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<v Speaker 1>Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>He got Jack. This is the Big Red Rain presented

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<v Speaker 1>by Santanford in Gilbert. Harry's Gonna score Touchdown. Slim to

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<v Speaker 1>Slash Podcasts, The Rods, Rising Guard, Temperatureizing Vision, Flurring, Rage

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<v Speaker 1>taking over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the popcorn ready, It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a show and Ron will flip. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get any better than that. RS Unleash. The far Many

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<v Speaker 1>camp is a rap. Next stop is next month training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>You think you know Ron Wolflee? No, I know you

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<v Speaker 1>think you know where? Let me finish the sentence. Rom

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<v Speaker 1>You think you know, Sure, you might know a thing

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<v Speaker 1>or two about training camp, but you think you might

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<v Speaker 1>know where the two twenty one airs on our Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>are headed. And I would say not so fast, as

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<v Speaker 1>we just witnessed three days of mini camp, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of seven on seven guys and shorts

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<v Speaker 1>and helmets and a lot of trash cans and blocking

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<v Speaker 1>bags out there. So there's only so much you can tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Ron Wolfley, dare I say, when this NBA season started,

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<v Speaker 1>your Phoenix Suns were seventy to one shots, so you

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<v Speaker 1>putting money down in your bally. You might think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But until this whole thing plays out, at least until

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<v Speaker 1>we get into some full contact football into August, then

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<v Speaker 1>guess what we might get a few answers around here

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<v Speaker 1>on the Big Red Rage, all presented by the santan

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<v Speaker 1>Four in Gilbert. We are santan Ford, the original Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>Night Football right here, Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley, and soon

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<v Speaker 1>to be joined wolf We're gonna have an addition to

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<v Speaker 1>the full back club here tonight, our special guests. Do

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<v Speaker 1>tell James Saxon, you better believe it, part of the

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<v Speaker 1>full back Club. Can't wait to talk to him about

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<v Speaker 1>how the Arizona Cardinals are going to incorporate a fullback

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<v Speaker 1>into their offense in twenty twenty one. Do yourself favor,

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<v Speaker 1>Do not ask that question. Some free advice right off

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<v Speaker 1>the top. You know, don't make yourself look bad. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>waste our precious time with a Cardinals running backs coach

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<v Speaker 1>by asking any fullback related questions. Although Kyler Murray had

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<v Speaker 1>a few things today to say about the run game,

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<v Speaker 1>Wow did he not? Oh PAULI, where where do we

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<v Speaker 1>begin on this one? Okay, So Kyler Murray meets the media.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're scoring at home? I do believe this is

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<v Speaker 1>the first time in the off season. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>had a power poll of all the press conferences that

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray has held, this has got to be top three.

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<v Speaker 1>Today has to be top three. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>did you see the powerpole? Wolf? As we started last

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<v Speaker 1>week with a powerpole. Nothing like a nice power pole

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<v Speaker 1>in June and the latest one in NFL dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, not to digress the powerpole. The biggest bandwagons

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<v Speaker 1>right now? You are digressing. The biggest bandwagon right here,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, according to NFL dot Com, happens to be

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals Week one opponent, the Tennessee Titans. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. Are you kidding me? They got yep?

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<v Speaker 1>And the Cardinals are number six, by the way, in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the biggest bandwagons right now, the Dolphins are

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<v Speaker 1>right on their heels and number seven. And then in

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<v Speaker 1>between three teams, you have a bunch of names. They

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<v Speaker 1>incorporated names into the biggest bandwagons. Joe Burrow, Brandon Staley

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<v Speaker 1>and the new head coach of the Chargers, former Rams

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<v Speaker 1>D coordinator Ceedee Lamb, Chase Young cam Akers, the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>running back. We know all about that guy. And then

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Campbell, the Lion's new head coach. Point, Paul, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that is some good stuff right there, honestly, Dan Campbell, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get me started on Dan Cambell. You mentor Dan Campbell,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know here it comes. I envisioned him and

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<v Speaker 1>in Chris Spielman sitting around a room ball by themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about bludgeoning each other. They're gonna put the blocking

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<v Speaker 1>sled in the front office in Detroit because spiels and

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Campbell are gonna be hitting the blocking soul between

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<v Speaker 1>some of their their power meetings. Look, here's Kyler Murray.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the press conference and a simple question,

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<v Speaker 1>where do you want to evolve your game? Kyler? Where

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to grow the most here in your

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<v Speaker 1>third season? I think all aspects of the game, but

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<v Speaker 1>leadership taking care of the ball, being better as far

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<v Speaker 1>as accuracy, just just the whole game. There's no one

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<v Speaker 1>in this building or that watches the game that's a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger critic of themselves or of me than I am.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know what I need to get better at.

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<v Speaker 1>When we get out throwing the field, I plan to

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<v Speaker 1>show you know I grew in those areas. Oh, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that right there? Are you kidding me? This

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly what I want to hear. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear this from Kyler Murray. I need to get better

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<v Speaker 1>in the little things. I need to get better in

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<v Speaker 1>leader ship, Pauly, he started with leadership. Yes, Paul, I

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<v Speaker 1>you know once again, I love that. Listen. You know

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<v Speaker 1>the way I feel about this, Polly. Humility is a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful mastery, truly is because it allows you to see

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<v Speaker 1>where you need to get better and what you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do to get better. And I love listening to

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<v Speaker 1>a guy articulate what obstacles he's got to overcome in

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<v Speaker 1>his career to get better. And you just heard it

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<v Speaker 1>right there from Guyler Murray. Love that. You know. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to watch the last three days of minicamp,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are a few takeaways. For example, in no

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<v Speaker 1>particular order, the rookie corners. I mean, man, if these

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<v Speaker 1>guys can play, they definitely look the part. When you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Tay Gowen and Marco Wilson, just the size

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<v Speaker 1>and athleticism, and these guys that look like corners of

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<v Speaker 1>the Seahawks would would draft the wide receiver position. Wolf

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<v Speaker 1>to me, you look out there and you go, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>AJ Green, Christian Kirk, Rondel Moore. Yeah, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>potential right there, but there's also a lot of question marks.

