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Speaker 1: If you listen to this show for a long time,

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Speaker 1: then you probably realize one sinister fact about human civilization.

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Speaker 1: A lot of skeletons are not where they're supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: Where are they supposed to be in the ground mainly? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: an a line box? Yeah, resting comfortably. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: you see those legends about crystal skulls. You see these

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Speaker 1: allegations of ancient, non human or extra terrestrial remains in

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Speaker 1: this episode, and the three of us ask what gives?

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Speaker 1: What are the strangest cases of this? And is it

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Speaker 1: possible to separate fact from fiction? Ooh, and note this

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Speaker 1: episode came out in January of twenty eighteen. From UFOs

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Speaker 1: to Psychic Powers and government Conspiracies, History is old with

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Speaker 1: unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn this

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Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know. Hello, and welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the show. My name is Max, my name

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Speaker 1: is no old baby skeletons bround. They call me Ben.

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Speaker 1: We are with our super producer Paul Decant, and you

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Speaker 1: are you that makes this stuff they don't want you

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Speaker 1: to know. Let's get morbid from the jump. Why I

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Speaker 1: was trying to do that with my nick preface. I

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Speaker 1: like it. I like it. I think it's a good nickname. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. It'll hit you sometimes. We don't

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Speaker 1: know what environment you find yourself in while you're listening

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Speaker 1: to this, but if there are other people around, take

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Speaker 1: are you know, essentially they're They're like their flesh and

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Speaker 1: It's all like painting over a house, and that house

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Speaker 1: skeleton smugglers. And then really, the next time you talk

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Speaker 1: I promise it won't get weird. You'll be fine. The

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Speaker 1: are building a very strange skeleton, and that's good because

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Speaker 1: that pertains to this episode. Right, we've examined stories of

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Speaker 1: strange cadavers and ancient artifacts, and past episodes and long

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Speaker 1: time listeners, you may recall the work we've done on

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Speaker 1: legends of Giants, allegations of alien artifacts, and lost civilizations, right,

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Speaker 1: multiple times, No one, don't forget the video series on

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Speaker 1: early Man, Dennis Ovans, Neanderthal's Hobbits, and so on. We've

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Speaker 1: covered a lot of this stuff in the past, even aliens. Oh,

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Speaker 1: no way, not us a couple of times. Well, today

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Speaker 1: out there are a lot of bizarre skeleton stories to

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Speaker 1: grizzly grabby bag, a grim golgotha which does the etymologically

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Speaker 1: that word originally meant place of bones, a place of skulls. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: is that where Goth comes from, and that's probably the Visigoths.

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Speaker 1: Bella Legosie's dead, and that's all I know. That's very true.

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Speaker 1: And like Bella Legosie, many artifacts also have some sort

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Speaker 1: But today we ask how many of these are mere legends,

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Speaker 1: evidence we have to actually work with. Not every skeleton

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Speaker 1: But would you would you get one of those? Or

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Speaker 1: I'd have some taxic I mean, oh, you ever do

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Speaker 1: constructing this thing with tools available to them, and imagine

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00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: having that in that time, having like actually holding that

423
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: crystal skull in a time when you know, the most

424
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: advanced technologies are fire in hand tools. I mean, pretty

425
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. Actually that's not true. There's all kinds of

426
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: other technologies that exist at a time, but nothing very advanced,

427
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: and having in something like that in your hands would

428
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: be so mystical. Did you you know? I agree? Did

429
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: you guys ever hear this? This has haunted me from

430
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: schooling days. I heard back when I was a wee

431
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: tyke that no meso American culture had invented the wheel

432
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: when they were encountering other cultures. I find that a

433
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: little hard to believe. Did you guys ever hear that? No?

434
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: No, no no, I'd have to get into that. I don't know,

435
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: but that's I'm trying to imagine building the structures they

436
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: built without any kind of system like that. But I guess,

437
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: you know, okay, possible because it feels incorrect to me.

