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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show. Some good news concerning

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Speaker 1: Devon Kannard and Byron Murphy, but they will not play

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Speaker 1: is Marcus Golden. He is certainly excited to be back.

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Speaker 1: We've got his comments. Also to the league's more talented

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks will be on display this Sunday. Kyler Murray and

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Speaker 1: won't be the last time they share the same stage.

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Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode three forty four, and it

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Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolew

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Speaker 1: and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyunday,

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Speaker 1: Visit acy Cardinals dot Com Slash Podcasts. Murray rolls to

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Speaker 1: the right, throws your site defense pot. He he's into

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Speaker 1: the ens. After the touchdown, here's Craig Grielou and Mike Jarecki.

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Speaker 1: So this NJ is when you know you are locked

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Speaker 1: in and completely focused on the task at hand. Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray earlier today asked what it felt like with the

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Speaker 1: team having the number one offense anna league. Now, this

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Speaker 1: is offense in terms of yards per game? Asked that question.

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Speaker 1: Murray kind of took a step back and looked to

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Speaker 1: his left in the direction of Chris Melvin, the media

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Speaker 1: relations director, and said, is that real? And then answered

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Speaker 1: the question. Now. Our colleague Lisa Matthews had an interview

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Speaker 1: after practice with Chase Edmonds, and moments ago, she tweeted

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Speaker 1: out the following that Edmonds quote had no clue. The

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Speaker 1: cards currently have the number one offense in the league.

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Speaker 1: That I think speaks volumes because as much as we

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Speaker 1: what you would expect from Murray, he said he doesn't

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Speaker 1: through the schedule and they need to get better. And

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Speaker 1: his reaction was priceless, like it always is when you

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Speaker 1: I find out today, you know, the Red Sea Report

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Speaker 1: that's not a season. You're not even halfway through the

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Speaker 1: the addition of DeAndre Hopkins, the offensive line actually improved

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know should we start mentioning you're

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Speaker 1: every team if they say we win our division, Craig,

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Speaker 1: Let's first focus on Canard. You lose an outside linebacker,

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Speaker 1: in the pockets? So fascinating, But you know from the

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Speaker 1: from the Cardinal standpoint, they should be able to, you know,

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Speaker 1: get him off his spot and hopefully they face him

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Speaker 1: third and lungs because that's where you can tee off

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Speaker 1: a little bit. One last note on this topic because

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Speaker 1: it deserves to be mentioned in something to keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on when it comes to that slot corner, because

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Speaker 1: Drake Kirkpatrick did not practice today a d NP because

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Speaker 1: of a thigh injury. And we know he's been banged

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Speaker 1: up on and off the practice field and on and

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Speaker 1: off the regular game field comes Sunday. So if he's

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Speaker 1: less than one hundred percent, maybe there's more of a rotation,

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Speaker 1: not just at slot corner MJ, but that player opposite

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Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson. Yeah, and that's where you think Bosby will

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Speaker 1: get an option. You know, he again, he's he's he's

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Speaker 1: on the practice field. I mean, where's number twenty five

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Speaker 1: Prince wears number thirty six, And getting back to Prince,

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00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting in Cardinals signed him in October fifteenth.

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Speaker 1: I know he was cut in training camp, but you

447
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Speaker 1: would think guys would keep in the shape. But hey,

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Speaker 1: he's on the practice squad. I think he's good insurance.

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Speaker 1: He definitely has played in a lot of games, so

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Speaker 1: that linkn help him. But at some point you got

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Speaker 1: to get the same guys out there in the chemistry,

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Speaker 1: the continuity, the communication. And I like the fact that

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Speaker 1: Jalen's coming back. Buddha obviously helps the calls. Dante is

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Speaker 1: much improved, not afraid to tackle, better in coverage, and

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Speaker 1: then Banjo's more of a guy that can play on teams,

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Speaker 1: but in a pinch, maybe you have him out there

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Speaker 1: because of his experience. And then obviously right now with

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Speaker 1: Murphy out, it's going to be some adjustment with the corners.

