1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: You were inside the Players Lounge with g Scott sounds 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: I can put my foot down and say, definitely gotta 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: put your foot enough enough. You asked my honesty. You 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: shall receive power by Seahawks dot Com. The two of 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: you are the odd couple of the defense. One is Oscar, 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: one is Felix. So I appreciate you. Damn yep. Hey, 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: welcome into the Seahawks Podcast. I'm your host, Gee Scott. 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: We're live at the vMac in the Players Lounge right now, 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: joining us for our first Seahawks podcast. Cliff April and 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: rich Sherman Fellas, what you know? Good? What's going on? Man? 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: How you doing? Oh man, I'm just trying to see sir. 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: I see you got your candy addiction going right now. 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: That's that's your thing. I don't know about addiction, man, 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need it every day, you know, 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, you don't have those red vines and the 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: offense of it. All right, we're gonna talk about everything 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: but football. You know everybody, you guys can get bored 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: talking about football. We can talk about how about we 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: talking about a couple of relationship, advice to men, this family, 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: man and everything like that. What's the secret, Uncle Cliff? 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: I like to call you Uncle Cliff because you got 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: an old soul. Man. You're too young, but you just 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: act like Uncle Cliff all the time. What's what's the 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: secret to a relationship, Uncle Cliff? Just letting her win 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: most battles. I think that's the biggest thing, putting your 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: private side and allowed her to win some majority of 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: the battles even though you know she wrong, allowed her 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: to win and happy, happy wife, happy life. I truly 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: believe that, now, Sherman, is that your philosophy as well? 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: What do you got on that topic? My man? I agree, 31 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: if you're trying to have a good day, good day 32 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: out the way, that's not the shirm that I really know. Now, 33 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: the shirm that I know. I have never seen you 34 00:01:54,720 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: back down from an argument. So you mean to tell 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: me at home, Shirve, you let her win a majority? Now? 36 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: Its times I could put my foot down and say, 37 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: I definitely gotta put your foot enough enough if I'm 38 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: trying to if I'm not trying to trying to certain 39 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: certain no, if I'm trying to go to sleep, hey baby, 40 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: you wore okay, okay, So let's just say you're in 41 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: the doghouse, right, and this would help. Let's let's say 42 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: you're in the doghouse, sum, what is your go to 43 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 1: for when you are in the doghouse and you're trying 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: to get out of the doghouse? My goal to what's 45 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: your goal? Everybody's got that go to? Oh no, I 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I think I think i'd go to her stomach. 47 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: You know, while you're at work, you sent some some 48 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: edible range cover strawberries or something, and then send him 49 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: Anna's miss Ley and act like you didn't know what 50 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: happened when you get home, because she'd be like, oh 51 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: my god, thank you. But he's like, oh who oh, 52 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: you know you gotta mess with her. Get her out 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: of that move, right, uncle? Cli? What's your go to? Man? 54 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: My go to? Um to be honest with you, I 55 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: don't say sorry that often, So if I know I 56 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: really messed up, I say sorry, and she know I 57 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: meant it, because like she know, I don't like it's rare. 58 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: I don't care how bad I messed up. Most of 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: the time, I'm not saying sorry. I felt like I 60 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: won that battle. So if I just politely, just genuinely 61 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: say I'm sorry, and you know, I apologize. I feel 62 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: where you're coming from. I think she, uh, she appreciates 63 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: that more than anything. We're joined here about Cliff Abro, 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman here on the Seahawks podcasts, and uh, let's 65 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: talk fatherhood, fatherhood and Cliff, I see you out with 66 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: your son all the time. Of course, great dad does 67 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: Does your son know that his dad is famous? Am 68 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: I know? Yeah? Um? No, you know what, It's crazy 69 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: because he's been like this is all he knows, you 70 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So really is gonna be a 71 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: culture shark. It's gonna be something different one I'm retired, 72 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But no, I don't think. 