Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, September twenty fourth, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Show where we're filmed
Speaker 1: before live studio audience. Smy your man, MG Marcus Grant,
Speaker 1: joined by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones, and the
Speaker 1: follow up to our Monday shows. We get into Tuesday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got some waiver wire deep dies, and to tell
Speaker 1: you some guys that we think you can put back
Speaker 1: on the waiver wire without a whole lot of issue.
Speaker 2: But fellas, it's not even to some big questions here.
Speaker 1: We have seen three weeks of NFL football heading into
Speaker 1: Week four, now some things that we think we know
Speaker 1: that we still want the answers to. In the first one,
Speaker 1: Florio Skyler Thompson got the start for Miami with Tua
Speaker 1: Tongue of Ioloa injured.
Speaker 2: Skyler Thompson did not finish the game for Miami.
Speaker 1: It was bad all the way around offensively, and so
Speaker 1: now the question become is Tyreek Hill startable? Jalen Wattle
Speaker 1: we were sort of a questions about, but we were
Speaker 1: all like, Tyreek Hill, you can't get away from him.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you can you get away from Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm a.
Speaker 3: Sucker for a big name and for upside and speed
Speaker 3: and all of that. So for me, no, I think
Speaker 3: Jalen Wattle you could sit pretty comfortably right now. But
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill for me, like we have seen a game
Speaker 3: like twenty two against the play in the playoffs against
Speaker 3: the Bills where they still drew up fifteen targets for
Speaker 3: him despite it being Skylar Thompson. They'll get him some
Speaker 3: touches on the ground here and there. So because of
Speaker 3: the big playability that Tyreek has, I would need a
Speaker 3: very very good option to get away from him. I'm
Speaker 3: probably still starting him. But man, if there's one quarterback
Speaker 3: who can make me reconsider, it's Tim Boyle, who not
Speaker 3: only does he have four career touchdowns and twelve interceptions
Speaker 3: three years in Connecticut. One touchdown, thirteen interceptions. I say
Speaker 3: it every time this guy plays. I don't know how
Speaker 3: he made the league, let alone is still in it.
Speaker 3: But even with Tim, I think I start Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 2: Are you feeling the same way? Are you?
Speaker 1: And I'm what I'm saying is like I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I have the guts to sit Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 4: Would you sit him, listen, if I practice what I've preached,
Speaker 4: because I'm actually in the league where I have Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 4: I'm pretty deep at wide receiver to where like now
Speaker 4: guys like Deontay Johnson are coming along and it's like
Speaker 4: I really feel like I have other options to pivot
Speaker 4: to if the matchup is really really disgusting, Like I
Speaker 4: have the guts to do what it takes to get
Speaker 4: the W because I honestly think if we go back
Speaker 4: out there were Tim Boyle, if we go back out
Speaker 4: there where Skyler Thompson, it's going to be really really
Speaker 4: ugly for Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean that's my things that yesterday Tyreek was the
Speaker 1: leading receiver three catches for forty yards on five targets.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know how they move the ball
Speaker 1: with either Skyler Thompson or Tim Boyle.
Speaker 2: May maybe Tyler Huntley helped save the day. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's bleak.
Speaker 1: It's really bleak until two it comes back to this
Speaker 1: off it's it is nasty, nasty work. Uh, let's go
Speaker 1: to Baltimore. Because Week one it was Isaiah Likely. Week two,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, week three, Mark Andrews was on a
Speaker 1: milk carton, which, by the way, I don't know if
Speaker 1: they still put people on the side of milk cartons.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a reference that's probably dated and
Speaker 1: no one knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: He was missing.
