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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I don't come to stuff.

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Speaker 1: I've never told your protection of I heart radio. And

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Speaker 1: today we are so filled. We are so so so

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Speaker 1: excited to be joined by a very special guest, Liz Winstead. Hi, Los, Hi, guys.

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Speaker 1: We are so happy to have you here. This is

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Speaker 1: such an exciting time. I'm not gonna lie. I've already

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Speaker 1: talked about the fact that I'm a fan girling a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I'm a little bit nervous, and our listeners

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Speaker 1: know when I fan girl, I get really stuttery, So

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Speaker 1: go ahead and put that at the beginning of the episode, because,

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Speaker 1: like I said, I'm a fan. I've seen your shows,

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Speaker 1: I've seen your stand up. So I'm having a moment

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Speaker 1: and now I'm back. But we're so glad you're with us,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for coming on, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: I'm super stoked. I love your pod and just any

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Speaker 1: chance to honestly connect with other women. I'm just like, please,

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Speaker 1: I'm hungering for it, like like a thirst trap, just

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Speaker 1: for like female people. I love that we are too,

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Speaker 1: So you're in the right place. So Liz, could you

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Speaker 1: tell the audience a little bit about yourself? Sure. So

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Speaker 1: I am a comedian and a writer and a producer.

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Speaker 1: Most folks know me from being the creator and head

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Speaker 1: writer of the Daily Show, and we're in it's the

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Speaker 1: anniversary this year of the Daily Show, which is wild

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Speaker 1: to me. We have a baby and now it's twenty five.

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Speaker 1: And then I went on to launch Air America Radio

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Speaker 1: of years. And then I've done a series of TV

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Speaker 1: shows and I wrote a book, and all of that

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Speaker 1: I wanted to do my passion project, which was taking

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Speaker 1: humor and taking dragging hypocrites for filth, using humor and

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Speaker 1: trying to make a difference and centering reproductive health rights

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Speaker 1: and justice because sadly, y'all, for those of you that

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Speaker 1: care about these issues, we just even within people who

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Speaker 1: on politics, they often try to silo abortion and act

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Speaker 1: You know, And to have to thrust those things or

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Speaker 1: hear those things from people who are supposedly on our side.

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Speaker 1: It's like our humanities at stake and everyone should care.

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Speaker 1: And so I really wanted to try to recenter the

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Speaker 1: conversation around the humanity of access to reproductive care, to

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Speaker 1: they are in their reproductive lifetime, you know, reframing it

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Speaker 1: as a moral choice. So that's what I'm doing now.

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Speaker 1: And I'm still out of the road doing stand up.

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Speaker 1: I'm still writing, but I run a reproductive rights nonprofit

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Speaker 1: that I started with a whole bunch of comedians and

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Speaker 1: activists and producers called Abortion Access Front. And yeah, like

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm a huge fan. We actually had Chanelle

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Speaker 1: Remember that Annie, when we were actually in the studio,

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Speaker 1: when y'all were in Atlanta performing at the Earl. I

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Speaker 1: feels like it in my head. Chanel Ali is so funny.

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Speaker 1: parents said, so I thought some other step to that

428
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Speaker 1: wasn't great. Because my dad was from Philadelphia, Mississippi, which

429
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Speaker 1: if you've never heard of Philadelphia, Mississippi, it's where the

430
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Speaker 1: Mississippi Burning murders happened. So that's the town that my

431
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Speaker 1: dad grew up in. And then my mom was from

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Speaker 1: the Twin Cities and they met in Washington, d C.

433
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Speaker 1: During World War Two, and so she dragged him to

434
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Speaker 1: this socialist hellscape and hand yeah, but the connecting with

435
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: people over humor, and I guess when the Daily Show

436
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,479
Speaker 1: is getting started really taking off. That was right around

437
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: like that goal for thing CNN and that twenty four

438
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: hour cable news was taking off. And for me personally,

439
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: I loved the Daily Show because the news was so

440
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: hard for me to consume often. But if I could

441
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: get it through a comedic form, even if sometimes it

442
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,719
Speaker 1: was still really painful or like scary, it was just

443
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: so much easier for me to watch it. And I

444
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: am someone who thinks it is important to stay informed,

445
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: so I'm so happy that that was an option, And

446
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: it did make me feel us alone because I did

447
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: grow up in a really conservative space and sometimes I

448
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: would think, is there literally anyone else who agreed like

449
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: as having these thoughts of these feelings. Is it just

450
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: me that thinks that this is messed up? And it

451
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: was so comforting to have that and see you're not

452
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: alone and other people are laughing at that, and you're

453
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Speaker 1: laughing at that, and you are connect thing over it.

454
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 1: And so through your time as being at the forefront

455
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: of political satire, have you seen has it changed? Have

456
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: you seen it change I've seen it change in the

457
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: sense of what used to be clear satire is now

458
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: it's very hard to satirize when you have movements that

459
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: believe Hillary Clinton was running a pedophile ring in the

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Speaker 1: basement of a people parliament, for example, and you had

461
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: literally right, and so how do you satirize that? Like

462
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: I literally wrote a joke about the Georgia voting legislation

463
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: where it was like, you know, part of the Georgia

464
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Speaker 1: voting laws is that you can't just vote, you have

465
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Speaker 1: to you have to walk through checkpoint Charlie Daniels, and

466
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: people were like, is that true? And I was like, no,

467
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: it's that, but I know, like I know that it

468
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: seems like it could be right. So part of it

469
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: has been satirizing this is which has been really hard.

470
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: The other part that's been really interesting is watching people

471
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: who like late night shows, would always do really banal

472
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: kind of political jokes, if they would do any at all,

473
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: And when Trump happened, a lot of armchair folks jumped

474
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: in and became Trumpian and did Trump material and called

475
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: the political satire right. I used to be able to

476
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: do like material around, like when Obama was creating Obamacare,

477
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: like there was a myriad of things around that, and

478
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: I could tell the story of the evolution of Obamacare,

479
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: and I could talk about the haters who are like

480
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: useless and all the death panel stuff, and then I

481
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: could talk about the rollout of Obamacare and just laugh

482
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: about all of the crazy things that happened and really

483
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: do like ten minutes on explaining something that was an

484
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: issue that you could hit all the parts of it.