438
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: And it's weird that when I was a kid, a

439
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,239
Speaker 1: teacher told me that, Yeah, teachers have told me a

440
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: lot of things, especially in middle school, that I've come

441
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: to find. No, no, no, no, what did they tell

442
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: you about the Paracas skulls? Well, I had one teacher

443
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: told me about them. We're just gonna call her missus Bliss,

444
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: miss Bliss uh from like a Judy Bloom book or something.

445
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure that saved by the bell.

446
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: But they were found. Did you see Paul getting ready?

447
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: He was not going to let that slide um, So, okay,

448
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: the Paracas skulls were found in Peru. They created all

449
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: kinds of waves throughout the internets in the world. In

450
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, after this geneticist undertook the preliminary or like

451
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: the first DNA testing on these and he reported some

452
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: unknown results. And this was reported by a gentleman calls

453
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: himself Brian Forrester, and that his name because that's what

454
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: his parents called him or who you know, whoever named him,

455
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: and so he allegedly found these skulls had mitochondrial DNA

456
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: with mutations unknown in any human primate or animal known.

457
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: So farm well that that turned out not to be

458
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: the case at all. The story about mystery DNA simply

459
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: didn't hold up to some more cursory examination. Yeah, that's

460
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: the thing. So a lot of people were skeptical when

461
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: Forster introduced these claims because he had a reputation the

462
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: scientific community as being somewhat unreliable, Yes, or a bit

463
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: of a sensationalist. To be clear, neither Matt nor Noll

464
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: or I have spoken with Forster. No, we should say

465
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: that these skulls in question, these process skulls, they they're elongated. Okay,

466
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: so they do look strange. If you're looking at one

467
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: of these, it the top of the skull from essentially

468
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: the eyes upward goes out into a cone. It's a

469
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: cone head. It's a yeah, it's a conical shape. It's

470
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: similar in some ways to the way you see a

471
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: gorilla's head. The Simian shape of it goes up at

472
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: the back, but even further and more point cone headed

473
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: and lean him back, it does not the cone heads.

474
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: But but maybe that's an homage. Maybe that's what dan

475
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: Ackroyd was really going for, you know, perhaps that is

476
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, he's our type of person. He's a full

477
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: time uphologist now or well he's heavily interested, yes, yes,

478
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: so yeah, okay, So they said that the DNA is

479
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: screwy and not entirely human. The problem with this, and

480
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: this is a totally understandable thing to believe, but the

481
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: issue with that is the following uh, DNA has an

482
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: expiration date. DNA is also organic matter, and as Matt

483
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, organic matter decays, so there can also there

484
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: can be decaying DNA, but there can also be cases

485
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: where the DNA is somehow contaminated, not on purpose, just

486
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: sort of a things happen scenario, right, And now this

487
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 1: means that we have to be able to separate between

488
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: whether whether there's something alien, extraterrestrial somewhere locked away in

489
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: the genetic code you know, that's a show for a

490
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: different day, or whether there was something in the methodology, yes,

491
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: that poisoned it. And in this case, we have a

492
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: pretty solid understanding of what was happening to create these

493
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: skull shapes, right, Yeah, absolutely, these elongated skulls were probably,

494
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: let's say absolutely most likely created by binding, which is

495
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: this this ancient practice where civilizations would purposefully change the

496
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: shape of their skull to several You know, there are

497
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: varying versions of this, but the most common one that

498
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: you can find is this elongated skull by actually binding

499
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: it as it's growing. It's like it's like an extreme

500
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 1: version of like footbinding in Asian cultures. Yeah, but in

501
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: this case it's well, I guess kind of in the

502
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: same as footbinding in a way that served of your

503
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: faturing something that is growing in order to make it

504
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: take a certain shape. Yes, yes, the footbinding is for

505
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: a largely sexual purpose. This is for like almost to

506
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: show not royalty, but like there's a social status that

507
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: was associated a lot of times with this headbinding. Right.

