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Speaker 1: days away from the twenty twenty three NFL Draft in
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Missouri. Welcome into the SWBC studios at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. We've got Brian Broddis, Zack Walt, Chuck
Speaker 1: Aysha Morrison. I'm Kyle Yeomans as we take you through
Speaker 1: the next hour, breaking down, investigating, and educating from draft
Speaker 1: prospects as we are closing in on the two week
Speaker 1: mark out, how's everybody doing the anxiety? It's kicking in
Speaker 1: then taking a deep breath. Yeah, it's like I was
Speaker 1: telling to Brian about this. You've watched how many corners,
Speaker 1: how many defensive ends, and every day it's like here
Speaker 1: you go, here's another guy to go watch, and I'm
Speaker 1: just starting to get I don't think I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: enough players. Yeah, I'm almost a two hundred players. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I think to me, that's that's the anxiety you
Speaker 1: go to. And that's the anxiety that the teams go through.
Speaker 1: You know, there gets there's certain point in time these
Speaker 1: teams are building their boards and that the part of
Speaker 1: it's fun. And then when it gets down to the
Speaker 1: end where their board is complete, those last two three days,
Speaker 1: the anxiety is now like getting ready to draft. Did
Speaker 1: we do this right? I always said this. I'd go
Speaker 1: in there and I'm like, please just let these tags
Speaker 1: start blinking. Give me the good players if you just
Speaker 1: you know, as I'm looking at them, if the tags
Speaker 1: would just start glowing, you know, of like, hey, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be the All Pro this year. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be yeah the guy nobody's talking about fifth round.
Speaker 1: You know that was always but the the the anxiety
Speaker 1: is real because you you know, there's we I talked
Speaker 1: about it last week. We were so locked in and
Speaker 1: doing this job and doing it well. And you want
Speaker 1: to be right. You want to be able to inform
Speaker 1: people what you see and people trust you about doing this,
Speaker 1: and you're right, Zach. I'm you know, I'm I'm looking
Speaker 1: at a I'm looking at a corner from Southern Miss
Speaker 1: last night that I'd already looked at twenty three other
Speaker 1: corners and I'm like, all right, well, I see what
Speaker 1: you know. I see the traits and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and this is where the guy is going to be.
Speaker 1: But that's that's your biggest fear, that you don't get
Speaker 1: to all the guys. And you know, if we did
Speaker 1: this full time for a living, I'm sure we'd have
Speaker 1: all the guys, right, we'd have all the time to
Speaker 1: go in there. But we have other jobs we have
Speaker 1: to talk about and other things we have to do.
Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about that Southern Miss corner.
Speaker 1: Eric Scott. He was the last guy you watched coming
Speaker 1: into today. So what do you think about him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know with Eric Scott, and he's a again, this
Speaker 1: is a guy that you're you're kind of hearing, Hey,
Speaker 1: you need to take a peek at He's six wenties
Speaker 1: one ninety seven. He lines up as the field corner.
Speaker 1: And when I say field, there's what we known as
Speaker 1: the boundary, which is to the sideline, and field is
Speaker 1: the guy that plays to the bigger side of the field.
Speaker 1: And look at Beam. He's got some highlights of him.
Speaker 1: Yeah about this. So if you're watching along, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: here's Eric Scott and he's got the size and he's
Speaker 1: got the ability right there, you'll see the tackle and
Speaker 1: the wrap up and stuff like that. He plays a
Speaker 1: lot of his own coverage, and you'll see him play
Speaker 1: sideways a lot, and I mean sideways with his technique,
Speaker 1: and then he kind of trail. He'll trail. Yeah, he'll
Speaker 1: play with his back to the sideline. He'll trail and
Speaker 1: then when he has to turn, he'll turn and he'll go.
Speaker 1: The movement is really really good with this guy. He's
Speaker 1: not tight at all, and so he'll react to the
Speaker 1: receiver when he's pressed. And he's not afraid to make tackles.
Speaker 1: We've seen that on the little video clips that Beam
Speaker 1: has provided, and so you know the aggressiveness approach to
Speaker 1: his game. Seventy eight tackles, he's had twelve pass breakups.
Speaker 1: He's going to be around the ball, and so at
Speaker 1: at that size, at six ninety seven, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a nice, nice looking player for you right there. That
Speaker 1: has really I think a lot more zone coverage capabilities
Speaker 1: than he does when he plays in man. What'd you
Speaker 1: think about him? I haven't seen him yet. Less than
Speaker 1: I was watching I watched Alex Austin the Oregon State
Speaker 1: Corner tell me about him. So, Alex Austin good lengths
Speaker 1: with a position. I don't think he's as good as
Speaker 1: Nishan Wright, who is Nishan Wright's brother, Rajon Wright, who
Speaker 1: plays on the other side. I think I think Rayjon's
Speaker 1: a better player, but he mirrors receivers really well. I
Speaker 1: think he passes off coverage in zone, has a good IQ,
Speaker 1: supports the run, tackles well, hustles to the football. He's
Speaker 1: not always the smoothest with his change of direction. Good
Speaker 1: route runners, I think you're to be able to get
Speaker 1: separation from him. But he can play press man, shows
Speaker 1: good zone awareness, makes plays on the ball, and overall,
Speaker 1: I think that he's a guy that day three sixth
Speaker 1: round range. Maybe some people might have him a little
Speaker 1: bit higher. I think he's gonna be a good special
Speaker 1: teams player, work is a backup initially and then might
Speaker 1: have the ability to end up being a starting corner
Speaker 1: later on in his career. Like Ray Jean, I'd rather
Speaker 1: take him, but Alex Austen had some potential. I also
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask Brian, who do you think is
Speaker 1: better between the kid you watched last night from Southern
Speaker 1: Miss and your LSU Tiger McKay garner. I would take
Speaker 1: the Southern Miss kill. Okay, That's what I would do,
Speaker 1: because I was very unimpressed watching McKay garner. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he's the only LSU player so far that I've been like, oh,
Speaker 1: I was not a big fan of Okay, So you
Speaker 1: like Jay Wards, you like Jay Ward, and even watching
Speaker 1: McKay garner, like, Jay Ward's still out there making. Jay's
Speaker 1: a good player, and you guys know, I like boy
Speaker 1: a lot, big fan of his. B Joglari's probably the
Speaker 1: edge that's not getting enough love from I think draft
Speaker 1: people right now. We probably should give him a little
Speaker 1: bit more attention. But McKay gar it's just his feet
Speaker 1: is balance, you know, I feel like he just kind
Speaker 1: of stumbles around at times, and I just don't see
Speaker 1: a lot of plays on the ball. Inconsistent tackler six
Speaker 1: two two twelve, Like you can see the frame, the length,
Speaker 1: I can see why. You know, scouts might say, right,
Speaker 1: let's get him in here, let's refine, refine the technique
Speaker 1: a little bit. But on tape I didn't love what
Speaker 1: I saw. Are USU who was the last guy that
Speaker 1: you watched? And somebody that stuck out to you. I'm
Speaker 1: laughing at myself because I'm trying to read my own
Speaker 1: hand writing. But no, so I told you guys, ask
Speaker 1: some questions for y'all. So we get into a point
Speaker 1: with d N and Outsidelnebacker that we can knowe we
Speaker 1: gotta stop saying these guys are undersized and this is
Speaker 1: becoming the new norm. I'm asking that because I feel
Speaker 1: like so many of the top dns in this draft. Sure,
Speaker 1: when I look at like a Nick well, he's not
Speaker 1: a top guy, but he I think he is. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know where you guys have Nick campedon. But
Speaker 1: when I look like I just and then you go
Speaker 1: over and you look at a Nick Herbig, I mean, well,
Speaker 1: let me stay with Nick Campton from Appalachian State. I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at the fact that I feel like we
Speaker 1: talk about Nolan Smith, you talk about Will McDonald, you
Speaker 1: talk about maybe be Olari, Like I keep seeing undersize.
Speaker 1: I keep thinking, oh, the people consider these gentlemen under sized.
Speaker 1: But this feels like kind of this is where some
Speaker 1: of these twitchy top athletes are from the DN position
Speaker 1: outside linebacker position, When are we gonna start or is
Speaker 1: there maybe a transition and transition happening with that position.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different, right because you're not looking
Speaker 1: at six foot four or six foot five and length.
Speaker 1: You're looking at speed and about six two in strength
Speaker 1: and bend all sorts of beds. Right. And then so
Speaker 1: because I feel like so many knocks on so many
Speaker 1: of the top dns that we've talked about, um is
Speaker 1: the fact that maybe they're under sized, so you don't know,
Speaker 1: like maybe you can run at them. Maybe similar to
Speaker 1: the conversation of what Micah has talked about, and Micah
Speaker 1: even has talked about that he's had to build his
Speaker 1: callousis this past season. He's had to really take on
Speaker 1: that physical beating of being a d N at that size,
Speaker 1: and it's taken some time for him to develop, you know,
Speaker 1: into being able to get off of the you know,
Speaker 1: to play that position more more. And so what I'm
Speaker 1: asking is is, like I wonder if guys dns now
Speaker 1: are going to start training different coming into this league
Speaker 1: because they it just feels like I'm tired personally. I'm
Speaker 1: tired of saying that a players undersized at the d
Speaker 1: N position, because I feel like I just keep Oh,
Speaker 1: he's a little undersized, but he's a playmakers he's crazy. Okay,
Speaker 1: So which one like? Which one is it? This is?
