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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio Happy Selection Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We are an hour away from the brackets being released,

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Speaker 1: There are two conference games still to be decided Conference

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Speaker 1: tournaments championship games. UAB could be the bid Steeler. We

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Speaker 1: know Michigan and Wisconsin aren't in the field, but the

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Speaker 1: American Athletic Championship right now going down eight minutes to go.

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Speaker 1: You heard Monci say Memphis though, with the lead over

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Speaker 1: the Blazers in that one.

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Speaker 2: You know what CBS does not want right now, over

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Speaker 2: time at Dicky's Arena. Baby, that's right, because I don't

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Speaker 2: know what they would do. You and I talked about

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Speaker 2: this the other day. So when Yukon was in aac purgatory,

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Speaker 2: there was actually one year where the conference championship game

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Speaker 2: went to overtime, but it was a one Big League

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Speaker 2: so and I think the teams were pretty comparable. Yukon

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Speaker 2: did not win that year. That was the Kevin Ali year.

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Speaker 2: We don't have to talk about that, but I bring

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Speaker 2: it up because I think they just kind of started

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Speaker 2: the bracket show and let the game finish and it

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Speaker 2: was like a whoever wins one slot him in as

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Speaker 2: a thirteen. Don't know if you could do that with

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Speaker 2: Memphis and UAB, as you said, if UAB wins, they're in.

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Speaker 1: If they don't, they're out.

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Speaker 2: And Memphis, by the way, with the opening up a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a lead, this would be a pseudo

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Speaker 2: impressive win for Memphis. I know that, you know. I

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Speaker 2: know that UAB is a team that won't be in

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Speaker 2: the tournament if they don't win here. But Memphis without

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Speaker 2: their starting point guard Tyres Hunter in this game has

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Speaker 2: been seen in a boots, so you hope he's okay.

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Speaker 2: But if Memphis were to win this game, this would

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Speaker 2: be a pretty solid win.

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Speaker 1: Fan. Would this be his like fourth NCAA tournament appearance

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Speaker 1: with four different schools? Tyres?

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Speaker 2: I mean, our buddy Doug Gottlieb had some major Tyres

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Speaker 2: H Hunter takes like three years ago, so Tyree Hunter

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Speaker 2: was like the original guy that had everything you could

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Speaker 2: want at a school and ended up transferring anyway, led

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Speaker 2: Iowa State to a Sweet sixteen in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: was the leadings. I don't know if he was leading scorer,

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Speaker 2: sixteen team and decided to enter the portal and that was,

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Speaker 2: you know, you gotta remember four years ago in college

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Speaker 2: well be fifty years ago, and we knew this portal

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Speaker 2: thing was coming and there was an nil component to

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Speaker 2: it and what did it all mean? But it was

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Speaker 2: kind of the guy that either didn't play or the

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Speaker 2: coach got fired or whatever. And Tyree Hunter was like

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Speaker 2: the original one that's like, yeah, I got everything I

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Speaker 2: could want here and I'm still gonna test the market anyway.

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Speaker 2: And I remember Doug among Many was outspoken about that decision.

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Speaker 1: But this would be I believe, his fourth tournament with

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Speaker 1: three teams.

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Speaker 2: Because two years at Texas, a Sweet sixteen at Iowa State, So.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, bit out of the trifecta. His college basketball

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Speaker 1: reference page, we'll have just a bunch of different jerseys

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Speaker 1: on it, but again Memphis. Aaron mentioned playing without Tyre's Hunter,

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Speaker 1: an hour from now, should be very rare. There's about

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Speaker 1: You would think it overtime could get wrapped up at

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Speaker 1: that point. The contingency plan, though, is you as a

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Speaker 1: TV show, have to have your graphics, have to have

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Speaker 1: everything set. There are very few people that know the bracket,

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Speaker 1: especially considering what happened a few years ago when the

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Speaker 1: bracket ended up getting leaked, and that's we're known, so

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Speaker 1: I think the security around it is even more tight.

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Speaker 1: And that's why you have to listen to us, because

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Speaker 1: once CBS announces it on their broadcast, it is one

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Speaker 1: what happens once CBS announces it. When we get the information,

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Speaker 1: we pass it along. That comes up at six o'clock

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Speaker 1: Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific. But there's still a lot

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Speaker 1: of college basketball to talk about, and Aaron, as we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been interesting. It's been interesting just to kind

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Speaker 2: think Michigan State losing in their semi final in the

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Speaker 2: Big Ten tournament helped. And I'll tell you this, Dan,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you've kind of heard or the

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Speaker 2: We'll see if the committee agrees or if that was

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Speaker 2: all kind of hearsay. But I just bring it up

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Speaker 2: because it feels like those four seem like, even coming

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Speaker 2: there's so many different dynamics that go into the bracket.

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Speaker 2: I know you know this, but for the audience, and

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Speaker 2: I know you're going to dive into it even deeper.

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Speaker 2: What is it A one seed in a two seed

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Speaker 2: can't be from the same I know it's something with

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Speaker 1: Can probably articulate it a little bit better than I can.

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Speaker 1: So they'll put the top two seeds. You would not

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Speaker 1: want the top two seeds being from the same conference. Now,

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Speaker 1: it should be very rare. But it's very rare that

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Speaker 1: Like if you had nine, that would break the rule

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Speaker 1: felt like it was like a seven seed Cincinnati that

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Speaker 2: He took the words right on I'm out twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: Remember Cincinnati was in the Big East, yeah, Yukon was

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Speaker 2: But as as you can probably guess, in the least

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Speaker 2: surprising news ever, Yukon beat Cincinnati, and then Mick Cronin

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Speaker 2: proceeded to complain about it NonStop for a very long time.

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Speaker 1: It would be the three to six matchup then, because

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Speaker 1: then the West Region came out here and Yukon ended up.

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Speaker 1: I think Arizona was the the two seed because Duke

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Speaker 1: it was the two, That's what it was. It was

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Speaker 1: Arizona State. I'll tell you what. Forget about twenty eleven

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Speaker 1: first year that he had a second round conference matchup. Now,

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Speaker 1: the point that we're getting to is you don't want

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Speaker 1: which I think and I think when the bracket comes out, Aaron,

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see Duke is the No. One

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Speaker 1: tell you what I know that they got to run

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Speaker 1: for their money from North Carolina. They pulled away from

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Speaker 1: they've they showed well enough without him, and the win

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Speaker 2: So I will tell you this, I'm not disagreeing with

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Speaker 2: I think there's a chance as well. I think that

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Speaker 2: be a little bit of Duke bias because here's why.

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Speaker 2: Right now they have out of all the number one

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Speaker 2: that you could possibly have. Dan coming into today, Florida

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Speaker 2: has eleven quad one wins or coming in had ten.

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Speaker 2: They just picked up their eleventh. Houston has fourteen, Auburn

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Speaker 2: has sixteen. And if the argument is well, that Duke

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Speaker 2: beat Auburn at home, and again I'm not saying that

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Speaker 2: and so more quad one wins. The only metric, and

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Speaker 2: thirty and four coming into this tournament with eleven quad

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Speaker 2: I think it would set up for an interesting I

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Speaker 2: don't think it'd be Duke bias, but I think it

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Speaker 2: and I have talked about as we filled in all

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Speaker 2: bracket being made a day two three in advance? Because

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Speaker 2: every metric on Florida's resume, except for overall wins, would

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Speaker 2: don't give it to Auburn as duke what in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: If we think the number ones are Duke, Auburn, Houston,

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Speaker 2: And this is where to your point, it gets into.

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Speaker 2: So Saint John's would be in a region with either

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Speaker 2: old school coaches, Saint John's, Michigan State neither are great

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Speaker 2: I would say of all the twos without knowing who

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Speaker 1: Rest of the bracket. I would probably say Michigan State, Okay,

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Speaker 2: And Saint John's can't be a two because yes, yeah, correct, yeah,

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Speaker 2: It used to be jim nantz leading into sixty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Duke in the Elite eight. But unfortunately, unless Saint John's

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Speaker 2: But then once the bracket has actually formed, their many

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Speaker 1: And there is no dominant team out west. Gonzaga by

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Speaker 2: By the way, we had a net issue in the

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Speaker 2: this year. Colorado State solidified, but they were on the

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Speaker 2: bubble anyway. It's just not what's gonna happen with Boise

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Speaker 2: State in the Mountain West. Yeah, I felt like it

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Speaker 2: was a good week. It was a good week if

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Speaker 2: you're on the bubble. But if you're one of those

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Speaker 2: like first five or six teams that's in and not

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Speaker 2: really on the bubble, but sort of like I think

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Speaker 2: in Oklahoma and Arkansas would fall under that mix, it

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Speaker 2: was a good week for you because the conference tournaments

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Speaker 2: have actually largely gone to plan.

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Michigan tied up at fifty three with a

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Speaker 1: minute seventeen and their Big Ten championship game in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: they really don't want this one to go into overtime

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Speaker 1: Athletic Conference, it's on a different network. CBS is like,

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Speaker 1: Chris Purfetter Technical producer, Shay Executive producing Today, let's go

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Speaker 1: to Monty Belanios, who's at the news desk, who can

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Speaker 1: give us an update of what's happening in the final

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Speaker 1: two games of all of the conference tournaments before we

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Speaker 1: finally get to the bracket reveal. Moncey, what's happening in

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Speaker 1: college heaps?

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Speaker 4: Oh, you know, it's a close one between Wisconsin and

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Speaker 4: Michigan at the Big Ten Championship. The Badgers just at

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Speaker 4: the ball with a chance to tie the game. They're

485
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Speaker 4: down by two. They didn't get a bucket. So Michigan

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Speaker 4: right now with the lead fifty five to fifty three,

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Speaker 4: fourteen seconds to go, they have the ball. They just

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Speaker 4: got fouled. So now the Wolverines just have to hold

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Speaker 4: on and they are the Big Ten champions Tournament champions,

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Speaker 4: tournament champions.

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Speaker 1: Yes, a big day, and you didn't say anything wrong,

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Speaker 1: But there is quite you get in these arguments in

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Speaker 1: these fan bases of like who's the real champion? Like, uh,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna hang a banner for a tournament championship?

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Speaker 4: Come on, yes, yes I am yeah, that's the answer.

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Speaker 2: Or you could be like U cla, yeah, we only

497
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Speaker 2: hang National Championship banners. Paulie, Oh yeah, it's gonna be

498
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Speaker 2: a while. It's been thirty years in the counting, so

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Speaker 2: have fun with that.

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Speaker 1: Ben Hollins goes to three straight you know, nothing to

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Speaker 1: show Ford and the raft.

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Speaker 4: No, put it up, kids, put it up whatever you want.

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Speaker 4: At the AAC Championship Final in the tournament, I should

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Speaker 4: I say all those words just to make sure. Uh,

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Speaker 4: with about two and a half minutes to go in

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Speaker 4: that one, and it looks like sixteen drength Memphis is

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Speaker 4: gonna win this one. They're up on u AB seventy

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Speaker 4: nine to sixty six. So again down to the final

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Speaker 4: two minutes. And earlier today the teams that won their tournaments.

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Speaker 4: Yale won the IVY League Tournament, Florida took down the

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Speaker 4: s won the SEC tournament. They took down number eight

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Speaker 4: Ton of C eighty six to seventy seven, and VCU

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Speaker 4: won the Atlantic Ten. In the NBA, right now, give

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Speaker 4: you guys a quick up date with the Lakers in

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Speaker 4: the sun la is up eighty three seventy one after

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Speaker 4: three quarters. Luka danc Is twenty eight points, eight rebounds,

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Speaker 4: eight assists.

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Speaker 1: As for Lebron James.

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Speaker 4: He's doing on court workouts, but he's still going to

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Speaker 4: be about a week out until he can return from

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Speaker 4: that groin injury. According to ESPN, the Magic snapped the

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Speaker 4: Caps sixteen game winning streak today or Lando wins. It

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Speaker 4: went away to one ZH three Palo Vankaro twenty four points,

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Speaker 4: eleven rebounds and seven assists. The final round of the

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Speaker 4: Players Championship is supposed to be back in running because

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Speaker 4: they had weather beautiful beautiful, so they're back and running.

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Speaker 4: But Rory McElroy has been in the lead today at

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Speaker 4: twelve underd part overall in baseball guys, Mookie Bets, Dodger shortstop,

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Speaker 4: apparently is sick.

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Speaker 1: He's dealing with.

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Speaker 4: Like flu like symptoms. They don't think he's going to

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Speaker 4: be ready for Opening Day against the Chicago Cubs in

533
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Speaker 4: Japan on Tuesday, so you may not see Mooki Bets

534
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Speaker 4: out there. Joey Gallo was released from the White Sox

535
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Speaker 4: and now there's a story that he's going to pitch.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Outfielder Joey Gallo has been released by the White Sox

538
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Speaker 4: because he wants to pitch.

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Speaker 2: See, by the way, I'm my wife once called Mookie Bets,

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Speaker 2: Bookie Mets, and every time I hear they were playing

541
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Speaker 2: the Mets too, She's like, oh, that's Bookie Mets, right,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like what, You're.

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Speaker 1: Like, sure, yeah, sure, why not? Now I'm going to

544
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Speaker 1: say that. Now that's gonna be stuck in my head.

545
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it, like you can mix them wrong

546
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Speaker 1: Boogie Knights, it's kind of close to that, but Mets

547
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Speaker 1: the whole deal.

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Speaker 2: And then my buddy who's a Mets fan, said, oh,

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Speaker 2: that was show Hayes interpreter, right, And then it went

550
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Speaker 2: completely off the rails.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, so my wife started a little

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Speaker 1: you hang with a funny crewer. I know, yeah, I

553
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Speaker 1: like that. I just laughed at it because it was funny.

554
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Speaker 1: I feel bad for Mookie Bets because there's nothing worse,

555
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Speaker 1: and I don't care if you're a professional baseball player

556
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Speaker 1: about to be sick get away from home.

557
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Speaker 2: Oh that's a life hack, like worst worst life situations

558
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Speaker 2: in the world.

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Speaker 4: Apparently he was sick before they left and he just

560
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Speaker 4: still went with them, and that he tried to do

561
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 4: work a workout today and he just has no energy.

562
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Speaker 1: I know, we have a bracket to break. Down.

563
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Speaker 2: But have you ever been ready to take a trip

564
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: and convinced yourself that you're sick and you're not actually sick?

565
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: Like I just went to Utah for four days and

566
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Speaker 2: I was like I was convinced on the plane there.

567
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: I was like, this is going to be terrible. I'm

568
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Speaker 2: not gonna make it. I'm gonna be in the hotel

569
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Speaker 2: room the whole time. Then I ended up being fine.

570
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Speaker 2: I a little tickle, but you know.

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Speaker 1: I have a sick NC DOUBLEA tournament story. Oh, I've

572
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: told you this before, so you know this what's us.

573
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: When I was in high school, we would our spring

574
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: break would be going to first and second round n

575
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Speaker 1: CUBAA tournament games. When I was at junior in high school,

576
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: there weren't any close. My mom treated me to a

577
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Speaker 1: trip to the Then it was the Southeast Southeast Regional

578
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Speaker 1: Final semifinals and finals in Knoxville, Tennessee. They said Purdue Duke,

579
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Speaker 1: Kansas and Marquette and Glenn Robinson Grant Hill. Nineteen ninety four.

580
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: I came down with tonselitis and then mono. I only

581
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Speaker 1: saw the inside of my hotel room in Knoxville for

582
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Speaker 1: three days, and then we just decided we better go

583
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Speaker 1: back home. I just get that mono though. Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: it was wid after a lot of necking. Yeah yeah,

585
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: that's uh, but no, it's stunk. And yeah, being on

586
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: vacation nothing worse than being sick.