508
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: We still don't know entirely why this occurred. We know

509
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: how they did it, We have a good guess, but

510
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: it is it is fair to point out a mystery

511
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,239
Speaker 1: remains because maybe you know what, call us just a

512
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: bunch of know nothings from twenty seventeen, but if somebody

513
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: proposed that we try something like that with our own kids,

514
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: or something that'd be kind of weird. Yeah, I wouldn't

515
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: want to do that, And who knows what effect it

516
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: has on the brain as it's being developed and all that,

517
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: especially if you're doing it at such a young age

518
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: as these, you know, as the skull itself is growing. Yeah,

519
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to mess with that. And then we

520
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: have another example, the Atacama skeleton. Is this is a

521
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: really weird one. This is probably the one that gets

522
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: to me, you know. Yeah, we we had the gentleman

523
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: on our show, doctor Stephen Greer, who at least introduced

524
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: me to this subject with a documentary film that he made.

525
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: It's a fascinating story. And this is in particular where

526
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: we get to the point where there are still some

527
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: questions that I have that I want answered before I

528
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: can make any kind of judgment call on what I

529
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: believe this thing is. It's it's really it's really cool

530
00:34:53,840 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: in my opinion. So, okay, I don't remember whether whether

531
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: he spoke about this one in our previous interview with him.

532
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: Frown acknowledge, Oh no, no. In the interview he does

533
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: not address at least not in in length, but he

534
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: was the previous documentary they would make that he had

535
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: made before, the one he came to talk to us about. Noel,

536
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: can you give us the skinny on this skeleton? The

537
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: skeleton skinny, oh man, because skeletons are skinny. I'm a dummy.

538
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: That's great, Okay. So in two thousand and three, in

539
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: a deserted town in Chile um located in the Atacama Desert,

540
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: a six inch long skeleton or portion of skeletal human

541
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: remains was found and according to a local newspaper, ben

542
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: I believe they gave it a name, isn't that right? Yeah?

543
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: And Ata was found in northern Chile by a man

544
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: by the name of Oscar Munios, who later sold the

545
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: remains to a Spanish businessman by the name of Ramon

546
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: Navia Osaria. That was nice, rule, yeah, yeah, yeah. So

547
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: here is a little snippet from if L Science, a

548
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: great blog, and you know, the IFL stands for I

549
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: Flipping Love It, I Flipping Love Science Family Show. They

550
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: went into how the skeleton was part of a private

551
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: collection until oh nine, and at that time was brought

552
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: to a symposium in Spain in Barcelona, and then in

553
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: twenty twelve a group of scientists had the chance to

554
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: study this skeleton at length, and they used X rays,

555
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: cat scans, and took genetic samples as well, and the

556
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: results showed that the chest cavity of Atta actually still

557
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: had what appeared to be the remains of lungs and

558
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: also a heart inside. Exactly a heart and lungs inside

559
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: this skeleton. Now, really fast, if we pull up a

560
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: picture of this and we take a look at it,

561
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: you can you can get a better idea of kind

562
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: of what they were working with. So we Nolman, you

563
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: mentioned that it's a six inch long skeleton, and it

564
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: looks like a fully formed human skeleton, everything from the

565
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: footbones all the way up to the top of the skull,

566
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: including the arms and the hands, the ribs, everything. That's

567
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: where my nickname came from. No old baby skeleton brown. Ah,

568
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: there we are. Well, as we'll find out, perhaps it

569
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: wasn't a baby, but it was still a baby skeleton.

570
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: It was, Yes, a tiny skeletons got it. So it was.

571
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: Originally this skeleton Auto was thought to be ancient, but

572
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: this testing that they were doing at this time found

573
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: the remains were only a few decades old and they

574
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: were entirely human. But there was some weird stuff that

575
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: went on with a genetic testing because ten percent, nine

576
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: to ten percent of the DNA came back as not human.

577
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: But there's an explanation for that. It's kind of weird.

