Man.

513
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Speaker 11: I don't know.

514
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 3: I am so happy to see you doing great, even

515
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 3: on the microphone. This is it's phenomenon. You're right, you

516
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 3: want it, you want to fight it, you want it life, man,

517
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 3: because you know you would do this ship for free

518
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 3: and you get paid for it. And that was always

519
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 3: my success to My recipe for success is just do

520
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 3: what you like and figure out how to get paid

521
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: for it. And you fucking did it, man, So you're

522
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: you're a winner. You know. Always happy to see this

523
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: guy and I'm so glid you're doing good on the

524
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 3: microphone too, But uh, I mean everything was good except

525
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 3: for the fact that you were listening to Show and

526
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 3: Shelby about something that.

527
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 9: That's right.

528
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 3: Was told go out like that the what do you

529
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 3: do with? Yes, you would picture a no hit.

530
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 9: This about Ray.

531
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Speaker 8: Guys, listen, having to fight Al in the finale was

532
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 8: scary enough because if you knew it went on the

533
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 8: training room between me and that guy.

534
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Speaker 9: I mean it was a one sided counting and I

535
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 9: was swinging the hammer.

536
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Speaker 11: Uh.

537
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Speaker 8: But when you have to fight a guy that's kicked

538
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 8: your ass for three months and then you got the

539
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 8: power corner, you got the head coach, the guy that

540
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 8: took down George Saint Pierre and then the.

541
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Speaker 9: Guy that went on to take out Anderson Sylvia.

542
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Speaker 8: You got Ray long ago, and then you got the

543
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 8: guy to beat George Saint Pierre.

544
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Speaker 9: And you gotta fight those two Quarterman and Ali Quinta.

545
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Speaker 8: I mean, come on, first, got if there was a

546
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Speaker 8: Hall of Famer for mm A coaches raised the top

547
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Speaker 8: of the list the guy.

548
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what fighting's about, though, because honestly, like again,

549
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 3: not win to lose. This guy is a good dude

550
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: and it doesn't matter like he could be every one

551
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 3: of my guys. I still love him. It has nothing

552
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: to do. It's just the way you handle yourself as

553
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 3: a human being. And this guy is really just like again,

554
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 3: I really meant that, Mike, when you walked into the

555
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: gym that they had, I had no idea you were

556
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: even on Long Island. And you know, we got to

557
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 3: talk about your dad and a couple of things. And

558
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: this what a story, what a freak that's a movie story.

559
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of feel good stuff. I mean it's

560
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 6: getting a little bit. We love your buddy.

561
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Speaker 10: Hey, the next chapter starts after March twenty eight, because

562
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 10: the next goal is, uh, sit next to you with

563
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 10: on the sticks calling some fights, and I think in

564
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 10: due time, I think I'll get my shot.

565
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 6: I think on eventuality. Have a great day, in a

566
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 6: better evening. Thank you, buddy.

567
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 5: Mira's on the Hawks. Michael Kissa with us live on

568
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 5: the Attic and Floran Podcast. We'll keep Ray as the

569
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 5: Ray Longo Mennic contin use live anecamploring podcast in our

570
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 5: new slot an hour later Mondays at noon Eastern.

571
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Speaker 6: What's up right?

572
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 3: No, that guy is just a good dude. Man.

573
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 6: He really all right, I mean all right, yes.

574
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 3: He's I mean, I really mean it that's why I said,

575
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Speaker 3: I'm always happy to see him. I don't know, Yeah,

576
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 3: not as not as good as Kenny and you John.

577
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 6: No better, much better guy.

578
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: Good good. It's just a good, good guy with a

579
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 3: great backstory. Wow, really emotional.

580
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Speaker 6: It's amazing.

581
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 5: And the pursuit of analyst work in mm A by

582
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 5: these fighters is fierce and competitive, and all of them

583
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 5: want to do it, and everybody knows that. I think

584
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 5: Kenny is U is the best, and that's why I

585
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 5: pay him to do my podcast everyboday. No, it's but yeah,

586
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 5: it's Michael's worked really hard to put himself in position

587
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 5: to get some of that work, and he's on the customer.

588
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 6: But so, Ray, how are you? How the fuck are.

589
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: You really good? I look, I'll be happy if the

590
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: wife I stays on today. I'm looking at yeah right, Well,

591
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 3: I don't I don't set a high ball for the day.

592
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 6: Are you on a laptop right now?

593
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: Yes?

594
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 5: Okay, so we are willing to buy you a new

595
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 5: laptop if that is ever the issue.

596
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 6: So let's just start there.

597
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I don't know. You know what John, you're

598
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: You're in Connecticut, dude, it was two degrees out. I

599
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 3: had to have something to do. The trucks were always outside,

600
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: so it's a heat wave. It's like thirty nine to

601
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: forty degrees.

602
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 6: It's yeah, it's amazing.

603
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 3: Love it, Love it, Kenny Love forty degrees. It's like

604
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 3: no coat day.

605
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 5: So I do want to sort of get back to

606
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 5: some of the white House stuff as it relates to

607
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 5: the undisputed UFC Championship title picture. But we do have

608
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 5: an Anakin floor in podcast chat, and there's several different

609
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 5: fucking chats with three people and four people, right, But

610
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 5: you know, somehow was brought up Max Crosby of the

611
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 5: Las Vegas Raiders and Jalen Brown of the Boston Celtics,

612
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 5: both to whatever degree, have suggested that they would like

613
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 5: to maybe fight in the UFC at one point in

614
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 5: time or compete in combat sports. And you know, this

615
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 5: lands a certain way with Ken Flow, I think and

616
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 5: other people because well just because it does because they've

617
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 5: done it and they've been there and they know what

618
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 5: it takes, and just because even Jalen Brown comes from

619
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 5: a combat sports family and has boxed, or it's just

620
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 5: a different thing getting in the UFC.

621
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Speaker 6: When someone's executing.

622
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Speaker 5: A calf slicer on you, you know, or knocking you unconscious.

623
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Speaker 5: So I don't know Ray if that crossed your wake,

624
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 5: but I wanted to get your thoughts on that, gentleman,

625
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Speaker 5: if I could.

626
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: But the thoughts on those guys fighting or fighting at

627
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Speaker 3: the White.

628
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Speaker 6: House, not fighting at the White House, well right.

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Speaker 3: I thought that's what you were saying. That would have

630
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Speaker 3: been would have been the first thing off the table.

631
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Speaker 6: Is that dare no no, no no.

632
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Speaker 3: I could see them as a pre lim opening prelim

633
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Speaker 3: first of the night, first fight of the night, as

634
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Speaker 3: they don't, you know, as long as they don't say

635
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: it and just let them do it the normal way

636
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 3: like everybody else has to do it, you know, once

637
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: you start, you know, putting the guys like the third

638
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 3: fight from the title fight, then I think, yeah, I

639
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to see that.

640
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 5: Well, Kenny, even James Tony versus Randy Cotur back in

641
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 5: the day made people feel some kind of way, and

642
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 5: James Tony was a world championship level boxer. But maybe

643
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 5: the placement on that car whatever it was. So I

644
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 5: guess I just feel like mixed martial arts is nothing

645
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 5: to mess with, you know what I mean? And like

646
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Speaker 5: when I joke about fighting my twin brother. Right, we

647
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 5: would find the smallest promotion on planning or just get

648
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Speaker 5: that out of our system.

649
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 6: Right.

650
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 5: So, I think part of it, Kenny, is just that

651
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 5: people want to get this out of their system. It's

652
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 5: not that they want to necessarily fight in the UFC.

653
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 5: But when you're on that level, you know, where else

654
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 5: are you going to fight?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean I would say, yeah, you want to

656
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Speaker 4: do a mixed martial arts fight, go ahead and get

657
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Speaker 4: on some mixed martial arts card. I don't think it

658
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Speaker 4: should be in the UFC. I think we're way past that.

659
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Speaker 4: The UFC doesn't need those guys. I also think it

660
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 4: makes the UFC look bad. It's like, hey, I have this.

661
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 4: You know, I played college soccer. John, I'd love to

662
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 4: get a spot on the US national team in the

663
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 4: World Cup. You know, let me just talk to this

664
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 4: guy who I'm friendly with and see if he could

665
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 4: put me in the game for at least five minutes,

666
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 4: so people will cheer my name, and you know, I

667
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 4: get tooled on and then I you know, wave goodbye

668
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 4: to everybody. It's just it's kind of silly. This is

669
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 4: a very complex sport, and I think that you know,

670
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 4: Candily Max Crosby has a much better chance than say

671
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 4: Jalen Brown, because you know, and I know Jalen Brown

672
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: maybe has that background with boxing and stuff. But you know,

673
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 4: I know Crosby's been around the sport for a long time.

674
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 4: I know he trains. He's in a very tough sport

675
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 4: right in the NFL. Jalen Brown not so much, you know,

676
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 4: in the NBA. But I don't know. It's a very

677
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 4: complicated thing. It's kind kind of like me saying, hey,

678
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 4: I did really good in addition and subtraction. I'd love

679
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 4: to get into quantum physics. You know, it seems very interesting.

680
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: Let me just jump right in there. You know, there

681
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 4: is so much going on with the UFC, and I

682
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 4: don't think someone deserves that spot, regardless of their name,

683
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 4: just to go in there. It's not ten, fifteen, twenty

684
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 4: years ago where the UFC may need that big name.

685
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 4: I think it makes them look bad because it takes

686
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: years and years to be good at this sport. And

687
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 4: I also think every dude out there sitting on a couch,

688
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: that's say ninety nine percent of them think they can

689
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 4: take a punch when they have no idea what a

690
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 4: punch of the face actually means or let alone a

691
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 4: light kick. So that's that's my ramp.

692
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't take a punch, go ahead, Ray.

693
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean, look, Kenny's one billion percent right

694
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: with everything. Unfortunately, the UFC doesn't give a shit if

695
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: they do something that's not on board what everybody else thinks.

696
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: They've done it one hundred times so far. What was

697
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: the who's the guy that beats the and Punky beats

698
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: C and Punk And they got rid of them for

699
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: actually winning because they were so upset, I believe.

700
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: I don't think they got to Mickey goall.

701
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: No, it was they brought in that last guy.

702
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 6: Was it that photographer Mike Jackson?

703
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's the guy, you know. But they figured

704
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: they could get a win, I guess, and that.

705
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 5: Jake Shields just beat up Mike Jackson and Jim for

706
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 5: his life. Jake Shields will go watch Jake Shields versus

707
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 5: Damian Maya if you think you can compete in m

708
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 5: m A.

709
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 6: You know, honestly, just go watch that. That looks fun

710
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 6: for you.

711
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 5: Twenty five minutes and Baru Edi or wherever the fuck.

712
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 6: We were, right, Yeah, and people.

713
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: Confuse you know athleticism for technical ability. You know, it's like, oh,

714
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 4: I'm this great athlete, let me go into golf. I

715
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 4: mean it takes It's completely different. Like, yes, athleticism is

716
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 4: an important element in mixed martials for sure, but you

717
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: can't ignore all of the technique that is required to

718
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: even be remotely successful, let alone the whole toughness aspect

719
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 4: of it, like actual fight toughness.

720
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, I own a gym, so I

721
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: hear every possible story from every possible person, So we

722
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: could go on and on. I got I can't even

723
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: tell you. I want to film a couple of guys.

724
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: And then I said, you.

725
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 6: Know what, just.

726
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: I might be uh taking advantage of their autism or

727
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: whatever the hell they got craziness, And I didn't even

728
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 3: want to do it. I said, you know, I'll be

729
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: viewed as like a prick. But I got to sit

730
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: there and listen to a guy tell me he's faster

731
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: than Roy Jones because he could dislocate his shoulder, his

732
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 3: elbow and his wrist at the sort time, which gives him.

