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Speaker 1: You got a question about that odd noise your cars making.

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Speaker 1: Not sure how to understand the fine prints in that

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Speaker 1: car lease you're about to sign, then this is where

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Speaker 1: to turn for help.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the car Doctor.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little risk.

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Speaker 4: You don't dry with your eyes, you cried with your heart.

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Speaker 1: Ram an Indian is here to answer your questions about cars.

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Speaker 3: If you think in any way, shape or form, it's

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Speaker 3: tire related.

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Speaker 2: Slide the front tires to the back. Just wrote to

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Speaker 2: see if that makes a difference when I say whoa,

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Speaker 2: ah me whoa.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the car doctor, Rob an Indian.

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Speaker 4: Talking about what constitutes hands free calling and should it

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Speaker 4: be banned?

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Speaker 3: And then again does it really matter anymore?

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome.

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Speaker 3: I'm Ronneani in the Car Doc.

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Speaker 4: There is a trend of foot and a growing concern

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Speaker 4: that vehicle manufacturers are creating too many distractions in cars today,

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Speaker 4: and they're doing it because everybody out there is looking

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Speaker 4: for them. GPS, Bluetooth devices, web browsing, sound systems, and

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Speaker 4: climate control features that are all taking everybody's eyes off

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Speaker 4: the road, and they're all part of current and future

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Speaker 4: vehicles soon to be found found out on America's highways

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Speaker 4: and byways. The choices and chances of only a cell

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Speaker 4: phone being a distraction are fading quickly, so much so

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Speaker 4: it's almost that the cell phone isn't that isn't that

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Speaker 4: big a problem anymore. There's talk out of Washington now

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Speaker 4: that's going to modify how these electronically laden vehicles are

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Speaker 4: going to be marketed are manufactured, so much so that

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Speaker 4: the government is talking about stepping in and mandating that

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Speaker 4: a certain amount of manufacturers' profits are going to have

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Speaker 4: to be dedicated to a safe marketing campaign. Sort of like, well,

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Speaker 4: now that you've bought this rolling computer that drives on

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Speaker 4: web browsing and texting and YadA YadA yad built into it,

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Speaker 4: here's why we don't think you should use those features.

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Speaker 2: Now that you've paid for them. It's gonna be one

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Speaker 2: of those And my.

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Speaker 3: Question to you this hour is sort of along those lines.

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Speaker 3: Are there too many distractions in modern vehicles? Are we

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Speaker 3: creating our own problems? Look, driving a vehicle used to

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Speaker 3: involve driving.

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Speaker 2: Think about it.

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Speaker 3: You'd be driving along, where are your hands? Hands in

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Speaker 2: Ten and two?

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Speaker 4: There were no phones there were no gps is, there

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Speaker 4: were no toys, and you've created vehicles now that are

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Speaker 4: capable of cruising along it eighty miles an hour better,

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Speaker 4: and that's the norm.

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Speaker 3: And it sort of sets the stage for disaster.

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Speaker 4: You're doing eighty out on the highway, trying to stay

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Speaker 4: do ninety, and you know everybody else in their little

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Speaker 4: cars trying to do one hundred. And you reach over

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Speaker 4: and you know, you're trying to turn the radio on,

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Speaker 4: of the wrist and the wrong turn and you're in

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Speaker 4: the ditch or worse. Studies of late show that more

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Speaker 4: drivers are being distracted just in this manner behind the wheel,

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Speaker 4: and they're not even driving at eighty.

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Speaker 2: They're driving at sixty, they're driving at sixty five.

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Speaker 4: And the last thing that you're actually doing is driving.

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Speaker 4: You're too busy doing everything else. I told the story

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Speaker 4: here on the show a couple of weeks ago. I

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Speaker 4: I was in the suburban equal sized vehicles, and she's

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if she was looking where she

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Speaker 4: Thank god, we were on a straight section of the highway.

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Speaker 4: My point is, and here's the question I want to

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Speaker 4: simple modification? First of all, yeah, we've got to do

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Speaker 4: But should there be a simple modification? Should we start

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Speaker 4: Should require cell phones not to work when the GPS

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Speaker 4: detects movement. Taking your comments, calls and feedback today on

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Speaker 4: this in all automotive topics, as long as you're not

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Speaker 4: driving while doing it, come on, give the car doctor

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Speaker 4: a call. Eight hundred and five four four seven oh

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Speaker 4: seven er down around the bottom of the hour, We're

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Speaker 4: going to be joined by Ron Ross Gasoline Alley. We're

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Speaker 4: going to stack the against mister Ross this hour, and

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Speaker 4: we're gonna put Courtney our own Courtney or Vegas. She

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Speaker 4: is the Vegas pool hustler here running the show today.