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<v Speaker 1>And Kyler Murray was asked today about his receivers, in

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<v Speaker 1>particular AJ Green. I expect I did have a big year.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you know, I know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>should sleep on him. I know a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>have been said about you know him, maybe not be

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<v Speaker 1>on to do it anymore or whatever. We don't really

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<v Speaker 1>care about that, you know, ignore all that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad he's on the team. I mean, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a great receiver room, more weapons than I can ask for,

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<v Speaker 1>and on paper, absolutely, but honestly, you have DeAndre Hopkins

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of unknowns right now. What can you

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<v Speaker 1>count on and bank on here? This season? When it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to that receiver room. Yeah, it is a great

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<v Speaker 1>question right there. What you can count on is d

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<v Speaker 1>hop That's number one I would stop with. I would

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<v Speaker 1>start I should say what DeAndre Hopkins. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>can count on that right there? I think you can

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<v Speaker 1>count on AJ Green. I do, at least, I think

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<v Speaker 1>AJ Green has got an awful lot to prove. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a very similar situation to the Pat P. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Pat P's gonna have a good year up there in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do, PAULI the guy's got so much talent.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only that, now all of a sudden he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in a defense. I think Mike Zimmer is

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<v Speaker 1>going to use him in a very very specific kind

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<v Speaker 1>of way. And I think the new scenery, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly he's got to prove himself all over again. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that is really going to help Pappy focus. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think a focus Pappy is going to be an

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<v Speaker 1>excellent Pappy. So I expect him to have a very

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<v Speaker 1>very good year. Can I say Aj Green in the

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<v Speaker 1>same light, in the same vein is what I'm speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of in regard to Pat P. I think AJ Green

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be that guy here too. He needed

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<v Speaker 1>a change of scenery, a change of offense. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>refresh button for aj greenball, all right, so hit zoom out.

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<v Speaker 1>Does the Cardinals offense in general need to change, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the run game. We know Kyler

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<v Speaker 1>Murray and what happened at Seattle in week nine with

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<v Speaker 1>the shoulder injury. Yes, and we know things. We're never

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<v Speaker 1>quite the same for whatever reason. Earlier in the week,

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<v Speaker 1>Cliff Kingsbury was asked about it, and he's used the

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<v Speaker 1>word uncomfortable. Kyler was uncomfortable push and he had a

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<v Speaker 1>push through you know, his physical state and that injury

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<v Speaker 1>to a large degree. And if you look at some

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<v Speaker 1>of the numbers the before and the after. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler's rushing yards per carry six point nine nearly seven

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<v Speaker 1>yards per carry in the nine games before Seattle, and

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<v Speaker 1>these numbers crunched by our Kyle Odegarden asy Cardinals dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>The final seven games, he averaged less than five yards

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<v Speaker 1>to carry and it had only one rushing touchdown under

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<v Speaker 1>the final seven games. And guess what he had ten

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<v Speaker 1>in the first nine games. So he was asked by

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle about that today, here's Kyler Murray. Well, if your

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<v Speaker 1>reaction to the shoulder injury and exactly what it did

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<v Speaker 1>or didn't do to the Cardinals running game. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>my legs should be a luxury. And it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like that last year. It was kind of me

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<v Speaker 1>having to run for us and once you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder was named up or whatever, and I wasn't trying

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<v Speaker 1>to put myself out there and take those hits and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Who kind of took a law, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hit a law. You know, honestly, I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>good for us. You know, think it was a lesson

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<v Speaker 1>for us that you know, we can't be one dimensional.

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<v Speaker 1>We just got to be better in all all areas,

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<v Speaker 1>all aspects of the game. Paul. I'll tell you right now,

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<v Speaker 1>in Vegas, when somebody hit the jackpot, they used to

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<v Speaker 1>say winner, winner, chicken dinner, Paul, because that basically it's

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<v Speaker 1>what you want. When in the very beginning of Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they did. Paul, ding Ding Ding ding Ding.

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<v Speaker 1>I endorse this message, Paul. You know you have listened

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<v Speaker 1>to me talk about this very thing. He can't be

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Vick, Paul, he can't. You can't build your offense

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<v Speaker 1>around Kyler Murray and say, Kyler's got to run the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>If you tell me that Kyler Murray's got to run

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<v Speaker 1>the ball for him to be effective in the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League, you're telling me, basically, he's Michael vec You

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<v Speaker 1>need to run him when when when you need it

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<v Speaker 1>the most. When I hear him say that his legs

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<v Speaker 1>are a luxury, Paul, that's exactly the way you want

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<v Speaker 1>to view him. Not in every down. Here we go,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray. We're gonna have you run the ball ten, eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve times a game. Let him scramble. Let it every

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<v Speaker 1>now and then when you need it the most, when

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<v Speaker 1>you need a first down, when you need a touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>in the red zone, let him run the ball. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>I got no problem with that. But man, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go into a game saying, well, we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>have Kyler Murray, our running game is built around Kyler Murray. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>you're your host. And look, he was dealing with injury.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, if you tell me the defense is also

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<v Speaker 1>adjusted accordingly in the second half of the season, did

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<v Speaker 1>they not, without a doubt, Paul, without a doubt. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what, And here's the thing with the whole zone

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<v Speaker 1>read concept. If I want Kyler Murray, I'm a defensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator and I want him to run the ball, I

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<v Speaker 1>can force you to run Kyler Murray on that zone read.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna go ahead and collapse that defensive end.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do whatever I can. I'll scheme something where a

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<v Speaker 1>backer is scraping to the outside waiting for Kyler Murray

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<v Speaker 1>on a zone read based on down in distance and

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<v Speaker 1>where you are. I'm just I'll crash that guy every

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<v Speaker 1>time and force Kyler to be the guy that runs

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<v Speaker 1>the ball so you can hit him. I'm just saying, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Roman, the OC of the Ravens, was just saying

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<v Speaker 1>to season ticket holders here in the last week, and

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<v Speaker 1>somehow this got out. He shared with them that Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson's going to be under center a lot more this year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what does that mean? You know? Cliff Cakesbury said, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>believe that when I see it. Because of what a