733
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: And I'm sitting there like this can't be happening, Ray,

734
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: this is every this could be every week. So uh, look,

735
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 3: the UFC is there to put eyeballs on the sport,

736
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: and whether they need it or not, if they felt

737
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: like they could getting up a hand by doing that,

738
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: they're putting that fight on.

739
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 5: Well a little context Yeah, the NFL is a more

740
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 5: concussive space than the UFC, depending on what position you play,

741
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,479
Speaker 5: the miles per hour you can get your body going, etc.

742
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 5: Max Crosby as a defensive lineman not necessarily the position.

743
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 5: He's the one who gives out the concussions, right, So

744
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 5: it stands to reason that sparring regularly in a mixed

745
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 5: martial arts heavyweight career would be more concussive to Max Crosby.

746
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 5: You know, but this is contextualized because of what's going

747
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 5: on in the UFC's heavyweight division right now. And so

748
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 5: if we could go on polymarket and we probably can

749
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 5: and bet on Gable Steveson to be the UFC heavyweight

750
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 5: champion at some point in the next two years, right,

751
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 5: he's not even in the UFC. So I mean, ray,

752
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 5: do you have any heavyweights on the northeastern side of

753
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 5: the US, Because part of the reason why we're talking

754
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 5: about Max Crosby, if not Jalen Brown is because the

755
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 5: heavyweight division seems there for the taking right now.

756
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Gabriel Stevenson, I don't know how to get

757
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: him fights on the local scene. I would they're paying

758
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: somebody to jump in there because nobody's fighting that guy now.

759
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: People don't want to fight normal people at this point

760
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: in time. So I had of good luck with that.

761
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 3: But you know, I had the Islanders in the gym

762
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 3: for a summer and they're really just down to earth

763
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 3: out of all the athletes and the most down to

764
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: earth real people you meet. But Matt Martin, who was

765
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: I think he was like the hammer on the island.

766
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: I could have got him to take a fight at

767
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: the end of the summer, no, no question about it.

768
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: I Mean, he trained, he loves the combat. He all

769
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 3: those guys love the sport, and uh, you know they're

770
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 3: down you know, So it's it's you know, they definitely

771
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 3: have the mentality and with the proper training, that's that's

772
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: that's all you need.

773
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, Cody just put something in the chat about Gable

774
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 5: Steveson hoping that his UFC debut potentially could come on

775
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 5: the White House card. I man, that would be certainly

776
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 5: a headline. But Ari Emanuel, I think went on the

777
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 5: Pat McFee show we talked about suggested this could be

778
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 5: six or seven fights in totality.

779
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 6: So I'm not sure they have room for any debuts.

780
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 6: But you never know, you never know. Ray So.

781
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 5: In terms of there was a report out there that

782
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 5: Joshua Van was gonna fight tatsu Ro Tyra in defense

783
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 5: of the flyweight championship maybe at the numbered event in April, right,

784
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 5: and then you figure there will be a numbered event

785
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 5: in May, and then June fourteenth is the White House, Right,

786
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 5: The next numbered event does not have any undisputed titles, right,

787
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 5: it's Max Holloway and Charles Olivera for a BMF bel right,

788
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 5: So it's all there. It's wide open. Can you imagine

789
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 5: what these conversations, right, Kenny smile. Kenny's in a good

790
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 5: mood today. He's probably probably in that meant is thinking

791
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 5: like every day, just live it to the fullest.

792
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: That's you know. The more I see him smile, I

793
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: keep looking at my phone to see where bitcoin is.

794
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 4: It's not.

795
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: Something something something.

796
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 4: Back on coffee. I think that's what it is.

797
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: Cat that swallowed the canary. Look, I don't know what

798
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 3: he's doing.

799
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 5: So.

800
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 6: But anyway, it's all right there. Just you know, it's

801
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 6: all right there.

802
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 4: Ray.

803
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not asking you, like for your dream

804
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 5: matchup right, But Tom Aspinall is not going to be

805
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 5: fighting on the White House card. You have a heavyweight

806
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 5: championship that I guess can't be contested unless it's vacated.

807
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 5: You have a light heavyweight champion Alex Paedata that would

808
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 5: seem ready to go, Hamzacchimi. If your middlewaight champion would

809
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 5: seem ready to go, Islam Maka Chev, you have to

810
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 5: walk to a champion would seem ready to go on

811
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 5: that date. Iliatoporti is the unsputed lightweight champion. He would

812
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 5: seem ready to go. Volk would be ready to go

813
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 5: should I go on? Yon cannot go, pyotr Jan just

814
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 5: had back surgery, right, But all these champions are ready

815
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 5: to go, No except Tom.

816
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: Wait, first off, how how long is John out for?

817
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 5: I think June fourteenth is four months away. He had

818
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 5: an invasive back surge.

819
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: For yeah, heels up.

820
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's gonna be your guy. But yeah, oh

821
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 5: yeah that might. I mean, we'll see. We got to

822
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 5: get long go to the White House, right, I mean,

823
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 5: did your White House ticket just go out out the door?

824
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 6: Live with that News Update podcast? I don't know, it's funny.

825
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 5: I have a few other things with the great Ray Longo.

826
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 5: How is your weekend? By the way, the long weekend?

827
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 5: You're going to the gym? I guess Monday's Monday?

828
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 3: Huh man, Monday's Monday. Same as got some spa and

829
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: I'll probably miss because of the podcast. But it's all good. Wow,

830
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: look at what look at all? Right?

831
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 6: No, I'm not.

832
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 5: I'm not doing this for content or comedy, but we

833
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 5: get the opportunity of when the show would be and

834
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 5: now it seems like every other week we're causing friction

835
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 5: when it.

836
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 6: Comes to yours.

837
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: Although originally, originally it was twelve thirty No, is that correct?

838
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 6: What what time is sparring?

839
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 5: Ray?

840
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: Well? Wait listen, wait a minute, this is I've shifted

841
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 3: according to the podcast. That's a Originally the podcast is

842
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: twelve thirty No, right, so so what the fuck are

843
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: we doing here at twelve fifteen? Then?

844
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 5: Well, the podcast started at twelve, So sometimes we'd like

845
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 5: to have some maneuverability when it comes to your time

846
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 5: slot because of fighters and guests and things like that.

847
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 5: So do you want to be twelve thirty to twelve

848
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 5: fifty every week? Is that what you're looking for?

849
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: Twee is good?

850
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 5: All right, okay, all right, I'll try not to move

851
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 5: him in the future because everybody in the back, I mean,

852
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 5: my goodness, I mean, should the carpet be red?

853
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 6: Or do you want to fucking car?

854
00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 9: Oh no, I'm not that guy.

855
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 6: I'm just okay, don't know what I'm doing.

856
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: I was gonna do a podcasts from the gym today.

857
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 3: I had everything set up and then I switched it over.

858
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: I don't know whatever.

859
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, we'll we'll make it.

860
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 5: Well, we'll talk to you next week at twelve thirty.

861
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 5: I'd like about eight more minutes of your time today.

862
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 5: Let's go so drinks DUPLESSI former on distributed you have

863
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 5: seen been away champion has come out and praised Israelat

864
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 5: of Sonia for taking the Joe Pifer fight. And I

865
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 5: know you like goodwill and feel good stories right as

866
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 5: evidence by you know, your Kiessa makeout session not all

867
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 5: that long ago. So but I really think that this

868
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 5: is a rightful thing for the former champion to say.

869
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 6: And if you.

870
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 5: Don't have high level stars like Izzy give opportunities to

871
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 5: guys like Joe Pifer on the come up, it becomes

872
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 5: very hard to promote and build stars. And I do

873
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 5: think that Izzy deserves a lot of credit for for

874
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 5: taking this fight when you know he could maybe have

875
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 5: held out for you know, a former champer, a top

876
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 5: one or two guy.

877
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you look, you have to applaud the guy. He's

878
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 3: given a young guy on the come up a nice opportunity.

879
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: But you know, look, he's got nothing to prove. He's

880
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: gonna go down as one of the best champions ever.

881
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: And you know, some guys they want to give back.

882
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: And if this is his way in his head of

883
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 3: doing it, fine, you know, I think that's a I

884
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: agree with Dricis. I think it's a big deal that

885
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: he's doing it because a lot of guys wouldn't do it.

886
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 4: I agree it's a really risky fight for that reason,

887
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 4: a lot of fighters, a lot of champions, former champions,

888
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 4: would not take that fight. But I agree with you John,

889
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 4: that's exactly how you build new stars in the sport.

890
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 4: And perhaps is he is taking this fight as a

891
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 4: competitor and saying, hey, you know what, this is disrespectful.

892
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: This guy does not deserve to be in there with me.

893
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go make an example of this guy and

894
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 4: I'm gonna kick his ass, you know or whatever. But

895
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 4: you know, we know Piper is extremely dangerous. This is

896
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 4: a huge fight for him. I think we have two

897
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 4: very good and dangerous strikers going at it. And curious

898
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 4: to see if Autosanya brings anything new to the table

899
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 4: in regards to his approach, to his training, any new techniques.

900
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 4: We all know him as a martial artist and would

901
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 4: love to see something new from him. But yeah, this

902
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 4: is a very risky fight, make no mistake about that.

903
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, but not give back on his side, right, I mean,

904
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 5: he really thinks he has another run in him, and yeah,

905
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 5: they're all dangerous. All these fights are dangerous when we

906
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 5: get to the main event challenge later, right, Jeff Neil

907
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 5: trying to preserve his ranking against Udo Schmititch. I mean,

908
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 5: you could say Metich is number fifty in the world.

909
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 5: But all these guys are tough for the most part

910
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 5: in the UFC, especially dependent upon division. So there's a

911
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 5: fight that got announced for London and Daniel Cormier and

912
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 5: others have sounded off on this. Michael Venim Page is

913
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 5: fighting a guy he has trained with fairly extensively in

914
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 5: Sam Patterson, and you know, I think very highly of Sam.

915
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 6: I really think Sam can be a rank fighter.

916
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 5: But I just feel like Michael Venom Page has so

917
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 5: much to offer. And we've heard Joe Rogan and others

918
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 5: talk superlatively about MVP, but you know, he fought Jared

919
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 5: cannoneer at middleweight, beat the guy, and this just seems

920
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 5: like the opposite of what you would do on the

921
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 5: heels of that win from a matchmaking standpoint, never mind

922
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 5: the familiarity. So, Kenny, I know that this one sort

923
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 5: of crossed your wake a little bit. What are your

924
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 5: thoughts on the matchmaking in terms of MVP, who you know,

925
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 5: feels like he's in contendership yet not.

926
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 4: It's a bit of a head scratcher. I think that

927
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 4: MVP has been around this sport for a very very

928
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 4: long time now. Granted he hasn't been in the UFC

929
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 4: that long, and I don't know, and he has mentioned

930
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 4: something that perhaps he's you know, ticked off the UFC somehow,

931
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 4: but then this would maybe be further evidence of that.

932
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 4: You know, I think the UFC is either trying to

933
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 4: build you up or get you to be a stepping

934
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 4: stone for someone else. And perhaps also that they see

935
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 4: that Sam Patterson could be that next star. Who knows,

936
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 4: But I think MVP is an exciting fighter to watch.

937
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 4: I think that, yeah, he's had, you know, maybe not

938
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 4: some great performances sometimes, but I do think he's awesome

939
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 4: to watch and I think a lot of people want

940
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 4: to see him fight. So I don't really understand this

941
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 4: matchup so much. And this is another one that I

942
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: think is risky for him given everything that he's accomplished

943
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 4: in mixed martial arts. And I don't know, or maybe

944
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 4: they see Sam Patterson as that next new.

945
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: Star, yeah i'd be. I don't know what they're thinking

946
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: with that fight. I don't I don't. Page is just tricky.