73 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think. He thinks it's all normal, 74 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: like people come up to you, Hey, can I get 75 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: an autograph. It's got to the point now where he 76 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: feels like he should be signing autographs too, because some 77 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: people haven't said, hey, you want it, and so he 78 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: gets kind of like irritated if if if I say 79 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: no you can't do it, or no you can't be 80 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: in this picture, like he feels some kind of way 81 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: about it. But that's all he knows. Man, I can't. 82 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't fall to him. But he doesn't 83 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: necessarily think, oh, Dad's some kind of superstars. Just think 84 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: Dad is Dad, and Dad's kind of cool. I guess 85 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: what's it gonna be like when your son gets a 86 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: little bit older and realizes that his dad's famous A lister? Yea, yeah, 87 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: you know he's an A lister whenever he goes out 88 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: and he puts the hood on. That's how you know it. 89 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: Sure you are a listen, just just I'm probably like 90 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: a d baby. They don't know, mel Sharon. I've seen 91 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: you get in the backseat of your own car. Yep, 92 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: you have not. I don't give the kids. The kids 93 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: is in the back your own car? No, meaning you 94 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: had a driver meeting. What's your driver's name? What's your driver? 95 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: Which house are you going to? The summer house? Okay? Um, 96 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think about it. You know. 97 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: I try to protect him as much as you can, 98 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: you know, from all the nonsense of the world today, 99 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: because people don't people don't respect your prophecy a lot 100 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: for the most part. But you know, at the end 101 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: of the day, I'm gonna tell her, like like I 102 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: was told to tell people like you ain't famous, you 103 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: ain't done nothing. You know, my money ain't your money, 104 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: you know. You know my dad used to tell me. 105 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: I say, yeah, you know, you work all these jobs. 106 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here wearing pay less shoes and hand me down. 107 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, Mama, this is my money. I work 108 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: for it, you know. And that's how I'm gonna treat 109 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: my son and make him work for everything, and and 110 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be pretty tough on him. Now. Speaking of 111 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: you guys as kids and possible father following in their 112 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: father's footsteps, I asked you yesterday about your son and 113 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: what sport he likes. How is basketball? How is basketball 114 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: his first choice right now? Um, I don't know how 115 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: it's his first choice, but that's what he loved. He 116 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: loved grabbing a basketball. I mean, he comes to the 117 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 1: football game and has a great time and those football 118 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: and plays it. But when he gets to basketball, he 119 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: just he just gets in the little zone. So so 120 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: we just support it. Man. He he looks like he's 121 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: gonna be a lefty too, which which is gonna be 122 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: something else. Sure, for some reason, I don't really think 123 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: that you had a basketball game at all. Back in 124 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: the day. Now, correct me if I'm wrong? Could you play? 125 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't try. Oh okay, okay, I was 126 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: all American in tracks, so I didn't didn't track a track. 127 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: Oh that's a that's a that's an a list type 128 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: of right now clip, How about yourself? He likes basketball 129 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: as well? He loves basketball, man, Um, I think I 130 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: think you know I'm all in for it. You know, honestly, 131 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: I don't really care too much for him to play football, honestly, um, 132 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: but you know, he's gonna do whatever he wants to do. 133 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: But he loves hooping. And you know, I I toll 134 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: in my back of my head, I'm like, hey, go 135 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: get some of that guaranteed money now, you know what 136 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Whooping in and hopefully he starts playing baseball. 137 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, it's just all about having letting 138 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: them have fun and not putting any pressure on them 139 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: more so than anything, and let them just be able 140 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: to you know, they're fortunate enough to be able to 141 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: play whatever sport. They don't have to play a sport, 142 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: but they're fortun enough to be able to play whatever 143 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: sport and just go all in on it. You mentioned 144 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: about not putting so much pressure on them. And I'm 145 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: a dad myself, and we try to as dads, try 146 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: not to put pressure on their children. But Cliff, what's 147 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: gonna happen when your son comes to you and says, hey, Dad, 148 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: you know what, I really want to be good at basketball. 