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Speaker 1: I like the Buck Guys by ten Oregon, Slide, upset,

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Speaker 1: usc comfortable, Jamat. I want to start with something today.

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Speaker 1: We don't until we get to October. We don't lead

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Speaker 1: with a lot of baseball. Baseball regular seasons are long,

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Speaker 1: but last night my childhood favorite, the Seattle Mariners, clinched

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Speaker 1: the playoff spot, and they've got some interesting components. But

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Speaker 1: Rob Manfred and a lot of people in baseball have

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Speaker 1: been worried about baseball. The payroll gap is scary, and

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Speaker 1: I do believe the payroll gap matters in the regular season,

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Speaker 1: but once you get to the playoffs, you don't know

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen. No sport is weirder and quirkier

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Speaker 1: than Major League Baseball. It's been a great year for

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Speaker 1: The La Dodgers blew another game last night. Yeah, Otani

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Speaker 1: another game. It's been that kind of year, and that's

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Speaker 1: what money doesn't buy you health. They've got a bad bullpen.

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Speaker 1: It blew another game last night. Mookie Bett started the

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Speaker 1: in September, but they've dealt with a lot of injuries,

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Speaker 1: mow money Mo problems. They're on track for their worst

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Speaker 1: record in six years. For the record, the small market

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Speaker 1: Brewers I think win the World Series. Small market San

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Speaker 1: The American Lead League Division leaders are the Mariners, Cleveland

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Speaker 1: it's the nil for college football, AI in business, or

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Speaker 1: big payrolls in baseball. So many people are neurotic, anxiety

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Speaker 1: filled fatalists. Take a deep breath. It's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 1: Even my Mariners. They've got Cal Rawley, so they had

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Speaker 1: They've got a great closer if they have a lead

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Speaker 1: late Andres Muno's and they had the best rotation er

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Speaker 1: in baseball last year and it's still good this year.

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Speaker 1: The Seattle Mariners, believe it or not, could win the

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Speaker 1: World Series. Yes they could. What's true in sports always

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Speaker 1: is that money never ever decides everything. For the million

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Speaker 1: freaking out when Luca ended up with the Lakers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they got eliminated in the first round. Small market OKC

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Speaker 1: It's exhausting. The world's not going to end except for

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Speaker 4: I just see just careful, the getting behind, the walking guys,

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Speaker 1: And Carson Wentz wasn't that long ago in Indianapolis twenty

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Speaker 1: When he's got good players around him, you can win

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Speaker 1: a lot of games with Carson Wentz and JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 1: literally the same advice. Whatever works immediately, doubled down on it,

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Speaker 1: in love with your draft picks. You can tell often

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Speaker 1: in camp, Oh that didn't look good. He's smaller than

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Speaker 1: he's got a bad temper. Stuff is unveiled in camp

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Speaker 1: for offense. So it's nothing against JJ McCarthy. He may

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure there is a coach in the league,

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Speaker 5: mentor he has such a unique quality where yes he

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Speaker 5: has the x's and o's, yes he has the schematic advantage,

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Speaker 1: Minnesota is the play, as you knock down at Guinness

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Speaker 6: But a quick point on your Wentz versus McCarthy thing.

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Speaker 6: A Vikings buddy of mine said, Hey, you got to

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Speaker 6: tell Colin. One huge difference that Wentz had that McCarthy didn't,

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Speaker 6: and that's left tackle Christian darrisol. He missed the first

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Speaker 1: I said about brock Perty. He doesn't. He's not as

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Speaker 1: good about Christian McCaffrey. Well, Christian McCaffrey gets hurt. So

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Speaker 1: you have to be good despite not having a star

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Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert, Rashaun Slater's out the Pro Bowl. Left tackle.

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Speaker 1: Herbert's having his best year. Ye, people can always say,

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Speaker 6: Herbert is a fifth year superstar in this league. Top

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Speaker 6: six quarterback. JJ McCarthy's got two stars. We need to

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Speaker 6: give the kid a chance. And I'm just I know,

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Speaker 6: I'm all in, and it's maybe a bad move by me. Listen,

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Speaker 6: I've been wrong before.