947
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 3: He's a hot out, you know, because his style is

948
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: just you know, one in a million basically. But I

949
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 3: don't think the UFC wants to see him as a champion,

950
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I think they're going

951
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: to use him in ways that you know, benefit them,

952
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: and that's probably what they're doing here because I think

953
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: it's a bad fight for Pattison, to be honest with you,

954
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 3: you know, but maybe they know, you know, from training

955
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 3: together what the real deal is. But page is he's

956
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: just so tricky and I don't know, not like again

957
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 3: you know what's I'm fascinated. He's technical with some of

958
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 3: the things, but not the type of fight I'd like

959
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: to see all the time because he could slow it

960
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 3: down and you know in ways that nobody else can.

961
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 3: He blitzes you, then he's on the outside. You know,

962
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 3: it's it's very quick. You know, it's like, uh, it

963
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 3: is like point fighting back in the day. So I

964
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: don't know if that's what they want. You know, they

965
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 3: want those back and forth battles. Uh, And you're not

966
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: going to get that with paiges too quick and he

967
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 3: knows how to slow it down by clinching after he

968
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: blitzes you. And yeah, it's crazy.

969
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 5: I know he has championship aspirations. Right, you beat Shara Bullet,

970
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 5: you're competitive with Iaan Mashadeo Gary who is probably gonna

971
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 5: fight for the world title. Then you beat Shara Bullet

972
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 5: and Jared Cannoneer at eighty five?

973
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 6: Right, what many doing you fight?

974
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 5: You know the mjar gall to men Den Burrell or

975
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 5: what you know. It's just I don't anyway. I do

976
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 5: think it's interesting. I think both guys have paths to victory,

977
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 5: but uh yeah, it just seems like I don't know

978
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 5: what fan excitement level is for Michael Ven and Page.

979
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 5: You know, maybe I'm sort of overstating, but imagine if

980
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 5: he was fighting Jeff Neil and Houston the co main

981
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 5: event this weekend, about that, that would make more sense.

982
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 3: You know, Kenny, I think Page. I think he's the

983
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 3: type of guy that if you're give any organizations some

984
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 3: trouble with fights, that's who you get. You get Paige,

985
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: because right he's not He's just gonna be a crappy

986
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: fight for for a lot of people. Yeah what I mean,

987
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 3: So I think they're using him in a different way.

988
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: I don't think they have any aspirations of building that

989
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 3: guy up to be a champion at all. So yeah,

990
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: look they it's content at the end of the day,

991
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 3: it's another fight, that's about it. I think I wouldn't

992
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: even look past that.

993
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 5: All right, Ray, longo before we let you go, And

994
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 5: by the way, we are absolutely willing to build a

995
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 5: studio for you at the gym to try to make

996
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 5: this all easier for you. As the most diva talent

997
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 5: on the show, so we can take that conversation offline.

998
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 6: Ray, would you rather go ahead?

999
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. We have a beautiful room we're

1000
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: going to make into a podcast studio at the JEM

1001
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 3: all right, Yeah, got some more space, So we're doing it.

1002
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 5: Let go and the next thing you know, he'll give

1003
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 5: his two week notice to launch the Ray Longo Show,

1004
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 5: which is hard. So I looked up some would you

1005
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 5: rather for old men today? Not that we consider you

1006
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 5: an old man?

1007
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: Wow? Are you kidding you? Starting out like that?

1008
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 5: Would rather have a lifetime supply of Werther's originals or

1009
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 5: unlimited Bingo cards?

1010
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: What? What's? What's the first originals?

1011
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 4: You know? Those those caramel candies, those hard candies every

1012
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 4: grandmother has.

1013
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take those.

1014
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 6: Imagine having unlimited Bingo cards though, I mean what?

1015
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 12: No?

1016
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 6: All right?

1017
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 5: Would you rather forget where you pout your car or

1018
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 5: forget the punchline to your favorite joke?

1019
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 3: Forget the punchline to a favorite joke?

1020
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 6: I don't even know what this one means.

1021
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 5: Would you rather drink soup out of a farmer's welly

1022
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 5: or from a binman's sock?

1023
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 6: I don't know what that means.

1024
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 3: Wow, I love college education. I don't even know what that?

1025
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: What was it? What was it? Again?

1026
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 5: Would you rather drink soup out of a farmer's welly

1027
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 5: or from a binman's sock? A binman is a trash guy,

1028
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 5: Cody says, And.

1029
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 6: Finally, Ray, I'm frozen.

1030
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 5: And finally, Ray, would you rather eat a wet loaf

1031
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 5: of bread or drink a pint of whipped fish?

1032
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 3: Oh? I'll drink a wet loaf of bread.

1033
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, we love you, buddy. I know you're not really

1034
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 6: a diva, just sometimes you know what.

1035
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 3: I'm a team player. I just need I need the

1036
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 3: guidelines to stay consistent. I don't know. Okay, Well, we

1037
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 3: all have lives. Do we have schedules? We have to? Yeah,

1038
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 3: sometimes people that count on you.

1039
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 5: All right here two four will give you thirty minutes

1040
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 5: twelve thirty one?

1041
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: Do it?

1042
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 5: Sean Strickland, Anthony Fluffy Hernandez are fighting this weekend.

1043
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 6: Who do you like?

1044
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 3: Great fight? Who's who's Who's favorite in that fight?

1045
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 5: Who do you think is favorite in that fight? Anthony

1046
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 5: Fluffy Hernandez hasn't lost since COVID.

1047
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 6: So he is about Wow.

1048
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if that's an easy fight for him.

1049
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 6: Oh, I'm not suggesting that at all.

1050
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 3: Well, three to one is a big gun number.

1051
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 6: Yeah it is. It's climbing on DraftKings sportsbook. Buddy.

1052
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go with her in the hand, just on

1053
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 3: that one.

1054
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 6: All right, my man, much love.

1055
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 5: We will uh, we'll reconvene same time a little bit

1056
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 5: later next week, all right, buddy. Everybody Loves Raymond was

1057
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 5: the name of a situational comedy in the US for

1058
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 5: a while. Everybody Loves Raymond. You want to be loved, Kenny,

1059
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 5: you want to be loved. This guy has loved Our

1060
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 5: next guest, founder of three Punch Convo. I've heard a

1061
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 5: lot about this gentleman. His name is Russ Mkowski, and

1062
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 5: Russ now joined us live on the Anaky Florian podcast.

1063
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 6: What's up, Russ?

1064
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 9: How are you guys?

1065
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 4: Nice to see you.

1066
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 6: We're doing better now, buddy? Is that?

1067
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 5: Uh?

1068
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's easy?

1069
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: Behind it is easy, my Well, She's say, second favorite

1070
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: UFC event I've ever been at was in Miami when

1071
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: is he knocked out for AIRA? So I kind of

1072
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: have that memorial.

1073
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 6: At So where are you coming to us from in

1074
00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 6: the world? Right now?

1075
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: Russ I am in Marlborough, New Jersey. I'm not trying

1076
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: to dos myself here, but.

1077
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 6: Central central New Jersey.

1078
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: I know Kenny's a little sensitive about the location.

1079
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, our avid listeners certainly know that, right. We

1080
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 5: don't want to ask Kenny just how bolted the gate

1081
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 5: is in his community and then actually at his residence

1082
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 5: inside of the gated community that I think.

1083
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 6: There's head coach used to live at.

1084
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 5: Anyway, Ponzo is a very cool platform, and congratulations on

1085
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 5: getting it to this point. It's a community driven platform

1086
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 5: built for MMA and UFC fans like everybody in this

1087
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 5: room and certainly in this podcast.

1088
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 6: Realm, So what can you tell us about it? How

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Speaker 6: long has it been around and what's the ultimate goal?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, thanks for that lead in, John. So, Three Punch Convo,

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Speaker 1: as you said, is an online platform where real MMA

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Speaker 1: fans can connect not only with each other, but also

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Speaker 1: with pro fighters and it's a very safe, moderated space.

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Speaker 1: We like to say trolls get triangled on three Punch Convo,

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Speaker 1: where fighters can work on building their brands while also

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Speaker 1: getting an opportunity to earn outside of the cage just

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Speaker 1: by joining the conversation with you. Know, people who want

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Speaker 1: to learn more about their training camps, their matchups, their

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Speaker 1: thoughts about the sport. And you know, my brother Andrew,

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Speaker 1: who is the co founder of three Punch Convo, and

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Speaker 1: myself have been hardcore MMA fans going back to jeez,

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Speaker 1: my first event was UFC five. I'm showing my age

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Speaker 1: over here, when if I remember correctly, Ken Shamrock basically

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Speaker 1: laid on hois Gracie for thirty five minutes and it

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Speaker 1: resulted in a boring conclusion, right. But you know, we've

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Speaker 1: been very involved in the kind of like message forum

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Speaker 1: community that fans have typically congregated in to discuss the sport,

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Speaker 1: and you know, as technologists by trade as well, thought

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Speaker 1: lot about how we could build something better because a

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00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: lot of the alternatives out there today for discussing the

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00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: sport are either like flooded with advertising, super toxic if

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00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Instagram comments reddits UI just like

1114
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Speaker 1: really isn't it for these types of conversations, So we

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00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: thought about building something better for us first as users.

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Speaker 1: This is truly built by MMA fans for MMA fans,

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Speaker 1: and then also just taking into account the unique journey

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Speaker 1: that the up and coming MMA athlete finds him or

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Speaker 1: herself on you know where the ten and ten life

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Speaker 1: isn't easy as you're starting to move up the ladder, right,

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Speaker 1: And if there's a way that we can help give

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Speaker 1: back to those fighters as they climb towards the rankings

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Speaker 1: and earning more money by giving them a chance to

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Speaker 1: share in the subscription revenue that three Punch Convo generates

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Speaker 1: by offering an awesome platform to fans, then we're just

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Speaker 1: kind of being very additive to the whole ecosystem. It's

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Speaker 1: something we feel really good about.

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Speaker 4: And Russ obviously you know, full disclosure, I'm an advisor

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Speaker 4: on three Punch Combo and you know, one of the

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00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 4: things that I that I found most interesting and why

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Speaker 4: I got involved with with three PC Russ, was the

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Speaker 4: fact that you wanted to give back to fighters and

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Speaker 4: you guys are doing this thing called fighters Insurance. Can

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Speaker 4: you can you talk about that and explain that to people?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so robber insurance is what we're technically calling.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, right, Yes, I'm sure all.

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Speaker 1: Of us have seen a number of decisions over the

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Speaker 1: years that maybe we didn't agree with, right, and it's

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Speaker 1: like one of the age old you know, there's the

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Speaker 1: conversation about who the goat is, and then there's a

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Speaker 1: conversation about was this a robbery? And we have some

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Speaker 1: great tools available today on sites like Verdict that I

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Speaker 1: think are very beneficial for helping people understand, you know,

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Speaker 1: what the aggregate viewership feels about a particular decision. But

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00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: in cases where we think someone might have lost their

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00:54:55,160 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: win bonus undeservedly, what three PC is doing is actually

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00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: posting a poll within our forums, and our users have

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to vote on that particular outcome. And if

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Speaker 1: eighty percent of the users believe that a particular fight

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00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: ended in an egregiously incorrect decision, we deem it to

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Speaker 1: be a robbery. And provided that fighter is active on

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Speaker 1: three Punch Convo part of our community, We're going to

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Speaker 1: cut them a robbery insurance check to help offset the

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Speaker 1: negative financial impact of getting screwed by the judges.

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Speaker 6: Right, that is absolutely hilarious.

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Speaker 5: I mean, let's just name this whole company that Russ Right,

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00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 5: I mean heard that, like what a great idea. Like,

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Speaker 5: Imagine you're a fighter, you're part of three Punch Convo

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Speaker 5: and you get absolutely hosed.

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Speaker 6: And I guess what does the level of the robbery

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Speaker 6: have to be.