Speaker 1: Basically, let's just say that, lakwan, how how much longer
Speaker 1: can we give it? With the Ravens side ends, specifically
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews. I mean, at some point we got to
Speaker 1: cut the cord, don't we.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's about that time he hits the bench
Speaker 4: comfortably to where like, man, they can't really figure out
Speaker 4: what's gonna be, what who's gonna be? Who likely is
Speaker 4: still heavily involved in this offense as well. So I'm
Speaker 4: looking at Mark Andrews, like, look, it's already bad out
Speaker 4: here in these fantasy streets for a tight end. So
Speaker 4: I'm over here looking for a Tyler Conklin, I'm over
Speaker 4: here looking for a Cole command I'm over here looking
Speaker 4: for John new Smith. And you know, it's like really
Speaker 4: really bad to have a Mark Andrews. You know, price
Speaker 4: tag will be spent on him in the summer, but
Speaker 4: it's more so like I'm gonna sit until he pops
Speaker 4: off and we get him fully recover from this this
Speaker 4: accident that he had head into the season. It's like,
Speaker 4: we just need to see something from this Ravens offense
Speaker 4: with Mark Andrews as the focal point.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm wondering, Like, is there more there than
Speaker 1: the Ravens have let on? I mean, they they definitely
Speaker 1: downplayed it after he got in the car accident in
Speaker 1: training camp. You know, obviously we don't know anything for sure,
Speaker 1: but he ran four routes fo Or there's one more
Speaker 1: than three, one less than five.
Speaker 2: Something is happening with Mark Andrews and we don't know what.
Speaker 4: I ran more routes to the trash can today.
Speaker 3: Wow, I am giving them one more week though they
Speaker 3: play the Bills next week. Bills strength is their secondary,
Speaker 3: their weaknesses their linebackers. If this is not the matchup
Speaker 3: where these guys are utilized, then then I'm hitting the
Speaker 3: panic button. But given the state of tight end in
Speaker 3: the matchup and all that, I'm willing to give them
Speaker 3: one more job.
Speaker 1: Speaking of h the panic button, Florida, you are a
Speaker 1: noted Rashad White detractor.
Speaker 2: We're around the campfire.
Speaker 1: Is that Bucky Irving has earned more snaps in the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay offense. Is it time to maybe think about setting.
Speaker 2: Up a conscious uncoupling with Rashad White on your fantasy roster? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I do think so because you go back two years ago,
Speaker 3: Leonard Fournette and Rashad White were up there. I think
Speaker 3: they were both the top two and least amount of
Speaker 3: rushing yards over expectation, in fact, most negative rushing yards
Speaker 3: over expectation. And then last year Rashad White led the
Speaker 3: league in that once again fewest yards over expectation, however
Speaker 3: you want to word it the most negative. And then
Speaker 3: you look at what he's done this year. His touches
Speaker 3: have decreased from fifteen carries to ten to just six.
Speaker 3: The targets. Week one he had six, which was great,
Speaker 3: but since then he has seven targets and he has
Speaker 3: turned them into twenty three yards. Bucky Irving is clearly
Speaker 3: the better runner. I want to see if the Bucks
Speaker 3: will give Bucky Irving a chance as a pass catcher,
Speaker 3: because that is something we know he can do from
Speaker 3: his college profile. But so far in the NFL, the
Speaker 3: bulk of all these targets have gone to Rashad White.
Speaker 3: So if now Bucky's already eating into the groundwork. If
Speaker 3: he could start eating into the passing work, it might
Speaker 3: just make Rashad White a fringe like flex option kind
Speaker 3: of running back. I'm not saying he's there yet, but
Speaker 3: that is the direction we are trending in, and I
Speaker 3: certainly think he is a sit next week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you can't drop him yet, right Lakwan.
Speaker 1: I mean you probably spent too much draft capital on him.
Speaker 1: You can't drop him, But he's getting harder to start
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: It is hard to start him.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at his seventy percent snap opportunities not making
Speaker 4: the best of it on the ground. To be really specific,
Speaker 4: I mean two point one yards per carry. That is
Speaker 4: real nasty work for a guy like young Bucky Irvin
Speaker 4: that can really get it done on the ground. That's
Speaker 4: doing six point two yards per carry what only thirty
Speaker 4: three percent of the snaps. So he's making the best
Speaker 4: of every opportunity as and he simply just looks better
Speaker 4: in the trenches. He looks better at making the right
Speaker 4: decisions of what gap to hit in that old line.
Speaker 4: Like at first I was thinking maybe the old line
Speaker 4: is bad, but then you go back to watch some
Speaker 4: of these runs that Rashad White has in between the tackles,
Speaker 4: He's like he's running right into his old lineman like
Speaker 4: every single time. And Bucky Irvin's just floating through the trenches.
Speaker 4: He's like dancing so so gentle through the trenches and
Speaker 4: it's just like he's getting upfield. So I think he
Speaker 4: needs more opportunities, and I think he earned these opportunities.