Speaker 1: It's funny you bring up Hampton because as I look
Speaker 1: at my notes, the very last thing I said, need
Speaker 1: to need to have a vision for his value, you know.
Speaker 1: And so you know, I kind of feel like that
Speaker 1: Nick Hampton at six two two thirty six might be
Speaker 1: max stout physically, but I you watch him play and
Speaker 1: he never stops the redirection field, the redirection, he sees
Speaker 1: double teams, he gets through that. He you know, he's
Speaker 1: lightweight wise, but he sure does good a good job
Speaker 1: of playing with power. So if you know, if you
Speaker 1: have those abilities where you might be short or you
Speaker 1: might be a little light, you better have other traits
Speaker 1: that can kind of carry you for the day. And
Speaker 1: that's where that's the beauty of scouting. I was talking
Speaker 1: with I was talking with the guy with the Broncos
Speaker 1: this morning on the way to the station, and I said,
Speaker 1: tell me about these wide receivers. Tell me about all
Speaker 1: these short wide receivers. A guy, I can't I don't
Speaker 1: have figured out. I figured out I'm getting ready to
Speaker 1: draft here in a couple of weeks, you know, and
Speaker 1: you're and you're just like, but you're trying. That's the
Speaker 1: beauty of the draft. You got to find these when
Speaker 1: you're talking about these edges that might be lightweight wise,
Speaker 1: but what else do they do? Can you can their
Speaker 1: skill set overcome anything that they any deficiencies that they
Speaker 1: might have. And that's that's where we're at with that.
Speaker 1: I've never seen. I've never seen in all these years
Speaker 1: I've been doings draft since ninety two, I don't remember
Speaker 1: a draft where I've had to deal with more questions
Speaker 1: about the size of a player, whether it's being the
Speaker 1: height or the weight or you know it. Usually you
Speaker 1: have a you this is. You know, in the old days,
Speaker 1: there was a guy less sneat, old scout and we lost,
Speaker 1: and Less used to say this is, this is These
Speaker 1: guys are part of the jockey club. And if you
Speaker 1: know anything about horse race and jockeys are short, he says.
Speaker 1: And so you know there's that you got that jockey club.
Speaker 1: At wide receiver, you got the I mean, one of
Speaker 1: the best players I've seen is one hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: six pound owner. Yep, when when have I ever seen that?
Speaker 1: And it's undeniable too. Yeah, And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is the challenge of these
Speaker 1: teams to find the the the you know, the Forbes
Speaker 1: and and look at where Nick Hampton needs to be
Speaker 1: on your board, because there's a place for these guys.
Speaker 1: But it is so different from what old Krusty Bryant
Speaker 1: has used to when it comes to scouting. Another thing
Speaker 1: about Nick Campton, I felt like he's dependable in a
Speaker 1: sense that when he gets a chance to make the play,
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna out. He's if he gets his
Speaker 1: hands on you, you're probably gonna get tackles like he's yea.
Speaker 1: And I like that dependability from a player. And I
Speaker 1: also said he's gonna win with speed and agility, like
Speaker 1: that's what he's gonna win with. He's not gonna I
Speaker 1: don't think he's winning with power right now and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. He can work on a shed work, but
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I just think that's a
Speaker 1: conversation to be had about so many of these top dns.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's undersized all he's a little underweight,
Speaker 1: he's a little and I'm like, okay, is that becoming
Speaker 1: a new norm? Is that becoming? Is d ND becoming?
Speaker 1: Like when I look at Tank and I'll look at
Speaker 1: some of these guys, I'm like, is night and day,
Speaker 1: I guess what's You're one of the first, one of
Speaker 1: the first guys. When we started this journey many many
Speaker 1: weeks ago, one of the first guys that you talked
Speaker 1: about was Will McDonald from Iowa State, YEP. And at
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty nine pounds. I will stand here
Speaker 1: right now and tell you that that Will McDonald is
Speaker 1: a consideration for them at twenty six. Yeah, at six four,
Speaker 1: two thirty nine, I will tell you that. Now, we'll
Speaker 1: see how the board plays. But the fact that Will McDonald,
Speaker 1: who people saying he's a little bit of this, a
Speaker 1: little bit. No, guy's a good football player, really good
Speaker 1: football player. That is a guy if they go for
Speaker 1: a defensive end at twenty six, I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: if it's Will McDonald. Yeah, and you talk about all
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying. But I see the potential.
Speaker 1: There's the people in the room, there's people in that
Speaker 1: room that will fight for Will McDonald. Yeah, And there's
Speaker 1: and that's a great thing about it. If we were
Speaker 1: in a draft room, she would fight for Will McDonald,
Speaker 1: and you would fight against her for Will McDonald. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't want to go that is this a
Speaker 1: byproduct because you do see it on film. You see
Speaker 1: some of the flashes like Zach stops with McDonald specifically,
Speaker 1: but he's a great example in any other draft class.
Speaker 1: Is he out of the first round, but because he's
Speaker 1: sitting at six foot four, two forty, he has that size,
Speaker 1: he has the frame, he has the potential. She's talking
Speaker 1: about the trace I'm talking about and a draft class
Speaker 1: that doesn't match up the same time. I don't even know,
Speaker 1: but I think this that's what I'm saying though this
Speaker 1: draft class. This is a very D D N heavy drafts. Yes,
Speaker 1: and that's part of it. That's part of why there's
Speaker 1: so much discussion. But also too, I think when you
Speaker 1: start it's even to a point of where we look
Speaker 1: at linebacker. If you're just a regular linebacker and all
Speaker 1: you do is linebacker stuff, we're bored, which you yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta be able to So what That's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is like, is the DN outside linebacker position becoming
Speaker 1: something where you can get Like we're talking about if
Speaker 1: you're a little undersized or whatever the case may be,
Speaker 1: maybe teams are like, we can put some weight on him,
Speaker 1: we can we can help him get better in that
Speaker 1: position or whatever. I just feel like, I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: personally right. I'm not gonna I'm tired of labeling so
Speaker 1: many of these great athletes at edge is undersized. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's too many of them that are undersized that are good.
Speaker 1: So we can play like there's certain traits that I
Speaker 1: don't think you can coach. That's like a Nick Hampton
Speaker 1: for example. We're just comparing Nick Hampton app state Will McDonald.
Speaker 1: Will McDonald's a guy. The reason he frustrates me when
Speaker 1: he wants to turn it on, it's there. It's just
Speaker 1: not consistent to me. There's times where he's getting blocked
Speaker 1: by guys he has no business being blocked by. But
Speaker 1: then the next snap, all of a sudden, here you go.
Speaker 1: You've got the bend, you've got the dipping rip. You
Speaker 1: see the burst off the line of scrimmage. The talents there,
Speaker 1: there's no question with a Will McDonalds just gotta get
Speaker 1: him agitated, right, But the differences, Nick Hampton, he's not
Speaker 1: quitting on any play. This dude hustled him to the football.
Speaker 1: You watch him against Texas A and M. He recovers
Speaker 1: two fumbles, one of them's ten plus yards down the field.
Speaker 1: Ye right, I can't teach the motor. I can't teach
Speaker 1: that relentless type of play. You have it or you don't.
Speaker 1: Where would you take Will McDonald second round is so
Speaker 1: you've got a second round grade? Would you take him
Speaker 1: early second round? Like if you let's say the Cowboys
Speaker 1: trade it out, they trade it out, they pulled the
Speaker 1: parachute at twenty six, and we'll talk about some trade
Speaker 1: scenarios in our third segment. It could be interesting. Would
Speaker 1: you take him at thirty five? You can get a
Speaker 1: pick at thirty five, or he's my thirty eighth best
Speaker 1: player on my board? Yeah, I think I went through
Speaker 1: my top one hundred because I just knew that I
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be able to add anybody else into
Speaker 1: that top one hundred. Sure, so I'm gonna I'm gonna stack.
Speaker 1: I'm stacking my board. I stacked it. He's my thirty
Speaker 1: eighth best player, and I'll tell you how I got him.