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Speaker 1: So I mean it's going to be something that probably

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Speaker 1: all of us on this call notice, as you know,

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Speaker 1: strange right, It's not going to be a split decision

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Speaker 1: that could have gone either way. I can think of

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Speaker 1: a couple of fights as examples. Maybe I shouldn't say

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Speaker 1: them here in public, but there, Surprisingly enough, there haven't

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Speaker 1: been a lot of those recently, so kudos to the

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Speaker 1: judges who I think are doing a lot better job. Yes, really,

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Speaker 1: we've been thinking about it. There there hasn't been a

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Speaker 1: crazy decision that I've seen of late. But anyways, like

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Speaker 1: if we deem it to be worth a vote, we're

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Speaker 1: going to make that poll on three PC and let

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Speaker 1: the fans decide, right, And today we're self funding the

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Speaker 1: amount that people are getting for that robbery insurance check.

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Speaker 1: But as three PC continues to grow, and you know,

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Speaker 1: we're really hitting a stage where that growth is happening

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Speaker 1: pretty quickly. At this point, we'll be seeking sponsorships from

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Speaker 1: advertisers and such that you might be putting more behind

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Speaker 1: the payout as well. And I'd imagine that down the

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Speaker 1: line is going to be really material. Not that what

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Speaker 1: they get today isn't, but it's only going to grow

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Speaker 1: with more support and time.

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Speaker 6: Right, who came up with the name three Punch Convo?

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Speaker 9: That was me?

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Speaker 5: Actually okay, yeah, I was thinking it was your brother, Andrew,

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Speaker 5: but it was you. So if fans want to get involved,

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Speaker 5: and we have your handle fonted here below you on

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Speaker 5: the lower third, if fans want to get involved, if

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Speaker 5: fighters want to get involved. I know Kenny and I

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Speaker 5: share the enthusiasm for sort of supporting the roster, and

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of fans would love to figure

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Speaker 5: out ways big and small to support some of these athletes.

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Speaker 6: So how can people get involved? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, So people can go to three Punchconvo dot com.

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Speaker 1: It's just the number three Punched Convo and sign up.

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Speaker 1: We have two different membership plans today, one of which

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Speaker 1: is completely free. Gives people the opportunity to jump in

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Speaker 1: and see what we're doing. You can also, by the way,

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Speaker 1: put your fight picks on the record on three Punch Convos.

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Speaker 1: So Andrew and I, over the years of you know,

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Speaker 1: bet on fights, we've talked about who we think might win,

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Speaker 1: but we never really knew if we were good at

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00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: it because we haven't had a way to track it.

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Speaker 1: So that's another thing that Three Punch Common offers all subscribers,

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Speaker 1: both free and paid. The paid subscription at four ninety

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Speaker 1: nine a month is what's helping to support the fighters

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Speaker 1: who are active on the platform. That gives people access

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Speaker 1: to all the content created by fighters, some of which

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Speaker 1: you're seeing on the screen here, as well as the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to earn fight cred, which is our unique system

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Speaker 1: for kind of putting a number behind how much someone

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Speaker 1: actually knows about MMA, and that's an algorithm that's going

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Speaker 1: to be getting sharper and sharper over time. Fighters who

1215
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Speaker 1: want to get involved can join people like Steve Garcia,

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Speaker 1: Chase Hooper, Vier An Agenda, Roba, Nazim Sadyakov I heard

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Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier in the show, John Niam, Jargo, Touman,

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Speaker 1: Denberol who's just recently joined, come on, I mean, and

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Speaker 1: then we have to like Thomas obviously, Kenny Alan Jobon,

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Speaker 1: who are industry experts, an analyst. We have VP in there,

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Speaker 1: we have Hayden Iverson in there. So really the whole

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Speaker 1: ecosystem is kind of being covered, from fighters to analysts

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Speaker 1: to handicappers, and you know, we'd love everyone to come

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Speaker 1: on in and you know, join the community. We think

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Speaker 1: it's really going to be very helpful for MMA as

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Speaker 1: a whole in terms of creating another option for people

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Speaker 1: to talk about the sport.

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Speaker 5: Before we let you go, Anthony Fluffy, Hernandez, Sean Strickland

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Speaker 5: under the lights this weekend. Longo thinks the betting line

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Speaker 5: is pretty wide.

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Speaker 6: Russ. What do you think about the main event coming

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Speaker 6: up Saturday in Houston?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I personally lean Fluffy. If I were

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Speaker 1: a betting man, I'd probably stay away, and my rationale

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Speaker 1: would just be kind of observed over time that you know,

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Speaker 1: when a fighter like Sean has been to the mountaintop

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Speaker 1: and seems to be making a little bit more of

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Speaker 1: a concerted effort to be a family man, recently married,

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Speaker 1: you wonder how much desire there's going to be to

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Speaker 1: get in there and like dog it out when the

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Speaker 1: going gets tough. Where I think Fluffy is kind of

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Speaker 1: still yet to get there, and it's a great stag

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Speaker 1: John into anyone who wants to put their picks on

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Speaker 1: the record. On three PC this week head on over,

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Speaker 1: we're running a ridiculous handicapping contest, actually the biggest one

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Speaker 1: we've ever had so you can go and select every

1247
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: single fight on three Punch Convo costs nothing. If you

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Speaker 1: pick the entire card correctly, we're giving you one thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars as a prize and there's no cap to the

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Speaker 1: number of people that are getting paid for sweeping that card.

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Speaker 1: So similar to going and making a parlay wager on

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Speaker 1: a sports but no stake required. And as a thank

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Speaker 1: you to the Anakin Florian community, really appreciate you guys

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Speaker 1: helping us to create some exposure for what we're doing here.

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Speaker 1: We do think it's good for the sport. Anyone listening

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01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: can try premium for free for three months with the

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Speaker 1: code afpod.

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Speaker 6: Wow. Thank you Russ.

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Speaker 5: If you're not watching and you're listening only go to

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Speaker 5: three punch Combo dot com. Why would you not make

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Speaker 5: your picks for Houston this weekend and if you win,

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Speaker 5: you're getting a thousand dollars in the code is afpod.

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Speaker 5: You're getting three months of access three punch Combo dot com.

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Speaker 5: Following that three Punch Convo, Russ Mkowski appreciate the time. Man,

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Speaker 5: congrats on everything that you've built and uh we look

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Speaker 5: forward to supporting along the way.

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Speaker 1: Man, appreciate you guys for the platform.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Thank you, Russ.

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Speaker 5: Three Punch Convos Russ Mkowski shows you what I know.

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Speaker 6: I didn't even know Ken Flow was a fucking advisor man.

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Speaker 5: That's interesting though. I mean, I'll go to three Punch

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Speaker 5: Convo dot No. I can't make picks. I can't make it.

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Speaker 5: Otherwise I would go to three Punchcombo dot com. So, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Cody's got some audio files. Yeah, remind me about the

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Speaker 5: Cuban problem later. Let me get to the main event challenge.

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Speaker 5: So Michael Kisa, who was with us earlier, right, he

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Speaker 5: was the impetus for that Jeff Gallo tweet at UFC

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Speaker 5: one seventy three which said, Michael Kisa looks like he's

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Speaker 5: been living on a bus in Alaska eating poisonous plants.

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Speaker 5: We get to this probably a few times a year

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Speaker 5: on the show.

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Speaker 4: It's so good. I can never not think about that

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Speaker 4: when I think about Thanks to.

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Speaker 5: You, well a long ago was early, right, and then

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Speaker 5: complained about his time slot. But had we had more

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Speaker 5: time with Michael Kiessa, I would have said to the

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Speaker 5: former lifelig But a lot of people don't realize. And

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Speaker 5: I was trying to fact check because Kis was supposed

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Speaker 5: to join us last week, and I had some notes

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Speaker 5: in my script about Kenny and Kissa. I believe Michael

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Speaker 5: Kiska and Kenny Florian both have seven rear naked choke

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Speaker 5: finishes in the UFC, so I am rooting for Guyana's

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Speaker 5: Carlston Harris. Actually I don't want Kissa to get a

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Speaker 5: rear naked choke because I don't want him to move

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Speaker 5: ahead of Kenny. I think maybe they're tied for seconds

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Speaker 5: or at all times. So maybe when Cody isn't working

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Speaker 5: the guests back stage, he can get me the list

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Speaker 5: of the most accomplished rear naked choke artists in UFC history.

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Speaker 5: All right, So I mentioned there was maybe a report,

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01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 5: and then it was on Reddit, and then it wasn't.

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Speaker 5: But Joshua Van has been jones in for a fight.

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Speaker 11: And.

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Speaker 6: Seemingly there would be two options.

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Speaker 5: Manel cop Or Tatsu wrote Tyra as alechanre Pantosia works

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Speaker 5: on the men. Damian Maya holds the record for the

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Speaker 5: most rear naked choke submissions in UFC history with nine,

1307
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Speaker 5: followed by Michael Kis and Kenny Florian with seven apiece.

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Speaker 6: So hopefully kis it doesn't get number eight.

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Speaker 5: All right, let us actually go right back to the

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Speaker 5: guest line right now, because with us not all that

1311
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 5: far removed from another huge win one of the best

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Speaker 5: band of weights in the world, a man who I

1313
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 5: suggested was top twenty pound for pound last week battle

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Speaker 5: Borne Mario Bautista Champ.

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Speaker 6: Good to see a man, How are you doing good?

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Speaker 11: Thanks for having me bro.

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Speaker 6: What a run it has been for you man.

1318
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Speaker 5: And you know, it's interesting to think back to some

1319
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 5: conversations we had even way before the Umar fight about

1320
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 5: maybe positioning yourself for a UFC main event, and then

1321
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 5: you get that experience and you do with it what

1322
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 5: you did against Venisius ol of Era. So what was

1323
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,959
Speaker 5: it sort of like, I know you're an even keel guy.

1324
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 5: I know you've been on a lot of big cards,

1325
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 5: but what was it like sort of being the last

1326
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 5: man to make the walk and the man that everybody

1327
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 5: wanted a piece of during that headlining week for you.

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Speaker 11: No, it was definitely a change up from what I'm

1329
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 11: used to, you know, fighting on the undercards, this and that,

1330
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 11: big names, but to have it be surrounded around me

1331
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 11: and built around me, man, that's like what I dreamed

1332
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 11: of growing up and everything, so just to envision that,

1333
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 11: you know, coming up and then to come true and

1334
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 11: then get a finish and just man, it just couldn't

1335
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 11: have gone any better. So I was super happy with it.

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Speaker 4: And what was your perspective on this matchup? Because you know,

1337
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 4: obviously you had faced a lot tougher matchups, Olive Air

1338
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 4: is still a guy that was kind of a lot

1339
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 4: of hype around him, but him still coming up, did

1340
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 4: you feel like, you know, did you feel any pressure

1341
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 4: heading into this? Did you feel like Oliver didn't deserve

1342
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 4: this one? What was your perspective on this one?

1343
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 11: No, the main driving factor for me is that it

1344
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 11: was the main event, right and I was coming off

1345
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 11: that loss, and to even get a main event coming

1346
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 11: off a loss, like I feel like they expected something

1347
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 11: from me, you know. And then Oliver being you know,

1348
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,439
Speaker 11: a little bit down the rankings, but man, that guy

1349
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 11: is dangerous. That that's a high risk fight. You know,

1350
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 11: he's dangerous. He was flatlining people, you know in those

1351
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 11: highlights of his so it was a high risk. But man,

1352
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 11: like I said, I just feel like I aced that

1353
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 11: test and passed with flying colors, So it was all good.

1354
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Speaker 4: Is this what you expected? Is this what you expected? Sorry, Mario?

1355
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 4: Did you expect to go out there and finish him

1356
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 4: like he did?