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<v Speaker 1>good running back Lamar Jackson is. You added Rodney Hudson,

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<v Speaker 1>You added Brian Winners at guard. These are maulers. These

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<v Speaker 1>are guys who come off the ball. You added James Sackson,

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<v Speaker 1>a power running back. What does that? Poor ten? What

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<v Speaker 1>does that forecast. I mean, you know, it'd be great

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<v Speaker 1>if we had James Saxon, the running backs coach, on next,

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<v Speaker 1>because we could ask him a ball at all this

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<v Speaker 1>and where exactly the run game is going and where

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<v Speaker 1>should it be. So we'll go from Kyler's thoughts to

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<v Speaker 1>the running backs coach next. The Big Red Rage presented

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<v Speaker 1>by Santan Ford in Gilbert. It's a run play right

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<v Speaker 1>inside big whole headmands twenty five twenty ten five touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>the inside zone being one and Chase Edmonds found the

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<v Speaker 1>hole into the house, Baby gives it to Connor, sweeps

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<v Speaker 1>the left side, gotta block at the tan Connor to

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<v Speaker 1>the five into the touchdown. James Cotter explosive, just the

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<v Speaker 1>weapons that we have, Chase doing this thing already, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, watching film, I'm like, man, just do

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<v Speaker 1>he can? He can ball and I want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>learn from him and be a part of it, get

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<v Speaker 1>to work with him. You know, I ain't no telling,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't predict with him, but I know what I

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<v Speaker 1>can guarantee. I'm gonna come in here and work day

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<v Speaker 1>in and day out from my head down and grind

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<v Speaker 1>and you know I'm inte for the long cost so

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen game season. I'm looking forward to it. James Conner

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<v Speaker 1>on the potential the ares on a Cardinals offense. You

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<v Speaker 1>want potential? How about James Connor himself? We say welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back into the Big Red Raid, presented by satan Ford

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<v Speaker 1>and Gilbert. We are Satan for the year was twenty

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<v Speaker 1>and eighteen, Wolf, just a couple of years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>you had James Connor with just under fifteen hundred yards

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<v Speaker 1>from scrimmage five point four yards of touch He had

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen touchdowns that season and that was his last season

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<v Speaker 1>with James Saxon our special guest tonight, Yes, It's all

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<v Speaker 1>about you, presented by santan Ford and Gilbert as the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals running backs coach is joining us this evening and

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<v Speaker 1>coach I guess Wolf has made this in an informal

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<v Speaker 1>rendition of the full back Club here tonight. The two

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<v Speaker 1>of you guys. Yeah, they ate your career and play

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<v Speaker 1>in the position as well. Absolutely, Wolf, Wolf and I

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<v Speaker 1>shortnecked a lot of people a day. Coach, how you doing, man,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for joining us. Man doing okay?

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<v Speaker 1>The family okay, Yeah, everybody's doing good. Man. I got

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new, a little one five months old. About congratulation. Gratulations, coach,

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<v Speaker 1>that is awesome, right there. Any place for a fullback

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<v Speaker 1>in the James Saxon running back room was always a

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<v Speaker 1>place about a little win. I'm lucky mylected all the work.

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<v Speaker 1>You got that right? Bad? Uh so? Well if yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the bad news out of the way first, uh no,

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<v Speaker 1>fullback on the horizon and the Cardinals offense as of

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<v Speaker 1>last right now, what are your takeaways from mini camp?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what you can glean or ascertain from

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<v Speaker 1>mini camp these days, but give me a couple of thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that the offseason is a rap coach, and next

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<v Speaker 1>stop is training camp. Well, I just think for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for us as coaches, and we got a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>be arounding guys and it's it's a lot um nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice to be able to be back to that

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<v Speaker 1>part of the game. And it's it's important for everybody

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<v Speaker 1>because it's it's a social game. We're social people, so

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<v Speaker 1>getting back together in any fashion was good. How did

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<v Speaker 1>the running backs look in your opinion, coach, I think

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<v Speaker 1>these guys came in in shape, and I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really early now, I think we feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>got a good group. Um, we got guys who are

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<v Speaker 1>capable of doing things we're gonna ask me to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just looking forward to getting this whole thing started.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler was talking today about what the run game could

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<v Speaker 1>or should look like. I mean, you go out in

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<v Speaker 1>the off season as Steve kime ads James Connor and

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<v Speaker 1>Rodney Hudson and Brian Winters and I look at that

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<v Speaker 1>and I really, you know, what the offensive line and

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<v Speaker 1>then call the pound game. I'm thinking, Okay, here we

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<v Speaker 1>go more of a straight ahead, power running game. What

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<v Speaker 1>should we expect this year? Well, you know, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to do the things where we're real good

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<v Speaker 1>at and you know, we're getting better a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different positions. And you know, Steve and those guys have

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<v Speaker 1>done a great job of acquired guys for us, and

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<v Speaker 1>we just got to put them in the right positions

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and be able to, you know, do

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<v Speaker 1>what the capable of doing. Um, you know, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be fun. I think it's gonna be fun to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as a coach, senator and helping these guys

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<v Speaker 1>get to places they want to go. So it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a fun fun thing to watch. James, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you look for in a running back specifically? Well, um, toughness.

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<v Speaker 1>You're toughness you get, they're not. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie good and running back in the NFL that I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever been around that wasn't probably toughest guy team or

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<v Speaker 1>add toughness that you could clearly see. Um, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that we have several guys like that in our roam,

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<v Speaker 1>including you know, obviously Chase and James. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>got young guys like Jonathan Ward and Nial Benjamin who

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<v Speaker 1>are these guys are hungry, Tabian Pieces and California Muhammad.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a good group of guys that I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to working with. Cardinals running backs coach James

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<v Speaker 1>Saxon our guest here on the Big Red Rage. I

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<v Speaker 1>see two running backs who are both in contract years

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<v Speaker 1>and a James Connor and a Chase Edmonds. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>like that? Do you like that two guys pushing each

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<v Speaker 1>other and improve it years in their career? You know that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've yet to be on a team that's

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<v Speaker 1>won the Super Bowl, but I've been in the Championship

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<v Speaker 1>game a couple of times. And the one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>know is that in this game, you gotta play. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>If if you want to be a great team, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a great player, man, you gotta you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be able to compete at the same level or

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<v Speaker 1>even better than the best players in the sport. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's to me, that's that's it, mean, that's part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's where everybody who wants to win

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<v Speaker 1>in this game has to go. And you got to

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<v Speaker 1>beat the best that you want to be the best.

