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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and now your host, Kyle Yeomans. It's time

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, Missouri. Welcome into the SWBC studios at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. We've got Brian Broddis, Zack Walt, Chuck

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Speaker 1: Aysha Morrison. I'm Kyle Yeomans as we take you through

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Speaker 1: the next hour, breaking down, investigating, and educating from draft

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Speaker 1: prospects as we are closing in on the two week

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Speaker 1: mark out, how's everybody doing the anxiety? It's kicking in

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Speaker 1: then taking a deep breath. Yeah, it's like I was

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Speaker 1: telling to Brian about this. You've watched how many corners,

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Speaker 1: how many defensive ends, and every day it's like here

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Speaker 1: you go, here's another guy to go watch, and I'm

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Speaker 1: just starting to get I don't think I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: enough players. Yeah, I'm almost a two hundred players. Wow, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's I think to me, that's that's the anxiety you

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Speaker 1: go to. And that's the anxiety that the teams go through.

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Speaker 1: You know, there gets there's certain point in time these

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Speaker 1: teams are building their boards and that the part of

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Speaker 1: it's fun. And then when it gets down to the

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Speaker 1: end where their board is complete, those last two three days,

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Speaker 1: the anxiety is now like getting ready to draft. Did

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Speaker 1: we do this right? I always said this. I'd go

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Speaker 1: in there and I'm like, please just let these tags

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Speaker 1: start blinking. Give me the good players if you just

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Speaker 1: you know, as I'm looking at them, if the tags

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Speaker 1: would just start glowing, you know, of like, hey, this

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Speaker 1: is gonna be the All Pro this year. This is

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Speaker 1: gonna be yeah the guy nobody's talking about fifth round.

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Speaker 1: You know that was always but the the the anxiety

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Speaker 1: is real because you you know, there's we I talked

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Speaker 1: about it last week. We were so locked in and

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Speaker 1: doing this job and doing it well. And you want

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Speaker 1: to be right. You want to be able to inform

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Speaker 1: people what you see and people trust you about doing this,

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Speaker 1: and you're right, Zach. I'm you know, I'm I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at a I'm looking at a corner from Southern Miss

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Speaker 1: last night that I'd already looked at twenty three other

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Speaker 1: you know. I see the traits and stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: and this is where the guy is going to be.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's your biggest fear, that you don't get

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Speaker 1: to all the guys. And you know, if we did

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Speaker 1: all the guys, right, we'd have all the time to

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Speaker 1: go in there. But we have other jobs we have

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Speaker 1: to talk about and other things we have to do.

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Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about that Southern Miss corner.

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Speaker 1: Eric Scott. He was the last guy you watched coming

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Speaker 1: you know with Eric Scott, and he's a again, this

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Speaker 1: one ninety seven. He lines up as the field corner.

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Speaker 1: And when I say field, there's what we known as

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Speaker 1: the guy that plays to the bigger side of the field.

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Speaker 1: And look at Beam. He's got some highlights of him.

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Speaker 1: here's Eric Scott and he's got the size and he's

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Speaker 1: got the ability right there, you'll see the tackle and

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Speaker 1: the wrap up and stuff like that. He plays a

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Speaker 1: and then he kind of trail. He'll trail. Yeah, he'll

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Speaker 1: then when he has to turn, he'll turn and he'll go.

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Speaker 1: The movement is really really good with this guy. He's

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Speaker 1: We've seen that on the little video clips that Beam

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Speaker 1: I think that he's a guy that day three sixth

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Speaker 1: later on in his career. Like Ray Jean, I'd rather

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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask Brian, who do you think is

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Speaker 1: better between the kid you watched last night from Southern

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Speaker 1: Miss and your LSU Tiger McKay garner. I would take

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Speaker 1: the Southern Miss kill. Okay, That's what I would do,

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Speaker 1: because I was very unimpressed watching McKay garner. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: a good player, and you guys know, I like boy

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Speaker 1: bit more attention. But McKay gar it's just his feet

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Speaker 1: becoming the new norm. I'm asking that because I feel

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Speaker 1: like so many of the top dns in this draft. Sure,

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Speaker 1: when I look at like a Nick well, he's not

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Speaker 1: I don't know where you guys have Nick campedon. But

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Speaker 1: just looking at the fact that I feel like we

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Speaker 1: I keep thinking, oh, the people consider these gentlemen under sized.

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Speaker 1: outside linebacker position, When are we gonna start or is

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Speaker 1: there maybe a transition and transition happening with that position.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit different, right because you're not looking

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Speaker 1: because I feel like so many knocks on so many

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Speaker 1: and it's taken some time for him to develop, you know,

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Speaker 1: asking is is, like I wonder if guys dns now

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Speaker 1: because they it just feels like I'm tired personally. I'm

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Speaker 1: tired of saying that a players undersized at the d

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Speaker 1: he's a little undersized, but he's a playmakers he's crazy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So which one like? Which one is it? This is?

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Speaker 1: And so you know, I kind of feel like that

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Speaker 1: Nick Hampton at six two two thirty six might be

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Speaker 1: he never stops the redirection field, the redirection, he sees

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Speaker 1: double teams, he gets through that. He you know, he's

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Speaker 1: these short wide receivers. A guy, I can't I don't

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Speaker 1: have figured out. I figured out I'm getting ready to

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Speaker 1: draft here in a couple of weeks, you know, and

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Speaker 1: you're and you're just like, but you're trying. That's the

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Speaker 1: beauty of the draft. You got to find these when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about these edges that might be lightweight wise,

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Speaker 1: but what else do they do? Can you can their

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Speaker 1: I've never seen. I've never seen in all these years

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Speaker 1: a draft where I've had to deal with more questions

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Speaker 1: And so you know there's that you got that jockey club.

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Speaker 1: At wide receiver, you got the I mean, one of

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Speaker 1: He plays that finesse game. But I like the hands too.

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Speaker 1: There's some power, there's some strength in there too that's

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Speaker 1: able to kind of combine it. I like him as

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Speaker 1: a I had a third round grade on the guy,

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Speaker 1: or fourth round grade, early fourth round grade. How y'all

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Speaker 1: feel about him as a run defender? You know, That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think to me, there was a

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Speaker 1: little bit I used the word decent and I hate

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Speaker 1: when I use words like that, but idiot want to

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Speaker 1: cop out word. I don't know what I was doing.