149 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: I really want to be good at football. How do 150 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: you find that balance? Um? I think I think again, 151 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: it starts with them just having to drive first and foremost. 152 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying to to one to play 153 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: one one or the other, you know what I'm saying. 154 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: But as far as for I mean, I think they're 155 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: gonna have the work ethic just due to well, you're 156 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: gonna have to insteer it in them a little bit, 157 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 1: you know, obviously because their upbring compared to our upbringing 158 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: is a little different. We actually had to go get 159 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: it here. Was it for them is more so like 160 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: they just gonna have to be passionate about the game 161 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: and make things happen. But for me, I just think, 162 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, they just got to go out there. I'm 163 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: not gonna pick and choose for him, you know, because 164 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, you can be whatever you 165 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: want to be. You you know, I'm just gonna be 166 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: able to provide a lot of different options for you. Fortunately, 167 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: to be able to provide those options and go be 168 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: a doctor, you ain't need necessarily got to be an 169 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: athlete or nothing like that, you know. Or conversation that 170 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: I've been kind of safe and a conversation that I've 171 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: been thinking about has had me up late at night 172 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: is the fact that I've heard Richard Sherman talk about 173 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: my dress and what it is my fashion I've had, 174 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: I've had Cliff Abril talk about my fashions, and I 175 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: get that, but I just want to take this time 176 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: to say to you guys, you know, sherm outside of 177 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: you and that bow tie in that suit, your dress 178 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: ain't always the best on the everyday basis. I just 179 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: want to bring it, you know, and I don't judge 180 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: you on it everyday basis. You know, if I judge 181 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: you on the everyday basis, I would think the weather 182 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: weather was a little bit more more than it is. 183 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: You know, maybe like a flood what's going on. But 184 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: you know we're not going there. An't think that was coming. No, no, no, uh, Cliff, 185 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: is what I'm wearing today, Okay, I mean I decided 186 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: I try to be kind of like seahawkish with the 187 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: colors today. How is that even Seahawkers? Because you wear 188 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: shoes kind of match right there? You didn't like because 189 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: you wear bright shoes doesn't necessarily mean you're matching. First off, Um, 190 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: the army fatigue has nothing to do with Seahawks either. Um. 191 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, Ge. I just think sometimes you just 192 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: forget your You have a you have a seventeen year old, sir, 193 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: I think you forget. I don't know who's who the 194 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: who the who's the child? I think you'd be wearing 195 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: his clothes. I don't know. I don't get it. On 196 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: your team. Who's one of the best dress played myself? 197 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: Oh Cliff, you gave yourself that. But it all depends 198 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: on what you're trying to like. I don't. I don't 199 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: wear suits to games and stuff like that. So some 200 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: of the guys you know might be shun us. The 201 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: more corporate guys wear suits, w sher was a list 202 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: at one corporate man. I just really love this podcast. 203 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: The more endorsed guys, the more endorsed guys suits, I 204 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: might have to he called no no, but no, no, no, 205 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm joking. But anyways, but some of those guys, they 206 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: were six. I'm more of a casual, you know, jeans 207 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: T shirt guy, um, but with a little swag to it, 208 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: you know. So if I seen you tuck in your 209 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: polo to your jeans, you've never seen me. I don't know, Cliff, 210 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: I stop seeing that. What I what? I know? You 211 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: you can call him a lot of things, you know. 212 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: You can call him a favorite, you know, boiler maker, 213 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: a lot of things, but you cannot call him bro. 214 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what his foot wear. He's wearing people's 215 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: car notes on his feet. Each foot is a car 216 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: note ish page. I just I go out there and 217 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: I wear suits that have donated to me by various 218 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: compan So so these elegant, you know, suits that you 219 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: have been donated, huh what they get? That's what they 220 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: give the A listers see people like myself, I have 221 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: to go buy these three thousand and four thousand dollars 222 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: suits that you're wearing. Oh oh, I really? You know 223 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: what's speaking of the corporate I will agree with you 224 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: when I see Cliff Abril, Cliff Abril does look as 225 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: if he's dresses the corporate a lister and you, on 226 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: the other hand, it's kind of the opposite. Explain how 227 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: come you wear those slippers all the time? Can you 228 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: talk about that? You know, I live my life for comfort. Um, 229 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,599 Speaker 1: you know you gotta be comfortable. You know. Cliff is 230 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: obviously a century link Um Endorser of the yearly you 231 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: know he has he has more things to do. But I, 232 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: on the other hand, you know, have nobody to impress. 