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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 3: Yes, one more to go Texans Steelers tonight in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: But there's a lot to talk about from wild Card

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Speaker 3: weekend here, there, at everywhere. Hit carry up at Carrie

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Speaker 3: twenty five Roads. You can find me at Dan Byer

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Speaker 2: What are you laughing at?

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Speaker 1: Dan?

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Speaker 2: Because of my hate?

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Speaker 3: We're gonna do love and hate in the second Isaac

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Speaker 3: low and Cron, Jason Stewart and IOA Sam may have

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Speaker 3: a case of the Mondays, right, could be, it could

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Speaker 3: be a situation.

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Speaker 2: I feel it in the air.

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Speaker 3: I went to Starbucks this morning and I wanted to

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Speaker 3: use some reward points and I told her. She said

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Speaker 3: it's too late. Oh so yeah, so it's not a

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Speaker 3: wait for another day. Jason's computer is.

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Speaker 2: On the fritz.

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Speaker 3: Jason's computers on the fritz. Just one of those Mondays

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Speaker 3: it happens.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You can find Jason Stewart at Jason Stewart at Iowa

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Speaker 3: SAM ninety nine for Iowa Sam, and at Isaac Lohancron

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Speaker 3: for Isaac Lohancron There's probably gonna be a lot of hate,

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Speaker 3: but there's going to be a lot of love. Let's

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Speaker 3: just get right into it. Love and hate for this Monday.

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Speaker 1: What did you love?

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Speaker 5: God?

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Speaker 4: I love you?

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Speaker 1: And what did you hate?

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Speaker 4: Meet these player hays.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Packer fans hated seeing that Matt

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Speaker 3: Lafleur is probably going to stick around. I just know

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Speaker 3: that they probably didn't love it, so it's they're kind

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Speaker 3: of indifferent about it. Let's start with the love. Jason Stewart,

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Speaker 3: this has been your baby. You're betting lead off.

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Speaker 6: You know how I always say that I care less

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Speaker 6: about the sports than how they're covered, right, And I

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Speaker 6: always also care about this. I'm not one of those

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Speaker 6: I told you so guys, or I don't put things

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Speaker 6: on Twitter and then repost them months later and say

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Speaker 6: I just leave it here to confirm predictions. But I

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Speaker 6: will say this, I from the very beginning of Tony Romo,

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Speaker 6: I have not been a fan. And then yeah, yesterday

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Speaker 6: and Live Time, we saw a lot of like the

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Speaker 6: former blue check marks saying that this I think it's

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Speaker 6: time for Romo to step down or be I don't know,

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Speaker 6: to go to the team number two and whatnot. So

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Speaker 6: I don't need to be right on everything, but I

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Speaker 6: do like it when my instincts are kind of confirmed

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Speaker 6: about these things. Tony Romo, the Wolves are out. Anyone

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Speaker 6: who's anyone in the media coverage, Talk Space and written

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Speaker 6: space are calling for his job today, and I think

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Speaker 6: it has to do with a couple of things. He

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Speaker 6: sounds like an eight year old on fundip on the

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Speaker 6: air when we're trying to watch important games. I think

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Speaker 6: these things get magnified when there are playoff games because

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Speaker 6: they are isolated games and people have to sit there

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Speaker 6: and watch. They can't go on the red zone to

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Speaker 6: another game. They can't they can't pull it back and forth.

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Speaker 6: You're basically just there to watch it, and you realize

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Speaker 6: how bad it is. As the juxtaposition. As a contrast,

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Speaker 6: I think Tom Brady has improved. I don't think that

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Speaker 6: You could tell he's trying a lot. I do have

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Speaker 6: one point of a broadcast note for Tom, and I

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Speaker 6: could probably send it through my people at Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 6: but I might as well just do it on the

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Speaker 6: air broadcast. Note for Tom Brady, you have to stop

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Speaker 6: sounding like one of those prep school white kids from

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Speaker 6: he gets these affect on his voice, but he says

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Speaker 6: when he drops back, it's a pause. He can't be

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Speaker 6: popping the hoff back. And then he said this yesterday McCaffrey.

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Speaker 6: McCaffrey caught the pass. He's a hoff Bach. It's like

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Speaker 7: What he's from Northern California? Why do you say pass

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's a big easter egg and loves the company

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Speaker 3: that you die your Easter egg.

