1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the official forty Niners You've Got Male 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Podcast sponsored by Nancy. I am joined with forty Niners 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: insider at NBC Sports Bay Area, a three time Pro 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: Football Writers of America Award winner, Matt Mayoko. Matt, I 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: found out that fact because I had to find you 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: on Wikipedia. And that's how I feel like, you know 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: you've made it. When you have a Wikipedia page, Well, 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: then I've made it. That is that's great to hear. 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: I think all the information on there is factual. I 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: don't know if it's all up to date, but Kiana, 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: thank you very much for having me on your podcast, 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: the You've Got Male Podcast, And hopefully at the end 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: of this month and into August, we'll be seeing each 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: other out there on the practice field from a safe 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: distance of course, of course we'll be staying six feet away, um, 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: and and we'll talk a little bit about training camp 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: and the potential having a training campbell later on this 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: month in just a bit. But I mean, it's crazy 19 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: when I think about it. I think the last time 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: that you and I actually saw each other was the 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: day about a couple of days after the Super Bowl 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: with those exit interviews and what was that the last 23 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: time that that we've seen each other. I think so, 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: I believe so. Yeah. Even on the zoom calls at 25 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: put together with draft prospects and the head coach and 26 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of players, we didn't see each other. 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: We only saw the players or John Lynch or Kyle Shanahan, 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: and they didn't see us. So I think that is 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: the last time I saw you. It was locker clean 30 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: out day a couple of days after the Super Bowl, 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: and you know, some guys that we saw then are 32 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: no longer around. But by and large, it is a 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: it'll be a very recognizable team that is put out 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: there this season. And because what is it would be 35 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: like eighteen of their twenty two starters are back. I 36 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: think you're only looking at Deforce Buckner, which was a 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: shocker right on the first day of free agency the 38 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: new league year, Joe Staley not so much of a shocker, 39 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: um My person and Emmanuel Sanders. So those are the 40 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: only four starters basically from last season who won't be back. 41 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: So I mean you would on paper anyway. I know 42 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: people like to talk about the Super Bowl hangover and 43 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: all that, but on paper, I think the forty Hours 44 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: are in very, very good shape to make a run 45 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: back to the super Bowl in this coming season. I 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: love that you said that you're already answering fan questions 47 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: that we were going to get to. You're already on 48 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: top of it. But what year is this now for you? 49 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: Covering the forty Niners? Six six years they've flown by. 50 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: I still feel like I'm the new kid on the block. Yes, 51 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: the first year where I did it full time, year round, 52 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: and so I've been doing it pretty much NonStop since then. 53 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: I feel like you're the perfect person to answer this. 54 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: How different do you think this year has been for you, and, 55 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: let's say, covering this team when you're looking at the 56 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: effects of this pandemic we're in and coming off of 57 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: that tough Super Bowl loss? How has this offseason in 58 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: particular for you being a forty Niners insider and covering 59 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: this team for this amount of time, how has it 60 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: been for you? You don't It hasn't been too much 61 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: different than a normal year. The only difference up to 62 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: this point has been there haven't been any offseason workouts 63 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: to cover. But news still happens. Free agencies still happened. 64 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: I mentioned the trade of Force Buckner. Um, you know, 65 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: Joe Steele's retirement, the free agent movings and shakings, the draft. Um, 66 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: we did go to the combine, I think, and we 67 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: we went to the combine, So that's when we saw 68 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: each other each other. I'm trying to think these years 69 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: do kind of spill together, but yes, I do. We 70 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: went to the Combine and then it was basically a 71 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: week after the Combine when you know, the whole country, 72 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: the whole globe shut down. So up to that point, 73 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: the only thing the only places that I did not 74 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: go this offseason that I would normally go would be 75 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: to Santa Clara for some practices and also the NFL 76 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: owners meetings. And I forget if this year was going 77 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: to be Arizona or Florida. I think it was Florida, Florida, 78 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: Florida this year. Yeah, so that really has been the 79 00:04:54,560 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: only change. Um. Yeah, I'm still producing content, it's still 80 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: writing stories, still doing what we're doing. Zoom. I didn't 81 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: know anything about Zoom until about four months ago. I 82 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: think we were all introduced to Zoom earlier this year. 83 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: So we're doing zooms. And I would say that once 84 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: trainee camp opens, assuming it opens assuming that the NFL 85 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: players and the NFL get on the same page and 86 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: and those doors swing open. That's when the real changes 87 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: will begin, because we won't have any face to face 88 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 1: interaction with players with coaches. It will all be virtually done. 89 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: The protocols for practices will be different, The protocols for 90 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: game days will certainly be different. UM. I don't think 91 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: since I started covering this team, I have gone to 92 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: every road game and all but one. That's not true. 93 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: The one game that I missed, off the top of 94 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: my head, was in two thousand two, November one, or 95 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: nobody was in November three, probably two thousand two. It 96 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: was a game the forty nine is played against the 97 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders, and it was the day after my firstborn, 98 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: Jane was came into this world. So that is the 99 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: only game that I have missed, UM that I hadn't 100 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: been attended this year. I just don't see a scenario 101 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: where any traveling reporter, yourself, me, you name them. I 102 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: just don't see any any scenario where we're traveling to 103 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: Los Angeles or New York for back to back games 104 