1357
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Speaker 11: Uh? Yeah? For me, I felt like he doesn't have

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01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 11: the gas take, you know, I think he barely has

1359
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 11: a gas tank to go at three rounds and then

1360
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 11: so I knew the five rounds would kind of help me.

1361
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Speaker 11: And then on top of that, just being a main event,

1362
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 11: you know, it's his maybe a sick fight in the

1363
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 11: UFC and he's thrown into a main event. You know,

1364
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Speaker 11: I've had like all the experiences of like watching all

1365
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 11: the walk out, you know, into the cage, the whole

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01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 11: patchy mixed thing.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 11: So I've had like these moments, high stress moments I've

1369
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 11: dealt with, you know, and so it was all like

1370
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Speaker 11: in my favor.

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Speaker 5: I believe Mario about Taso with us live on the

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Speaker 5: Anakin Flooring Podcast. Yeah, it's amazing thinking about all these

1373
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 5: career situations that you've been in. I want to take

1374
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 5: you back to two dates if I could, so, your

1375
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 5: short notice UFC debut against Corey Sanhagen. You're six and

1376
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 5: oh you had just beaten Juan Pablo Gonzalez and Tucson

1377
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 5: a couple of months prior. So, can you take us

1378
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 5: back to that point in your career and that call

1379
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 5: coming in and was that sort of before you thought

1380
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 5: you'd get to the UFC. What was your mentality at

1381
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 5: that point in life and in time?

1382
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 11: So at that point, you know, I was high stress.

1383
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 11: It's always high stress like in these moments, right. So

1384
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 11: my daughter was just born. That was I beat one

1385
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 11: in October and I'm gonna I told myself, man, I'm

1386
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 11: gonna puld off until August to get on the Contender

1387
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 11: series and hopefully I get on, and you know so

1388
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 11: I could you know, continue this sport otherwise because that

1389
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 11: doesn't work out, man, I'm gonna have to probably call

1390
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 11: it quits, you know, because my daughter. You know, you

1391
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 11: got to take care of your kids first. A few

1392
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 11: months later, got that call and I was right about

1393
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 11: to eat, you know, a big bull of spaghetti, you know,

1394
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,919
Speaker 11: I got the call. I was like, I better gonna

1395
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 11: take this. Got the call man, and then came back

1396
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 11: at Kuneatha spaghetti. Obviously had a fight in a week,

1397
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 11: but uh yeah, you know, I did what I had

1398
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 11: to do, took that fight. I wish I would have

1399
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 11: had a cant beforehand, but you know, you just gotta

1400
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 11: jump on those opportunities, you know, because if you turn

1401
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 11: that down, you know you might not get another chance.

1402
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 5: So right, God, I took it amazing to think about

1403
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 5: your career in that context, and you know what could

1404
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 5: have been had you actually walked away?

1405
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 6: All right?

1406
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 5: And then you've essentially been perfect since COVID, Right. I mean,

1407
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 5: you and I talked after the Umar and Magametov fight,

1408
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 5: and you had a lot of moments. I know you

1409
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 5: learned a lot from that fight, but it's it's so

1410
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 5: clear to me watching you and Umar that you guys

1411
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 5: are two of the best pound for pound fighters in

1412
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 5: the world. Like, that's what I see, you know, And

1413
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 5: I'm not a fighter, But let me go then to

1414
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 5: March six, twenty twenty one, the backside of the Trevin

1415
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 5: Jones knockout loss at UFC two fifty nine. What is

1416
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 5: your mentality sort of as you digest that result, why

1417
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 5: that happened, and why things have been so good since?

1418
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 11: I think after that loss, you know, I had a

1419
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 11: look at it. You know, I feel like I just

1420
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 11: got caught, you know, And there's times in that fight

1421
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 11: where I felt like, man, I feel like I should

1422
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 11: take them to the ground. You know, we're clinched up, man,

1423
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 11: I feel like I should do this. I was just

1424
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 11: thinking a lot in there. So that's what I took

1425
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 11: from that fight, is like, whatever however I feel going

1426
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,839
Speaker 11: into the next fight. In these moments, if I feel something,

1427
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 11: just go for it, you know, just trust yourself. So

1428
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 11: those are like the things I've learned from losses, you know,

1429
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 11: And I've always bounced back right from losses. I've always

1430
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 11: learned from my losses. And then after that, you know,

1431
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 11: like I said, I just trust myself whatever I'm doing,

1432
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 11: and then we ended up going on that eight fight

1433
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Speaker 11: win streak.

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Speaker 6: There. It's amazing to think of all the good that

1435
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 6: lies ahead. But in terms of what you've already built, right,

1436
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 6: what is it like to go back after a main

1437
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 6: event to win one hundred thousand dollars bonus?

1438
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 3: Right?

1439
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 5: I guess your daughter's probably six or seven right now,

1440
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 5: you know, to be able to realize some sort of

1441
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 5: financial freedom and do this for a living and prove

1442
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:35,440
Speaker 5: to everybody around you, it's just got to be an amazing,

1443
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 5: indescribable feeling, especially when it's not like you're putting a

1444
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 5: ball in a basket and then coming home it's like

1445
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,480
Speaker 5: you're you're you're winning a fight.

1446
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 3: You know.

1447
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's funny. You I just keep forgetting sometimes I

1448
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 11: won that bonus, thank you for reminding me. It's because

1449
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 11: it comes well like eight weeks later.

1450
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 9: So yeah, like eight weeks later.

1451
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 11: Man, it's just been great, you know, even throughout the

1452
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 11: eight fight win streak. You know, you kind of can

1453
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 11: set yourself up through that way too, just winning in general, right,

1454
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 11: but it's just been great, you know, been good vibes

1455
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 11: at the gym, you know, and as you know, you know,

1456
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 11: John Crouch tells everyone do what Mario does, this and

1457
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 11: that follow what he does. And I'm just being consistent

1458
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 11: at the gym, doing what I'm supposed to, just like

1459
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 11: everyone else. So it's just been great. And then for

1460
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 11: my family even better.

1461
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 3: You know.

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01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 11: Like I said, I've already been on this eight fight

1463
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 11: win streak. I'm not bad with my money or anything

1464
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 11: like that, but I'm just gonna keep on going, you know,

1465
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,600
Speaker 11: and hopefully set myself up pretty good for afterwards.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

1467
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 5: So before we let you go, I thought it was

1468
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 5: a wise call out of Corey san Hagen on the mic,

1469
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 5: and you know, Drincis du Plus came out and gave

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Speaker 5: credit recently to israel A Dasani for accepting the Joe

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Speaker 5: Pifer fight on March twenty eighth. You know, and I

1472
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Speaker 5: understand Corey san Hagen's desire to fight Sean O'Malley, but

1473
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 5: you know, it would seem to a lot of us

1474
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 5: like a rematch between the two of you guys as

1475
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 5: a main event really just makes a lot of sense.

1476
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 5: So I do hope that, depending on how matchmaking goes

1477
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 5: with Corey, that that is a fight that comes around

1478
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 5: for you.

1479
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 6: A lot of people want to see you fight Sean O'Malley.

1480
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 5: I don't need you to go too deep into that,

1481
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 5: but I know you guys obviously have trained with each other,

1482
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 5: and I would imagine you would want to avoid that

1483
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 5: unless it was a championship setting. But you know, there's

1484
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 5: only a short list of guys that you can fight

1485
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 5: at this point, given what you've done in the division.

1486
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 5: So what do you think is going to be, you know,

1487
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 5: in your bracket next?

1488
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, no, I like that san Hagen fight, you know,

1489
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 11: but then him versus Sean as a fan, that's a

1490
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 11: pretty cool fight as well. And you know, two strikers

1491
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 11: going at it, and like you said, it's a very

1492
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 11: short list. And then also we just recently found out

1493
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 11: that the champ just had that back surgery, right, so

1494
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 11: that leaves Morob open. I know Morob likes to fight.

1495
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 11: He doesn't like to take these long layoffs, So that'd

1496
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 11: be an awesome fight for me too. I think I

1497
01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 11: match up well against him, and I could kind of

1498
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 11: redeem myself after the Zuomar fight, you know, fighting a wrestler.

1499
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 11: So you got that fight, uh song you dong. Maybe

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01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 11: if it's in the States. What kind of deterred me

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01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,719
Speaker 11: from that was him saying go to Macau or whatever.

1502
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 11: I don't even know where that's at. I believe it's

1503
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 11: in China, but man, I kind of want to stay

1504
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 11: in the States.

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Speaker 4: It's a long flight.

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01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 11: Yeah. So but like you said, anyone in that top five,

1507
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 11: whoever's ahead of me, whatever makes sense, it's gonna be

1508
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 11: a great fight. I'd love to take whatever gets me

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01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 11: closer to that title.

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Speaker 5: Well, you've stepped up repeatedly and it was great for

1511
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 5: us to watch from as far as you shine in

1512
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 5: that main event. Mario Bautista, we appreciate the time you

1513
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 5: can follow this man. You see his handle is populated

1514
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 5: right there below. And uh, you know, maybe I'm all

1515
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 5: talk on the T shirt front, but I at some

1516
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 5: point you're gonna see me wearing a battle born Mario

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01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 5: Bautista T shirt. And you know, can people buy the

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Speaker 5: T shirts right now?

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Speaker 11: And you guys get yeah, you guys can hit you

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Speaker 11: one for you, all right, all right inside the medium and.

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Speaker 5: Larsh my man, Hey, thank you, enjoy the win, enjoy

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Speaker 5: the fruits, and we'll see in a few months hopefully.

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Speaker 4: Brother. Thank you guys for having met Mario.

1525
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 5: There he is Mario Bautista with us here on the

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Speaker 5: Anakin Florian podcast. It was so interesting sharing a few

1527
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 5: moments with him after.

1528
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 6: The U Marna Maaga Metov fight.

1529
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 5: We were, I guess, in a hotel lobby and Abu

1530
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 5: Dhabi and it really is a game of inches right

1531
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,879
Speaker 5: at that level. But uh, you know, obviously there's degrees

1532
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 5: of separation. You and Mario both thought Jose Aldo Junior

1533
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Speaker 5: and uh, it's a good kid right there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I've been to the MMA lab. I trained

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01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 4: with Benson Henderson. I'm not sure if Mario was there

1536
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 4: at the time. I'm very old. Uh so I've been there.

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Speaker 4: I know the gym very well, I know John very

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01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 4: well and uh fan of Marios. Man, it's awesome to

1539
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Speaker 4: see his career. He's a guy that's always getting better

1540
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Speaker 4: and uh, you know, excited to see all his success.

1541
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Speaker 5: Battle born Mario Bautiste, John Crouch and Benson Henderson might

1542
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 5: just have one there at the MMA lab.

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Speaker 6: All right, now joining us is the duck Ian Parker.

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Speaker 6: What's up, my man?

1571
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 3: John?

1572
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 12: And gotta be honest, what was with all the mushy

1573
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 12: shit earlier in the show.

1574
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 7: I saw your face.

1575
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 4: Dude, you didn't like it?

1576
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 5: Well, Ray would raise just like loves that feel good stuff,

1577
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 5: you know, like I've been with some of it.

1578
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 6: Well, he can go both ways, right, never to me? Yeah, no, right,

1579
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 6: I mean yes, right, yeah, which not that much.

1580
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 7: I mean he was my coach.

1581
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 12: He was nice, and then when I did the show

1582
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 12: six years ago, I don't remember being that nice and

1583
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 12: then he was just like, yeah, what do I gotta

1584
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 12: do here? You know, mist and Ray's definitely a Hall

1585
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 12: of Famer at some point.

1586
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 7: But yeah, we saw your face. You're like, stop making

1587
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 7: out already.

1588
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, yeah, no.

1589
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,520
Speaker 5: And I do believe that at some point Code coaches

1590
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 5: could be acknowledged in that Contributors wing of the USA

1591
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame. Yeah, I think that eventually will happen

1592
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 5: real quick. I just want to get your thoughts on this.