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Speaker 4: Dipstick is I'm not sure where Dipstick is. I think

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Speaker 4: he lost his directions or the hundaid doesn't start. I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure exactly what happened, and the clutches out. Today

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Speaker 4: we're joined by Spinout. I've got spin Out and Vegas

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Speaker 4: in the control room. But we're gonna be doing Automotive

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Speaker 4: Jeopardy down around the bottom of the hour. And I

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Speaker 4: know Vegas has been studying hard and she's.

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Speaker 2: All ready to go.

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Speaker 4: You're already in there, Vegas. You're all set and ready

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Speaker 4: to take on Ron Ross. And I think, so, okay, well,

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Speaker 4: let's be positive. Now. You know the number one what

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Speaker 4: do you You're the number thirty seventh ranked pool player

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Speaker 3: I think that is which one.

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Speaker 4: You're the number thirty seventh ranked pool play eight sixty eight,

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Speaker 4: thirty seven, sixty eight, whatever, you're in the top one hundred.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you know you're you're a better pool player than me.

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Speaker 3: Gotta be right, we won money too, Did you really?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 3: Did you really? You you won money playing pool?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Sounds like a hustler to me.

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna see if she can hustle Ron Ross

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Speaker 4: down around the bottom of the hour. But right now,

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Speaker 4: let's do what the car doctor likes to do best.

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Speaker 4: Let's get over and talk to Stan Marlborough, New Jersey

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Speaker 4: O Force Chevy and palla. Hey, Stan, how can I

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Speaker 4: help you, sir?

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Speaker 6: Hi Ron might impala The gauges went haywire. In other words,

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Speaker 6: this is the third time this speedometer has missed up

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Speaker 6: and eventually it'll reset and go back to zero. Now

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Speaker 6: the temperature gauge went out, and now that won't reset. Okay.

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Speaker 6: My question is can I take the cluster out and

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Speaker 3: The answer is yes and no.

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Speaker 6: I know what you're going to say, right.

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Speaker 4: The mechanical side of it is, yes, you can operate

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Speaker 2: Rolling up the miles right.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you the story my Force Suburban.

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Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago. I was talking about how

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Speaker 4: I was trying to keep up with traffic, and I

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Speaker 4: miles an hour because my spinometer broke. So I'm fresh

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Speaker 4: off this repair stand. I just went through this for

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Speaker 4: the last two weeks.

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Speaker 2: You take the.

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Speaker 4: Cluster out, you hand it to the GM Electronic Repair Center,

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Speaker 4: and my cluster was under recall, all right, So GM

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Speaker 4: has an extended warranty on my vehicle, and I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: be surprised if it's on yours as well. You may

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Speaker 4: there are any recoils applicable to that vehicle. It's based

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Speaker 4: on vin Okay, and it was a matter of handing

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Speaker 4: The glitch I ran into was because I sort of

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Speaker 4: kind of went in the back door of.

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Speaker 2: The parts department.

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Speaker 4: I told my guys in parts, I said, look, I'm

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Speaker 4: not tying up the truck for a day. I don't

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Speaker 4: have time to come up and see you get me

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Speaker 4: a cluster. I'll go pick it up. You warranty it,

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Speaker 4: I'll put it in. I'm happy nobody's touching my vehicle

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Speaker 4: to begin with. That's a whole nother story. That's a neurosis.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, yes, I could have driven the VA.

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, they do have to program in odometer and hour

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Speaker 4: been running for. It's part of the warranty campaign and

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Speaker 4: to keep track of engine hours, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: Which I think is a heck of an idea. So

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Speaker 2: the long and the short of it is, at best,

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Speaker 2: you could lose the car for a day. From my understanding.

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Speaker 4: If it works like that, you know, call them up

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Speaker 4: say hey, this is what I need. If it's under recall,

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Speaker 4: they're supposed to make arrangements to have the cluster there.

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Speaker 2: Because there's three bulletins.

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Speaker 3: That I found on my suburban, and I imagine if

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Speaker 3: yours is under.

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Speaker 2: Recall, it's applicable too.

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Speaker 4: That says the spinometer cluster is being flashed at the

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Speaker 4: dealer level. Now it's just a matter of having the

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Speaker 4: parts brought in because GM does not want the customer

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Speaker 4: inconvenience and having the vehicle tied up and being the

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Speaker 4: exact situation that you're in. Right, So, I've got a

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Speaker 4: feeling that you're going to find that this is a

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Speaker 4: whole lot simpler operation than you think it to be.

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Speaker 6: Okay not. I saw something online about a kit for

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Speaker 6: replacing the stepper motors.

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Speaker 4: I have never done that, only because at it's not

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Speaker 4: something we do at the repair shop level. I would

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Speaker 4: be cautious just to find out where are the parts

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Speaker 4: coming from. It is probably cheaper to just have the

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Speaker 4: cluster exchanged.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm.

