WEBVTT - Self-Help Con Man

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<v Speaker 1>School of Humans.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what they say, those who can't do teach,

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<v Speaker 2>and those who can't even do.

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<v Speaker 1>That write self help books. That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to worry about failing in your career.

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<v Speaker 2>You can always become a life coach. I personally don't

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<v Speaker 2>read self help books, but I do ask read it

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of questions about my life. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>most sold self help books of all time is Think

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<v Speaker 2>and Grow Rich. It came out in nineteen thirty seven

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<v Speaker 2>and has sold over a bazillion copies. The actual number

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know, as it's likely to have been greatly exaggerated.

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<v Speaker 2>And how many of those people who read that book

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<v Speaker 2>became rich, probably very few. The gist of the advice

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<v Speaker 2>in the book is basically positive thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can think it, you can have it.

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<v Speaker 2>That involves having a lot of desire for something, having

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<v Speaker 2>faith in the process, positive self talk, imagining, intuition. If

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<v Speaker 2>you use all of those things, you can get rich.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's just take a moment to think and see

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<v Speaker 2>if we become rich. Are you guys thinking? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have more money now? I don't think I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well.

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<v Speaker 2>And even though most of its ideas are garbled, bullshit

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<v Speaker 2>and relatively ineffective. Think and Grow Rich is considered one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most influential books in the self help genre.

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<v Speaker 2>And the guy who wrote this book was named Napoleon Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you can believe it, Napoleon was top tier

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<v Speaker 2>American filth. He was a scammer, a cheater, temporarily part

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<v Speaker 2>of a cult, you know, definitely someone I would like

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<v Speaker 2>to take advice from. So let's get out of this

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<v Speaker 2>self help section and just look at Napoleon Hill's life

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<v Speaker 2>and see what lessons he can teach us on how

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<v Speaker 2>to live.

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<v Speaker 1>Cue the theme music.

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<v Speaker 2>This is American filth and I'm Gabby Watts. Every week

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you a filthy story from American history. This

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<v Speaker 2>week's episode self help con Man. So here's something you

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<v Speaker 2>might be dealing with that might make you turn to

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<v Speaker 2>self help. This is a question. Are you struggling with

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<v Speaker 2>getting people to take you seriously? Well, looking at Napoleon

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<v Speaker 2>Hill's life, you can follow this one simple step to

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<v Speaker 2>change that lie. That's right, Make stuff up about yourself

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<v Speaker 2>to make you seem more serious, more elite, more deserving

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<v Speaker 2>of sympathy, more interesting, more important, more worth someone's time.

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<v Speaker 2>Why just be yourself. That's embarrassing and won't get you anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>So Napoleon Hill was born in eighteen eighty three in Virginia,

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<v Speaker 2>and really he was born Oliver Napoleon Hill. He started

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<v Speaker 2>going by Napoleon later in life. Napoleon described his family

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<v Speaker 2>as three generations of quote, ignorance, illiteracy, and poverty. And

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<v Speaker 2>who can't empathize or sympathize with a woe as me tale.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone who came from such a dire and tough background

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<v Speaker 2>definitely deserves to be taken seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>And you see here is where Napoleon Hill did something

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<v Speaker 1>very important.

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<v Speaker 2>He lied because the Hill family was not ignorant, illiterate,

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<v Speaker 2>or that poor. The family was actually pretty well educated.

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<v Speaker 2>Like his grandfather was a printer, and if I'm being honest,

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be really hard to be.

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<v Speaker 1>A printer if you were illiterate.

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<v Speaker 2>Napoleon's dad was a dentist. Granted he was an illegal dentist.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't have a license, but he eventually got one

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<v Speaker 2>at the age of forty after authorities were like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>You unless you become legit.

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<v Speaker 2>And who knows, maybe it's because of this dentistry deception

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<v Speaker 2>that Napoleon Hill himself got into scamming later in his life.

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<v Speaker 1>Dads teach all the good lessons.

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<v Speaker 2>Napoleon's mom died when he was around nine years old,

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<v Speaker 2>which that it's sad and can you know, cause some trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>But it seems that his stepmom was a very positive force.