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Speaker 6: Come with marying a supermodel and making eight figures. I

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Speaker 3: Little pas I'll say this. I think the difference between

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Speaker 3: and he got it without ever calling a game. Romo

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Speaker 3: stardom took off when he did it at first, and

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Speaker 3: everybody loved it at first, and then they rewarded him

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Speaker 3: so he's thinking, they love what I do. I'm just

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Speaker 3: going to continue to do it because that's what they love.

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Speaker 3: That's what I do. Where Brady actually walked in already

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Speaker 3: being paid, but with a pretty clean slate that you

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Speaker 3: Romo could just always point to but that's why you

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Speaker 3: And I think that's the difference between the two and

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Speaker 3: maybe one of the reasons why Romo isn't changing and

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Speaker 3: Brady is adopting Jason.

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Speaker 8: You don't like that, you don't like the oh, Jim,

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Speaker 8: they're gonna do it. You don't like that by Tony,

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Speaker 8: none of that stuff. And it's hard to present like

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Speaker 8: clips if Tony Romo being bad because it's more of

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Speaker 8: like a sit there and feel it and hear it thing,

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Speaker 8: as opposed to like he screwed up this call, right,

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Speaker 2: And the whole thing about Tony Romo he started out

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Speaker 2: as an illusionist, right, So at the person watching the

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Speaker 2: game that has no football knowledge, he was calling plays

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Speaker 2: right like he was say they're gonna run this, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh, they ran it. Oh, He's he's the best.

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Speaker 2: That gag is run out, because obviously any one of

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Speaker 2: and say they're in their formation, gonna they're gonna run

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Speaker 2: that play. The gag is up, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: what Tony romo, and he hasn't evolved from there. God.

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Speaker 9: So I was here with the game on, working but

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Speaker 9: I couldn't hear it. But I heard that Romo was

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Speaker 9: making a ton of golf references, and my buddy Dylan,

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Speaker 9: who loves golfing, he just said it was so annoyed.

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Speaker 9: So it's like, if you're making somebody golf references that

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Speaker 9: then it must have been too much.

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Speaker 3: Dan, your thoughts, Yeah, I was gonna say, you asked

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Speaker 3: me this, and I told Jason today. I didn't listen

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Speaker 3: I wasn't missing the play. I wasn't listening as much,

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Speaker 3: Jason was saying, like yesterday was a standalone game, and

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Speaker 3: I think that people when they consume football, they're usually

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Speaker 3: watching for their own local teams first, and then if

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Speaker 3: you have stuff to do on that Sunday, maybe you're

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Speaker 3: not taking in the game that Romo does. Romo maybe

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Speaker 3: hasn't done your game, so you're not as focused on it.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't as focused. I watched the whole game yesterday,

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Speaker 3: but I wasn't as focused as much on the stuff

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Speaker 3: that Romo was saying. I do know on the one

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen touchdown where he scored the first time and

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Speaker 3: Rome I start talking about the ref running to some

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Speaker 3: was kind of annoyed that he kind of ruined the

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Speaker 3: like I remember that instance, but I don't remember all

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Speaker 3: of the Gulf sort of things. Just like to Jason's point,

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize what annoyed so many people yesterday about

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Speaker 2: And to Dan's point, with Tom, I mean Tom sought

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Speaker 2: so he was going to go up and he's going

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Speaker 2: to improve. That's who Tom Brady is. And so yeah,

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Speaker 2: the point to where he is now and I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's very insightful obviously, so we were getting that from Tom.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Isaac Longcron at the news desk. Isaac,

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Speaker 3: what did you love from this past weekend?

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Speaker 10: Well, what I loved is actually also broadcaster related. I

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Speaker 10: was actually going to allude to Tom Brady, but al

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Speaker 10: Michaels of Prime had been really maligned during the course

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Speaker 10: of the regular season because fans felt that he just

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Speaker 10: wasn't as into the games as he should be. But

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Speaker 10: I thought he did an outstanding job. He was as

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Speaker 10: good as he's ever been for the really big moments

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Speaker 10: of the Bears Packers playoff game on Saturday night. Here's

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Speaker 10: a taste for the final play eating.

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Speaker 4: Furiously gets dropped, love looking one last guest, moving guys around,

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Speaker 4: fires to the end zone, man, and it's crooking up

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Speaker 4: the Bears, would it be?

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Speaker 10: So that was vintage al Michaels. You could hear that

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Speaker 10: extra oomph in his voice on Saturday night, So that

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Speaker 3: It was a great great watch snow flourries before the game.