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Speaker 4: Gonna say an exchange cluster stand is probably in the

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Speaker 4: neighborhood of three, three and fifty dollars.

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Speaker 2: How much is the stepper motor?

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Speaker 6: Stepper motors are one hundred bucks for the whole kit.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and then the cluster has to come out, and

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Speaker 4: you've got a hope that you can do it without

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Speaker 4: breaking it.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question, what do you do

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Speaker 2: for a living?

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Speaker 6: I work for a gas company.

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: But are you are you handy with your hands?

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Speaker 2: Are you you know?

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Speaker 6: Are you an electronic service a service tech?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Then maybe you can the decision you've got to make

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Speaker 4: is that if you do hurt the clustering some way,

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Speaker 4: shape or form, there's a seven hundred and fifty dollars

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Speaker 4: core credit for the return of your old cluster if

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Speaker 4: you're doing an exchange.

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Speaker 3: So you're playing with a very valuable part.

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Speaker 2: So keep that in mind.

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Speaker 6: Very good, all right, Maybe I'll check and check on

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Speaker 6: the warranty first.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's you know, believe me, a cluster's instrument. Clusters

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Speaker 4: which is why they came up with the exchange program.

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Speaker 4: See if it's under recall, that would be my best

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Speaker 6: Okay, all right, sir, all right, thanks a lot.

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Speaker 2: You're very welcome, Ronning any and the car doctor.

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Speaker 4: We'll be back to talk to Mary about our oh

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Speaker 5: I've been everywhere, man, I've been everywhere. Man, cross the desert, man,

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Speaker 5: I read the mountain there, Man, I trave alive. I

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Speaker 4: Hey, hey, hey, welcome back. Run a name of the

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Speaker 4: card doctor, quick piece of card doctor. Email, Dear car doctor,

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Speaker 4: my friend Linda is the president of the.

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Speaker 3: Car Doctor fan club in North Jersey.

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Speaker 4: Look at that I have a fan club and she

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Speaker 3: I think she's kidding me all the time.

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Speaker 2: I'm not really quite sure.

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering if you could settle the dispute for us

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Speaker 3: on air one day.

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Speaker 2: Pat from kenel On.

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Speaker 3: New Jersey, Linda from North Jersey.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I know any you know what

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Speaker 4: I do know? A Linda from North Jersey. Yes, Pat,

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Speaker 4: there is a Santa Claus and yes, Pat, Linda from

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Speaker 4: North Jersey does know who I am.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: She was president of the fan club though, onetal kind

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Speaker 2: You gotta pay to get into that club.

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Speaker 4: Let's go over and talk to Mary Oh for Nissan

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Speaker 2: Hi, Mary, how can I help you?

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Speaker 4: Darling?

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Speaker 7: I read an article about a week's ago, okay, that

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Speaker 7: is supposed to use your handbrake and I never used

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Speaker 7: Nissan CenTra, right, and the article said that you have

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Speaker 7: to use your handbrake because you're doing damage to your

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Speaker 8: Of your car.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not that you're doing so much to hear.

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Speaker 2: Look at it like this.

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Speaker 4: Take your index finger on your right hand and bend

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Speaker 4: it into a hook. Now take your index finger and

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Speaker 3: Your thumb on your on your other hand. I will

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Speaker 3: so you make like a hole.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and now take the hook and put it inside

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Speaker 4: the hole and pull on it.

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Speaker 3: That is the similar type of setup.

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Speaker 4: That is the park pole mechanism for an automatic transmission.

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Speaker 4: That's what's holding that vehicle while you're parked on a

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Speaker 4: that finger, that little metal finger is having against the hole.

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Speaker 4: So what they're saying is you're straining the entire weight

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Speaker 2: So to speak you with me.

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Speaker 7: I don't park it on the hill.

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Speaker 4: Well, but that's why they're saying it. The article doesn't

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Speaker 4: in order to take the strain off of that index

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Speaker 4: that will help hold the vehicle instead of just the

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Speaker 2: That's the rationale.

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Speaker 7: If I'm leveled, I don't have to worry about the

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Speaker 7: I have to as a ups man to come and.

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Speaker 3: Really you're more than likely.

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Speaker 4: Fine, Mary, if you're parking on a hill, put it

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Speaker 4: you know, apply it. You know, count the clicks one, two, three, four, five.

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Speaker 2: Sixty seven.

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Speaker 4: If that's the maximum, maybe you can go to five

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Speaker 4: and five would probably do a good job of holding

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Speaker 4: it just as well too.

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Speaker 7: Oh, it's got clicks for you.

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Speaker 4: Right, listen to the right, listen to the handbrake when

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Speaker 4: you apply it. Okay, you should have a ratcheting mechanism

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Speaker 4: and you'll hear it click or ratchet, or if it's

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Speaker 4: a quiet parking break, get used to how far up

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Speaker 7: But if I'm a straight you know, like in my garaging,

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Speaker 2: To worry it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 7: Okay, all right, thanks, you're very welcome here.