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<v Speaker 1>James talk to me about Chase Edmunds and his skill

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<v Speaker 1>set and the type of football player is. I absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>love his mentality. Talk a little bit about Chase Edmunds. Well, um,

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<v Speaker 1>probably one of the smartest guys I've ever been around.

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<v Speaker 1>Question the guys not only a phenomenal above the next

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<v Speaker 1>person and just a personable human. Just love being around

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<v Speaker 1>him talking to him. He's an excellent athlete and the

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<v Speaker 1>guy's got it's self confidence. It's just that just looses

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<v Speaker 1>out of him and everybody around the building just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gravitates towards him. And Uh, it's good for our

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<v Speaker 1>team and I think that you know, these guys are

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<v Speaker 1>grown together and as you know, when you got guys

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<v Speaker 1>like Chase and you add a guy like James, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it just it is great for you. You

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<v Speaker 1>set me up right there on that note, same question,

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<v Speaker 1>James Conner, talk to me about this dude. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is a pro. Um. It's been fun. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was fun to be around him from the first

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<v Speaker 1>two years in the league, and then you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was fun watching him from Afar and you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>to get a chance to be back around that guy. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy means you know, there's no words I can

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<v Speaker 1>use to describe, you know, how I see it about

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<v Speaker 1>that kid, Um, other than you know, I'm extremely excited.

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<v Speaker 1>We're extremely excited that he chose to come here and

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<v Speaker 1>be with us. And and it's gonna it's gonna it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a good thing. And again, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>fun to watch. Can can he catch the ball? The

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<v Speaker 1>backfield to catch the ball? Yeah, I mean, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you want to ask an elephant to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ride in the sailboat this guy. Yeah, but now he's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna put that guy in the best position to

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<v Speaker 1>help us, and and he more than will him to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. He's gonna be prepared. I was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>my older brother Craig about James Connor, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>you know Craig as well, and he was so sad

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<v Speaker 1>to actually see him leave right there. He was telling

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<v Speaker 1>me that Mike Tomlin absolutely was heartbroken that they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get something done, heartbroken that James Connor was actually walking

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<v Speaker 1>out of that organization. Mike Tomlin, I guess called him

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<v Speaker 1>as Belle cow a running back that was a three

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<v Speaker 1>down back. Do you see him as a three down back?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the guy's capable of doing whatever you ask

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<v Speaker 1>him to do. And in this league, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>longer you see in this league, you have to evolve

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<v Speaker 1>and become smarter. And that's that's that's the bottom line

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<v Speaker 1>for any guy that surviveing this league for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm I say survive, we're talking about thrive and

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<v Speaker 1>be a factor on football team because nobody stays it's over.

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<v Speaker 1>You get in this league and not be productive on

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<v Speaker 1>mean done, the teams move on for guys like that book.

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<v Speaker 1>When you got guys, we're gonna continue some produce. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean want you want those days and I get it

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<v Speaker 1>most of the talk in the off season has been

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<v Speaker 1>about the one two punch of Chase Edmonds and James Connor.

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<v Speaker 1>But the question that Chase gets the most is can

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<v Speaker 1>he be in every down running back? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>say to that? Um? You know, I I tell those

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<v Speaker 1>guys all the time. I said, you know, nobody goes

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<v Speaker 1>at hall saying it's not available. There's not one guy

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<v Speaker 1>in all things who hasn't played. We hadn't been available.

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<v Speaker 1>And the number one thing in order to be productive

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<v Speaker 1>and important part of the team, you gotta be available

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<v Speaker 1>and you gotta produce. And you know, we feel like

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's gonna be capable doing those things otherwise I

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<v Speaker 1>see him. He's ready. So it's gonna be fun again. Watch.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is the best asset? I know that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fascinated with James Connor, but anybody who's two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty pounds, I'm telling you right now, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do. This is just me now, James. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna light him up in the queue. I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>him behind the queue and I'm going to attack the down.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to attack the box said down and kill.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I that wrong? Or what now you This game

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<v Speaker 1>is a game of playing in the league. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>game of many battles, and you play within the scheme

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<v Speaker 1>of what you're doing offensively or defensively with these positions play,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are many battles, and you know, I always

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<v Speaker 1>like to tell guys, you know it does there's reality

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's perception. So are you one person or

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<v Speaker 1>you two? Well, you know you guys are watching your

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<v Speaker 1>tape all week long. I'm trying to figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like listening to his coach and then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, the game, you know, his game day,

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<v Speaker 1>Now all of a sudden can meet you. So did

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<v Speaker 1>you meet these expectations or did you go beyond that?

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<v Speaker 1>So if you go beyond it, then then then there's

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<v Speaker 1>mental games that happened. But now it's he is. He's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what he's advertised to be. He's a downhill runner.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nobs. It's crazy. I looked up a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of his history and James Connor was a star running

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<v Speaker 1>back in high school obviously, and a star defensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about that combination. And then he comes in as

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<v Speaker 1>a true freshman at Pitt and he broke Tony Dorset's

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<v Speaker 1>record for rushing in a Bowl game. I mean, so

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<v Speaker 1>yere's a guy with size and speed able to move.

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<v Speaker 1>You have that element, the one two punch. And then

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<v Speaker 1>what was interesting in the offseason, coach, is that Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Coogler was promoted to run game coordinator. Obviously you're a

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<v Speaker 1>big part of that. And then Cliff Kingsbury. Obviously, how's

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<v Speaker 1>that going to go this year? The game planning and

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<v Speaker 1>formulating the run game from week to week? How's that

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<v Speaker 1>going to go? Well? I think coach does a great job,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, putting this plan together and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>allowed coaches to work and you know, Coogs is a

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<v Speaker 1>great human being. It's gonna be easy to work with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Hyde and Jim Dre you know, Can Turning, all

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<v Speaker 1>these guys that we uh were as an offense was

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<v Speaker 1>working together. But it's gonna be fun, you know. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I hadn't worked with a guy you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let coos Um. He's about as good as you ever

0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:05.240
<v Speaker 1>want to get. He makes coming to work fun. You know.