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Speaker 3: It didn't dominate the game. Thing goodness because it could

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Speaker 3: that I hate the snow games, the Blizzard games, because

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah, it was cold, but they were able

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Speaker 3: to do their thing. Carry what you love from the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Man, I loved all of the in the playoff game

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Speaker 2: from the weekend. I told Dan yesterday, I walked in like,

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Speaker 2: this is the time for me when I'm actually invested

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Speaker 2: because you're seeing x's and those elevated to a level

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Speaker 2: of when you call coaches and you call players magicians

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Speaker 2: or you call them geniuses, like those words get tossed

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Speaker 2: out a lot regular season. It's just not the same

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Speaker 2: for me because I've played it. But when you get

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Speaker 2: to see guys come into the playoffs and have their

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Speaker 2: team prepared, more prepared than the other team, and have

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Speaker 2: the answers to the test. Me being a guy that

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Speaker 2: loves to stay in the space of like smart people

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Speaker 2: and people creating things and being imaginative, like the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: I love that, and so for me, I walked in

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Speaker 2: and really loved that.

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Speaker 3: Iowa sham your love from what was a great weekend

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Speaker 3: in the eyes of Kerry.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna go to a different sport here. This is

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Speaker 9: you know, my hate is definitely ready to go.

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Speaker 7: My love.

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Speaker 9: I took a little bit more time I needed to develop.

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Speaker 9: I mean it's really only skin deep. But I don't

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Speaker 9: have an NBA team, So I really root hard for

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Speaker 9: Iowa women and men's basketball, and they had a mixed bag.

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Speaker 9: On Saturday, the men were playing Illinois. It was ranked

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Speaker 9: Iowa versus ranked Illinois, and that's a rivalry game. Those

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Speaker 9: and so that was a very frustrating watch. Iowa had

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Speaker 9: was great to see the Iowa women number fourteen, go

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Speaker 7: That would have been a really crummy weekend. But my

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, Dan, you still have to do Yeah, let's

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Speaker 3: Really you are? Am I yeah, but geez, I hardly

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Speaker 9: You were like Tony Romo after the game, hitting the

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Speaker 2: Daniel was a reference to that's to the Somalian guy.

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Speaker 5: Well, none better than Kyle Shanahan and doing that a

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Speaker 3: CNBC is heard the nickname for Christian McCaffrey, some may

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Speaker 5: Well, none better than Kyle Shanahan. And doing that a

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Speaker 7: Unbelievable execution Andrew Russ Sorkin and Jim Kramer. Great John guys.

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Speaker 2: I heard that too.

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Speaker 3: I was like, what, I'm glad, Oh my goodness, just magnificent.

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Speaker 3: The acronyms, kids, the Business Channel, in the running back

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Speaker 3: What you got from this weekend?

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Speaker 7: All right, let's get this started.

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Speaker 3: You're a non resident hater, typically start batting leadoff in

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Speaker 2: It might be.

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Speaker 9: You know, I am a Packer fan, and you know,

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Speaker 7: That was really hard.

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Speaker 9: I when you whenever it goes like that and you

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Speaker 6: What concerned you most about the Niners?

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Speaker 3: Just well, Christian McCaffrey, specifically McCaffrey, Yeah, yeah, McCaffrey, CNBC.

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Speaker 3: Remember they like they played Week one, they played a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Justin Herbert had a bad night. I don't I

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Speaker 6: I felt I felt bad, not that he was getting sacked,

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Speaker 6: So I don't know if it's because he's got this

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Speaker 7: Yeah, appendages.

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Speaker 9: He was like laying out, like completely stretched out, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was bad. I didn't seen any anybody get

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Speaker 2: Knees exactly exactly, And as far as the football part

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Speaker 3: That was one of my takeaways that when you really

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Speaker 3: And if you can get locked up by a defense

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Speaker 3: No, but the Roman Empire maybe collapsing, Isaac.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, same, I got the numbers here, Chargers top three

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Speaker 8: And they came up and said that we have no

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Speaker 10: So that's my hate what happened with the Chargers. But

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Speaker 3: Sounds like Greg Roman's got some splaining to do, all right, Kerry,

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Speaker 3: send us off. What do you hate from the weekend?

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Speaker 2: I hate to follow you guys after that, and I'm

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Speaker 2: people have talked about him being injury prone. I think

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Speaker 2: and this same back for years and years and years

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Speaker 2: Anthony Davis. I'm sorry, brother, you gotta get you gotta

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Speaker 2: get healthy. I do something noted Mavericks fan.