Speaker 1: You're talking about guys like the guys you maybe realistically
Speaker 1: have a shot at Noland Smith. I got old Smith
Speaker 1: at twenty one, Jelari at twenty nine, McDonald at thirty eight,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be really wrong about van Ness, but
Speaker 1: I got him at forty one. Hey, I'm just saying McDonald.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. Where do you have Miles
Speaker 1: Murphy from Clemson? Just fourteen? Okay, so he's up there. See,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. If you're talking about second round guys,
Speaker 1: if they were and again, I think that if they
Speaker 1: went into a trade back mode and I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're going to trade out of the first round,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: McDonald is a pick if they if they traded back
Speaker 1: into the top of the second round in that McDonald
Speaker 1: would be there would be a guy, and that I
Speaker 1: would But you have to compare him to whatever else
Speaker 1: does tight ends the guards. I think we're getting really
Speaker 1: close the fact that we're hearing reports that they visited
Speaker 1: with Darnel Wright the Tennessee and we've talked about him.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna go on, Ricord Darnel writes
Speaker 1: the nineteenth best player on my board. There you go, okay.
Speaker 1: So with that being said, With that being said, he's
Speaker 1: better than Tyler Smith, who you took it the same
Speaker 1: you know, the Ta Tames, same spot last year. So
Speaker 1: if they took Darnell right the tackle from Tennessee at
Speaker 1: twenty six, I wouldn't be happier than that than them
Speaker 1: taking Towards or or TCU. Kid you said, you said
Speaker 1: right high. Yeah, I have right at nineteen, Towards at
Speaker 1: thirty and at thirty four on my top one hundred. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean going back to McDonald, I just have edges
Speaker 1: that I like more like I like King Felix at
Speaker 1: a case state more. I would take him before that,
Speaker 1: I think O Gilari is better. I would take b
Speaker 1: Jo Gilari as well. Certainly Nolan Smith and Miles Murphy.
Speaker 1: I've got ahead of both of those guys. But if
Speaker 1: you were to trade back and Felix and a dk
Speaker 1: Zoma is sitting there, I'd rather take him than a
Speaker 1: Will McDonald. So it's it's interesting because and I you
Speaker 1: should mentioned this earlier. It is such an edge heavy class,
Speaker 1: the top heavy parts of this edge. I have fourteen
Speaker 1: addreshers in my top one hundred right now. Yeah, fourteen.
Speaker 1: It's very that's talented group. There's a lot of guys there.
Speaker 1: So does that deter you away from who is your
Speaker 1: last guy? Who is your last just squeaked in, yeah,
Speaker 1: uh Colby Wooden from Auburn, Okay, I have a third
Speaker 1: round grade on Colby Wooden from Auburn. I think the
Speaker 1: last guy for me would be Young from Tennessee. Byron
Speaker 1: Young from Tennessee would be He's number ninety five on
Speaker 1: my board right now. He's one oh four on mine,
Speaker 1: so he's not too far off. What do you What
Speaker 1: do you like about Byron Young? I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: Byron Young to me. I mean, if you if you
Speaker 1: just watch him play against some of the better, uh
Speaker 1: the better tackles that they had in the sec This
Speaker 1: guy made plays he uh you know, his pass rush.
Speaker 1: I think there's I think when you when you when
Speaker 1: you when you really really study him, and that ability
Speaker 1: that he has to finish the way he does. I
Speaker 1: mean because he plays on both sides of the defense,
Speaker 1: and I think his ability to close when he has
Speaker 1: a chance to run, he can really make to play
Speaker 1: the burst, the explosive. This he can capture the edge
Speaker 1: you talk about, the dip underneath the blockers and the
Speaker 1: free himself the length to keep blockers off his body.
Speaker 1: He plays with his hands. I really like that. So
Speaker 1: he could I said, you know, maybe if he has
Speaker 1: a knock, he does a decent job of holding the
Speaker 1: point of attack, but you could, you know, but you
Speaker 1: don't see him getting driven off the ball all that much.
Speaker 1: So I think when you put him on the move,
Speaker 1: you can use him in the twist game and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I think that's where Byron Young can really
Speaker 1: really help you. Big fan of Byron Yellingham and we
Speaker 1: talked about this last week. I think you look at
Speaker 1: the timing of his get off off the snap, he
Speaker 1: might have some of the best explosion burst get off
Speaker 1: amongst any of the edge rushers. For me, it was
Speaker 1: it is he doesn't get knocked off the ball, but
Speaker 1: he needs to play with more power and maybe needs
Speaker 1: to put on a little bit of strength to He
Speaker 1: just doesn't get off blocks as consistently as you'd like
Speaker 1: to see. But he's a splash player for me, like
Speaker 1: I think Byron Young, if you if you don't take
Speaker 1: an edge early, you want to take a guy in
Speaker 1: that third round range, I'd be a big fan of
Speaker 1: taking him out of Tennessee. What do you think about Amisha? Um?
Speaker 1: I let his hands like you talked about, I wrote
Speaker 1: down heavy hands, yep. So when he's chopping that hill
Speaker 1: or he's he's hand fighting, and I think that's advanced
Speaker 1: to some degree for you know, asolutely he talked. I
Speaker 1: listened to Tank talk about hand tech. That's not something
Speaker 1: he really mixed into his game until the latter part.
Speaker 1: So um and you talked about his length. I feel
Speaker 1: like he knows how to keep people at bay right
Speaker 1: with his arms. He understands spacing as an edge player,
Speaker 1: and I think that's important. So I also too, I
Speaker 1: remember when I was asking y'all like to have y'all
Speaker 1: gotten them mixed up? I got them mixed up. Byron
Speaker 1: youngs y'all if y'all don't know. And there's one that
Speaker 1: plays DT for Alabama, right, we were talking about that
Speaker 1: I was interested in as well. So so this is
Speaker 1: a great wrap up to the conversation that we had
Speaker 1: because Byron Young is another one of the prospects that
Speaker 1: when you look at the size, it's not idea. It's
Speaker 1: not perfect. It doesn't it's not he's not a prototypical
Speaker 1: player because it's hight seventeenth percentile weight, fourteenth, arm length, thirteenth,
Speaker 1: hand size, twelfth all very much so below the average
Speaker 1: in terms of edge rushers in the NFL combine when
Speaker 1: he was measured. However, like Zach was saying, I mean
Speaker 1: athleticism very it jumps off the page. Ten yard split
Speaker 1: was there, forty yard dash? I mean, you go out
Speaker 1: and you run a four four three, you're gonna you're
Speaker 1: gonna turn some heads. And he did that. But that's
Speaker 1: the thing. You can see that on film. You can
Speaker 1: see him getting around guys, you see him getting inside.
Speaker 1: He plays that finesse game. But I like the hands too.
Speaker 1: There's some power, there's some strength in there too that's
Speaker 1: able to kind of combine it. I like him as
Speaker 1: a I had a third round grade on the guy,
Speaker 1: or fourth round grade, early fourth round grade. How y'all
Speaker 1: feel about him as a run defender? You know, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think to me, there was a
Speaker 1: little bit I used the word decent and I hate
Speaker 1: when I use words like that, but idiot want to
Speaker 1: cop out word. I don't know what I was doing.
Speaker 1: It might have been one oh five in the morning
Speaker 1: when I'm type sitting. Good for you, the decent RUNDI
Speaker 1: what's decent Brian really to be honest? Average relative? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but no, I think when you know, it's not one
Speaker 1: of those things where you say, man, this is a
Speaker 1: this is a a trait flaw. I don't see that
Speaker 1: as being a trait flaw with this guy's no liability
Speaker 1: that he's really better when the ball is going away
Speaker 1: and he could just run his you know, pursue the chase. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: no question. All right, I like it. Good conversation, guys.
Speaker 1: Let's let's answer some Twitter questions, including maybe Kicker late
Speaker 1: in the draft. A lot of people asking about Kicker.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that situation when we come back
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Speaker 1: Five questions. Here we go on some Twitter on the twenty,
Speaker 1: Twitter on the twenty. Here we go, all right, what
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Speaker 1: over here today. Day Ryan, it's the draft in the
Speaker 1: back room. Let's feeling the Oregon there. We had multiple
Speaker 1: and I at least five, six, seven, I haven't counted
Speaker 1: all of them, but multiple questions about kicker. So I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say everybody's name. Jake Moody. There we go.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the kicking situation with the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: Is it okay? Brett Mohurt doesn't seemed like he's an option,
Speaker 1: at least from what we've heard from the breadcrumbs of
Speaker 1: the Jones family in front office. But is it gonna
Speaker 1: be a rookie kicker or are you gonna go out
Speaker 1: and get a veteran kicker? What's your option on the
Speaker 1: table if you're looking at specially you just kind of
Speaker 1: talked about this in the previous show on the break
Speaker 1: was I was hearing whispers that Bones has got some
Speaker 1: guys in mind. I meant, I just did the name
Speaker 1: out Jake Moody because of Michigan. He's the best kicker
Speaker 1: in the in the draft, him and Chad Ryland from
Speaker 1: Maryland or the two kickers everybody's talking about. Jake Moody
Speaker 1: might be a fourth fifth round guy. He would probably
Speaker 1: be the first kicker off the board for sure. Listen
Speaker 1: to people talk about or with Bones situation that he
Speaker 1: had two or three guys in mind. And when we
Speaker 1: get to post draft, that's when we're gonna probably hear
Speaker 1: about a veteran kicker that's gonna be okay. So I
Speaker 1: couldn't get any nat I couldn't get any names. But
Speaker 1: like I say, the two kickers, like Jake Moody from
Speaker 1: Michigan is a fourth fifth round guy that's off. Dane
Speaker 1: Bruegler's the Beast, which everybody should get. Yes, came out
Speaker 1: this week. It's fantastic, it's always and then Chad Ryland
Speaker 1: from Maryland is a six or seventh round guy. So
Speaker 1: those are the two guys that Dane has possibly, but
Speaker 1: there's probably he's glisted twenty possible kickers that could be
Speaker 1: undrafted free agents. So maybe somebody out of that group
Speaker 1: will show up as well, any any priority free agent
Speaker 1: sort of talk, because yeah, you could go out and
Speaker 1: get a veteran, but maybe one of these guys is
Speaker 1: on the board, on the radar of bones fossil and
Speaker 1: he's able to That's that's his job though. He's going
Speaker 1: to evaluate all these kickers. I mean, he's going to
Speaker 1: talk to the coaches, he's you know, it's his responsibility.