0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:08.119
<v Speaker 1>Coach Kingsberry has done that with everybody and stuff. We've

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:11.200
<v Speaker 1>got a great group of group of coaches and everybody

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:13.960
<v Speaker 1>enjoys being around each other and that makes it easy working.

0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 1>And then h so we're looking forward to getting this thing. Sorry,

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:20.639
<v Speaker 1>So James, you gotta help me out here, I mean

0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the running back room and say, tell

0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:26.199
<v Speaker 1>me who I should be talking off as we get

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go into training gap right here? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>a guy you know? Yeah? Ahead. I think that the

0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:36.119
<v Speaker 1>group that we have is is as good as E's. Um.

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think that all six of these guys

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:42.200
<v Speaker 1>have you know, qualities that you can give to a

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:45.760
<v Speaker 1>team that make it help. I'm and again, I'm I'm

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.440
<v Speaker 1>just looking. I'm excited for every guy's opportunity and it's

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna be fun again, like I said, it'd be fun

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 1>to watch. I tell you one of my takeaways from

0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 1>watching three days a mini camps that you know, Benjamin

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:58.360
<v Speaker 1>ran every single drill, I mean, even the warm ups.

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:00.520
<v Speaker 1>He was going one hundred and ten percent. He he

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:02.880
<v Speaker 1>was out there seemingly to make a statement with every

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:05.640
<v Speaker 1>single rep. Honestly, even when guys are just going half

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:07.960
<v Speaker 1>speed and warm it up, he was seemingly going full

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>speeded he catch your eye a little bit, you know, Yeah,

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:14.880
<v Speaker 1>he's you know, anybody who've got the obviously you want.

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 1>All these kids have ability. I mean, he's got great ability.

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 1>He's just having It's gonna be time for him. He's

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:24.200
<v Speaker 1>just gonna have to take advantage of whatever opportunities to

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 1>get the greatest one play here. Maybe it's Can who knows,

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 1>but he's gonna have to be prepared to be available

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 1>number one and number two, to be able to execute

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.879
<v Speaker 1>properly the things we're gonna ask him to do. He's

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:39.440
<v Speaker 1>an exciting you. And Claire Johnson Moore's extremely exciting you,

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 1>and Claire Taby and Feast, a guy who's you know,

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:45.360
<v Speaker 1>bounced around a little bit in California, Muhammad, who Coops

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:48.119
<v Speaker 1>had and never deavor with him. I mean, skee to.

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Those guys got something different that makes them all valuable. Coach,

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:57.400
<v Speaker 1>what are your thoughts on Kyler Murray as a young

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:01.159
<v Speaker 1>quarterback developing and his develop meant this year? What do

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:07.400
<v Speaker 1>you expect from Kyler? You know, I think that everybody

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>expects something from him, But I think the guy can't

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 1>get any better coaching than coach. He's there um and

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>he is. His kid is going to light it up

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 1>even more. I'm just I'm just I think we're all

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 1>in a position if we're gonna sit here, you know,

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>wash out. His kid develops and grows into everything, and

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 1>everybody expects me to be um And that's not putting

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 1>pressure on him. Eat. I'm sure he understands that better

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 1>than anybody. But it's just gonna it's gonna be fun

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 1>just to see how coach takes him and he begins

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to grow into exactly what everybody believes he can be.

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Your days is elite blocking back. Who was your toughest battle?

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Who was your toughest battle you had to meet in

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the whole Coach, You know there's a lot of guys, man,

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean fullback. We don't remember when we were running

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:58.879
<v Speaker 1>into you. Just you just appreciate the activity. Could I

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>say Harry Carson? Can I say Mike Singletary? Can I say, oh, hey,

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 1>though Mike Singletary is the only lineback, well, he's one

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 1>of two linebackers I've ever blocked that. After play was over,

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I got coached the field, James. I love you man,

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Thank you brother, Thanks coach. We appreciate it. No problem.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys have a great week. Yeah, that's awesome. There

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>you go, Cardinals running Backs coach James Saxon, and uh,

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:32.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's where his coaching career started right there actual field.

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:35.959
<v Speaker 1>Carl Banks in there as well, Paully Mike Singletary had

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:37.440
<v Speaker 1>an impression amount him. He went on to be a

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:39.639
<v Speaker 1>twenty year coach in the NFL back with more in

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:44.639
<v Speaker 1>the Big Red Rage. After this, Brady gets a stamp

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 1>from Andrew Falco's trying to get the accepted. Coming back

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:54.160
<v Speaker 1>up the field, it's Robert Albert Albert forty Bertie twenty fifteen,

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 1>ten five and he will walk into the internal at

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:02.719
<v Speaker 1>eighty one yard big six. He knows if he's healthy, man,

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 1>he's a big party his defense and when you're speaking

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 1>about leaders and guys, that's pushing guys man. He is

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 1>on top of our listens Ford leaders. Yeah, when he's healthy,

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>he can play. And when he's out in that field,

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 1>you can't miss him. Just his style of play, how

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>vocal he is. He was a can't miss guy. In

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.880
<v Speaker 1>the last three days at mini camp Bans Joseph there

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>on Robert Alford who has missed the last two years

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 1>with injury. So some advice from Vans Joseph there. We

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>got coached up by James Saxon in the last segment,

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals running backs coach, and I guess that's what I

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 1>get wolf huh. Here on the Big Red Race presented

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>by Santan Ford and Gilbert, I ask, you know, Ken,

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>a two hundred and thirty something pound running back, catch

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the ball? And then what was this quote? What was

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the response to me? It was something about us you

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>don't put an elephant in a sailboat, paul I believe

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>that was what he said. That's you know, I mean,

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:54.119
<v Speaker 1>where's to live by him? Like, very profound right there,

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>don't put an elephant on a sailboat. If there's no

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>doubt about that. I got to write that down, Paulie,

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and remember that, I'm gonna use it to morning. Don't

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>overthink it. Basically, it's what he's saying, okay, right, which

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>is what I was guilty of doing right there. So

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:10.639
<v Speaker 1>now look, I don't think I'm overthinking it when I say, okay.