578
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: But because you think ten percent, nine to ten percent

579
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: of this was not human, what in the heck could

580
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: that be? But that just has to do with with

581
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: the DNA. As Ben said earlier, it degrades over time.

582
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: And also there's a certain percentage of error that you're

583
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: going to get where you're doing DNA testing, and there

584
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: I guess it's also has to do things that I

585
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: don't understand. The entire genome when it's being tested. There

586
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 1: are certain parts that sometimes will fall off a test.

587
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: This segment, Yeah, it gets a little weird and again

588
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: beyond my pay grade. But the results of you know,

589
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: ninety one percent roughly being human are well within the

590
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: expected parameters for contamination and degradation of DNA and so

591
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: entirely human fetus but so tiny to be so formed

592
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: in the way it is. You know, to most observers,

593
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: Ata appears to be a fetus. People would say, maybe

594
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: die premature purely, Maybe was born prematurely and died shortly thereafter. However,

595
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: to Matt's point, the same scientific analysis says that there

596
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: were a mature teeth present in the mouth and the

597
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: bones were well developed, with the leg bones showing growth

598
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: plates that you would expect to see in a child

599
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: of the age between six to eight. And that's also

600
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: from that IFL science article, and it goes on. While

601
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: the testing did provide answers, it also raised many more questions.

602
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: How could a six year old child only be six

603
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: inches long? And at this point we still do not know.

604
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: We don't just mean Matt, Noel and Ben don't know,

605
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: We mean no one is completely sure. Yeah, and it's

606
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: hard to imagine. Can you imagine when you look at

607
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: a picture of this thing, imagine it walking around and

608
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: before it was this large, after six to eight years

609
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: it was smaller. In fact, let's take a break. Go

610
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: check this out. If you're as long as you're not

611
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: driving or something, go check out a photo of this

612
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: and tell us what you think. After a word from

613
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 1: our sponsors. Okay, just a few more examples. I feel

614
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: like we should laundry list some of these. I have

615
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: one thing in the notes titled in those days there

616
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: were chaliants because that's such a dramatic phrase. You use

617
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: that line in one of the radio plays we did. Yeah, yeah, yepy,

618
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: the creepy demon monologue revealing his diabolical plot. Yeah, there

619
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: were giants in those days. Okay, Yes, I am in

620
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: love with that phrase, and it's it's quite dramatic, but

621
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: we say it because it's cool phrase, and we also

622
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: say it because we want to recap our the thing

623
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: about ancient giants, right could cover up in which you

624
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: have heard mentioned on our show before. The idea is

625
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: that throughout human history, from the ancient days to well

626
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: within the past one hundred and fifty years, civilizations around

627
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: the world have been discovering the skulls and skeletons of giants.

628
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: We're talking people who are nine twelve feet tall, you know,

629
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: well outside the bounds of what would be expected. People

630
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: who believe this story point to photographs that appeared in

631
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: various newspapers of note around the time, or were claimed

632
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: to appear in those newspapers. And proponents of this stuff

633
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: also believe the world's museums are part of a cabal

634
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: that is purposely buying up these remains and suppressing them

635
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: or storing them or destroying them. Yeah, And critics point

636
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: out that a lot of the alleged photographs that you

637
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: would find in these newspapers and ones that you'll find

638
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: now online are doctored in some way or photoshopped. And

639
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: I can verify that several of the images that I

640
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: have found on my personal Facebook feed because of people

641
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: and pages that I follow, are most certainly the works

642
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: of image manipulation. You can see that there's been resizing

643
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: and compositing of different images. In a lot of these.

644
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: You can see the edges where it's been cut out.