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Speaker 1: It might have been one oh five in the morning

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Speaker 1: when I'm type sitting. Good for you, the decent RUNDI

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Speaker 1: what's decent Brian really to be honest? Average relative? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but no, I think when you know, it's not one

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Speaker 1: of those things where you say, man, this is a

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Speaker 1: this is a a trait flaw. I don't see that

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Speaker 1: as being a trait flaw with this guy's no liability

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Speaker 1: that he's really better when the ball is going away

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Speaker 1: and he could just run his you know, pursue the chase. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: no question. All right, I like it. Good conversation, guys.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's answer some Twitter questions, including maybe Kicker late

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Speaker 1: back room. Let's feeling the Oregon there. We had multiple

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Speaker 1: and I at least five, six, seven, I haven't counted

504
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Speaker 1: all of them, but multiple questions about kicker. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna say everybody's name. Jake Moody. There we go.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the kicking situation with the Cowboys?

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Speaker 1: Is it okay? Brett Mohurt doesn't seemed like he's an option,

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Speaker 1: at least from what we've heard from the breadcrumbs of

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Speaker 1: the Jones family in front office. But is it gonna

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Speaker 1: be a rookie kicker or are you gonna go out

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Speaker 1: and get a veteran kicker? What's your option on the

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Speaker 1: table if you're looking at specially you just kind of

513
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Speaker 1: talked about this in the previous show on the break

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Speaker 1: was I was hearing whispers that Bones has got some

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Speaker 1: guys in mind. I meant, I just did the name

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Speaker 1: out Jake Moody because of Michigan. He's the best kicker

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Speaker 1: in the in the draft, him and Chad Ryland from

518
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Speaker 1: Maryland or the two kickers everybody's talking about. Jake Moody

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Speaker 1: might be a fourth fifth round guy. He would probably

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Speaker 1: be the first kicker off the board for sure. Listen

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Speaker 1: to people talk about or with Bones situation that he

522
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Speaker 1: had two or three guys in mind. And when we

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Speaker 1: get to post draft, that's when we're gonna probably hear

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Speaker 1: about a veteran kicker that's gonna be okay. So I

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Speaker 1: couldn't get any nat I couldn't get any names. But

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Speaker 1: like I say, the two kickers, like Jake Moody from

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Speaker 1: Michigan is a fourth fifth round guy that's off. Dane

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Speaker 1: Bruegler's the Beast, which everybody should get. Yes, came out

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Speaker 1: this week. It's fantastic, it's always and then Chad Ryland

530
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Speaker 1: from Maryland is a six or seventh round guy. So

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Speaker 1: those are the two guys that Dane has possibly, but

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Speaker 1: there's probably he's glisted twenty possible kickers that could be

533
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Speaker 1: undrafted free agents. So maybe somebody out of that group

534
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Speaker 1: will show up as well, any any priority free agent

535
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Speaker 1: sort of talk, because yeah, you could go out and

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Speaker 1: get a veteran, but maybe one of these guys is

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Speaker 1: on the board, on the radar of bones fossil and

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Speaker 1: he's able to That's that's his job though. He's going

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Speaker 1: to evaluate all these kickers. I mean, he's going to

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Speaker 1: talk to the coaches, he's you know, it's his responsibility.

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Speaker 1: Like when Will McClay is going to ask him, is

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Speaker 1: there any kicker that we need to go throw cash at?

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Speaker 1: They did it with what Garabay, right, Yeah, they went

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Speaker 1: out and got Garabay from Texas Tech last year. They

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Speaker 1: determined that you know he was you know when it

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Speaker 1: was Dicker, the kicker from Texas. All these names of guys,

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00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: it's like, no on all this Garabay, he's one of

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Speaker 1: the best in the country. And then we all got

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Speaker 1: to Oxnard and he was, you know, he was he

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Speaker 1: wouldn't quite getting it down and that one didn't go

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Speaker 1: very well. No, so that's what I'm saying you you've

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Speaker 1: got it. But but let's be honest here, and I

553
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Speaker 1: said this on the break. If you're going to play

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Speaker 1: defense and you're going to run the ball, you better

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Speaker 1: damn will have a kicker. No, better have a kicker,

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Speaker 1: because you're going to be in games where if it's close,

557
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Speaker 1: it's tight, you do not want to be missing field

558
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Speaker 1: goals and you can't just kind of say, okay, well

559
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Speaker 1: we're gonna run the ball and because that just that

560
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: takes time, sure, does you know? And if you're not

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Speaker 1: going to score a whole hell of a lot of

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Speaker 1: points and you're gonna play defense, you better be able

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Speaker 1: to knock those down with a minute seven left in

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Speaker 1: the game. Happens to be a kicker out there who

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Speaker 1: is a free agent that you might have seen in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs that has never missed a postseason field goal. Yeah,

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00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: cost a little penny, but he's he's good. He's absolutely

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Speaker 1: very good down with it? Yeah, uh sorry, I have

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Speaker 1: a question though, Yes, what place do you have to

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Speaker 1: be in to draft a kicker? And I'm and I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying in an at insulting way, I'm really asking,

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Speaker 1: like what because it seems if you're the Raiders from

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Speaker 1: way back in the day the first round they drafted

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Speaker 1: Jenikowski Sebastian Jenikowski with the eighteenth overall pick, I was with.

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Speaker 1: I talked to John Gruden after that one. John and

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Speaker 1: I were friends. I go, you just drafted a kiarric

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Speaker 1: He guys, yeah, we just got the best kicker ever.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, and the guy played for a thousand years.

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Speaker 1: He did, he played for a long time. It signed

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Speaker 1: multiple contract. That's some teams. Some teams the Raiders have

581
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Speaker 1: a history of that they drafted. They've drafted punter from

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Speaker 1: the first round too. Are there some guys that you

583
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Speaker 1: look at them maybe are you're like, do you have

584
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Speaker 1: that mindset like if this guy hits just similarly of like, okay,

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Speaker 1: if this guy hits, he could be a great kicker

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Speaker 1: for a long time. And it's something we're not gonna

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Speaker 1: have to deal with for a while. Is that why

588
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: people would go kicker, because that's why you would draft

589
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Speaker 1: the guys if you think you you can have him

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Speaker 1: long term and you can rely on him. Yeah for years, yeah,

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Speaker 1: last year. Yeah. Kate Org is a great ending. So

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Speaker 1: it's not a desperation thing to need a kicker, because

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Speaker 1: it just seems so. I don't see it happened at all.