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00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 4: That's rough.

588
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: It is. It is rough, by the.

589
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Speaker 2: Way, about what an eighteen hour flight to just get

590
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Speaker 2: sick in other country?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we did clear up to twenty eleven brackets.

592
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Speaker 1: San Diego State was the two seed, Yukon was the

593
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: three seeds. Cincinnati was the sixth seed that year. So

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00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: you were correct in that three to six matchup that

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00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: we were trying to trying to clear up earlier. By

596
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: the way, in this Big Ten championship game that Michigan

597
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: is now won, they are the Big Ten Tournament champions.

598
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: When Michigan State lost today and they lost a close

599
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Speaker 1: game to Wisconsin, I don't think that tom Izzo was

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Speaker 1: that mad. And when you look at the run that

601
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Speaker 1: you went through tip of the captain Michigan, I think

602
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: both of these teams were a bit gassed. Michigan did

603
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: play on Sunday of last week as well, but Wisconsin

604
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: had four games in four days. For as great as

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Speaker 1: it was for them, to go on this run. I'm

606
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: not sure on how much it's going to improve their

607
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: seating and Wisconsin will now be a team to watch.

608
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: To be okay, where are they seated? They should be

609
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: playing in Milwaukee for the first two games, but you

610
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: mentioned Iowa stayed earlier. They lost Johnny Davis in that

611
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two game and i was State and ended

612
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: up knocking them off in Milwaukee. So it's not a

613
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Speaker 1: fix all to be close to home. But I'm curious

614
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: to see if a four games in four days deal

615
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: for a power conference team that plays on Sunday, if

616
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: that will have any effect on them. Because the Tennessee

617
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: and Florida game, they were those teams already advanced to

618
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Speaker 1: the quarterfinals. Wisconsin had to play an extra game being

619
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Speaker 1: the fifth seed in the Big Ten. Yeah, and you

620
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: just mentioned the SEC.

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Speaker 2: That was a big talking point coming in as a

622
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Speaker 2: conference with probably thirteen maybe fourteen NCAA tournament bids.

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Speaker 1: Is it the worst thing?

624
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: Like, like, Okay, you gotta play this team, then you

625
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: play Auburn, then you gotta play Tennessee, play this I

626
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: guess whatever, play this team. You gotta play Auburn, then

627
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: you play Florida, you know, and it's like, is it

628
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: the worst thing to get home? Like as an example,

629
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Speaker 2: like Ark and Saw felt like they kind of couldn't

630
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: lose to South Carolina.

631
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Speaker 1: They don't.

632
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: They lose on a buzzer beat at Old Miss, But

633
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: they're a team that's got three or four guys that

634
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: are battling injuries right now. I know guys that cover

635
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: that team that are like, behind the scenes, they aren't

636
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: that mad that they're not going to be in Nashville

637
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Speaker 2: till Saturday or Sunday. And so it's an interesting thing.

638
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: And I think you and I talked about it the

639
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 2: other day. You know, I've done a few shows here,

640
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: so a lot of the conversations are running together. Is

641
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 2: I love conference tournaments. I also understand that they are

642
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: one not the best way to determine who to send

643
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: for a one big league And I also know, as

644
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: you know we kind of saw with Duke, and thankfully

645
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: there were no side effects to it, it can have

646
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: a wear down effect, and it might for these teams

647
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: playing in the Big Ten Championship, in the SEC Championship, whatever.

648
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: But I think it's a good point by you about Wisconsin,

649
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: especially playing its fourth game in four day.

650
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Speaker 1: We laugh at the brackets. We have so much fun

651
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: when we see the West Coast Conference in the sun

652
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: Belt this year was you had to print your bracket

653
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: on landscape because it was so long. That's the way

654
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: that you could get the bracket. But those are done.

655
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: Those are done so they can have their best foot

656
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: forward when it comes to the tournament, so their best

657
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: team's advance. I'm not so sure, Aaron. Considering you and

658
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: I were talking this week of when the Big twelve

659
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: tournament started, the games were on ESPN plus. When the

660
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: Big Ten tournaments started, there are games on Peacock, and

661
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: I know that they're giving inventory to those streaming services.

662
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: But you're like, all right, it's the conference tournament. You

663
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: and I are feeling like, all right, at least be

664
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: on ESPN two if you're the Big ten network. Yeah yeah,

665
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: or something like that if you're the Big ten. But

666
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't the case, and so you're already leaving out

667
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: some schools from your bracket. For whatever reason, you keep

668
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: it at fifteen. If you wanted to play more games,

669
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: you could just include everybody and figure out a way

670
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: to do it, or you could even try to figure

671
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: out a way to maybe protect a five, six or

672
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: seven seed because Wisconsin. Wisconsin's in the running for a

673
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: three seed in the bracket, and now they're four games

674
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: in four days. If they do go to Milwaukee, which

675
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: I think they will by the way the way I

676
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: worked it out as well, I think Michigan actually will

677
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: also be in Milwaukee. We'll find out in the next hour.

678
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: But the point is is you got to figure out

679
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: a way to give them a little rest.

680
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: Do you think this might be stupid and irrelevant, but

681
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: do you think there's any type of out of sight,

682
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: out of mind for the bubble team? So like Xavier

683
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: on the bubble, both their games are on Peacock. I'm

684
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: sure that the committee has every game imaginable lined up,

685
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: but it just felt like they were out of the spotlight.

686
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: Ohio State loses on Peacock. It's not out of you know,

687
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: I just it feels like those were teams that it's

688
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: just like, Oh, I didn't even know they were playing.

689
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: Oh they're playing, Oh they lost okay on in the

690
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: next game.

691
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

692
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it probably means nothing, but it was just

693
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: something I was thinking about when you were talking.

694
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: I don't think in Ohio State's case, because I think

695
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: that Ohio State's so far off the bubble. If there

696
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: were any questions, they were answered by losing Shiowa in

697
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: the way that they did earlier in the week. Xavier

698
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: maybe a different story. I think Xavier's firmly on the bubble.

699
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of final first four projections for them.

700
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: I should say I don't know, though, because I think

701
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: what happens is we get wrapped up into everything and

702
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: seeing and are taking things in real time. I do

703
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: think that the committee looks at it differently.

704
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: I totally fair, and you know, like you said, you know,

705
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: these these are games that would have been decided on Wednesday.

706
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: You know, Xavior played on Thursday, but you get to Sunday.

707
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: With the way the world, with the way the world

708
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: works in all of the games that we have seen,

709
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: I guess it does become a little bit of an

710
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: out of sight, out of mind variable.

711
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: He's Aaron Torres, I'm Dan Byer. We are twenty minutes

712
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: away from the bracket being released, and as soon as

713
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: they announce it on CBS, we will announce it to

714
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: you here on Fox Sports Radio. I want to remind

715
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: you to be sure to check out the Fox Sports

716
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: Radio YouTube channel. There's a ton of great videos for

717
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: many of our Fox Sports Radio shows. Just search Fox

718
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see a whole bunch

719
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: of video highlights from our shows. And be sure to

720
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: subscribe so you always have instant access to our Fox

721
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Again, the bracket coming up

722
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: in about twenty minutes or so will have the full breakdown,

723
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: will reveal the field of sixty eight for you. So

724
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: if you're driving in your car, maybe you're in a

725
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: warm area of the country and doing some Sunday yard

726
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: work trying to get ready for the spring, please stick around.

727
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna have all the information that you need right here.

728
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: On Fox Sports Radio. He is erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer.

729
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: Some more bracket quirks, some special teams, and ah yes,

730
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: that bubble we talked about, we'll all talk about it

731
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: next on Fox Sports Radio.

732
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

733
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: Radio Fox Sports Sunday. He's erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer,

734
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: a special selection Sunday show. Find Aaron at Aaron Underscore Torres.

735
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox Selection

736
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: Sunday Brackets being released. CBS has the countdown on twelve

737
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: minutes and they'll start with the number one overall seed

738
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: and then they dive right into the brackets. The number

739
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: one overall seed is up for debate. I said earlier,

740
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be Duke. Aaron had information

741
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: that said maybe it could be otherwise, could be Auburn.

742
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: We think is the top two. I don't. I don't

743
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: have any information.

744
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: I just think the thing, like, I just found it

745
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 2: interesting after Tennessee beat Auburn yesterday. The single thing that

746
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: Duke's argument is for the number one overall seed is

747
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: that they had that win against against Auburn. The problem

748
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: is now Alabama, Tennessee, and Florida all have wins against Auburn.

749
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: So I just thought that if that's like the key

750
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 2: bullet point on your on your resume, I just don't

751
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: know if it carries as much weight as it did

752
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: two or three weeks ago.

753
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: Sure, and the committee may look at it as a

754
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: whole and take all four of those teams that we

755
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: feel will be number one seeds and could mix it up.

756
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: I think the through the telescope that we look at

757
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: it through because of the value of the conference tournament,

758
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: or should say lack there of the value of winning

759
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: the conference tournament. From what we've seen in the past,

760
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: Florida was a borderline one before the tournament. So now

761
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: they win the conference tournament earlier today, we think that

762
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: they solidified their one, but I don't know if it's

763
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: enough to move them up. So that kind of eliminates

764
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: them and puts Alabama and Tennessee in that two group.

765
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: So then it's down to Duke, Auburn and Houston, a

766
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: team that nobody is talking about. With Houston that I

767
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: know you're you're fond of, it's the point of, all right,

768
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: if it is Duke Auburn, which has seemingly been the

769
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: theme throughout the year, that if you're ultimately going to

770
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: just try to decide with the two, wouldn't it be

771
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: great if they played?

772
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 5: Oh?

773
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: They did, sure, you know. So there's the outcome that's

774
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: but again that may not be how the committee ends

775
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: up looking to you. So final answer, do you believe

776
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: you said you believe I think Duke will be number one? Yes,

777
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: LA number one, number one.

778
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: I think there is certainly an argument, and by the way,

779
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: I was just making the counter argument for why I

780
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: think the resume.

781
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: If you're going to argue for Duke is the.

782
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: Number one overall seed, you then have to then probably

783
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: make the argument for Florida, which I agree with you.

784
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: I don't think the committee will do. And I will

785
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: say you mentioned it earlier. The final ten games used

786
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: to be a metric that the committee uses. They no

787
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: longer use it. They basically felt like, you know, you

788
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: shouldn't be punishing teams for getting good wins in the

789
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: out of conference. But I bring it up because I

790
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 2: do think recency bias. It's hard not to have some

791
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: degree of it. We are human beings. I know you're

792
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: not supposed to, but I would imagine that with the

793
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: way Duke looked at by the way, it sounds weird

794
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: because it be counterintuitive. I think there was a thought,

795
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: what if Duke loses without Cooper flag. But the way

796
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 2: that I know they struggle with Carolina, but the way

797
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: that they really kind of control Louisville the entire second half,

798
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: a team that we're looking at as a six to

799
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: seven seed and really dominated that game, I think that

800
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: actually helps the argument of like, look at what they

801
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: did to that team without Cooper flag. Imagine how good

802
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 2: they'll be and we all assume that he does come back.

803
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: One overall theme and we're going to get to the

804
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: bubble in like sixty seconds. I just want to make

805
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: this point. We talked about how because of the number

806
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: of SEC teams that are atop the top three of

807
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: the top eight, we believe how you wouldn't have them

808
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: in the same in the same r region being a

809
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: one and a two seed. There also is another deal.

810
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: When you're talking about the Arkansaws of the world, the

811
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you want to put

812
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: an ole miss in there, but we'll talk about teams

813
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: who are seven, eight, nine, to ten somewhere in that world.

814
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: When you're talking about seeding these teams, they can't be

815
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: an eight or nine. So now you're gonna have an

816
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: SEC team not only be opposite of Duke as a

817
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: two very likely because you're putting thirteen to fourteen, you know,

818
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: schools in the bracket very likely against either Duke or

819
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: Houston in that second round, just because I don't think

820
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: it would be fair to a number one seed of

821
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: Florida or Auburn to have to face a conference foe

822
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: in the second round.

823
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: It's amazing you know looking at all these brackets, and

824
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: we'll get our official bracket here in eight minutes. But

825
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: just how you know all you know Alabama is a

826
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: two seed versus say, you know Kentucky as a potential

827
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: or not Kentucky Arkansas is a ten seed or Oklahore.

828
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: You know teams that you literally just played a week

829
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: or two ago that could have been in you or

830
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: did beat you. And how like you said, with thirteen teams,

831
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 2: there's no way that there isn't some overlap, just.

832
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: Like you know, Mississippi State could be there in an

833
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: eight to nine you know matchup, and I don't think

834
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: it would be fair to either of the SEC schools

835
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: to have to face them in the second round. He

836
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: is Aaron Torres, I'm Dan Byert. Does North Carolina get in?

837
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

838
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,479
Speaker 2: I really, again, it shouldn't come down to one game,

839
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: but I think the perception of not being able to

840
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: beat Duke when Duke was not at full strength and

841
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: not having a resume before that, I think you could

842
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 2: at least make a little bit.

843
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: Of an argument. I just I'll be sure. No, I don't.

844
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

845
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: I think that even these SEC teams that have you know,

846
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: ten eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen losses. You know, they also

847
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: have several wins that are significantly better than anything North

848
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 2: Carolina did, So I don't think Carolina.

849
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: It would be the first time in history that a

850
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: team could lose a bid to the NCAA tournament on

851
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: a lane violation. Yeah, that's how close, like you talked

852
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: about and again, and maybe it's not that close because

853
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: of the twelve opportunities they had to win a group

854
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: of one game. But North Carolina, what about Indiana and

855
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: the Hoosiers?

856
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: You know they at least have four quad one wins.

857
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: I think they're four and thirteen in quad one. It's

858
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: not great. It shows you how weak the bubble is.

859
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: All indications seem to be that they will be in

860
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: another one. By the way, didn't really the thing with them.

861
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: They don't have a ton of great wins but zero

862
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: bad losses. I will say Indiana is headed to Dayton.

863
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: All right, and a couple of others.

864
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: For you Texas, I think Texas is out fifteen losses

865
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 2: at some point. Overall, wins and losses is not a metric.

866
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: I just think it's hard fifteen losses, six and twelve

867
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: in SEC play. No, by the way, important thing with them,

868
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 2: no greade out of conference wins. Arkansas is great out

869
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: of conference wins, Oklahoma does, Texas does not. Boise State

870
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: the first team in last team out. I think they're

871
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: either sixty eight or sixty nine.

872
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: I really do.

873
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: It's just you feel bad. They made it to the

874
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: conference championship game. They upset New Mexico. They beat two

875
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament caliber teams in San Diego, state of New Mexico.

876
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's not and any hope for

877
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: the ant eaters of U c Ervine. We had a

878
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: big debate about this on our show on Saturday night.

879
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: I think they're out. He's eron Torres. I'm Dan Byer.

880
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: It is almost that time. We bring you the field

881
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: of sixty eight for the twenty twenty five NCABLEA Tournament

882
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: next on Fox Sports Radio.

883
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 6: Ah.

884
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: Yes, it is that time, as we now await the

885
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: bracket for the twenty twenty five NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament,

886
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,120
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890
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: should be. So we're gonna try to mirror what CBS

891
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: does and get you the brackets as they are announced.

892
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 1: We expect the number one overall seed to be announced

893
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: at any point for those that are wondering Aeron torres.