Speaker 1: Like when Will McClay is going to ask him, is
Speaker 1: there any kicker that we need to go throw cash at?
Speaker 1: They did it with what Garabay, right, Yeah, they went
Speaker 1: out and got Garabay from Texas Tech last year. They
Speaker 1: determined that you know he was you know when it
Speaker 1: was Dicker, the kicker from Texas. All these names of guys,
Speaker 1: it's like, no on all this Garabay, he's one of
Speaker 1: the best in the country. And then we all got
Speaker 1: to Oxnard and he was, you know, he was he
Speaker 1: wouldn't quite getting it down and that one didn't go
Speaker 1: very well. No, so that's what I'm saying you you've
Speaker 1: got it. But but let's be honest here, and I
Speaker 1: said this on the break. If you're going to play
Speaker 1: defense and you're going to run the ball, you better
Speaker 1: damn will have a kicker. No, better have a kicker,
Speaker 1: because you're going to be in games where if it's close,
Speaker 1: it's tight, you do not want to be missing field
Speaker 1: goals and you can't just kind of say, okay, well
Speaker 1: we're gonna run the ball and because that just that
Speaker 1: takes time, sure, does you know? And if you're not
Speaker 1: going to score a whole hell of a lot of
Speaker 1: points and you're gonna play defense, you better be able
Speaker 1: to knock those down with a minute seven left in
Speaker 1: the game. Happens to be a kicker out there who
Speaker 1: is a free agent that you might have seen in
Speaker 1: the playoffs that has never missed a postseason field goal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: cost a little penny, but he's he's good. He's absolutely
Speaker 1: very good down with it? Yeah, uh sorry, I have
Speaker 1: a question though, Yes, what place do you have to
Speaker 1: be in to draft a kicker? And I'm and I'm
Speaker 1: not saying in an at insulting way, I'm really asking,
Speaker 1: like what because it seems if you're the Raiders from
Speaker 1: way back in the day the first round they drafted
Speaker 1: Jenikowski Sebastian Jenikowski with the eighteenth overall pick, I was with.
Speaker 1: I talked to John Gruden after that one. John and
Speaker 1: I were friends. I go, you just drafted a kiarric
Speaker 1: He guys, yeah, we just got the best kicker ever.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, and the guy played for a thousand years.
Speaker 1: He did, he played for a long time. It signed
Speaker 1: multiple contract. That's some teams. Some teams the Raiders have
Speaker 1: a history of that they drafted. They've drafted punter from
Speaker 1: the first round too. Are there some guys that you
Speaker 1: look at them maybe are you're like, do you have
Speaker 1: that mindset like if this guy hits just similarly of like, okay,
Speaker 1: if this guy hits, he could be a great kicker
Speaker 1: for a long time. And it's something we're not gonna
Speaker 1: have to deal with for a while. Is that why
Speaker 1: people would go kicker, because that's why you would draft
Speaker 1: the guys if you think you you can have him
Speaker 1: long term and you can rely on him. Yeah for years, yeah,
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah. Kate Org is a great ending. So
Speaker 1: it's not a desperation thing to need a kicker, because
Speaker 1: it just seems so. I don't see it happened at all.
Speaker 1: But you got to think about think about some of
Speaker 1: the fourth and fifth round picks you've missed on that
Speaker 1: if you would have just drafted that kicker, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: have to you know, what's my guy at the Ravens
Speaker 1: That Justin Tucker? Justin Tucker. He's the best kicker probably
Speaker 1: ever outside of vintage. Okay, like maybe he's posing in
Speaker 1: on that maybe three or four years ago. I mean,
Speaker 1: he still make feel he's still one of the best
Speaker 1: there is. If you told me I could give the
Speaker 1: twenty sixth pick of the draft for Tucker for Tucker,
Speaker 1: I would think about doing it, knowing knowing that I
Speaker 1: have my kicker. He's as valuable as any He's as
Speaker 1: valuable as any player you might drafted twenty six Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you were bringing up the point. I think it was
Speaker 1: after training camp, Like would you have gone out and
Speaker 1: swapped taking York, who was from Prosper ended up going
Speaker 1: in the fourth round of the Browns for your fourth
Speaker 1: round pick, Jake Ferguson. Yeah, now, I think we're all
Speaker 1: super pumped about Fergie, especially if they don't go tight end.
Speaker 1: He's your tight end one. But some of the kicking
Speaker 1: woes they had, and Kaid York was good last year
Speaker 1: for the rounds, I mean, yeah, I don't if you
Speaker 1: take a kicker in the fourth round that you like,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever. There's Tea. Tampa took Aguayo Aguayo,
Speaker 1: Roberto Aguayo Florida Stay second round, second round, and he
Speaker 1: was out of the league by the end of his
Speaker 1: rookie contract. He was buzzed Justin Tucker for instance, I
Speaker 1: mean undrafted free agent from twenty twelve. I mean, it happens.
Speaker 1: It's just it's luck of the draw. Sometimes it's like
Speaker 1: that with the draft anyways. So you got to find
Speaker 1: a way to kind of balance that out. You might
Speaker 1: look at it like if you have a compensatory pick,
Speaker 1: you know that fifth round, compensatory three, and you're like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna go ahead and draft
Speaker 1: a kicker here and let's you know, everyone'll say, oh,
Speaker 1: look at them being smart. No, it's look at them
Speaker 1: being like we don't have a kicker. Yeah, we need
Speaker 1: to fill the spot. Yeah. There's a lot of things
Speaker 1: that Brian says on this show that I want to
Speaker 1: start making a T shirt Lyne out of last year,
Speaker 1: it was the I'm car Loft. That was my favorite
Speaker 1: part of the whole. This one was you damned well
Speaker 1: better have a kicker like that, Like, damn well, have
Speaker 1: a kicker. Just have that on a shirt, and I
Speaker 1: think it would sell all right. Rose As, how many
Speaker 1: actual first round grades do you guys have on your board?
Speaker 1: I feel like this year the second round grade start
Speaker 1: after about nine or ten guys. Is that a fair assessment?
Speaker 1: So he's he's a little bit lower on this draft
Speaker 1: normally eighteen to twenty maybe even up to twenty two,
Speaker 1: twenty four. How many of you have? Brian Johnston's wide
Speaker 1: receiver from TCU is my twentieth player and the last
Speaker 1: one in the first Wow. Okay, so you have twenty
Speaker 1: full first round grade? I do, Zach, do you what
Speaker 1: do you got? Yeah? I'm in that like twenty to
Speaker 1: twenty five range. Probably the same the same there. I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit more optimistic about the receivers than I
Speaker 1: think some others are. And I've got like four receivers
Speaker 1: that i would take in the high in the first year.
Speaker 1: I think high. It's very fringe, you know, first second
Speaker 1: kind of range. I agree with you. I actually, Brian,
Speaker 1: when we first started, when we first started the draft show,
Speaker 1: remember we like one of our first shows, I was like, dang,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good corners, and it was like,
Speaker 1: it's not that many good receivers. But when we start
Speaker 1: looking into these receivers, I think it depends on what
Speaker 1: you consider good and what you're looking for schematically, what
Speaker 1: you want this guy to what does guy to do?
Speaker 1: So I agree with you. I think I do have
Speaker 1: a few more guys I would be okay to comfortable. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely so, I would say I think I have about
Speaker 1: twenty two twenty in that same kind of the same
Speaker 1: range as you. That's usually what you're gonna get every
Speaker 1: year when you do this, I always find there's between
Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty two. Yeah, that's that's the number that
Speaker 1: you're trying. You generally live with. Last guy I have
Speaker 1: is I'm trying to find the last guy because they're
Speaker 1: all by position. I think it's Jamir Gibbs and he's
Speaker 1: at nineteen for me. So I've got nineteen first round
Speaker 1: grades that I can see my twenty first player. Just
Speaker 1: the first guy at the top of the second is
Speaker 1: Nolan Smith, and Nolan Smith might very well be a
Speaker 1: first round Yeah, the first round grade on Nold. Okay,
Speaker 1: you guys are probably gonna be right. We'll see, probably
Speaker 1: gonna be right. You think he's too small, No, I'm
Speaker 1: just okay, we gotta stop. Damn it, you guys. Nolan.
