WEBVTT - Vag of Honor with Naomi Watts 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:04.320 Hi, Catherine, Hi Chelsea, Hi here, we are here, we 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:06.400 are It's what day is it? 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.840 Is it Thursday? Yes, it's Thursday. Must be Thursday. It's 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:09.680 our podcast day. 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:10.800 And you're back in Whistler. 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:12.840 I am, I'm back. I'm home. 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:15.080 How has the skiing, I mean, as much as you've 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:16.800 been able to be there, how's the skiing been this year? 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:20.159 Well, the skiing's been good. I mean a couple of 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.919 dry spells or rain spells. Whistle gets wet so it 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:25.040 kind of ruins the snow. But there's a lot of 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:27.000 snow right now. I mean, I'm still recuperating from my 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:29.960 shoulder stitch, so I'm not really skiing, but I just 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.839 love being here, you know, in the snow. And I've 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:36.080 been reunited with Doug, my dog trainer. Up here was 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.720 with him. She moved into my house. Abbey from Tail 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:42.640 Tail Tails from Whistler. I don't know what the company is, 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:47.879 hot Tails from Whistler Dog, but she's so awesome. I mean, 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:49.760 she really saved me when I had found out I 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.040 had to get that shoulder surgery. So Doug now thinks 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:56.200 she's her mother, his mother, so I have to contest 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:57.920 with that, but I'll fucking take it, you know what 0:00:58.000 --> 0:00:58.279 I mean. 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.160 She's so good with him, and he's so I mean, 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:01.720 you should eat. 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:03.560 When I he sees me, he puts my hand in 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.560 his mouth and he's not biting, but he's playing, and 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:08.640 he just like and she goes. That's when he is 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:12.080 so overwhelmed with emotion that he can't express himself, like 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.560 he just and he when I got home, I mean, 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.080 he had my hand in his mouth for like almost 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:18.800 forty minutes. I could not get it out. 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:21.240 And cute aggression you ever get that where he's just. 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.759 Like, look at me, look at me. I'm like, oh, dog, 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.640 I didn't want to leave you. I didn't want to. 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:30.039 I added more Vegas dates you guys, so I want 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.800 to make sure I mention those. So my next dates 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.160 are March twenty first. This is my residency at the 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:39.559 Cosmopolitan in Vegas at the Chelsea Theater March twenty first, 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:43.520 in April eighteenth, and then we added July fifth, August thirtieth, 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:48.240 November first, and November twenty ninth. So go to Chelsea 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.760 handler dot com for your tickets, and. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.600 Your book is like about to come out. Oh it'll 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.920 be like a week away very soon. 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:58.240 So get your pre orders in. Yeah, and you can 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.160 actually on Barnes and Noble. You can like say I 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:01.560 would like a signed copy. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.840 And yes, I signed eighty five hundred copies for Barnes 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.800 and Nobles, so you can get that if you want 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.600 to sign copy or come to any of my book signings. 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.240 They're all up on my website too. I'm going to 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.400 New Jersey. I'll be at the ninety second Street. 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.240 Why New York. I'll be in Cincinnati. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:17.720 Let's just read it while I have my phone here. 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:22.320 Let's see where else I'm going. Yeah, Boston, Cincinnati, Chicago. 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.280 I'll be in New Jersey on the twenty fourth, my birthday. 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:27.679 I'll be at the ninety second Street, y twenty six, 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.839 I'll be in Boston, then Cincinnati, then Chicago, then La 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.240 at the Grove, and then Seattle, Washington on March third. 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.960 So go to Chelsea Handler dot com for all that information. 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.359 Make sure you order your Owls Brew or buy your 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:42.440 Owlsbrew so we can have a nice boozy book club. 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:44.760 And I'll put a link to that in the description 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:45.200 as well. 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:49.080 Awesome, Thank you so much, Catherine drum Roll. Catherine, please 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.520 Chelsea Handler Abroad. Abroad is my European Tour, which I 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:58.600 just announced yesterday. Tickets go on sale tomorrow or today 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:03.320 or there's a pre sale code Chelsea. So I'm coming 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:07.839 to obviously find a husband abroad. I need to get 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.000 the health out of this fucking country, and it's not 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:14.120 as easy as you think. So I'm coming to Rekuvik. 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:18.120 I'm coming to Dublin. I'm coming to the UK. I'm 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:21.480 coming to Brussels, Paris, Belfast. 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:22.360 In May and June. 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:27.559 I'm coming to Oslo, Stockholm, to Copenhagen, Manchester, London, Glasgow, 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:32.919 New Zurich, Vienna. I've never ever been to Vienna, Berlin, 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:38.680 Barcelona and Lisbon. I'm coming abroad is abroad. 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.320 That sounds like fun. I'm going to go see you abroad. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.120 I know I want to go see me abroad, and 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.720 there all be, there, all be. We have a best 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.040 selling New York Times author on today, her new book, 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:53.320 Dare I Say It? Everything I Wish I'd known about Menopause, 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.480 debut at number four on the New York Times Bestsellers List. 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:01.680 Please welcome, actor, author, and entrepreneurs are my friend, Naomi Watts. 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:03.720 Oh hello, oh. 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.760 Hello menopause lady. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:15.120 Hi, Hi are you excited to continue your talking about menopause. 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:16.280 I know that you have. 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:22.680 I've seen you everywhere. I know I feel very exposed. Yeah, 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.839 definitely Billy too. 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.240 Poor Billy, Poor hot Billy. 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.279 She's married to Billy Krudup, who I've a very intense 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:35.000 crush on. I've expressed such to him and Naomi together, 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:40.320 and luckily he's very gracious at my advances, but also 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:41.320 keeps his distance. 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:43.599 First of all, on behalf of my sister. 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:45.120 I want to say thank you for sending all of 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.839 your products to my Sistershana, and she got all of 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:53.280 your products. She fucking loves them and I love them too, 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.559 and I have to say so, dare I say? It 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.279 is this book and this is perfect for our audience 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.480 because we have so many women listening, and all of 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.040 you women are going to get to experience the joy 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:09.120 of menopause and the great advantage and the bravery that 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.200 Naomi is bringing to the subject matter by discussing it 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:16.280 so openly and encouraging so many other women that are 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.680 now discussing it so openly, is that we don't have 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:23.679 to go through this without having the information like women 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.320 fifty years ago did. We don't have to go through 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:28.800 all of this without talking about it like women fifty 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:29.840 years ago did. 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:31.440 We? 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.880 And there are so many tools, and there are so 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:38.000 many brands, including Stripes, which is Naomi's brand, that has 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.320 so many ways to help you deal with all of 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:46.039 the experiences that you will go through during perimenopause. And 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.599 you also mentioned which is very funny because my sister 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.200 Sir Shana, who is a nurse, said on the podcast 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:54.359 she goes, you know, menopause is just actually one day. 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.599 It's a year from the day of your last period. 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:58.880 Is that right? Is that what it is? 0:05:58.920 --> 0:05:59.800 That's exactly right. 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:01.720 I said to her, you don't know what the fuck 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.680 you're talking about. This was this was a couple of right, 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.720 This is a couple of years ago, right, right. And 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.520 while she's an urn, so clearly she always knows the 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.360 way more than I do. But you also talk about 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.839 that in the book, which is which I think a 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:17.400 lot of people didn't know, right. 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.800 Yeah, And that also, you know, it's basically a third 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:26.600 of our lives that we will be in this menopause, perimenopause, 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:31.360 postmenopause state. You know that, So not to say that 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.480 the doom and gloom of your symptoms will last did that. 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:38.239 There's you know, many decades, but you could still have 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:44.880 some menopause related symptoms that you know, unless you're getting treatment, 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:49.160 and that is obviously everyone's choice, whatever is safe for them. 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:53.000 So it is something to prepare for, but not with fear. 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.559 And we don't have to flail around trying to piece 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:00.520 it all together by ourselves anymore, because it's now can open. 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:02.359 We can talk to our friends, we can go to 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:07.760 our doctors with the right questions and explore it with 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.200 feeling armed with what's available now out there on the 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:15.000 on the internet. I mean, there's that fantastic New York 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.920 Times Susan Dominus article that was written a couple of 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:22.440 years ago that really goes granular into how to. 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:26.000 Approach treatment if you want to. It's a different time. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:28.360 And one of the things that you talk about in 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.360 your book that I think is so people don't really 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.920 realize is that you can be going through perimenopause and 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:38.880 also becoming a mother, like motherhood can be in conjunction 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:40.000 with perimenopause. 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.480 So, which is something that happened to you? 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.240 Yes, I well, the news came to me that I 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:50.760 was close to menopause quote unquote at thirty six, when 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.120 I was not getting pregnant. My doctor said, let's take 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:57.640 some blood work and I did, and then the results 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:00.480 suggested that I was you know, I had a high 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:05.160 FSH level, which is follicle stimulating hormone. And I kind 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.480 of ran out of the office, not ran, but like 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:11.080 walked out of the office in pieces, feeling terrified. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.480 Oh my god, two bits of bad news. 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:17.280 My fertility was done, possibly and I was going to 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.920 be going into menopause, which just felt like the end 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.880 of everything. I called my mom right away and said, 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.360 why didn't you tell me more? She had told me 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.320 that she went into it at forty five, but when 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:33.319 I asked her, why shouldn't give me more detail, she said, well, 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.959 these were the conversations I never had with you, because 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:39.040 my mother never had them with me, Like there was 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:43.360 some code of silence that was just agreed upon. We 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.840 suck it up, we suffered through, we sold youer on, 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:50.520 and yeah, that's just the way it goes. And this 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.920 made no sense when we're half the population that is 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.600 going to get there, God willing that we lived that long, 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:03.160 and and yeah, why should we suffer? Why why should 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:07.440 we have to deal with any kind of conversation that 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:12.439 is taboo or stigmatized. It didn't make any sense, especially 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.920 now that we're living longer, so we need to optimize 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.040 our health. And you know, if you don't get things 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.680 under control, you it can lead to other issues. 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.000 Yeah, there's a lot of like suffering, like the subject 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.240 of women suffering and women being tough and having to deal. 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.680 First of all, we're juggling more than most men are 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.280 on a daily basis. You know, we're able to multitask, 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.200 we're able to do all of these things. But the 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:37.400 idea of like female suffering is just it's so crazy 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.040 that people, I mean, there are certain people who think 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.559 you have to suffer, that it is part of the journey, 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.800 that it is part of the game. You have to 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.320 suffer in order to get stronger, you have to suffer 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.160 in order to you know, be the body weight you 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:50.840 want to be. You have to suffer. It's like that's 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.800 all bullshit. You don't have to suffer. You have to 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:55.600 work hard and be determined. 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.880 I know, it's like it's part of our programming. 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:00.920 I mean, and you know, even going back to the 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.200 first time we had our periods and there was pain 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.640 and it was like come on, everyone has period pains. 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:07.839 Just suck it up, You're fine. And then you find 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:12.800 out ten years later, this young woman's got endometriosis, and 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.840 you know it, has been complaining about it, but everyone 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:19.160 around her has said, you know, you can deal. So 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:23.199 I think it's just part of our wiring that we 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.760 think that we miss just soldier through. And I don't 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:28.840 think we need to do that. 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.320 And I think as we get to this point in 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:36.239 our life, as you know, older women who have experienced 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.160 a few things, we get to say no, actually not, 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.760 I'm not gonna I'm not just going to roll through this. 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.200 I'd like some support and I'd like to have some 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.600 compassion and empathy from all those around me. 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.320 So what was like, what was the issue for you? 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:53.240 Because I mean, coming up with this. 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:56.520 Product line is incredible, it's incredibly helpful for so many women. 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.720 What was the issue for you that made you develop 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:00.720 your first product? 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:02.240 In which one was the first one? 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.800 Okay, So I developed this company called Stripes Beauty because 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.440 we've owned our stripes. I wanted this woman to feel 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.840 seen that it was not the end that she should 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:17.480 head into this time with support and agency unapologetically so, 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:23.439 and I really wanted to create a brand that recognized 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:29.040 her symptoms, her age, exactly where she's at, and not 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.120 promise the world that you could look like a twenty 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:32.959 five year old, because frankly, when I was twenty five, 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:34.800 I didn't like how I looked. I want to look 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.280 my best in this moment, right now. 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.040 And also that this is a part of your life. 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:41.960 This isn't the end of your life, and there is 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:45.920 more to be excited about after, after you're done with menopause, 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.840 and quite possibly during the whole process of menopause, which 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.480 I would argue is something that you can go through 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.559 with the right help and the right support and the 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.960 right products, while enjoying the time that you're going. It's 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.679 not like a funeral. You have a whole life ahead 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:04.840 of you after exactly. It's just it's a whole new chapter. 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:10.120 Yes, some changes take place, and not just physically emotionally. 