894
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: In our four regions, the regional finals will be held

895
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: in the East Region in Newark, New Jersey, the West

896
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: Region in San Francisco, Midwest Region, and Indianapolis in the

897
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: South region in Atlanta. The East West will be the

898
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: Thursday Saturday of the regional semifinals and finals, while the

899
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: Indianapolis and Atlanta sites in the Midwest and South will

900
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: be Friday Sunday games. This is obviously two weeks from now,

901
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: but I bring up the point when you look at

902
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: a team like BYU, we know BYU is gonna have

903
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: to be in a Thursday Saturday match up because the

904
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: school does not play athletic events on Sundays, and so

905
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 1: then they'll have to be put in a region, probably

906
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: in the East or West because of the Thursday Saturday

907
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: games that are played in those regions. Just one of

908
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: the bracket things you have to take into accounts.

909
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: By the way, I know we got to be quick

910
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: here because we're going to get information soon. But if

911
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: Duke is the number one overall seed, I think we've

912
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: all defaulted to they would want to play in Newark.

913
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: Obviously Atlanta geographically probably a little bit closer. They obviously

914
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: large alumni base in Newark. I would assume that they

915
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: would still take Newark. But again, the number one overall

916
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: seed has priority on where they would play.

917
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 1: Region, and that would be if they went to Newark,

918
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: would be beneficial to Auburn, which would just have a

919
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: couple hour drive to Atlanta for that South region so

920
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: much to get to first and second round sites. For

921
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: those that don't know, the Thursday Saturday games will be

922
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: in Denver, Wichita, Providence, Rhode Island, and Lexington, Kentucky at

923
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: Rupp Arena. The Friday Sunday sites are Raleigh, Milwaukee, Seattle,

924
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: and Oakland Aaron Torres. Let's get it going. Auburn appears

925
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: to be the number one seed in the South Region.

926
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: They are your number one overall seed. I was wrong.

927
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: Now it is the Auburn Tigers.

928
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: There was certainly an argument for Duke Auburn was sixteen

929
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: Quad one wins, by far, the most in college basketball.

930
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: Not totally surprised. Auburn will face the winner of Alabama

931
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: State in Saint Francis, playing a first four game in

932
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: Dayton coming up on Tuesday. Saint Francis Cinderella run to

933
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: the tournament and they get the first four game in

934
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: Dayton coming up on Tuesday.

935
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 2: Eight number one seed Central Connecticut in the NEC Championship game.

936
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: The eighth seed Thursday in Lexington. Short drive for the

937
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: Louisville Cardinals. There's their first controversy right there. Auburn's going

938
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: to be playing as the one seed potentially again against

939
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: Louisville in Lexington. I would not be happy if I

940
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: was Bruce Pearl right now. So Louisville will take on

941
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: the Creighton Blue Jays from the Big East to nine

942
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: seed Creyton making it all the way to the Big

943
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: East Championship game last night before losing to Saint John's.

944
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's what it is right there, Louisville

945
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: potentially having a significant home court advantage over Auburn.

946
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: I'm curious to hear Bruce Pearl on that throughout the night. Well,

947
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: this is your first Sunday doesn't matter. Michigan just won

948
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: the Big Ten tournament. Michigan is now a five seed,

949
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: a five seed in the South Region. They will be

950
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: playing in Denver, Colorado. I thought they had a legit

951
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: shot of being a three seed playing in Milwaukee. Now

952
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna play at altitude on a short week and

953
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: taking on You see San Diego making their first ever

954
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: appearance in the NCAA tournaments.

955
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this Thursday regional means that Michigan will

956
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 2: have to fly out Tuesday afternoon for media availability Wednesday,

957
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: so they probably don't get back to campus till late tonight.

958
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: Have to fly out Tuesday afternoon. That is a short,

959
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: short turnaround for them.

960
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: So the other Thursday game, a four to thirteen matchup

961
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: in Denver is Texas A and M from the SEC.

962
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: I did get this one right. You could even see

963
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: it on the paper. Texas A and M the second

964
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: SEC team that we've seen in the bracket. They will

965
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: face the winner of the IVY League. Speaking of short weeks, Yale.

966
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: So the Aggies against Yale, Well, I'll tell you what.

967
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: Yale of course pulled off the upset against Auburn and

968
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: Round one another last year, another SEC opponent in twenty

969
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 2: twenty five.

970
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: So that's your first nine schools. Because we have the

971
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: two sixteen seeds. Now these are Friday games in Milwaukee.

972
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: Chris Beard and ole Miss will be the sixth seed

973
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: in the South Region. Ole Miss really solid team. Oh

974
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: look who they're playing, San Diego State or North Carolina.

975
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 1: The tar Heels get in San Diego State North Carolina

976
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: two of the final teams in this year's bracket.

977
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: Shock one up for Torres being dead wrong. I did

978
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 2: not think North Carolina had an argument. They will play

979
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: on Wednesday night in Date and it appears.

980
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: Curious to see if it's Wisconsin here again a Milwaukee

981
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: site and for a short turnaround it's going to be

982
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: Iowa State instead. Iowa State. It's the three seed in Milwaukee.

983
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 1: There could be another one, but Michigan's seeding of five

984
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: is interesting to see how it plays out for the

985
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: rest of the Big Ten. Iowa State, a three seed,

986
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: will face Lipscomb Friday afternoon in Milwaukee.

987
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: Iowa State's got to get healthy. Two of their top

988
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: scores have been in and out of the lineup the

989
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: last couple weeks.

990
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to guess and say that it's the afternoon.

991
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: But they'll face Lipscomb, Iowa State will on Friday seven

992
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: to ten. Matchup in the South is Marquette against New

993
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: Mexico own Richard Bettino.

994
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, in New Mexico regular season champs, really solid team.

995
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: Marquette is struggling coming down the stretch. I don't want

996
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: to do the whole thing that everybody hates, but I

997
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: could see upset potential if you will, in that ten

998
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: seven game.

999
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: And that's a Cleveland game on Friday. The two seed

1000
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: is Michigan State, So Michigan State will be the two

1001
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: seed in Cleveland coming up on Friday, and Tomzo and

1002
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: the Spartans will end up facing as the fifteen seed.

1003
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: Spending a lot of time Bryant. Bryant Bulldogs out of

1004
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: Rhode Island. Phil Martelli Junior, Phil Martelli Junior the head

1005
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: coach there. Of course, his dad was the longtime Saint

1006
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: Joe's head coach. I saw them embrace, giving each other

1007
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: a big hug after they clinched beating Maine in the

1008
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: championship game. Did Bryant handedly but Maine trying to get

1009
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: to the tournament by the and said it's Brian to

1010
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 1: Bryant now gets to deal with Tommyzo and Michigan State Iowa.

1011
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: Sam bringing up a great point last night. Very weird

1012
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: not seeing the Vermont Catamounts in the America East Championship game.

1013
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: It feels like the first time in about thirty years

1014
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: that Arnie Spaniards from matt Catamouts were not in the

1015
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 2: conference championship.

1016
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: All right, So here's the South Region. Auburn the number

1017
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: one seed and the number one overall seed in the tournament.

1018
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: They'll play on Thursday against either Alabama State or Saint

1019
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: Francis and Lexington. The eight to nine matchup is Louisville

1020
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: against Creighton. Were you surprised Michigan as a five seed

1021
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: a little bit? I hate to keep going back to

1022
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: the same thing. I think.

1023
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: I just Auburn having to play Louisville in Ropperena.

1024
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 6: Now.

1025
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: I know there's gonna be some unbiased, you know, Kentucky

1026
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: fans there that might be pulling for Auburn. But by

1027
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: the way, Auburn, the last time they were in Reperena

1028
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 2: clinch the SEC regular season title, they did some dancing

1029
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: on the floor, they did some celebrations. The folks in

1030
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: Lexington were not happy about that, and now those Louisville

1031
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 2: fans where people wh don't know the geography. It's less

1032
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: than an hour drive from Louisville to Lexington. I would

1033
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: expect a lot of red both days, but certainly if

1034
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: Louisville were to.

1035
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: Advance, soxas A and M will face Yale. Winner of

1036
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: that game faces the winner of the Michigan You see

1037
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: San Diego game. Aaron talked about the eight and M

1038
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: matchup with Louisville and Creighton the other side of the

1039
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: bracket Friday games. First of all, in Milwaukee, it's Ole

1040
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 1: miss against the winner of North Carolina and San Diego State,

1041
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: So that's bad news for the bubble teams to see

1042
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: North Carolina's name up there. San Diego State will face

1043
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: North Carolina on or in Dayton. Coming up on Wednesday,

1044
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: Iowa State and Lipscomb in the three fourteen matchup, Marquette

1045
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: against New Mexico seven to ten in Cleveland on Friday,

1046
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: Michigan State and Bryant in two fifteen matchup, also in Cleveland.

1047
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: He's erin Torres, I'm dan Byer. We will take a

1048
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: time out. A quarter of the field is set. How

1049
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: will the rest of the bracket look? We'll tell you

1050
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: next year on Fox Sports Radio. It's Fox Sports Radio.

1051
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: He's erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer our Selection Sunday Special.

1052
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: We're smack dab in the middle of it. When we

1053
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 1: left you, we gave you the South Region. If you're

1054
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 1: just joining us, Auburn is the number one overall seed

1055
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: of this NCAA tournament. They got the numbernumber one seed

1056
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: in the South Region. The East region has just been

1057
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: revealed while we are away at What we can tell

1058
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: you is that Duke is the number one seed in

1059
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: the East region. Aaron. They don't know who they're going

1060
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: to play on Friday because they're going to face the

1061
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: winner of the American Mount Saint Mary's first four matchup

1062
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 1: coming up Wednesday in Dayton. But Duke will be playing

1063
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: in Raleigh on Friday, giving Cooper Cup excuse thirty seven

1064
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: times extra time to rest his ankle. Sorry, Cooper flag

1065
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: Cup needs some rests as well.

1066
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Duke not surprised they're in the East, especially with

1067
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: Auburn being the one seed that was the only logical

1068
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: landing spot. Big question is, as you said, does Cooper

1069
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 2: Flag play on Friday.

1070
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: Or does he wait till Round two? An interesting East region.

1071
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: This is how the rest of the bracket played out.

1072
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: Also playing in Raleigh in the Friday Sunday matchup. The

1073
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: eight to nine matchup is Mississippi State from the SEC

1074
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: as the eighth seed and number nine seed Baylor the

1075
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,959
Speaker 1: fifth seed, playing in Seattle on Friday. As Oregon, they're

1076
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: taking on the Liberty Flames the twelve seed, while the

1077
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: four seed Arizona Wildcats take on thirteen seeded Akron. Again,

1078
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: that's Friday in Seattle. That's the top half of the

1079
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: East region, the bottom half of the bracket in the

1080
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: East by you as your sixth seed. Something we talked about,

1081
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to play on Thursday. They're gonna have

1082
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: to be in a region where the regional is on

1083
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: Thursday and Saturday. So they got put in the East

1084
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: and they're playing in Denver in a Thursday Saturday matchup.

1085
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: But on Thursday they've got number eleven Virginia Commonwealth.

1086
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of thoughts on the top half of

1087
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: the bracket. I know we have plenty of time to

1088
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: break down. I just think Yukon had been projected as

1089
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 2: in that eight to nine game in virtually every bracket

1090
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,959
Speaker 2: I saw facing Duke potentially in the second round. Stead

1091
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: you get a physical Mississippi State team, a Baylor team

1092
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 2: with NBA athletes. But I think, all things considered, nice

1093
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: little draw for Duke the top of the bracket.

1094
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: I know you want to continue here on the bottom. Yeah,

1095
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: in a surprising move. And what I've seen here is

1096
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: now we've got Michigan who won the Big Ten. Today,

1097
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: VCU ended up winning their conference championship in the A Ten,

1098
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: and Wisconsin just lost to Michigan. They're all playing Thursday

1099
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: in Denver. Because Wisconsin is the three seed in the East.

1100
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: Wisconsin is not going to Milwaukee. Instead, they'll be taking

1101
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: on fourteenth seed Montana. By the way, if you're talking

1102
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 1: about advantages, if you're at least used to altitude a little,

1103
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: Montana is. But Wisconsin now on a short week, like Michigan,

1104
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: like VCU, They're gonna have to go to Denver and

1105
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 1: play on Thursday.

1106
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about, you know, the advantages if you

1107
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: have a spot locked up, not the worst thing to

1108
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: lose early in the conference championship BYU as an example,

1109
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: plays on Friday, they get home probably late Friday night.

1110
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: They've been resting.

1111
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: They'll head out to Denver as opposed to VCU, which,

1112
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: as we just said, plays today. They're probably in the

1113
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: air right now as we speak, and well, I think

1114
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 2: the game was in Washington today, but you get the

1115
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: point is that they're probably just getting back to campus.

1116
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: They will have to fly out.

1117
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 2: Tuesday to That is a quick turnaround after a couple

1118
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: high leverage, a ten conference championship game, tournament games.

1119
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: And then the bottom half of the East bracket. Saint

1120
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: Mary's the seventh seed, the runner up in the West

1121
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: Coast Conference tournament. They lost to Gonzaga. They get Vanderbilt,

1122
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: the ten seed from the SEC. Considered a bubble team,

1123
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: but most projections were that Vandy was in and they

1124
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: are in solidly as a ten seed if you're just

1125
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: joining us. North Carolina did make the bracket. They are

1126
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: playing in a first four game in Dayton against San

1127
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: Diego State. They were placed in the South Region. They'll

1128
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: play on Wednesday. The speaking of the SEC here could

1129
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: be a possibility. Now you can't project it because you

1130
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: have a lower seed, but Alabama the two seed, could

1131
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: face Vanderbilt in that second round of Van Der Pols

1132
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: the upset against Saint Mary's. The games in Cleveland on Friday,

1133
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 1: we'll have Alabama against number fifteen seed Robert Morris Crimson

1134
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: tied the two seed in that contest.

1135
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they only played once. If Alabama were to face

1136
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt in the second round, Alabama with a sixteen point

1137
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: home win in their only matchup with Vanderbilt. Again, if

1138
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: they were to play in round two.

1139
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: And as we talked about some of the positioning that

1140
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: you're doing in so far, it has held true Aaron

1141
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: Torres is that we have seen with Auburn, they were

1142
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: not given an SEC team in the eight nine. We

1143
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 1: felt that that would be unfair. But here the two seed,

1144
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: and I feel that you could do that. You couldn't

1145
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: have Vandy a seven seed. You couldn't have the two

1146
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 1: higher seeds be from the SEC, but they can. They're

1147
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: allowed to do it in a way because it's a

1148
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: lower seed. So if Vandy pulls the upset, you will

1149
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: get that second round game Sunday in Cleveland.

1150
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: Fascinating draw and again that first time that we see

1151
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 2: the double SEC early round potential matchup. I think with

1152
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: Arkansas and both Oklahoma, I would say probably sitting on

1153
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 2: around that ten or so line. Wouldn't shock me to

1154
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: see one of those two teams getting either Tennessee, I

1155
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 2: guess Tennessee. I think one of those two will probably

1156
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: be in a bracket where they have to face Tennessee

1157
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 2: in the second round.

1158
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: So you see North Carolina in a nice y vanderb in.

1159
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: We're starting to see teams that are on the bubble,

1160
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: some teams getting really nervous, and you know what, the

1161
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: fund never stops. Strike up the band again because now

1162
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: the Midwest region and your top seed, the Houston Cougars,

1163
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: the number one seed in the Midwest. Houston, so we'll

1164
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: be playing a Thursday in Wichita, Kansas in Thursday Saturday games.

1165
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: So much so much from my Big twelve source that

1166
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: insisted Houston wanted the West region, looks like they'll be

1167
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: in the Midwest instead.