Speaker 1: Nolan is like the perfect definition of that because he's
Speaker 1: got that very kind of slender frame. He he doesn't act,
Speaker 1: doesn't Yeah, he is more of a Micah Parsons type
Speaker 1: comp for me, when you look at deal the edge, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me let me add it all right, flu asks
Speaker 1: which draft prospects do you not want the division rivals
Speaker 1: to draft in the first round? Which ones do you
Speaker 1: think that are possible? I mean the first one's got
Speaker 1: to be Love of the Star podcasts. The other day
Speaker 1: we were on Love of the Star podcast. We were
Speaker 1: on the other day and Brian Baldinger was on and
Speaker 1: he lives in Philadelphia, and we just were talking about
Speaker 1: Bijean Robinson and and I've never seen a fan base
Speaker 1: more lined up for a guy than they are for
Speaker 1: Bijan Robinson at ten. And our fan base is like,
Speaker 1: please don't do it, Please don't do it, in a
Speaker 1: way of like we don't want too though, because obviously,
Speaker 1: like a month ago, and there's been a lot of
Speaker 1: Bijan boz for the Cowboys that Philly is patty. They
Speaker 1: know what they're doing. They're doing it on purpose. Probably
Speaker 1: they not even let's move on running back team Dallas
Speaker 1: Goddard right in front of the Cowboys. But you're you also,
Speaker 1: you brought it up about they're lining up in the
Speaker 1: in city. I mean, they're doing radio programs about that.
Speaker 1: You brought it up at kicker you said, you said,
Speaker 1: what type of position do you need to be in
Speaker 1: to be to draft a kicker? It's the same thing
Speaker 1: with Bijean. What type of position do you have to
Speaker 1: be in as a team to draft just the best
Speaker 1: player on the board. Yeah, I can see the ELI
Speaker 1: is ready to do that. Their minds that they got
Speaker 1: two ones they got there. They're coming off a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl appearance, they've got what was the best offensive line
Speaker 1: in the league. It's a luxury kick. They can afford
Speaker 1: to make that pick. Not But look, people, just at
Speaker 1: twenty six. It's not like you took Zeke in the
Speaker 1: top five of the draft. You're picking at twenty six.
Speaker 1: I don't think Bijean Robinson's there. He's too darned good.
Speaker 1: But I don't understand the hate of oh, my gosh,
Speaker 1: the positional value. I got annoyed yesterday on on the
Speaker 1: g bag Nation. I've heard complaints about tight end. Oh
Speaker 1: the positional value. Who are the good first round tight ends?
Speaker 1: You can't take them? Oh the positional value at running back, linebacker,
Speaker 1: you can't. You know what, screw it, Let's pass on
Speaker 1: the pick. Let's not take a player there at twenty six,
Speaker 1: because we're gonna nitpick every single position that's now worth
Speaker 1: the first round pick. It gets a little bit annoying.
Speaker 1: Just let me take the best player, and that would
Speaker 1: be be j On one hundred percent, ten days out
Speaker 1: of Sunday. And I made that up. I don't even
Speaker 1: think that's the same. But that's how irritated feel. I
Speaker 1: can feel your rage, my friend. It's frustrating. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: we'll make we'll make excuses, and here you can't do that.
Speaker 1: You can't do that. Look, tell you what the player
Speaker 1: turns out to be good for years from now, you're
Speaker 1: not going to be complaining that you took them. I
Speaker 1: don't know, if you're real quick. I don't know if
Speaker 1: i'd want the Commanders to get a Will Levis, would
Speaker 1: you rather than get a Will Levis or like an
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson or just not a quarterback? I just go
Speaker 1: I think with Will Levis, I have him ahead of
Speaker 1: Richardson as what I do. What about Hindon Hooker, Hindon
Speaker 1: Hooker I have behind those guys. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I would give you know, if you just off my
Speaker 1: top one hundred, don't give a number one? Yeah, don't
Speaker 1: give them. Please? Do you have Hindon Hooker number one? Please? No?
Speaker 1: What did not say all of that? Okay? You I
Speaker 1: could see it in your eyes. You're like, I will
Speaker 1: say this. I wouldn't. I don't particularly want the Giants
Speaker 1: to get Addison the wide receiver, Okay. I don't want
Speaker 1: the Giants to take John Michael Schmidtz. And I'm really
Speaker 1: nervous that's going to happen the center around in Minnesota
Speaker 1: at twenty five. Who I'm in love with. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: heard a lot of buzz out of New York. I mean,
Speaker 1: think about it if they make that pick. I was
Speaker 1: just on their podcast so that they were talking wide
Speaker 1: receivers in the corners. You've got two book end tackles
Speaker 1: you've taken. Now in the first couple of rounds. You
Speaker 1: add him the best interior linement in the draft and
Speaker 1: John Michael Schmidts. All of a sudden you figured out
Speaker 1: your offense. Trying to kiss up a little bit to say,
Speaker 1: kuon Barkley, who did not sign his franchise. Uh, is
Speaker 1: it Andrew Thomas Thomas? Yeah, okay, first rounder out of Georgia.
Speaker 1: He's left. Yeah, he's there right up. Yeah, who I'm
Speaker 1: not thinking about that was not they They took the
Speaker 1: Bama kid and he had a little bit of an
Speaker 1: up and down year. We had Flowers too, was another
Speaker 1: Flowers was not long time ago. He was not good.
Speaker 1: They moved him to guard and he was much better.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. They signed the Patriots tackle
Speaker 1: a few years solder he was he was a miss
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, they draft a lot of injury. Hernandez,
Speaker 1: the guard at a Utah was the guy and that
Speaker 1: one didn't work out. But Schmitz would be a hell
Speaker 1: of a pit surprised me, Brian talking about the commanders,
Speaker 1: because if I'm not mistaken, you were pretty high on
Speaker 1: Sam how No. No, that's what I'm saying. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I I am, and I think they should have played
Speaker 1: Sam how earlier last year to kind of figure out
Speaker 1: what Sam Howe was all about. You know, I do like,
Speaker 1: but I worry about them. Trust me. Will Levis is
Speaker 1: a better player than Sam how You know that. That's
Speaker 1: I feared the Commander's actually getting a quarterback because with
Speaker 1: the skill that they had, they're building their offensive line.
Speaker 1: I that defense is pretty good. I don't need them
Speaker 1: to get better at quarter with you. If I'm a
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan, dang if I'm If I'm Philly though, and
Speaker 1: I need safety. This is this is not the draft
Speaker 1: to be like I need a safety. They need safeties.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe maybe some will fall to them
Speaker 1: well or just be there, because Lord knows, there's not
Speaker 1: a whole bunch that aren't gonna be in the box.
Speaker 1: What is happening. It's a free safety, y'all, what is happening? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of strong it's a drought of it.
Speaker 1: It's free. Like what is the free safety position becoming
Speaker 1: or is it? Is? It just not that many of them.
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's the way the college game
Speaker 1: is being played that you see a lot of true
Speaker 1: free safeties. Okay, yeah, I just you know the way
Speaker 1: that your people are spreading me out and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: so you're having a kind of you know, you're having
Speaker 1: to trying to keep safeties in the box in order
Speaker 1: to handle the run because you're so spread out. So
Speaker 1: I will say this, my guy Johnson at Texas A
Speaker 1: and m Antonio Johnson, that's he's a heck of a player.
Speaker 1: If you if you ask me if I can have
Speaker 1: a free safety, I can. I'll take your guys. Skinner
Speaker 1: skinner from a boy Boise, I'll take that cat too.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I love that. I think it's
Speaker 1: more of a third round kind of a group, depending
Speaker 1: on what you think about Branch from Alabama. You know,
Speaker 1: people got him at corner safety. I mean, I've talked
Speaker 1: to everybody. I'm just going to see him getting drafted.
Speaker 1: That's I think he's the first safety that's going to
Speaker 1: be off the floor. Agreed. And Gentavious Martin from Illinois, Illinois. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and geez that Illinois secondary. He was a late watch
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna come out on
Speaker 1: the record here and he was a late watch. I
Speaker 1: got him at ninety on my board. Did not put
Speaker 1: him in the draft magazine as a bio. He was
Speaker 1: not in my top ten safeties. He's number seven on
Speaker 1: my late fan. I used to do that magazine myself.
Speaker 1: It's part of it whenever you have to turn it
Speaker 1: in a month ahead of time. Yeah, but I went
Speaker 1: back and watched him, and then of course the Beast
Speaker 1: came out a couple days after. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I think I missed this guy. And then Dane's got
Speaker 1: him like what three or four in his list, and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, man, like I missed him. But that's okay,
Speaker 1: all right. Another question, Casey says, if Ferguson or Peyton
Speaker 1: hinder Shot were in this year's draft, where would you
Speaker 1: rank them among the other tight ends that are in
Speaker 1: the group Pitt Shot or Jake Ferguson If you were
Speaker 1: to rerack them and put them in this draft instead
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty two draft works I have them.