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Speaker 1: I wonder how much gamesmanship came into play with Kingsbury's

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Speaker 1: comments about Prince, and maybe I'm reading too much into it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the Maybe that's the truth that he's just

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Speaker 1: not quite ready, or you don't want to tip your

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Speaker 1: hand one way or the other, and then see that

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Speaker 1: transactions show up on Saturday, a day before the game,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the Dolphins have to

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Speaker 1: start looking at Prince Amukamara tape, not with the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: but his other stops along the way. So I especially

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Speaker 1: if Kirkpatrick won, if he's unable to go, then you

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Speaker 1: definitely have to make a move by someone from that

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Speaker 1: practice squad, whether it's Prince or whether it's Jason. But

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Speaker 1: that is again, we're Wednesday. I don't look too far

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Speaker 1: ahead when it comes to the injury report, and so

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Speaker 1: we get to Friday, and I don't think Kirkpatrick is

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Speaker 1: one of those players that we can say, hey, no

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Speaker 1: practice Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, good to go Sunday. He's not

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Speaker 1: in that DeAndre Hopkins category. No, and he's got to

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Speaker 1: play better. I mean, you play opposite of Patrick Peterson,

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Speaker 1: you know, I like to pick up early. I thought

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Speaker 1: he was playing well. Now I think he clearly, being

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Speaker 1: on the injury report and missing some of the practices,

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Speaker 1: he is playing through an injury. And I'm sure every

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Speaker 1: single guy's one hundred percent. But that was the boat.

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Speaker 1: The bye week was for it to kind of rest

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Speaker 1: up and you know, get your metals back in your

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Speaker 1: head to where you know you know, football is also

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Speaker 1: not physicality all the time. It's mental. So he's got

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Speaker 1: to be a better tackler in the open field. He's

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Speaker 1: got to tighten up his cupboards. But he's got to

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Speaker 1: be healthy. But I do get him credit trying to

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Speaker 1: grind through, But that position, I mean, it was all

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Speaker 1: subtled when him and he was playing on the outside

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Speaker 1: and Patrick was playing on the outside and Murphy was

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Speaker 1: playing on the inside. They had something going there. Burd Gang.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you update to the latest version of the

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Speaker 1: new redesign homescreen experience, visit asy cardinals dot com, slash

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Speaker 1: app or more. Also, if you haven't seen it's I

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Speaker 1: highly recommend the latest episode of Cardinals Flight Plan episode

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Speaker 1: six titled Raising the Bar. It dropped as they say, Saturday,

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Speaker 1: October thirty feet on the Arizona Cardinals official YouTube page,

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Speaker 1: YouTube dot com slash as Cardinals but some great behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes access and some exclusive interviews from owner Michael Bidwell,

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Speaker 1: general manager Steve Kime, quarterback Kyler Murray, and of course,

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Speaker 1: wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald talking about the first seven games

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Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty season. That's raising the bar. Episode

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Speaker 1: six of Season three Cardinals Flight Plan. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: focus a little bits kind of on the Dolphins more

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Speaker 1: coming up Thursday and Friday, but with respects to what

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Speaker 1: I think the storyline for most of America is going

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Speaker 1: to be for this Week nine matchup is the two quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and two A Tonga Bloa. It's two a

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Speaker 1: time and Jay, you're ready for this. His second career starts,

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00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: but his first on the road, and it will come

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Speaker 1: at State Farm Stadium. Yeah, let's rewind to the combine

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Speaker 1: because he obviously the medical is going to be the

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Speaker 1: big issue. I don't know if any teams to come

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Speaker 1: off the draft board him and his family and give

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Speaker 1: the University of Alabama a lot of credit. They were

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Speaker 1: with a helicopter him to the hospital. He had surgery

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Speaker 1: right away, he rehabbed there, his family moved in with him,

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Speaker 1: so they did everything they were supposed to do. Now

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Speaker 1: there's talk at the combine whether he dropped or not,

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Speaker 1: depending on which quarterback you liked in the draft, was

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Speaker 1: he should red shirt this year? He shouldn't play at

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Speaker 1: all because It's not like he's only had knee issues.

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Speaker 1: He's had shoulder issues, he's had ankle issues, he's had

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Speaker 1: you know, he's a small he has a small guy,

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Speaker 1: but a very effective thrower. We haven't seen a left

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Speaker 1: handed quarterback since Kellen Moore in the NFL. So, but

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Speaker 1: that was the thought process. Now they never said that though,

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Speaker 1: So they let's Fitzpatrick and then they obviously had Rosen

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Speaker 1: there and clearly you know they two was your future.

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Speaker 1: So they get off to a three and three start,

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Speaker 1: and then they must have saw something in practice, going Okay,

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Speaker 1: we can compete with the Bills. We're going to compete

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Speaker 1: with the Patriots this year. So I don't know what's transferred,

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Speaker 1: but the talk of the combine was he shouldn't see

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Speaker 1: the field this year. But they have more intelan we do.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the biggest thing was this guy has

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Speaker 1: been injured and the NFL, you're gonna take some hits.