1168
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: They play si U E Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville,

1169
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: winners of I believe the OVC Yes, so SIUE first

1170
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: official bid clinch was SIU Edwardsville and one of Doug

1171
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: Gottlieb's wins this year at Green Bay against a tournament

1172
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: team and SIU E the eight seed Gonzaga Thursday. A

1173
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: lot of people are all over the map with where

1174
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: the Bulldogs were going to be seeded. They get an

1175
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: eight nine matchup in Wichita on Thursday. Who will the

1176
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: Bulldogs end up facing as a nine seed in Wichita?

1177
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: They're making us wait and it's the Georgia Bulldogs.

1178
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: Georgia really good team. Won four straight games in the

1179
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: regular season. They did lose on the opening night of

1180
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: the sec. ASA Newle's the name to know there. He's

1181
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: like definitely a potential first round pick.

1182
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: Clemson, who made a run to the Elite eight last year,

1183
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: was curious on where they were going to be placed.

1184
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: We saw Louisville make the runs to the ACC Tournament

1185
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: final this past weekend in Charlotte. They were an eight

1186
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: seed earlier. Now Clemson, playing in Providence on Thursday, will

1187
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: face McNeice in a five to twelve game.

1188
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 2: That's Will Wade, of course, former LSU head coach. They

1189
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: got a really good team. They went nineteen to one

1190
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: league play. That is a good matchup for McNeese. That

1191
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: is a game they could win.

1192
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: Playing in Providence on Thursday is the four seed the

1193
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: Purdue boiler Makers out of the Big Ten and the

1194
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: thirteen seed high points at twenty nine to five.

1195
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 2: Ever NCAA tournament bid for them. You can see the

1196
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 2: arena going crazy. Alan huss well respected former Creighton assistant coaches,

1197
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: taken over there.

1198
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: They are going to the NCAA Tournament. Very very cool

1199
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: story for that group. This is not where it gets

1200
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: tense because usually in the top half of the bracket

1201
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: there aren't tons of bubble teams where what we're seeing

1202
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: are the twelve seeds are the high end automatic bids.

1203
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: The sixth seed is Illinois in the Midwest region. This

1204
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: is Friday in Milwaukee, so Illinois will be the sixth seed.

1205
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: This is where we could get a Actually we won't.

1206
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: All we will Texas and Xavier playing on Friday. Texas

1207
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: and Xavier both get in the tournament. That's awful news

1208
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: for Indiana.

1209
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: I was just thinking that Texas the fifteen losses, I

1210
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 2: think that ties the most for an at large bid.

1211
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: Ever, Xavier, you gotta be happy, you know.

1212
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: I think some of these SEC teams, I mean, do

1213
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: you worry if you're in Arkansas or in Oklahoma that

1214
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: hasn't seen your name called yet? Arkansas sweeps Texas beats Vandy,

1215
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: and their matchup. You'd assume they'd be fine, but you

1216
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: just never know. There's only so many spots left. I

1217
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 2: do want to correct something I said earlier, but I

1218
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: have to let you know. Kentucky ends up getting the

1219
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 2: three seed in the Midwest. They go to Milwaukee.

1220
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: This is a spot I thought Wisconsin was gonna be in, Yes,

1221
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: but Wisconsin loses the tournament final. Kentucky ends up getting

1222
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: the spot in Milwaukee where Mark Pope and the Wildcats

1223
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: take on Troy.

1224
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: There you go, Kentucky Wildcats, by the way, bottom half

1225
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 2: of that bracket in Lexington.

1226
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Dan Flores your yeah, that's all right. Ucla

1227
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: is the third seed now in Lexington in this seven

1228
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: to ten match up. These games are on Thursday in Lexington,

1229
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: Ucla will face Utah State. I'll be curious Utah State

1230
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: is in.

1231
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 2: I thought that might be an Arkansas as the ten

1232
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: seed potentially going to Lexington.

1233
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: That's not the case. So this is Lexington on Thursday

1234
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: and Saturday. Tennessee gets the two seed in the Midwest region.

1235
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: One other point to just bring up about Utah State.

1236
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: They obviously coming from the Mountain West Conference. We haven't

1237
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: seen Boise State's name yet. So there's a team that

1238
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: was on the bubble as well that we were looking

1239
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: at Wafford with the automatic bid. They are the fifteen

1240
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: seed facing a Tennessee coming up on Thursday.

1241
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 2: Starting to wonder if Arkansas or Oklahoma is going to

1242
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: somehow get left out of this field. Both of those

1243
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: teams felt like they were in pretty good shape coming

1244
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: out of champ Week. Only so many spots, you know,

1245
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: those eleven seeds, there's you know, very limited spots left.

1246
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: I'll be very curious.

1247
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 2: Remember, by the way, Oklahoma last year was I believe

1248
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 2: one of the first two or three teams out. So

1249
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: Porter Moser, you would feel awful for him if for

1250
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 2: a second straight year they were one of those first feeds.

1251
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: So here are just some of the names that are

1252
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: on the bubble that we have not heard yet. Indiana,

1253
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: West Virginia, Boise State, Wake Forest, Arkansas, U See r Vine.

1254
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what it's going to certainly be very

1255
00:58:54,920 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: interesting to hear the committee's explanation. Indiana has four quad

1256
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: one wins, zero quad three or four losses. North Carolina

1257
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: has one quad one win. As we very much heard,

1258
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: Xavier has.

1259
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: One quad one win.

1260
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 2: It'll be very interesting, to say the least. How they

1261
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: explain Indiana not getting in but North Carolina and Xavier

1262
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 2: getting in, I do.

1263
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: Have to correct myself. Then we're gonna jump over to

1264
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: Monzi just for an update. She can give us an

1265
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: update of what's happening in other events. But before Monty

1266
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: we go to you. The two eleven seed games Aaron

1267
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: Texas and Xavier and San Diego State North Carolina. The

1268
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: winner of those games will end up being played on Friday.

1269
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: So I don't know who's gonna be on Tuesday. I

1270
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: think earlier or I said earlier that San Diego State

1271
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: North Carolina would play on Wednesday. Somebody's gonna get an

1272
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: extra day of rest playing in the first four. Yes,

1273
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: because you're gonna play on Tuesday, and then the bracket

1274
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 1: that you're funneled into will have a Friday first round game.

1275
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 1: All right, we have one region to go. We're gonna

1276
00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: go over to Manzi Blanias.

1277
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 4: With the latest, there has to be something that you

1278
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 4: too unlock in your brain when it comes to this,

1279
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 4: because the way you to discuss it this is year.

1280
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: Six road It's not only year six, it's probably year

1281
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: seventy combined with our ages of following the NCAA.

1282
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 7: Take a part of your brain that you unlock yes.

1283
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: For this and it goes away for a year, just

1284
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: like the groundhog. Phil.

1285
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 7: It's just it's incredible.

1286
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 2: You see Tours and Bayer in mid March. Six more

1287
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: weeks of winters definitely coming so.

1288
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 4: Well as the bracket continues to be released. In case

1289
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 4: you missed it, Auburn is the number one overall seed

1290
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 4: in the tournament. Out of the South Region, out of

1291
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 4: the Midwest region, the number one seed is Houston, and

1292
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 4: out of the East Region.

1293
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: The number one seed is Duke. We'll check in on

1294
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Speaker 1: the NBA.

1295
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 4: Some games just got going so still in the first quarter,

1296
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 4: but the Nets are on top of the Hawks twenty

1297
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 4: six to twenty one, and the Raptors are all over

1298
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 4: the Trailblazers twenty two to ten. Earlier, the Lakers, they

1299
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 4: outscored the Suns one of seven to ninety six. Luka

1300
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 4: Doncish thirty three points, eleven rebounds, and eight assists. As

1301
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 4: for Lebron James, ESPN reports that he is doing some

1302
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 4: encore workouts, but it's gonna miss at least another week

1303
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 4: with that growing injury. The Magic snapped the Cavaliers sixteen

1304
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 4: game winning streak. They came out on top one o

1305
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 4: eight to one oh three, and it was a total

1306
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 4: team effort. But Pawlll Bancaro twenty four points and eleven rebounds.

1307
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 4: Norman Powell is gonna make his return to the Clippers

1308
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 4: starting lineup tonight. That's right against the Hornet. So I'm

1309
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 4: excited at the Players Championship. Rory McElroy is in the

1310
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 4: lead twelve under part. Overall, he is four hundred through

1311
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 4: fifteen holes for today. JJ spawn is one shot back

1312
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 4: back to you guys.

1313
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: All right, manzis he is jacked for some Clippers hoops.

1314
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the Bucks. The Bucks played tonight

1315
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: against the thunder and I am so in college hoops mode.

1316
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah that it just it feels, and you say,

1317
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: like unlocking your brain in a certain way, it's very

1318
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: difficult to transition over and to be then locked in

1319
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: on NBA action.

1320
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 2: If I asked your name all twelve college football playoff

1321
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: teams from this year, now, could.

1322
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 8: You do it right? Now?

1323
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 3: You know?

1324
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: It's like that, that's how it gets right. It's like

1325
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: you spend hours and days talking about this stuff and

1326
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: then you move on to the next thing. And oh,

1327
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: by the way, a month from now, we're not gonna remember,

1328
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: Oh dude, who did they? They were in wet region now,

1329
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: but you know, some time here. This is the fun

1330
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: of it in terms of I will say for what

1331
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: we had talked about in the first ninety minutes of

1332
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: the show, at least in the first hour, and if

1333
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: you're just joining us, a big topic of conversation was

1334
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: how does this committee deal with the large number of

1335
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: SEC schools in the bracket? And then how do you

1336
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: pair them opposite your three teams that you feel are

1337
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: better than everyone else? And three of the top eight

1338
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: seeds are going to be from the SEC, and they've

1339
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: pretty much kept with it so far. We just saw Georgia,

1340
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: a nine seed, playing Gonzaga in the Midwest region. They're

1341
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: in Houston's region. The only eight to nine matchup that

1342
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: we know so far that doesn't include an SEC team

1343
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: was in the South Louisville and Creighton, and they're facing

1344
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: the number one seed in Auburn. I expect us to

1345
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: see Florida as the number one seed in the West

1346
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: region as it's just about to be announced, and that

1347
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: is the case so I'd be shocked if we saw

1348
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: an SEC team here in an eight nine matchup.

1349
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 2: I think this is probably where you see Yukon, the

1350
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 2: two time defending champ. They've been projected as a as

1351
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 2: a eight nine game in Raleigh. We just assumption was

1352
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 2: always going to be that they played Duke. We'll see

1353
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 2: what happens here.

1354
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: So Florida is the number one seed. Their sixteen seed

1355
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: will be Norfolk State. So Norfolk State in as the

1356
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: sixteen seed. I think there was some question on whether

1357
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: they'd be a first four. There you go go, Yukon Huskies. Yeah,

1358
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 1: they were projected to Yukon the eighth seed.

1359
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: By the way, Friday and Raleigh. That's okay, tough down

1360
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 2: the show. Oh, there you go. There's one of those

1361
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 2: teams that we were waiting on. Dan, go ahead, and.

1362
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,439
Speaker 1: The there you go is for the Oklahoma Sooners, who

1363
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: are in the bracket, comfortably in the bracket in in

1364
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: an eight nine matchup against Yukon Friday and Raleigh.

1365
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously a lot of interesting developments there. Oklahoma was

1366
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 2: on the frintinges of the bubble. They're in, by the way,

1367
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: another Sunday that doesn't seem to impact anything. I'll tell

1368
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: you that. Go ahead, Dan Friday Sunday games in Seattle.

1369
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 2: Number five seed Memphis in the West Region. Talk about

1370
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 2: something not mattering. The buzz was Memphis could be as

1371
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: high as an eight seed. They come in on the

1372
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 2: five line.

1373
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: And they will face Colorado State, winners of the Mountain

1374
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: West Conference tournament. Again, as a lot of people said,

1375
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: Colorado State had to win the tournament to get in,

1376
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: and it appears that way. Five to twelve matchup Friday,

1377
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: Maryland will be the four seed in the West Region

1378
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: playing in Seattle. Coming up on Friday. One of the

1379
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: longer hikes of teams making the first round track Maryland

1380
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: going across the country to play in Seattle against a

1381
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: thirteen seed in Grand Canyon, and Bryce drew the Lobe

1382
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 1: second straight year. Remember they upset Saint Mary's last year.

1383
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: In round one.

1384
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 2: Maryland played really well, obviously losing at the buzzer essentially

1385
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 2: to Michigan in the Big ten semi fi.

1386
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: So there's not much drama here at the bottom. But

1387
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: Missouri is the sixth seed. Saint John's is gonna be

1388
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: the two at some point here. These are Thursday games

1389
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: in Wichita, so this.

1390
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: Probably meets Arkansas on the seven to ten spot, likely

1391
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 2: facing Caliperi and Patina. Caliperry versus Patino in round two

1392
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 2: is what we're.

1393
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: Trying foreshadowing that Thursday Saturday games Thursday in Wichita will

1394
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: be Missouri against Drake Winner are the MVC.

1395
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 2: There you go there, Drake Cauldoggs. Listen, they're the team

1396
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 2: that everybody's gonna love. Everybody's gonna pick where they thirty

1397
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 2: plus wins this year, Missouri kind of struggled down the stretch.

1398
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 2: Be curious to see how they match up with Drake

1399
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 2: when they face off in which time.

1400
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Speaker 1: Thursday in Whichita. The three fourteen game has Texas Tech

1401
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: from the Big twelve. Texas Tech has been firmly on

1402
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: that three line. It feels like for the last week

1403
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: and a half anything that they didn't seem to waiver.

1404
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: So they are the three seed taking on the Seahawks

1405
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: of UNC Wilmington.

1406
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 2: UNC Wilmington getting in for the first time since Kevin

1407
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 2: Keats was there. Texas Tech is one of those teams listened.

1408
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: You never say never till the bracket comes out, but

1409
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 2: they could absolutely make a deeper run than maybe they've

1410
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 2: been given credit.

1411
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: For all right, this is the last drama that we've

1412
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: got of the bracket reveal Thursday in Providence. The seventh

1413
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: seed is Kansas. Who will they be facing as the

1414
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: tenth season Arkansas? There's going to be it is Arkansas.

1415
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: Look who they're going to play in round two? Ar

1416
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: Kansas against Kansas. That's what we've got.

1417
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 2: By the way, they played in a charity exhibition to

1418
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 2: start the season. Arkansas one.

1419
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: Providence is going to be the place to be. We

1420
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: told you we felt Saint John's was likely going to

1421
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: be the two seed in the West Region. They are

1422
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: the thirty and four Red Storm winners of the Big

1423
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: East regular season and the tournament. Rick Patino will be

1424
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: playing in Providence. How about that? That's fitting playing in Providence.

1425
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: That stops along his coaching career. Saint John's will be

1426
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: facing the fifteenth seeded squad from Omaha Winter some Mavericks.

1427
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 2: Have you seen the Omaha locker room celebrations by the

1428
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 2: way with the garbage ca Yes, they do this thing

1429
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: where they're like professional wrestlers and they just like jump

1430
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: on garbage cans and elbow them and stuff.

1431
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: It's a great thing. A couple things that stand out

1432
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: one Memphis. I mentioned it.

1433
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 2: They were projected by some as low as like an

1434
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 2: eight seed. So again I actually am happy that they

1435
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 2: got credit. They played a monster out of conference schedule.

1436
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 2: They beat Missouri, they beat Clemson on the road, they

1437
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 2: had a I'm glad that they are rewarded.

1438
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: They also get the extra day.

1439
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 2: I remember we talked about Tyree Hutter, their starting point guard,

1440
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 2: being out with injury.