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: early in the season. UM, I would assume we'll have 105 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: access to the home games and Levi Stadium. But even then, 106 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: I guess, other than being in an empty stage d 107 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: M and kind of feeling sensing what it's like to 108 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: be in there, you know, there's really no great advantage 109 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: to be there because you won't be able to conduct 110 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: interviews in the locker room. But I guess you'd be 111 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: able to get the All twenty two. You know, we're 112 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: up there on the level of Levi Stadium, so we 113 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: have the television replays, we're able to kind of see 114 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: the plays developed from that bird's eye view. But um, 115 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: I would say the major changes, the major um you know, 116 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: adjustments that we all have to make will begin once 117 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: training camp opens. You were talking a little bit about 118 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: this being a different offseason because our access is completely different, 119 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 1: and we we got a lot of questions asking about 120 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: how specific players are doing and how are they how 121 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: are they fitting. But it's it's really difficult to give 122 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: a truthful and honest response because typically we're out there 123 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: at O T A S in mini camp and we 124 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: get to see what's happening on the field and we 125 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: get kind of that preview going into training camp. But 126 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: that's something that we haven't had this year, so with 127 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: that and looking at when your timeline of covering this team. 128 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: I want to go back to the season during that 129 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: lockout year. Was this offseason pretty similar to eleven for 130 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: you from a coverage standpoint, Yes, it was, other than 131 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: I never felt comfortable this year driving to San Jose 132 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: and and interviewing guys, you know, as they were leaving 133 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: the practice facility there. Um. So that's what happened in 134 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: eleven was that Alex Smith held these workouts with skill 135 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: players and actually there are some defensive players there too. 136 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: I remember Justine Smith and Ray McDonald, m Paris Harrelson, 137 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: some of the defensive guys would be working out in 138 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,479 Speaker 1: San Jose at San Jose, stayed using their their practice facility, 139 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: their their wait room. But this year is just so 140 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: different because of the pandemic going on. I've tried to 141 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: do a good job. My family has tried to do 142 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: a good job of social distancing and and wearing masks 143 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: and not coming into any unnecessary contact with with people 144 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: outside of our bubble. So in I would go down 145 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: there and I remember conducting interviews with some of the 146 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: players and just kind of getting a read on them. 147 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: There was one time I recall this specifically where you know, 148 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: sitting in the in the stands, they were spartan stadium 149 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: and writing or tweeting or whatever. It was about how 150 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: the players looked, how some of the newcomers were catching 151 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: the ball or whatever. And I know that during that point, 152 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: during the lockout, coaching staff did not could not have 153 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: any contact with the players. And so at that point 154 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: it was Jim Harbaugh and his coaching staff in their 155 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: first year. They would actually be going through our reports, 156 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, our twitter are written reports on our blogs whatnot, 157 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: and they would they would read those things. They would 158 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: go through it pretty thoroughly just to see, you know, 159 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: what their guys were doing, how they were looking. So 160 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, we were the eyes and 161 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: ears of for their for the HONS coaching staff. Now, 162 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: with social media being like it is, hey, if you 163 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: want to know what Kendrick Borne is doing, all you 164 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: have to do is go to Kendrick Borne's Instagram and 165 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: check out his latest story. I found it interesting to 166 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: see George Kittle his workouts and man, he's he's looking 167 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: like he's stepped in that weight room and he looks 168 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: big and incredible. Hook to me, yeah, do you do 169 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: you wonder if there's some photoshop going on. I don't know. 170 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: And and here's the big one, Jerick McKinnon. You know, 171 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: watching him on the track with the hurdles and just running. 172 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: I mean to me, that is a big key to 173 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: this season because when I look at where the forty 174 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: Niners where there's room for improvement from last year to 175 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: this year, I really don't think there are too many 176 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: places you can look, but certainly he is one of 177 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: them because of what he brings to the table. Jerick 178 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: McKinnon is a true third down back, a true thread 179 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: out of the backfield, catching passes, putting defenses in in 180 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: some pretty you know, conflicting situations as far as how 181 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: they cover him with whom, you know, where they devote 182 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: their resources and coverage. And so if he's running well 183 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: and cutting like the guy that the forty Niners thought 184 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: they were getting back in, then that is going to 185 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: be a big key for Kyle Shanahan that offense. Jimmy 186 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: Garoppolo Everybody Manscaped is the official grimming partner of the 187 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: forty Niners. Try Manscaped and get twenty percent off and 188 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: free shipping with Code forty Niners at manscape dot com. 189 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: That's code forty Niners for off at manscape dot com 190 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: forty Niners Official, You've Got Male podcast sponsored by Manscape You. 191 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: I was actually going to ask you about Jered McKinnon. 192 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: It was actually one of the fans submitted questions on 193 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: on how do you see him fitting into the rotation 194 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: this year? But I love how you answered that, and 195 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: it kind of drives us right into one of the 196 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: next questions that I actually had for you, And it's 197 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: the hot topic. It's what everybody has been talking about 198 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: as of late, and that's Wherehee moster. I can't count 199 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: how many questions that we've received on the running back 200 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: requesting the trade. But I want to get your take 201 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: and and hear what you think on this situation and 202 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: how did the forty Niners get to this place. Yeah, 203 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: it's a tough situation because obviously we all whole Rahim 204 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: and in very high regard. He's a guy that has 205 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: remained in the league. Maybe he didn't get the opportunities 206 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: that that he would have gotten if he were a 207 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: late round draft pick even bounced around the league. Very 208 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: talented guy, and it's taken so long for him to 209 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: get into that position where he's not just a special 210 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: teams player, but being a special teams player in the 211 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: NFL you have to have this inherent sense of selflessness, right. 