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<v Speaker 2>In his life. She was like, hey, Napoleon, you need

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<v Speaker 2>to get your act together. You need to go to school,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to go to church. And she also bought

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<v Speaker 2>him a typewriter. She was like, Napoleon, if you can write,

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<v Speaker 2>the world is your oyster. So clearly Napoleon's family wasn't ignorant, illiterate,

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<v Speaker 2>or really in poverty. They were actually kind of well off, supportive,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the best for him. But that's not

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting story. That doesn't capture the American dream where

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<v Speaker 2>you start from the bottom and end up at the top. Napoleon,

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<v Speaker 2>he was in the middle. That's not compelling. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to take that seriously. The only self help writer

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to take seriously is one who has struggled

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<v Speaker 2>and persevered. So anyway, if you want people to take

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<v Speaker 2>you more seriously, just lie about who you are and

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<v Speaker 2>where you come from. Another thing you can do to

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<v Speaker 2>be taken seriously is to be in the right place

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<v Speaker 2>at the right time and cover up a murder. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>what happened. Right after college. Napoleon got a job working

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<v Speaker 2>as the assistant to a lawyer, and this lawyer owned

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<v Speaker 2>some coal mines. One night, the manager of the coal

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<v Speaker 2>mine got drunk and shot a black bell hop allegedly accidentally.

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<v Speaker 2>Napoleon's boss was out of town, so Napoleon went to

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<v Speaker 2>the scene of the crime and it is like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to take responsibility for this situation, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to cover up the murder so that nobody, including my boss,

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<v Speaker 2>will look bad. And then when his boss came back,

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<v Speaker 2>Napoleon was like, hey, I covered up this murder for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody knows about it. It's totally chilling cool. And his

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<v Speaker 2>boss was like, oh my god, that's such great work.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to promote you. So Napoleon took that drunk

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<v Speaker 2>guy's job and became the manager of a coal mine.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, he was only nineteen years old. But

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately for Napoleon, he had a huge head, huge ego,

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<v Speaker 2>and being the manager of a coal mine was still

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<v Speaker 2>not good enough for him. And that leads us to

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<v Speaker 2>another self help question, how can I make a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money without actually having a job.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as Napoleon Hill's life will show us.

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<v Speaker 2>You should probably just get a job. Because he started

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of schemes, a lot of scams that failed.

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<v Speaker 2>But Napoleon Hill, he thought he was destined for great

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<v Speaker 2>things in his life, so he wasn't just going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a low life employee. He wanted to own a business,

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<v Speaker 2>be rich, be renowned. So what he did was moved

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<v Speaker 2>to Mobile, Alabama in nineteen oh seven, because we all

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<v Speaker 2>know that Alabama is the best place to make money.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's always like, if you want to be famous, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to be rich, if you want to be notable,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to move down to Mobile, Alabama. What he

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<v Speaker 2>was doing down there is he developed a scheme. He

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<v Speaker 2>was buying lumber on credit and then he would sell

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<v Speaker 2>it to other people at a reduced rate and then

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<v Speaker 2>just not pay back his credit. The people buying the

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<v Speaker 2>lumber from him were like, Wow, this is a great deal. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>the people he had bought the lumber from were like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to pay us back. But unfortunately for Napoleon Hill,

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<v Speaker 2>his scheme did not work out. Eventually a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>people were after him. He was bankrupt. He was also

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<v Speaker 2>facing mail fraud charges. He had to pay back his creditors,

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<v Speaker 2>but instead of doing that, he fled.

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<v Speaker 1>But you guys know what they say.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can do mail fraud and mobile Alabama, you

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<v Speaker 2>can do it anywhere. It's unclear how he evaded authorities

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<v Speaker 2>and his creditors, but by nineteen oh eight he was

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<v Speaker 2>living in Washington, d c. And this is officially when

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<v Speaker 2>he changed his name to Napoleon Hill instead of Oliver. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>he might say it was an esthetic change, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was trying to be a new person, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was probably a way to deceive the law so they

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't find him and throw him in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>When he got to DC, he picked.

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<v Speaker 2>Up his typewriter and started writing articles about successful people.

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<v Speaker 1>But unfortunately he wasn't making enough money.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was like, I guess I got to do

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<v Speaker 2>another scheme because having a normal job is out of

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<v Speaker 2>the question.

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<v Speaker 1>This time, he started a scam in.