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Speaker 3: Somebody left here where everybody then said, now is that

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Speaker 2: Now? Is that the worst trade ever? Now? It is?

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Speaker 3: That's love and hate.

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443
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Speaker 3: should be. The media. The media up at arms over

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Speaker 3: Lynn Jones. Who is Lynn Jones? You ask, Well, you

445
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Speaker 3: know the name and now you know the voice.

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Speaker 11: You congrats on your success, young man. You hold your

447
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 11: head up all right. You guys have had a most

448
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Speaker 11: magnificent season. He did a great job out there today.

449
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Speaker 11: So you just hold your head up, okay, and ladies

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Speaker 11: and gentlemen, duvall you don't want all right, keep it going.

451
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Speaker 11: We got another season, okay. I appreciate take care of

452
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Speaker 11: much continued success to you and the entire team.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, ma'am.

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Speaker 3: That was the second question posed to Liam Cohen after

455
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Speaker 3: the Jaguars lost to the Bills yesterday by Lynn Jones

456
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Speaker 3: from the Jacksonville Free Press. And it wasn't even a question,

457
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Speaker 3: was not a question. It was not a question at all.

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Speaker 3: And the statements, the way that it was delivered, where

459
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Speaker 3: it was delivered, when it was delivered, has had credentialed

460
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Speaker 3: media up in arms, Big Jade journalists up in arms

461
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Speaker 3: over her comments. In a postgame press conference, Kerry Rhodes,

462
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Speaker 3: I ask you, did you have any problems with what

463
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Speaker 3: Lynn Jones did yesterday in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: I do not. I have no problem with it, and

465
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Speaker 2: I think it can actually help the professon in my opinion.

466
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Speaker 2: Right you're being paid to cover a thing, cover a subject,

467
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Speaker 2: cover a profession. Whatever you're being paid to do doesn't

468
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Speaker 2: mean you have to do it one way. I don't

469
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 2: think there's one way to skin any cat, right, And

470
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Speaker 2: so when you step into that space, if you're wanting

471
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Speaker 2: to build a rapport, especially beat reporters, if you're going

472
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Speaker 2: to be around the team all year all year long,

473
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Speaker 2: and you want to build a rapport with the players,

474
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Speaker 2: the coaches, the GM and the people that are in

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Speaker 2: that organization, why wouldn't you approach that situation with some

476
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Speaker 2: type of human kindness. Right, you have to do your job,

477
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Speaker 2: and I'm not saying people that do it the other

478
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Speaker 2: way is wrong either, But why can't somebody come in

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Speaker 2: and have empathy for somebody in the heat of the moment,

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Speaker 2: in the situation where obviously he was emotional, We could

481
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Speaker 2: see his face like he was going through moments of

482
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Speaker 2: grief with the team, and he was going through grief

483
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Speaker 2: with obviously his season ending earlier than it should have

484
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Speaker 2: in his opinion. But have some human decency in that

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Speaker 2: moment and share and have a open that line of communication.

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Speaker 2: Because if you get your track more, you attrack more

487
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Speaker 2: with kindness, I think. And so if I promised, if

488
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Speaker 2: she wanted to come back, and she wanted to ask

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Speaker 2: him a different question or a tough question, he would

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Speaker 2: be a little bit more open to having that question

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Speaker 2: and answering it honestly. Like I that's the thing I

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Speaker 2: see with this moment for me as a former player

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Speaker 2: and seeing people attack that job in another way.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that if she wanted to say those

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Speaker 3: words to Liam Cohen, and she's not a beat writer,

496
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Speaker 3: she's not following, she's not traveling with them, So I

497
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Speaker 3: think the familiarity there is not as much as it

498
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Speaker 3: would be with someone who deals with him on a

499
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Speaker 3: day to day basis. I think those people would probably

500
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Speaker 3: at the end of the press conference, or would be

501
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Speaker 3: at a press conference today with Liam Cohen or later

502
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Speaker 3: in the week, could say like, all right, end of

503
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Speaker 3: the year, coach, thanks so much for all of this,

504
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Speaker 3: just maybe not in a post game setting. When I

505
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Speaker 3: heard it yesterday, I was surprised it was the second question.

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Speaker 3: That's what was surprised. If it was the end, like I, yes,

507
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Speaker 3: was more understanding, but it didn't bother me. And I've

508
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Speaker 3: been in those situations before, and that's and I think

509
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Speaker 3: that's what is so surprising is for the people who

510
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Speaker 3: have been in the situations before having the sort of

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Speaker 3: response that they did. And I just find it embarrassing

512
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Speaker 3: for journalists to waste a paragraph explaining on how this

513
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Speaker 3: was so wrong it happened. It's done with. It was

514
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Speaker 3: twenty seconds. Move on, ask your other questions after that.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it is.