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Speaker 1: Her show does not cancel culture quarterbacks. I'm not say

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Speaker 1: All I'm saying is I said before the show. I

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Speaker 1: said it Friday, you are here, I said Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: today is better than JJ McCarthy. However, whatever it takes

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Speaker 1: and it's not fair. But Carson wentz with this group,

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Speaker 1: there wouldn't be a massive gap. Although Jordan loves better.

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Speaker 1: What I saw seven of the eight quarters with McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: you have to play who wins Sunday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right, I mean, but to win now, Remember

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Speaker 1: There are no perfect teams in the NFL. The Eagles

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Speaker 6: Their offense is a Niemik twenty first in scoring Colin.

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Speaker 6: All right, your boy, bo Nicks, we need to have

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Speaker 1: I would give up one of my tight ends and

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Speaker 1: This would be good stuff. A decade in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that's the way to frame this entire game.

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Speaker 7: I'd expect I'm not expecting him to win the game.

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Speaker 7: his first three games. Now he's thrown at like thirty

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Speaker 7: eight pass attempts a game, and he's showing this offense

431
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Speaker 7: really is built on his arm. He's got you know,

432
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Speaker 7: over seventy percent completions seven touchdowns, So they're leaning on him,

433
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Speaker 7: and he's playing the most confident I've ever seen him play.

434
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Speaker 7: He's decisive, and then you get the splash plays that

435
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Speaker 7: we used to get, even when he first took the

436
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Speaker 7: field as a rookie, when they weren't even expecting.

437
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Speaker 3: Him to play all those years ago.

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Speaker 7: You still see the plays they played, rolling to the left,

439
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Speaker 7: you know, arm, you know, kind of halfway three quarter

440
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Speaker 7: side arm around a player to his guy in the

441
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Speaker 7: end zone. I mean, there's not many humans on the

442
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Speaker 7: planet who can even come close to executing that throw.

443
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Speaker 3: So he's he's in rare form right now.

444
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Speaker 7: And you know, the rushing attack has kind of taken

445
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Speaker 7: a backseat, and everything flows through the quarterback.

446
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Speaker 1: As you know, the opinion of a quarterback in this

447
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Speaker 1: league can change with a bad half. It's unfair. But

448
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Speaker 1: you know, the media is loud. It's the one sport

449
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Speaker 1: in America everybody watches. I always like Carson Wentz and

450
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Speaker 1: then the late great Jim Rsay he had a bad

451
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Speaker 1: game in Jacksonville and said get him out of here,

452
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Speaker 1: and it's like time out. He had twenty seven touchdowns

453
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Speaker 1: something bigs. It was really really good. And in Philadelphia

454
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Speaker 1: he got hurt. He was going to be MVP. I

455
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Speaker 1: could pull him out. I think right now today I

456
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Speaker 1: couldn't pull him out if I was the Vikings.

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Speaker 7: What say you, Well, the biggest stat that I saw

458
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Speaker 7: and I had to look at my phone for this

459
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Speaker 7: because this came up in a group chat. But the

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Speaker 7: Minnesota Vikings are fifteen and three when Kevin O'Connell has

461
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Speaker 7: a ginger starting at quarterback. So eighty three point three

462
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Speaker 7: three percent, that's all I know. But on a serious note,

463
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Speaker 7: you know he provides stability. Well, JJ McCarthy is developing

464
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Speaker 7: and coming back from an injury. You know, he just

465
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Speaker 7: kept it steady. And Kevin O'Connell clearly knows how to

466
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Speaker 7: communicate with this quarterback.

467
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Speaker 3: He gives you, you know, your.

468
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Speaker 7: Expectations, his expectations, finds a way to merge the two.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think.