233 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: You know, I work hard. I gotta make sure my 234 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: feet are comfortable because they say you take care of 235 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: your beat because it's your moneymakers. Um. But Cliff, you know, 236 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: Cliff clipp been playing this game. He got drafted in 237 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: the third round. Um, out of her due and sack master. 238 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: You know, you know one thing that is true in 239 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: this game, you will always need people that can rush 240 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: the pass. Cliff can play until Cliff don't want to 241 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: play no more. You know. Me, on the other hand, 242 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: I have my life. Every week we speaking to fight 243 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: for your life. I want to pull the curtains back 244 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: on a conversation I've had many a time, and here's 245 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: the deal. Um. It's been said sometimes that the secondary 246 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: gets a lot of credit, a lot of props. Nobody 247 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: ever talks about the D line. Why is that sure? 248 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: Why why doesn't anybody talk about the forgotten D line? 249 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: The only reason why they've been talking about now is 250 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: because Mike benn It talked to day much. I'm gonna 251 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: let you know something. If they weren't talking about the 252 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: D line, that was because they have now watched the 253 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: game of US playing, because they say Cliff Avroel and 254 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: Mike been it more than anybody else. Speaking of Mike 255 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: ben I'll tell you what, Mike Bennet, I'll tell you. 256 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I'll tell you this. I'll tell you 257 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: when they when they did the Super Bowl Sports Illustrated cover, 258 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, they did not put the secondary on it. 259 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: They put the D line, putting that pressure on Peyton. 260 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah they did did they did the best. Speaking of 261 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and the Sports Illustrating the cover, do 262 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: you still have that boy band picture that I mean, 263 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: do you have that framed in your house? Lo the lob? 264 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: You remember? You know the boy band picture? You guys, 265 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: you sang a song, your hair was blowing out the wind. 266 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what you mean, you know, I don't 267 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: see it as a boy I felt like we were 268 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: very adapting. We looked incredibly tough. Yeah, but we never 269 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: never love himself. The boy got his own number on 270 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: his pink palms paddle. Who wait a minute, who has 271 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: their own number on a pink number? Name number, name, 272 00:13:54,400 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: But I even up you. I don't know his arm. 273 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, your name and number on a ping 274 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: paw paddle. I hop you one more, though, I hop 275 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: you one more. Somebody in here out of the three 276 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: of us, got their face on both sides of the 277 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: pin Paul table, two different things. I think he went 278 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: to the studio he did just for the paddle. Wow. 279 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: If it ain't me so with that, that's corporate. That 280 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: would be considered a list, a list that it probably 281 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: was given to him both too. I had to go 282 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: buy my thing. Why are you late for this conversation anyway? 283 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: You was here a second ago, and then you left 284 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: us when I had better stuff to do. The deal 285 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: already showed you. You asked my honesty, you shall receive. 286 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: Mike be We talked about it all. We talked about relationships, 287 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: We talked about fashion. They these guys both admitted that 288 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: your fashion is terrible. We're talking about that. Both Sherman 289 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: cl that was that was a bit of a stretch 290 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: he's saying. But you know, first off, we didn't give 291 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: it inscrib. But but obviously he is in the realm 292 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: of controversy. Look, look, this is my thing with fashion. Okay, 293 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: there comes a time where a man has to dress 294 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: his age and hasn't. I feel like, Gee's far from that. 295 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: I think he's like, like, what age do you think 296 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: he is based off his Based off his age? I 297 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: think he's between eighteen and twenty two? Like he