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.040 You know, your household emptying out perhaps, or about to 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:19.719 your ailing parents, job pressures, marriage issues, you know like that. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.640 So many things can happen it at this exact time, 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.520 and it's kind of a cruel trick that you do 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.320 get that zinger of the old metopause thing. But we 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:36.800 can get through challenges again with support systems and good doctors, 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:40.719 good community, all of it. But to go back to 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.880 your question, Magevanna if I may is one of our 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.199 best seller and you've got it right there. It's one 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.839 of the curve Yer bottles. I think that's the loop. 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.800 This is oh my glide, that's the play oil. I'm 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:54.880 going to use that for butts. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.160 So I wanted to create a product line that was 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:02.559 from scalp to thatch because we need extra hydration at 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:08.040 all of those points. And that's a deep hydration level 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.600 for your skin, for your hair, for your body, and 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:12.520 the badge. 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.160 And so you can put this anywhere, right, you can 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:15.840 put it on your scalp or your vadge. 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.440 Oh no, wait, what do you you've got them. That's 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.800 just for the badge. The power move, oh, the power move. 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:23.800 It's just for the face. 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.480 Just face. You don't put the face on your vagina. No, 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:31.120 you can put it on. 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.800 The face of your lover and then maybe. 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.200 He's and then he can put it on your vegel, 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.240 on the base, on the base of your vagina. 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:38.600 This one is. 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.440 Called face debate. 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:41.000 Face debase. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.320 This is called rest and clean face, very clever I 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.679 love that, which is a nourishing and calming face wash. 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.800 And then there is lube. And then what do you 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:50.960 have for night sweats? 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.080 Well, there's different things you can do for for night sweats. 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.160 And if you are into supplements, we have something called 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.120 inside Edition. Is that what you have there? 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.760 I have inside it. Yeah, I think that's it right there. 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:02.880 Oh yeah, that's right here. 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.280 Yeah, that's going to help you with. 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:07.600 I've taken these. I've taken these for my night sweats 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:08.120 and they work. 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:09.360 I've taken good. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:10.920 Yes, good, I'm glad to heart. Yeah. 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:15.200 People in perimenopause, I have really had a great time 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.439 with those that that is a great way to start 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:19.840 when you don't know what's going on. But certainly the 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.400 sweaty nights is a big one and something that I 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.400 ticked on medical forms for years and years and years 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:30.880 before I was told I was in menopause. Anyway, I 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.800 have since gone on HRT, which is working for me. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.440 It's a great conversation with my doctor. He went through 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:41.080 my medical history. We talked about my symptoms. If I 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.720 wasn't getting enough sleep, it was going to lead to 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:48.640 other things depression, anxiety, memory, you know, brain fog, all 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:52.240 those kind of issues. So based on my medical history, 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:53.560 he felt it was safe from me. 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:55.920 And what kind of HRT are you on? 0:14:56.520 --> 0:15:01.520 Estrogen and progesterone. So there are so many different delivery methods. 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.520 I have pretty much tried them all. It's all trial 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:09.160 and error. Whatever works for you, different doses, different methods 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:13.160 of delivery. I am currently on the gel, but I 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.160 before that, I was on the patch. I kind of 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.520 missed my patch, and before that I was on the pill. 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.080 I don't know, I may have the chronology off here, 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:26.720 but I've tried the pill, the spray, the ring that 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:31.120 you insert inside, they're all great things. The pill is 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:33.240 meant to be the least safe one because it goes 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.240 through your liver and can cause blood cloths. 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:38.400 Yeah, I'm on the patch. 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.680 I just started the patch, and I take the progesterone 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:41.760 when I go to bed at night. 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:43.280 But it really has helped. 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.400 I mean that the inside edition stripes really helped me 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:52.400 with the night sweats. The progesterone and the estradioltest dial 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:57.320 that is that's helping with the sleep, because the sleep. 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:58.360 We've talked about this. 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.920 When you drink and you can't, I mean it's like 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.720 you can't drink anymore, because you if you drink and 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:05.520 go to bed. 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.320 Yeah, you need a few hours before you go to bed. 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:12.320 It's gonna it's gonna what the sugar's gonna spike in 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.080 the night and wake you up, I think. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.960 But yeah, takes the joy out of it's. 