485
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: And it's really hard now because you have people kind

486
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: of doing surfacing material that's you know about Trump wearing

487
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: a diaper. I don't care, He's just drowing democracy, you

488
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so having fancy comedians doing

489
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: hacky political material has been a little bit hard when

490
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: you're trying to do something and I don't want to

491
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: say smarter, but at least that makes a point and

492
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: gets people to think because you're pointing out the hypocrisy

493
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: and asking questions. So that's been a big change around,

494
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: you know, the landscape in general. The good news is

495
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: because of women and queer folks coming forward, and because

496
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: of Twitter and because of social media where agency was

497
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: given to folks who never had it before and having opinions,

498
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: real issues are being able to talk about. I don't

499
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: have to prove that sexual or cement and sexual assault

500
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: is happening anymore, you know, like like I can like

501
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: now just go in without explanation, because for years that

502
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: was it. Oh you're exaggerating. Oh that's not really true

503
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: that you know, And so to have a different kind

504
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: of baseline at least has been also kind of helpful

505
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: in the landscape of like what's been good and what's

506
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: been bad about it. Having people believe us for the

507
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: first time ever is huge, and I really I feel

508
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: like part of incorporating that into my comedy, it's just

509
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: massively important to honor those who never got a shake

510
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: and who got rate, you know, talk about cancel, who

511
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: got canceled, people who came forward when they were harassed

512
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: and destroyed by simply asking to not be harmed at

513
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: work or on a date. Right, So when I hear

514
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: about this crying of cancel culture, I'm just like, again,

515
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: would you please stop? Because you have been a bully

516
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: forever and it's been rewarded, and those who are victims

517
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: of your bulliness are the ones who actually we don't

518
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: know where they are. You know, anytime there's an actor

519
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: you liked from the seventies or eighties or nineties, You're like,

520
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: what happened to them? I love them? Probably they called

521
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: out some garbage human and we're never heard from again,

522
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: which is very upsetting because then you think of all

523
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: the stuff we've lost, all of this comedy we don't have,

524
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 1: and it does become like I have to check in

525
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: with myself a lot to not almost look at the

526
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: larger picture of that, because what gets me up every

527
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: day is the fact that I am able to do that.

528
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: And I'm sixty. I turned sixty in August, and all

529
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: of these avenues have allowed me to be as relevant

530
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: as I choose, and I feel like that's really cool.

531
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: And to be able to have abortion access front and

532
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: work in an environment where I could be the parents

533
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Speaker 1: of everyone, the grandparents of some, or as I say

534
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: to them, I kind of terminated all of you, so

535
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: you know, I'd like to keep them on their shoes.

536
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: But so, you know, it's like to be able to

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00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: elevate those voices and to sort of bring my age

538
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: and wisdom in sort of like this auntie role. And

539
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: it's been really cool and it's really nice to be

540
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: able to the show that we're doing feminist buzz kills.

541
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: Live in the Fall is going to be really fun

542
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: because it's it's I'm sixty, Um, there's an African American

543
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: woman who is in the early forties, and then a

544
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: South Asian woman who's in her early thirties, and so generally,

545
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: and then we'll have guests on who are like in

546
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: their twenties, right, so generationally and culturally coming to this

547
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: issue from really different experiences and having two out of

548
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: those three experiences not be the experience that is mine,

549
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: which everybody sort of knows mine, right, And so to

550
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: be able to take a back seat and and have

551
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: these voices uplifted, I feel really excited about because and

552
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: we're seeing so much of that now, which is really great.

553
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: You know when people are like, what are your favorite comics,

554
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: and I just think of like all these great people

555
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: and that it's not just a litany of white male

556
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: comedians anymore than list off right, you could just go

557
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: down the line of Joey L. Johnson, Jenny Yang, Helen Hall,

558
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: Jennie Asherrey, Sam j you know, like you can just

559
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: go on and on and on, and you're like, oh

560
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: my god, there's so many. It's so cool. I will

561
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: say I connected with Helen a little too much when

562
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: she was on stage, just like stop it, stop it

563
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: doing an hour special. Um, she's taking more special soon, yes,

564
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: through the Tribeca Film Festival, which I'm really, really really

565
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: excited about. I'm such a big fan. She's been also

566
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: out on the road with us a whole bunch and Jenny.

567
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: That's how I got introduced to her was because when

568
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: I came to the show and I was like, oh

569
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: my god, and then I saw our new girls like Helen.

570
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: I know that. Yeah, I think that's an amazing conversation

571
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: because yeah, like I said, I was introduced to your show,

572
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 1: your comedy show, specifically through what you're doing with abortion

573
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: and access front and it's amazing. And you have you

574
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: have such a way of obviously mentoring the new up

575
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: incoming because every time I've only gone to the show twice,

576
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: but you've always brought on newer people, younger kids. I

577
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: say kids. They're not kids. They're not twenty years younger

578
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: than me, So I say kids, and I hit that guys.

579
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: She's early thirties and early forties, so we hit those

580
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: gaps too, But younger generations that are doing comedy better

581
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna lie. For the longest time, I

582
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: couldn't watch stand up. Watching comedy shows always made me

583
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: cringe because I was afraid of what they're going to

584
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: say next. And then coming to this, I guess generation

585
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: this time frame, when you actually get to see good

586
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: comedy that's not at the expense of women are marginalized communities,

587
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: You're like, what, what is this new thing? And I

588
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: love seeing that, but also I love that you do

589
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: it with a purpose. You have the whole reason Abortion

590
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: Access Front is not about just the comedy, but again helping,

591
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: like you are going to these individual clinics and help assisting,

592
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: whether it's I think Chanelle went to actually put up

593
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: chairs and paint. At one point she was like, I

594
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: gotta go do this thing because I gotta go. And

595
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, you're actually going in and being

596
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: a part of that family in restoring some kind of

597
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: just being told thank you for what you're doing instead

598
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: of being screamed at for the first time in a

599
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: very long time, probably, how did you even come to

600
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: this point, How did this organization began? How did you

601
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: come to this point? So what happened was I was

602
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: finishing up my book, and I had come back to

603
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: Minnesota because the book is a series of essays about

604
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: my sort of life, how I found my voice, how

605
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: that voice landed on stage, and then how that voice

606
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: evolved from comedy just straight up comedy into having this

607
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: purpose and then where it led. Right. So I was

608
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: finishing up my book and I didn't know what I

609
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: was going to do next, and you know, I was

610
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: like trying to integrate another show, like what I want

611
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: to do. And it was right when all of those

612
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: abortion laws were happening right around. And you'll remember, Wendy

613
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: Davis is kind of the touch tone for everybody standing

614
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: there in Texas and filibustering. And what people didn't realize

615
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: was Texas was one of twenty seven states that had

616
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: that exact bill dumped on them. But the other twenty

617
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: states didn't have a Wendy Davis, so people didn't know.