645
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: You can see where there should be shadows but there aren't,

646
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: or the shadows don't match up. Um. Yeah, it's an

647
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 1: unfortunate truth, but it's the truth, right. And it's also

648
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: tough to imagine that if the world is littered with

649
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: giant skeletons, some organization could keep it completely secret from everyone. Literally,

650
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a big secret. It's literally dozens of

651
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: big secrets, Benjamin, the giant secrets. I had us all

652
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: down on that when there was also you may have

653
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: heard of a three fingered mummy. This was I had

654
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: not heard of this. This was mentioned through an outfit

655
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: called Gaya TV, and they presented it in sort of

656
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: history channel ancient Aliens way, Like, I'm not saying it

657
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: was aliens. This is definitely an alien. I'm saying it's

658
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: an alien, but definitely an alien. Check out this alien

659
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: at all. But it's not an alien, right, but I

660
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: understand it might be an alien. Yeah, this is most

661
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: likely another hope because apparently Gaya has been accused of

662
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: hoaxing or misrepresenting things in the past. However, we are

663
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: not we haven't spoken with the people a guy, and

664
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: I'm not very familiar with their work. These are just

665
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: criticisms I've read, and it may be possible that those

666
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: criticisms are subjective or not true. I just I just

667
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: want to be fair. I don't want to hate on

668
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: Guya too much. But I've definitely seen some things that

669
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: they've published that are bogus. You've seen some things, yeah, Okay,

670
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: the last one maybe is the well, one of the

671
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: last ones is the Kishtam dwarf. Small human fetus known

672
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: as Alyoshenka was found by an elderly woman in Russia.

673
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: It had an unusual appearance, and it gave rise to

674
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 1: rumors and extra terrestrial origin. Local populations supported the rumors,

675
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: and they would charge reporters for interviews. At least two

676
00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: Japanese companies made documentaries about it in April two thousand

677
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: and four. Scientists who studied these remains said it was

678
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: a premature female human infant with severe deformities. Other eyewitnesses said, no,

679
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: deformities can't explain this. There are too many, especially deformities

680
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: in the skull. They said, it wasn't a hoax. It

681
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: was a genuine mummified body that was once living tissue.

682
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: But the argument was, you know, some people just didn't

683
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: want to walk away from the idea that this was

684
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: extraterrestrial and was a cover up. But right now, the

685
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: best guest for this, and there's not a whole bunch

686
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: stuff written about this discovery in English, but the best

687
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: guess is that it may be attributed to something called

688
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: the nineteen fifty seven Kishtom disaster, which I had never

689
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: heard of. And I feel ashamed for not knowing about this.

690
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: Shame for shame, Ben Pole, But you know, for shame

691
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: on all of us week. We had to look it up,

692
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: and as it turns out, there was a radioactive contamination

693
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: incident that occurred on the twenty ninth of September in

694
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty seven at Mayak, which is a plutonium production

695
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: site in Russia for nuclear weapons and also nuclear fuel

696
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: reprocessing for the Soviet Union, and it measured as a

697
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: level six disaster on the International Nuclear Event Scale or INEZ,

698
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: that's how I'm gonna choose to say it, and it

699
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: made it the third most serious nuclear accident ever recorded,

700
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: behind the Fukushima Daichi nuclear disaster and the Chernobyl disaster.

701
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: I just want to take a tiny little sidebar. Paul,

702
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: superproducer Paul, and myself and the superproducer Alex and superproducer

703
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: Tristan all went and saw this movie Stalker, this Tarkovski film,

704
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: and it was all shot in and around these Russian

705
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: nuclear sites, and it is some bleak, bleak stuff. It's

706
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: a really excellent film, quite cerebral and plotting and very drony,

707
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: but very much worth your time. I would check it out,

708
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: if only for just the visuals of like these sites.

709
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: And as it turns out, it's the filmmaker and a

710
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: couple of the members of the crew died from radiation.