1441
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: All right, there is your field of sixty eight. The

1442
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: bracket is now set. Where is no more revealing. You

1443
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: do not have to listen to John Tesh anymore. You

1444
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: have got your fill over that thirty five minutes. It

1445
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: now allows us Aaron to take a time out and

1446
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: we can digest what we just got. I want to

1447
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,960
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1448
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,240
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1460
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: Out here, we react to the field of sixty eight

1461
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: and the fourteen schools from the SEC that got in.

1462
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: He's Erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer. That's next tier. On

1463
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday. He's erin Torres, I'm

1464
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: Dan Bayer in the field of sixty eight has been revealed,

1465
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,919
Speaker 1: and boy, it's tough to be sixty nine in West Virginia,

1466
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: the team left out, the first team out of the bracket.

1467
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: As we're going through this whole deal, Aaron Torres, we're

1468
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,799
Speaker 1: looking at the teams that are in and we're surprised.

1469
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: We saw North Carolina early, we saw Texas a bit

1470
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 1: later on, but now, all of a sudden, then you realize,

1471
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: we knew we didn't see Indiana. We knew he didn't

1472
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: see Boise State. I think a lot of people took

1473
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: for granted feeling that West Virginia was in the Mountaineers

1474
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: instead are on the outside looking in.

1475
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, West Virginia was an interesting story, you know, to

1476
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 2: use a cliche term, a lot of hay in the barn.

1477
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:26,799
Speaker 1: Early in the season.

1478
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,839
Speaker 2: They went to the Bahamas, They beat Arizona, they beat Gonzaga. Listen,

1479
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 2: you know you and I have talked about it. I

1480
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 2: know that you know, last ten second half of the

1481
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 2: year isn't a thing. But they did lose to some

1482
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 2: of the bottom half of the Big Big twelve. They

1483
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 2: went ten to ten overall in the league. They lost

1484
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 2: to Arizona State at home, who finished fifteenth out of

1485
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 2: sixteen teams they finished. They lost to Kansas State on

1486
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 2: the road. They lost to TCU at home. I mean,

1487
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 2: these are bottom half of the of the of the

1488
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: conference losses, and I do wonder, and we'll hear from

1489
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 2: Bubba Cunningham, the chair of the committee here momentarily, but

1490
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 2: I do wonder if not only losing games, but losing

1491
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,560
Speaker 2: games in the bottom half of that conference played a

1492
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 2: factor there.

1493
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: North Carolina's resume on the board, and some people feel

1494
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: it's a conflict of interest, but Bubba Cunningham will leave

1495
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: the room. And here's the interesting thing we are watching

1496
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: on CBS right now. Bubba Cunningham the chairman of this

1497
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament committee, and Keith Gill is the vice chair.

1498
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: I have never seen two people do the interview. Yeah,

1499
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: And I think the reason that they're doing that is

1500
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: because Bubba Cunningham cannot speak to North Carolina because he

1501
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 1: technically was not allowed to be in the room when

1502
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 1: they are going to be talked about ices, right, I mean,

1503
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: doesn't that seem to be the optics here? I mean,

1504
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: Bubba Cunningham, by the way, I know that you're employed

1505
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: by the University of North Carolina. I just today would

1506
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: be the day that I don't wear the baby blue

1507
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: tie with the baby blue shirt as well. But I

1508
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: think that's why you have vice chair Keith Gill of

1509
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: the NCAA Selection Committee on this or during this interview,

1510
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: because he's the one that's able to answer about North Carolina.

1511
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 2: No, and what we're obviously producer Shay and Brendan in

1512
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 2: the backer monitoring sound. I will be curious what the

1513
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 2: explanation is because I mean, even if you make the

1514
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 2: argument that you know, the argument that I made on

1515
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: behalf of West Virginia. That was a team that had

1516
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 2: six Quad one wins this season. North Carolina, as we've

1517
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 2: discussed time and time again, had one. Again quad one

1518
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 2: wins are those best possible wins that you could have

1519
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:35,879
Speaker 2: on their resume. Now, West Virginia did have thirteen overall losses,

1520
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 2: ten in Quad one. There's nothing metrically, and I'm not

1521
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 2: you know, we're not in that committee room, but there's

1522
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 2: nothing metrically that says that North Carolina should be in

1523
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 2: over in West Virginia or frankly a couple teams that

1524
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 2: may have gotten left out.

1525
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: So an interesting variable there is this is drama. And

1526
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: the only thing that I would say two those are

1527
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: saying that North Carolina got in on name brand. Yes,

1528
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 1: that is exactly gonna be. Then what do you say

1529
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: with the Indiana Hoosiers? What do you say about that team?

1530
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: And I there were no two teams on the bubble

1531
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 1: more I felt than Indiana and North Carolina that went

1532
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: both ways. Now, I'd also put Xavier into the list here,

1533
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: but people aren't as tuned into Xavier. I totally agree.

1534
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: So it just felt, and it's something that you mentioned earlier.

1535
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: North Carolina was the last team in the field as

1536
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 1: this showing on, it was Texas, Xavier, San Diego State,

1537
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Those were the last four. The first four

1538
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: out West Virginia, Indiana, Ohio State, and Boise State. But

1539
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: it just is surprising considering that it's North Carolina and

1540
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: Indiana that we had so much attention on. One does

1541
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 1: get in the other one doesn't.

1542
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought Texas was for sure out to one.

1543
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 2: That shows you how truly weak the bubble was. I

1544
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 2: know we say that every single year, but I think

1545
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 2: there's something to it.

1546
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: You know.

1547
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 2: The other thing I would say is I will say

1548
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: I will defend North Carolina a little bit. Is they

1549
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 2: played an insane out of conference schedule. I mean, you

1550
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 2: look at the teams that we were talking about as

1551
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 2: potential number one seeds. They played Auburn, the SEC regular

1552
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 2: season champs in Maui. They played Michigan State SEC regular

1553
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 2: season champs in Maui. They played Florida SEC Tournament champs

1554
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 2: number one seed earlier in the season. They played Alabama

1555
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 2: earlier in the season. So and oh, by the way,

1556
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 2: they played Duke three times as well. And so I'm

1557
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 2: not saying I think at some point you got to

1558
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: win some of those games, Dan, but they certainly challenged

1559
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 2: themselves out of conference. And you know, I also think

1560
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 2: there's that fine line of do you want to punish

1561
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 2: a team that pushed itself so far out of conference

1562
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: so hard out of conference because you know, North Carolina

1563
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 2: didn't have to go to Maui. They could have stayed

1564
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 2: home and played you know you, I'll just generic fill

1565
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: in the blank school. And so I made the argument

1566
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 2: about two or three weeks, guys said, if they're on

1567
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 2: the cut line, I'd like to see them in rewarded

1568
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 2: for the schedule that they put together. But I just

1569
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: think that when you look at them on a piece

1570
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 2: of paper compared to everybody else, I mean West Virginia,

1571
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 2: for all the criticism that I had of some of

1572
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 2: those bad losses, look at some of these wins that

1573
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 2: they had earlier in the year.

1574
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 1: This is a team that.

1575
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 2: Won at Kansas, as I said, in the out of

1576
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 2: conference one, against Arizona on a neutral court, beat Gonzaga

1577
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 2: on a neutral court. This is a team that also,

1578
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 2: you know, throughout the regular season, had a couple other

1579
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,520
Speaker 2: good wins. They swept Cincinnati, which was another bubble team.

1580
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: So I don't think there's like an amazing case for

1581
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 2: West Virginia. But you know we're efforting the sound Abubba Cunningham.

1582
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 2: If you have us on a second screen, you can

1583
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 2: tweeted us what he said if you were able to

1584
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 2: hear it. But I am very curious for the explanation

1585
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 2: as to what North Carolina had on their resume. And

1586
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 2: again to your point, he can't really talk about it,

1587
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 2: so you're curious for whatever explanation it ends up being.

1588
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: I your point about the bubble is is very fair. Again,

1589
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: we're talking about the teams that this wasn't forty teams

1590
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:05,759
Speaker 1: for two spots, This wasn't thirteen teams for twelve spots.

1591
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: It was a mix, but it wasn't a huge range

1592
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: when you really wanted to talk about when you're watching

1593
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: bracketology and you're looking on the bracketology pages, when you

1594
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: get to the next four out, let's kind of be

1595
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 1: realistic here, those teams really aren't you can play your

1596
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 1: way in. I think Boise States run to the championship

1597
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 1: game of the Mountain West Conference allowed us to sit

1598
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 1: there and think, Okay, well maybe this team is now

1599
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: in even without winning their conference tournament. Jerry Palm, I

1600
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: believe said on CBS A nine or two ago that

1601
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: Colorado State needed it more than Boise State, and now

1602
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: it looks like that, well, I'm not throwing shade at

1603
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: the comment at all. It just looked like both teams

1604
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: needed it. Maybe it was the way that Colorado State

1605
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: looked pretty dominant in that game to show so everything counts.

1606
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: And I go back to and I made light of

1607
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 1: it earlier, but the lane violation, and again, there's no

1608
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: guarantee that North Carolina win the game against Duke on

1609
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 1: Friday night, But are you really going to determine North

1610
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: Carolina as you look at that is their national turn

1611
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament hopes gonna rest on a lane violation,

1612
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: and it didn't appear that way, but it shows you

1613
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: how close that it got. And so because it was

1614
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: that close erin Torres, I'm wondering if they almost considered

1615
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: it a half win in that point. We had heard

1616
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: that by Saturday night that most of the top nine

1617
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: lines were sorted out. North Carolina wouldn't have been in

1618
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: that group. But it's just the point of I think

1619
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: it would have been heartbreak city for them to lose

1620
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 1: out in a scenario like that where they played Duke

1621
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: so tough even without Cooper flag. But man, they would

1622
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:49,919
Speaker 1: have been tough to keep them out on that penalty

1623
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 1: because that extra win would have helped them. Now, I

1624
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 1: wonder if it actually helped them get into tournament, that

1625
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 1: it actually happened in a game that they lost.

1626
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 2: No, I think there's definitely something to it, and it

1627
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 2: shouldn't come down to one game. But again, late in

1628
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 2: the season, high profile. If we're arguing that Duke is

1629
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 2: at worst the second best team, I know they weren't

1630
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 2: at full strength, but you played them pretty close to

1631
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. You know, we got another hour to

1632
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 2: break this down. And I'm so excited because I just

1633
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 2: there's so many things to look at. I mean, I

1634
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 2: mentioned this a minute ago, but Cali Perry versus bill

1635
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 2: Self in round one. They actually opened the season with

1636
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 2: a charity exhibition game at Budwalton Arena when Kansas was

1637
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 2: the number one ranked team in the country. Arkansas pulled

1638
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 2: off the upset. If you will winner would potentially play

1639
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 2: Rick Patino in Saint John's. You have potentially Yukon versus

1640
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 2: Florida in the second round, Louisville playing.

1641
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: Auburn at Auburn. And by the way, the other thing.

1642
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 2: Too, which we'll talk about, the seeding discrepancies between where

1643
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,719
Speaker 2: everybody had people projected. I keep going back to Memphis.

1644
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 2: Every bracket I saw was on the eight to nine line.

1645
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 2: They get a five. I'm actually happy to see that

1646
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 2: you reference Michigan potentially being as high as a three.

1647
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: They're a five. Wisconsin.

1648
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 2: I don't know where you thought they were, but it

1649
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 2: seemed like you didn't think that the seating matched up

1650
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 2: with everything that we thought coming into today. So I

1651
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 2: you know, we need this next hour to really peel

1652
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 2: back this bracket. But I think there are a ton

1653
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 2: of talking points going into going into these these these

1654
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 2: all these games.

1655
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: Thursday Friday, I had said to you a couple of

1656
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: weeks ago, this was off air. This is as we

1657
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 1: were are passing ships in the night from one shift

1658
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:30,520
Speaker 1: to another, and I joke to you SEC fourteen schools. Yeah,

1659
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 1: And I said it half joking to be like, man,

1660
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 1: that would be something that was also the max at

1661
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: that point. But that's what it ends up being. And

1662
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: there's a part of me that I'm sure in the

1663
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: past would really not like it and not be happy

1664
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 1: with it. But there's a part of me that appreciates it,

1665
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: and there's a part of me that says, okay, we

1666
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: did the right thing. I actually thought that the pendulum

1667
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: swung at one point, almost too far away where we're

1668
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 1: looking at it's either got to be mid majors or

1669
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: nonpower conferences, and I felt that it swung a little bit.

1670
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: I thought, I'll just say, I thought maybe we gave

1671
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: the Mountain West a little bit too much credit. Sure,

1672
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 1: and ca tournaments results would reflect that. Yeah, and so

1673
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: now it's kind of swung back. Now it's up to

1674
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: the SEC, who is dominanting their conference challenge with the

1675
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: ACC that now they'll have an opportunity to try to

1676
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 1: show that in this NCAA tournament.

1677
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we got another hour to break this down.

1678
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 2: As far as the SEC getting fourteen teams, we can criticize,

1679
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 2: but you know, you look at an Arkansas six squad

1680
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 2: one wins, You look at Oklahoma. They beat Louisville, they

1681
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 2: beat Arizona, they beat a bunch of really good teams

1682
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 2: out of conference. So when you factor in the out

1683
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 2: of conference with the in conference, Texas is really the

1684
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 2: only one that was a question mark. And even Texas.

1685
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think if they win those two

1686
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 2: games at the SEC Tournament against Vandy, against Texas A

1687
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 2: and M on a neutral court, that we're talking about

1688
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:49,719
Speaker 2: them in this field.

1689
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: He is aeron Torres. I'm Dan Byer. It is Fox

1690
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 1: Sports Sunday. The field of sixty eight has been revealed.

1691
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: We'll run it down. We'll break it down for you

1692
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1695
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: have until Thursday morning, so those Thursday first round games

1696
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1697
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1698
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Speaker 1: The field of sixty eight is set now it happens.

1699
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1700
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Speaker 1: buying should be. You talked about the bubble maybe not

1706
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Speaker 1: being as big as as it had been previously. Personal

1707
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 1: bias here. I watched Ohio State more than any other

1708
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: team probably this past season, and I don't think they

1709
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: had any business being in consideration for the NCAA Tournament

1710
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: with what type of team they were.

1711
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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: There was a a win against Kentucky, they had a

1713
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 1: nice stretch in the Big Ten, but they were knocked

1714
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 1: out of the Big Ten tournament on Wednesday by fifteen

1715
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: seed at Iowa who a week ago, I wasn't even

1716
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:10,759
Speaker 1: sure if they were going to get into the actual

1717
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: Big Ten tournament, let alone go and win a game.

1718
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: But the Ohio State was the third team out. So

1719
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: in terms of when you're looking at teams getting in

1720
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 1: and teams getting out, we're really talking about maybe mad

1721
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:24,959
Speaker 1: for one or two teams or one or two schools

1722
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: and angry at another maybe one or two for getting in.

1723
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: But other than that, I don't think you can necessarily

1724
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: complain on what you saw from the bubble, just because

1725
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: I just don't think that the bubble was that big

1726
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: this year.

1727
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 2: Well, and it's I think you're only mad until you

1728
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 2: see that North Carolina gets in one quad one win,

1729
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 2: Texas gets in, or Texas gets in with fifteen overall

1730
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 2: losses Xavier with one quad one win.

1731
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny.

1732
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 2: I saw like a poll of Indiana fans earlier today

1733
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 2: and it was like, how many of you want to

1734
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 2: be in the tournament versus just get a head start

1735
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: on this coaching search and whatever. And I think it

1736
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 2: was about six are like, just get me to the

1737
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 2: coaching search.

1738
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 1: And then the same.