618
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: And so I was like watching Texas and I was

619
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: tweeting about it, and then other clinics were kind of

620
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: tweeting at me, saying that our legislature just did this too,

621
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: and not and people were activists and people were from

622
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: around the country were like, this is going on all over.

623
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Speaker 1: So then I was like, oh my god, what am

624
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: I gonna do? So I was going to go back

625
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: to Brooklyn. So I had my two dogs and I

626
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: rented a van and I did comedy fundraisers to get

627
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: back to Brooklyn for these clinics. And I went to

628
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Speaker 1: go visit the clinics. And what happened was every clinic

629
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Speaker 1: I would go visit, the staff was literally shocked and said,

630
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: you know, in the saddest way, thank you for coming.

631
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: People don't come here to visit us. And I thought,

632
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: how are we to keep access to care? If you

633
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: feel so defeated and marginalized and mothered, you're not going

634
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: to keep staffs. So when I got back to New York,

635
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: I threw a giant dinner for comedians, writers, everybody I

636
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 1: knew that worked in my field, that I knew was feminist,

637
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: that I knew cared about issues. And I was like,

638
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: we all are here because we had access to birth

639
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: control and some of us had access to abortion. We

640
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: need to get out there and show people love. And

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00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: the other thing that I had found out from the

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Speaker 1: clinics was if you provide abortion, especially in areas that

643
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Speaker 1: are hostile towards it. You can't get someone to mow

644
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Speaker 1: your mount paint your hallways, fix your roof, do anything

645
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Speaker 1: because people will boycott those companies. So we talked and

646
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Speaker 1: we decided we were going to create a nonprofit that

647
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: made videos like Funnier Die videos that would expose the issues,

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Speaker 1: and then we were going to kind of do this

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Speaker 1: USO cross with Habitats for Humanity and travel around the

650
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Speaker 1: country do comedy shows that we're comedy variety shows, so

651
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Speaker 1: you'll have some comedy, you'll have a conversation with the

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Speaker 1: activists in the community and the clinic, and then you'll

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Speaker 1: have maybe a musician also, so that our audiences could

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Speaker 1: learn what's at stake, how they could help, and sign

655
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Speaker 1: up with the local folks on the ground and then

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Speaker 1: carry on the work. You know, we have people tabling,

657
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 1: so you could watch the show here from the people

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00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: go sign up right down at the table, and then

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00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: we go to the clinics and we will find know

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Speaker 1: what they need, so we will do the gardening, We

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Speaker 1: will mow their lawn, will do that, and when we

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Speaker 1: know what they need, will bring that up in the show.

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Speaker 1: So it'll be like we'll do a little work ahead

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Speaker 1: of time, right, and so then what's cool. I'll never forget.

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Speaker 1: I was in Oklahoma City and we were just talking

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Speaker 1: about what they needed in Oklahoma City, and this guy

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Speaker 1: raises his hand and he's like, you're telling me the

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Speaker 1: activism is I sign up and say I'll be your

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Speaker 1: landscaping company, you pay me, and I'm an activist. And

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00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, because the act of parking your

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Speaker 1: van in front of that clinic saying you support these

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Speaker 1: people is an act of defiance and an act of support.

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Speaker 1: And so people really when they start to hear that,

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Speaker 1: and when we can go to every city and and

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Speaker 1: and know in advance what they're having a hard time

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Speaker 1: getting services for and put it out to the audience,

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Speaker 1: we're always getting people to sign up and say I'm

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Speaker 1: happy to be that person. But people don't know. And

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Speaker 1: part of I think what's so important when you're looking

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Speaker 1: at where you want to be helpful or how you

681
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: want to do your activism is making sure you're not

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Speaker 1: replicating work. You know, is their organizations already doing this

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Speaker 1: and being better at it. And usually there are and

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Speaker 1: they're and they're usually bipop led organizations that like white

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Speaker 1: people don't know about so they're gonna start a thing, so,

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Speaker 1: you know, elevating the organization is already doing it on

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Speaker 1: the ground, but nobody was doing the work of making

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Speaker 1: sure that the clinics and that the activists on the ground,

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Speaker 1: we're getting the support that they needed because they're great,

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Speaker 1: they're doing the work, but they always need Everybody always

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Speaker 1: needs a little pr right, everybody always needs a little

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Speaker 1: platform to talk about how great they are. And for

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Speaker 1: us to be able to gather folks who like our

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Speaker 1: comedy and do that and then explain to them what's

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Speaker 1: at stake felt like a really good lane that I

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Speaker 1: could be in that there and and carve out when

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Speaker 1: there wasn't a lane before. So that part of it is,

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00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: so we're warning and during COVID it was really hard

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Speaker 1: because we couldn't get on the road and do that.

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Speaker 1: So we were doing zoom conversations and we were and

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Speaker 1: and and sort of doing it sort of virtually. And

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Speaker 1: then starting this big mutual aid program so that people

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Speaker 1: could really take care of folks, and then training the

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Speaker 1: folks who were already on the ground how to use

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Speaker 1: humor to just marginalize and shame all those protesters out

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Speaker 1: there too, So that was part of our thing as well,

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Speaker 1: So hoping to get back out on the road in

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Speaker 1: with the organization. But I myself, I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: out doing some stand up gigs starting in late summer

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Speaker 1: and into the fall as well. So hopefully I'll get

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Speaker 1: to Atlanta. I'm trying to because I want to Atlanta, Atlanta, Asheville,

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Speaker 1: Raleigh run and so um that's kind of what I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping to get for hopefully in the late fowlish or

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Speaker 1: early winter. So I'll be seeing you so excited. I

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Speaker 1: love that so much because I think that is something

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Speaker 1: people struggle with, is not necessarily under standing the needs

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Speaker 1: and where they can help and what activism can look like.