711
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: Raiation but later in life circumstances pretty well associated with

712
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: them splashing around in these uh, these super fun sit

713
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: like ponds. Was this recent? Was this still in the

714
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: theater seventy nine? Oh okay, he came out in seventy nine,

715
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: came out, so it was probably made in like you know,

716
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: seventy five actually was made three times. That's a whole

717
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: other story. But yeah, anyway, I was actually a fan

718
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: of There's a video game series called Stalker. There were

719
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: a couple of them. One of them is called Stalker

720
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: Shadows of Chernobyl, and it feels very different or very

721
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: similar to that, but I wonder if it's actually a

722
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: completely different. Well, the character the Stalker in the film

723
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: is like his whole deal as he guides people through

724
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: these sites in the film have a supernatural connotation. But anyway, sidebar,

725
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: I just really really enjoyed the film and it made

726
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: me think of some of the scenes, and it's good

727
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 1: for people to see, well maybe not good, but it's

728
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: important for people to see the level of destruction and

729
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: the level of lasting effect these sorts of technologies can

730
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: have upon the world, especially on children who are being

731
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: born right and not to mention animals right or plant life,

732
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: and we know that this stuff lasts and as much

733
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: as we would like to pretend that we exist in

734
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: our own islands, everything is eventually connected, you know what

735
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean. A disaster from one place, if it's big enough,

736
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: as a disaster everywhere. There was one more thing I

737
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: found that was interesting. It's a bit of a bit

738
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: of a crime story. This is the last one I have.

739
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: I started looking at mass graves of ordinary skeletons who

740
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: met extraordinary ends. I found one in a state in India,

741
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: uttarakand at an altitude of about sixteen thousand feet in

742
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: the Himalayas, someone found as many six hundred skeletons buried

743
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: in a place called Rupekund Lake or Skeleton Lake. They

744
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: date from either the ninth century to the fifteenth century,

745
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: and the local community had a legend about this. They

746
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: said the remains include those of King Jaz the Wall

747
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: because he was disobedient during a pilgrimage and with his wife,

748
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: the queen and his royal entourage, and this angered the

749
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: Hindu goddess Mata. So to gain revenge, she in a

750
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: local deity named Latu created thunderstorms and avalanches, raining gigantic

751
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: stones on the king and his army. And it turns

752
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: out the legend might contain a grain of truth because

753
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: the scientists say it's possible that the skeletons cracked skulls

754
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 1: were all struck by stones, hailstones, and that they died

755
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: in a blizzard or other natural catastrophe. Wow. Not the

756
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: best way to go. Yeah, not the best way to

757
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,959
Speaker 1: go at all, and maybe not a legend at all.

758
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: But we see how the legend gets built off of that.

759
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's really important to know that

760
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: most legends start from a grain of truth, right, So

761
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: that's a pearl inside the clam. I love that. That's

762
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: very Are you secretly auditioning for a Disney movie Pixar character?

763
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: That was? I can see you? Yeah, I plam. I

764
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: love it. I don't want to cut you off. Please.

765
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: The last one that I just wanted to mention here,

766
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: and I'm not even really going to get into it

767
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: all the way, but I think you should look up

768
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 1: a place called little More Priory. Little More is one word.

769
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: Little More is one word, yes, and it was a

770
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: priory church. That also, what is the what not in

771
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: a nunnery? What is the Is that a priory a

772
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: place where nuns convent? Maybe a convent of sorts where

773
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: there were a lot of nuns who lived in this area.

774
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: And this is in Yeah, it's a small it's specifically

775
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: a smaller one, and it's run by a prior s

776
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: a priores that's exactly that's where that word came from.

777
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: Okay um. So this place in the fifteen hundreds, apparently

778
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: there was some strange stuff going on with the prioress,

779
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: the person who ran this joint, and the nuns who

780
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: were in there. There was some misdeeds, let's say, in

781
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: the eyes of the people who were in charge of it.