1593
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 5: And I don't know how much of the show you've ingested,

1594
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 5: but bro, all of these undisputed champions would seemingly be

1595
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 5: ready to go on June fourteenth, and now we're four

1596
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 5: months out, and I don't know if this is the

1597
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 5: week in which we're gonna get news or next week

1598
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 5: will be the week in which we get news. But

1599
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 5: it's crazy to think about what could happen with these

1600
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 5: six to seven fights.

1601
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 7: I think it would be so stupid to.

1602
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 12: Have twelve title fights eight five, four, three, Like, don't

1603
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 12: do it, don't do it. We already went through this

1604
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 12: one two nine ninety three hundred and then the rest

1605
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 12: of the year was Alex Pereira versus Yuri and Jamal

1606
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 12: Hill on a repeat, Diego Lopez on a repeat. And

1607
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 12: I like those guys, but like I want some balance.

1608
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 12: You could have some great fights without it being a title.

1609
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 12: You know, do two do too the rest? Make number

1610
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 12: one contenders, get some popular prospects on there, get Mario

1611
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:04,759
Speaker 12: Fatista to call himself Super Mario.

1612
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 7: I mean we're not asking for too much, right.

1613
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 6: Kenny ire Afree?

1614
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kenny, I don't disagree with maybe two undisputed title fights, right,

1615
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 5: and potentially the BMF could be in play as well, right,

1616
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 5: But I just feel like they have suggested it's going

1617
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 5: to be the biggest battest fight card in UFC history

1618
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 5: and distance itself from UFC three hundred with six or

1619
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 5: seven fights. I don't know how how you do that

1620
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:29,839
Speaker 5: unless you have three titles, Ken.

1621
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 4: Right, I would think you'd have to have at least

1622
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 4: a few title fights on there. But you know, so, Ian,

1623
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 4: are you saying that you're just afraid that if they

1624
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 4: stack it like that for all title fights, that a

1625
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 4: lot of those fights aren't going to come through, right?

1626
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 12: Is that what you're saying, Well, there's the possibility that

1627
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 12: people don't make it to the wayans right, And then

1628
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,719
Speaker 12: what do you do then? And then I'm also worried

1629
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 12: about quarters three and four just really fucking sucking, you know.

1630
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 12: And when you have all your champs tied up or on,

1631
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 12: they're on the shelf, what do you supposed to do?

1632
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 3: You know?

1633
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 12: Right now, it is true the UFC does lack a

1634
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 12: little bit of stardom, you know. And I don't really

1635
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 12: know how many guys we're jumping out of our seats

1636
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 12: to watch as much as we are potential matchups, right.

1637
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 12: I don't think you need a bazillion title fight to

1638
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 12: do that, right. I mean, if you did let's say

1639
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 12: Islam Eliot the Poria for example, okay, or let's scratch

1640
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 12: at islam Ian Gary, which I know is being rumored, okay,

1641
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 12: and then you did Alex Pereiras Heiro gone stop right

1642
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 12: there at the title fights?

1643
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.

1644
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 7: No, and ant to go any further.

1645
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 6: I don't disagree.

1646
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 7: I four reliable guys that make weight.

1647
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I don't disagree.

1648
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 5: I just think it's really interesting everything that is at

1649
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 5: their disposal right now. And we'll see what they do

1650
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 5: with April, We'll see what they do with me. But uh,

1651
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 5: it's very exciting to think about all of this from

1652
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 5: a matchmaking standpoint, and I'm gonna get you excited about

1653
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 5: Sehn Strickland and Anthony Fluffy Hernandez this WEEKNDI And if

1654
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:01,879
Speaker 5: you're I'm always excited.

1655
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, all right.

1656
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 5: I have a prelim that I would like to just

1657
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 5: brush on if we could. It's in the welterweight division.

1658
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 5: Romz Brahimi. By the way, it's UFC Fight Night, Strickland

1659
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 5: versus Hernandez, Toyota Center, Houston, Texas, USA, this weekend.

1660
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 6: Live on Paramount Plus. I'll be there if you're curious.

1661
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 5: Ramz Brahimi minus one thirty poona Hele Soriano plus one

1662
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 5: ten so ian. I guess this speaks to the depth.

1663
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 5: At one hundred and seventy pounds, tapology has Broughhimi is

1664
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 5: the number forty one best welterweight in the world. He

1665
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 5: has won three in a row. It's hard to crack

1666
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 5: the top twenty five. U Soriana certain's found the right

1667
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 5: weight class. What do you make of these boys at

1668
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 5: one seventy ip.

1669
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 12: I I'm not laughing at his ranking. I just I

1670
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 12: think it's so funny. It's like number forty one right, Like,

1671
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 12: where do you even get that from? Because if he

1672
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 12: wins his fight in the first round, he's gonna fight

1673
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 12: someone at number eight.

1674
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 7: It's just the way the UFC works.

1675
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 12: And thank you for pronouncing it that way, because I

1676
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 12: definitely would not have called him that.

1677
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 7: So I love when you do that thing. First.

1678
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 5: We might have the file on We do have uh,

1679
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 5: we do have the file for ya, dear del Valler,

1680
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 5: the Cuban problem. If you want to hear that. I

1681
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 5: think we did remiz at one point in time. But Cody,

1682
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 5: if you have if you have the Cuban problem, we'll

1683
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 5: listen to that ship.

1684
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 7: Yeah. No, the other guy was involved in.

1685
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 13: The name is a problem is gla My nick name

1686
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 13: is your own.

1687
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 6: Problem, the Cuban problem.

1688
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 12: Sorry, that's exactly how I would have said it.

1689
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 7: Didn't even need it. I think it's going to depend

1690
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 7: on which Poda shows up. I love him in this

1691
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:45,759
Speaker 7: weight class.

1692
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 12: He's got insane power, he's got underrated wrestling. It's just

1693
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 12: sometimes when things don't go his way early, he just

1694
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 12: loses track. And Brobby May is someone that once they

1695
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 12: get going, he sticks to his plan. His grappling, the

1696
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 12: back taking is probably one of the more underrated. I

1697
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 12: would say he's top ten, is supposed to top forty one

1698
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 12: in back taking in the division. Yeah, you know, I

1699
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 12: mean it, because once he gets back there, he just

1700
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 12: doesn't make a lot of mistakes.

1701
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 7: I think the odds make sense.

1702
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 12: I think as long as he stays away from the

1703
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 12: power of Poona, I think he probably gets done.

1704
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 6: Can flow.

1705
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 5: Soriano trains under Eric Nixic Extreme Co Tour plus one ten.

1706
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 5: Right now you can argue he's fought the better schedule

1707
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 5: of late. He's the slight dog here against Ramizbrahi Mai.

1708
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 5: Who do you love?

1709
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 4: Two guys with three fight win streaks? You know, so

1710
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 4: really interesting and yeah, I think a lot of it

1711
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 4: is on Poona. You know, it's it's it's inconsistent sometimes,

1712
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 4: And I do think that not only is brought him

1713
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 4: I great at taking the back, He's also very good

1714
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 4: with his guillotine chokes as well, which could be a

1715
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 4: great null A fier against someone who is a very

1716
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 4: good wrestler like Soriano. I think Soriano is probably more

1717
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 4: apt to try to keep it on the feet and

1718
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 4: look for a knock. I think he can win that

1719
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 4: way as well. But I agree with Ian here. I

1720
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 4: like brought him as chances here. I think just his

1721
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 4: submission game makes him a little bit more of a

1722
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 4: threat in my eyes. But could see either one of

1723
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 4: these guys winning, which I think, why the odds are

1724
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 4: what they are, all right?

1725
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 5: Next up on the main car middleweight division, Michelle Paata

1726
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 5: minus one sixty two Zachary Reeves plus one thirty six.

1727
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 5: Remember when paeda Ian had won eight fights in a row.

1728
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 5: You knew I was going to say that he's lost

1729
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,560
Speaker 5: three in a row now to Anthony Fluffy hernandez A

1730
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 5: Boost Magametov and Kyle Dakas. Certainly two of those three

1731
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 5: are credentialed ranked guys. He's the road favorite here against

1732
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 5: the Shiner Texas native Zachary Reeves.

1733
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 6: Ian Parker, go ahead.

1734
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 12: I mean, guys, if Michelle pana I can't win this fight,

1735
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 12: what are we doing here? This is someone who is

1736
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 12: so much more wave skilled than Zach Reese. And it's

1737
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 12: not even anything against Zach Reese, but on the feet,

1738
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 12: his jiu jitsu level of competition everything, and he has

1739
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 12: stopped doing that circus to circul a bullshit, right, He

1740
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 12: stopped flipping, he stopped dancing. I don't know what's been

1741
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 12: going on with in these last couple of fights. I

1742
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 12: don't know if he was, you know, taking some stuff

1743
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 12: now not taking some stuff.

1744
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 7: But this is a guy that at.

1745
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 12: His best is very very dangerous if his gas tank

1746
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 12: holds up. He's got precise striking, and Zach Reese is

1747
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 12: very very hittable.

1748
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 7: So I'm gonna go Peiri here.

1749
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 12: I just can't see him losing this fight, and if

1750
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 12: he does, he does not belong in the UFC.

1751
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 5: Zach Reese Kenny Busy, twenty twenty five. He did win

1752
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 5: his last two fights of the year, and down the

1753
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 5: I fight in a couple hours from home, already his

1754
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 5: third UFC fight in Texas. He's yet to win in

1755
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 5: his native Texas. What do you think, Short Price? I

1756
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,839
Speaker 5: guess on both sides, depending how convicted you are Potator

1757
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 5: Reese for you Ken.

1758
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean these are two guys that are gonna

1759
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 4: be big at middleweight. I think that the big difference

1760
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 4: for me, more than this skill for me Ian is

1761
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 4: the athleticism of Patata. He is going to be significantly

1762
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 4: faster than Reese, and I think that's where Reese is

1763
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 4: most likely going to struggle getting into position to hit

1764
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 4: Pereira when he wants him when he wants to, you know,

1765
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 4: having some of those exchanges in the pocket with someone

1766
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 4: like Paeda, who is so fast, I think that's where

1767
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 4: he can maybe find himself in trouble. But I think,

1768
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 4: you know, Reese can win this fight if he's able

1769
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 4: to put Pereira on his back, if he's able to

1770
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 4: land the right shot at the right time. But the

1771
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 4: athleticism difference for me is huge. I think Paeda, despite

1772
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 4: being on that three fight losing streak, is the favorite,

1773
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 4: and I think there's some juicy odds for him. I

1774
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 4: think I think you can. I think he can win

1775
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 4: some money with Padata, assuming he shows up and is healthy.

1776
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 4: I like Patata a lot in this spot.

1777
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 5: Minus one sixty two right now, all right, next up

1778
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,759
Speaker 5: on the main card this weekend in Houston at heavyweight.

1779
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 5: You want to say, Alia, I've never called his fight.

1780
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 5: Aunte Delia is what we're going with. Antae Delhia minus

1781
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 5: one fifty five. Sergi the Polar Bear Spivak is plus

1782
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 5: one thirty. So Delia the Croatian trains alongside Tom aspen

1783
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 5: All certainly hasn't had Tom services for this training camp

1784
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 5: e and he is thirty five years of age. Great

1785
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:23,560
Speaker 5: nickname Walking Trouble. We'll see how much he can respond

1786
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 5: in kind to the knockout lost to Waldo Cortez a Costa.

1787
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 6: What do you make in the heavyweights?

1788
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,679
Speaker 12: Her ip I had a great joke about him training

1789
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 12: with Aspatoll until you said he wasn't training with this camp.

1790
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, he probably looks great.

1791
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 12: Tom probably doesn't even know it was there.

1792
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,759
Speaker 7: It was there. But you're too smart.