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Speaker 2: You take good care.

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Speaker 4: Let's get over to Jack and Terry Tawn in New York. Jack,

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Speaker 4: you're on with the car doctor. How can I help you?

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Speaker 2: Sir?

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Speaker 8: Hey, Ron, thanks so much for taking my call. Welcome

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Speaker 8: Listen ninety four Torvis three point zho. I believe it's

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Speaker 8: OBD one. I'm having a problem starting this car. Extensive cranking,

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Speaker 8: Not even that. Yeah, okay, well it's doing that. But

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Speaker 8: here's the thing. After what I did is I took

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Speaker 8: see if it would fire and fired off. No, nothing,

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Speaker 8: same problem. However, when you run, when you crank and

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Speaker 8: thing to start. Once it's running, runs fine. I get

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Speaker 8: But the car runs fine on highway speeds. Find no problem.

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Speaker 8: The problem is once this thing sits a while, that's

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Speaker 8: It fires right up.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a fuel pressure gauge?

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Speaker 8: Jack, I'm gonna have to dig it out Ron. I

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Speaker 8: don't do this every day. I didn't think it was

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what, Like I always say, sometimes you

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Speaker 4: And I'd love to be able to cross fuel pressure

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Speaker 8: Well, I just one quick thing I have. I have

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Speaker 8: an Extron ninety one ninety I didn't I don't use

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Speaker 8: What do you? Where? Would I go to? The most

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Speaker 8: logical steps to take you?

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Speaker 4: First thing, if this were at the shop, Jack, first

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Speaker 4: thing I would do is throw the fuel pressure gauge

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Speaker 4: Watch fuel pressure? Does fuel pressure remain where it's supposed

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Speaker 2: And then once the engine is running.

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Speaker 4: Get a glass well we use We use glass Snapple bottles,

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Speaker 4: that's what we have around the shop. But you know,

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Speaker 4: we we will take a Snapple bottle while the engines running.

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Speaker 4: We'll dump the relief valve on the pressure gauge with

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Speaker 2: Bottle be filled in thirty seconds or less. And that's

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Speaker 4: If it fills a Snapple bottle in thirty seconds or less,

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Speaker 2: Pressure, guess what take it off the list. Okay, And

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Speaker 2: then at that point then we can talk about possible

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Speaker 4: Know, battery terminals being dirty and corroded. You may never

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Speaker 4: see a code on this car. You've got to get

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Speaker 4: good thing to go look for. But it still comes

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Speaker 4: back to the basics. And I can tell you're a

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Speaker 4: long time listener, Jack. We we just got to go

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Speaker 4: back to basics.

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Speaker 7: Run go ahead real quick.

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Speaker 8: When I'm on a highway, when I have I have plenty.

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Speaker 2: Of it runs fun.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. So what well.

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Speaker 4: Maybe the hard plastic veins of the fuel pump after

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Speaker 2: It's sort of like a some pump in your basement.

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Speaker 4: When when it sits in the dry season and then

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Speaker 4: in the wet season, sometimes it has a problem picking

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Speaker 8: How about with the east of it won't fire with

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Speaker 4: Kind of threw We do not enough volume, not enough there,

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Speaker 4: you know, listen, that's like, that's like we'll take cars

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Speaker 2: So we'll take a bottle of propane.

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Speaker 4: We take a propane bottle, we bend a piece of

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Speaker 4: and drive him into the bay.

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Speaker 4: Can't, and we're flowing a full bottle of propane so

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Speaker 4: bad you can smell it. It will make your choke and gag.

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Speaker 4: The car still won't fire. The car still has a

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Speaker 4: bad fuel pump. So you can't take starting fluid to heart.

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Speaker 2: It's not a.

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Speaker 4: Test, it's you know what it's to me, it's a

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Speaker 4: trick that you would use out in the If it works,

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Speaker 4: it works.

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Speaker 2: If it doesn't, it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: But reality comes back to let's go with facts, all right.

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Speaker 4: If you went to the doctor and you said, Doc,

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Speaker 4: I'm not feeling good, is he gonna smack your knee

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Speaker 4: with the little rubber hammer look for the reflex or

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Speaker 4: is he gonna run physical tests? You gotta run physical tests.

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Speaker 4: That's part of diagnosing fuel pressure. Get a spark tester,

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Speaker 4: quality of spark, and then cranking vacuum and we'll kind

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Speaker 4: of go from there. Give me a call back next

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Speaker 4: week for let me know what happens. Hey, Automotive Jeopardy

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Speaker 4: is coming up next. Are you smarter than Ron Ross?

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Speaker 4: We're gonna find out where Vegas stands right after this.

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Speaker 2: I'm ronin naming and the Card Doctor