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Speaker 7: You know, Kevin made the comment in his press conference said, hey,

471
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Speaker 7: you know, as soon as JJ's healthy, it's not just okay,

472
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Speaker 7: he's gonna he's playing tomorrow. I think if Wentz keeps winning,

473
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Speaker 7: there's no reason to pull him. And it's really about

474
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Speaker 7: the timing of McCarthy's transition and reassimilation back as the starter.

475
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Speaker 7: But as long as this guy's playing well. I got

476
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Speaker 7: no issues with number eleven starting for the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: I always like Sam Darnold. I think you did too,

478
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Speaker 1: But I do think I said this. I think Sam

479
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Speaker 1: needs structure. I think his DNA he's a little reckless,

480
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Speaker 1: so he does need structure. Like we're gonna throw it

481
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Speaker 1: twenty eight times, We're gonna lean on that run game,

482
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Speaker 1: and that's not a knock outside of Josh Allen, the

483
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Speaker 1: whole world does. So. I like what Seattle has created

484
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Speaker 1: for him.

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Speaker 3: What do you see? Well, I think you're exactly right.

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Speaker 7: I think he's right around the twenty nine to thirty

487
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Speaker 7: ish number of attempts per game, a lot more towards

488
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Speaker 7: the later half of last year when he was in

489
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Speaker 7: Minnesota starting for the Vikings. But that's okay. They have

490
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Speaker 7: a two headed rushing attack in Zach Charboney and Kenneth Walker.

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Speaker 7: Their offensive line is still starting to gel, and especially

492
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Speaker 7: those interior guys. Remember they've gone through some turnover at

493
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Speaker 7: the center position and then some young guards really stepping in.

494
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Speaker 7: So the easiest thing to get continuity for your offensive

495
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Speaker 7: lineman is to let him fire off the ball and

496
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Speaker 7: establish the run game. Now Sam knows how to get

497
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Speaker 7: in and out of good runs. And if there's no

498
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Speaker 7: way to run the ball, he's going to find a quick,

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Speaker 7: easy throw. And oh, by the way, he's got a

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Speaker 7: heck of a slot receiver in Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Smith and Jaco.

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Speaker 7: This guy, Yeah, he's turned into an absolute superstar.

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Speaker 3: And you saw it in college.

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Speaker 7: You saw it flashes of it a little bit as

505
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Speaker 7: a rookie. Remember he started his rookie year he broke

506
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Speaker 7: his wrist and just wasn't quite sure, didn't quite get

507
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Speaker 7: his footing. And then last year and especially this year,

508
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Speaker 7: he's absolutely exploded. And then you see big Leonard Williams.

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Speaker 7: I mean, just add him to the list of New

510
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Speaker 7: York Giants that suddenly leave the New York Giants and

511
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Speaker 7: then become superstars somewhere else. It's don't forget about my

512
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Speaker 7: man Danny Dimes. He's balling out too in Indy. We

513
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Speaker 7: got those guys in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yep. So we'll get to the Jags Niners game. I

515
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Speaker 1: like San Francisco in that one, you know, when quarterbacks

516
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Speaker 1: come out. Mark Mark Sanchez for our radio audience, I

517
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Speaker 1: usually have a comp okay, who is he I thought,

518
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Speaker 1: I thought Sam Donald came out, I said, he's not

519
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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, but he's a little Andrew Lucky's big, he's tough,

520
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Speaker 1: he can be a little reckless, but he's a playmaker.

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Speaker 1: I never had one for Baker. I thought he was

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Speaker 1: a little cocky, he was a little emotional. I didn't

523
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Speaker 1: really he was like, I don't know what he is,

524
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Speaker 1: and here he is all these years later and I'm

525
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Speaker 1: genuinely happy crushing it.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of his development? Well, just add

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Speaker 3: him to the list.

528
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Speaker 7: Daniel Jones, Sam Donald, Carson Wentz, all these guys who

529
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Speaker 7: end up in other places, and they still have plenty

530
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Speaker 7: of tread left on the tires.

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Speaker 3: They just got to get to the right fit.

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Speaker 7: And I think we're realizing that the fit in the

533
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Speaker 7: scheme is more important than the slot.