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Speaker 1: But you got to think about think about some of

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Speaker 1: the fourth and fifth round picks you've missed on that

596
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: if you would have just drafted that kicker, you wouldn't

597
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Speaker 1: have to you know, what's my guy at the Ravens

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Speaker 1: That Justin Tucker? Justin Tucker. He's the best kicker probably

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Speaker 1: ever outside of vintage. Okay, like maybe he's posing in

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Speaker 1: on that maybe three or four years ago. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he still make feel he's still one of the best

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Speaker 1: there is. If you told me I could give the

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Speaker 1: twenty sixth pick of the draft for Tucker for Tucker,

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Speaker 1: I would think about doing it, knowing knowing that I

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Speaker 1: have my kicker. He's as valuable as any He's as

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Speaker 1: valuable as any player you might drafted twenty six Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you were bringing up the point. I think it was

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Speaker 1: after training camp, Like would you have gone out and

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Speaker 1: swapped taking York, who was from Prosper ended up going

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Speaker 1: in the fourth round of the Browns for your fourth

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Speaker 1: round pick, Jake Ferguson. Yeah, now, I think we're all

612
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: super pumped about Fergie, especially if they don't go tight end.

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Speaker 1: He's your tight end one. But some of the kicking

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Speaker 1: woes they had, and Kaid York was good last year

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Speaker 1: for the rounds, I mean, yeah, I don't if you

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Speaker 1: take a kicker in the fourth round that you like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever. There's Tea. Tampa took Aguayo Aguayo,

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Speaker 1: Roberto Aguayo Florida Stay second round, second round, and he

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Speaker 1: was out of the league by the end of his

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Speaker 1: rookie contract. He was buzzed Justin Tucker for instance, I

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Speaker 1: mean undrafted free agent from twenty twelve. I mean, it happens.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's luck of the draw. Sometimes it's like

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Speaker 1: that with the draft anyways. So you got to find

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Speaker 1: a way to kind of balance that out. You might

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Speaker 1: look at it like if you have a compensatory pick,

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Speaker 1: you know that fifth round, compensatory three, and you're like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna go ahead and draft

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Speaker 1: a kicker here and let's you know, everyone'll say, oh,

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Speaker 1: look at them being smart. No, it's look at them

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Speaker 1: being like we don't have a kicker. Yeah, we need

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Speaker 1: to fill the spot. Yeah. There's a lot of things

632
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Speaker 1: that Brian says on this show that I want to

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Speaker 1: start making a T shirt Lyne out of last year,

634
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Speaker 1: it was the I'm car Loft. That was my favorite

635
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: part of the whole. This one was you damned well

636
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: better have a kicker like that, Like, damn well, have

637
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: a kicker. Just have that on a shirt, and I

638
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: think it would sell all right. Rose As, how many

639
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: actual first round grades do you guys have on your board?

640
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: I feel like this year the second round grade start

641
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: after about nine or ten guys. Is that a fair assessment?

642
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: So he's he's a little bit lower on this draft

643
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: normally eighteen to twenty maybe even up to twenty two,

644
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: twenty four. How many of you have? Brian Johnston's wide

645
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: receiver from TCU is my twentieth player and the last

646
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: one in the first Wow. Okay, so you have twenty

647
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: full first round grade? I do, Zach, do you what

648
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: do you got? Yeah? I'm in that like twenty to

649
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: twenty five range. Probably the same the same there. I'm

650
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: a little bit more optimistic about the receivers than I

651
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: think some others are. And I've got like four receivers

652
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: that i would take in the high in the first year.

653
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 1: I think high. It's very fringe, you know, first second

654
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: kind of range. I agree with you. I actually, Brian,

655
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: when we first started, when we first started the draft show,

656
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: remember we like one of our first shows, I was like, dang,

657
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good corners, and it was like,

658
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: it's not that many good receivers. But when we start

659
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: looking into these receivers, I think it depends on what

660
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: you consider good and what you're looking for schematically, what

661
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: you want this guy to what does guy to do?

662
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: So I agree with you. I think I do have

663
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: a few more guys I would be okay to comfortable. No, yeah,

664
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: absolutely so, I would say I think I have about

665
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: twenty two twenty in that same kind of the same

666
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: range as you. That's usually what you're gonna get every

667
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: year when you do this, I always find there's between

668
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty two. Yeah, that's that's the number that

669
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: you're trying. You generally live with. Last guy I have

670
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: is I'm trying to find the last guy because they're

671
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: all by position. I think it's Jamir Gibbs and he's

672
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: at nineteen for me. So I've got nineteen first round

673
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: grades that I can see my twenty first player. Just

674
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: the first guy at the top of the second is

675
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: Nolan Smith, and Nolan Smith might very well be a

676
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: first round Yeah, the first round grade on Nold. Okay,

677
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: you guys are probably gonna be right. We'll see, probably

678
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: gonna be right. You think he's too small, No, I'm

679
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: just okay, we gotta stop. Damn it, you guys. Nolan.

680
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: Nolan is like the perfect definition of that because he's

681
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: got that very kind of slender frame. He he doesn't act,

682
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: doesn't Yeah, he is more of a Micah Parsons type

683
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: comp for me, when you look at deal the edge, Yeah,

684
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: let me let me add it all right, flu asks

685
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: which draft prospects do you not want the division rivals

686
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: to draft in the first round? Which ones do you

687
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: think that are possible? I mean the first one's got

688
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: to be Love of the Star podcasts. The other day

689
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: we were on Love of the Star podcast. We were

690
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: on the other day and Brian Baldinger was on and

691
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: he lives in Philadelphia, and we just were talking about

692
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: Bijean Robinson and and I've never seen a fan base

693
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: more lined up for a guy than they are for

694
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: Bijan Robinson at ten. And our fan base is like,

695
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: please don't do it, Please don't do it, in a

696
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: way of like we don't want too though, because obviously,

697
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: like a month ago, and there's been a lot of

698
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: Bijan boz for the Cowboys that Philly is patty. They

699
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: know what they're doing. They're doing it on purpose. Probably

700
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: they not even let's move on running back team Dallas

701
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: Goddard right in front of the Cowboys. But you're you also,

702
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: you brought it up about they're lining up in the

703
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: in city. I mean, they're doing radio programs about that.

704
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: You brought it up at kicker you said, you said,

705
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: what type of position do you need to be in

706
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: to be to draft a kicker? It's the same thing

707
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: with Bijean. What type of position do you have to

708
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: be in as a team to draft just the best

709
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: player on the board. Yeah, I can see the ELI

710
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: is ready to do that. Their minds that they got

711
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: two ones they got there. They're coming off a Super

712
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: Bowl appearance, they've got what was the best offensive line

713
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: in the league. It's a luxury kick. They can afford

714
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: to make that pick. Not But look, people, just at

715
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: twenty six. It's not like you took Zeke in the

716
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: top five of the draft. You're picking at twenty six.