212 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean that if there's there's anything that being a 213 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: special teams player is about, it's about just coach, tell 214 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: me what you want me to do, and I will 215 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: do it. And nobody has done that better than him. 216 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: And then when he got his opportunity, you know, late 217 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: last season, I mean, he ends up leading the team 218 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: and rushing had that unbelievable game in the NFC Championship game. 219 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: The problem and I totally know where he's going with 220 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: he's twenty eight years old. By the time he plays 221 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: out the remainder of his contract, he's going to be 222 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: on the wrong side of thirty. And for a running back, 223 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: that's that's not a great place to be when you're 224 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: looking for, you know, your big money making contract. So 225 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: you see where he is wanting to cash in because 226 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: he was the hot hand last year. He's never been 227 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: more hot as a player, um, and so there's some 228 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: money there with NFL lifespans, if you will, being so short, 229 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: he's got to cash in. But from the standpoint they're 230 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: not in the business of signing someone to a contract, 231 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: a multi year contract, and then saying, oh, you've outperformed this, 232 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: You've played really well, let's let's give you even more money, 233 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: especially when you have so many guys who are coming 234 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: up on on tracks. George Kittle is going to be 235 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: the highest paid tight end in the league by a 236 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: long ways. And at what point do the forty nine 237 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: and George Kittle and his agent get that thing done? 238 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: If if you don't reward George Kittle, who do your 239 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: reward you have next year? I mean, look at all 240 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: the free agents on this team next year, Trent Williams, 241 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, Kwan Williams, on and on and on. There's 242 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: a lot of guys who are who are coming up 243 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: on a new deals. So and then you look at 244 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: a year down the road. Mike mcglenchey, Fred Warner, I mean, 245 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: those guys are going to come in some big time 246 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: money deals. So, yeah, when you can roll over salary 247 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: cap unspent salary cap dollars from one year to the next, 248 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: you have to look at it that way, like, Okay, 249 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: two million dollars not spent this year is two million 250 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: more dollars next year for any number of those players 251 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: or a combination of those players. So, um, I don't 252 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: know what the market will be like. I mean, it's 253 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: pretty clear in listening to Brett Tesla, the agent for him, 254 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: Morris say, we've been trying for five months to get 255 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: to get a new deal done. Forty Niners have not 256 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: been receptive to that. They don't want to set that 257 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: precedent of tearing up someone's contract and giving them more money. 258 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: So I don't know what the end of game is here, 259 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: because in order for the fort to trade Raheim most 260 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: they would have to find a team that A is 261 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: willing to pay Raheem the money that he and his 262 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: agent watt, which is from what I understand, around four 263 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: and a half million, which is what Tevin Coleman's making. 264 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: But then from the forty Niners standpoint, you're not going 265 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: to make that trade because you you still have Ray 266 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: for two more years under contract. You're not going to 267 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: make that trade unless the team comes to the table 268 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: and says we're going to give you a very good 269 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: draft pick. What that number is is that a second 270 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: round pick is a third round pick? I don't know, 271 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: but Rahee Moster is a good football player in the 272 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: aren't in the business of giving away good football players, 273 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: so I just don't know where it's going to go 274 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: from here. I want to talk a little bit about 275 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and what he's able to do with the 276 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: running backs. You look at Matt Brita, who's now with 277 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, and you look at guys like Raheem Moster, 278 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: both of these guys undrafted. Kyle Shanahan his system molds 279 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: them into being, you know, running backs that are near 280 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: the top of the league in several categories. And when 281 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: I asked this, I'm not saying this to discredit what 282 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: Raheem Moster has done, nor what Matt Brita has done. 283 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: But in Kyle Shanahan's system in his offense, is it 284 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan or is it the running back? Well, I 285 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: think it's both. I think that Raheem Mostart was on 286 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: this team when Shanahan and Lynch came in. There aren't 287 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: very many players still on this team from the group 288 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: that they inherited. So what they're able to do what 289 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: Kyle is able to do. And I think Bobby Turner 290 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: we were going to put him in the same category 291 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: because basically anywhere a Shannahan goes. Bobby Turning, Yeah, Mike 292 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: Chanahan before him, And you talked about Kyle Shanahan, Well 293 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: what about Mike Chanahan. You know, seven different running backs 294 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: during his time as head coach in Denver and Washington, 295 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: seven different running backs had thousand yard rushing seasons. So 296 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: I think what Kyle is able to do is to 297 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: see a guy like Mostard and say he has the 298 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: skills that will fit in my system. And so it's 299 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: a combination, right. It's like he's a talented guy. Carlos Hyde, 300 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: very talented player, but he wasn't exactly what Kyle Shanahan 301 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: was looking for. He had a fine year in but 302 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: the for Nandie really had no desire to bring him 303 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: back because in their mind, Matt Brita was more along 304 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: the lines of what they were looking for. Rahee Mostered 305 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: more along the lines of what they're looking for. Tevin 306 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: coleman Um, you know Jeff Wilson to a degree, certainly 307 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: Jerick McKinnon, and so he's looking for very specific things. 