Speaker 4: If this is what you know, the rumors are in
Speaker 4: the fantasy streets that Bucky Irvin might be a thing.
Speaker 2: He definitely looks like a thing for sure.
Speaker 1: You look at the last couple of weeks for Rashad White,
Speaker 1: twenty three Scrimmage Yards in week two, thirty five Scrimmage
Speaker 1: Yards in week three. Got a rookie. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: the word I was looking for. There it is, He's
Speaker 1: got a rookie breathing down his neck, getting ready to.
Speaker 2: Take his job.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's dive into some deep waiver wire options.
Speaker 2: We had the regular waiver wire on the Monday Show.
Speaker 1: You can go check that out if you subscribe as
Speaker 1: you should, I should show up in your feed. But
Speaker 1: the LaQuan if we are diving a little bit deeper
Speaker 1: on the waivers, this week.
Speaker 2: Who are we looking at.
Speaker 4: Listen, this is a name that I've been saying for
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks and hopefully some people are going
Speaker 4: out there to go get him. It's Wandell Robinson. Man,
Speaker 4: this is a deep dive for a guy that can
Speaker 4: fill in for some of these bye weeks that are
Speaker 4: on the way. They're coming very soon, the bye weeks
Speaker 4: will be here, and you want a guy like Wandell
Speaker 4: Robinson who has some type of volume, who has some
Speaker 4: type of target share. He had a second game with
Speaker 4: over twenty percent plus target share, and he's a solid
Speaker 4: low end wide receiver two that could definitely help out
Speaker 4: with injuries right now at the wide receiver position in
Speaker 4: the bye weeks. And again he's going to be playing
Speaker 4: very short close to the line of scrimmage for Daniel
Speaker 4: Jones when Malik Neighbors is not available, he's going to
Speaker 4: be looking for a security bloying Sae Kwon Barkley's not there,
Speaker 4: so that checkdown now transfers to Wanda Robinson, who's a
Speaker 4: guy that able can catch in turn upfield and get
Speaker 4: those extra yards that you're looking for that you can't
Speaker 4: get with your wide receiver one.
Speaker 2: And Melik Neighbors.
Speaker 1: Now he's a wide receiver three right now. Sure, he's
Speaker 1: a wide receiver thirty two.
Speaker 2: I like him.
Speaker 1: I picked him up, I drafted him actually a couple
Speaker 1: of spots, just because the targets are gonna be there.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be as spectacular and downfield as Moligue Neighbors,
Speaker 1: but they're there, and that's kind of the important part,
Speaker 1: especially if you're looking for somebody off the waiver wire.
Speaker 1: Sneak peek into what my my sleeper's column is gonna be. Florio,
Speaker 1: your guy here on the deep waiver wire's gonna He's
Speaker 1: gonna make an appearance in the sleepers column this week
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lakwan, you might want to cover your ears. But
Speaker 3: Michael Wilson looks like the wide receiver two in Arizona.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: He he doesn't come off the field.
Speaker 2: He run.
Speaker 3: He's already been top two amongst the receivers and snaps
Speaker 3: and routes. But two games in a row now he
Speaker 3: has had more targets than Greg Dortch as well. I
Speaker 3: know it was only two in week two, but nine
Speaker 3: targets in Week three, which was a game that I
Speaker 3: had thought. I know, you guys as well. Thought was
Speaker 3: like shaping up to be a week for Greg Dortch.
Speaker 3: They were trailing, the Lions have had struggles against slot
Speaker 3: receivers stuff like that. But watching this game, this was
Speaker 3: the afternoon game that I had on like my I
Speaker 3: can screen with red zone that I was really locked
Speaker 3: in on. Kyler was looking Michael Wilson's way a lot,
Speaker 3: and these two just look like they have some chemistry there.