1793
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 12: Well problem, You're just too smart, and you're you're with

1794
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 12: is just so far above mine.

1795
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 7: Ant Delia is a very underrated fighter. That Waldo fight

1796
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 7: was nuts.

1797
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 12: But I think Kenny and I could both speak on this.

1798
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 12: We both have called a lot of ant Delia's fights.

1799
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 12: This is a very well rounded fighter. When he doesn't

1800
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 12: go out there in brawls and he's technical, he's a

1801
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 12: dangerous heavyweight, good striking, good wrestling. He's been in five

1802
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 12: round battles, He's overcome adversity, and he's fighting guy in

1803
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,719
Speaker 12: Spivak who's just a quitter. I don't like his mental

1804
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 12: when he goes into these fights. Sometimes he doesn't have

1805
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 12: an urgency to win if he doesn't get his way

1806
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 12: right away. For Dalia, this is a really good spot

1807
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 12: for him. I think he's getting a good name coming

1808
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 12: off a loss and get him right back into the

1809
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 12: mix of this really bizarre heavyweight state right now. So

1810
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 12: give me Walking Trouble John. You should love that nickname.

1811
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 12: That's a good nickname.

1812
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 6: I just acknowledged it.

1813
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 7: As I know, I'm just saying like I was waiting for, like.

1814
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 5: Walking Trouble, fair fair all right, Oh, I will blow

1815
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 5: it out for you on the sticks this Weekendio number

1816
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 5: seven of the world. Kenny Ante Walking Trouble Delhi is

1817
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,680
Speaker 5: the number nine rank contender right now. So Spivok just

1818
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 5: turned thirty one. He's eight and six of the UFC.

1819
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 5: As you know, he's headlined several. He was winless in

1820
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 5: his two appearances last year. Maybe he's hit his ceiling, Kenny,

1821
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 5: I'm not so sure. What do you make of the

1822
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 5: big men coming up this weekend?

1823
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 6: Brother?

1824
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, he may have man And there is a point

1825
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 4: where he had a good wind streak going where I

1826
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 4: was really impressed with his ability to integrate his striking

1827
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 4: into his takedowns. He was hitting some really beautiful takedowns

1828
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 4: which I thought was cool, high level stuff and the

1829
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 4: judo realm, but we haven't really seen that. I don't

1830
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 4: think he has the same confidence that we saw when

1831
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 4: he was on that wind streak. And to fight someone

1832
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 4: like Aunte Delia right now, I think is not a

1833
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 4: good thing. I have yet to see Delia smile. This

1834
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 4: guy walking trouble, his nickname is is tremendous. The guy

1835
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 4: loves to fight. He's very dangerous. Had a little hiccup

1836
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 4: of course against Waldo court Deza Coosta, but he did

1837
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 4: have a cost of hurt as well. This guy can

1838
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 4: crack boy, and he's gonna be very difficult to take down.

1839
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 4: And that's why I can't back Spivok in this fight.

1840
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 4: Spivoc his best chance is putting h Delhia on his back,

1841
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 4: and even then it would be extremely difficult. So I

1842
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 4: think Deli is poised here for not only a win,

1843
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 4: but uh probably a finish by knockout.

1844
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 12: I got I got a question question for you. Is

1845
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 12: someone out of this group is a former fighter. Do

1846
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 12: you think Aunt Delia having a third nipple is an

1847
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 12: advantage in this fight?

1848
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 4: It might be a distraction to Spivok, you know, get

1849
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 4: him off his game, stares and then gets knocked out.

1850
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 6: I'm distracted right now and I'm gonna be calling the fight.

1851
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 6: Does he have a third nipple?

1852
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1853
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 4: He does?

1854
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 7: There he does.

1855
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 5: Okay, interesting. I hope it doesn't come up in the

1856
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 5: fighter meeting. But this will be the first time that

1857
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 5: I call his fight, So I'm excited to shout walk

1858
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 5: in trouble.

1859
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 6: Should he do something, I'd be.

1860
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 4: Scared to ask him about it to be came.

1861
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 6: Oh, I will not be. Yeah. Are they all sensitive right?

1862
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 6: Like they all feel good? Or just one of them? No?

1863
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 7: If I flick that one to the other.

1864
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 6: Can those no? O?

1865
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1866
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 5: Well, and you know if Maren Skiffitch on our crew,

1867
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 5: is any indication some of those Croatian those Eastern Europeans,

1868
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 5: they don't. They're no nonsense, not small talk people. So

1869
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 5: all right, featured bout in the featherweight division and it

1870
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 5: features why you laugh, dude? Hey, oh okay, all right,

1871
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 5: I thought you were good.

1872
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 6: All right.

1873
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 5: Melkaziel Costa the Dalmatian is minus one ninety eight Dan

1874
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 5: fifty k Ea plus one sixty four Costa twenty nine.

1875
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 5: He's won five in a row, six of seven. Good

1876
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 5: strength of schedule instincts to a well rounded fighter, and

1877
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 5: you need opportunities against guys in the top fifteen. It's

1878
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 5: a definite step up in competition. How do you think

1879
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 5: he handles it?

1880
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 12: End Yeah, Look, if you want to get to the

1881
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 12: next level, Danny Gay is that litmus test. It's just

1882
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 12: who he is in the division. At this point, He's

1883
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 12: tough for any style. I think Costa, though, is catching

1884
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 12: him at the right point in Egay's career, and I

1885
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:00,640
Speaker 12: think he's getting the right momentum.

1886
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 7: That confidence is there, and he's just getting better too.

1887
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 12: You know, at one point it was like, oh, we're

1888
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 12: just gonna watch him grapple. Now the striking is complimenting that.

1889
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 12: Now his striking is really dangerous. Now he's unpredictable and

1890
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,560
Speaker 12: he keeps getting better. Yeah, you can give me the

1891
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 12: Dalmatian here, because in a few months, if he gets

1892
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 12: this win, he's gonna be a two to three one

1893
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 12: favorite over a lot of guys.

1894
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 7: And I think he's a dark horse in this division.

1895
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 5: I thought Ian was gonna say, in a few months,

1896
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 5: I'm gonna buy a Dalmatian and.

1897
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 6: Name it Melchiziel.

1898
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 5: It's got some you know, all right, Hey, if melki

1899
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 5: is Ael Costa wins the belt. Will you buy a

1900
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 5: Dalmatian and name it melkaz Al.

1901
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 12: I might have to come live with you if I

1902
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 12: get another dog, but yeah.

1903
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 6: Helk little melki ken flow.

1904
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 5: Dan Egay, the hardened Hawaiian, is thirty four years of age.

1905
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 5: He's eleven to nine in the UFC, lost to Pitt

1906
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 5: Bull's last time out at UFC three eighteen.

1907
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 6: Could use a win here.

1908
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 5: He's lost three of four, holding on to that number

1909
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 5: fourteen ranking and thereby he gets the red corner. But

1910
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 5: of course Melcazaiel Costa's coming, Kenny, who do you like?

1911
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1912
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 4: Really interesting fight. You know, Costa is a guy who

1913
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 4: I think is definitely improving as a fighter, as Ian said,

1914
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 4: I think that his striking has looked better and better.

1915
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 4: He's extremely dangerous when it comes to being able to

1916
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 4: get a finish, whether it's on the ground or on

1917
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:20,679
Speaker 4: the feet. But this is going to be a huge

1918
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 4: test for him. Dan IgA has faced much higher competition,

1919
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 4: and you know, you see Costa on a four fight

1920
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 4: win streak, and you look at just the record of

1921
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 4: Ega in the last four fights and you're like, he's

1922
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 4: one in three. Of course, Costa is gonna win. Well,

1923
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 4: not necessarily. Egay has faced high level guys in Pitbull,

1924
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 4: Lura Murphy, Jego Lopez. I mean, these are elite, elite guys,

1925
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 4: and I think Egay is going to be a threat,

1926
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 4: especially the fact that you know he needs a win,

1927
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 4: and I think he's most dangerous when he's in these

1928
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 4: kind of tough spots where he needs it. And uh,

1929
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:53,640
Speaker 4: this is a Hawaiian fighter that is going to be

1930
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 4: looking to take your head off. But uh, I think

1931
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 4: Costa is only getting more confident, and I think he's

1932
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 4: reaching that potential that everyone was talking about, and I

1933
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 4: think he probably wins this fight, but I think it's

1934
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 4: gonna be an exciting one.

1935
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:09,719
Speaker 6: Nicely handled.

1936
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Speaker 5: Gentlemen, We move along to the comain event in the

1937
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 5: welchweight division, Jeff Neil Monus one ninety two, Uros Mediic

1938
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 5: plus one sixty. Neil still among the ranked in number

1939
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 5: twelve in the world right now. Last win came against

1940
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 5: Tafel Dosanjos that was back in twenty twenty four. Comes

1941
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 5: in here off the brutal knockout loss to Carlos the

1942
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 5: Nightmare Protest that was last August and certainly in uro

1943
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 5: sch Medici and not nearly the resume of previous Jeff

1944
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 5: Neil opponents. What do you make of Jeff about two

1945
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:38,839
Speaker 5: to one this weekend?

1946
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,560
Speaker 12: I don't like him as a two one favorite, not

1947
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 12: right now. Yeah, to me, this is a Jeff Neil

1948
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 12: prove that you're still Jeff Neil. You still got that power,

1949
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 12: you still have that confidence.

1950
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 7: You know.

1951
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 12: I'm hearing a lot about, you know, some issues he's

1952
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 12: had with drugs and alcohol, which is great that he's

1953
01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 12: open getting help. You know, it's he's catching someone in

1954
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:05,679
Speaker 12: medicic who's catching fire right now, who's got insane power.

1955
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 12: I mean, I keep saying medic is gonna lose every

1956
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 12: fight that comes up, right It's like, oh, put him

1957
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:11,719
Speaker 12: on his back, he's gonna lose.

1958
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 7: But he touches you and you go to the shadow.

1959
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 12: Realm and Jeff Neil coming off that knockout give me

1960
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 12: medics right now. I want to go with the up

1961
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 12: and coming. I want to go with the power, you know,

1962
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 12: with Jeff Neil. I need to see a little bit

1963
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 12: more improvements in the overall game. Maybe he wrestles here.

1964
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 12: We know he can, he just doesn't. It's just It's

1965
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 12: a shame because I think this guy had a really

1966
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 12: high trajectory and just it just missed the mark here.

1967
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 12: And I think medi this is another moment where it

1968
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 12: might be right place, right time, right name for our

1969
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 12: Euro's managed to really get a good name on his resume.

1970
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 5: Jeff Neil thirty five, Udo Schmititz thirty two. Metich has

1971
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 5: won three of four Kenny positioning himself with his finishes

1972
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 5: for this major opportunity right Komaine event not sure if

1973
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,759
Speaker 5: his face is on the poster, but getting a rank depauent.

1974
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 5: What do you make of the Serbian Udoschmitic and his

1975
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 5: chances here as a plus one sixty or so underdog

1976
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:08,680
Speaker 5: against Jeffy.

1977
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 4: Well, we have a very similar scenario to the fight

1978
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 4: we just talked about in cost A Ega, where you

1979
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 4: have one guy not on the best win streak in

1980
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 4: the last four fights, another guy who is, but they've

1981
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 4: both faced very different levels of competition. Now you know what,

1982
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 4: Jeff Neil, are we going to see? Is this the

1983
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 4: fight that is going to kind of get him back?

1984
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,799
Speaker 4: Maybe fighting in his home state is a good sign.

1985
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 4: I don't know, but he needs a win here big time.