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Speaker 3: And so he's playing so well.

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Speaker 7: He's got that fire and intensity that he plays with.

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Speaker 7: You know, maybe early on people thought always just cocky,

537
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Speaker 7: always just a young kid. He's Immature's this that's truly

538
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Speaker 7: his authentic self. He is an absolute psycho on the field,

539
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Speaker 7: and he has to temper that a little bit.

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Speaker 3: We actually had him on.

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Speaker 7: Our show on Rearview NFL and Fox Presents Rearview and we.

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Speaker 3: Talked to him yesterday.

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Speaker 7: It comes out today, and he's one of my favorite

544
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Speaker 7: guys to talk to. He's a guys guy. You want

545
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Speaker 7: him leading your offense. You want to go have a

546
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Speaker 7: beer with the guy. He's funny, he'll make you laugh,

547
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Speaker 7: he can get serious. He genuinely cares about his teammates.

548
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Speaker 7: And I think you see all that through the interview.

549
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Speaker 7: And one of my favorite questions that I got to

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Speaker 7: ask him, I just said, has anybody reminded you that

551
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Speaker 7: the last two coordinators you had in Tampa are now coaches?

552
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Speaker 7: I mean, you got those guys a lot of money.

553
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Speaker 7: He did, Dave can Allis and Liam Cohen. Those are

554
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Speaker 7: two head coaches now in the NFL. I said, do

555
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Speaker 7: you get any Christmas gifts? Do you get a holiday card?

556
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Speaker 7: Are they send any wine? Cigars? Something? And he goes,

557
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Speaker 7: you know, that's a good point. I don't think they are.

558
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Speaker 7: I said, well, don't forget about that, buddy, Yeah, don't

559
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Speaker 7: forget about that, because you're putting people on the map,

560
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Speaker 7: and when people around you are doing well, that obviously

561
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Speaker 7: says something about your own performance.

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Speaker 3: So Baker's having a heck of the year.

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Speaker 1: So I think ten years ago, if you didn't have

564
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Speaker 1: a good first run, there weren't as many great offensive

565
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Speaker 1: coaches around in the league and your career could be over.

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Speaker 3: It was brutal.

567
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Speaker 1: But we're seeing Gino and Sam and Baker, and I

568
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Speaker 1: gotta be honest, Mac Jones, we needed he'd been buried,

569
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, yeah, he did make a Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You got tape. I'll be honest. I when I watched

571
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Speaker 1: them at New Orleans, I'm like, they're asking him to

572
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Speaker 1: throw forty times. They're not like handing the ball off.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised by him?

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Speaker 7: I really was surprised by that approach in New Orleans.

575
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Speaker 7: But they just couldn't get the run game established. That's

576
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Speaker 7: a really tough stout New Orleans front. They've been built

577
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Speaker 7: on stopping the run for a long time now and

578
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Speaker 7: that doesn't look like it's changing. So that was kind

579
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Speaker 7: of the game plan to go win the game. But

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Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure he was the offensive rookie of the year,

581
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Speaker 7: I want to say in New England, but either way,

582
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Speaker 7: they asked him to do a lot. He gets banged

583
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Speaker 7: up in the last game against Arizona and for the

584
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Speaker 7: viewers who didn't see this game, it was just a

585
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Speaker 7: rock fight back and forth.

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Speaker 3: It's like six to six.

587
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Speaker 7: The teams are trading field goals and we're in the

588
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Speaker 7: booth like, oh man, that'd be nice if a football

589
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Speaker 7: game decided to break out here.

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Speaker 3: And all of a sudden it did.

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Speaker 7: It just exploded in the last quarter and a half

592
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Speaker 7: of the game. But one of the big plays, the

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Speaker 7: biggest play of the game from scrimmage at thirty four

594
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Speaker 7: yard reception from Ricky Piersoll, who's really emerged for this

595
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Speaker 7: team yea for the forty nine ers as a receiver.