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Speaker 3: There are so many dynamics within a media scrum, in

517
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Speaker 3: a media postgame interview setting, and this not only is

518
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Speaker 3: at the podium, but this is also in the locker

519
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Speaker 3: room where I know you've been as a player, I've

520
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Speaker 3: been as a media member. Isaac lown Crown's been there,

521
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Speaker 3: Jason Stewart's been there, Iowa Sam I know has been there.

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Speaker 3: We've all been in locker rooms. There's different dynamics at play.

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Speaker 3: But one of the things that annoys me in my

524
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Speaker 3: specific profession of being a radio broadcaster is how the

525
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Speaker 3: other sort of entities will look out on you, so

526
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Speaker 3: for your own duties like theirs, is more important. And

527
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Speaker 3: that's where this arrogance in hearing all of the reporters

528
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Speaker 3: coming out and saying, yeah, this isn't it, This is

529
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Speaker 3: not where like we understand, it probably wasn't the normal protocol.

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Speaker 3: It was twenty seconds. Move on from it. You're not

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Speaker 3: having a line of people lining up and thanking Liam

532
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Speaker 3: Cohen anymore, and you're not gonna have a line of people.

533
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Speaker 3: By the way, the next person that does it to

534
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Speaker 3: a head coach is going to have. You know, it's

535
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Speaker 3: not gonna have nearly the effect that the comments by

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Speaker 3: Lynn Jones had. It happened, it's over with, it's done.

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Speaker 3: We make a mistake in live radio. We say there's

538
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Speaker 3: nothing you can do about it's live radio. It's over with,

539
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Speaker 3: it happened. That's how you should feel about this. This

540
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Speaker 3: isn't going to be a ground swell. By the way,

541
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Speaker 3: there are enough cheerleaders in postgame press conferences already that

542
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Speaker 3: will ask softball questions. I knew a reporter who would

543
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Speaker 3: ask a question that would carry that would be something like,

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Speaker 3: I'll just use you as the Jets for example. I

545
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Speaker 3: would say, Carrie, can you just explain how much Jonathan

546
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Speaker 3: Vilma means to you as a teammate and what he

547
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Speaker 3: has gone through this season? You give this poetic response

548
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Speaker 3: on what he means to you because he's one of

549
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Speaker 3: your former teammates and friends. And then guess what the

550
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Speaker 3: Jets social media department would take that clip and say,

551
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Speaker 3: look at what Carrie Rhodes has said or looked about

552
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Speaker 3: Jonathan Vilma, We're family here with the Jets. That's all

553
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Speaker 3: propaganda that happens at every press conference and people reporters

554
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Speaker 3: asking questions for their own good, right, like that's and

555
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Speaker 3: to have a problem with this in this moment, I

556
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Speaker 3: just feels so out of bounce of the people bending

557
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Speaker 3: over backwards to criticize. I said, they need to get

558
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Speaker 3: a life.

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Speaker 2: Then, And it's so crazy because you just said it,

560
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Speaker 2: Like the only thing you would have got out of

561
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Speaker 2: this moment was that it was the second question. Yeah,

562
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Speaker 2: but she's probably raising her hand in that room and

563
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Speaker 2: got called on in that moment, and she may not

564
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Speaker 2: have got another chance either to get that out right,

565
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Speaker 2: who knows, right, because he's not a normal media person

566
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Speaker 2: for that team, So to get her to get her

567
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Speaker 2: comment out to the world and say that today, coach

568
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Speaker 2: at that time, I don't have a problem with it

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Speaker 2: at all. And we've seen it even this year earlier. Right,

570
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Speaker 2: we had a situation in Cleveland where a media member

571
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Speaker 2: who's a normal beat writer there was telling Stefanski how

572
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Speaker 2: much he hoped he was back and all these like

573
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Speaker 2: these things happen, and so for the outrage in this situation,

574
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Speaker 2: it just didn't make any sense.

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Speaker 3: Was a glowing crown? You've been in these locker rooms?

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Speaker 3: What did you think about it?

577
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Speaker 7: Quick poll?

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Speaker 10: How do you guys think I'm gonna respond to this?

579
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Speaker 10: What do you think I thought of this?

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Speaker 2: Seriously? I thought you thought it was fine.