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<v Speaker 2>The field of education, which he would do time and

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<v Speaker 2>time again throughout his life. What he did is he

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<v Speaker 2>started this education program where people were learning how to

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<v Speaker 2>repair cars. But really what was happening is he was

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<v Speaker 2>just using these people to assemble and repair cars and

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<v Speaker 2>not pay them because look, they're learning, it's education. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like an unpaid internship, and Napoleon got all of

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<v Speaker 2>the profits from their labor. But unfortunately this scheme did

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<v Speaker 2>not last long, so he pivoted. He was like, instead

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<v Speaker 2>of doing that where I get people to assemble cars,

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm going to do is I'm going to promise

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<v Speaker 2>students that I'm going to teach them how.

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<v Speaker 1>To sell cars.

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<v Speaker 2>But really what happened is that he set it up

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like a multi level marketing scheme where he

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<v Speaker 2>got people to sign up and then got those people

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<v Speaker 2>to get other people to sign up, but they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>ever actually learn anything, and Napoleon again got all of

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<v Speaker 2>their money.

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<v Speaker 1>Through these schemes.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, people were accusing him of fraud, and so he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, no, what I'm going to do now, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to move to Chicago. When he got to Chicago,

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<v Speaker 2>he did try to do a legal business. He and

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<v Speaker 2>a couple partners opened a candy store, but very quickly

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<v Speaker 2>after starting that business, his partners were like, Hey, get

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck out of this business. You're so annoying and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know how to do anything. I imagine Napoleon

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<v Speaker 2>was also trying to scam them in some way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's conjecture, but I feel like it's kind of evidence

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<v Speaker 2>based based on his past behavior. Isn't this someone you

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<v Speaker 2>really want to take advice from? Good thing he got

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<v Speaker 2>into self help because if he didn't get into self help,

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<v Speaker 2>he kind of has the qualifications of being the president

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States, get it, because Trump's also a

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<v Speaker 2>con artist. Just kidding, guys, this is a bipartisan podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We have no opinions on it.

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<v Speaker 2>So after the candy shot failed, he went back to

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<v Speaker 2>his education model. Throughout these years of scheming and planning,

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<v Speaker 2>something he is good at is marketing himself. He's good

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<v Speaker 2>at convincing people he's legit when he's not. And so

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, who else does that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>People in advertising. So he started an institute of advertising

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<v Speaker 2>where he was like, I'm going to teach people how

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<v Speaker 2>to be confident and sell stuff, Like, yeah, I could see.

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<v Speaker 1>How you could make money off of that.

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<v Speaker 2>People love a nice little lecture about how to believe

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<v Speaker 2>in themselves. But of course Napoleon had a scheme behind this.

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<v Speaker 1>As well.

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<v Speaker 2>What he did at the institute is that he valued

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<v Speaker 2>it at one hundred thousand dollars and then got the

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<v Speaker 2>students to buy stocks. But the thing is the school

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<v Speaker 2>was actually only valued at twelve hundred dollars, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he just kept all of that money. It's honestly insane

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<v Speaker 2>how many schemes he had. It's just like bruh, Like

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<v Speaker 2>can't you just write or pull down a job or something.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really insane because over the next few years he

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<v Speaker 2>did even more fraudulent advertising and committed mail fraud and

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<v Speaker 2>just did all sorts of terrible things.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he started a charity where he said, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>If you donate to it, we'll give that money to veterans,

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<v Speaker 2>but really he just took all that money and put

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<v Speaker 2>it in oil stocks. Then he had another charity where

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<v Speaker 2>he said, oh, if you give me money, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to send educational supplies to people in prison. But can

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<v Speaker 2>you believe it, he was just pocketing that money for himself.

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<v Speaker 2>And even as he did all these scams and all

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<v Speaker 2>these schemes, he never had that much money. And I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I keep saying the thing of like, oh, he's a

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<v Speaker 2>just good job, which sounds very boomer of me, but

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<v Speaker 2>still like these scams weren't working out for him. He'd

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<v Speaker 2>get the money, then he'd lose it, or he'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to pay legal fees, and he had to travel a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess he thought one day, through one of

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<v Speaker 2>these schemes, he'd make.

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<v Speaker 1>It big, so it'd all be worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>As napoy and Hill was running amuck doing all of

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<v Speaker 2>these scams and schemes, he was still manufacturing an identity

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<v Speaker 2>to make himself look more notable throughout these couple decades

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<v Speaker 2>after he went to college to before he became a

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<v Speaker 2>successful self help writer.