Speaker 1: I would take I would take Mayor, Kincaid, Musgrave, Washington
Speaker 1: Craft over all of them, and even Laporta. I think
Speaker 1: it's what I would do. They would be behind all
Speaker 1: those guys am on my on my book. Yep. I
Speaker 1: don't know that they would be in the top eight.
Speaker 1: I mean I think that you could make a case
Speaker 1: for a guy like Josh Wiley, not a Cincinnati uh
Speaker 1: even you know a Brenton Schoonmaker from Schoomaker. I like
Speaker 1: Schoomaker from Michigan. I like Strange from Penn State. Did
Speaker 1: you mention him? Ago? Just mentioned him? See that That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I like Ferguson would kind of be
Speaker 1: be right there with a painter or I had Ferguson
Speaker 1: a fifth round last year on my board, so I
Speaker 1: you know, I to me, I you know, do you
Speaker 1: miss him? Yeah? Maybe so. But I think that I
Speaker 1: think this is I think this class at tight ends
Speaker 1: we have is is very I'm not gonna say rare,
Speaker 1: because the positions starting to become more important. You're getting
Speaker 1: these big wide receivers that convert to tight ends. You know,
Speaker 1: that they use in the slots and stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they would be to me, those are fourth fifth round
Speaker 1: guys in this current Yeah, right around ten maybe for
Speaker 1: Fergie tenth best tight end in the class, I would Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think i'd have them. Well, you're talking about drafting
Speaker 1: one at twenty six because these guys, I mean the
Speaker 1: Kincaid's and the Mayors and the and the you know
Speaker 1: the others are or Musgraves and upgrade the position. It's
Speaker 1: an upgrade and it's not a shot at your own guys. No,
Speaker 1: Is that why they're going? Is that why they're higher?
Speaker 1: You know, just because we're talking about every position and
Speaker 1: how everyone each draft is different, with this draft in particular.
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it just because this is just so
Speaker 1: happens to be a special bunch or just a more
Speaker 1: skilled bunch. Is that what? That's what y'all say? I think? So,
Speaker 1: I think this is a really good draft for tight ends.
Speaker 1: I just think there's a good amount of them. I
Speaker 1: think college football in general is starting to catch up
Speaker 1: to the NFL and how to utilize tight ends too.
Speaker 1: So these guys are more pro ready than ever, and
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing kind of the the byproduct of that.
Speaker 1: It's hand in hand to what you were just talking about.
Speaker 1: You have a tight end that could play in the
Speaker 1: slot or flex that gets up the field. You don't
Speaker 1: have a safety that can cover it's a match. You
Speaker 1: don't have a linebacker that can cover him. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know that's what these colleges are figuring out. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: even even though you know, uh, you just go through
Speaker 1: the list. You mentioned Wiley from Cincinnati. I mean, these guys,
Speaker 1: they they play him flex, they play them outside, they're
Speaker 1: up the field, Washington you I mean, I was watching
Speaker 1: Stetson bend it the other day from Georgia and next
Speaker 1: thing you know, they're throwing the ball in the red
Speaker 1: zone and who's he's throwing it to? Washington? You know why?
Speaker 1: Because nobody can cover Washington absolutely seven seven luck Nobody
Speaker 1: can cover that big guy running down the middle of
Speaker 1: the field like that. Yeah. It's one of the best
Speaker 1: mismatches you can have on the field, period. And and
Speaker 1: you look at these tight ends, it seems like the
Speaker 1: best athletes are playing tight end. I mean you're getting
Speaker 1: defensive ends that are converting. I mean sometimes you get
Speaker 1: the opposite, like Dawn White, Ken White at a Georgia Tech,
Speaker 1: who wasn't tight end. Now he's playing defensive end. But
Speaker 1: the athlete that is now playing the position, it's no
Speaker 1: longer just hey, let me run a curl for five yards,
Speaker 1: catch it, fall down. These guys are stretching the field
Speaker 1: and making plays down the field. I had a conversation
Speaker 1: with Mike McCarthy last year and he said his favorite
Speaker 1: type of football player period, not just position position less
Speaker 1: six foot five, two hundred and forty five pounds. You
Speaker 1: can't have enough of those guys, the long, lanky athletic players,
Speaker 1: and the most of the time that's gonna be edge rusher,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be tight end, and there's gonna be where
Speaker 1: those two guys fit in the best. So the more
Speaker 1: you can have on your team not only for their
Speaker 1: position will fit with tight end and edge rusher, but
Speaker 1: with special teams and having a lot of those guys
Speaker 1: to rotate through. That's why they do utilize those positions
Speaker 1: so well. Last question, so we can get to five,
Speaker 1: Connery says, I have a feeling that one of the
Speaker 1: top corners may fall to the Cowboys at twenty six.
Speaker 1: Would that be an easy choice if one of them
Speaker 1: is to make that make it and are you in
Speaker 1: a position to make that pack? All right? At the
Speaker 1: top corners? Are we talking about Porter Gonzalez Witherspoon. I
Speaker 1: don't think any of those guys he's saying hypothetically, yes,
Speaker 1: I take any one of those guys absolutely. I would
Speaker 1: absolutely take because that's players nine, eleven, and thirteen on
Speaker 1: my top one hundred. Is that a CD lamp situation
Speaker 1: where you feel like you're good at the position but
Speaker 1: you just can't pass. You can't go wrong with anyone
Speaker 1: of those corners, Porter Witherspoons, You can't go wrong with
Speaker 1: any right, And that's another thing. It's like, oh, you've
Speaker 1: got corners, so why are you gonna take you corner? No?
Speaker 1: All right, look at look at your roster, and guys
Speaker 1: didn't you didn't at the end of the season, Right,
Speaker 1: you have how many off the street and how many
Speaker 1: of you have that are beyond this year? You're not
Speaker 1: just picking for this year. You're not just picking to
Speaker 1: line up here in twenty twenty three. This is a
Speaker 1: pick for multiple seasons. Is he Mquamo one year deal?
Speaker 1: Gilmore one year deal? Right? Jordan Lewis is a guy
Speaker 1: that's going to be up after this year, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a need at the position, so that that player
Speaker 1: might not get on the field a ton rookie season
Speaker 1: maybe due to injuries. You need like four good corners
Speaker 1: now in the NFL. But that's a that's an insurance
Speaker 1: play for the future. And then you also have the
Speaker 1: contract situation with Diggs coming up, Well, you need that
Speaker 1: player probably play special teams because you lost a couple
Speaker 1: of guys on that side. Speaking of special teams, that's
Speaker 1: why I have a question for you guys. Looking at
Speaker 1: this class, I feel like I keep seeing dbs that
Speaker 1: have returned ability. Yeah, I keep seeing wide receivers that
Speaker 1: have return ability. I was looking at Trey Palmer last
Speaker 1: night from the Braska right did the cup. I love
Speaker 1: me some Cavant Turpin. But when you look at this
Speaker 1: draft class and how many guys have returnability that could
Speaker 1: not only help you there, but be maybe players later
Speaker 1: down on along the line, did they jumped a gun?
Speaker 1: They did? They jumped a gun with paying him? Well,
Speaker 1: do you guys think, do you guys think that maybe
Speaker 1: there's someone in this draft that you could get better
Speaker 1: in another position and they have returnability? Because I just
Speaker 1: feel like I've run into. I think even Sydney Brown
Speaker 1: has return ability. Therebs that have it. There's I mean,
Speaker 1: there's running backs to have it. That's the one knockavent
Speaker 1: against Kavante Turpin, right, is that he's so good at
Speaker 1: being a return man, But what does he contribute outside
Speaker 1: of that role? So I think that I'm just asking, like,
Speaker 1: do you take a player that has return ability with
Speaker 1: that in mind? Because I just feel like there's quite
Speaker 1: a few in this draft. In this draft in particular,
Speaker 1: can I throw a name at you? Then? On your question,
Speaker 1: would you take Dell over Turpin, both of the same size. Absolutely? Yes,
Speaker 1: is a better player, but a better receiver, right, He's
Speaker 1: an incredible route right, Yeah, I don't know. I'm not
Speaker 1: as high on as most people. I'm really not. I
Speaker 1: don't think he was as good as a lot of
Speaker 1: people are saying. I still think he's a decent player,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, But I don't know if you
Speaker 1: could utiz like, what does Tank Dell bring you that
Speaker 1: Kavante Turpin doesn't actual routes? Yeah, I think he's a
Speaker 1: much better route run said the same thing about Turpin
Speaker 1: come out at TCU though, But the thing about the
Speaker 1: thing about Dell is my number one hundred player, and
Speaker 1: I think I got hi miss one hundred because I
Speaker 1: think that you can actually run routes with him. There
Speaker 1: they were there was something that they there was a
Speaker 1: disconnect and maybe it was Kellen Moore and now he's gone,
Speaker 1: but there was a disconnect. I was thinking after the
Speaker 1: bye week that, Okay, get ready for the great for
Speaker 1: the Turpin packages. Get ready for it. You know, never
Speaker 1: saw it. Now he broke some big runs and some
Speaker 1: big games, you know, and he should have had more touchdowns,
Speaker 1: to be honest with if he's not running into kickers
Speaker 1: or other things. I think if you said between those
Speaker 1: guys that are slight built, if you said who could
Speaker 1: play receiver better in a game, I think Dell could
Speaker 1: play better than Turpin in a game. And I think
Speaker 1: his return ability is just as good. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: the knock on Turp is all right, go fight for
Speaker 1: the football. It's a contested football. Can he go up
Speaker 1: and get it or is he going to get kind
Speaker 1: of bullied? Tank Delle goes and gets the ball, man
Speaker 1: like that ball's in the air. Tank deal despite the
Speaker 1: five eight frame, He's gonna go up and make a
Speaker 1: play on the football. Yeah, I would definitely. I think
Speaker 1: I would definitely take did switch him out? Oh, I
Speaker 1: would switch them out a heartbeat. But I just I
Speaker 1: just wondered what the Cavante Turpin thing unless they are
Speaker 1: planning on using him in the offense moving forward. I
Speaker 1: feel like depending on who they draft and if that
Speaker 1: person does have return ability, it'll kind of tell me
Speaker 1: personally what maybe they're looking maybe their vision is there.