got 298 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: a seventeen year old child. Yeah, y'all feel like not 299 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: seventeen a freshman? Right? Yeah? Like do you think he 300 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: gets fashion tips from his son? Yeah? Is that why? 301 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: Why I tell you I don't get fashion tips from y'all. 302 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You should be no, no, 303 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: no bow tie, he'd be clean. That's the only time 304 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: Sherman's clean is in the bow tie the suit. Same 305 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: thing with you. The only time you clean is in 306 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: the suit on a regular day. Basis, do you see 307 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: what you look at? You look at how you just 308 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: were at work? What's your excuse? You don't leave your 309 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: shoes around at work like this? What's your excuse? What's 310 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: your excuse? We're at work. What's your excuse? We're joined 311 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: here by Mike Bennett Cliff. We had to reset this 312 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: because they're sitting there turning and around on me. How 313 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: about we talking the Olympics. Did you guys watch the Olympics? Anything? 314 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: Any favors that you have? Who'd you got? I didn't 315 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: know that people didn't get paid as big of a 316 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: deal that thing is. I didn't know the people didn't 317 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: get paid for all this work get putting in. That's 318 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: kind of crazy. Since we're on the Olympics, I want 319 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: to talk about the basketball side of things, right. Uh. 320 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: Carmelo Anthony, this is now his third gold medal that 321 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: he has won. People are now asking, some of the 322 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: national media pundits are asking, is he one of the 323 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: best basketball players ever? Because this is his third gold medal? 324 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: Do you believe that should should Carmelo Anthony be rewarded 325 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: as one of the best players ever even though he's 326 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: never won anything. It just depends on how you look 327 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: at it. You know, they treat they treat international play 328 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: different than they treat you know, NBA play. So you 329 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: can say Paul gasoul is one of the greatest international 330 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: players to ever play you could say Mino Janobli is 331 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: one of the great he took Argentea, But Paula Saw 332 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: is one of the best players that ever put in 333 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: the NBA two. Yeah, crazy, what you say, Paula Saw 334 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: that is not one of the best basketball players that 335 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: played the game. Come on, now, might be this is 336 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: one of the best. But it's a long list before him, 337 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's how long you don't 338 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: even start talking about Paul forwards, but without talking about 339 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: Tim Duncan, Tim Duncan, Charles Barkley, carlm Alone, come on now, Mike, 340 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: Paul Saul But but but mat Mano Genobli take Argentina, 341 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: a team who ain't never gonna win another one, to 342 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: the gold medal in two thousand and four, beating the US. 343 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: People forget about stuff like that. So if you're talking 344 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: about international play, then then you might have some when 345 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: we ever talked international play, that's the players grounds right 346 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: now when you're talking Olympics. Very very true. So okay, 347 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: So should the conversation be the Carmelo is one of 348 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: the best players to ever play the game of basketball 349 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: internationally and internationally, so that's we change. I don't know 350 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: I think, But I mean, honestly, Carmelo, I don't. I 351 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: don't know why he still was playing in it, but 352 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: I think I think he's definitely he should be considered 353 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: great at the sport for sure, you know what I'm saying. 354 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: To be able to do that for your country, to 355 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: be able to go out and win three straight, you 356 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, being a part of team, being 357 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: a major part of winning, I think that's big. But 358 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: to make him the great, one of the greatest players ever, 359 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: he has to win in the NBA because that's where 360 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: all the like everybody that plays on the international in 361 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: in in the Olympics, wants to be in the NBA. 362 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: Who's top three players in the NBA right now? Top three, 363 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: top three land and actually average sixteen and eleven, top 364 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: three Lebron Uh, Kevin Duran, Well let's go, let's just go. 365 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: Who are your top five? Who are you? Who's your 366 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: starting five? We just we just had this guy who's 367 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: just starting to five for your NBA team, starting five 368 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: for all everything right now, play right now. So you 369 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta go. Uh Steph Curvato songs a six 370 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: time NBA Are you really gonna stay on this champion. 