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<v Speaker 1>Said that he met all.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorts of rich and talented people, who in turn thought

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<v Speaker 2>he was also a rich and talented person. Unfortunately for him,

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<v Speaker 2>there is absolutely no proof that he met any of

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<v Speaker 2>these people, according to Napoleon Hill, though he says, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>all the records of me meeting these people unfortunately got

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<v Speaker 2>burned up in this fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Ugh, that's so annoying. Sorry, I can't prove it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I did meet these people.

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<v Speaker 2>The only evidence that he met a famous person was

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<v Speaker 2>there's a photograph of him and Thomas Edison. Edison looks

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<v Speaker 2>annoyed Napoleon Hill is standing next to him, awkwardly close,

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<v Speaker 2>just staring at him. And apparently this photo was taken

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<v Speaker 2>after Napoleon had given Thomas Edison an award, an award

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<v Speaker 2>that Napoleon had created through his magazine, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>used as an excuse for him to meet people, being like, oh, hello,

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<v Speaker 2>famous person, here's an award I'm giving you. According to

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<v Speaker 2>some newspaper reports, Thomas Edison declined the award. Another person

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<v Speaker 2>that Napoleon Hill claimed to meet was none other than

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<v Speaker 2>President Woodrow Wilson, and they met during World War One.

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<v Speaker 2>Napoleon claimed that Woodrow Wilson had reached out to him

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<v Speaker 2>to get his perspective and his advice on the war,

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<v Speaker 2>and also to go sign the armistice with Germany. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>apparently Napoleon Hill is so notable that Woodrow Wilson was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I need you to finish this war.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that believable? Later on, Napoleon.

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<v Speaker 2>Hill also claimed that he had met FDR and he

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<v Speaker 2>said it was actually himself who had come up with

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<v Speaker 2>the iconic phrase the only thing we have to fear

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<v Speaker 2>a spear itself. Unfortunately for Napoleon, though the White House

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<v Speaker 2>has explicitly said that there are no records at all

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<v Speaker 2>of Napoleon Hill ever meeting FDR, Woodrow Wilson or any president.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, I think we can learn a lesson

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<v Speaker 2>from Napoleon Hill, which is, if you're trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>up fun tidbits about your life, maybe don't go so

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<v Speaker 2>far as to say that you're the advisor to the president.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you want to stay believable, maybe just

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<v Speaker 2>have some like lower tier people that you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>at this point he does kind of sound like a lunatic.

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<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't his fictitious meeting with Woodrow Wilson or

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<v Speaker 2>FDR that was central to Napoleon Hill's life. No, it

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<v Speaker 2>was in nineteen oh eight, right after he had fled Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when he claimed he met Andrew Carnegie, who at

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<v Speaker 2>the time was the richest man in the world. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was this alleged conversation with Andrew Carnegie that would

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<v Speaker 2>lead to his self help rise to fame because, according

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<v Speaker 2>to Napoleon Hill, Andrew Carnegie gave him a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>advice on how to think and how to get rich,

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<v Speaker 2>and then also introduce Napoleon to all these other successful

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<v Speaker 2>people who he interviewed so he could write his book,

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<v Speaker 2>Think and Grow Rich. But again, there is no evidence

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<v Speaker 2>that this conversation with Andrew Carnegie ever happened. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Napoleon would say it's because all of the documents got

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<v Speaker 2>burnt up in that fire, and Carnegie would say it's

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<v Speaker 2>because he has no idea who the hell that guy is.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we get to his breakthrough, here's another question

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<v Speaker 2>you might consult to self help book for how can

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<v Speaker 2>I have a successful marriage? Well, let's look at Napoleon

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<v Speaker 2>Hill's life once again to answer this question. And if

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<v Speaker 2>we do that, it looks like the answer is you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>It is literally impossible to have a successful marriage. Most

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<v Speaker 2>official Napoleon Hill biographers basically the Napole Hill simps. They

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<v Speaker 2>say that he was married three times, but actually it

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<v Speaker 2>was probably more like five.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time he.