Speaker 1: Because Malik Davis is like your number two back right well,
Speaker 1: number three back right right now? I mean Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: is your number one running back now? He was like,
Speaker 1: was he the backup return guy or he was one
Speaker 1: of the return guys that you can't have that. No,
Speaker 1: you're not letting those CD's not doing it either, absolutely,
Speaker 1: So there's no returner besides him if he gets injured,
Speaker 1: who's this guy who's stepping up there? I would like
Speaker 1: to personally maybe bring in a guy that can help
Speaker 1: you somewhere else maybe next year, but has returned to
Speaker 1: build true There you go, great questions all the way
Speaker 1: around Twitter on the twenty. Appreciate you guys. We'll be
Speaker 1: back with it again tomorrow when we come back thumbs
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Speaker 1: Beam running everything in the back. All right. We have
Speaker 1: some trade scenarios. There's been a little bit of buzz,
Speaker 1: a little bit of buzz that the Cowboys may not
Speaker 1: be comfortable staying put at twenty six. So let's take
Speaker 1: a look at some of their options. These are just
Speaker 1: a couple of options, and these are courtesy of CBS Sports.
Speaker 1: Garrett is it Podell? Is that how you say it? Jones? Right?
Speaker 1: Garrett Podell called it thanks for your work. Arrett, appreciate you, Garrett.
Speaker 1: So he put together three different trade scenarios. Two of
Speaker 1: them are trading up to go get a certain prospect.
Speaker 1: I'll outline a prospect in each of these scenarios just
Speaker 1: to make it fun. And the other one is to
Speaker 1: trade out, pull that parachute and go to the second round.
Speaker 1: We're gonna start. I want to first off, I want
Speaker 1: to give a thumbs up or thumbs down. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna do this or are you gonna stay put? Depending
Speaker 1: on the scenario. Trading up to nineteen, you go and
Speaker 1: make a deal. You get on the phone with the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You give Tampa Bay your first round pick,
Speaker 1: your third round pick at ninety and at twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four fourth round pick to go up from twenty six
Speaker 1: to nineteen. The guy that you want to go up
Speaker 1: and get is Jackson Smith and Jickba. He falls to nineteen,
Speaker 1: so inagury concerns, teams aren't necessarily loving the medicals. He
Speaker 1: falls to nineteen. Do you go up and you go
Speaker 1: get your guy Jackson Smith and Jickba at nineteen, Zach
Speaker 1: Will Chuck, I know you like Jackson, Are you in
Speaker 1: on that giving up your first, your third, and a
Speaker 1: fourth next year. It's a lot to give up. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's heading shoulders the best receiver
Speaker 1: in the draft. So if you really want a wide receiver,
Speaker 1: I'm i'd go up and make the move and go
Speaker 1: get that guy like I think JSN is going to
Speaker 1: be that dude. I'm a I'm a big, big fan
Speaker 1: of his game. I'm not really in favor of trading
Speaker 1: up in this draft class, but for Jackson Smith and
Speaker 1: j you don't need to convince me. It's got to
Speaker 1: be the right process. I'm all for it. That's a
Speaker 1: guy like him, Joey Porter from Penn State the corner.
Speaker 1: I would move up for either of those guys and say,
Speaker 1: let's party, would you do it? Aisha? It's a lot
Speaker 1: a third and you're going up seven spots, it's all
Speaker 1: you're going. That's not very far up there, but you're
Speaker 1: getting a guy that you see has fallen right, what
Speaker 1: do you think we got to make a determination here? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: what's we gotta make a determination? Are we We're gonna
Speaker 1: go get a wide receiver? Right on my board, that
Speaker 1: would be the seventeenth best player so I'm I'm in.
Speaker 1: I'm in for going that direction, all right. We got
Speaker 1: to determine, though, who are we going to give up?
Speaker 1: Are we going to give up Zavala North North Carolina State,
Speaker 1: it's a guard pick. Are we gonna give up Spears,
Speaker 1: the running back from Tulane? Yeah? Are we going to
Speaker 1: give up potentially? Uh? How about Hinsley the linebacker from
Speaker 1: UH from Washington State? Yeah? Are we gonna give up
Speaker 1: one of these corners? Phillips Rush, Cameron Smith or Cam Smith?
Speaker 1: Are we gonna give up one of those guys? Are
Speaker 1: we gonna give up maybe a tight end? Are we
Speaker 1: gonna give up maybe Laporta here? Or you know, We've
Speaker 1: got to determine this. There's a lot of good third
Speaker 1: round grades. That's what I'm saying. If you look at
Speaker 1: your board and you say we don't need we could
Speaker 1: we could. We could sit here and pick at twenty
Speaker 1: six and talk about maybe taking Bijean Robinson or taking
Speaker 1: one of these guards, or taking one of these, uh,
Speaker 1: these defensive ends. We could talk about that, but no,
Speaker 1: we're gonna probably lose one of those guys. I was
Speaker 1: talking about Laporta, Zavala, Spears, maybe even our Kansas State
Speaker 1: defensive end, you know Ozama. Yeah, and now I maybe
Speaker 1: maybe have him high. Maybe there's somebody that falls out
Speaker 1: of the back end of the second round that we're
Speaker 1: gonna lose. Yeah, you know, that's what we have to
Speaker 1: determine right now, if we're comfortable not having that third
Speaker 1: round guy of all those names that I kind of mentioned,
Speaker 1: and I just I just went off my board, right,
Speaker 1: I didn't you know, I didn't go off your boards.
Speaker 1: I went off my board. Yeah, that's that's the consideration.
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I don't know if and even
Speaker 1: though that Smith and Jigbi is the seventeenth best player
Speaker 1: on my board, do I want to lose the possibility
Speaker 1: of grabbing a tight end or grabbing another guard, or
Speaker 1: grabbing a running back. You know that I really really like.
Speaker 1: Here's some of the third round options, at least on
Speaker 1: my board at wide receiver. If you were to pass
Speaker 1: on Jackson Smith and Jake Bill, you can maybe pick
Speaker 1: one up later. Cedric Tillman from Tennessee, Tank Dell from Houston,
Speaker 1: At Perry from Wake four is k Shawn Boutet from LSU.
Speaker 1: So there's options there after the first round, But are
Speaker 1: they all as in tossing as Jackson Smith and Jake
Speaker 1: Will probably. Yeah. My options on the third round are
Speaker 1: Tillman Mims read from Michigan State, Rice Smiths mu Perry
Speaker 1: from wake Force. Those are my options in the third round,
Speaker 1: and Marvin Mims. I'm very open and out. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'd be very interested. But to me, if you can
Speaker 1: go up and get the best player at the position,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be upset about that. And my
Speaker 1: number one guy, I would sacrifice the additional pick because
Speaker 1: I think you're cool. You're cool with not picking in
Speaker 1: the third then on that, right, Yeah, And I think
Speaker 1: that there's a possibility if you really wanted to, if
Speaker 1: one of these guys slides that you're like, oh man,
Speaker 1: we gotta go get them, maybe you make another move
Speaker 1: if you have to when you're sacrificing picks for next year.