782
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: There's some serious sinning who was occurring. Believe the bishop

783
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: shut it down. The bishop did shut it down. But

784
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 1: they're ninety two women. The remains of ninety two humans,

785
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: most of them women and some children were found buried

786
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: here and unceremoniously. Some of them were faced down. One

787
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: was buried with a child appeared to be an unborn

788
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: child or you know, a child that was born and deceased,

789
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: and yes, and then several other women who were prostrate

790
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: on the ground which appeared to be maybe witches. And

791
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: there's this whole series of strange stuff that went on

792
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: with all of these deaths. And or you know, skeletons

793
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: buried face down and unconsecrated ground. Yeah, very very strange

794
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: that those are the usual signs I recognize, at least

795
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: that's how they usually put me in. Okay, yeah, well whatever,

796
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: anybody got to roll over. I don't know why everybody

797
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: thinks that's gonna work. Got anyway, look up a little

798
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: more priory. There's more to it. There's more to it,

799
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: but just check it out. And we're getting the signal

800
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,959
Speaker 1: from ourselves. We've been thinking about mortality for a while now,

801
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: so we're going to go, uh, we're going to venture off,

802
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: and we're going to ask for your help because we

803
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: know that there are multiple other stories like this, and

804
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: we are actually having we're actually having a really interesting

805
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 1: time tracing any possible explanations for this. So, for example,

806
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: I don't we didn't have time to put it in

807
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: the show today, but there are a bunch of reports

808
00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: of red haired mummies in uh strange places where you

809
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't expect to find a red haired mummy, right, And

810
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: one of the explanations for that would be that the

811
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: sunlight transforms the hair, turns the hair red. And then

812
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: there are other people who say no, no, no, that's

813
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: not good enough. What are these red haired people doing

814
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: in this part of the world, with red hair being

815
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: relatively rare trait. So we have just dipped our We

816
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 1: have dipped our conceptual facasha just a little bit into

817
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: the olive oil sauce of mystery. Oh not all these

818
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: comparisons are going to work. In conclusion, it appears the

819
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: most famous cases of mysterious skulls can be largely explained

820
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: by mundane causes such as genetic disorder, injury, hoaxes, or,

821
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: in the case of Prakash, purposeful deformation for cultural purposes.

822
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: And you know, in that one case, there's a pretty

823
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: compelling argument for freak meteorological occurrences. But also those skeletons,

824
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: other than their grizzly strange death, are perfectly normal. And

825
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: I feel like I have to make a point about

826
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: a coaxing here. Sure, there are loads of individuals who

827
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: claim they've discovered something unusual, only for it later to

828
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: be proven, you know, not to be an alien or

829
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: not to be an extraterrestrial or nephelim or whatever. But

830
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: that does not automatically mean they are con artists. And

831
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: they may genuinely believe what they have discovered, and so

832
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: it would be unfair for us to automatically ascribe some

833
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: kind of motive or internal motivation to these people. Oh yeah, absolutely.

834
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: If if I was the person who came across that

835
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: Autocoma skeleton, I would absolutely think there was something strange

836
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: going on and want it to be tested immediately. Let's

837
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: go right now and let's get this thing tested. Yeah. Absolutely,

838
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: And a lot of these examples, I would the starchild skull.

839
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: I would also want to look into that. If you know,

840
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: I didn't have an understanding of some of the human

841
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: genetic different nations that occur that I have now, and

842
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: I'm I'm, you know, lucky to have that information in

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Speaker 1: my life. Well said Matt. Well said indeed, And I

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Speaker 1: am inspired by that, and I follow your lead in

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Speaker 1: these sorts of things because I'm inspired by you too.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, well, we're both inspired by Noel. Who do

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Speaker 1: I get to be inspired by? Oh wait, I am

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Speaker 1: an inspire thon again, an aspire off and inspire off

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Speaker 1: and uh, Paul nodded, he's eating a sandwich or something.

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Speaker 1: The rapid up really good salad too. I'm hungry, all right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we are off too. We are off to feed

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Speaker 1: Noel indeed, and dried cranberries and dried cranberries and Philly

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Speaker 1: staying alive. So we're we're going to head off, but

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Speaker 1: want to give a shout out to the Mysteries of

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that Time Life will be okay with us.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we could quiz each other one day and read

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Speaker 1: the questions. It's stuff like do you like thunderstorms? Do

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Speaker 1: I'm sure if you enjoy this show, you are you're

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