1739
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 2: Accounts that we're saying that you know, are now like, well,

1740
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 2: wait a second. Now, we didn't care about being in

1741
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,759
Speaker 2: until we saw that Carolina's in with their bogus resume,

1742
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 2: with their with their head coach or their excuse me,

1743
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 2: their ad as the head of the tournament committee. So

1744
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,839
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of frustration on that bubble.

1745
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 2: But again, like you said, the teams that are actually there,

1746
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 2: the teams that were actually left out, I think it

1747
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 2: is hard to really complain, but I do think there

1748
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 2: is a complaint in an argument when you look at

1749
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 2: who actually got in.

1750
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:39,799
Speaker 1: So, just for reference, in doing some bracketology report cards,

1751
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: in the latest bracketology from Joe Lunardi, who tip of

1752
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: the cap to Joe Lunardi on being the guy who

1753
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: really started this, no doubt. He had his last four

1754
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: in are you ready for this? Utah State, Vanderbilt, San

1755
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: Diego State in Indiana, and you say to yourself, great,

1756
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 1: chop three of four. The problem is the first four

1757
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: out where Xavier who gets in Boise State, not in Texas,

1758
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: in North Carolina in so he misses on three, so

1759
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 1: he gets sixty five of sixty eight. He had West

1760
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 1: Virginia in a last four by this is yeah, this

1761
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: is I don't know it's in exact science.

1762
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if he deleted the tweeter what. But

1763
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 2: he puts something out earlier in the day where he

1764
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 2: was like, it's three teams for four spots or four

1765
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 2: teams for three Oh here it is realistically, we're down

1766
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 2: to three teams for two spots Indiana, Xavier, Boise after them,

1767
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 2: Texas has too many losses in North Carolina doesn't have

1768
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 2: enough Quad one wins. And then he goes into if

1769
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 2: you know, if Memphis loses da dada dap. But I

1770
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: just bring it up because I'm not gonna blame him,

1771
01:23:56,280 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 2: because it felt to me like virtually every single person

1772
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 2: that was doing brackets and it's one where listen, I

1773
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 2: know some of these guys. I think that's sometimes in

1774
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: sports coverage, you can get some kind of what's the

1775
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: right word, the bias in which everybody has the same opinion.

1776
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 2: I can't think it's not recency bias, it's something else,

1777
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: but confirmation bias. That's exactly what I'm looking for, or

1778
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 2: term I'm looking for. I don't think there's confirmation bias

1779
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 2: in the bracketology world. I think all these guys are

1780
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 2: competing to prove that they're the best, and there's websites

1781
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 2: that rank them and stuff, and so I just bring

1782
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 2: it up because it felt like it was pretty much

1783
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 2: a consensus from all of those guys and girls that

1784
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 2: do it that North Carolina was definitely out, that Texas

1785
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 2: was probably out, Indiana was probably in. And so I

1786
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 2: know it's easy to rag on Joe Lonardi because he's

1787
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 2: kind of the face of all all of this, and

1788
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you weren't necessarily you or anybody else,

1789
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 2: But I also just think the committee threw some curveballs

1790
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 2: that I don't think a lot of people were ready

1791
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 2: for today.

1792
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 1: Well, and my point of this is number one, that

1793
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 1: it's in inexact science, and I don't even know if

1794
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 1: it's science. It's just guessing what other people think. And

1795
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: then what you're trying to do is you're trying to

1796
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: think of contingency plans. You and I can go at

1797
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: the top of the bracket. There's a perfect example where

1798
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: you have the top four seeds. In a perfect world,

1799
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,679
Speaker 1: you would then snake it back with the next four

1800
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 1: with the fourth best team playing the fifth best team

1801
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 1: and the sixth best team, and they'll rank the schools

1802
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 1: one through sixty eight. But because of the SEC conflicts

1803
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: that you have to have that we've had in this tournament,

1804
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: where you don't want two SEC teams being the top

1805
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 1: two schools in the same region, so it's altered after that.

1806
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 1: Houston's the third seed. We found out that Tennessee was

1807
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 1: the fifth overall seed in this bracket. They're going to

1808
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: be in the same region like that would be That

1809
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: would be a nock to Houston in terms of having

1810
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: to play the fifth best team because they should be

1811
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 1: playing the sixth best team and the fourth seeded Florida

1812
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: Gators ended up playing or being in the same region

1813
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: as Saint John's who they deem the weakest of the

1814
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: two seeds, and now they're gonna have to play them

1815
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,759
Speaker 1: out West. Like there's just there are so many things

1816
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: that go beyond who did you beat, where did you

1817
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: beat them, and how did you beat them for them

1818
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: to put together a bracket. Now the bubble it is,

1819
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 1: it's those sort of things that play out. But when

1820
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 1: you're looking at how things are seated, there are a

1821
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 1: lot of other contingency plans go into play. That's why

1822
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: it makes it's fun for us to look at a

1823
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: bracket and say, oh wow, my school is thought to

1824
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 1: be a three seed in this week's bracketology and they're

1825
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: going to be playing in Raleigh. That's awesome, But that's

1826
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: not how the bracket is filled out. So you're just

1827
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 1: guessing what other people are trying to put together. And

1828
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: that's really difficult.

1829
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 2: And I'll defend all the bractologists by saying, again, their

1830
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 2: job isn't to do what they think is right. Their

1831
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:46,440
Speaker 2: job is to do what history tells them the committee

1832
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 2: will do. And so again that's where I default to.

1833
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,799
Speaker 2: If everyone said that history tells us that North Carolina

1834
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 2: isn't going to get in, I'm not going to blame

1835
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 2: any of them for not having North Carolina in, or

1836
01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 2: having Indiana in, or having this team out, or having

1837
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 2: you know, again to the seed line stuff. Is that again?

1838
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 2: I keep going back to the same two or three teams.

1839
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 2: But Louisville fans they're playing their regional in Lexington, but

1840
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 2: they're mad because they thought they were about a six seed.

1841
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 2: Now they're gonna have to face Auburn and round two

1842
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: very likely if they were to beat Creighton. So listen,

1843
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 2: you know, we're still reacting to this in real time

1844
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 2: as we do every year. But you just sit there

1845
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 2: and say, it does feel like the committee just did

1846
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 2: not fall in line with what everybody had been told

1847
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 2: they would over the course of the last couple of weeks.

1848
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 1: He's Aeron Torres. I'm Dan Beyer. This is how the

1849
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 1: top of the bracket will look. Auburn is your number

1850
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 1: one overall seed. Duke is your second seed. If Duke

1851
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 1: holds their seed and makes it to the final four,

1852
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: they'll face the Midwest Region winner, where the number one

1853
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: overall seed is Houston and the top seed in the

1854
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 1: West Region is a Florida. So if Florida holds their

1855
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: number one seed, they will face Conference Fall Auburn in

1856
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 1: the national semi finals. That's how they bracket will shape

1857
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 1: up that way. The two seeds we mentioned Florida and

1858
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: Saint John's in the West region, that's the one too.

1859
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 1: In the Midwest region it is Houston and Tennessee. Top

1860
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 1: seeded Duke in the East will have Alabama as the

1861
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: two seed, and the two seed in the South region

1862
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: is Michigan State. We do have comments from Committee Chair

1863
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 1: Bubba Cunningham, who is the North Carolina ad and if

1864
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 1: you're just joining us, there was an optic on the

1865
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 1: screen when CBS was doing this interview that I had

1866
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: never seen before, and it was the committee chair joined

1867
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 1: by someone else, and that was Keith Gill, the vice

1868
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: chair of the committee, who I feel had to answer

1869
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 1: some of the questions that you were to get about

1870
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 1: North Carolina that maybe Bubba Cunningham wasn't privy to as

1871
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,480
Speaker 1: he was not allowed to take part in those conversations.

1872
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 1: Here was the questioning from CBS to Bubba Cunningham and

1873
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 1: Keith Gill on North Carolina being in and Cunningham not

1874
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:54,919
Speaker 1: being involved in that process.

1875
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 5: You are the athletic director of the University of North

1876
01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:59,560
Speaker 5: Carolina in your day job. So it's going to be

1877
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 5: a natural question for people who don't know all those

1878
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 5: procedures to ask whether North Carolina may have gotten a

1879
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 5: little bit of an advantage that their AD is a chair.

1880
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 5: So I'm going to invite you to answer that question

1881
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 5: and then maybe if Keith could shed some light on

1882
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 5: that discussion.

1883
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 6: Well, thanks Seth, and obviously I'm going to defer that

1884
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:22,520
Speaker 6: to Keith, but you know, all the policies and procedures

1885
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 6: were followed, and Keith can address exactly how North Carolina

1886
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 6: was discussed because I was not in a room for

1887
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 6: any of that.

1888
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, thanks Baba and Seth. I appreciate the question. As

1889
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 8: the vice chair, I managed all the conversations that we

1890
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 8: had about North Carolina, and we had quite a few.

1891
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 8: Our policies require the ADA of any school to refuse

1892
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 8: themselves and actually leave the room for those discussions, and

1893
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 8: they're not allowed to participate in any vote as well,

1894
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 8: So we followed those had lots of discussions about North Carolina.

1895
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 8: You know, Saturday night, we took our final vote and

1896
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 8: we voted in four teams in the field on Saturday,

1897
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 8: and we had a contingency vote and the contingency vote

1898
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,640
Speaker 8: that was the last team in the field, and it

1899
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 8: was based on Memphis and UAB. If Memphis won that game,

1900
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 8: then that was going to free up the spot in

1901
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,600
Speaker 8: the tournament, and that was going to be North Carolina.

1902
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 1: If UAB had won, then Memphis was going to be

1903
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 1: in the tournament.

1904
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:21,759
Speaker 8: UAB would have been in the tournament in North Carolina

1905
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 8: would have been the first team out.

1906
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 1: You know, I'll say this, it's it is easy to say.

1907
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, yes, by definition, if they're the

1908
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 2: last team in and we had zero bid Steelers, then yes,

1909
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 2: they would have been the first team out if somebody

1910
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 2: had stolen a bid. The counter to that is, let's

1911
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 2: say UAB won and let's say maybe Xavier's out instead.

1912
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 2: Then you could have said, well, you know, listen, if

1913
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 2: UAB and George Mason had won and we had two

1914
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 2: bid Steelers, then North Carolina would have been out.

1915
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 1: You know.

1916
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:53,080
Speaker 2: So, I'm not ready to go full blown conspiracy theory here,

1917
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 2: but I don't think.

1918
01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 1: He said anything that was that was newsworthy. I agree.

1919
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 1: I think that there is a lot of you know,

1920
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 1: word salad there, But what he's basically telling us is

1921
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 1: UAB could have stolen a bid, and if they stole

1922
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 1: a bid, it would have been from the last team

1923
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 1: in the field exactly. Well, that's every year, I know,

1924
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 1: every single year in whether it be the A ten

1925
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 1: that we had earlier to your point, George Mason losing

1926
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 1: the VCU, or if it was UAB in Memphis, it's

1927
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 1: not how close it would be. That doesn't that doesn't

1928
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: matter at all. What we want to know is why

1929
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: did North Carolina get in over West Virginia And their

1930
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 1: last vote, as they said, had North Carolina in at

1931
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 1: sixty eight. That's fine, but why are they then above

1932
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: West Virginia sixty nine. That's the answer that everybody wants

1933
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:41,640
Speaker 1: to know.

1934
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 2: And I would say that let me let me ask

1935
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 2: you this because we're not going full blown conspiracy theory,

1936
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 2: but I am going to ask you, if UAB had

1937
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 2: won today, do you truly believe that North Carolina would

1938
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:53,799
Speaker 2: not be in this bracket?

1939
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, I do. Here's the tricky part about it, though,

1940
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 1: because if you look at the bracket and for bracket heeads,

1941
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 1: you'll be able to follow along. The eleven seeds that

1942
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 1: we got in this bracket are the San Diego State,

1943
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: North Carolina game, the Texas Xavior game in VCU and Drake.

1944
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 1: VCU and Drake are automatic bids, so they are not

1945
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 1: being moved from that eleven line at any point. So

1946
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 1: now you've got to go to the ten seeds. So

1947
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 1: who then would have been in that first four New Mexico, Vanderbilt,

1948
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 1: Utah State or Arkansas. Now we'll find that out when

1949
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 1: we see the overall seed, which will be released. But

1950
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 1: that's the team that then ends up falling into the

1951
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 1: first four. If say, UAB would have stolen one of

1952
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 1: those bids because you're not moving Drake, and you're not

1953
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 1: moving VCU from those eleven seeds because they are in

1954
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 1: the tournament as automatic bids. That's the one thing that

1955
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 1: we don't know just yet, at least I haven't seen

1956
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 1: the full one through sixty eight rankings. No, it's it's

1957
01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 1: a lot of fun.

1958
01:32:58,080 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun, man, it's a lot of

1959
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 2: information process in real time.

1960
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 1: We're doing it like everybody else.

1961
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 2: But yeah, North Carolina, listen, I think you know we've

1962
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 2: been doing this all enough to know most of the

1963
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 2: conversation on Sunday into Monday really is about hits misses.

1964
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 2: This that the other thing I think, you know, by

1965
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 2: the time you get to midday Monday, you just want

1966
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,799
Speaker 2: bracket picks, right, And so I think as we discuss

1967
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 2: this conversation, as we discussed this bracket, I do think

1968
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 2: North Carolina getting in will be the number one talking

1969
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 2: point from now until basically midday tomorrow.

1970
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 1: Here's and here's the thing that I will say with

1971
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 1: North Carolina, and this is as how you're looking at it,

1972
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 1: North Carolina seemingly aarin because of their record and where

1973
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:49,839
Speaker 1: all of their wins ended up coming from beat everybody

1974
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 1: that they were supposed to. Yes, but they just didn't

1975
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 1: beat the teams that maybe they shouldn't have been. And

1976
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,600
Speaker 1: sometimes if that's the case for North Carolina, and that

1977
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 1: puts them at for the sake of this argument, sixty

1978
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 1: eighth best or thirty fourth best, thirty fifth best, then

1979
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 1: that's what it is. Then that's just because you can't

1980
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,640
Speaker 1: beat one, two, four, and five doesn't mean maybe you

1981
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:17,600
Speaker 1: aren't the fortieth or thirty fifth best team in the country.

1982
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 1: There weren't really bad losses. You ran down the losses

1983
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 1: that they had. So when you're looking at it from

1984
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: that perspective, North Carolina is who they thought who we

1985
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: thought they were, and they end up just getting in

1986
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 1: by the skin of their teeth.

1987
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, North Carolina finishing the regular or for not finishing

1988
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 2: the season, but for people just joining us, North Carolina

1989
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 2: twenty two and thirteen overall. Okay, So I keep reiterating

1990
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 2: it for the new audience. Quad one wins are the

1991
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 2: best wins you can have. Quad one losses are the

1992
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:52,520
Speaker 2: best losses you can have. North Carolina one in twelve

1993
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,919
Speaker 2: in Quad one. To their credit, though they were twenty

1994
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 2: one and one in all other games the rest of

1995
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:02,719
Speaker 2: the year, so base their losses were to the elite

1996
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 2: of the elite of their schedule. Now, even a North

1997
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 2: Carolina fan might argue with you, well, wait a second,

1998
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 2: we're North Carolina. Go you know, it's great that we

1999
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 2: beat up on Boston College and whoever. Uh, but you know,

2000
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 2: we need to start beating some of these teams that

2001
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 2: we're trying to compete with for national championships.

2002
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 1: But I just think it's interesting. I just think it's

2003
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:23,720
Speaker 1: very interesting.

2004
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 2: This will be the talking point and I'm I'm just

2005
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 2: curious to see how this snowballs over the course of

2006
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 2: the next few hours.