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.960 Day drinking from here on out, girls day drinking. You're 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:23.600 not there yet, Catherine, Yeah, no, no, I'm questing right now, 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:25.320 I'm questing. 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.160 Yes, yes, when you talk about hormone replacement therapy or 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.800 like bioidentical hormones, like that's a buzz word I've heard 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:34.800 a lot. Is there a difference between those? Are those 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:36.560 like two terms for the same thing? 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:41.920 Basically, Yes, it's as I understand it, it's a marketing term. 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:47.840 They're basically the same thing. But yeah, I mean I again, 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.280 I'm not a doctor. I don't know why I said again. 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:51.880 It was like I was in the last meeting. 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:55.360 Sorry, it's still not a doctor'. 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:59.000 Sure what happens when you're on the treadmill, or to 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.440 keep repeating to people I'm not a doctor. I'm not 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:02.040 a doctor. 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:06.240 Yes, I have not even played one. 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.520 So, but you do have a story in the book 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.000 about someone who kind of went with some info from 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.960 the internet and then used some hormones and used way 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.040 too much of them and then found out she was 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.280 using maybe way too much of the testosterone. 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.560 Yes, she had a terrible experience, and she didn't get 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:28.280 enough instruction from her doctor or at the pharmacy, and 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.840 she googled it and she looked up I think the 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.480 dosage of what the male what men were doing, and 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.919 she blew through this testosterone at a rate that was 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:43.639 just not safe and as a result, like started losing 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:48.119 her mind and almost her marriage because it, you know, 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:52.840 she started making stuff up and it was a big problem. So, yeah, 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.640 you do really need to be on top of this 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.920 and beat the CEO of your body and your whole 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:04.199 menopausal journey. Because we're just watching doctors get educated in 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:08.040 real time about this with the conversation not being open. 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.960 Nobody was saying I've got a problem, so the research 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:16.359 wasn't there. So it's just on the you know, on 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.560 the on the on the prespoe of change in the 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:21.520 last five years, it's only going to get better, and 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.959 I think your generation or the next generation is going 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.240 to be much better set up for success. 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.360 Yeah, thankfully, I mean, I mean we could at least 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:32.520 do them that favor after what we did to the climate. 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:34.800 Yeah, that's true. 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.159 What are some other things, knowing that you're not a 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:40.320 doctor and Iaomi, what are some other things that progesterone 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:42.639 and estrogen do provide you? 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:42.880 Well? 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:47.680 I find progesterone is it helps me sleep. I find 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.880 it takes away anxiety, and I've found that that has 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:56.320 been a game changer in my in my sleeping. You know, 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.840 I know that some people might even take higher dose 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:04.399 than I do. I've heard that and I'm definitely curious 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.200 about that at some point for myself. 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:10.200 But it's definitely helped me with sleep and anxiety. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.840 I'm curious as too, Like when you were starting this 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:18.840 kind of you know, research for yourself and then started 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.639 to become more outspoken about it, Like when did you 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:23.560 decide you were going to write this book? With this 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:25.320 book you have to get if you're a woman, you 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:27.240 have to read this. You have to understand what your 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:29.800 body's going through so that you can get ahead of it, 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:34.160 like arm yourself with information. Information is so powerful with everything, 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.359 like and it's just so easy to pick up this 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:40.840 knowledge you know, and then have once you have a 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:42.960 like a base of knowledge about something to be able 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:45.840 to talk to other people about it, it's just so advantageous. 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:49.320 But when did you think because it is not a 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:50.520 sexy topic. 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:50.960 It's not hot. 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:55.080 You know, you're not talking about youthfulness, which is, you know, 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.359 what everyone wants to be talking about. 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.960 So how did you how did you feel about take 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:00.480 this on? 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:03.280 I know Billy wasn't so excited about you talking about 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:06.360 this publicly, but like, when did you decide to take 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.920 this on and become kind of an ambassador for such 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:11.240 an un sexy subject. 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:15.359 Okay, so when after my second child, I was able 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:20.800 to get pregnant naturally, mercifully, and after my second child, 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.320 I went into hardcore symptoms, and in my early forties, 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:28.600