371 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: We were time NBA. First, we can go down the 372 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: list about Charles, Charles Barkley and NBA. If you're top time, 373 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: time to kill you score two times called alone a 374 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: powercasow who's take on your take? I'm taking over him alone. 375 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't know about that one. She's the best, best, 376 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: best pass, the big man. That's why, that's why it's 377 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: a whole different game now too, though. Top five, Top five, 378 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: Top five right now, Steph Curry, Lebron James, Kevin Durant. 379 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: I don't even know if Katie makes my time, So 380 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: does Dirk Navinski make your top five? No? Two old 381 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: right now, top five. I'm not talking about all time 382 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: our forwards. No, not all talking, not over Tim Duncan, 383 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm five. I'm talking about power power forwards. 384 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: Um Polkasaw average eighteen and eighteen points a game and 385 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: ten eleven point rebounds of four point one assistant's career. 386 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 1: So we can say, Chris bosh and Polka, Chris Boshes 387 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: Chris and so you are you are you putting him 388 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: over over over Kevin Garnett, m hm, oh you know 389 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: are we I'm talking about You're not putting you for 390 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: not putting Polkaslo Kevin Garnett, are you. I'm not saying 391 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: Kevin Garnards one of the best players of all time, 392 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: So let's Polkers. So I'm saying, what about Dennis Rodman, 393 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: one of the best players of all time? Everybody can't 394 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: be the best player everybody you want. I said, one 395 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: of the best players of all time. But you're diluting 396 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: that the more time because you're saying it for everybody. No, 397 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying if you're I'm saying if you're top ten, 398 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you're top ten at that position of 399 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: all times, you're pretty good. The last conversation I want 400 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: to have it kind of started. I had a conversation 401 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: with with Sherman and mo Kelly yesterday and I got 402 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: to thinking about it yesterday and talking about teaching children 403 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: how to be good with their money. Right now, of course, 404 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: you guys do well for yourselves. How will you guys 405 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: teach your kids how to be good with money in 406 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: the future. You got to educate them, man. But to 407 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: be honest with you, we're still learning. Like we didn't 408 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: grow with money, you know what I'm saying. So it's 409 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: it's a learning process for us. That that's that's the 410 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: difference between uh, I guess the black community in the 411 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: white community the most part, you know, I was saying 412 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: to be politically correct, like for the most part, you know, 413 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously every white person ain't rich, but there's 414 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: a difference in the learning curve of just understanding money, 415 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So as we continue to learn, 416 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: I think we have to definitely show our kids and 417 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: teach our kids. Well, you talk about learning with some 418 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: of the first things you bought when you got into 419 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: the NFL, I was, I was a dummy. I bought 420 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: a car, you know, typical, typical thing to do, I guess. 421 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: But I've learned from that. I mean, I still buy cars, 422 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: but but I've I've learned. But I'm saying, at the time, 423 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: when I look back, that was a dumb buy, you 424 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because this thing and guaranteed I'm 425 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: fortunate enough to be going on my knife season. And 426 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: why why do we go and buy the car first? 427 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: Because why why I did? Society sub consciously tells us 428 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: that's what we're supposed to do. Like as a as 429 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: a community, Black folks, that's what we're supposed to do. 430 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: Show up and Mike b when'd you start learning how 431 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: to be good with money? It's cheap for a while, 432 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: and then I started hanging around Cliff, and that just 433 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: sure did talk about Cliff and how his each shoe 434 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: was each different paycheck. So it's Cliff or a bad example. 435 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: They're not a bad example. Cliff is really a good 436 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: example of how to really study what you're doing. I 437 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: think a lot of times, as players, I think we 438 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: don't study what we're doing. We just assumed that somebody's 439 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: gonna take care of it for us, and that ends 440 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: up becoming a problem for a lot of players because 441 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's you. It's your future. 