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Speaker 1: Not like RG three or Deshaun Watson, but he's gonna

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Speaker 1: take some hits. So I was a little surprised, But

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Speaker 1: when you look at it, he's the future and they

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Speaker 1: got to know what they have in him. And I

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Speaker 1: think they know so now the matchup is Ta and

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, and they got some history there too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is round three if you will, as far as

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Speaker 1: head to head matchups, one on the field, one off

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Speaker 1: the field, and this Sunday will once again be on

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Speaker 1: the field. But they first met in the Orange Bowl,

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Speaker 1: the college football playoff semi final between Alabama and Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: on December twenty nine, twenty eighteen. Two of got the

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Speaker 1: better of Murray that day for thirty four. Both though,

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Speaker 1: had very good numbers as far as individual statistics. Murray

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Speaker 1: four hundred and seventeen total yards, three total touchdowns to

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Speaker 1: three hundred and eighteen passing yards and four touchdowns, So

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Speaker 1: advantage too on the field. Off the field, they finished

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Speaker 1: one two and the Heisman Trophy voting that season, and

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Speaker 1: you look at the numbers between these two, it's fascinating

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Speaker 1: how close, especially when it comes to passing marks. The

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Speaker 1: one big difference with Murray though, and this might have

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Speaker 1: tipped it in his favor in terms of the overall

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Speaker 1: voting and Murray walking away with Heisman Trophy. Just the

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Speaker 1: rushing totals one thousand one yards compared to one hundred

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Speaker 1: and ninety twelve rushing touchdowns compared to five four two

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Speaker 1: us SO. And we heard from Kyler Murray earlier today.

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Speaker 1: They spent a lot of time on the banquet circuit,

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Speaker 1: the families got to know each other, and Murray could

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Speaker 1: not say anything more than just how nice not only

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Speaker 1: two it was, but his entire family. During that entire stretch,

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Speaker 1: that banquet circuit, you're seeing the same faces day in

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Speaker 1: and day out at different locations and different dinners. So

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Speaker 1: it's kind of naturally that you would gravitate towards one

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Speaker 1: another even though you're up for the same awards. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and really when you when you meet the to his

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Speaker 1: family to see him on interviews, they the nicest people

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Speaker 1: in the world. Then you see Kevin and Kyler's mom,

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Speaker 1: they're the nicest. And these guys were fortunate enough to

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Speaker 1: have two parents growing up. But there is so much

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Speaker 1: into their lives. I mean to when he when he

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Speaker 1: got in that game, he went back to that spot

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Speaker 1: and FaceTime his family when he was on the field.

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Speaker 1: Um So and his father's wanted taught him how to

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Speaker 1: throw a ball, you know, baseball in football at the

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Speaker 1: age of six. His father's his quarterbacks coach in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure his father watch his film. Um again, not

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Speaker 1: to step on anybody's toes, but like Kenyan Drake, you

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Speaker 1: listen to your mother, you listen to your father too.

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Speaker 1: So in the next sense, um, yeah, it's I hope

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Speaker 1: he could stay healthy. I think he's an exciting player.

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Speaker 1: He was dynamically Kyler Murray was in college. I mean

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Speaker 1: there were games you're like, how did he make that play?

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Speaker 1: And the difference was, as you pointed out, Kyler with

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Speaker 1: a rushing but his completion percentage and his quarterback rating

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Speaker 1: it was off the charts that year. Well, they both

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Speaker 1: finished with a sixty nine percent completion percentage. They were

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Speaker 1: within several hundred yards as far as passing their yards

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Speaker 1: per attempt Murray eleven point six to eleven point two.

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Speaker 1: And then the passer rating one ninety nine point two

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Speaker 1: compared to one ninety nine point four and two. I

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Speaker 1: had the advantage there, but it's just remarkable when you

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Speaker 1: just look at statistics and a passer rating led the

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Speaker 1: NC DOUBLEA. But I think, once again, why it was

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Speaker 1: Murray who walked off the stage with that award at night.