308 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: And the speed I mean last year, I mean the 309 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: speed they had at the running back position. I know, 310 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: the guys this time of year. A year ago, we're 311 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: joking about, you know, they'd have the top for for 312 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: by meter relay team in the league. Um So, I 313 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: think it's it's a both. It's both, Kiana. It's it's 314 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: the player has to have the skill. But but it's 315 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: specific skills that Kyle Sheenhands looking for. It's those guys 316 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: who can who can can take it outside, read the 317 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: blocks in front of them in that zone blocking scheme 318 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: and then as they say, stick their foot in the 319 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: ground and get up a field and go from zero 320 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: to seventy and you know, point two seconds. You know, 321 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: So the guys who can really hit the accelerator. And 322 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I when I think back on 323 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: Raheemo Stared in the season he had last year and 324 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: how he performed in the playoffs, I mean, it's kind 325 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: of like showing patients taking it out wide and then boom, 326 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: finding the crease and just hitting it. And boy, nobody 327 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: or very few players did it as well as he did. 328 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: So I know the fort Years went out and they 329 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: signed a couple of guys as undrafted rookies, Jamaicael Hasty 330 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: from Baylor and Savon Akhmed from Washington. So That's one 331 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: thing with the forty Niners that I've learned through these 332 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: three years of being close to Kyle Shanahan and that 333 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: coaching staff and the personnel department is don't ever rule 334 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: out and under the radar running back that they bring 335 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: the camp because there's a reason they're bringing these guys 336 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: to training camp. Absolutely, I'm going to jump into a 337 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: fan question, uh Roy men Hares from Yakima, Washington. I hope, 338 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: I said, Yakima, Right, Yakima, have you been there? I have? Yeah, 339 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: Really I believe it's like central to Eastern Washington. Okay, Yakima, Washington. 340 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: Roy wants to know who will be the forty Niners 341 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: starting running back this season. And let's let's phrase this 342 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: question as all as well. Everyone's happy, everyone's on the roster. 343 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: You've got Tevin Coleman, you have RhE mostered, we talked 344 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: about Jet Jeff Wilson Jr. He tasty, the undrafted rookie. 345 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: And when you think about Kyle Shanahan's running backs, does 346 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: he ever truly have that number one starting running back? 347 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: And if so, who would that be the season? Well, 348 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: there's I guess there's a lot of different ways I 349 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: can answer that, and you're you're kind of leading me 350 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: down that path of where I want to go. Is 351 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: the difference between a starting running back and a finishing 352 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: running back. In other words, Tevin Coleman basically started every 353 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: game that he was healthy for last year. Raheem Mostert didn't, 354 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: has never started a game at running back in his 355 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: NFL career. But you tell me who their number one 356 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: running back was last year, I would answer Raheem Mostert, 357 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: though he wasn't the starter. Um, but I think but 358 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: then you look back at also the the divisional round game, 359 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman had a really good game against the Minnesota Vikings. 360 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: I think it plays into what Kyle sheeney Han wants 361 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: to not have in essence a number one guy. There 362 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: will be games, and you know, I don't know if 363 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: it's a big deal for Raheem that he wasn't the starter. 364 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean, some guys are better six men, you know, 365 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: guys coming off the bench and let the game develop 366 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: a little bit, kind of check things out and then 367 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: get in there. M Rahee Moster was a very productive 368 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: running back, but not a starter. And then you have 369 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: Jerrick McKinnon who won't be a starter unless the forty 370 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: nine is going to open in one back set and 371 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: and they want to exploit a mismatch from the get go. 372 00:23:55,359 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: But to me, assuming McKinnon is healthy and assuming at 373 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: raheem Mostart doesn't go anywhere UM for a basically have 374 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: three starting running backs, I would think that Jerick McKinnon 375 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: will be the guy who catches more passes than maybe 376 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: even the other two guys combined. I think that Tevin 377 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: Coleman will probably start more and maybe have more touchdowns, 378 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: but most Are might have a much higher average yards 379 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: per carry UM and ultimately Coleman and most Are will 380 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: probably see about the same amount of playing time. So 381 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: I guess the the good thing is, you know, it's 382 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: it would be kind of a backspike committee, and I 383 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: don't necessarily see there being you know, a one guy 384 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: head and shoulders above the rest. But if you're to 385 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: ask me who's the starter, it's probably gonna be Coleman 386 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: just because that's what worked so well last year. But 387 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: most Are would probably be the guy that would lead 388 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: the team in rushing. Hmm. You have your starter, you're 389 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: starting running back, and then you also have your finishing 390 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: running back. I haven't heard that phrase like that, but 391 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: it's definitely apparent in Kyle Shanahan's offense, and we saw 392 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: a lot of that last year. That was great examples. 