442 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: Like you can't you can't worry, we can't trust everything 443 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: somebody tell you, and you have to be able to 444 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: go out there and search for the information and put 445 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: the put your future in your own hands. A lot 446 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: of times we just put our futures into many people's hands, 447 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: and I think once you start to realize that it 448 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: is yours and you start taking hold of it and 449 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: controlling it and taking the chances that you want to take. 450 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: Because a lot of times when you got money, people 451 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: try to tell you what chances to take, Oh do this, 452 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: do that, and then you're like, Okay, I'll do it 453 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: instead of like doing your researchers, taking your own chances 454 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: and building your own company and building what you want. 455 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: It's what you want. But it reverts back to education though, 456 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: like just understanding and taking the time to learn, you 457 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I think, I think sometimes we, 458 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: like he said, we allowed too many people to tell 459 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: us what to do, even from a financial standpoint, you know, 460 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: so learning how to invest, learning, you know, whatever it 461 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: is that you're interested in, learning the business and ins 462 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: and outs of it. So when somebody's talking to you, 463 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: actually know what the heck they're talking about, and you 464 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: ain't just you know, just nodding your head to head 465 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: to yes to everything they say. Sheron what kind of 466 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: lessons you have? Come on? Um, well, that shore that 467 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: came out broke as a joke. I got my signing 468 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: building that took me out of the negative. You're signing 469 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: voters with the Seahawks. So you use that to take 470 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: care of your back you are had you had bad 471 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: credit company, which no I'm talking about my checking account 472 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: had negative forty dollars in it. When I got my 473 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: signing bonus and cashed it, I had the money and 474 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: we was and we was off the lockout. So we 475 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: had to go for three months with no money and nothing, 476 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: no job. Um. But you know, throughout the process, you 477 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: kind of you kind of learned, you know, through trial 478 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: and error more than anything, because luckily we have enough 479 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: money to do trial and error. Um, but you learned 480 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: that you gotta save. You know, we I didn't spend 481 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: frivolously my rookie year. Um. But I also you know, 482 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: wasn't the you know, most tedious on my books, and 483 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: and you know I would eat out a lot and 484 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: do stuff like that. But but I think throughout throughout 485 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: my career, I've learned what what Cliff said is that 486 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: it's not guaranteed and that you you gotta you gotta 487 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: plan for the future. You got a plan for longevity 488 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: and long call. And that's what I've I've been able 489 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: to do over the course of my career is just 490 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: planning for the long card. You know, I got enough 491 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: money to shut it down and go home down, you know, 492 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: and live comfortably for the rest of my life. But 493 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: now it allows you to play free and do all that, 494 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: but but you're able to educate more of your family. 495 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: I think that's where the frustration comes in, is when 496 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, all this education and all these opportunities I've 497 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: had to culture myself and to be more comfortable with money, 498 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to educate my family. So 499 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: when I deal with them, I still have to deal 500 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: with like I'm dealing with my younger self, you know, 501 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: And that's where difficulties. So I agree. So, so how 502 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: it seems like Mike Bennett you learn from trial and error. 503 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: It seems like Cliff you learn from trial and error. 504 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: And sure you learn from trial and error. How do 505 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: we make it better for the next generation that's coming 506 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: up to not learn from trial and error? Well, so, 507 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: I think it takes the time for the people to 508 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: want to learn. I think a lot of times people 509 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: don't really want to learn the money. Money is one 510 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: of those things that nobody really wants to talk about. 