717
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't think Bijean Robinson's there. He's too darned good.

718
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: But I don't understand the hate of oh, my gosh,

719
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: the positional value. I got annoyed yesterday on on the

720
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: g bag Nation. I've heard complaints about tight end. Oh

721
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: the positional value. Who are the good first round tight ends?

722
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: You can't take them? Oh the positional value at running back, linebacker,

723
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: you can't. You know what, screw it, Let's pass on

724
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: the pick. Let's not take a player there at twenty six,

725
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: because we're gonna nitpick every single position that's now worth

726
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: the first round pick. It gets a little bit annoying.

727
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 1: Just let me take the best player, and that would

728
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: be be j On one hundred percent, ten days out

729
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: of Sunday. And I made that up. I don't even

730
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: think that's the same. But that's how irritated feel. I

731
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: can feel your rage, my friend. It's frustrating. It's like, well,

732
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: we'll make we'll make excuses, and here you can't do that.

733
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: You can't do that. Look, tell you what the player

734
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: turns out to be good for years from now, you're

735
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: not going to be complaining that you took them. I

736
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: don't know, if you're real quick. I don't know if

737
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: i'd want the Commanders to get a Will Levis, would

738
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: you rather than get a Will Levis or like an

739
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson or just not a quarterback? I just go

740
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: I think with Will Levis, I have him ahead of

741
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: Richardson as what I do. What about Hindon Hooker, Hindon

742
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: Hooker I have behind those guys. But yeah, I mean

743
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: I would give you know, if you just off my

744
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: top one hundred, don't give a number one? Yeah, don't

745
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: give them. Please? Do you have Hindon Hooker number one? Please? No?

746
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: What did not say all of that? Okay? You I

747
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: could see it in your eyes. You're like, I will

748
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: say this. I wouldn't. I don't particularly want the Giants

749
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: to get Addison the wide receiver, Okay. I don't want

750
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: the Giants to take John Michael Schmidtz. And I'm really

751
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: nervous that's going to happen the center around in Minnesota

752
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: at twenty five. Who I'm in love with. Yeah, I've

753
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: heard a lot of buzz out of New York. I mean,

754
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: think about it if they make that pick. I was

755
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: just on their podcast so that they were talking wide

756
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: receivers in the corners. You've got two book end tackles

757
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: you've taken. Now in the first couple of rounds. You

758
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: add him the best interior linement in the draft and

759
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: John Michael Schmidts. All of a sudden you figured out

760
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: your offense. Trying to kiss up a little bit to say,

761
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: kuon Barkley, who did not sign his franchise. Uh, is

762
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: it Andrew Thomas Thomas? Yeah, okay, first rounder out of Georgia.

763
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: He's left. Yeah, he's there right up. Yeah, who I'm

764
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: not thinking about that was not they They took the

765
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: Bama kid and he had a little bit of an

766
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: up and down year. We had Flowers too, was another

767
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: Flowers was not long time ago. He was not good.

768
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: They moved him to guard and he was much better.

769
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. They signed the Patriots tackle

770
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: a few years solder he was he was a miss

771
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, they draft a lot of injury. Hernandez,

772
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: the guard at a Utah was the guy and that

773
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: one didn't work out. But Schmitz would be a hell

774
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: of a pit surprised me, Brian talking about the commanders,

775
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: because if I'm not mistaken, you were pretty high on

776
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: Sam how No. No, that's what I'm saying. No, no, no,

777
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: I I am, and I think they should have played

778
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: Sam how earlier last year to kind of figure out

779
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: what Sam Howe was all about. You know, I do like,

780
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: but I worry about them. Trust me. Will Levis is

781
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: a better player than Sam how You know that. That's

782
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: I feared the Commander's actually getting a quarterback because with

783
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: the skill that they had, they're building their offensive line.

784
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: I that defense is pretty good. I don't need them

785
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: to get better at quarter with you. If I'm a

786
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan, dang if I'm If I'm Philly though, and

787
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: I need safety. This is this is not the draft

788
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: to be like I need a safety. They need safeties.

789
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe maybe some will fall to them

790
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: well or just be there, because Lord knows, there's not

791
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: a whole bunch that aren't gonna be in the box.

792
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: What is happening. It's a free safety, y'all, what is happening? Yeah,

793
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: there's a lot of strong it's a drought of it.

794
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: It's free. Like what is the free safety position becoming

795
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: or is it? Is? It just not that many of them.

796
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's the way the college game

797
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: is being played that you see a lot of true

798
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: free safeties. Okay, yeah, I just you know the way

799
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: that your people are spreading me out and stuff like that,

800
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: so you're having a kind of you know, you're having

801
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: to trying to keep safeties in the box in order

802
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: to handle the run because you're so spread out. So

803
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: I will say this, my guy Johnson at Texas A

804
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: and m Antonio Johnson, that's he's a heck of a player.

805
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: If you if you ask me if I can have

806
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: a free safety, I can. I'll take your guys. Skinner

807
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: skinner from a boy Boise, I'll take that cat too.

808
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I love that. I think it's

809
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: more of a third round kind of a group, depending

810
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: on what you think about Branch from Alabama. You know,

811
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: people got him at corner safety. I mean, I've talked

812
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: to everybody. I'm just going to see him getting drafted.

813
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: That's I think he's the first safety that's going to

814
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: be off the floor. Agreed. And Gentavious Martin from Illinois, Illinois. Yeah,

815
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: and geez that Illinois secondary. He was a late watch

816
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna come out on

817
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: the record here and he was a late watch. I

818
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: got him at ninety on my board. Did not put

819
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: him in the draft magazine as a bio. He was

820
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: not in my top ten safeties. He's number seven on

821
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: my late fan. I used to do that magazine myself.

822
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: It's part of it whenever you have to turn it

823
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: in a month ahead of time. Yeah, but I went

824
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: back and watched him, and then of course the Beast

825
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: came out a couple days after. I was like, man,

826
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: I think I missed this guy. And then Dane's got

827
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: him like what three or four in his list, and

828
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, man, like I missed him. But that's okay,

829
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: all right. Another question, Casey says, if Ferguson or Peyton

830
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: hinder Shot were in this year's draft, where would you

831
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: rank them among the other tight ends that are in

832
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: the group Pitt Shot or Jake Ferguson If you were

833
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: to rerack them and put them in this draft instead

834
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty two draft works I have them.

835
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: I would take I would take Mayor, Kincaid, Musgrave, Washington

836
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: Craft over all of them, and even Laporta. I think

837
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: it's what I would do. They would be behind all

838
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: those guys am on my on my book. Yep. I

839
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: don't know that they would be in the top eight.