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<v Speaker 2>Got married was when he was fifteen. He married another

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<v Speaker 2>teenager who had accused him of fathering her child. But

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<v Speaker 2>after they got married, she was like, oh, actually, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just kidding. That didn't happen. This is someone else's kid,

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<v Speaker 2>So the marriage was a nult. The next marriage was

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<v Speaker 2>to this woman named Edith Whitman. They got married in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen oh three. In this relationship, Napoleon was super abusive

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<v Speaker 2>and a huge pile of garbage.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a daughter together, and oh boy, was he

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<v Speaker 1>a bad dad.

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<v Speaker 2>On several occasions, he threw his toddler daughter to the

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<v Speaker 2>floor and hit Edith, even choking her. There was also

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<v Speaker 2>a time when he took their daughter away from Edith

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<v Speaker 2>and said she couldn't have her back. Edith eventually was

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<v Speaker 2>able to get her daughter back and filed for divorce.

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<v Speaker 2>This happened when Napoleon was in Alabama doing his lumber schemes,

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<v Speaker 2>and while he was down there, he started visiting houses

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<v Speaker 2>of ill repute aka cornicating with prostitutes. In nineteen oh a,

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<v Speaker 2>when Edith filed her divorce, Napoleon never showed up in court,

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<v Speaker 2>effectively abandoning his wife and his daughter, probably for the best,

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<v Speaker 2>and starting his new life in DC as Napoleon the

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<v Speaker 2>writer who was single, but don't worry. With his lies

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<v Speaker 2>and deceit, he was quickly able to find another wife.

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<v Speaker 2>He married this lady named Florence Elizabeth Horner in nineteen ten,

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<v Speaker 2>and by lady, I mean they met when she was

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<v Speaker 2>still in high school and they got married in a

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<v Speaker 2>rush literally three months after they met. Over the course

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<v Speaker 2>of their marriage, they had three sons. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>kids was born deaf. Napoleon believed he could fix this,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he never allowed his son to learn sign

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<v Speaker 2>language and was like, Hey, even though he's deaf, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to teach him how to hear

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<v Speaker 2>and how to speak. Yes, you can just will someone

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<v Speaker 2>to start hearing, because that's the power of positive thinking. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>his son remained deaf. His wife, Florence, came from a

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<v Speaker 2>well off family, and early in their marriage her family

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<v Speaker 2>actually invested in several of his schemes, but over time

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<v Speaker 2>they realized how much of a con man he was

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<v Speaker 2>and how he was just losing and wasting all of

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<v Speaker 2>their money. For most of their marriage, Florence and Napoleon

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<v Speaker 2>lived separately. Napoleon was always off doing his scams, and

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<v Speaker 2>she would say with her family in West Virginia. He

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<v Speaker 2>would only visit her and his kids when he wanted money,

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<v Speaker 2>which her family was more and more hesitant to give

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<v Speaker 2>him because they were sick of his shit. But in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenty eight, it seemed that everything was going to

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<v Speaker 2>turn around because Napoleon Hill finally found the publisher. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be right back after these soothing advertisements. So Napoleon Hill,

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<v Speaker 2>while he'd been doing his schemes and his scams and

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<v Speaker 2>all that jazz he was writing, he had magazines. He

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<v Speaker 2>wrote those profiles about inspirational successful people. During this time

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<v Speaker 2>he had also written an eight volume work called The.

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<v Speaker 1>Law of Success.

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<v Speaker 2>In it, he described fifteen principles of success. A definite

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<v Speaker 2>chief aim, self confidence, habit of saving, initiative, and leadership. Imagination.

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<v Speaker 2>Of those things, he most definitely had imagination. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was a long road to publishing, first of all, because

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<v Speaker 2>these books that he wrote are actually quite bad. They're

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<v Speaker 2>pretty messy, they don't make that much sense. But Napoleon

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<v Speaker 2>said he did have an interested publisher. His name was

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Mellett, and he was a newspaper publisher in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>Mellett was known for going after game and also police corruption,

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<v Speaker 2>and according to Napoleon, he was very interested in publishing

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<v Speaker 2>self help books. However, right before the contract was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be signed, right before Napoleon was supposed to get

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<v Speaker 2>his cash to publish the books, Mellet was murdered, perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>by some gang members or even by some police officers,

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<v Speaker 2>Napoleon was convinced that he was next. Obviously he was

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<v Speaker 2>friends with Mellet, so the gangs are going to come

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<v Speaker 2>after him because he's so important. The gangs don't want

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<v Speaker 2>those self help volumes coming out, so Napoleon went into

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<v Speaker 2>hiding because he was for sure a target. Well, Napoleon

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<v Speaker 2>very quickly came out of hiding, and he was bereft

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<v Speaker 2>because he didn't have a publisher.

