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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, September twenty fourth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Show where we're filmed

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Speaker 1: before live studio audience. Smy your man, MG Marcus Grant,

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Speaker 1: joined by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones, and the

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Speaker 1: follow up to our Monday shows. We get into Tuesday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got some waiver wire deep dies, and to tell

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Speaker 1: you some guys that we think you can put back

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Speaker 1: on the waiver wire without a whole lot of issue.

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Speaker 2: But fellas, it's not even to some big questions here.

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Speaker 1: We have seen three weeks of NFL football heading into

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Speaker 1: Week four, now some things that we think we know

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Speaker 1: that we still want the answers to. In the first one,

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Speaker 1: Florio Skyler Thompson got the start for Miami with Tua

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Speaker 1: Tongue of Ioloa injured.

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Speaker 2: Skyler Thompson did not finish the game for Miami.

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Speaker 1: It was bad all the way around offensively, and so

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Speaker 1: now the question become is Tyreek Hill startable? Jalen Wattle

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Speaker 1: we were sort of a questions about, but we were

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Speaker 1: all like, Tyreek Hill, you can't get away from him.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you can you get away from Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm a.

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Speaker 3: Sucker for a big name and for upside and speed

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Speaker 3: and all of that. So for me, no, I think

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Speaker 3: Jalen Wattle you could sit pretty comfortably right now. But

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Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill for me, like we have seen a game

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Speaker 3: like twenty two against the play in the playoffs against

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Speaker 3: the Bills where they still drew up fifteen targets for

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Speaker 3: him despite it being Skylar Thompson. They'll get him some

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Speaker 3: touches on the ground here and there. So because of

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Speaker 3: the big playability that Tyreek has, I would need a

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Speaker 3: very very good option to get away from him. I'm

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Speaker 3: probably still starting him. But man, if there's one quarterback

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Speaker 3: who can make me reconsider, it's Tim Boyle, who not

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Speaker 3: only does he have four career touchdowns and twelve interceptions

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Speaker 3: three years in Connecticut. One touchdown, thirteen interceptions. I say

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Speaker 3: it every time this guy plays. I don't know how

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Speaker 3: he made the league, let alone is still in it.

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Speaker 3: But even with Tim, I think I start Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 2: Are you feeling the same way? Are you?

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Speaker 1: And I'm what I'm saying is like I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: I have the guts to sit Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 4: Would you sit him, listen, if I practice what I've preached,

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Speaker 4: because I'm actually in the league where I have Tyreek Hill,

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty deep at wide receiver to where like now

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Speaker 4: guys like Deontay Johnson are coming along and it's like

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Speaker 4: I really feel like I have other options to pivot

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Speaker 4: to if the matchup is really really disgusting, Like I

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Speaker 4: have the guts to do what it takes to get

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Speaker 4: the W because I honestly think if we go back

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Speaker 4: out there were Tim Boyle, if we go back out

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Speaker 4: there where Skyler Thompson, it's going to be really really

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Speaker 4: ugly for Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's my things that yesterday Tyreek was the

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Speaker 1: leading receiver three catches for forty yards on five targets.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know how they move the ball

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Speaker 1: with either Skyler Thompson or Tim Boyle.

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Speaker 2: May maybe Tyler Huntley helped save the day. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's bleak.

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Speaker 1: It's really bleak until two it comes back to this

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Speaker 1: off it's it is nasty, nasty work. Uh, let's go

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Speaker 1: to Baltimore. Because Week one it was Isaiah Likely. Week two,

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, week three, Mark Andrews was on a

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Speaker 1: milk carton, which, by the way, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they still put people on the side of milk cartons.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's a reference that's probably dated and

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Speaker 1: no one knows what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: He was missing.

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Speaker 1: Basically, let's just say that, lakwan, how how much longer

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Speaker 1: can we give it? With the Ravens side ends, specifically

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Speaker 1: Mark Andrews. I mean, at some point we got to

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Speaker 1: cut the cord, don't we.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's about that time he hits the bench

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Speaker 4: comfortably to where like, man, they can't really figure out

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Speaker 4: what's gonna be, what who's gonna be? Who likely is

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Speaker 4: still heavily involved in this offense as well. So I'm

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Speaker 4: looking at Mark Andrews, like, look, it's already bad out

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Speaker 4: here in these fantasy streets for a tight end. So

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Speaker 4: I'm over here looking for a Tyler Conklin, I'm over

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Speaker 4: here looking for a Cole command I'm over here looking

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Speaker 4: for John new Smith. And you know, it's like really

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Speaker 4: really bad to have a Mark Andrews. You know, price

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Speaker 4: tag will be spent on him in the summer, but

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Speaker 4: it's more so like I'm gonna sit until he pops

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Speaker 4: we just need to see something from this Ravens offense

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Speaker 4: with Mark Andrews as the focal point.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm wondering, Like, is there more there than

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Speaker 1: the Ravens have let on? I mean, they they definitely

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Speaker 1: downplayed it after he got in the car accident in

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Speaker 1: training camp. You know, obviously we don't know anything for sure,

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Speaker 1: but he ran four routes fo Or there's one more

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Speaker 2: Something is happening with Mark Andrews and we don't know what.