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Speaker 1: So I think that is fantastic. As far as I

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Speaker 1: feel like this conversation is upsetting because it's like everything

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Speaker 1: with Rob Wade, it's just is always a fight. It's

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Speaker 1: always a battle, never ends. Are there things that we

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Speaker 1: should be looking out for that are going on right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean one thing that I would say is part

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Speaker 1: of the reason that we got here is because we

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Speaker 1: we talked so much about we don't look at things

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Speaker 1: to stop them early in their in their situations, right

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Speaker 1: like the maddening people who are like both candidates are

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Speaker 1: the same or above. Elections don't matter. It's like we

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Speaker 1: with Donald Trump, we build up a lower court and

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court hostile towards abortion rights, were rights, you know,

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Speaker 1: all the things that actually expand humanities, valuing humans, and

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Speaker 1: so you know, and I think a lot of folks

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Speaker 1: don't realize that when we talk about these abortion laws.

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Speaker 1: The way that they happen is that big giant like

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Speaker 1: organizations that are in Washington, d c. Anti abortion organizations,

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Speaker 1: they write legislation and then they hand it over to

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Speaker 1: legislatures that are hustle to abortion. They get it through

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Speaker 1: that place, and they specifically target states that have a

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Speaker 1: legislatures that will pass it and be that are located

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Speaker 1: in a lower court district so that if it gets challenge,

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Speaker 1: it can go to the lower court and get to

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. Right. So, the one thing that we

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Speaker 1: desperately need to do is figure out who is in

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Speaker 1: our state senates and our state legislatures and work to

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Speaker 1: get them out so that these laws aren't being proposed

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Speaker 1: to begin with. That's one thing, because then it's the

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Speaker 1: same people proposing the anti LGBTQ laws, the voter suppression laws,

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Speaker 1: Gunnen laws, like, it's all the same people, right, there's

749
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: just a cabal. There's intersectional hatred going on. That's really proble.

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Speaker 1: So having said that, you know, if a law gets

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Speaker 1: passed in Kentucky and makes it all the way to

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, that you don't live in Kentucky, but

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're reproductive, right's gonna effective forever.

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Speaker 1: So what's happening is Mississippi passed a law of fifteen

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Speaker 1: week abortion band Roe v. Wade states that abortion is

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Speaker 1: legal in all fifty states up to twenty four weeks

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Speaker 1: or the viability of the fetus. Everybody's entitled to that

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Speaker 1: abortion is legal in all fifty states right now. A

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Speaker 1: lot of these laws that we've seen recently have challenged

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Speaker 1: access to abortion, but haven't directly challenged that tenant of

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Speaker 1: roeby Wade. So we've seen things like you need to

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Speaker 1: be have admitting privileges to a hospital if you're going

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Speaker 1: to perform abortions, or twenty for our waiting periods. Those

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Speaker 1: are curbing access, but not overturning Roe v. Wade, this

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Speaker 1: particular Mississippi law, And this is what's really interesting about

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Speaker 1: it is that normally the Supreme Court will take up

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Speaker 1: a case when the lower courts have been divided or

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Speaker 1: conflicted on whether or not the law is unconstitutional. In

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Speaker 1: this case, to lower courts, and conservative lower courts have

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Speaker 1: said a fifteen week ban is unconstitutional because Rob Wade

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Speaker 1: says twenty four weeks, and this is fifteen weeks. Two

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Speaker 1: times the state of Mississippi said nope, we're still going

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Speaker 1: to try to go anyway, and they petition the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court directly, and the Supreme Court, in an unprecedented move,

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Speaker 1: took a case that every court agree was unconstitutional, took

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Speaker 1: it to hear it anyway, which should scare folks. So

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Speaker 1: they're gonna hear it in the fall. If the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court rules that it is constitutional for you to block

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Speaker 1: abortion after fifteen weeks, that means Roe w Wade has

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Speaker 1: been overturned. And there are eleven states that right now

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Speaker 1: have in place something that's called a trigger, and what

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Speaker 1: that means is within twenty four hours, eleven states will

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Speaker 1: outright ban abortion in all cases. This my fear is

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Speaker 1: that because the Supreme Court has taken on this case,

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Speaker 1: it's a signal to other states who are hostile to

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Speaker 1: abortion who have not yet put in trigger bands yet

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Speaker 1: to do so, and so we could wind up with

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Speaker 1: a very real possibility that Roe v. Wade will end

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Speaker 1: as we know it. So that's what's happening right now.

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Speaker 1: We will be which I'm excited about, will be going

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Speaker 1: to d C, will be working as hard as we

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Speaker 1: can to support the activists in Mississippi and the activists

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Speaker 1: around it and raising awareness. Our Twitter feed Abortion Front

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00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: is a really good hub of information. If you're not

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Speaker 1: getting information around the laws and everything, we are really

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Speaker 1: good about doing that and really putting stuff up there

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Speaker 1: and driving you to places where you can read more

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Speaker 1: the people who are working locally on the ground, so

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Speaker 1: that if you see something in your upset and you

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Speaker 1: want to help, you're not just making a blanket donation

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00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: to X large organization. You will be able to tell

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Speaker 1: you in Kentucky, here's the place that you might want

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Speaker 1: to give. You know, we we oftentimes I love Planned

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00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: parenthood They're incredible, but at oftentimes there's not planned parenthoods

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Speaker 1: in a state that is being affected, and so you

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Speaker 1: want to know who the clinic is, who the activists are,

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. That's amazing. Yeah, speaking of abortion actions

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Speaker 1: front Twitter, just recently, I've noticed this whole conversation about

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Speaker 1: the fact that our current administration, who is technically pro choice,

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Speaker 1: technically still has a hard time using the word abortion.