393 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump into the elephant in the room and 394 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: you touched on it a little bit. But circling back 395 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: to that, and when I tell you I got a 396 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: lot of questions about Raheem Mostard and his situation. I 397 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: probably got twice as many asking what's up with George 398 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: Kittle side extend George Kittle, what's taken so long? And 399 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: and now we're seeing what happened just recently with Patrick 400 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: Mahomes getting his deal, and then you see Chris Jones, 401 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: the Chiefs managed you both get Pat and Chris Jones 402 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: settled heading into the season. Does that add any pressure 403 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: on John Lynch and wrong and their team to get 404 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: things done when you're seeing but those two guys right 405 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: there getting their deals done ahead of camp, I would 406 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: think it does. I mean I would yes. I mean 407 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: when you look at from the beginning of free agency, 408 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: you know the shutdown with the pandemic, the first thoughts 409 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: that revenues around the NFL are going to take a 410 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: major hit this season, and dust leave the salary cap 411 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: could fall dramatically next year, and one of the offers, 412 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: or one of the demands that the NFL players have 413 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: on the table right now is that they want that 414 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: one point two million dollar salary cap figure from the 415 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: season to remain flat in one and basically be borrowing 416 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: against uh future net revenues by ensuring that the cap 417 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: doesn't fall any this year otherwise or next year. So, 418 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: you know Prague and the way the Forts handle contracts 419 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: and just their roster, you know, they like to set 420 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: their salary structure. They like to be planning two, three 421 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: or four years in advance. And when in order to 422 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: do that, you have to know how much money you're 423 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: dealing with, and you know this contract that you signed today, 424 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: what's it going to look like in two years? What's 425 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: the landscape around the NFL going to be? Like the 426 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:38,959 Speaker 1: fact that the the Chiefs um really just kind of 427 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: went out there, you know, they won the Super Bowl 428 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: and they're they're basically saying, hey, we're going to use 429 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: the salary structures of what it looks like now in 430 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: making sure that we keep Patrick Mahomes and Chris Jones around. 431 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's certainly would embolden George Kittle's agent Jack Becta, 432 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: to say, hey, look, I know that you guys don't 433 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: want to commit this kind of money to George, but 434 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: it's you know, when you when you're talking about precedent 435 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: around the league. Look at what the Kansas City Chiefs 436 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: just did with their two guys. You know, they're they're 437 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: best player on offense and they're best player on defense. 438 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: They took care of these guys with record setting deals, 439 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: and so that's where Jack Becta would be looking at 440 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: for George Kittle. So it does. It's not a simple 441 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,959 Speaker 1: thing to sign a this kind of contract during a pandemic, 442 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: but Carolina did it with Christian McCaffrey, um, the Houston 443 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: Texas did it with their left tackle Larry Tunsil, and 444 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: then Kansas City does it with two of their top players. 445 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: So I just I don't know where this is going 446 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: because I think that the sides are quite a far, 447 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: quite a distance aways from coming to an agreement, and 448 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: next week or July, if it happens, I mean it's 449 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that there will be a deal done. 450 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: Maybe they get together. Deadlines always bring about movement, but 451 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: if they can't get a deal done. I think it's 452 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: going to be a big story, of course if George 453 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: Kittles and Camp entering the final year of his contract 454 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: making way under market value. But obviously it would be 455 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: a really big story and something that forty fans would 456 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: not look forward to seeing if George Kittle isn't there. 457 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: And I did ask George about that recently, about his 458 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: thoughts on on holding out from camp if he doesn't 459 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: have a contract, and he said all the things you 460 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: would expect George Kittle to say. He's a captive. You know, 461 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: he wants to be there. Uh, he wants to be 462 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: a leader, he wants to act like a leader. But 463 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: it's we all know this. It's business and is at 464 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: the right business decision for him. Only George Kittle, his wife, 465 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: his family, his agent, only they can make that determination. 466 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: Speaking of players returning to camp, Anthony Toutsen from Scranton, 467 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania wants to know the status on Deebo Samuel. Earlier 468 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: this offseason, Samuel suffered a stress fracture in his foot. 469 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: I was expected to miss between twelve to sixteen weeks. 470 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: Deebo is he gave himself an even shorter time Mine 471 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: to make it back. But I'm going to toss this 472 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: back to you, Matt. Do you think Deebo will be 473 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: ready for Week one? I don't think so, And I 474 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: just wonder if it makes sense for I mean, obviously 475 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: they'll be looking at the x rays, but that's one 476 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: injury you just don't want to rush back. Yeah, I 477 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: think I kind of got this sense last year that 478 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: Trent Taylor came back before perhaps he should have, or 479 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: I know he talked at the time that maybe he 480 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: pushed it a little bit too much. I mean that 481 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: for that position and that injury, it's it's a big deal, 482 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: and I think more time to rest and just be 483 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: thorough with it early on kind of helps you on 484 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: the back end. So you know, my thought would be 485 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: that that he'll report the training camp, he'll go on 486 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: the non football injury list, and I wouldn't be surprised 487 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: if you know, there, if there's any question at all, 488 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: that he would start the season on the non football 489 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: injury list and basically missed the first six weeks of 490 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: the year. That way, when he's back, he's fully healed 491 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: the risk of re injuring that aggravating that injury. It's 492 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: you know it's minimized, and then you've got a full 493 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: and healthy Deebo siamuall for the final ten games of 494 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: the season, and you got him strong for the playoffs. 495 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: So I mean, we don't I don't know and haven't 496 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: had that opportunity to to see him and check out 497 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: where that foot is far from a healing standpoint, but 498 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: my guess would be that that is probably the most 499 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: likely scenario that that he misses the first six games 500 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: of the season just to be safe rather than being sorry. 501 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: I want to follow up with actually a question from 502 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: Vic Davis the third. He wants to know who do 503 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: you think we'll have a bigger impact this year, which 504 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: is a perfect question coming off of that Depot conversation. 