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>The biggest question looming over this team, the biggest answer

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>they need out of training camp is cornerback agree or disagree? Oh, Polly, yeah, yes,

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I think on the defensive side of the ball, I

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>definitely think from a positional perspective. And it's tough, Polly,

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:32.160
<v Speaker 1>because I know Robert Alfred. You can't bank on Robert

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Alford the last two years. I understand he's suffered severe

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>injuries that have ruined his seasons for two years. You

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 1>got to go all the way back to twenty eighteen

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>to watch him on tape in a game. For the

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>most part, I understand that. But if you tell me

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Robert Alford is going to be healthy, I think they're

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>going to be fine out there. For me, it's the

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>inside linebacker position. That is the one position that I

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>am going to be looking at and watching very closely

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>with Zaven Collins and Isaiah Simmons. Yeah, and I get

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>it absolutely. Alfred, as we know, was having a great

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>camp twenty nineteen and then oh man, he broke his

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>lower leg out for the season. Last year. He was

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>bawling ye and then out of nowhere a torn pack

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and so miss the season again. And the question of

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Robert Alfred today, Wolf was did you ever consider retirement?

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Not at all? Man, Nah, I'm not ready to hang

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>him up at all. So, um, you always gonna have

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>dark times, man, in anything that you do. Um, I mean,

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>if you love what you do. I mean, you're gonna

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>use that to motivate you. And that's what I use

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>these past two years as get better at studying film.

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Um something that I could get out of it that

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>was positive for me. Man, That is music to my

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 1>ears right there, Polly. Just the fact that he said

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 1>that he wasn't ready to retire ball, not like you,

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't ready to retire ball. Make me an offer.

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Where's the golden parachute. I'm ready to sign the line

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>that has dotted, there's no t That's what I want

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 1>to hear out of my potential starting corner. I want

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to hear somebody that has resolved and love of the game.

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's the one thing you hear about Robert Alford.

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>You hear it from his teammates, you hear it from

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>his coaches, you hear it from the guys in the

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>front office ball. He loves ball. He loves everything about it.

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>He's an alpha, He's an alpha male. He's a dog,

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and he's very similar in mentality and very similar in

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>his soul. Paul to a guy that the Arizona Cardinals

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>brought in, Malcolm Butler. Yeah, I mean job number one

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>was one in the offseason, Steve Kind wanted to get

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>everybody now more physical. Yes, well, you didn't have to

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>go out and get Robert Alford. He was already from

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the roster now. Cliff Kingsbury interestingly told the media this

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>week that Robert Alford literally told management, told the decision makers,

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I owe you guys one. So they cut him. They

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>resigned him to a bargain basement deal. And he's out

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>there and he's playing, and you mentioned the respect he

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 1>gets from his teammates. Will speaking of Buddha Baker was

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>asked this week about Robert Alford. Those of you who

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>do not know Robert Alfred, He's a big talker, a

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 1>guy who loves the game, a guy who you know

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>last year and would still go to meetings, would still

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>go to practice and watch practice and help young guys

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>out or help you know, older guys out and seeing things.

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>So now that he's on the field and I know

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>he's very excited, he still looks like the great Robert Alford.

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Fresh Robert Alford. Wolf. If Robert Alford is healthy, to

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>your point, he's out there. And then Malcolm Butler, mister

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>more than one hundred tackles a year ago, as a corner.

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I had a chance to talk with Rob Moore. Do

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you remember Rob Moore, former Cardinals receiver. Of course I do, Paul,

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>he's now the Titans receivers coach. And I mentioned Malcolm

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Butler just in conversation and he reacteds at all. He'll

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 1>fight you now, he'll fight you. So you're gonna have

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 1>two physical corners, potentially Byron Murphy on the inside. Okay,

0:31:57.200 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>but once again it's predicated on Alfred stand healthy and well,

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>if you know, on the big Red rage a few

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago at Greg Williams and I want you to

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>ract once again when we fresh your memory on the

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>cornerbacks coach, and he's Scott a report. You guys saw

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Robert Alfred from a training camp standpoint over the last

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>two years. We were expecting big things from him he

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the last two years just from his performance in what

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 1>he brings from a tenacity level to our team into

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>our secondary. I mean, this guy is energy in a bottle.

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? If you if you're ever

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 1>around how he is always on and he's a dog

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 1>in the appear to the other words. Samy just listened

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 1>to that, Paul. It's one of the reasons why I've

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 1>been talking about Robert Alfred for how many years, I

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>mean just years waiting to see Robert Alfred out there

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 1>playing on the field, and Paul, to your point, in

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>training camp, he was the best player on the field.

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>He was. He was out there absolutely bawling. And that's

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 1>why if this guy can stay healthy, it's really going

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>to change a lot for the Arizona Cardinals. And Paul,

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>by the way, the passing defense for the Arizona Cardinals

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>not nearly as bad is purported by everybody. Everybody has

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>a perception they were awful last year. They were number

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>ten as a matter of fact, and yards per game

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 1>number seven and yards per play. Paulie, you put those

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>two things together right there, that's very, very tough. That's

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>a top ten past defense, number five in sacks per attempt,

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 1>number twelve on third down defense, and a defensive quarterback rating.

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>And you know that this is big to me because

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>you go ahead with a quarterback rating, you look at

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>it year in and year out, the best quarterbacks in

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>the NFL, they're in the top ten every year. That

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>that quarterback rating has got to be accurate to some degree.

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 1>It's a decent measurement of how a human being plays

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>that position. Will now flip it over a defensive quarterback rating.

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>They were in the top half of the league, number fourteen.