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Speaker 7: You gotta watch this. I mean it doesn't look like

597
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Speaker 7: much from the jump. Okay, ho home, nice throw whatever, Colin.

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Speaker 7: This is fourth and two. Okay, fourth and two. Look

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Speaker 7: at the quarterback in the center, normally the center brendle.

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Speaker 7: He's usually at the apex of the flying V. Right,

601
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Speaker 7: he's usually upfront, touching the ball first, getting everybody set up,

602
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Speaker 7: you know, pointing out the mic. So something's fishy here,

603
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Speaker 7: something's off, and watch what they do.

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Speaker 3: Key Troll. Clark's playing corner.

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Speaker 7: He's rotating in and out, back and forth throughout this

606
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Speaker 7: game and as soon as the center touches the ball,

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Speaker 7: it's a quick snap. It's like a sucker snap, almost

608
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Speaker 7: like a sucker punch, and as soon as his fingertips

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Speaker 7: touch it, he just throws it to mac Jones. That's

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Speaker 7: why he waited so long to let everybody gets set up.

611
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Speaker 7: Key Troll Clark is out of position. Mac Jones realizes

612
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Speaker 7: this safety is got to fly over and help over

613
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Speaker 7: the top. I got one on one on the outside.

614
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Speaker 7: Let me just drop this thing in a red solo

615
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Speaker 7: cup like I'm at a carnival. I mean, this is

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Speaker 7: unbelievable by Ricky Pearsall also because there's two ways to

617
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Speaker 7: go on this and mac Jones has to throw a

618
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Speaker 7: perfect ball. He underthrows it a hair just slightly, and

619
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Speaker 7: Ricky Piersall does a little David Tyree off the helmet

620
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Speaker 7: and catches this football.

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Speaker 3: I mean, asking him to do that on a fourth

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Speaker 3: and two. And I don't know if he noticed.

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Speaker 7: He's also wearing a knee brace because he got hurt

624
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Speaker 7: the drive before.

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Speaker 3: He missed.

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Speaker 7: He almost missed a handoff trying to stretch the ball

627
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Speaker 7: that's supposed to go outside to McCaffrey the drive before

628
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Speaker 7: because his knees all messed up, and then he pulls

629
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Speaker 7: off this trick shot on fourth and two. So yes,

630
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Speaker 7: he went home with the plushy and he went home

631
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Speaker 7: with a million tickets from the fair because this one

632
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Speaker 7: basically changed the course of the game and ended up

633
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Speaker 7: helping him win. The job of a backup quarterback is

634
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Speaker 7: to go in and win half your starts. He had

635
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Speaker 7: two starts, he won them both. So I love where

636
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Speaker 7: mac Jones is at. Now it's hey, are we looking

637
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Speaker 7: to trade this guy? Do we go get Hendrickson and

638
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 7: replace Bosa on our team and send mac Jones to

639
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Speaker 7: the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I'm just trying to figure out something there because that

642
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 7: defense needs a little help now that Bosa's gone.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, that game is a classic example

644
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Speaker 1: of how basically they got a safety, Arizona got the

645
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Speaker 1: ball picked up a first down. How did at midfield

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Speaker 1: I thought the game was over. I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: it's over and boom. It's amazing this league so many

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Speaker 1: games were to sign up by a single play in

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Speaker 1: the last two and a half minutes.

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Speaker 7: Also, think about this, find somebody in the stats department

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Speaker 7: to look this one up. But They won Arizona one

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Speaker 7: time at possession, they won rushing attempts plus completions, they

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Speaker 7: won the turnover battle, and they outrun rushed San Francisco.

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Speaker 7: It is so hard to lose a game when you

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Speaker 7: check all those boxes as a team, it's nearly impossible.

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Speaker 7: I'd like to say it's less than five percent chance,

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Speaker 7: but I want somebody in stats to figure that one out.

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Speaker 7: That's way above my pay grade.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, green Bay, same thing, had it one suddenly they

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Speaker 1: did it. It takes all bad. It's just the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Mark Sandez is always buddy, great stuff.