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Speaker 4: I ran more routes to the trash can today.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I am giving them one more week though they

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Speaker 3: play the Bills next week. Bills strength is their secondary,

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Speaker 3: their weaknesses their linebackers. If this is not the matchup

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Speaker 3: where these guys are utilized, then then I'm hitting the

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Speaker 3: panic button. But given the state of tight end in

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Speaker 3: the matchup and all that, I'm willing to give them

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Speaker 3: one more job.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of h the panic button, Florida, you are a

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Speaker 1: noted Rashad White detractor.

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Speaker 2: We're around the campfire.

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Speaker 1: Is that Bucky Irving has earned more snaps in the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay offense. Is it time to maybe think about setting.

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Speaker 2: Up a conscious uncoupling with Rashad White on your fantasy roster? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I do think so because you go back two years ago,

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Speaker 3: Leonard Fournette and Rashad White were up there. I think

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Speaker 3: they were both the top two and least amount of

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Speaker 3: rushing yards over expectation, in fact, most negative rushing yards

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Speaker 3: over expectation. And then last year Rashad White led the

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Speaker 3: league in that once again fewest yards over expectation, however

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Speaker 3: you want to word it the most negative. And then

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Speaker 3: you look at what he's done this year. His touches

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Speaker 3: have decreased from fifteen carries to ten to just six.

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Speaker 3: The targets. Week one he had six, which was great,

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Speaker 3: but since then he has seven targets and he has

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Speaker 3: turned them into twenty three yards. Bucky Irving is clearly

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Speaker 3: the better runner. I want to see if the Bucks

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Speaker 3: will give Bucky Irving a chance as a pass catcher,

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Speaker 3: because that is something we know he can do from

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Speaker 3: his college profile. But so far in the NFL, the

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Speaker 3: bulk of all these targets have gone to Rashad White.

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Speaker 3: So if now Bucky's already eating into the groundwork. If

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Speaker 3: just make Rashad White a fringe like flex option kind

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Speaker 3: of running back. I'm not saying he's there yet, but

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Speaker 3: that is the direction we are trending in, and I

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Speaker 3: certainly think he is a sit next week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you can't drop him yet, right Lakwan.

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Speaker 1: I mean you probably spent too much draft capital on him.

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Speaker 1: You can't drop him, But he's getting harder to start

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Speaker 2: It is hard to start him.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at his seventy percent snap opportunities not making

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Speaker 4: I mean two point one yards per carry. That is

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Speaker 4: real nasty work for a guy like young Bucky Irvin

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Speaker 4: that can really get it done on the ground. That's

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Speaker 4: doing six point two yards per carry what only thirty

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Speaker 4: three percent of the snaps. So he's making the best

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Speaker 4: of every opportunity as and he simply just looks better

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Speaker 4: in the trenches. He looks better at making the right

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Speaker 4: decisions of what gap to hit in that old line.

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Speaker 4: Like at first I was thinking maybe the old line

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Speaker 4: of these runs that Rashad White has in between the tackles,

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Speaker 4: He's like he's running right into his old lineman like

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Speaker 4: every single time. And Bucky Irvin's just floating through the trenches.

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Speaker 4: He's like dancing so so gentle through the trenches and

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Speaker 4: it's just like he's getting upfield. So I think he

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Speaker 4: needs more opportunities, and I think he earned these opportunities.

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Speaker 4: If this is what you know, the rumors are in

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Speaker 4: the fantasy streets that Bucky Irvin might be a thing.

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Speaker 2: He definitely looks like a thing for sure.

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Speaker 1: You look at the last couple of weeks for Rashad White,

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Speaker 1: twenty three Scrimmage Yards in week two, thirty five Scrimmage

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Speaker 1: Yards in week three. Got a rookie. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: the word I was looking for. There it is, He's

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Speaker 1: got a rookie breathing down his neck, getting ready to.

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Speaker 2: Take his job.

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's dive into some deep waiver wire options.