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Speaker 1: It's just the dual threat and the dynamics that Murray

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Speaker 1: shows the skill set because just as dangerous as he

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Speaker 1: is with the football in his hands when he takes

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Speaker 1: off and runs, he might be there might not be

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Speaker 1: any quarterback in the league that is comparable. Guys come close,

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Speaker 1: but it's just a different cat when it comes to

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray running the football well. And we know over

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Speaker 1: the years that the Alabama wide receivers are in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and you know, if you're saving, you're like you've got

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Speaker 1: to protect yourself, you know, and kind of live for

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Speaker 1: another place. So there must have been something because again,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't just had one injury, He's had multiple injuries.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm rooting for him from a standpoint,

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Speaker 1: not this Sunday, but just in general because I like

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Speaker 1: these young quarterbacks that can run, and you know that's

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Speaker 1: the trend, even though the pocket passer is still out there.

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Speaker 1: You know, Tom Brady will show you that and even

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Speaker 1: a guy like Matt Ryan. But I like a quarterback

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Speaker 1: to see. But he's got a bright future. They got

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Speaker 1: a ton of draft picks, they're building the right way,

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Speaker 1: They're changing the culture there. So I think Miami's on

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Speaker 1: the rise. I think Miami is what the Cardinals were

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Speaker 1: last year. They won games, though, so they had the

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Speaker 1: fifth pick in the draft when he got drafted. But

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Speaker 1: I think they're they're on the rise. And now that

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Speaker 1: Brady's out of that division, and you know Buffalo with

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Speaker 1: their quarterback, it's interesting if you start ranking the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in that division, two is going to be up there

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Speaker 1: within a year or two as one of the top

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the AFC East UF Seeing more and more teams,

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Speaker 1: MJ turned to young quarterbacks and turning to them quickly.

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Speaker 1: Tua waited until week seven, or I should say, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: week eight to actually start a ball game. But Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray the minute he heard his name announced by Commissioner

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Speaker 1: Roger Goodell, he was handed the keys to the city,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. He became the face of the franchise,

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Speaker 1: with all apologies to Larry Fitzgerald, and that I think

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Speaker 1: is one thing that sets Murray apart from everyone else.

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Speaker 1: He was the guy, and we've talked about it a

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Speaker 1: lot here on this show, and Kingsbury has brought it up.

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Speaker 1: But the pressure on the spotlight that was on Murray's

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Speaker 1: shoulders from day one is like anything else that I've

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Speaker 1: seen with fierro Zona Cardinals, and it might be hard

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Speaker 1: pressed to find anyone comparable around the NFL. Well, I

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Speaker 1: mean what teams are doing in the past, Craig, they

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Speaker 1: usually had a veteran quarterback. Example would be when the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals signed Sam Bradford and they had drafted Josh Rosen.

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Speaker 1: They signed Bradford in free agency, they drafted Rosen. They

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Speaker 1: had a break, you know, in the top three of

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Speaker 1: that class. And so Bradford starts the season and people

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Speaker 1: thought he was gonna get hurt, and he was benched

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Speaker 1: for lack of productivity. So Rosen store in there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you look at in Josh Allen. You know he got

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Speaker 1: a chance to play right away in Cleveland Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: he didn't start. Tyrod Taylor started their season there. I

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Speaker 1: want to say, Josh mccollull was in with the Jets

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Speaker 1: with Sam Darnell, but when Murphy checked his bags, well,

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Speaker 1: they fight in a Michael's private plane. So when they

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Speaker 1: got to the in Arizona, from day one, his first

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Speaker 1: footsteps in that building, here's the keys to the Ferrari.

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Speaker 1: Don't screw it up. Basically, I mean, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: you look at these guys that have been drafted in

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Speaker 1: the first round. Lamar Jackson, he didn't play until the

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Speaker 1: second half of the first season. Patrick Mahomes played in

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Speaker 1: Week seventeen, and then he sat behind Alex Smith askins

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Speaker 1: that they're already ready to replace him. You know, you

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Speaker 1: look at when David Carr was drafted. I mean, how

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Speaker 1: did his career turn out? When he was throwing the fire,

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Speaker 1: you know, Joey Harrington, Josh Freeman, rag three. The only

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Speaker 1: guys I say really passed the eye tests would drafted

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Speaker 1: and thrown in the mix was Andrew Luck. I think

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I think JaMarcus Russell was horrible. I mean

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Speaker 1: JaMarcus Russell. He I mean, he couldn't even basically read

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Speaker 1: a defense or figure things out just from a talent standpoint.