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<v Speaker 1>He had burned most.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the bridges in his life and so he was

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<v Speaker 2>reduced to cold calling. But he did find this one

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<v Speaker 2>publisher who was really into self help, who was going

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<v Speaker 2>to self help Napoleon, and by that I mean publish

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<v Speaker 2>his freakin' books. The publisher was Andrew Pelton. He loved

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<v Speaker 2>a self help which was really having a moment in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen twenties, and so Napoleon cold called him, was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I have this series of books that I wrote about

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<v Speaker 2>self confidence and how to be successful.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you might like them.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Pelton had no idea who he was, but agreed

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<v Speaker 2>to me with him in Philadelphia. Now, Napoleon, who at

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<v Speaker 2>the time was extremely broke estranged from his family, he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I need to look like I'm rich and

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<v Speaker 2>successful so that I can get this guy to publish

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<v Speaker 2>these books about being successful. So what he did is

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<v Speaker 2>he approached one of Florence's brothers and was like, can

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<v Speaker 2>you give me some money? And he was like, okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>go away now. And so Napoleon got a swanky hotel

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<v Speaker 2>room in Philadelphia and kept acting like he was the

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<v Speaker 2>richest guy ever. He was overtipping everybody. He would just

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<v Speaker 2>pull out a roll of cash, being like, look, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the richest, most successful guy in the world. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I wrote these books about success. But he tricked Pelton.

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<v Speaker 2>Pelton's all of that and was like, damn, this guy

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<v Speaker 2>knows what he's talking about. I better publish his eight

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<v Speaker 2>volume work, The Law of Success. And weirdly enough, the

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<v Speaker 2>book was a whopping success. Napoleon had finally done it.

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<v Speaker 2>He was making something that made money and wasn't completely

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<v Speaker 2>a scam. I mean, the advice was a scam because

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't know what he was talking about, obviously, but

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<v Speaker 2>the royalty started coming in. He was making twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars a month. At this point, he and Florence

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<v Speaker 2>and his three sons rekindled their family Napoleon bought a

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<v Speaker 2>big house and property in the Catskills.

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<v Speaker 1>He bought a rolls Royce. He was living large so.

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<v Speaker 2>Charge that it was more than he was making off

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<v Speaker 2>of the books. But unfortunately, not only was Napoleon Hill

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<v Speaker 2>spending too much money, it was nineteen twenty nine and

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<v Speaker 2>the stock market crashed and Napoleon Hill was completely broke

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<v Speaker 2>again and so again he had to plead with his

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<v Speaker 2>wife to give him some money from her family. They

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<v Speaker 2>lost the house she and her family had to pay

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<v Speaker 2>for all of their expenses. In the early thirties, he

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<v Speaker 2>published another book that was a commercial failure, so he

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<v Speaker 2>had to go back to scheming and scamming, but nothing

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<v Speaker 2>paid off, so in nineteen thirty five he and Florence

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<v Speaker 2>got divorced because he was a freaking loser who had

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<v Speaker 2>scammed her family and had abandoned his wife and his kids,

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<v Speaker 2>only appearing when he needed money. But two years later

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<v Speaker 2>Napoleon Hill wrote his Open Think and Grow Rich. The

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<v Speaker 2>reason this book was more successful than The Laws of

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<v Speaker 2>Success is because he.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't really write it.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a lot of the ideas behind it, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was actually his new wife, a twenty nine year

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<v Speaker 2>old named Rosalie Beelnd, who can be credited for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the book's success. They met soon after his

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<v Speaker 2>divorce from Florence. She was twenty nine years old, he

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<v Speaker 2>was fifty three. She went to one of his lectures

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<v Speaker 2>and afterwards talked to him for five hours, and then

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<v Speaker 2>within forty eight hours of them knowing each other, they

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<v Speaker 2>got engaged. But Napoleon and Rosalie they didn't have any money,

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<v Speaker 2>So what ended up happening is they moved in with

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<v Speaker 2>one of Napoleon's sons who was living in a small

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<v Speaker 2>apartment in New York City. The apartment was cramped and

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<v Speaker 2>his son's wife hated him and Rosalie. The son's wife

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<v Speaker 2>moved out and eventually divorced the Sun. The Sun also

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<v Speaker 2>fled the apartment and left his dad three hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>because he had no other money. But Rosalie and Napoleon

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<v Speaker 2>were undeterred by being pieces of shit, so they started

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<v Speaker 2>on a book. Rosa typed up and significantly edited the

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<v Speaker 2>book to make sense, because that was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>main issues with Napoleon's writing.