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Speaker 2: We had the regular waiver wire on the Monday Show.

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Speaker 1: You can go check that out if you subscribe as

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Speaker 1: you should, I should show up in your feed. But

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Speaker 1: the LaQuan if we are diving a little bit deeper

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Speaker 1: on the waivers, this week.

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Speaker 2: Who are we looking at.

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Speaker 4: Listen, this is a name that I've been saying for

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Speaker 4: a couple of weeks and hopefully some people are going

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Speaker 4: out there to go get him. It's Wandell Robinson. Man,

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Speaker 4: this is a deep dive for a guy that can

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Speaker 4: fill in for some of these bye weeks that are

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Speaker 4: on the way. They're coming very soon, the bye weeks

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Speaker 4: will be here, and you want a guy like Wandell

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Speaker 4: Robinson who has some type of volume, who has some

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Speaker 4: type of target share. He had a second game with

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Speaker 4: over twenty percent plus target share, and he's a solid

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Speaker 4: low end wide receiver two that could definitely help out

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Speaker 4: with injuries right now at the wide receiver position in

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Speaker 4: very short close to the line of scrimmage for Daniel

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Speaker 4: Jones when Malik Neighbors is not available, he's going to

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Speaker 4: be looking for a security bloying Sae Kwon Barkley's not there,

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Speaker 4: so that checkdown now transfers to Wanda Robinson, who's a

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Speaker 4: those extra yards that you're looking for that you can't

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Speaker 4: get with your wide receiver one.

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Speaker 2: And Melik Neighbors.

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Speaker 1: Now he's a wide receiver three right now. Sure, he's

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver thirty two.

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Speaker 2: I like him.

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Speaker 1: I picked him up, I drafted him actually a couple

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Speaker 1: of spots, just because the targets are gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna be as spectacular and downfield as Moligue Neighbors,

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Speaker 1: but they're there, and that's kind of the important part,

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Speaker 1: especially if you're looking for somebody off the waiver wire.

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Speaker 1: Sneak peek into what my my sleeper's column is gonna be. Florio,

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Speaker 1: your guy here on the deep waiver wire's gonna He's

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Speaker 1: gonna make an appearance in the sleepers column this week

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Speaker 1: for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Lakwan, you might want to cover your ears. But

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Speaker 3: Michael Wilson looks like the wide receiver two in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: He he doesn't come off the field.

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Speaker 2: He run.

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Speaker 3: He's already been top two amongst the receivers and snaps

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Speaker 3: and routes. But two games in a row now he

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Speaker 3: has had more targets than Greg Dortch as well. I

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Speaker 3: know it was only two in week two, but nine

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Speaker 3: had thought. I know, you guys as well. Thought was

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Speaker 3: like shaping up to be a week for Greg Dortch.

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Speaker 3: They were trailing, the Lions have had struggles against slot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, we have to talk about dorch Land. It

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Speaker 2: Either way, both of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Darnell Mooney is getting the ball a ton in the

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Speaker 1: But if this is what it's gonna be, we got

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Speaker 2: This one may sound like it's just so left field.

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Speaker 4: But I have a lot of Dalton Schultz, and I

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Speaker 2: So we got to break up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I stood away for Dalton Schultz kind of for

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Speaker 3: I write about weekly as a.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, uh for you Florio, I'm gonna just

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna quote the great Sean Carter grand opening, grand closing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Look after week one, when he had the seven targets,

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Speaker 3: Let's see what this offense looks like without Cooper and

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Speaker 3: it really just looks like Kien Williams are busted from

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I have just.

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Speaker 3: Decided to wash my hands clean of this Rams offense

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Speaker 1: I mean, part of what made what kept the Niners

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Speaker 1: I mean, Sean McVay was in his bag on Sunday

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Speaker 1: For me, it's Ezekiel Elliott. It's it's time. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, bruh, yes, you really, Jerry Jones, come on, man, like,

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Speaker 1: through Zeke, ric O'dowdell, Deuce Vaughan. It's a bad situation there. Zeke,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, guys. I don't think there's any running

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Speaker 1: That's kind of it for Cowboys I have any interest

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Speaker 2: No, I mean Jalen Tober.

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Speaker 4: It looked good with his opportunities, but I don't trust

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Speaker 2: I need to see it on a week of basis.

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Speaker 3: There is two good weeks in a row though for Tober.

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Speaker 2: Him this week, all right, So maybe there's one more.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's something else, but the run game.

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Speaker 1: Football Podcast. They happy, safe and healthy, do good and

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Speaker 1: live well. Enjoy the week, everybody. We will talk to

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