581
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Speaker 3: I thought you would have a problem with it.

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Speaker 6: Jason, No, I actually think you're one of the guys

583
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Speaker 6: that would have an issue with it.

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Speaker 10: Sam issue with it, Okay, Truly, I did not have

585
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Speaker 10: a problem with it whatsoever, because her intentions were good. However,

586
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Speaker 10: this huge kerfuffle, this reaction to this is a misdirected

587
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 10: criticism of what is an enormous problem in sports media,

588
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Speaker 10: and that is a multitude, a growing multitude of people

589
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 10: who do not know or do not care how to

590
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Speaker 10: handle themselves professionally. These days, press conferences are almost completely

591
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Speaker 10: useless because you've got amateurs and bloggers and podcasters and

592
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Speaker 10: actually people who work in the more traditional media who

593
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 10: were not there to cover the game, but they're there

594
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Speaker 10: for their brand and to show themselves off, asking questions

595
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Speaker 10: because they know the press conference is being televised, taking

596
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Speaker 10: selfies of themselves on the sideline or on the court.

597
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Speaker 10: And I saw this so many times during my career.

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Speaker 10: I'll give you a couple of examples, but it's even

599
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Speaker 10: worse today. I swear to God. There was somebody back

600
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Speaker 10: in the day who got a press credential to the

601
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Speaker 10: Lakers and cover the Lakers for the sole purpose of

602
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Speaker 10: the fact that on the side he thought he was

603
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Speaker 10: a scriptwriter and wanted to give Shack his script to

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Speaker 10: invest in a movie that he wrote a script for.

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Speaker 7: I swear to God.

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Speaker 1: And also it.

607
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Speaker 10: Got even worse as the years went along, and I

608
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Speaker 10: swear after Kobe Bryant I tragically passed away. The next

609
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Speaker 10: day or two, I found multiple instances of these peripheral

610
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Speaker 10: media people who covered him during their career literally calling

611
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Speaker 10: stations and pitching themselves to come on on these stations

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Speaker 10: and say, oh, I was tight with Kobe, I covered

613
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Speaker 10: him during my career, let me come on and talk

614
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Speaker 10: talk about him. And I was just horrified, especially then,

615
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Speaker 10: because people were using in this case Kobe's tragic passing

616
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Speaker 10: and even now they're using covering a sports game as

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Speaker 10: an excuse to just grow their personal brand.

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Speaker 3: Sure we see it for their own purposes, and that's

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Speaker 3: didn't seem like it was. Lynn Jones Jason Stewart, when

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Speaker 3: you heard this comments, what did you think from the

621
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Speaker 3: Jacksonville Reporter.

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Speaker 6: No, I thought it was cute. I thought it was sweet.

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Speaker 6: Postseason sports, NBA, the super Bowl for crime out. Well,

624
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Speaker 6: this is where you get these kind of I guess,

625
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Speaker 6: unconventional questions and exchanges people that aren't there, unconventional Like

626
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Speaker 6: to me, it was no big deal. But what I

627
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Speaker 6: hated the most was the rush to Twitter to condemn this.

628
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Speaker 6: It was like a race to try to prove that

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Speaker 6: I do this for a living. I know what it's like.

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Speaker 6: That's all they were saying. Yes, they thought that the

631
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Speaker 6: political wins was going to be against this woman, so

632
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Speaker 6: it was a race to be like I've been in

633
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Speaker 6: rooms totally inappropriate. And then over the last twenty four hours,

634
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Speaker 6: the political wins have gone back the other way, where

635
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Speaker 6: this is just a sweet thing and you're taking your

636
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Speaker 6: life way too serious. And it's so funny to see

637
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Speaker 6: those people reversing. Now, I think there's your back on this.

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Speaker 6: You're blank painting by blink.

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Speaker 10: I think they're directing legitimate anger about a growing problem

640
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Speaker 10: in sports media, but they're directing it at the wrong

641
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Speaker 10: person because unlike all these other selfie taking people. Her

642
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Speaker 10: intentions were act actually good, if not perfect.

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Speaker 3: Well I think as well. I think that there's there's

644
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Speaker 3: probably bigger picture as well with politics and how things

645
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: are run. But this is also just this is sports.