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Speaker 1: I know that that was a big conversation to the

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Speaker 1: point that not only are you know, your side, as

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Speaker 1: well as other actives are like hey, abortion, like trying

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Speaker 1: to spill it up like it's not a bad word.

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Speaker 1: I think it's such a weird idea, especially today, this

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Speaker 1: day and age, why it's so hard to understand just

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Speaker 1: normalizing that term actually helps part of this fight. Can

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Speaker 1: you talk on that a little bit? Yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: would say it's the single most important thing that we

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Speaker 1: can do to get us on a path of reproductive equality,

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Speaker 1: because we for so long have been overrun with the

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Speaker 1: anti abortion playbook, even to the point where we've allowed

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Speaker 1: themselves to refer to themselves as pro life when they're

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Speaker 1: the ones who are not considering the life of someone

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Speaker 1: who's pregnant, blowing up abortion clinics, threatening doctors. There's nothing

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Speaker 1: pro life about denying somebody else life saving healthcare. So

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Speaker 1: you know, we've even seated that right, We've seated this

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Speaker 1: moral ground where we feel like we need to have

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Speaker 1: caveats when we defend it, we have to say, well,

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Speaker 1: nobody's pro abortion. I actually am. I will actually say

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Speaker 1: that I'm pro abortion because I feel like if somebody

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Speaker 1: needs to make that choice, it is not my decision

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Speaker 1: or it is not my right to judge them for

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Speaker 1: why they're making it. If they've decided they want to

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Speaker 1: do that, I believe them, and they're making a moral,

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Speaker 1: ethical choice for themselves. And so unless we get to

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Speaker 1: a point where we can say it, and we can

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Speaker 1: say it with with dignity and respect and giving it

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Speaker 1: it's it's moral claim, we can't defend it. How can

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Speaker 1: you defend something you can't say why is it? And

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Speaker 1: and really asking folks the question, why is it that

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Speaker 1: you have to say I'm pro choice and not abortion.

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00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm for abortion, but only in the in the cases

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Speaker 1: of rape and incests, sort of setting up this narrative

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Speaker 1: that there's good abortions and there's bad abortions. Right, there's

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Speaker 1: no good abad abortion. There's only the abortion that you need.

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Speaker 1: And we really need to be actively supporting when someone

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Speaker 1: says they need that, because I'm unclear of the of

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Speaker 1: how the hypocrites get away with being anti birth control,

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Speaker 1: anti abortion. It's like, what what what world of abstinence

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Speaker 1: and unicorns are you living in? That? You know happened

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Speaker 1: forever instance, forever, and abortions have happened forever since forever,

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Speaker 1: you know, since the history of we've realized how fun

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Speaker 1: sex is and that it's free, Like those are giant

855
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: things in the world. That means it's gonna keep happening.

856
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: It's the most fun you can have, and it also

857
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: costs nothing, so we should probably make sure people are

858
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: having it safely and without shame and stigma. That's all right, Yes,

859
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: well you could talk forever because I'm just like feeling

860
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: rage and all these like interconnected issues built up in

861
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: me where it's like, oh, you men want to have

862
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: sex with women and they think it's all right, but

863
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: they can't have birth control and they can't have abortions,

864
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: and it's just like all of this punishment and stigma

865
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: and weirdness around women and controlling their bodies and female

866
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: sexual pleasure. And also like I love how conservatives are

867
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: all you know, I want my individual rights, don't tread

868
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: on me, but but also you can tread on earth

869
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: though I know, and also just the patriarchal set up

870
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: of the value of women in society, and that is

871
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: creating these hyper sexualized beings and giving them worth and

872
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: then and then when they act on that, when we

873
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: act on it patriarchy. You know, there is nothing better

874
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: than when you really just like shed you sloth your

875
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: skin of any interest in the male gaze. It is

876
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: the most freeing thing in the world. You know. Forever,

877
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: I never realized why women in their fifties started becoming

878
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: so powerful and why they were marginalized at the same time.

879
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: And it's because they do not give a flying f

880
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: about what people think, only what they desire and what

881
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 1: they want for the greater good, and in turn, that

882
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: terrifies the white supremacy power structure. So you have to

883
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: marginalize the older women because they have a ton of power.

884
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: So when you watch that convergence and you realize that's

885
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: the plan, it only makes you even more emboldened. And

886
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: that's kind of a good feeling. So for you young

887
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: uns out there, and then I'm talking to the two

888
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: of you know, understand that you're coming into your power

889
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: profoundly and it's really rewarding. I love that that's awesome. Yes,

890
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: So could you talk about the Hide Act because I

891
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 1: know you all recently did a video explaining it. Yeah,

892
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: so it's um are forty seven years ever since, you know,

893
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: like Robe Wade was passed in nineteen and three years later,

894
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: a Congressman from Illinois named Henry Hyde, who was by

895
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: the way while get to Assistory a minute, wanted to

896
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: curb abortion and ban abortion any way he could. And

897
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: he actually said in a quote, I would like to

898
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: ban tax dollars from paying for abortions. I'd like to

899
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 1: ban all abortions. And since I can't stop rich women

900
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: from having abortions, I'm going to punish poor women from

901
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: having abortion. Actually said this outlaud, not even saying the

902
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: quiet part aloud, saying the loud part outlaud. So he

903
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: enacted something called a High Amendment, which is attached to

904
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: the annual budget bill every year. It has for forty

905
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: seven years. And what it says is federal tax dollars

906
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: will not fund abortion in any way, shape or form.

907
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: And that means for people who get their health care

908
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: from Medicaid, that means folks who work for the government,

909
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: that means folks who are in the military can't access

910
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: their own health care for abortions. It's caused an incredible

911
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: financial rich as you can imagine, if somebody is seeking

912
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: abortion is either low income, uses Medicaid or is working

913
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 1: for the federal government. So and it's just racist, it's

914
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: just garbage, it's racist, it's classes, it's everything. For forty

915
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: seven years, every president, even the ones you love, have

916
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: the high Amendment has ended up in the budget and

917
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: they have just let it be there. Now, oddly, this

918
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: is the first time this year Joe Biden, the lukewarm

919
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: pro choice, won't say abortion person left Hide out of

920
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: the budget. So we will see if we can literally

921
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: end hide. Because what that would mean is low income

922
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: folks seeking abortion care wouldn't struggle to find the funds

923
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: to access care. They wouldn't have to wait as long.