840
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: I mean I think that you could make a case

841
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: for a guy like Josh Wiley, not a Cincinnati uh

842
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: even you know a Brenton Schoonmaker from Schoomaker. I like

843
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: Schoomaker from Michigan. I like Strange from Penn State. Did

844
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: you mention him? Ago? Just mentioned him? See that That's

845
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I like Ferguson would kind of be

846
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: be right there with a painter or I had Ferguson

847
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: a fifth round last year on my board, so I

848
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: you know, I to me, I you know, do you

849
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: miss him? Yeah? Maybe so. But I think that I

850
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: think this is I think this class at tight ends

851
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: we have is is very I'm not gonna say rare,

852
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: because the positions starting to become more important. You're getting

853
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: these big wide receivers that convert to tight ends. You know,

854
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: that they use in the slots and stuff. So yeah,

855
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: they would be to me, those are fourth fifth round

856
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: guys in this current Yeah, right around ten maybe for

857
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: Fergie tenth best tight end in the class, I would Yeah,

858
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 1: I think i'd have them. Well, you're talking about drafting

859
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: one at twenty six because these guys, I mean the

860
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: Kincaid's and the Mayors and the and the you know

861
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: the others are or Musgraves and upgrade the position. It's

862
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: an upgrade and it's not a shot at your own guys. No,

863
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: Is that why they're going? Is that why they're higher?

864
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: You know, just because we're talking about every position and

865
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: how everyone each draft is different, with this draft in particular.

866
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it just because this is just so

867
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: happens to be a special bunch or just a more

868
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: skilled bunch. Is that what? That's what y'all say? I think? So,

869
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: I think this is a really good draft for tight ends.

870
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: I just think there's a good amount of them. I

871
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: think college football in general is starting to catch up

872
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: to the NFL and how to utilize tight ends too.

873
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: So these guys are more pro ready than ever, and

874
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing kind of the the byproduct of that.

875
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: It's hand in hand to what you were just talking about.

876
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: You have a tight end that could play in the

877
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: slot or flex that gets up the field. You don't

878
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: have a safety that can cover it's a match. You

879
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: don't have a linebacker that can cover him. Yeah, you

880
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: know that's what these colleges are figuring out. Yeah, you know,

881
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: even even though you know, uh, you just go through

882
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: the list. You mentioned Wiley from Cincinnati. I mean, these guys,

883
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: they they play him flex, they play them outside, they're

884
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: up the field, Washington you I mean, I was watching

885
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: Stetson bend it the other day from Georgia and next

886
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: thing you know, they're throwing the ball in the red

887
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: zone and who's he's throwing it to? Washington? You know why?

888
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: Because nobody can cover Washington absolutely seven seven luck Nobody

889
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: can cover that big guy running down the middle of

890
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: the field like that. Yeah. It's one of the best

891
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: mismatches you can have on the field, period. And and

892
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: you look at these tight ends, it seems like the

893
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: best athletes are playing tight end. I mean you're getting

894
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: defensive ends that are converting. I mean sometimes you get

895
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: the opposite, like Dawn White, Ken White at a Georgia Tech,

896
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: who wasn't tight end. Now he's playing defensive end. But

897
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: the athlete that is now playing the position, it's no

898
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: longer just hey, let me run a curl for five yards,

899
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: catch it, fall down. These guys are stretching the field

900
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: and making plays down the field. I had a conversation

901
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: with Mike McCarthy last year and he said his favorite

902
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: type of football player period, not just position position less

903
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: six foot five, two hundred and forty five pounds. You

904
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 1: can't have enough of those guys, the long, lanky athletic players,

905
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: and the most of the time that's gonna be edge rusher,

906
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: that's gonna be tight end, and there's gonna be where

907
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: those two guys fit in the best. So the more

908
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: you can have on your team not only for their

909
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: position will fit with tight end and edge rusher, but

910
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: with special teams and having a lot of those guys

911
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: to rotate through. That's why they do utilize those positions

912
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: so well. Last question, so we can get to five,

913
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: Connery says, I have a feeling that one of the

914
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: top corners may fall to the Cowboys at twenty six.

915
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: Would that be an easy choice if one of them

916
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: is to make that make it and are you in

917
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: a position to make that pack? All right? At the

918
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: top corners? Are we talking about Porter Gonzalez Witherspoon. I

919
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: don't think any of those guys he's saying hypothetically, yes,

920
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: I take any one of those guys absolutely. I would

921
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: absolutely take because that's players nine, eleven, and thirteen on

922
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: my top one hundred. Is that a CD lamp situation

923
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: where you feel like you're good at the position but

924
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: you just can't pass. You can't go wrong with anyone

925
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: of those corners, Porter Witherspoons, You can't go wrong with

926
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: any right, And that's another thing. It's like, oh, you've

927
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: got corners, so why are you gonna take you corner? No?

928
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: All right, look at look at your roster, and guys

929
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: didn't you didn't at the end of the season, Right,

930
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: you have how many off the street and how many

931
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: of you have that are beyond this year? You're not

932
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: just picking for this year. You're not just picking to

933
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: line up here in twenty twenty three. This is a

934
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: pick for multiple seasons. Is he Mquamo one year deal?

935
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: Gilmore one year deal? Right? Jordan Lewis is a guy

936
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 1: that's going to be up after this year, you're gonna

937
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: have a need at the position, so that that player

938
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: might not get on the field a ton rookie season

939
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: maybe due to injuries. You need like four good corners

940
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: now in the NFL. But that's a that's an insurance

941
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: play for the future. And then you also have the

942
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: contract situation with Diggs coming up, Well, you need that

943
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: player probably play special teams because you lost a couple

944
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: of guys on that side. Speaking of special teams, that's

945
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: why I have a question for you guys. Looking at

946
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: this class, I feel like I keep seeing dbs that

947
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: have returned ability. Yeah, I keep seeing wide receivers that

948
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: have return ability. I was looking at Trey Palmer last

949
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: night from the Braska right did the cup. I love

950
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: me some Cavant Turpin. But when you look at this

951
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: draft class and how many guys have returnability that could

952
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: not only help you there, but be maybe players later

953
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: down on along the line, did they jumped a gun?