646
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Speaker 3: Sometimes I hate to use it because it sounds so flippant,

647
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: but it is. It is just sports. I also then

648
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: saw a lot of Jason. I know if you saw

649
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Speaker 3: this to what you're saying is there were people who

650
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Speaker 3: are else and then trying to defend because they've been

651
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Speaker 3: in that arena and I'm using air quotes and like

652
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Speaker 3: not the actual arena and stadium, but like they've been

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Speaker 3: in press conference, you know situations. That's why I bring

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Speaker 3: all of us like, in some shape or form, we've

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Speaker 3: all been in those scenarios. I've been there and have

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Speaker 3: been looked down on by TV crews and by newspaper writers.

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Speaker 3: When I'm trying to get a live interview for a

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Speaker 3: radio station and it takes up three minutes of the

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Speaker 3: number three wide receiver on a team at the end

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Speaker 3: of a media session and he's on a cell phone

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Speaker 3: maybe you know, talking to a showback at the network,

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Speaker 3: and I'm looked at as like I'm the bad guy

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Speaker 3: because I took up a small part of their will. Well,

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Speaker 3: you had forty seven minutes to talk to this. Robert

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Speaker 3: Lttal of Black Sports Online, who's you know, talked about

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Speaker 3: this topic a lot, just posted that Liam Cohen's postgame

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Speaker 3: press conference yesterday lasted for six minutes.

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Speaker 10: And the rest of his and the rest of his

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Speaker 10: postgame press conferences postgame press conference did not exactly sound

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Speaker 10: like Woodward and Bernstein asking Nixon questions, trying to put

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Speaker 10: that way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's just like this whole of like you

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Speaker 3: haven't been there, and this is this is an indictment.

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Speaker 3: There've been a lot of indictments in terms of like

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Speaker 3: how things are covered. To sit there and pin this

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Speaker 3: on Lynn Jones, And I actually thought Pat McAfee made

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Speaker 3: a really great point when he tweeted about this. And

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Speaker 3: I know that he's a target for for a lot

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Speaker 3: of different reasons, but his point was you actually did

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Speaker 3: get to see how Liam Cohen responded, And in a

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Speaker 3: world where you don't have the real vision of these players,

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Speaker 3: of these players and coaches, a lot of times it's manufactured.

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Speaker 3: Here in a raw moment where Liam Cohen and season

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Speaker 3: just ended, how he handled talking to the woman and

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Speaker 3: just politely smiling. I think that tells us a little

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Speaker 3: bit about Liam Cohen. I didn't think about it until

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Speaker 3: Pat mcafe brought up that point. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: that I don't think that was Lyn Jones's point. Actually

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Speaker 3: we have Lyn Jones and talking about it. Maybe here

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Speaker 3: it quickly, but I thought that was a great point.

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Speaker 3: Ayowa Sam Oh, you know.

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Speaker 9: I thought she she was sweet, and Liam Cohen's response

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Speaker 9: was sweet. She kind of reminded me of like your aunt,

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Speaker 9: like patting in the back after a tough loss. I

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Speaker 9: don't know if it's her job to console him that much,

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Speaker 9: but my main thing was just kind of went on

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Speaker 9: a little too long, like maybe it could have like

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Speaker 9: she she kind of repeated herself a little bit, and

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Speaker 9: then it just kind of got a little uncomfortable. But

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Speaker 9: other than that, he took it very well. He was smiling,

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Speaker 9: he was like thank you, was very deferential overall. Yeah,

702
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Speaker 9: like you know, yeah, like you guys said, the media

703
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Speaker 9: shows their like homersm for their own team in different ways,

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Speaker 9: and then this was a little bit more like you know,

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Speaker 9: out out there and and and visible, so it's like

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Speaker 9: we can't really you sound like a hypocrite if you're

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Speaker 9: gonna give this woman a hard time because a lot

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Speaker 9: of people are homers in the in the media, in

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Speaker 9: the locker room, or.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's the press conference. That's part of the point.

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Speaker 2: Sam. It was from the heart, So it was it

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Speaker 2: could have felt what you just said. It felt like

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Speaker 2: it was. It was such an authentic spot. It wasn't.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't something that was like predetermined in that moment.

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Speaker 2: I think she really felt him coming into the room

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Speaker 2: and wanted to share that.

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Speaker 10: And we're seeing this during the NFL playoffs, but all

718
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Speaker 10: these local TV affiliates, you're gonna have reporters out there

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Speaker 10: doing stand ups, all wearing team gear and cheering and

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Speaker 10: waving pom poms. You watched as these playoffs continue, You're

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Speaker 10: gonna see that.

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Speaker 3: Let's have Lynn Jones have the last word, as she

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Speaker 3: appeared on local Jacksonville TV talking about I Guess her

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Speaker 3: new found startup.