2007
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 1: And put it this way, by Wednesday, North Carolina may

2008
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 1: not even be in the tournament anymore. You go, it

2009
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 1: will play Tuesday against San Diego State in Dayton. But

2010
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say was I cut you off

2011
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 1: on the It's okay, That's all I had to say. Really,

2012
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:44,799
Speaker 1: you always bring up this point.

2013
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 2: There's always you know, we always fill out our brackets,

2014
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 2: and we just advanced that sixteed Oh they're playing who

2015
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 2: who cares?

2016
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 6: Well?

2017
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 2: Listen, North Carolina has proven that. I mean, they played

2018
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 2: Florida down to the wire. They could have be in Florida.

2019
01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 2: They played Michigan State tough, they played Duke to the

2020
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 2: other night. The only point I'm trying to make is

2021
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 2: I think they had won seven straight going into the

2022
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:06,520
Speaker 2: Duke regular season finale.

2023
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:08,640
Speaker 1: They're not a total pushover.

2024
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 2: And as you've referenced many times, we have seen maybe

2025
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,639
Speaker 2: not every year, but pretty close to every year somebody

2026
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 2: emerge from that six to eleven game to then win

2027
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 2: a second game to get to the round of thirty two.

2028
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 2: And it wouldn't be shocking if North Carolina was that

2029
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 2: team this year.

2030
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 1: Could be them, but again could also they be out

2031
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 1: of the tournament on by Tuesday night and then West

2032
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 1: Virginia fans back, see we could have done better than

2033
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 1: North Carolina did. That's what you get with the NCAA tournament,

2034
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,679
Speaker 1: all right, may not be the only wrong by the committee.

2035
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:37,600
Speaker 1: Erin Torres has a lot that he's seen from this

2036
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 1: bracket that he wants to get off of his jest.

2037
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 1: I have some questions as well, and I think that

2038
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 1: our conversation of really, what good does Sunday do holds true.

2039
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,599
Speaker 1: They're talking about they're taking a vote on Saturday night

2040
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 1: of the last teams completely get it. I'm not sure

2041
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 1: on how much Sunday mattered in this bracket breakdown. He

2042
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 1: is Eron Torres. I'm Dan Beyer. We are live from

2043
01:36:56,840 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 1: the tierraq dot com studios. More on the field sixty

2044
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 1: eight for the men's tournament next here on Fox Sports

2045
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 1: Radio Fox Sports Sunday. He's Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Byer.

2046
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 1: The bracket field of sixty eight has been released. As

2047
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 1: we are live from the tirek dot com studios and

2048
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 1: as we dive into this. If you're just joining us, Auburn, Duke,

2049
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 1: Houston and Florida get the number one seeds. The two

2050
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:23,679
Speaker 1: seed in Auburn South Region. Is Michigan State. The two

2051
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 1: seed in Duke's region is Alabama. That's in the east.

2052
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: The Midwest region number two is Tennessee. That's who Houston

2053
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 1: could face if seeds hold, and then Florida the top

2054
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 1: seed out west, with the second seed being Saint John's.

2055
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 1: We're going to dive more into the inner workings of

2056
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 1: the bracket. We've talked a lot about the bubble and

2057
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:45,680
Speaker 1: we're going to hear more in just a second from

2058
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 1: NCAA Committee Chair Bubba Cunningham and his interview that he

2059
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,720
Speaker 1: did with CBS after the brackets were released. He was

2060
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 1: joined by Vice chair Keith Gill. We're going to talk

2061
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 1: about the last four being out. But I mentioned Joe

2062
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 1: Lunardi earlier in getting a leave sixty five out of

2063
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 1: sixty eight. Correct, Jerry Palm CBS sports sixty five out

2064
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,600
Speaker 1: of sixty eight as well. It seems like the bracketologists

2065
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 1: were out on Xavier, Texas and North Carolina, but in

2066
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 1: on the likes of West Virginia, Indiana and in Boise State,

2067
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 1: and instead it's the Mountaineers, Hoosiers and Broncos that stay

2068
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 1: home with the Musketeers, Longhorns and tar Heels. Making it

2069
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 1: to the making it to the dance.

2070
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you we talked about it last segment.

2071
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 2: Is that basically, again, I know that there can be

2072
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 2: confirmation bias in a lot of things in sports. I

2073
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 2: think we see it a lot NFL draft time, NBA

2074
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:37,680
Speaker 2: draft time. Oh Shador Sanders is in a first round pick,

2075
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 2: let's all agree on it. These bracketologists, there is literally

2076
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:44,839
Speaker 2: a website that ranks each bracketologist, and they're all fighting

2077
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:46,840
Speaker 2: to get to the top of that list. And so

2078
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 2: I only bring it up because I don't think that

2079
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 2: all of these guys just whiffed because Jerry Palm was

2080
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 2: looking at Mike Decorsi's PA. You know, I don't know

2081
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 2: if Mike de Courses Jerry Palm was looking at Joe

2082
01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 2: lnardes Lenardi was. I just think that again, these guys

2083
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 2: and girls who do bracketology, their job is to do,

2084
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 2: you know, is to put together a bracket, not based

2085
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 2: on their own personal opinions, but based on what the

2086
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 2: committee has done historically. So when when everybody had Indiana

2087
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:19,560
Speaker 2: and West Virginia in, as well as generally Boise and

2088
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 2: everybody had North Carolina out, that reflects to me that

2089
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 2: whether it's.

2090
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:29,520
Speaker 1: Anything big conspiracy theory or not. There was some historical

2091
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 1: precedent that has never really been set before that the

2092
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 1: committee tried to use in this case. I agree, and

2093
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 1: that's why I bring it up like these to the

2094
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 1: point of you're not going to get every game in

2095
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 1: the matchup and you're not going to get matchups correct.

2096
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 1: But usually if you get sixty seven out of sixty eight,

2097
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 1: you hit it. Sixty five is a bit of a

2098
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 1: miss orre There's some data that the committee ended up

2099
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 1: using that maybe they hadn't used in the past, and

2100
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 1: I think that's what we're saying speaking of how they

2101
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:57,720
Speaker 1: got to the field of sixty eight and specifically those

2102
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 1: final four. Here was the conversation on CBS a short

2103
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:03,719
Speaker 1: while ago from Bubba Cunningham and Keith Gill.

2104
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 9: What was that discussion like with those teams that ended

2105
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:11,640
Speaker 9: up being on the outside in the last four or

2106
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 9: five spots.

2107
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, you know, we have a lot of metrics,

2108
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:17,679
Speaker 6: and we added a couple of this year. We added Torvik,

2109
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 6: we added the WOB and those are the ones that

2110
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:23,719
Speaker 6: were discussed frequently that you know, all of the predictive metrics,

2111
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 6: the results based metrics have been around for quite some time,

2112
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 6: and so we used a few additional ones. But you're right,

2113
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,600
Speaker 6: the last four teams that were out for you know,

2114
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 6: it was a tough call. The next team out was

2115
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:38,600
Speaker 6: West Virginia and they had an outstanding year and unfortunately

2116
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 6: no Tucker de Breeze was hurt and player availability is

2117
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 6: something that we talked about quite a bit, and then

2118
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 6: it just you know, Indiana was close, Ohio State was close,

2119
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:49,760
Speaker 6: Boise was close, and we had a lot of conversations

2120
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 6: about those teams as well. But as I said at

2121
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 6: the onset here is that's the hardest part of being

2122
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 6: on the committee is having to draw that line. But

2123
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 6: with only one real upset this year, and we're an

2124
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 6: awful lot of teams on the bubble that got in

2125
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 6: and last year, as you guys all know that we

2126
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,679
Speaker 6: had five and so we couldn't go very deep into

2127
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 6: the to that pool.

2128
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 2: Can I jump in on that really? Yes, So when

2129
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 2: we talk about I just completely lost my train of thought.

2130
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, well, you can try to think about

2131
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 1: it when we talk about expanding the tournament. Hearing him

2132
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 1: talk like this, you know, when we're talking about going

2133
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 1: to seventy two to seventy six. I was all four

2134
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:29,640
Speaker 1: because I thought we could get more in more exciting

2135
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 1: games on Tuesday and Wednesday, games that we would care about.

2136
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 1: But now we're to the point where we're not even

2137
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 1: We're not even four deep. As I told you, like,

2138
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,600
Speaker 1: I didn't think Ohio State was a turney team. So

2139
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:44,559
Speaker 1: when we're talking about expanding that you wouldn't even need

2140
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 1: to expand to seventy two to get Ohio State into

2141
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 1: this field. So when we're talking about expansion, this is

2142
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. So for I think it's another

2143
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 1: reason why fans don't like it. I think it's mostly

2144
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,759
Speaker 1: because they're afraid it's going to break up the bracket.

2145
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 1: And I know you told me earlier this week you're

2146
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 1: afraid of what it could lead to. But there's also

2147
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:06,839
Speaker 1: just this point of, all, right, are we really adding

2148
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 1: eight more good teams? And is the only way that

2149
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 1: going to happen if we get five bid steelers this year?

2150
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 1: There there was one to their point of one school

2151
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 1: that they felt was a bid stealer, and I believe

2152
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:19,640
Speaker 1: they're talking about Colorado State. I could be you know,

2153
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 1: misrepresented here, but Colorado State stealing a bid knocked out

2154
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 1: Boise State. Sure, you know, in essence because they were

2155
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 1: one of the teams. So I think it's an interesting

2156
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,560
Speaker 1: dynamic too because we expect a decision on the expansion

2157
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 1: of the tournament. Yeah, it would help West Virginia, would

2158
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 1: help Indiana, and it would help Ohio State. But how

2159
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 1: deep are we going? And are then going to SMU

2160
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:41,640
Speaker 1: Are we going to bring in UC or Vine? I

2161
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:44,200
Speaker 1: think that would be something that would be interesting. Are

2162
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 1: you down to North Texas? Like where? Like how far

2163
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 1: do you go? I think the expansion of the tournament

2164
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 1: didn't get a win today because of what we're seeing

2165
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 1: with this bubble. Yeah, so two quick thoughts on that.

2166
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,599
Speaker 2: One one of the biggest reasons I've been against tournament

2167
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:00,080
Speaker 2: expansion is because of the words they came right to

2168
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 2: your mouth. Oftentimes, the teams that are on the bubble,

2169
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 2: their fans don't even want to keep watching their team.

2170
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 2: If you're an Ohio State fan, you've lost, You've seen

2171
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 2: your team lose fifteen times this year, and like, I

2172
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 2: don't need to lease, I don't see it. They're not

2173
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 2: winning the championship. I'm ready to enter the offseason. You know,

2174
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,479
Speaker 2: in Ohio States case, it's probably more spring football. But

2175
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 2: you know, in a place like Indiana, I think they're

2176
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 2: just like, like, are they like I said, are they

2177
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 2: mad now because they saw Carolina get in with one

2178
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 2: Q one win, one quad one win, Xavier with one

2179
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 2: quad win. Yes, but I think part of that fan

2180
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 2: base is also ready to move on to the next chapter.

2181
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 2: Who's our next coach, who's staying, who's going portal? This

2182
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 2: that the other thing. So that's one and then two.

2183
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 2: I will also tell you this is that, as you said,

2184
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 2: outside of Boise, there were no true mid major teams

2185
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 2: that appear to be anywhere near the cut line of

2186
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:53,640
Speaker 2: this this this NCAA tournament. And so if you're not like, like,

2187
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 2: this is part of the reason why I don't think

2188
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 2: fans want to see expansion either. I think even in

2189
01:43:58,439 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 2: Ohio State fan, I don't want to speak for you,

2190
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 2: but even an Ohio State fan, even a Texas fan,

2191
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:05,720
Speaker 2: would sit there and say, Man, there's this team called

2192
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 2: UC Irvine that I know nothing about, but they went

2193
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 2: twenty eight and five and get in this tournament. And

2194
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 2: what I would just say really quick to that is

2195
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 2: on our Saturday show, we had a bracketologist named Rocco

2196
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 2: miller On and he referenced that the old metric that

2197
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 2: the committee used was the RPI, and he said, if

2198
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,680
Speaker 2: there the RPI was still in place, UC Irvine not

2199
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 2: only would have been in but would have trended to

2200
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 2: be like an eight or a nine seed. And I'm paraphrasing,

2201
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 2: but you get the point. I bring it up because.

2202
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:38,759
Speaker 1: The metrics are already weighed so heavily towards the power

2203
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 1: Conference teams that I don't think fan. You know, fourteen

2204
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 1: SEC teams is enough, you know what, however, many big

2205
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 1: twelve teams.

2206
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I just I think you're

2207
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 2: the best way for me to wrap this is by

2208
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 2: saying exactly what you did. You used the term this

2209
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 2: was a bad day for tournament expansion.

2210
01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 1: I grew with you one hundred percent. He's erin Torres.

2211
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm dan Byert. It's been a long day for Monsei Blaniel.

2212
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 1: She's about to call it quits, but she's got you

2213
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 1: just figured out, you know, the net back and forth.

2214
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:09,719
Speaker 1: I mean, what are you gonna do with all this knowledge? Now?

2215
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:10,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.

2216
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 4: There is a lot of knowledge that I've gained from

2217
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,400
Speaker 4: YouTube listening the last couple of.

2218
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 1: Hours for us.

2219
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 4: It is better, better than North Carolina already.

2220
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're tied with North Carolina. You could have gotten

2221
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 1: in with just that, right, we are tied with North Carolina.

2222
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:28,760
Speaker 4: No, but you already have one win and you have

2223
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:30,680
Speaker 4: plenty more time to get something to.

2224
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 1: Win three hours. It took Carolina eight months exactly.

2225
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 4: That's my point. So you're already doing better.

2226
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:36,640
Speaker 1: What will I do with it?

2227
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 4: I am gonna just let it be in my brain

2228
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:41,719
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna leave here and I'm gonna go relax

2229
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 4: because you're right.

2230
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:44,679
Speaker 7: I've had a long day, but it's been fun, guys,

2231
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:45,559
Speaker 7: it's been fun.

2232
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:47,720
Speaker 4: Let's check in case you missed it.

2233
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 1: In case you missed.

2234
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 4: It, the top number the four number one seats in

2235
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 4: this upcoming men's NCAA tournament, Auburn number one overall seat

2236
01:45:57,680 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 4: out of the South region, Duke the number one seed

2237
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 4: out of the East. Out of the Midwest, Houston is

2238
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 4: the number one seed, and Florida is the final number

2239
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:05,599
Speaker 4: one seed out.

2240
01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 1: Of the West.

2241
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 4: The first four out which you guys were just discussing,

2242
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 4: West Virginia University, Indiana, Ohio State, Boise State. In the NBA,

2243
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:14,120
Speaker 4: we got some games going on.

2244
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 1: The Clippers Norman Powell back, that's right.

2245
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 4: We're on top of the Hornets thirty two to twenty

2246
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 4: one after the first quarter.

2247
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 1: That's right.

2248
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 7: The tim Roves are beating the Jazz thirty four to

2249
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 7: twenty after the first quarter. Halfway through the third, it's

2250
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 7: the Raptors on top of the trail Blazers sixty three

2251
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:29,559
Speaker 7: to fifty seven, and early in the third the Hawks

2252
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:31,800
Speaker 7: have a sixty four to fifty nine lead over the Nets.

2253
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 7: Brooklyn was pretty much in front in the first half,

2254
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:37,640
Speaker 7: but Hawks have taken over. The Magic took down the Cavaliers,

2255
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 7: so their sixteen game winning streak came to one end today.

2256
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 7: Orlando won it one away to one oh three, and

2257
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 7: the Lakers defeated the Suns at home one oh seven

2258
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 7: to ninety six.