924
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: Oftentimes people have to cross several state lines. They are

925
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: trying to raise the funds to get their care, so

926
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: they end up further in their pregnancy and that abortion

927
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: costs even more money. It's a reproductive emancipation for black

928
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: and brown folks and for low income folks. And I

929
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: just feel like it would be really incredible if we

930
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: and there's a great short film. It just came out

931
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: and it's called Abortion Helpline. This is Least. It's a

932
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: short film that came out in one early that follows

933
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: an abortion fund, which there's a volunteer lad fund there

934
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: all over the country that folks can call an access

935
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: to see if they can get funds to help them.

936
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: And it shows the effects of the High Amendment, explains

937
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: the High Amendment and really shows how the Heighth amentment

938
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: really affects people at a fourteen minutes or film, but

939
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 1: it is devastating and it's really really it's it's it's

940
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: a it's a really good explainer to learn about hide.

941
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: So with any hope at all, we've made progress and

942
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: through our razor thin Congress, I don't know if we

943
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: can get it in the Senate, but it would be

944
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 1: really nice to have a budget that did not have

945
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: reproductive oppression in it, right, um, you know? Or go

946
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: to All above All. They're a really great nonprofit that

947
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: has been leading the charge on ending the High Amendment.

948
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: They have been so great, So All above All dot

949
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: org and you can find out how you can fight

950
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: back and how you can be helpful there. So yeah,

951
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: so honestly, even though I had been a part of

952
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: social work, so that's that was my career before I

953
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: started podcasting, as well as having friends who we are

954
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: all very feminis forward. I actually didn't know much about

955
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: the Hydeman until I came to your first show and

956
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: the video is beautiful. I was like, Oh my god,

957
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: what is happening and this is what we're talking about.

958
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: I never really knew what it was or how it

959
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: really affected our community and especially yes marginalized communities. How

960
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: it's really going after poor people on top of the

961
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: fact that they're not assisting when they do have kids,

962
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: and oftentimes I would end up working with those kids

963
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: and not having any funds to help them access medical

964
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: help or mental health help or any of that stuff.

965
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: And that's kind of that big conversation of what is

966
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: this really about? What is honestly It's like, it's kind

967
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: of about punishing people who don't have money, people of

968
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: color in general, and just are not even able to

969
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: understand how to access any kind of help. Because, let's

970
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: be honest, even if the heidem minent was to be dismissed,

971
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: the likelihood of all of the loopholes that each state

972
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: could find, I could just imagine Georgia and trying to

973
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 1: access those funds will be incredibly difficult. Let's talk about

974
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: the fact that Kemp is already holding out money that

975
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: is being offered us because he doesn't want any help

976
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: from federal government and want to blame the carent administration

977
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: and say that we didn't get help when there's millions

978
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: of dollars on the table that he refuses to take.

979
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: So I'm already upset and angry about what's happening here,

980
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: and I got to double down on their anger. Part

981
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: of the other thing that's happening right now. You know,

982
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that we don't know because

983
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: we're not told, and it's really massively pressing. But you know,

984
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: throughout the country there are religiously set up fake abortion

985
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: clinics that look like a regular clinic, advertised like a

986
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: regular clinic, and they're not actually clinics. They're actually places

987
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: that are designed to lure folks in and convince them

988
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: not to have abortions, and make promises and lie to patients.

989
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: And they're not run by doctors. There's people who literally

990
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: were lab codes who are not doctors, who will lie

991
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: to you about abortion, lie to you about birth control,

992
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: lie to you about primorial sex, lie to you about everything.

993
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: Just this week we found out that in states are

994
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: diverting TANNIS funds, that's that's welfare for those I don't know,

995
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: welfare funds with SAM funds to fund these fake clinics,

996
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: So taking away the help for low income families and

997
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: putting that funds to fake clinics that are trying to

998
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: convince people not to have abortions and have kids, while

999
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: busufully telling them that there's all these government programs that

1000
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: will help them if they decide to have their kid.

1001
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: But those government programs, as they speak, are being cut

1002
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: to fund their lives. So walk with me to this

1003
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: crazy circle. And it's just another level of this of

1004
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: this game of oppression where if you keep poor people

1005
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: poor and vulnerable, they'll never have agencies, will never understand

1006
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: they have agency. And again what survives Lapa, andre Arch

1007
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: and White Sprama say right absolutely, and that again shows

1008
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: why it is a pro birth movement. End the story.

1009
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: We actually did have someone who researched the Pregnancy Crisis

1010
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: Center come in and talk to us about what was

1011
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: happening around the country and the level. But the fact

1012
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: that they're looking like nurses or professionals, but in actuality

1013
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: they probably just came in from the church and was

1014
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: told to be a good citizen by making these people

1015
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: have babies and not giving them an absolute choice, any

1016
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: kind of choice. But yeah, Actually, as a worker for

1017
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: the government in the state of Georgia, I did not

1018
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: know what these pregnancy crisis centers were, and I really

1019
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: thought they were helping give young girls a choice, and

1020
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: realizing later, oh my god, I sent them to a

1021
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: really fake and I feel horrible, like hypocritical state of like, oh,

1022
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know that the pregnancy crisis center was this. Now,

1023
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. For the people who are like,

1024
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,439
Speaker 1: oh I need car seats, I was like, yeah, go there,

1025
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: but half sometimes they couldn't even access that. They just

1026
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: got templets about how you apply for things, which still

1027
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: like what is the point, yes, of anything that you're doing. Yeah,

1028
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: and also like folks they understand just for for like

1029
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: sort of perspective on it. There are actually around seven

1030
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: eighty legitimate clinics that provide comprehensive care, including abortion. There

1031
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: is close to four thousand of these fake clinics. So

1032
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: you're and and owning the narrative on Google and that

1033
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, when you Google looking for an abortion, oftentimes

1034
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: they have rigged the s c O, which is, you know,