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact. How much better can they

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:54.719
<v Speaker 1>be with a healthy Chandler Jones? How much better can

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>they be with JJ Watt? How much better can they

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 1>be with JJ Watt, Jordan Phillips and Chandler Jones. I'm

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>bullish on this defense getting better, in particular if Robert

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Alford is healthy, if you can believe in Jalen Thompson

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>as well staying healthy, Yes, along with and I'll tell

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you these two rookie corners who have been getting a

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:19.839
<v Speaker 1>lot of reps and they look the part, and Tay

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Gollen and Marco Wilson, one of those guys can just

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>be counted on to contribute at some point and get

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 1>into that rotation because well, if you know fas Joseph,

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.800
<v Speaker 1>his base defense is three corners. He's going five dbs

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>more than half the time. You need at least a

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 1>trio of corners. Yeah, there's no doubt about it, Paulie.

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>You do. And yet at the same time, you can

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>leave two linebackers on the field that are never gonna

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:48.360
<v Speaker 1>come off and Zaven Collins and Isaiah Simmons. I can't

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>wait to see that grows strong grasshoppers. Well, I'll tell

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:55.720
<v Speaker 1>you what, Well, before you go out running down the street,

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:57.919
<v Speaker 1>we have one segment to go here and we're talking

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>about Isaiah Simmons, those inside linebackers. What exactly did the

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:04.919
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals see so far? It is the big red rage

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:12.240
<v Speaker 1>presented by Satan four in Gilbert shotguns, snapped to Wilson,

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>straight drop back, steps up in the pocket, takes off

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 1>running far side of the forty and drilled by Simmons

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 1>at the forty one. Isaiah Simmons is balling. How you

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>do things outside of the facility and off the field,

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 1>like going home, and how long you choose to study,

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>what you choose to do extra, what you choose to

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>do after practice is over. That's something that I've always,

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, done, but you know, it's just a whole

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 1>new level when you're a pro, just because at this

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 1>level where everybody's physically gifted, everyone's an athlete, and I

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:44.800
<v Speaker 1>feel like where people separate themselves as the mental aspect

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>of the game, and then you throw in what Bill

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Davis Cardinals linebackers coach told us last week here on

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the Big Red Rage presented by satan Ford and Gilbert,

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>how many different positions did the coaches ask the rookie

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Simmons to play last year without an off season?

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Was it six? Paul? I mean half dozen? You're absolutely right.

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 1>We think about that, right Ding. So he's gonna be now, look,

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>are they going to use him as a wildcard? Absolutely,

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 1>at least that's my expectation. Not to the degree though

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>a year ago, because now he's needed on an every

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 1>down basis to be alongside Zavian Collins and so, but

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, that threat will still be there. But I

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 1>think he'll be able to go ahead and streamline things

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. We'll be able to focus on the

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>one position and then you know, hopefully now with an

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>offseason and being out on that field and year one

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 1>under his belt, Wolf, what are your expectations Rizaiah Simmons Man,

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I expect Isaiah Simmons to explode this year. I think

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>he is going to have a huge year. We loved

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:45.840
<v Speaker 1>him when he was taking number eight overall by the

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Arizona Cardinals. We absolutely loved his game, his skill set,

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>of course, Pauly, but I think he's on the prescipice

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 1>right now of having a huge year. And the reason

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 1>why I say that is because of what Bill Davis

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:01.839
<v Speaker 1>has told us this offseason and including the last time

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 1>he was on he was talking about the intelligence of

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Simmons and just listening to Isaiah Simmons right there, Paulie.

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>The mental side of it is critical. It's what separates

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 1>one player from the next player. And this is going

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 1>to be the challenge Isaiah Simmons is gonna have to

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>go out improve it now. I mean, this is a

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 1>prove it league. This is the great thing about it.

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:27.879
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have front row seats to two inside linebackers

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 1>with incredible skill, incredible talent that both are going to

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 1>have to go out and improve it. Paul that he

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>would play in the NFL. That's the last box that

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>needs to be checked, right obviously, as lay athleticism, just

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>break he proved to you this time a year ago.

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 1>You were wondering, Okay, does he have the physicality. He's

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>got it, PAULI stick his face into the fire. I've

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:50.320
<v Speaker 1>seen him do it. So now do you have the

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:54.240
<v Speaker 1>mental aptitude to play the prussion, the instincts the football

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>IQ and and let's be honest, is Son Reddick never

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>quite got it and that was the difference. He had

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot of athleticism him as well. He was hard nosed,

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>but making the transition from edged inside linebacker he never

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 1>quite caught on. He was always a half step slow,

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:10.879
<v Speaker 1>and that was enough to get him beat and get

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>him out of the rotation. Now he's in Carolina, so

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you have these two young linebackers advanced. Joseph the decordinator

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 1>this week was asked about Isaiah Simmons impairing him with

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the rookie Zavin Collins. I think as a coach, you

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>have to understand it's going to be some bad downs,

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>but also on a flip side, it's gonna be played

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>that those two guys can make that other guys can't make.

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.719
<v Speaker 1>It's our job as a staff mine, especially to put

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 1>players first, in scheme second, you know, and to let

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>those guys unlock those bodies and just play. You know,

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>So when you're playing with two young backers, and I

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 1>did it in Sam fran We had Pat Willis and

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Navarro Bowman when they were young guys, and you know,

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:48.839
<v Speaker 1>we kind of simplify things, and a lot of those

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 1>guys are running hit. Was that you that just pounded

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>the tables? Pounded the table right there? Because I was

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 1>thinking of Navarro Bowman and Patrick Willis. You've mentioned those

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:01.320
<v Speaker 1>guys numerous times. Have you been talking advanced Joseph? I

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 1>have not been talking to vance Joseph Paully, but that

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean those guys right there. When I think of

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>some of the best linebacking tandems the NFL has ever

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 1>known on the inside, I think of those guys, There's

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it. Luke Keekley and Thomas Davis as well, PAULI.