505 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: He wants to know who will have a bigger impact 506 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: between Jalen Heard or Brandon a Uk this year. Heard 507 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: miss last season while dealing with that back, it was 508 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: was it a fracture in his has a stress fraction 509 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: is lower back? Right? And then you have Brandan Ayuk 510 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: the rookie coming in. Uh. But when you're looking at 511 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: the potential of Debo being out and if the situation 512 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: that you're saying plays out, the forts will have to 513 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: rely on some of their younger guys, their inexperienced guys. 514 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: And that's when when you look at this entire wide 515 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: receivers group, outside of Travis Benjamin, I believe who would 516 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: be your your most experience would probably be born Yeah right, 517 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: I mean Kendrick Borne has played three years in the 518 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: league that the wide receiver position. I think people outside 519 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: the building don't have a very high opinion of this group, 520 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: but people inside the building see a lot of potential. Absolutely, 521 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: But I would say probably between Ayuk and Heard, I 522 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: think Ayuk would be the guy who would have the 523 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: bigger chance to have an opportunity to to step up 524 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: and do some things. And the reason is because he's 525 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: so versatile. You know, he can run every route, he's 526 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 1: got good speed, he can do a lot of different things. 527 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: Hurt Is like that as well, but maybe he's not 528 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: as polished as Zayuk is. H Heard only played wide 529 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: receiver one year in college. Last year, he got off 530 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: to a really good training camp, started training camp, then 531 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: have the injuries, so you know, he's basically inactive all 532 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: of last season and didn't even travel to the Super 533 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: Bowl because he didn't want to get on a flight 534 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 1: and fly five six hours to Miami and then come back. 535 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: So I think there's a reason that Kyle Shanahan and 536 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: the forty Diners traded up from thirty one to twenty 537 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 1: five to get Brandon Aiyuk, and that's because they like him. 538 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: They like the skill sets. Like earlier when we were 539 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: talking about the running backs, yes you have to have skill, 540 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: but you also have to have the traits that Kyle 541 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: Shanahan likes to see in a player at that position. 542 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: And what was kind of interesting was hearing Kyle talk 543 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: after the draft or when when we're heading up towards 544 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: the draft and the overall pick, before they traded back 545 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: one spot and you look at the wide receivers who 546 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: could be available. You know, some people thought that they 547 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: really liked Jerry Judy, you know. Other people thought that 548 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs would have been their guy. Others thought Ceedee Lamb. 549 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: So those were the three people, that three players that 550 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: everybody was talking about. It turns out after after Kyle, 551 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: who thank goodness, he kind of reveals his cards or 552 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, he he'll tell you what like it is. Basically, 553 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: what I gathered was that he had Ceedee Lamb and 554 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: Brandon Aiyuk rated very comparably. I think Ceedee Lamb was 555 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: rated above Ayuk, but they would have been happy with 556 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: either one of those guys, and they end up with Ayou. 557 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: So I think that tells you right there that even 558 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 1: though he hasn't stepped on the field in Santa Clara, 559 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: he has been working out with Jimmy Garoppolo and Nick 560 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: Mullins and c J. Bethred and Brock Radder, so he's 561 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: been around those guys, so he he has a grasp 562 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: of the system. I think UH guys like Deebo Samuel 563 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: and Ken dreck Borne have been very helpful to him. 564 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: So I think Brandon Ayuk has a chance to step 565 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: in immediately and make an Impactum. I don't know if 566 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: quite the level that Deebo Samuel did as a rookie, 567 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: but if Deebo Samuel is out, you might see a 568 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: similar situation with Ayuk that Samuel had last year, where 569 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: the fort had to just basically throw him out there 570 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: and and make him play through his mistakes. And what 571 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: you got was I'm sure a lot of rough mondays 572 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 1: for Deebo Samuel last year going through all the mistakes 573 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: he made, but from the of the season on and 574 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: certainly into the playoffs. The mistakes he made early in 575 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 1: the season that a lot of it we didn't even 576 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: know about it made them made him kind of learn 577 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: on the fly and kind of force fed the offense, 578 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: and the Forts offense was a lot better and Deebo 579 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: Samuel was a lot better towards the end of the 580 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: season because of the huge amount of playing time he 581 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: got early on when he probably wasn't quite ready for it. 582 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: With that, Alexander Edwards from Reno, Nevada wants to know 583 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 1: what kind of role can we expect from Jalen Hurt 584 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: this year as he returns from his his his back 585 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: situations from Here's what I think, I think that we 586 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 1: all know that I mean for NARS coaching staff of 587 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: Kyle she in Hand, Michael Fleur, Mike McDaniel, um, those 588 00:37:55,120 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: guys are really good about finding miss matches. Where I 589 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: think Jalen heard can really be a factor for the 590 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: forty Niners is specifically in two minute trials and maybe 591 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: it's even the middle of the second quarter, a no 592 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: huddle offense going out there. They might do two or 593 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: three series of game that are scripted no huddle, and 594 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: when you have a guy like Jalen Heard, imagine the 595 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: no huddle that you could have with Jalen Heard, Jerick McKinnon, 596 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: George Kittle, Kyle use check you guys where you can 597 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: just move them around and find the mismatches because in 598 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: no huddle, you know, the defense isn't able to sub in. 599 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: You know, the offense isn't subbing in, so the defense 600 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: will have to make a decision what personnel do we 601 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 1: put out there with this group? And they can move 602 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: those guys around, and a guy like Jalen Heard can 603 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: line up all over the formation and basically get in 604 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,760 Speaker 1: situations where you know it's a it's a man against 605 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: boys situation. Right, I'm a guy who's what is Jalen 606 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: six four or six five strong? Aggressive? I mean he 607 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: could find you know, they could kind of script things 608 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: in a sense that what's the weakest, you know, what's 609 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: the smallest or least physical guy out there, and can 610 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: use formation motions, play calls to kind of isolate those matchups. 