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Speaker 1: So I think we got to give Kyler Murray a

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Speaker 1: lot of credit here because team's draft now to play

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Speaker 1: right away. In the past, even Matt Leiner, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he had to compete with Kurt Warner, and for some

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Speaker 1: reason the whistle hunt opened up competition, which was ridiculous. Liner,

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Speaker 1: How did his career pan out? So the fact that

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Speaker 1: Murray's had the keys from day one. It's not a surprise.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think we really got into when he

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Speaker 1: wasn't passing very well for a couple of weeks there

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Speaker 1: about sophomore slump. No, this guy is the real deal.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if nobody gets enough credit to

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Speaker 1: the fact that he is the face of the franchise

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Speaker 1: and they're running an offense that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: didn't think would work in the NFL. Now they made adjustments.

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Speaker 1: Credit goes to the coaching staff, including the position coaches,

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Speaker 1: but the fact that he's had the keys of the

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Speaker 1: car and he's only shown improvement, and I think he'd

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Speaker 1: be up for Offensive Player of the Year if his

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Speaker 1: team gets to ten or eleven wins. Now you got

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Speaker 1: to put him in the MVP conversation. He usually comes

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Speaker 1: down the touchdowns versus interceptions, but his rushing will put

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Speaker 1: him in that conversation, so it doesn't get overlooked at me,

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Speaker 1: all the pressure he had. I mean, you want to say,

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Speaker 1: is he's the savior? But listen, this franchise is in

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Speaker 1: much better spot with the higher of Cliff Kingsbury and

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Speaker 1: Kylin Murray. The future looks bright. Well, Murray's trajectory has

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Speaker 1: steadily and sometimes there's been bigger increases in certain weeks.

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Speaker 1: But even when he doesn't have the accuracy and he's

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Speaker 1: only completing nine passes, well, he factored into that contest.

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Speaker 1: And I'm referring to the Monday night game against the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys because you have to account for his other

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Speaker 1: skill set, and that's being able to run the football

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Speaker 1: and affect defenses that way, and that is what I

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Speaker 1: think separates him from a Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they all can run the ball and throw it, but

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Speaker 1: it's just a little bit better of a runner. At

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Speaker 1: least in my opinion, that puts Kyle Murray ahead of

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Speaker 1: those two in terms of running the football. Now, if

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Speaker 1: you want to talk about arm strength then accuracy, then

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Speaker 1: maybe you go a little bit more towards Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: But Murray is getting to that point here in year

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Speaker 1: two where how much did we talk about year two

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Speaker 1: and we compared him, hey and year two Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: one MVP, Lamar Jackson one MVP, and you just brought

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Speaker 1: him up as far as Offensive Player of the Year

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Speaker 1: and potentially MVP candidate. But that means the Cardinals are winning,

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Speaker 1: and right now they are winning, so he deserves to

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Speaker 1: be in that mix. Yeah, I look at miss Terrbisky,

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Speaker 1: came out of left field. It took him second. Overall,

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Speaker 1: they're trying to bring in competition. They got Nick Foles there. Now.

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Speaker 1: I mean Jameis Winston was the first pick in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I remember when Vince Young was drafted. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he started right away. I think they had another quarterback there.

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Speaker 1: But you know, again, you look at these guys career,

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Speaker 1: and you know, guys like Blake Bortles and Ryan Tannehill.

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Speaker 1: Tannehill he panned out with another team because they have

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Speaker 1: a really good defense and they can run the ball.

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Speaker 1: Obviously they rely on their head coach's personality. So it's

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Speaker 1: interesting how these guys get these chances and then teams

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Speaker 1: are ready to replace them. Like it seems like the Jets,

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Speaker 1: if they get the first pick in the draft, are

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Speaker 1: they going to take another quarterback. So I'm just thrilled

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Speaker 1: that we're not in this boat, because we know if

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Speaker 1: you don't have one in the NFL, you got no chance.

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Speaker 1: And Kyler Murray, he's a gamer, he's a baller. When

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Speaker 1: he gets on the field. I feel like he thinks

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Speaker 1: he's the best player in the field, and regardless if

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Speaker 1: he is, that's the way he plays. Well. You left

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Speaker 1: that one quarterback in New York, and that's stay Darnald,

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Speaker 1: because everyone's talking about Daniel Jones perhaps being not quite

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Speaker 1: the guy and Darnald, I mean, you talk about a

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Speaker 1: roller coaster with respects to Murray in that tradectory going up.