0:27:29.325 --> 0:27:31.005
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't good or coherent.

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<v Speaker 2>They approached Pelton with the book and he was like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the Great Depression.

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<v Speaker 1>People aren't really like buying books right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, the self help movement kind of feels at its end.

0:27:42.725 --> 0:27:46.685
<v Speaker 2>But Napoleon pressed him and he did it, and oh boy,

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<v Speaker 2>think and grow rich started flying off the shelves. One

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<v Speaker 2>reason is, you know, yes, this was during the depression.

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<v Speaker 2>People didn't have that much money to spend, but they

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<v Speaker 2>were obviously also eager to figure out how to make money,

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<v Speaker 2>and voila a solution. They could just think and grow rich. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, Napoleon and Rosalie became super rich.

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<v Speaker 1>They made a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, while they made money, Napoleon was good at

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<v Speaker 2>spending more than he ever made. They bought a mansion

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida, bought all the newest luxuries, but they never

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<v Speaker 2>did for pay Napoleon's son back the three hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>What a great guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they were spending so much money though it was

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<v Speaker 2>running out, and a couple of years they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, we need even more money now to maintain

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<v Speaker 2>our lavish lifestyle in this mansion in Florida. So they

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<v Speaker 2>decided to do this weird media stunt to get more attention.

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<v Speaker 2>They were interviewed by a newspaper, and they told the

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<v Speaker 2>paper that they were going to adopt fifteen children and

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<v Speaker 2>raise them away from the corruption of the world and

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<v Speaker 2>make them perfect beings by showing them the right way

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<v Speaker 2>to think, so they could get rich and be great,

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<v Speaker 2>to basically be angels on earth. They're like, yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>we raise them in isolation, they're going to be awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to show them how to think and be powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, this sounds absolutely bonkers. And they never did

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<v Speaker 2>end up adopting any children, but some friends of the Hills,

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<v Speaker 2>who were the leaders of a religious cult, actually did

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<v Speaker 2>do something like this. They wanted to raise a baby

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<v Speaker 2>who had such extraordinary power of thinking that the baby

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<v Speaker 2>would become immortal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, an immortal.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby just through positive thinking. Well I'm going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to Napoleon and Rosalie. So while their finances were dwindling,

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<v Speaker 2>Rosalie decided to write a book of her own. She

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<v Speaker 2>called it How to Attract Men and Money. Napoleon wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>ashamed of this. He was like, Yeah, that's awesome that

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<v Speaker 2>she's writing that, and he actually contributed a bit to

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<v Speaker 2>the book.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, I scheme she schemes.

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<v Speaker 2>We all scheme, and that's fine. But for Napoleon, he's

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<v Speaker 2>about to be out schemed. Perhaps he met his match

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<v Speaker 2>in Rosa Lee, because before they had gotten married, they

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<v Speaker 2>signed a prenup that said all the royalties from the

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<v Speaker 2>book would go to Rosa Lee. At the time, Napoleon

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, that makes sense, because my ex wife

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<v Speaker 2>and kids they want my money. And also all these

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<v Speaker 2>people who have tried to sue me for my scams

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<v Speaker 2>they want my money. So if Rosa Lee has the money,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not my money, so they can't take it. And

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<v Speaker 2>that will be fine because we're married, we're happy. But

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<v Speaker 2>after Rosalie published her book, she got a divorce from Napoleon.

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<v Speaker 1>She suspected that.