611 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: So I think that's where Jalen Hurd can really excel 612 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: is in the two minute drill. With all the other 613 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: options the forty Niners have and they can really pinpoint 614 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: the matchups that they want to exploit. This podcast is 615 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: sponsored by Manscape, the official grooming partner of the fort 616 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: Try man Scape to get tw percent off and free 617 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 1: shipping with code forty Niners at manscape dot com. That's 618 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: forty Niners for off at manscaped dot com. Yeah, I'm 619 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 1: looking at the roster right now. Jalen's is the biggest 620 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: receiver the forty Niners have on their roster standing six 621 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: one more for you. Marvin Sanga from ELK Growth, California 622 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: wants to know, as we were talking about these forty 623 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: Niners receivers, what's the likelihood the forty Niners go after 624 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: a veteran receiver receiver to add to their roster. You know, 625 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: I don't see it. Um. I think the guys they 626 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: have now are the guys they're they're going to keep. Um. 627 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,240 Speaker 1: You know, none of these injuries, you know, Deebo Siennuel, 628 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: that's not a long term injury, at least they hope not. 629 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: But when you talk about Deebo Siennuel, Kendrick Bourne, Brandon, 630 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: I Jalen heard Dante Pettis. We haven't talked about Dante, 631 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: but remember a year ago, if you and I were 632 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: talking and right now, Kana, and if you ask me 633 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: who's going to be the number one wide receiver for 634 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: the season, I would have said Dant Pettis. And then 635 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: he fell off the face of the earth, and now 636 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: the onus is on him to show how badly he 637 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: wants it. Trent Taylor is a guy who can will 638 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: catch a lot of passes if he's healthy. You mentioned 639 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: Travis Benjamin earlier and then Richie James coming up the 640 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: the wrist injuries. So I just don't see the forty 641 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,479 Speaker 1: Niners going out and getting a wide receiver, a veteran guy, 642 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: and paying more than much more than the veteran minimum 643 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: for anybody. Um. You know, at this point, there are 644 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 1: ninety man rosters around the league, and we don't even 645 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: know if there will be ninety man rosters in training camp, 646 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: you know there there might it might be eighty, it 647 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: might be We don't know what the future holds. That's 648 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: something that the nfl UH and the NFL Players Association 649 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: will kind of hash through whether it's safe to bring 650 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: ninety players to training camps. So I just think that 651 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: the roster is set, you know, I don't think they're 652 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: going to make a deal for Jamal Adams. I don't think, 653 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: I know, for I would be floored to thy any 654 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,760 Speaker 1: interest in in Antonio Brown. That's simply not going to happen, 655 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: and any other receiver. Let's face it, at this point, 656 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: the only players out there who are available are guys 657 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: with a lot of baggage. And the Forts have such 658 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 1: a good thing going with the locker room chemistry. Um, 659 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: you know that just everything that the vibe in the 660 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: organization that I just I don't see them going out 661 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: and getting somebody. Now I say that, and maybe there's 662 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: a player from Kyle Shanahan's past that he would be 663 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: open to bringing in. Um, you know, got like Taylor Gabriel. 664 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: But I just don't see a big splash guy that's 665 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: going to come in and be in a situation where, 666 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: you know, a top producer on offense or a top 667 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: producer on defense is somebody who's not already on the team. 668 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: I got some in the mailbags. We got some questions 669 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: asking about the Dez Bryants in the Antonio Brown. So 670 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: Matt Mayoko says that he does not see the forty 671 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: Niners maybe going out getting one of those splash year 672 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: names when you look at the talent on the roster. Yeah, 673 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: and think about this too. I mean a year ago, 674 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have cost him anything to go out and 675 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: get Does Briant or Antonio Brown during a time when 676 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: they went out and traded to get Emmanuel Sanders. So 677 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, if they didn't want those guys last year, then, 678 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: especially in the in the case of Dez Bryant's what 679 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: makes you think that they would want him now when 680 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 1: he's another year removed from the game, another year older. 681 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: In the case of Anti Bonio Brown, they had no 682 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: interest in him even before all of the stuff that 683 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: went down with him after he signed with the Raiders, 684 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: because they kind of knew that that's the kind of 685 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 1: guy he is, and and they like where they're going. 686 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,879 Speaker 1: So now, I I simply don't see it. Forty Anders 687 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: are big on locker room culture. They've been preaching that 688 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: over the last couple of seasons, and I think the 689 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: forty nine is have a really good thing going with 690 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: the guys that they already have in the locker room. 691 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: So I agree with you. I don't necessarily see this 692 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: team taking that route. Hey, we've had surprises, did you 693 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: see the Sanders trade coming. Yes, yeah, I'm really I 694 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: mean I didn't. That did not surprise me. No, I well, 695 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: I know, I mean after the fact, I found out 696 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: that that Mohammed Sanu and man Standers were there two targets. 697 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: But no, I think that last year that that was 698 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: something that they desperately needed at that point. Um. So no, 699 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: that I don't think that was much of a surprise. 700 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't say, and I predicted it per se. 701 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: But you know, there are certain things that you see 702 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 1: or things that happened and catch you completely off guard. 