1986
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 4: And if he's losing to someone like a Udous medicul,

1987
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 4: who I do think has a lot of potential, but

1988
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 4: I don't think he's like a world beater necessarily. I

1989
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 4: think it might be, you know, assume that Jeff Neil

1990
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 4: is gonna have to retire or maybe go somewhere else,

1991
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 4: which is unfortunate because he is a great athlete. He's

1992
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 4: got knockout power. I think he's physically impressive, and so

1993
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 4: this is a fight that he needs to win, and

1994
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 4: I think he should win the odds. Yeah, I agree, Ian,

1995
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 4: I think it's a little tricky. I'm not sure I'm

1996
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 4: putting any money on Jeff Neil uh in this spot,

1997
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 4: but I do think he wins this fight and should

1998
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 4: win this fight. UDA's menage is very dangerous right now,

1999
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 4: but I think Jeff Neil should be able to pull

2000
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 4: this one off by decision.

2001
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 6: And the general safe. Seuta is a good friend of

2002
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 6: mine and he is a mastermind in this MMA space.

2003
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 6: But I think some of the messaging might just be like, hey, man,

2004
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 6: like to Kenny's point, you need to go fucking beat

2005
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 6: Udo Schmititz right now.

2006
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 5: Okay, that ain't shopcot guy, you know. Anyway, We'll see

2007
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 5: all right main event at middleweight, kemp Flow will lead

2008
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:41,679
Speaker 5: us here. This is the division's number three and number

2009
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 5: four ranked fighters, respectively. Anthony Fluffy, Hernandez Monus two to

2010
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 5: eighty five Shoans Strickland plus two thirty.

2011
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 6: What a fight.

2012
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 5: Strickland the former un disputed champion, Kenny seemingly motivated understanding

2013
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 5: what type of physical challenge is in front of him.

2014
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 5: Fluffy just doesn't go away. He's won eight in a row.

2015
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 5: He's title shot worthy already with respect to No Sordini,

2016
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:06,640
Speaker 5: Mavov and everybody else. First appears for Strickland since he

2017
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:09,719
Speaker 5: lost the title or lost the title fight to Drinkis

2018
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,599
Speaker 5: two plus see that was last February at UFC three twelve,

2019
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 5: So a year long layoff for Strickland finds himself under

2020
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:18,600
Speaker 5: the lights with Anthony Fluffy, Hernandez Can Flow take it

2021
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:19,719
Speaker 5: away on the main event.

2022
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 4: Every time I think about this fight, I just kind

2023
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 4: of smile inside or maybe smile outwardly as well, because

2024
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,720
Speaker 4: both of these guys bring a certain energy to the

2025
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 4: octagon every single time they fight, no matter who they're fighting.

2026
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 4: Now they're fighting each other. So I think it's a

2027
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 4: very interesting dynamic. I love the fact that Sean Strickland

2028
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 4: seems like he's very fired up. He has had some

2029
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 4: very spicy sparring sessions. It seems like he's been a

2030
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:52,879
Speaker 4: lot louder now, which I see all his good signs.

2031
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 4: You know, it seems like, you know, spicy Sean Strickland

2032
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 4: is coming out more and more Again. He was quiet

2033
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 4: for a little bit. Uh maybe look like he was

2034
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 4: maturing a little bit. But no, I think Sean Strickland,

2035
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 4: the old John Strickland, is back and that's that's the

2036
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:11,639
Speaker 4: guy that needs to fight Anthony Hernandez in this fight.

2037
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 4: You know, he can't fight that conservatively, yere. I actually

2038
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 4: think he needs to bring a lot of chaos to

2039
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 4: see if he can match Hernandez. The problem is, I

2040
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 4: don't know if anybody in that division can bring that

2041
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 4: level of pressure and chaos and pacing and conditioning that

2042
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 4: Anthony Hernandez brings. This guy is on what an eight

2043
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 4: fight win streak right now, which is just ridiculous in

2044
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 4: the UFC, especially given the fact that that division is

2045
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 4: the strongest it's ever been so and the fact that

2046
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,640
Speaker 4: Anthony Hernandez is still climbing. He needs, he wants to

2047
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:49,680
Speaker 4: get to the top of the mountain. John Strickland has

2048
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 4: already been there, and I think that this is a

2049
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 4: guy that is certainly going to be hungry. I just

2050
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 4: think his grappling is going to be a little bit

2051
01:37:59,240 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 4: too much.

2052
01:37:59,640 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 3: You know.

2053
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 4: If Seawan Strickland had a little bit more power, you know,

2054
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 4: I think it would it would give him a much

2055
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 4: better chance. He's not necessarily known for that. He's more

2056
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 4: of a volume striker. He ties you out, you know,

2057
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 4: similar to the pressure that Hernandez brings. He does it

2058
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 4: in the striking realm by taking away space and backing

2059
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 4: you up. But Hernandez, I don't think he's going to

2060
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 4: take too many steps backwards. I think he's going to

2061
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 4: be the guy that's going to be pressuring. And Strickland

2062
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 4: is very good fighting going backwards as well. It's not

2063
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 4: his strength, however, And when you have a groppler like

2064
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 4: Hernandez who knows how to control and put out a

2065
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 4: fire no matter what you're bringing, it's hard to go

2066
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:44,720
Speaker 4: against Hernandez right now. So I like Anthony Fluffy Hernandez here.

2067
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes for a suffocating night at the office,

2068
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 5: not on like the Midway Champion Comsat Chima. I have

2069
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 5: Anthony Fluffy Hernandez in Monus two to eighty five and

2070
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 5: climbing Sean Strickland plus two thirty.

2071
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 6: Who do you like?

2072
01:38:58,800 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 7: Out to me?

2073
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 6: What Kenny?

2074
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 7: What Kenny said?

2075
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 3: Oh?

2076
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 12: Sorry, yeah, Cody just on mute to me, my mad.

2077
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 12: A couple of notes that stout out that Kenny said

2078
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 12: about Sean Strickland, the words spicy and coming out. It's

2079
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 12: an interesting choice of words with someone of Sean Strickland.

2080
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 7: Don't know if I would have done that.

2081
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:18,759
Speaker 12: I'm glad you are a ten time ten division UFC

2082
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 12: fighter that you can handle that if he comes after you,

2083
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 12: because I wouldn't have done that, and he's not mature.

2084
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 12: He definitely will listen to this and be like, yo,

2085
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 12: Kenny thinks I'm gay, but uh, here's the reality. I

2086
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 12: think this might be the worst matchup in the division

2087
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 12: not named Hamza Shamaiah for Sewn Strickland. Sean Strickland is

2088
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 12: someone who is hard to take down, who's hard to

2089
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 12: out Cardio, who's hard to out pressure. And when you

2090
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 12: have a Tasmanian devil who's also controlled like Fluffy Hernandez,

2091
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:50,680
Speaker 12: I don't know how you could pick against him. Right now,

2092
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 12: unless it's against Hamza. If he would have fought de Ritter,

2093
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 12: he would.

2094
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:56,560
Speaker 7: Have mauled him.

2095
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 12: It would have been a disgusting fight like what he

2096
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:01,839
Speaker 12: did to rowand Delez. I think Hernandez is just clicking

2097
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 12: on all cylinders. But Kenny, the question I think for

2098
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 12: is can Sean stop those early takedowns and fos forced

2099
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 12: Hernandez to turn this into a Sean Strickland slower pace

2100
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 12: kickboxing match. If he can, Sean's got a shot. If not,

2101
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 12: this is gonna be Fluffy's fight. I think this is

2102
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 12: going to go all five rounds. Fluffy wins by decision.

2103
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 5: About sixteen hours ago, Anthony Fluffy Hernandez posted on Instagram,

2104
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,840
Speaker 5: love you Nino, give Grandma and my pops a hug

2105
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 5: for me. I don't know if it was an ant

2106
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 5: or whomever passed away, but he is dealing with a

2107
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 5: significant familial loss here during fight weeks. So we wish

2108
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 5: the Hernandez family all the best as they mourn the

2109
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 5: loss of that loved one. All right, nicely done on

2110
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:50,880
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Speaker 5: so north of twelve hundred dollars in profit for Ian

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Speaker 5: Parker and that brings your year today figure very close

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Speaker 12: I shall not make the same mistake I haven't written down.

2132
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 12: I don't want to be fired even after sweeping the board.

2133
01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 12: So let's start off with. Give me Cheety Bang Bang

2134
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 12: over Carlos Leal for two hundred at plus one fourteen. Okay,

2135
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 12: if this fight stays on the feet, Leal is going

2136
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 12: to the shadow realm. We just saw it happen against

2137
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 12: a much older fighter. I don't think le All's getting

2138
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 12: him down. That plus money is interesting to me. Let's

2139
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 12: go give me Pereira for two hundred. Okay, give me

2140
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 12: walking third Nipple trouble two hundred, and I'm gonna go

2141
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 12: three way parlay here. Give me Fluffy, give me the Dalmation,

2142
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Speaker 12: Give me Jacobe Smith over Josiah Harrell. I love the

2143
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Speaker 12: Harald story. I love that he's back. Brutal matchup at

2144
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 12: a UFC debut. It's like, it's like, dude, you beat cancer,

2145
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Speaker 12: you beat a brain injury. We're gonna feed you to

2146
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:50,040
Speaker 12: this beast. But even if you lose, you're in at

2147
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Speaker 12: plus one seventy three. I'm going four hundred on that parlay.

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Speaker 5: I like that parlay on paper Fluffy Costa Jacoby Smith

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Speaker 5: plus one seventy three or so. Yeah, short not this

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Speaker 5: UFC debut against Jacoby Smith. Will see how that goes

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Speaker 5: for Josiah Harold Kent Flow thousand bucks. As you try

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Speaker 5: to build upon your lead, who do you like?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna keep it real simple here. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: go all one thousand dollars on Auntie Delhia.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that I like it. So Aunty Delhia minus one

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Speaker 6: fifty or so very interesting stuff from Ken Flow with

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Speaker 6: the whole band on that, uh Ian Parker anything else

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Speaker 6: before he lets you fly, Buddy, you could? Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Now, I got a roof of this bet to lose

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Speaker 12: heads to the other side. I gotta do what John

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Speaker 12: does when he bets on his patriots, and.

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Speaker 6: I bet against Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, you gotta bet on Dan Egay because otherwise you're

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Speaker 5: gonna have a fucking Dalmatian to go with your other

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Speaker 5: seven dollars.

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Speaker 12: I'm naming melky Anik. Hey, Yeah, it's uh Kenny. I

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Speaker 12: like that play a lot man.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Hey, at Ian Parker, MMA, enjoy the enjoy the fights, buddy.

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Speaker 6: We'll talk to you next Monday. Thank you kid, Thank

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Speaker 6: you bros.

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Speaker 5: Ian Parker with us live on the Anak and Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 5: All right, we'll see how it goes for you fellas.

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Speaker 5: I'm excited to do a fight night. You know, it's

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Speaker 5: been a lot of these numbered events. We got wheels

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Speaker 5: up to Houston, Texas on Wednesday, and then next week

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Speaker 5: we will recap it with you folks and get you

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Speaker 5: ready for the next offering, which of course is coming

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Speaker 5: up Mexico City at the end of the month. Lonnie

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Speaker 5: Cavanaugh stepping in against Brandon Moreno in that main event.

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Speaker 5: Thanks to everybody behind the scenes at all the smoke,

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Speaker 5: fight for help and build this engine. Thanks to our

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Speaker 5: live producer Cody Merril. Thanks to our guest Michael Kisa,

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Speaker 5: Mario Bautista, three Punch Convos, Rock Russ Makowski and Ray

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Speaker 5: Longo of course stealing everybody's thunder walking Trouble good nickname

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Speaker 5: for Ray Longo.

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Speaker 6: Thanks everybody for watching listening.

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Speaker 5: Please calmly subscribe to the Anakin and Florent Podcast YouTube

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Speaker 5: channel and we'll talk to you real soon next Monday

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Speaker 5: for Kemplum John Anak.

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Speaker 6: Until then, you'll fucking later