Speaker 3: They look like they're on the same page. And with
Speaker 3: Trey McBride out potentially next week now I know he's
Speaker 3: in concussion protocol and stuff, it looks to me like
Speaker 3: Michael Wilson is the option now that could be that
Speaker 3: chain mover, that role that Trey McBride plays when he
Speaker 3: is healthy. So I just think opportunity and being on
Speaker 3: the fields in an offense like this with Kyler Murray
Speaker 3: is enough to make him a waiver wire target in
Speaker 3: deep weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, we have to talk about dorch Land. It
Speaker 1: seems as though the roller coasters are not being maintained there. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: attendance is down at Gorchland. Your first appears there and
Speaker 1: you just see all the bad It is just like, hey,
Speaker 1: look to in your defense. Opening Day Disneyland was a
Speaker 1: disaster too, and see how it turned around. So there
Speaker 1: is I'm calling a little bit of an audible on
Speaker 1: my deep dive waiver wire, but not significantly. I was
Speaker 1: gonna suggest that your deep dive waiver wire option be
Speaker 1: Ray Ray McLeod. I'm staying in Atlanta and I'm pivoting
Speaker 1: to Darnell Mooney.
Speaker 2: Either way, both of those guys.
Speaker 1: Are getting a lot more love than I think anybody
Speaker 1: anticipated in the Atlanta offense the first three games of
Speaker 1: the season. I mean, we're all like Kyle Pitts, Drake London, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like it's been nice to see It was nice
Speaker 1: to see Pitts get downfield. It's nice to see Drake London,
Speaker 1: you know, getting targets and getting books in the end zone.
Speaker 2: But let's keep it real.
Speaker 1: Darnell Mooney is getting the ball a ton in the
Speaker 1: Atlanta passing game. They are they're working him open, They're
Speaker 1: getting the ball to him. He is second to Drake
Speaker 1: London in targets, he is second in receptions. He actually
Speaker 1: leads the team in receiving yards. Darnell Mooney is legitimately
Speaker 1: a big part of what the Falcons are doing in
Speaker 1: the passing game. None of us anticipated this. So at
Speaker 1: some point though, we gotta start believing what we see.
Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean that Pitts in London can't still
Speaker 1: succeed in this offense. But through three weeks it's very
Speaker 1: apparent that Darnel Moon's gonna be a big part of
Speaker 1: what they do. And look, at the same time, I
Speaker 1: don't think you can ignore Ray Ray McLeod either. He's
Speaker 1: getting opportunities, was not quite as many on Sunday nights
Speaker 1: as we saw earlier in the season, but he's still
Speaker 1: a part of this offense. Suddenly, what was a very
Speaker 1: narrowly funneled passing game the last couple of years is
Speaker 1: opening up a little bit.
Speaker 2: That's good for the Falcons. Yeah, maybe not so great
Speaker 2: for us.
Speaker 1: But if this is what it's gonna be, we got
Speaker 1: to kind of play to what's going on and kind
Speaker 1: of get on board with it. So we're adding guys
Speaker 1: off the waiver wire. That means we have to be
Speaker 1: dropping guys back to the waiver wire. And for you, Lakwan,
Speaker 1: who are we just say, hey man, it's just not
Speaker 1: working out.
Speaker 2: This one may sound like it's just so left field.
Speaker 4: But I have a lot of Dalton Schultz, and I
Speaker 4: feel like there's no real opportunity for him to eat
Speaker 4: in this offense on a week and week basis, especially
Speaker 4: with tight ends being so bad in the fantasy streets
Speaker 4: right now. Like I said earlier, there's other options that
Speaker 4: you could go and get. Their roster didn't work than
Speaker 4: fifty percent rosters, and they're going to in leagues where
Speaker 4: they're gonna be able to have a solid floor of
Speaker 4: at least some type of target share, and Dalton Schultz
Speaker 4: just does not look like he fits in because I
Speaker 4: know last year we saw at times where he was
Speaker 4: able to have flashes to show up, but a lot
Speaker 4: of that was because Tank Dell was down where Nico
Speaker 4: cons was banged though. But it's like, now we're looking
Speaker 4: at an offense that has three solid wide receivers that
Speaker 4: are all making plays all around the field, and then
Speaker 4: you add in a Joe Mixon into that backfield, take
Speaker 4: us some of that target share. Dalton Schultz just kind
Speaker 4: of looks like, you know, the odd man out in
Speaker 4: this situation.
Speaker 2: So we got to break up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I stood away for Dalton Schultz kind of for
Speaker 1: that reason, Like we spent so much time talking about
Speaker 1: the receivers. I was like, well, what is there anything
Speaker 1: left for Dalton Schultz? And through three weeks the answer
Speaker 1: is no, No, there isn't.