954
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: They did? They jumped a gun with paying him? Well,

955
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: do you guys think, do you guys think that maybe

956
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: there's someone in this draft that you could get better

957
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: in another position and they have returnability? Because I just

958
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: feel like I've run into. I think even Sydney Brown

959
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: has return ability. Therebs that have it. There's I mean,

960
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: there's running backs to have it. That's the one knockavent

961
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: against Kavante Turpin, right, is that he's so good at

962
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: being a return man, But what does he contribute outside

963
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: of that role? So I think that I'm just asking, like,

964
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: do you take a player that has return ability with

965
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: that in mind? Because I just feel like there's quite

966
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: a few in this draft. In this draft in particular,

967
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: can I throw a name at you? Then? On your question,

968
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: would you take Dell over Turpin, both of the same size. Absolutely? Yes,

969
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: is a better player, but a better receiver, right, He's

970
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: an incredible route right, Yeah, I don't know. I'm not

971
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: as high on as most people. I'm really not. I

972
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: don't think he was as good as a lot of

973
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: people are saying. I still think he's a decent player,

974
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, But I don't know if you

975
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: could utiz like, what does Tank Dell bring you that

976
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: Kavante Turpin doesn't actual routes? Yeah, I think he's a

977
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 1: much better route run said the same thing about Turpin

978
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: come out at TCU though, But the thing about the

979
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: thing about Dell is my number one hundred player, and

980
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: I think I got hi miss one hundred because I

981
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: think that you can actually run routes with him. There

982
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: they were there was something that they there was a

983
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: disconnect and maybe it was Kellen Moore and now he's gone,

984
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: but there was a disconnect. I was thinking after the

985
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: bye week that, Okay, get ready for the great for

986
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: the Turpin packages. Get ready for it. You know, never

987
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: saw it. Now he broke some big runs and some

988
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: big games, you know, and he should have had more touchdowns,

989
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: to be honest with if he's not running into kickers

990
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: or other things. I think if you said between those

991
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: guys that are slight built, if you said who could

992
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: play receiver better in a game, I think Dell could

993
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: play better than Turpin in a game. And I think

994
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: his return ability is just as good. Yeah. I think

995
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: the knock on Turp is all right, go fight for

996
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: the football. It's a contested football. Can he go up

997
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: and get it or is he going to get kind

998
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: of bullied? Tank Delle goes and gets the ball, man

999
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: like that ball's in the air. Tank deal despite the

1000
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: five eight frame, He's gonna go up and make a

1001
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: play on the football. Yeah, I would definitely. I think

1002
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: I would definitely take did switch him out? Oh, I

1003
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: would switch them out a heartbeat. But I just I

1004
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: just wondered what the Cavante Turpin thing unless they are

1005
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: planning on using him in the offense moving forward. I

1006
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: feel like depending on who they draft and if that

1007
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: person does have return ability, it'll kind of tell me

1008
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: personally what maybe they're looking maybe their vision is there.

1009
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: Because Malik Davis is like your number two back right well,

1010
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: number three back right right now? I mean Tony Pollard

1011
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: is your number one running back now? He was like,

1012
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: was he the backup return guy or he was one

1013
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: of the return guys that you can't have that. No,

1014
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: you're not letting those CD's not doing it either, absolutely,

1015
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: So there's no returner besides him if he gets injured,

1016
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: who's this guy who's stepping up there? I would like

1017
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: to personally maybe bring in a guy that can help

1018
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: you somewhere else maybe next year, but has returned to

1019
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: build true There you go, great questions all the way

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Speaker 1: around Twitter on the twenty. Appreciate you guys. We'll be

1021
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: back with it again tomorrow when we come back thumbs

1022
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Speaker 1: up at thumbs down? Are we trading up? Are we

1023
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: trading down in the first round? What's going to happen

1024
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Speaker 1: Back here on the Draft Show presented by Miller Lite,

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Speaker 1: Zach Wolchuck Gusha Morrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman's We've got Chris

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Speaker 1: Beam running everything in the back. All right. We have

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Speaker 1: some trade scenarios. There's been a little bit of buzz,

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00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of buzz that the Cowboys may not

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00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: be comfortable staying put at twenty six. So let's take

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Speaker 1: a look at some of their options. These are just

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00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: a couple of options, and these are courtesy of CBS Sports.

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Speaker 1: Garrett is it Podell? Is that how you say it? Jones? Right?

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00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: Garrett Podell called it thanks for your work. Arrett, appreciate you, Garrett.

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Speaker 1: So he put together three different trade scenarios. Two of

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Speaker 1: them are trading up to go get a certain prospect.

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Speaker 1: I'll outline a prospect in each of these scenarios just

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00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: to make it fun. And the other one is to

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00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: trade out, pull that parachute and go to the second round.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna start. I want to first off, I want

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00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: to give a thumbs up or thumbs down. Are you

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00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: gonna do this or are you gonna stay put? Depending

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00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: on the scenario. Trading up to nineteen, you go and

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00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: make a deal. You get on the phone with the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You give Tampa Bay your first round pick,

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Speaker 1: your third round pick at ninety and at twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four fourth round pick to go up from twenty six

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Speaker 1: to nineteen. The guy that you want to go up

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Speaker 1: and get is Jackson Smith and Jickba. He falls to nineteen,

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00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: so inagury concerns, teams aren't necessarily loving the medicals. He

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00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: falls to nineteen. Do you go up and you go

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00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 1: get your guy Jackson Smith and Jickba at nineteen, Zach

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Speaker 1: Will Chuck, I know you like Jackson, Are you in

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Speaker 1: on that giving up your first, your third, and a

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00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: fourth next year. It's a lot to give up. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's heading shoulders the best receiver

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Speaker 1: in the draft. So if you really want a wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: I'm i'd go up and make the move and go

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Speaker 1: get that guy like I think JSN is going to

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Speaker 1: be that dude. I'm a I'm a big, big fan

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Speaker 1: of his game. I'm not really in favor of trading

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Speaker 1: up in this draft class, but for Jackson Smith and

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Speaker 1: j you don't need to convince me. It's got to

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00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: be the right process. I'm all for it. That's a

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00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: guy like him, Joey Porter from Penn State the corner.

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Speaker 1: I would move up for either of those guys and say,

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Speaker 1: let's party, would you do it? Aisha? It's a lot

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Speaker 1: a third and you're going up seven spots, it's all

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00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: you're going. That's not very far up there, but you're

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Speaker 1: getting a guy that you see has fallen right, what

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00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: do you think we got to make a determination here? Okay, okay,

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00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: what's we gotta make a determination? Are we We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go get a wide receiver? Right on my board, that

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00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: would be the seventeenth best player so I'm I'm in.

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00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm in for going that direction, all right. We got

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Speaker 1: to determine, though, who are we going to give up?