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Those two guys were incredible inside linebackers for years with

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 1>a Carolina Panthers. I think of those two guys, I

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 1>think at Carolina and I think of the San Francisco

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 1>forty nine ers. What can I can I just nocalize

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:35.320
<v Speaker 1>a pet peeve here? Okay? Why why do you always

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.840
<v Speaker 1>fail to site last year's Super Bowl winner? Did you

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 1>happen to see Devin White and Lavante David Demi? Okay, Paul, Yes,

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 1>there was a playoff game. Tom Brady threw three picks

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 1>in the second half. They still won. Why because of

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 1>those two linebackers. They were destroying teams in the postseason

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>on that side of the ball. And if it's a

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 1>copycat league, do we not have a fresh reminder of

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>the Tampa Bay Bucks and their dynamic young linebacking crew. Yeah,

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 1>but now you're you're just piling on, Paul. Okay, you're

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 1>just piling onto my point right here in What I

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>love about this as well is provided that these two

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 1>guys and they got to prove it. Paul, I'm sorry,

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 1>this is a prove it league. I've said it before.

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 1>You got to prove it. They're gonna stick their face,

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:15.359
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be able to hold up at the point

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>of attack. I think Isaiah Simmons is going to be

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 1>that guy. We need to see Zavian Collins do it

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>as well. He needs to be aggressive. He needs to

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 1>show that he's gonna stick his face on somebody and

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna hold up at the point of attack. And

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 1>if you tell me those two guys do that. The

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 1>physicality side of it, they've got that covered and all

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, the athleticism and in coverage and their length, Paul,

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 1>can you imagine there won't be two inside linebackers that

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>are longer or taller than those two guys in the league. Paul,

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.879
<v Speaker 1>it is striking when you watch them and they're out there,

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>whether it was seven on seven, well, I mean just

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>to see. First you got to get past the numbers set.

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.279
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna throw this in my face that you've been

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>out there at practice, but first you gotta get past

0:40:58.520 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the numbers. Well, if you gotta get passing on with

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 1>one inside linebacker is wearing nine and the others wearing

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty five. But as soon as you get past that,

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:07.800
<v Speaker 1>then you realize, oh my goodness, look at the measurables

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 1>out there. Zaven Collins is very vocal and look, Wolf,

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 1>we both agree. We don't agree on much, but we

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.800
<v Speaker 1>both agree that players know players. And when Buddha Bakers

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.359
<v Speaker 1>said this week about Zaven Collins, he said, on his own,

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even asked about Zamon Collins, and he offered up

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 1>and he said, you know what, he gets it. He

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 1>understands football. Quote end quote. That made me a lot

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 1>more bullish on the rookie handling the green dot and

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 1>calling the defense. He's very vocal out there. He's not shy,

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and so look there's gonna be risk reward, There's no

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 1>doubt about it with two young guys in the middle.

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 1>But as Van's Joseph said, players first, scheme second. Yeah,

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 1>so we're seeing a bit of a philosophical change here,

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 1>perhaps going all the way back to the war room.

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>In this selection is Zaven Collins, where Steve Kine looked

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 1>at the camera and said, hey, these he's a starter

0:41:55.840 --> 0:42:00.399
<v Speaker 1>day one book it. Yeah, yeah, they absolutely there's a doubt.

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>But what I like is we talked to Billy Davis,

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 1>the inside linebacker coach last week, right Paully, and he

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 1>was talking about Isaiah Simmons, and I asked him specifically, well,

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Simmons be able to help Zaven Collins, and he

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 1>without a shadow of a doubt, without any hesitations that

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:20.279
<v Speaker 1>that's a great thing about it. Isaiah Simmons is a

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>very very bright kid and knows the game and his

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 1>knows the defense and knows the calls. He'll be able

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:29.760
<v Speaker 1>to help Zaven Collins. So you know what, Paul, again,

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>like I say, I don't want to get out of

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 1>my lane here because you've got to prove it to me.

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 1>This is a prove it league. Raise the bar for

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 1>every rookie. It's it's Paul. It's so hard to come

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:45.360
<v Speaker 1>in from the college game and make an impact on

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 1>an NFL team because it's just the best of the

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>best and it's a completely different game. And I just

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, sometimes I've got to cool my

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 1>jets on these guys. You've got to prove it to me.

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's what our expect should be. And Zaman Collins

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:03.840
<v Speaker 1>is going to be the guy. I can tell you

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>just conversations I've had. Jordan Hicks ain't walking through that door.

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>He will not be a part of the Ears on

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 1>a Cardinals come training camp. So that's the way. The

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 1>other thing that gave me a little bit of hope

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.320
<v Speaker 1>was what Buddhas said this week and he asked was

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 1>asked about this year's version of the defense, bringing in

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of leaders, guys like JJ Watton on that

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 1>side of the ball. And this is Buddha now, and

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.319
<v Speaker 1>I quote, you know what, We're able to hold each

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 1>other accountable, and that's something that guys haven't really done

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the past few years. Hold each other accountable, and quote

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Buddha Baker, so hopefully, and let me tell you, JJ

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Watt leading every single d line drill, bringing ridiculous energy

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 1>and it just it is a different vibe out. There

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.919
<v Speaker 1>was some different personalities on that side of the ball,

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 1>some new, some returning from injury. And there's your point

0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>with you got to Malcolm Button and or Robert Alfred,

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>totally different mindset at corner. These are guys who will

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:04.280
<v Speaker 1>brawl with you every single snap and that's all by design.

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 1>As we know, they wanted, they wanted this. This is

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:08.920
<v Speaker 1>where they hoped to head in the off season. You

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:13.399
<v Speaker 1>know what, PAULI, do your job. That's what they need

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:16.800
<v Speaker 1>to do. Do your job, and that's soul that that

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:20.120
<v Speaker 1>should be the theme of this year. Do your job,

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>go out, be accountable to yourself first and then to

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:26.880
<v Speaker 1>each other man. You know, coaches, put the sains up

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>on the wall. Do your job. That's one um and

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 1>then we'll add to an effective this show. Don't put

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 1>an elephant on a sailboat. That'll be the other you know, discipline, focus, commitment,

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and then don't put an elephant on a sailboat. So

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:44.840
<v Speaker 1>put him in the queue and let him run downhill.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, special thanks Jim Mo mondro Cody Fincher, Wolf

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>getting ready, Kyler under Center. I'm calling her right now.

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