511 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,719 Speaker 1: It's kind of like religion. Everybody wants to keep their 512 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: political views to themselves, and nobody ever wants to reveal 513 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: how much money they got. And it thinks that the 514 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: losses have to take If you listen to all the 515 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: greatest people that have taken losses with money, but they 516 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: never talk about All they do is talk about the 517 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: success that they had. So a lot of people don't 518 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: talk about the success. I think we need to have 519 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: more conversations about the faults that we had, things that 520 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: we did wrong that where we can be educated on it, Like, Okay, Cliffs, 521 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: so you did oh you lost that before. Like when 522 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm going through something, I'll be like, hey, Cliff, did 523 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: you did you have to pay this much for your 524 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: taxes on this thing? Then he'll tell me, oh, yeah 525 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: that I'll be like, Okay, you know I'm in the 526 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: right area then. But I feel like a lot of 527 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: times guys don't do that, and I think that's where 528 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: we fall shorter. So how but they put in place 529 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL, they put in a place a lot 530 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: of situations to teach these rookies. What would be the 531 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: fastest track for these rookies. What would be the fastest 532 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: track for these rookies to learn right now? Man? I 533 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: think one, I think they gotta get out of their 534 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: own way, you know what I'm saying. Like I know 535 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: when I was a rookie, yes, I said I bought 536 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: that car or whatever. But to be honest with you, 537 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: I think I was real conservative with everything else in 538 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: my life because I knew the lockout was coming and 539 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: all these different things. So for as much money I 540 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: had made at the time, I think I was doing decent. 541 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I could have survived the lockout. 542 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: I could, so I could have done some things. So 543 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: I think the first thing with rookies is them getting 544 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: out of their own way and believe it in themselves 545 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: that they don't have to go get you know, I 546 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: was listening to some of these clowns. They're like, oh, 547 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, I want to get a while. I want 548 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: to go get that, Rolex, I want to go get this. 549 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: I want to go get that. And it's like, wait, 550 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: that stuff is still gonna be there. You know what 551 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, That stuff is gonna be there. So I 552 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: think waiting and saving your money, and on top of 553 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: that is just educating yourself again, getting back to understanding 554 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: that how to how to uh you know, educate yourself 555 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: and how to invest and how I just how to 556 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: make your money grow. Man, Because at the end of 557 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: the day, you can't make nothing grow from nothing, you 558 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So if you got it, try 559 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: to make it grow and then spend some of it, 560 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Or fellas, I don't want 561 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: to keep you. I appreciate you guys jumping on the 562 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: Seahawks podcast today, Um Black, you can join us, Mike Bennett. 563 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: The two of you are the odd couple of the defense. 564 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: One is Oscar, one is Felix. So I appreciate you 565 00:27:54,560 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: and DA Yep. Yeah, I'm supposed to get the last word. 566 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: You're not when I die. Even when I die, I 567 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: got a whole like video, get the last laugh. I 568 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: might be dead, but they won't be able to joke 569 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: against me like I got jokes on cliff I recorded. 570 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: It's gonna be like a thirty minute video that I 571 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: want to play at the funeral, Like, so's to basically 572 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: just be playing this video and I'd be like, I'm 573 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: gonna start the video off like hey, I'm sorry, I'll 574 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: left you guys, But Cliffy's still black. You still can't dress. 575 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: Who would you say, boy, searn, I don't know you 576 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: still trying to figure it out. So his part of 577 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: in the video hasn't been made yet. Why you know, 578 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: I just want to say before we go, why we 579 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: always be doing that? Why we always be calling each 580 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: other black sea's light, skinning cast like you always doing 581 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: that because we're celebrating our blackness. I appreciate I'm calling 582 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: callers all dark and blackness because black is beautiful, the 583 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: black of the bed, it sweeter the juice, and dark 584 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: of the flesh and the deep of the rule. I'm like, hey, 585 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys for joining us. Yours dark, but you 586 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: got something white on you are. We'll edit, We'll edit 587 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: that one out. We'll edited that one out. See you 588 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: guys next time. As we're lying from the bed back 589 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: right here in the players round, what the think Michael Bennett, 590 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman and clipp Abra for joining us next time