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<v Speaker 2>He had been fraternizing with women of ill repute, which

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<v Speaker 2>she was probably correct, and so what she did is

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<v Speaker 2>she fled their Florida home and sold off all of

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<v Speaker 2>his stuff and the divorce. With that prenup, she took

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<v Speaker 2>all of his money, and then what she did is

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<v Speaker 2>she married her divorce lawyer. Honestly, it's pretty hard to

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<v Speaker 2>feel bad for Napoleon, but it really does seem that

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<v Speaker 2>Napoleon and Rosalie were the perfect match, both deceitful pieces

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<v Speaker 2>as shit. So by nineteen forty Napoleon was broke and

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<v Speaker 2>alone again, and after thinking grow rich his big smash,

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<v Speaker 2>he never wrote another hit. He wrote one book that

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<v Speaker 2>he claimed Mahatma Gandhi really liked, and he was like, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm going to go to India and do a tour.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so important over there. Gandhi loves me. He never

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<v Speaker 2>did that, nor did Gandhi ever say that. But he

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<v Speaker 2>got married again in nineteen forty three to a woman

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<v Speaker 2>named Annie Lou Norman.

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<v Speaker 1>His fifth wife.

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<v Speaker 2>She was actually his landlady, and I suppose he seduced

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<v Speaker 2>her by being like, wow, I tore around, I give lectures,

0:32:04.805 --> 0:32:06.405
<v Speaker 2>I write in a magazine.

0:32:06.445 --> 0:32:09.085
<v Speaker 1>I'm so notable. Look at these books that I've written.

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<v Speaker 2>And after they got married, for reasons unknown really, they

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<v Speaker 2>moved to California, and there Napoleon started scamming again.

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<v Speaker 1>In California, though his.

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<v Speaker 2>Schemes weren't working, so he went out to this small

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<v Speaker 2>town in Missouri being like, I'm gonna teach you guys

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<v Speaker 2>how to be successful again, another education scam, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were all like, you're full of shit, Go away. They

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<v Speaker 2>saw him as a fraud pretty quickly, and that seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to be happening.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Napoleon was losing his touch. He wasn't able to trick

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<v Speaker 2>people as easily. His last big scheme was he teamed

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<v Speaker 2>up with this guy who worked in insurance to create

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<v Speaker 2>a magazine called Success Unlimited.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only was it a magazine, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Also sold courses and tools for success. And they said

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<v Speaker 2>it was a charity because Napoleon would be lecturing the poor,

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<v Speaker 2>but really it was just a business and if you

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<v Speaker 2>can believe it, this one also didn't work. The insurance

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<v Speaker 2>guy went on to make millions of dollars doing other stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but Napoleon was left in the dust with hardly any money,

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<v Speaker 2>and his health was failing rapidly. He died in nineteen seventy.

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<v Speaker 2>He himself was pretty poor, but while he'd been alive,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd started the Napoleon Hill Foundation, which held the rights

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<v Speaker 2>to his books and what little royalties he had left.

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<v Speaker 2>And when he died, his wife, Annie Lou sued for

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<v Speaker 2>control of the rights to his books, and she was

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<v Speaker 2>able to scrape away as much money as she could

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<v Speaker 2>from the Napoleon Hill Foundation. It's funny because When you

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<v Speaker 2>look at most of the stuff about Napoleon Hill online,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of it's from the Napoleon Hill Foundation, who

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<v Speaker 2>have published biographies about him, talking about how amazing he was,

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<v Speaker 2>how shrewd he was, how he was a great businessman.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you look just slightly below the surface, as

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<v Speaker 2>we have in this episode, you'll see that he really

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<v Speaker 2>didn't seem to have any skills. He did a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of schemes and really none of them were successful for

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<v Speaker 2>very long, and he seemed like an all around not

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<v Speaker 2>nice person. But a lot of people today do cite

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<v Speaker 2>Napoleon Hill as an influence, including this guy named Norman

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<v Speaker 2>Vincent Peel who was a pastor he loved Napoleon Hill,

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<v Speaker 2>and guests who grew up in his church, Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>In every episode of American Filth, we learn a lesson.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the lesson we learn here is we can

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<v Speaker 2>all be successful self help book writers, even if we

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<v Speaker 2>have nothing to share. Just make it up, Just think

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<v Speaker 2>and write a self help book. Cue the credits. American

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<v Speaker 2>Field is a production of School of Humans and iHeart Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode was written and produced and hosted by me

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<v Speaker 2>Gabby Wats. Our theme song is by Jesse Niswanger. Our

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