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Speaker 1: Are we going to give up Zavala North North Carolina State,

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00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: it's a guard pick. Are we gonna give up Spears,

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Speaker 1: the running back from Tulane? Yeah? Are we going to

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Speaker 1: give up potentially? Uh? How about Hinsley the linebacker from

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Speaker 1: UH from Washington State? Yeah? Are we gonna give up

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Speaker 1: one of these corners? Phillips Rush, Cameron Smith or Cam Smith?

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00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: Are we gonna give up one of those guys? Are

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Speaker 1: we gonna give up maybe a tight end? Are we

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Speaker 1: gonna give up maybe Laporta here? Or you know, We've

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Speaker 1: got to determine this. There's a lot of good third

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00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: round grades. That's what I'm saying. If you look at

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Speaker 1: your board and you say we don't need we could

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Speaker 1: we could. We could sit here and pick at twenty

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Speaker 1: six and talk about maybe taking Bijean Robinson or taking

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Speaker 1: one of these guards, or taking one of these, uh,

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Speaker 1: these defensive ends. We could talk about that, but no,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna probably lose one of those guys. I was

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Speaker 1: talking about Laporta, Zavala, Spears, maybe even our Kansas State

1139
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: defensive end, you know Ozama. Yeah, and now I maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe have him high. Maybe there's somebody that falls out

1141
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: of the back end of the second round that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna lose. Yeah, you know, that's what we have to

1143
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Speaker 1: determine right now, if we're comfortable not having that third

1144
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Speaker 1: round guy of all those names that I kind of mentioned,

1145
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Speaker 1: and I just I just went off my board, right,

1146
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: I didn't you know, I didn't go off your boards.

1147
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 1: I went off my board. Yeah, that's that's the consideration.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know. I don't know if and even

1149
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Speaker 1: though that Smith and Jigbi is the seventeenth best player

1150
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Speaker 1: on my board, do I want to lose the possibility

1151
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Speaker 1: of grabbing a tight end or grabbing another guard, or

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Speaker 1: grabbing a running back. You know that I really really like.

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Speaker 1: Here's some of the third round options, at least on

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00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: my board at wide receiver. If you were to pass

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Speaker 1: on Jackson Smith and Jake Bill, you can maybe pick

1156
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Speaker 1: one up later. Cedric Tillman from Tennessee, Tank Dell from Houston,

1157
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: At Perry from Wake four is k Shawn Boutet from LSU.

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00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: So there's options there after the first round, But are

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Speaker 1: they all as in tossing as Jackson Smith and Jake

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Speaker 1: Will probably. Yeah. My options on the third round are

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Speaker 1: Tillman Mims read from Michigan State, Rice Smiths mu Perry

1162
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Speaker 1: from wake Force. Those are my options in the third round,

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Speaker 1: and Marvin Mims. I'm very open and out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'd be very interested. But to me, if you can

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Speaker 1: go up and get the best player at the position,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be upset about that. And my

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Speaker 1: number one guy, I would sacrifice the additional pick because

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Speaker 1: I think you're cool. You're cool with not picking in

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Speaker 1: the third then on that, right, Yeah, And I think

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Speaker 1: that there's a possibility if you really wanted to, if

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00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: one of these guys slides that you're like, oh man,

1172
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: we gotta go get them, maybe you make another move

1173
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: if you have to when you're sacrificing picks for next year.

1174
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Speaker 1: But the hope is you can recoup some with the

1175
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: comp picks, right, Yeah, I think you're kind of factoring

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Speaker 1: that in the Cowboys doing excellent job when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the compensatory picks. There anybody that's gonna get a

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Speaker 1: comp pick. Maybe Connor McGovern Maybe maybe McGovern. Yeah, McGovern

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Speaker 1: should I think it would be hard. I think it

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00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: would be hard to get back that. I think it

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00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: would be hard to get back that four. I think

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Speaker 1: we're looking at a five. I think we're looking at

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Speaker 1: fives and sixes with our guys as well. Looking at

1184
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: right now now that four, that four that we're giving away,

1185
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Speaker 1: that might be like a fifth round pick when when

1186
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: you look over all those which struggling, because the mid

1187
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: rounds in this draft, you got some death, it stretches.

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00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: It feels like second third round is money. That's where

1189
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: people gonna make their money. There's so many players that

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00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: are gonna fall into that place that you can probably

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00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: get quality starters out of. I just I would really

1192
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Speaker 1: struggle to give up a third in this draft. So

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Speaker 1: your thumbs down, Yeah, I'm down. Thumbs up, Sugg, I'm

1194
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: thumbs up for the right player, although thumbs up Brian Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm for him. I don't know. I think, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I struggled with the scenario though, yeah, I struggled. I'm

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Speaker 1: also I'm gonna I'm also looking to my board and

1198
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking that if as my stack, I've got Bijean

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Speaker 1: Robinson as my third best player on my board he's

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Speaker 1: not available in this scenario. In this scenario, he's out,

1201
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Speaker 1: he's out. Would you move up for Beijean? The problem? Okay,

1202
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Speaker 1: now what I have, No, I don't think I would.

1203
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: I would. I'm just gonna sit it and let it go,

1204
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna try. I'm gonna. I know that, Oh

1205
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Speaker 1: so you wouldn't do that same move if Bijean was there,

1206
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm just gonna go with it

1207
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Speaker 1: because my my fallback on that would be probably Big

1208
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Speaker 1: Gibbs or somebody like that, or maybe maybe if I

1209
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Speaker 1: don't give up my third round pick. I'm saying, who

1210
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Speaker 1: the player is? The player with Robinson, I'm just gonna

1211
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit it and I'm gonna and I'm gonna

1212
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Speaker 1: try and see if he'll get there. To me, I'm

1213
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: just gonna bet that the league might not value the

1214
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: running backs like they should. Now I'm gonna walk a

1215
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: minefield for sure, but I but I'm just I'm giving

1216
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Speaker 1: the players due. I'm putting him where he needs to be.

1217
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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm trading up for the guy. I

1218
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Speaker 1: really really don't. We're running out of time, but I

1219
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 1: want to get to these other two scenarios real quickly.

1220
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Speaker 1: This one's very similar, but you're trading up to seventeen

1221
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: with the Pittsburgh Steelers going and getting this guy that

1222
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: Brian values so much, Colijah Cancy out of Pittsburgh, the

1223
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Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman, defensive tackle. You're going up to get Cancy.

1224
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Speaker 1: Steelers would get the first round pick, the third round pick,

1225
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Speaker 1: and this year's fifth. So not only are you not

1226
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 1: picking in the third, but you're picking. You're not thinking.