1035
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: the algorithm to have them pop up first. And so

1036
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: when you are looking for your abortion and you see

1037
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: an add the pops up that says pregnant need help, free,

1038
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: free tests, choices, options, You're going to go there, and

1039
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: they don't advertise. And this is the part where where

1040
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: we have done our advocacy. We have created an entire

1041
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: website called Exposed Fake Clinics dot com um where you

1042
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: can go learn about the insidious nature of them and

1043
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: how you can fight back, like giving them bad reviews,

1044
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: you know things like that where you can really be

1045
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: helpful in doing that. But it's um, it's really scary

1046
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: to think that folks go there. And the thing that

1047
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say was they hide the fact

1048
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: that that's who they are. And our whole issue is

1049
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: if you are an anti abortion pregnancy center that is

1050
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: trying to get people to keep their pregnancies, then say

1051
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: that's who you are. Say that's who you are, but

1052
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: you don't you hide it from people. And the interesting

1053
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: thing is a case when all the way to the

1054
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: Supreme Court challenging the efficacy of these fake clinics. And

1055
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: here's the part that I'd like everybody to just buckle up,

1056
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: because I'm about to tell you something that's gonna make

1057
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: your real mad. The Supreme Court ruled that if you're

1058
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: a fake clinic and you're not providing actual care, you,

1059
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: under the First Amendment, get to pretend you're a doctor

1060
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: as long as you're not administering medicine. What yes, Yes

1061
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: rule that it's constitutional to set up a kind of

1062
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: look alike place and put on a lab coat and

1063
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: say sort of some vaguely medically sounding things. You're allowed

1064
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: to lie to people under the First Amendment as long

1065
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: as you're not providing the care. That kid I forgot

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Speaker 1: his name, who posed for a doctor forever, shouldn't he

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Speaker 1: been cleared because he didn't take I feel like he

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Speaker 1: should be often he was federally charged. He kind of

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Speaker 1: came around and pretended like he new things and then

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Speaker 1: sit a nursing So I don't understand. Oh lord, I

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Speaker 1: need I feel when I come on to podcast that

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Speaker 1: I just like, like you know, saw on or just

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Speaker 1: like bring all the doom. I'm just like, oh that

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Speaker 1: Liz Winston here she comes. She's just gonna bum me no.

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing is, like we've talked about this before,

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Speaker 1: how we need to start really embracing anger as women

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Speaker 1: and marginalized people, because this is what it looks like.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't happen until we get firing ready to go.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't happen until passion is inflamed and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is what this is about. So no, we love it.

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Speaker 1: This is what we live for, putting a fire. And

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Speaker 1: someone asks, and I also just want to remind folks that, like,

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Speaker 1: that's what I love about our organization so much. Is

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Speaker 1: so often when it gets to the point where the

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Speaker 1: news is reporting on it, it's too far down the

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Speaker 1: line for us to do anything about it. So when

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Speaker 1: we follow our social media or sign up for our

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Speaker 1: mailing list, we get on it early because we're in

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Speaker 1: constant conversation with the activists on the ground and what

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Speaker 1: they're doing. So when they're like X state is proposing

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Speaker 1: this thing, we're like on top of it immediately so

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Speaker 1: that we can tell folks in the aisle, like, shut

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Speaker 1: this garbage down, like and here's how you can do it.

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Speaker 1: And so that's that's the thing that is really I

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Speaker 1: think helpful. Since the media doesn't help us, we have

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Speaker 1: to be the people who are reporting on the media.

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Speaker 1: Right absolutely us a lot. We're talking a lot. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, I've seen a few of your interviews where

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Speaker 1: you kind of talk about the fact that, especially with

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Speaker 1: the last administration in the last year, just everything being dark,

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Speaker 1: so dark. I think you said that you needed to

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Speaker 1: be able to shed light and talk about it and

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01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: bring it about to the world and talk about it

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Speaker 1: to everyone so we do acknowledge what's going on, don't

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Speaker 1: just move on in our pretty little lives. And we

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Speaker 1: sort of started maybe seeing some light. There's a few

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Speaker 1: things that helped. You know, Trump is out. I don't

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01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: even like saying his name. I don't want to hear

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Speaker 1: about him. I just realsh I can forget him. But

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna be forgotten, as Georgia has plainly shown

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Speaker 1: in their recent GOP conference and saying they're gonna align

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Speaker 1: behind his ideology. Still. But you know, we're in the

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Speaker 1: current new administration, we're starting to kind of come out

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Speaker 1: of COVID. I have now come out of my house, uh,

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Speaker 1: since being fully vaccinated. Still not trusting people, though still

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Speaker 1: not trusting people, but with that and it's slowly changing,

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Speaker 1: hopefully for the better. With everything else outside of me

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Speaker 1: us being vacts, you know, living that vacts life. What

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Speaker 1: else seems like with everything else that seems like it's

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Speaker 1: going to hell right now? What are you trying to

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Speaker 1: push forward? How are you coming out? Because I see

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Speaker 1: you're ready. You're ready, like you were ready last year

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Speaker 1: when you were like, I have to put on a show.

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Speaker 1: I don't get what everybody else is doing. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: do a social distance in the nineteen degree weather. We're

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Speaker 1: doing it, So you're ready. I see it's coming forward.

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Speaker 1: So there's a couple of things coming forward that I'm

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Speaker 1: really excited about, and that is getting people back to events,

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Speaker 1: which is really cool. So one thing that I'm really

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Speaker 1: psyched about is on July nineteen, the original cast of

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Speaker 1: The Daily Show and met Elizbeisberg and who is my

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Speaker 1: co creator, are getting together to do a conversation around

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Speaker 1: the origins of The Daily Show, the early days, how

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Speaker 1: it came to be. It's really gonna be fun because

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Speaker 1: it's the first time we've all gotten together and we're

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Speaker 1: the only folks who really know, like those early days,

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Speaker 1: how we came up with the idea, all the pitfalls

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Speaker 1: we had doing this show with no budget and the

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01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: scrappy correspondence who actually created help you know, the entire genre.