703 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,240 Speaker 1: To me, the one that caught me completely off guard 704 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: was the divorce Buckner. But the Emmanuel Sanders deal made 705 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 1: pretty good sense, and he was kind of seen as 706 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: the guy that they really needed to take advantage of 707 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: the opportunity they had. I think they were seven and 708 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 1: oh or eight and o at the time of that trade, 709 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 1: and they really you know, it was Deebo Samuel and 710 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: Kendrick Borne and nobody else on that offense from the 711 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: wide receiver position. So um, that one made a lot 712 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: more sense and especially helped that he was coming from 713 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: an offense with the Broncos that was very similar A 714 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: year ago with rich Gangarrello as the offensive coordinator. So 715 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: that wasn't going to be a huge transition for Sanders 716 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 1: to go from the Broncos to the Denners, and it 717 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: didn't feel like there was one at all. It literally 718 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,240 Speaker 1: when when he got there, at least from my eyes, 719 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: was it the Carolina game? Yes, initially you have the 720 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: very first game. And and that's something too, is that 721 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,959 Speaker 1: you know, we we saw immediately what kind of guy 722 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders is was and you know, the Furtnariers do 723 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: their homework. I mean, they just don't say, hey man, 724 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: this guy looks great on film, let's trade for him 725 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: without also having a very good idea of exactly the 726 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: person they're getting. And so they knew that Emmanuel Sanders 727 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: was a guy who could come in, buy in. They 728 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 1: would you know, would be uh an attractive situation for 729 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: him coming to certainly be an attractive situation for the 730 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 1: team to get him. But also that this guy was 731 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,280 Speaker 1: a solid dude and could help all the younger receivers 732 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 1: around him, and that's something the Fourniers didn't have last 733 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: year at that position group before Emmanuel Sanders got there. 734 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: That's true, That's definitely true. And one thing that I 735 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: really picked up on this offseason was Diebo Samuel saying 736 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: that he he might not be the most vocal guy, 737 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: but he wants to make sure he's leading by example, 738 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 1: especially with these younger guys in the locker room. I 739 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: think this is probably one of the most I can't 740 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 1: say if it's the most, but as of right now, 741 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: I think the wide receiver position is probably one of 742 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: the most intriguing position groups heading into camp. Just watching 743 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: that shakeout, seeing some guys coming back from injury, I'm 744 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: pretty excited to see. No. I agree Keiana and I 745 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: mean we you know, you look at the wide receivers. 746 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 1: There's gonna be some pretty good receivers who don't make 747 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 1: the team. But yet it's not a position where you see, 748 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, an abundance of high level, big name players. 749 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: I think Deebo Samuel has a chance to be, you know, 750 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: a thousand yard receiver. He has a chance to be 751 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl player. But um, you know, buy and large. 752 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 1: Just for the casual fan, you know, it's not a 753 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,839 Speaker 1: group that jumps out at you as being anywhere near 754 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: a strength of the team. Um, kinder Borne is a 755 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: good player. He was a first down making touchdown making 756 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 1: machine last year. But I think by and large, players 757 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: really don't or I should say fans really don't know 758 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: about him because he did enter the year, or enter 759 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: his career as an undrafted rookie from Eastern Washington. So, uh, 760 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,240 Speaker 1: the foreigners have taken a leap of faith, I think 761 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: in some of these guys, but they've seen enough that 762 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: they like them, and they believe that this group has 763 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:51,280 Speaker 1: room to grow and become a pretty good, uh stable 764 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: of receivers for Jimmy Garoppolo. And they all kind of 765 00:48:53,960 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: have unique skills, unique abilities that the coaching staff can 766 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 1: kind of massage. And the one thing I do know 767 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: for sure is the last year it basically was Emmanuel Sanders, 768 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel and Kendrick Bourne. Uh. This year that they're 769 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: gonna need more guys. You're gonna need four or five 770 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: guys stepping up, and that didn't happened last year. So 771 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: the pressures on some of these guys to really step 772 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: up and show what they can do. And probably at 773 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,839 Speaker 1: the top of that list is Dante Pettis. Yeah, I'm 774 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: keeping my fingers crossed that on July, hopefully you and 775 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 1: I will be on hand at training camp and things 776 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: are started on time, we can finally begin to report 777 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 1: on how guys are looking coming back. It's gonna be 778 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna be really interesting seeing guys 779 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: coming back in camp shape when you haven't necessarily had 780 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: your typical offseason. But with that being said, uh, looking 781 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: forward to camp, you know, hoping that by by some miracle, 782 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 1: things do start on times, figure out a way, the 783 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: NFL figures out a way to have a season. Because 784 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: I can say one thing, and I think I speak 785 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: on behalf of many many people that we really really 786 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: can't wait for football to come back. I was on 787 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: a walk with my fifteen year old daughter and she said, 788 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: when are you going back to work? And I said, 789 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 1: well later this month. I go if if there is football, 790 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, it'll be later this month. And she said, 791 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: there has to be football. I can't I believe she 792 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: even through a I can't imagine America without football, and 793 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: so I think I think she echoes the thoughts of 794 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people that you know. Up to this point. 795 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,399 Speaker 1: I think people have managed to get by without Major 796 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: League Baseball, without the NBA, uh, you know, coming around 797 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 1: and finishing their season so hopefully things go well with 798 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball and the NBA and they can kind 799 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: of set the tone for how they should be. But yeah, 800 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Kiana. Hopefully I'll be down there and 801 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 1: we can talk and watch football for all the way 802 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: through the season. I sure hope. So, Matt, this was 803 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much for joining us, 804 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 1: Thanks for answering some of the questions, and make sure 805 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: you stay safe out there. And I'm crossing my fingers 806 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: as we speak. I'm crossing my fingers. I get to 807 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: see you in a few weeks. I hope so too. 808 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: All Right, Yeah, I'll see you down in Santa Clara 809 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: real soon, see us And thanks Matt.