1227
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Speaker 1: I'm not no, I'm not going too much. I'm not

1228
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Speaker 1: doing that either. I think I wouldn't do anything. I

1229
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Speaker 1: think he's a second round player. Yeah, okay, there you go.

1230
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Speaker 1: So no, I would do it for Jackson Smith and

1231
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: jakebo especially if you only had to give up the

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Speaker 1: one pick this year. I don't know about the two picks.

1233
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Speaker 1: And then his last scenario is actually trade down, so

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Speaker 1: this one might value aisha trading down to thirty eight,

1235
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Speaker 1: so you're out of the first round. You do not

1236
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Speaker 1: get that fifth year option on these guys. But the

1237
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Speaker 1: Raiders is who you make the trade with. They give

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Speaker 1: you an extra third round pick, and they give you,

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Speaker 1: of course thirty eight to go down what is that

1240
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Speaker 1: twelve spots? You go down twelve spots, but they only

1241
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: give you a third round pick? Is that worth it?

1242
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: Would you do that? Okay, let's think about the players.

1243
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: So you got to assume that thirty eight of our guys,

1244
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: say thirty your top one hundred on my boarder. Gone,

1245
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: that's that's just how I'm going to look at it

1246
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: right there. Ye, So thirty ninth player is Mazzi Smith

1247
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: from from Mischisian State. For me, I think they would

1248
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, so now I'm looking at Okay, now

1249
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: the potential of I'm looking at maybe so thirty nine,

1250
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: so I'm looking at forty right from there on back.

1251
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: See my my thirty ninth player is Andre Carter, the

1252
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: second from Army. So I mean outside of that, you

1253
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: still have quality players and you're gonna get too because

1254
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: you get to pick both at thirty eight and at

1255
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Speaker 1: fifty eight. Yeah. But see that's what I'm saying. Okay,

1256
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Speaker 1: Mazzi Smith Ringo would be Mike would be a guy

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Speaker 1: that I would have there because he would be forty

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Speaker 1: on my board. I'm looking for forty one. I have

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Speaker 1: him stacked like I exactly need to have him stacked

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Speaker 1: when they're saying in order, Emmanuel forms Downs is there

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Speaker 1: at forty two, that's the kind of player I think

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Speaker 1: you're looking at. I think you're looking at Mazzi Smith.

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Speaker 1: I think you're looking at I think you're looking at Oh,

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Speaker 1: I've got van Ness there at forty one? Is he

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Speaker 1: gone by that point? He is at thirty four, so

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Speaker 1: he would be gone, he would be in that range.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I think so too. Yeah, we'll see. That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, though, if you just assume that if you

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Speaker 1: just take your numbers and you just say that they're gone,

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Speaker 1: they're all gone. Say you're top thirty, because we're picking

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Speaker 1: at what thirty seven? Did you say thirty eight? So

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that thirty seven of my top one

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Speaker 1: hundred a gone. Just I'm saying that just to kind

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Speaker 1: of so I'm right there with Washington Downs. I'm really

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Speaker 1: really close on Flowers right there by the way, you know,

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Speaker 1: for me. But I think that I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if the quality of the player would be

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Speaker 1: for the extra third round pick is that we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about picking it a couple of times there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thirty eight fifty eight, then you would get seventy, so

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Speaker 1: it's early third round. Well, to Aisha's point, she's like,

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Speaker 1: in the middle of this draft, you know, if you're

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you get like a full Ammanuel Forbes.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if you moved back there, Camp Smith from South

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Speaker 1: Carolina could be in play. You'd snag a corner, maybe

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Speaker 1: one of the wide receivers. Maybe a Hyatt falls out

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Speaker 1: of the first round and you want to take a

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Speaker 1: giant Jalen Hyatt there wide receiver at a Tennessee you'd

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Speaker 1: have some good options. Always, I like the trade bag.

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Speaker 1: I always worry about who you're trading away from. That's

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Speaker 1: what bothers me a little bit. Who am I trading

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Speaker 1: away from? At twenty six, we see if there's any

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Speaker 1: scenario here, hold up, let's see who who was gone.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't really say it, okay, but you're I mean.

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Speaker 1: I think the reason that he put that scenario out

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Speaker 1: there is because it's not great compensation. It's not a

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Speaker 1: huge haul to move up twelve spots. Sure, the Raiders

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Speaker 1: just basically knew you wanted to get out, and they

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Speaker 1: threw you a third round pick, and he said, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll take it that that's not a crazy haul. But

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Speaker 1: for the Raiders where they're picking, the third round pick

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Speaker 1: is an early third round pick, so it's a solid

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Speaker 1: So that sound like you're getting late four on this.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I might consider that, but I'm i gotta

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Speaker 1: know who I'm trading away from. But if I assume

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Speaker 1: all my thirty you know, thirty seven guys are gone,

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Speaker 1: that's I'm kind of left with the guys I talked about,

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Speaker 1: you know, uh, maybe Campbell, guys like that, brew Sanders McDonald.

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Speaker 1: I have a thirty eight, you know. So if we're

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Speaker 1: looking at our handy dandy trade charts, your pick at

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Speaker 1: twenty six is worth seven hundred points. Yeah, the two

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Speaker 1: picks with thirty and seventy equal out to seven hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty points, so you're actually plus sixty. You're getting

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Speaker 1: overpay their value from the Raiders. So not not terrible,

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Speaker 1: but something to consider. Would you do it? Thumbs up?

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Speaker 1: I do. I think. I do think that the way

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Speaker 1: the guard is set up is that if there was

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Speaker 1: one of the top guards that was there that maybe

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Speaker 1: they might do it, then maybe they might maybe they

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Speaker 1: might do the trade situation. I'm saying, like, because we

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Speaker 1: were saying what type of player does it have to be?

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Speaker 1: And for me, I couldn't see it happened unless it

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01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: was like office of line, So get an offensive lineman. Okay,

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Speaker 1: very nice. There's some trade scenarios because who knows. I mean,

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Speaker 1: when Draft Day comes around, we might see a little

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Speaker 1: bit of movement for the Cowboys sitting in the back

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Speaker 1: of that second or the back of that first round

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Speaker 1: at twenty six. Overall, we'll be back tomorrow, Bobby. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back with us as gamble and them running backs.

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Speaker 1: Man there, Yeah, it could be fun. Thanks for joining

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Speaker 1: us here on the Draft show. For Chris being Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us, Zack Walchuck Ayesha Morrison, I'm Kyle Yeomans will

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Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. Presented by Miller Lite. This has been

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