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Speaker 1: So that's gonna be really fun. And it's a fundraise

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Speaker 1: of for Abortion Access Front, so I highly that'll be

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Speaker 1: on rush Ticks and that's really cool, and if you

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01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: sign up for our mailing list you'll get all the

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01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: information about that. That's gonna be really fun. We are

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01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: going out on the road to um confront some bad

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01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: guy eyes and that's like a secret that we can't

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01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: tell you right now, but we can tell you soon.

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Speaker 1: But the bad guys are having their annual convention of

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Speaker 1: anti abortion bad guys, and we have some really cool

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Speaker 1: counter protesting activism plans around that. That's happening in June.

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Speaker 1: One of the things we wanted to do is not

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Speaker 1: lump all anti abortion activists into the same brush, because

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Speaker 1: they come from different factions, they're inspired by different weird

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Speaker 1: religious beliefs. So we've created a website called Hypocrites Unmasked

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Speaker 1: where we break up and really explain the different factions

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Speaker 1: of the anti abortion movement, their tactics sort of where

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Speaker 1: they're located and who their leadership are. One thing that's

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Speaker 1: been really interesting is and we're continuing to develop, so

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Speaker 1: it kind of falls into your category. But what's next

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Speaker 1: is since we've been on the road for all these

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Speaker 1: years meeting all these local activists, we've also heard from

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Speaker 1: them who their local anti abortion extremists are. And we

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01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: created a database of everything that everybody has told us

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Speaker 1: in their findings, and we have found cross connection that

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Speaker 1: some anti abortion activists are working together across state platforms.

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Speaker 1: And in the course of forming this database learning this information,

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Speaker 1: we started some fake secret accounts on Facebook. We've infiltrated

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Speaker 1: a little bit watching them, and when the insurrection happened

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Speaker 1: in January, we were able to identify thirty people from

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Speaker 1: the anti abortion movement in the insurrection and report them

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Speaker 1: to the FBI. So that's an ongoing secret like thing

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Speaker 1: that we've got going on. But we just also had

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Speaker 1: really cool events coming up to in the fall. We

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Speaker 1: have an event called do re Me Too, which is

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Speaker 1: the third year of us doing it, where we get

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Speaker 1: the most righteous performers who sing reimagine sexist songs just

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Speaker 1: to let folks know, like we live in a culture

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Speaker 1: that defines women so profoundly awfully in our pop culture,

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Speaker 1: and often we enable it by singing along and it's

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Speaker 1: really great. And so you know, we have Sandra Bernhardt,

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Speaker 1: we have now in from to Get Down, Stay Down.

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Speaker 1: We have Amanda Palmer. We've got some really good folks

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Speaker 1: who have signed up already to be at it. We're

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01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: announcing our line up in July. So if you want

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01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: to know more about that show, that's gonna be a

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01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,759
Speaker 1: virtual show too, so you can watch it from anywhere.

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Speaker 1: People are recording their own music videos. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a riot. And then we're gonna just continue with our

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Speaker 1: outreach for mutual aid. We're gonna be exposing fake clinics,

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Speaker 1: so and we have these exposed fake clinics events that

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Speaker 1: are really fun and talking about these fake abortion clinics

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Speaker 1: that we're talking about. There's a whole lot in the

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Speaker 1: pipeline we have going on. I'm gonna be touring personally,

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Speaker 1: which will be really really fun. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: feel like if you want to find out more, the

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Speaker 1: best thing to do is to sign up for our

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Speaker 1: mailing list, the Abortion Access Front. If you go to

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Speaker 1: a a front dot org and sign up for our

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Speaker 1: mailing list. You'll get all the updates on the cool stuff.

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Speaker 1: And we don't send out a bunch of just boring emails,

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Speaker 1: um that they're like donate to us. We send you

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01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: out emails that give you information, stuff to do, ways

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01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 1: that you can take action. They're really helpful emails that

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01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,959
Speaker 1: are just about send us money or sign a petition.

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01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: It's like get involved the present, join our community, because

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01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: we really want to build community through our activism. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's exciting. Actually, right before COVID, I had Caroline and

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Speaker 1: I the one from end lady like who introduced me.

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Speaker 1: We're planning to do uh some volunteer work with abortion clinics,

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01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: mean escorts are such, and then everything shut down. We're like, nope, nope,

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Speaker 1: hiding the way, but I'm gonna have to find well,

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Speaker 1: I am already subscribed to the newsletter, duh, so I'm

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Speaker 1: definitely gonna keep up with that. Yes, and this has

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Speaker 1: been an absolute pleasure and delight live much. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for having me and blatting with me. Oh

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Speaker 1: we could talk forever, yes, yes, um, and we'll definitely

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Speaker 1: check you out when you're in Atlanta. Any other things

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Speaker 1: you want to plug before we wrap up here, Where

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Speaker 1: can the listeners find you? Um, listeners can find me.

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Speaker 1: I'm on all the social platforms at Liz Winstead and

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Speaker 1: I spell my name with two z's, so you can

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Speaker 1: find me there, and you can find me just out

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Speaker 1: and about. You know, I'm sometimes on MSNBC show My

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Speaker 1: Mug around Town, but mostly you know, just find me

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Speaker 1: onto all the socials and then you'll find me on

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Speaker 1: the other places as well. But I would also say

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Speaker 1: subscribe to our YouTube channel now so that you can

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Speaker 1: get informed on our show launches, because you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: want to miss this show. It's gonna be just a

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Speaker 1: weekly show full of just bad comedy and information and

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Speaker 1: like just like feminist talk and righteousness that you don't

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Speaker 1: want to miss. So sign up subscribe on YouTube abortion

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Speaker 1: access prompt doing it? Yes, yes, definitely do that, listeners.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again for being with us, Liz Oh, thank you

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Speaker 1: such a pleasure. It's been amazing. Yes, and if you

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Speaker 1: would like to find us listeners, you can. You can

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Speaker 1: email us at stuff id your Mom stuff at ihart

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Speaker 1: me dot com. You can find us on Twitter and

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Speaker 1: Mom's a podcast or on Instagram and stuff I Never

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Speaker 1: Told You thinks it's always are. Super producer Christina, thank you,

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01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 1: Thanks to you for listening stuff One Never Told You

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