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Speaker 7: I don't take no fence to it.

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Speaker 11: Listen, I've been in this business more than twenty five years.

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Speaker 11: I've been in viewed from Barack Obama to Terry Bradshaw

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Speaker 11: to what was my guy named Tiger Wood? So you

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Speaker 11: can say whatever you've borne about fake news. I am

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Speaker 11: a member of the Black Press, the National Newspaper Association

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Speaker 11: that's been around more than one hundred years. I'm the

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Speaker 11: associate editor of the Jacksonville Free Press, one of the

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Speaker 11: more than two hundred and thirty African American newspapers still

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Speaker 11: printing in this country today. In Jacksonville, you had the

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Speaker 11: Florida Star since nineteen fifty five. We've been around since

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Speaker 11: nineteen eighty six. In Philadelphia, the Tribune, The Philly Tribune

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Speaker 11: has been printing since eighteen eighty four.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, the Michigan.

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Speaker 11: Chronicle has been printed since nineteen thirty five. So support

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Speaker 11: the Black Press so he can call me fake. Oh

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Speaker 11: you want two, honey, I've been doing this for a

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Speaker 11: long time.

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Speaker 2: gotten them all wrong?

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Speaker 10: Buffalo Bill's head coach Sean McDermott has just announced that

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Speaker 10: receiver Gabe Davis suffered a torn ACL in his left

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Speaker 10: knee during yesterday's victory at Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: It looked serious when he was being helped off. The

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Speaker 3: initial injury didn't look great. I know Carrie cringes whenever

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Speaker 3: he sees it. And then you saw Gabe Davis being

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Speaker 3: carted off with a towel over his head. Obviously started

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Speaker 3: his career in Buffalo, went to Jacksonville, and then it

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Speaker 3: didn't work out in Jacksonville, so then he just ended

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Speaker 3: up signing back with the Bills midway through the season.

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Speaker 3: And now a torn ACL, so a Buffalo wide receiving

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Speaker 3: corps that continues to get thinner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked bad as soon as it happened. The

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Speaker 2: hit was directly on the knee, and you know you

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Speaker 2: never want that to happen. So, you know, we've already

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Speaker 2: talked about Buffalo being fan at receiver, so it sucks

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Speaker 2: for him.

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Speaker 3: But what we haven't talked about is the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 3: being the team of destiny. Because the Chargers loss yesterday,

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Speaker 3: we know that there is no way that the Bills

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Speaker 3: could host another game at high Mark Stadium. That was

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Speaker 3: the only way that it could happen. However, the Gabe

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Speaker 3: Davis injury now goes along in the annals of the

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Speaker 3: things that have won against the Buffalo Bills. In this

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Speaker 3: run to Destiny to Super Bowl sixty. They'll win against Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: They'll come from behind victory the interception at the end

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Speaker 3: of the game off of Trevor Lawrence. This seal victory

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Speaker 3: was step one. I thought that the Bills had just

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Speaker 3: as good of a chance of losing as they did

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Speaker 3: winning yesterday. And I think a lot of people felt

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Speaker 3: that way. It's how they won. And with the depleted

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Speaker 3: wide receiving corps and with Josh Allen making plays with

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Speaker 3: a tush push that could have been the deciding factor

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Speaker 3: in the game because it was fourth out, ended up

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Speaker 3: being the Bills' chances of winning, you know, just increased

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Speaker 3: dramatically because of the eight yard tush push run that

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Speaker 3: they had. That's the stuff that these stories are made of.

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Speaker 3: So then you go to Denver and you knock off

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Speaker 3: the Broncos and beat them and then guess what old

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Speaker 3: division rival New England waiting for you in Foxborough. Oh,

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Speaker 3: that's how this is setting up. The Bills are at

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Speaker 3: team of destiny, Kerry Rhodes, You've.

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Speaker 2: Been saying it for a while, Dan, I need I

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Speaker 2: need a little bit more proof to jump on that bandwagon.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, you know Josh, I mean, Josh is

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Speaker 2: the best player in this playoffs right now. That's that's remaining.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, they got that on their side.

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Speaker 2: The team that's going to challenge your destiny call, Dan,

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Speaker 2: is going to be the Texans. They're gonna win tonight.

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Speaker 3: And some people think the Texans could be that team

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Speaker 3: of destiny. Kerry and I will be back tomorrow. Enjoy

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Speaker 3: the final game of wild Card Weekend tonight