Speaker 3: I write about weekly as a.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, uh for you Florio, I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: I'm gonna quote the great Sean Carter grand opening, grand closing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Tyler.
Speaker 3: Look after week one, when he had the seven targets,
Speaker 3: five catches seventy to nine yards, I bought in and
Speaker 3: I was like, this could be the guy running the
Speaker 3: pooka routes. Didn't happen in week two, which is two
Speaker 3: catches for twenty yards, But Cooper Cup went down, and
Speaker 3: I have Tyler Johnson on a whole bunch of rosters,
Speaker 3: and I convinced myself, let's give him one more week.
Speaker 3: Let's see what this offense looks like without Cooper and
Speaker 3: Pooka out there. And in a game where they were
Speaker 3: trailing throughout, most of which by double digits, and they
Speaker 3: had to throw a whole bunch, four targets, three catches,
Speaker 3: twenty yards went to Tyler Johnson And the thing is,
Speaker 3: it really just looks like Kien Williams are busted from
Speaker 3: this Rams offense right now. I know people keep trying
Speaker 3: to make Jordan winning the Winnington thing, and yeah, maybe
Speaker 3: he could become something as the year goes on to
Speaker 3: too at Well had a couple of big plays, but
Speaker 3: I don't trust it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I have just.
Speaker 3: Decided to wash my hands clean of this Rams offense
Speaker 3: until the big guys come back, which so for me
Speaker 3: kyn or bust right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, part of what made what kept the Niners
Speaker 1: off balance defensively is that they didn't know where the
Speaker 1: ball was going. It might be Whittington, it might be
Speaker 1: too two out well, you know, it might be Kobe Parkinson.
Speaker 2: They might be running or throwing the Tyron Williams.
Speaker 1: I mean, Sean McVay was in his bag on Sunday
Speaker 1: and him and Matthew Stafford really did the thing to
Speaker 1: keep that Niner defense off balance. Gonna make it really
Speaker 1: hard to lock in on any Rams pass catchers as
Speaker 1: long as they're spreading the ball around like that.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: For me, it's Ezekiel Elliott. It's it's time. You know,
Speaker 1: you know how bad things are. Things are bad when
Speaker 1: people are asking Jerry Jones why they didn't go after
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, and he was like, we couldn't afford him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, bruh, yes, you really, Jerry Jones, come on, man, like,
Speaker 1: come on, like what nobody's buying it. But two, it
Speaker 1: also speaks to how bad the Cowboys run game is
Speaker 1: right now. The fact that they were able to come
Speaker 1: back at all against Baltimore and make that game close.
Speaker 1: I think that speaks more to sort of the Ravens
Speaker 1: going into an offensive shell than anything the Cowboys did.
Speaker 1: But the run game is non existent when you're cycling
Speaker 1: through Zeke, ric O'dowdell, Deuce Vaughan. It's a bad situation there. Zeke,
Speaker 1: I think because of name value is still rostered in
Speaker 1: a ton of leagues. But I just don't really see
Speaker 1: a way forward with this team offensively. I think you
Speaker 1: can move on from Ezekiel Elliott at this point. In fact,
Speaker 1: I don't know, guys. I don't think there's any running
Speaker 1: backs in Dallas that I want any part of.
Speaker 2: I think beyond Dak Ceedee Lamb, Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 1: That's kind of it for Cowboys I have any interest
Speaker 1: in unless you guys know somebody else.
Speaker 2: No, I mean Jalen Tober.
Speaker 4: It looked good with his opportunities, but I don't trust
Speaker 4: it this early.
Speaker 2: I need to see it on a week of basis.
Speaker 2: And Brandon Cooks is still around, but dust yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean ceilings low.
Speaker 3: There is two good weeks in a row though for Tober.
Speaker 3: In some of my deep leagues, I will be putting
Speaker 3: in bids for.
Speaker 2: Him this week, all right, So maybe there's one more.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's something else, but the run game.
Speaker 1: That's like real deep though, like rosters were talking, So
Speaker 1: the run game, though, I think you could forget about
Speaker 1: it in Dallas.
Speaker 2: It is pretty much a rap for that and it
Speaker 2: is also pretty much a rap for us here.
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