Speaker 1: But the hope is you can recoup some with the
Speaker 1: comp picks, right, Yeah, I think you're kind of factoring
Speaker 1: that in the Cowboys doing excellent job when it comes
Speaker 1: to the compensatory picks. There anybody that's gonna get a
Speaker 1: comp pick. Maybe Connor McGovern Maybe maybe McGovern. Yeah, McGovern
Speaker 1: should I think it would be hard. I think it
Speaker 1: would be hard to get back that. I think it
Speaker 1: would be hard to get back that four. I think
Speaker 1: we're looking at a five. I think we're looking at
Speaker 1: fives and sixes with our guys as well. Looking at
Speaker 1: right now now that four, that four that we're giving away,
Speaker 1: that might be like a fifth round pick when when
Speaker 1: you look over all those which struggling, because the mid
Speaker 1: rounds in this draft, you got some death, it stretches.
Speaker 1: It feels like second third round is money. That's where
Speaker 1: people gonna make their money. There's so many players that
Speaker 1: are gonna fall into that place that you can probably
Speaker 1: get quality starters out of. I just I would really
Speaker 1: struggle to give up a third in this draft. So
Speaker 1: your thumbs down, Yeah, I'm down. Thumbs up, Sugg, I'm
Speaker 1: thumbs up for the right player, although thumbs up Brian Man,
Speaker 1: I'm for him. I don't know. I think, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I struggled with the scenario though, yeah, I struggled. I'm
Speaker 1: also I'm gonna I'm also looking to my board and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that if as my stack, I've got Bijean
Speaker 1: Robinson as my third best player on my board he's
Speaker 1: not available in this scenario. In this scenario, he's out,
Speaker 1: he's out. Would you move up for Beijean? The problem? Okay,
Speaker 1: now what I have, No, I don't think I would.
Speaker 1: I would. I'm just gonna sit it and let it go,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna try. I'm gonna. I know that, Oh
Speaker 1: so you wouldn't do that same move if Bijean was there,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm just gonna go with it
Speaker 1: because my my fallback on that would be probably Big
Speaker 1: Gibbs or somebody like that, or maybe maybe if I
Speaker 1: don't give up my third round pick. I'm saying, who
Speaker 1: the player is? The player with Robinson, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit it and I'm gonna and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try and see if he'll get there. To me, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna bet that the league might not value the
Speaker 1: running backs like they should. Now I'm gonna walk a
Speaker 1: minefield for sure, but I but I'm just I'm giving
Speaker 1: the players due. I'm putting him where he needs to be.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm trading up for the guy. I
Speaker 1: really really don't. We're running out of time, but I
Speaker 1: want to get to these other two scenarios real quickly.
Speaker 1: This one's very similar, but you're trading up to seventeen
Speaker 1: with the Pittsburgh Steelers going and getting this guy that
Speaker 1: Brian values so much, Colijah Cancy out of Pittsburgh, the
Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman, defensive tackle. You're going up to get Cancy.
Speaker 1: Steelers would get the first round pick, the third round pick,
Speaker 1: and this year's fifth. So not only are you not
Speaker 1: picking in the third, but you're picking. You're not thinking.
Speaker 1: I'm not no, I'm not going too much. I'm not
Speaker 1: doing that either. I think I wouldn't do anything. I
Speaker 1: think he's a second round player. Yeah, okay, there you go.
Speaker 1: So no, I would do it for Jackson Smith and
Speaker 1: jakebo especially if you only had to give up the
Speaker 1: one pick this year. I don't know about the two picks.
Speaker 1: And then his last scenario is actually trade down, so
Speaker 1: this one might value aisha trading down to thirty eight,
Speaker 1: so you're out of the first round. You do not
Speaker 1: get that fifth year option on these guys. But the
Speaker 1: Raiders is who you make the trade with. They give
Speaker 1: you an extra third round pick, and they give you,
Speaker 1: of course thirty eight to go down what is that
Speaker 1: twelve spots? You go down twelve spots, but they only
Speaker 1: give you a third round pick? Is that worth it?
Speaker 1: Would you do that? Okay, let's think about the players.
Speaker 1: So you got to assume that thirty eight of our guys,
Speaker 1: say thirty your top one hundred on my boarder. Gone,
Speaker 1: that's that's just how I'm going to look at it
Speaker 1: right there. Ye, So thirty ninth player is Mazzi Smith
Speaker 1: from from Mischisian State. For me, I think they would
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, so now I'm looking at Okay, now
Speaker 1: the potential of I'm looking at maybe so thirty nine,
Speaker 1: so I'm looking at forty right from there on back.
Speaker 1: See my my thirty ninth player is Andre Carter, the
Speaker 1: second from Army. So I mean outside of that, you
Speaker 1: still have quality players and you're gonna get too because
Speaker 1: you get to pick both at thirty eight and at
Speaker 1: fifty eight. Yeah. But see that's what I'm saying. Okay,
Speaker 1: Mazzi Smith Ringo would be Mike would be a guy
Speaker 1: that I would have there because he would be forty
Speaker 1: on my board. I'm looking for forty one. I have
Speaker 1: him stacked like I exactly need to have him stacked
Speaker 1: when they're saying in order, Emmanuel forms Downs is there
Speaker 1: at forty two, that's the kind of player I think
Speaker 1: you're looking at. I think you're looking at Mazzi Smith.
Speaker 1: I think you're looking at I think you're looking at Oh,
Speaker 1: I've got van Ness there at forty one? Is he
Speaker 1: gone by that point? He is at thirty four, so
Speaker 1: he would be gone, he would be in that range.
Speaker 1: Maybe I think so too. Yeah, we'll see. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, though, if you just assume that if you
Speaker 1: just take your numbers and you just say that they're gone,
Speaker 1: they're all gone. Say you're top thirty, because we're picking
Speaker 1: at what thirty seven? Did you say thirty eight? So
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that thirty seven of my top one
Speaker 1: hundred a gone. Just I'm saying that just to kind
Speaker 1: of so I'm right there with Washington Downs. I'm really
Speaker 1: really close on Flowers right there by the way, you know,
Speaker 1: for me. But I think that I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if the quality of the player would be
Speaker 1: for the extra third round pick is that we're talking about.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about picking it a couple of times there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thirty eight fifty eight, then you would get seventy, so
Speaker 1: it's early third round. Well, to Aisha's point, she's like,
Speaker 1: in the middle of this draft, you know, if you're
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you get like a full Ammanuel Forbes.
Speaker 1: Maybe if you moved back there, Camp Smith from South
Speaker 1: Carolina could be in play. You'd snag a corner, maybe
Speaker 1: one of the wide receivers. Maybe a Hyatt falls out
Speaker 1: of the first round and you want to take a
Speaker 1: giant Jalen Hyatt there wide receiver at a Tennessee you'd
Speaker 1: have some good options. Always, I like the trade bag.
Speaker 1: I always worry about who you're trading away from. That's
Speaker 1: what bothers me a little bit. Who am I trading
Speaker 1: away from? At twenty six, we see if there's any
Speaker 1: scenario here, hold up, let's see who who was gone.
Speaker 1: He doesn't really say it, okay, but you're I mean.
Speaker 1: I think the reason that he put that scenario out
Speaker 1: there is because it's not great compensation. It's not a
Speaker 1: huge haul to move up twelve spots. Sure, the Raiders
Speaker 1: just basically knew you wanted to get out, and they
Speaker 1: threw you a third round pick, and he said, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll take it that that's not a crazy haul. But
Speaker 1: for the Raiders where they're picking, the third round pick
Speaker 1: is an early third round pick, so it's a solid
Speaker 1: So that sound like you're getting late four on this.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I might consider that, but I'm i gotta
Speaker 1: know who I'm trading away from. But if I assume
Speaker 1: all my thirty you know, thirty seven guys are gone,
Speaker 1: that's I'm kind of left with the guys I talked about,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, maybe Campbell, guys like that, brew Sanders McDonald.
Speaker 1: I have a thirty eight, you know. So if we're
Speaker 1: looking at our handy dandy trade charts, your pick at
Speaker 1: twenty six is worth seven hundred points. Yeah, the two
Speaker 1: picks with thirty and seventy equal out to seven hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty points, so you're actually plus sixty. You're getting
Speaker 1: overpay their value from the Raiders. So not not terrible,
Speaker 1: but something to consider. Would you do it? Thumbs up?
Speaker 1: I do. I think. I do think that the way
Speaker 1: the guard is set up is that if there was
Speaker 1: one of the top guards that was there that maybe
Speaker 1: they might do it, then maybe they might maybe they
Speaker 1: might do the trade situation. I'm saying, like, because we
Speaker 1: were saying what type of player does it have to be?
Speaker 1: And for me, I couldn't see it happened unless it
Speaker 1: was like office of line, So get an offensive lineman. Okay,
Speaker 1: very nice. There's some trade scenarios because who knows. I mean,
Speaker 1: when Draft Day comes around, we might see a little
Speaker 1: bit of movement for the Cowboys sitting in the back
Speaker 1: of that second or the back of that first round
Speaker 1: at twenty six. Overall, we'll be back tomorrow, Bobby. We'll
Speaker 1: be back with us as gamble and them running backs.
Speaker 1: Man there, Yeah, it could be fun. Thanks for joining
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