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Speaker 1: Depending on who you talk to. The Jets might be

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Speaker 1: looking for a quarterback, is coming draft, and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you're looking like, oh, okay, well, knock on wood.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals don't have to worry about this for the next

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Speaker 1: ten fifteen years. Yeah, and you wonder if you had

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Speaker 1: to do over not say Chase Young's not going to

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Speaker 1: be a great player, but they put their eggs in

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Speaker 1: a basket with Dwayne Haskins and I mean he's not

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Speaker 1: playing right now, and then they have to go to

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith. I mean the Jets bringing Joe Flaccle. He's

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Speaker 1: got to play. Both of those were different reasons Haskins

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Speaker 1: was bench Donald got hurt. But these teams are looking

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Speaker 1: at it like can I build around this guy? Can

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Speaker 1: I win with him. We're not having that even that

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Speaker 1: know they can win with him, and that's all they've done.

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Speaker 1: Talking about with Baker Medfield for the next five years. Nope,

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Speaker 1: because as too, you don't even know what Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: week to week. Yeah, that's true. And they got a

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Speaker 1: new coach. And I mean, he's the first pick in

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Speaker 1: the draft, but John Dorsey drafted him kind of ansky

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Speaker 1: if he's not a quarterback guy. And you know that

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Speaker 1: he's worked with quarterbacks in the past in Minnesota. He's

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Speaker 1: got a great background. He doesn't tolerate, you know, miss

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Speaker 1: mental mistakes. Would you take I mean, Josh Allen to

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Speaker 1: me is one guy that got a chance to play

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Speaker 1: early and he succeeded. They made the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 1: But I can give you five names right now, and

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Speaker 1: I'd say, tell me where you think they're going to

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Speaker 1: be in five years. Are they gonna be Blake Bortles

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Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks somewhere? Are they gonna be m you know,

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Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert, who was you know, a high pick. Again,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals are in a great situation and I just

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Speaker 1: don't think it gets discussed enough when you hand the

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Speaker 1: cars to this guy, all the pressure and he has

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Speaker 1: succeeded expectations. Now winning is going to dictate how good

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Speaker 1: this team will be in twenty twenty. And we'll see

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Speaker 1: talking about the Cardinals Josh Allen next week when the

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Speaker 1: this just because one, he's Darren Urban's favorites Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: player perhaps of all time. But Josh McCown, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: not only is he back in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: he was already he was on the practice squad of

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, but not with the team. According to

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Speaker 1: McCown's agents, McCown now is on the Houston Texans active roster.

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Speaker 1: Josh McCown will not go away. Well, Mike McCarthy, he's

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Speaker 1: a great follow on Twitter because everyone thinks he's a

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Dallas Cowboys and it's funny. Former

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Speaker 1: Cardinals long snapper Mike Leach he would do the same

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Speaker 1: thing because people thought he was the head coach at wherever.

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Speaker 1: He is now in Washington State, so yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: He's got a ton of kids. I know he was

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Speaker 1: coaching football. He was on the Eagles practice squad. Obviously

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Speaker 1: that they didn't make a move by now the way

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is playing, I think he's an assurance if

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Speaker 1: they had Covid at that position for the Eagles because

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Speaker 1: Josh McCown. This is gonna be his twentieth year, right.

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Speaker 1: It seems like I don't know how many years it's been,

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Speaker 1: but he always won. He's a great guy. He's excellent

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Speaker 1: to have around, especially in the locker room. So props

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Speaker 1: to him. And now I'm guessing he's your backup to

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Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson in the Houston Texans quarterbacks room. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mike McCartney, not Mike McCarthy. It's at Mike McCartney seven

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Speaker 1: on social media. A fun follow, especially when the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter last week had McCartney on his podcast to

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Speaker 1: of Green Bay. So yeah, it's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: But again I had to make mention I saw it

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Speaker 1: come across, but Josh McCown, welcome back, not that you

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Speaker 1: ever left. Mike is a great agent. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: got that huge contract for Kirk Cousins, all that guaranteed money.

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Speaker 1: Well respected in the industry. I mean he's kind of

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Speaker 1: like Tom Condon and you know some of those guys

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Speaker 1: that represent quarterbacks. Lee Steinberg's back in the fall to

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Speaker 1: hear boill respected. But yeah, people, people in the media

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Speaker 1: know he's an agent, but the spelling, you think they

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Speaker 1: would figure it out at some point Yeah, there is

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Speaker 1: no H in his last name. That's the difference. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: spell check people, it's quick Google check. It's it's not

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Speaker 1: that difficult time, Jay, it really isn't. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but it is fun. Uh Hey, Twitter, Twitter's under or

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Speaker 1: at least the Internet's unbeaten right now. Very well said.

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