2259
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:51,040
Speaker 4: At the Players Championship. Roy McElroy and JJ spond both

2260
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 4: ended twelve under part today.

2261
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 1: So tomorrow Monday.

2262
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:57,919
Speaker 4: Will be a three hole playoff at nine am Eastern.

2263
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 4: So because of all the weather delays happened Manyana. There

2264
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:05,680
Speaker 4: was the LA Marathon today and Matt Reitman is how

2265
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say his name out of Illinois, first American

2266
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,720
Speaker 4: to win the Los Angeles Marathon since nineteen ninety four.

2267
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:14,759
Speaker 4: He did it in two hour, two hours, seven minutes

2268
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 4: and fifty six seconds.

2269
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:18,679
Speaker 1: Marathons, I do half marathon.

2270
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 4: I do half marathons. I'm only half crazy and that's

2271
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 4: my time for a half marathon.

2272
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:24,600
Speaker 1: And he's just wow.

2273
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 7: So Matt rightman, Yeah, I no, Yeah, that's impressive. And yeah,

2274
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 7: first American to do it since nineteen ninety four.

2275
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 1: So it's pretty awesome.

2276
01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 4: All right, guys, Always a pleasure.

2277
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 1: Thanks Fonzie, appreciate it.

2278
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 4: Jess.

2279
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,200
Speaker 1: I used to live near the finish line when it

2280
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 1: would finish in Santa Monica, and I went down one

2281
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 1: day and you know about this time in March. It's

2282
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:45,720
Speaker 1: one of the most inspirational places that you can be

2283
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 1: because it's just strangers cheering on strangers. It's really really

2284
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 1: awesome because you're at miles. I was at mile twenty six.

2285
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 1: There was two tons of a mile for them to

2286
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:58,719
Speaker 1: go where I stood, and it was, Yeah, just seeing

2287
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:02,599
Speaker 1: people cheering on a people and for what they have done,

2288
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:03,719
Speaker 1: truly awesome.

2289
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 2: Sounds like an NCAA tournament site when the underdog is

2290
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:09,360
Speaker 2: about to pull off an upset people just cheering on

2291
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 2: people they don't even know.

2292
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 1: I do want to play one more bit of audio

2293
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:17,520
Speaker 1: from Bubba Cunningham and Keith Gill representing the NCAA committee

2294
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 1: that made the field of sixty eight because there were

2295
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 1: fourteen SEC teams. It's something that we had talked about

2296
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 1: in just how this bracket would set up. This is

2297
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:30,760
Speaker 1: the two committee members talking with CBS and how they

2298
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:34,320
Speaker 1: had to adjust for the most schools from one conference. Ever,

2299
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 1: in an NCAA tournament.

2300
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 9: There's fourteen SEC teams, there's three opportunities that they could

2301
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:43,679
Speaker 9: play each other in the second round. Can you explain

2302
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 9: any adjustments that had to be made with bracketing to

2303
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 9: take on fourteen team from one conference.

2304
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 6: We didn't move anybody off of a seed line, but

2305
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 6: we really had to move people around to minimize the

2306
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:59,800
Speaker 6: conflict early and when you have, you know, four different regions.

2307
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 6: We tried we made sure we only had a most

2308
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,720
Speaker 6: four teams in one region so we could spread them

2309
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 6: out the best we could. We had a couple of

2310
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 6: contingency brackets and we actually had five, and so we

2311
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 6: had to go back and then try to rework the

2312
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:16,600
Speaker 6: bracket a little bit to move them apart to the

2313
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 6: best that we could, But you're right, fourteen teams out

2314
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 6: of one league in a sixty eighteen bracket is a

2315
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:24,760
Speaker 6: real challenge to get everybody in there and meet all

2316
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 6: of the principles that we have about trying to keep

2317
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 6: the teams apart.

2318
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:33,360
Speaker 1: And just looking at and one of the struggles that

2319
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:37,719
Speaker 1: they had, I believe Aaron was in the four, five,

2320
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:41,640
Speaker 1: six range, you only had Texas A and m Missouri

2321
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:45,840
Speaker 1: and Ole miss See teams, because you would love, in

2322
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 1: a perfect world you could set them up where they

2323
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:50,720
Speaker 1: would meet in the regional semi finals, but you just

2324
01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 1: didn't have enough schools to be able to put in

2325
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 1: a four or five to separate from the ones and

2326
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 1: twos that you had on the top of the bracket.

2327
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:02,719
Speaker 1: So you ended up having those three possible second round matchups,

2328
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 1: which all by the way, would require the lower seeded team,

2329
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 1: which happens to be from the SEC, to upset their

2330
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:10,640
Speaker 1: higher seeded.

2331
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 2: So I have Oklahoma Florida in round two. I have

2332
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:17,600
Speaker 2: Vandy and Alabama round two. What am I missing here?

2333
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 2: I don't see the.

2334
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 1: Kansas are no, excuse me? It was uh you had

2335
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 1: Vandy Alabama? Yeah?

2336
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:27,600
Speaker 2: Where what where were I don't think there's three. I

2337
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 2: think there's two because Texas. I guess no, Texas would

2338
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 2: play Kentucky in round two if they were to win a.

2339
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 1: Pair of games. There's that's that's what it would be. Okay,

2340
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 1: that's what the that's what it is. But again, Texas

2341
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 1: not only they're the eleven seed, Yes, they would be

2342
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 1: in that in that scenario.

2343
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're you're right. A lot of teams bunched

2344
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:49,519
Speaker 2: in that eight nine ten range. Arkansas as a ten,

2345
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:54,720
Speaker 2: Oklahoma as a nine, Mississippi State as in the eight

2346
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:58,479
Speaker 2: nine game. So so yeah, I I the committee had

2347
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 2: a thankless job. I think there are something to be

2348
01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 2: critical of. When you have fourteen SEC teams, it's inevitable

2349
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 2: that they're going to face each other.

2350
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that Oklahoma Florida one was the one that you

2351
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 1: had to again, and that's more of a toss up

2352
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 1: than any of them. I'm almost would rather have at

2353
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:15,560
Speaker 1: the seven to ten with the two. I just I

2354
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 1: don't think it's great for.

2355
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 5: It.

2356
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 1: But how many times it Florida in Oklahoma? I think

2357
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:23,600
Speaker 1: only once. That's what I was gonna say. In a

2358
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,719
Speaker 1: sixteen team lead in a sixteen team league with eighteen

2359
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:30,120
Speaker 1: games In most cases, you're playing teams only once, So

2360
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 1: to me, it's not that much different than playing a

2361
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:34,360
Speaker 1: team that you might have happened to catch in the

2362
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:35,639
Speaker 1: out of conference. You know what I'm saying.

2363
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:38,720
Speaker 2: Like Vandy and Alabama played once, it was eight weeks ago.

2364
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 2: Those two teams are completely different teams now than they

2365
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:41,559
Speaker 2: were eight weeks ago.

2366
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I was surprised with the Big Ten. This

2367
01:51:44,360 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 1: may be me being a Big Ten guy. I think

2368
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:50,760
Speaker 1: I thought that they had an opportunity to get two

2369
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 1: three seeds, and I actually thought Michigan was one of

2370
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:56,120
Speaker 1: those schools. So when Michigan popped up at five, I

2371
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:58,880
Speaker 1: was surprised. I was even more surprised to see them

2372
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 1: having to play in on Thursday, and then now you're

2373
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 1: facing you see San Diego. I think it's a really

2374
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:08,840
Speaker 1: difficult draw for Michigan, who just went on a nice

2375
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,639
Speaker 1: run to win the conference tournament. I actually like them

2376
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 1: better than Perdue, even though they split this year. Pdue

2377
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:16,919
Speaker 1: dominated them in one. I'm not as high on Purdue.

2378
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:20,280
Speaker 1: They have high point in the first round, and I

2379
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:24,559
Speaker 1: know you and Purdue fans always like to go head

2380
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 1: to head, but I'm just not as sold on the

2381
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:28,960
Speaker 1: boiler Makers as I am maybe a few of the

2382
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:32,480
Speaker 1: other schools in Wisconsin. Being a three seed not surprising,

2383
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 1: But they don't play in Milwaukee. They got to go

2384
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:36,480
Speaker 1: to Denver, and they also got to play on Thursday

2385
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:40,719
Speaker 1: in an early matchup, which would be interesting against Montana.

2386
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 2: Another Big Ten team with an interesting travel. UCLA Mick

2387
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,240
Speaker 2: Cronin has not been afraid to share his thoughts on

2388
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 2: Big Ten travel. After flying across country to play one

2389
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 2: game in Indianapolis last week, Mick Cronan referenced, Hey, should

2390
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:55,519
Speaker 2: we just pack for the whole week?

2391
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:57,200
Speaker 1: Is it worth flying back to the West coast?

2392
01:52:57,479 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 2: They will play in Lexington, Kentucky to open the nciach.

2393
01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:03,880
Speaker 1: They're too far away from Indiana. I mean, he's right,

2394
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 1: he should have just packed his stad and maybe they

2395
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:07,760
Speaker 1: would have tried a little hard still have his place

2396
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:09,599
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. He could have just you know, they all

2397
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 1: could have just crashed there, maybe trying to find a

2398
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Speaker 1: place in Bloomington soon. WHOA, he's Aaron Torres. I'm dan

2399
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 1: byer our final thoughts on this bracket? Are you ready

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Speaker 1: to give a final four? Do we have to do it?

2401
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:24,960
Speaker 1: I haven't even thought about this bracket. We do because

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Speaker 1: I hate that when people throw it out there, We're

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Speaker 1: not gonna do it. We are going to buck the trend.

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Speaker 1: for Life out here Fox Sports Sunday. He's herein Torres.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dan Byer. I know you're younger than me. I

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Speaker 1: absolutely love it absolutely reminds me of back in the

2421
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Speaker 1: day those brackets in the late eighties surly nineties. You

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01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:23,080
Speaker 1: still get that same feeling as a kid when the

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Speaker 1: Post it right after we get off the air. I'm

2431
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:45,879
Speaker 1: going to point out something that just this bracket stands

2432
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:47,760
Speaker 1: out to me. To it there's nothing you can do

2433
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 1: about it. I mentioned it earlier, but with the wes

2434
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:55,920
Speaker 1: western part of this country not producing a top college

2435
01:54:55,960 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 1: basketball team, when you have a West regional, they may

2436
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:03,080
Speaker 1: not bring a ton of the excitement. And not only

2437
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 1: will it not bring a ton of the excitement, there's

2438
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 1: going to be a lot of travel if the four

2439
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 1: seeds in the West hold up. In Florida, the top seed,

2440
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 1: Saint John's, two seed, three seed Texas Tech, and the

2441
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:20,680
Speaker 1: four seed Maryland. Three of those schools come from not

2442
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 1: the Eastern time zone, like we're talking East coast. I don't.

2443
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 1: Gainesville's not on the coast of Florida. But you get

2444
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 1: my point. When you have Maryland in College Park, you

2445
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 1: got Saint John's in New York City in Florida, They're

2446
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 1: all going out west. It's a tough travel. It's also

2447
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 1: a Thursday Saturday regional. So when we're looking at these

2448
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 1: brackets without Arizona being a top team, Orgonzaga or UCLA

2449
01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 1: or another West Coast school or Oregon. Oregon's five seed,

2450
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 1: they're playing in Seattle on Friday, they should be able

2451
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:54,800
Speaker 1: to bring some fans up up there when they take

2452
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 1: on Liberty. I'm just curious about the West Regional and

2453
01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 1: how much it's just not great to have if seeds

2454
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:04,720
Speaker 1: hold three teams from the East Coast going all the

2455
01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 1: way across the country.

2456
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 2: If you look at the entire sixteen team bracket, I

2457
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:10,640
Speaker 2: believe there's zero Pacific Coast teams.

2458
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 1: Two that are even in the Mountain time zone.

2459
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:16,360
Speaker 2: That would be twelve seed Colorado State thirteen seed Grand Canyon.

2460
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:19,839
Speaker 2: So you know, even if you get some mini upsets.

2461
01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:22,720
Speaker 2: You know, Kansas, which was the preseason number one team, Oh,

2462
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:25,440
Speaker 2: what's the scenario they make the Sweet sixteen, there's still

2463
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 2: thousands of miles away. Memphis is a five seed. You

2464
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 2: kna as an eight seed, So yeah, probably a lot

2465
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:32,839
Speaker 2: of good tickets still available.

2466
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 1: And you and I aren't going to pick a final four.

2467
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:38,920
Speaker 1: But I told you beforehand that it's going to be

2468
01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:41,760
Speaker 1: tough for me to leave Florida out of that center box.

2469
01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 1: I've liked Florida for a while. I think that we've

2470
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:49,160
Speaker 1: seen some pedigree run through this SEC tournament. Tennessee gave

2471
01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 1: them all they can handle. Florida's got scoring, They've got size.

2472
01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:56,800
Speaker 1: I love offensive rebounding. When you can get offensive rebounds

2473
01:56:56,800 --> 01:57:00,360
Speaker 1: of the NCAA tournament to keep possessions alive can turn

2474
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 1: into backbreakers. Because of even saying all of that that

2475
01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:07,760
Speaker 1: I said, when you go to the West Region, Florida

2476
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 1: coming out of coming out of that, maybe not having

2477
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 1: to deal with a fan base that travels to go

2478
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 1: against Granted they won't have theirs, but I don't think

2479
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna necessarily be too bad. I am really really

2480
01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:21,600
Speaker 1: high on Florida over these next three weeks.

2481
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 2: I think it's a pretty good matchup for them. I

2482
01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 2: think I listened, and I know I'm too close to it.

2483
01:57:28,320 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a lot of people that

2484
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:31,080
Speaker 2: maybe haven't watched a lot of college bass.

2485
01:57:31,080 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 1: But wow, you.

2486
01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:34,440
Speaker 2: CON's an eight seed. Oh my goodness, what a tough

2487
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 2: second round draw. Listen, Dan Hurley is one of the

2488
01:57:37,880 --> 01:57:39,600
Speaker 2: best in the game. He might tell you he's the

2489
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:44,440
Speaker 2: best right now. But regardless of what Yukon has been

2490
01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 2: in previous years, this is not who they are. This

2491
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:49,640
Speaker 2: year has lost four first four NBA draft picks off

2492
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:50,440
Speaker 2: last year's team.

2493
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 1: So for you, for people.

2494
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 2: Who maybe haven't seen a ton of Yukon or don't

2495
01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:56,400
Speaker 2: follow college basketball, this is not the kind of Yukon

2496
01:57:56,440 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 2: team that against that Florida team I think has much

2497
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:00,160
Speaker 2: of a chance to put up a fun.

2498
01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:02,200
Speaker 1: Are you with me? Auburn and Duke are the one

2499
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:04,200
Speaker 1: in the two one seeds in the South and East.

2500
01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 1: I think they're the toughest regions.

2501
01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think both of the eight to nine games.

2502
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 2: Mississippi State's this big, athletic, physical team. They actually score

2503
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 2: the ball pretty well. Duke big physical athletic. But again,

2504
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 2: what is the status of Cooper flag? That's one where,

2505
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:24,000
Speaker 2: especially if Cooper flags at less than one hundred percent,

2506
01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 2: I think there's a scenario where that game is, you know,

2507
01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 2: sixty two to sixty with seven minutes left, and you're like,

2508
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:35,520
Speaker 2: oh my god. And then I said it literally within

2509
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 2: thirty seconds of the first bracket reveal Auburn getting the

2510
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 2: number one overall seed.

2511
01:58:39,120 --> 01:58:39,520
Speaker 1: That's great.

2512
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:44,200
Speaker 2: You have face Louisville in Lexington, and I understand that

2513
01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:47,520
Speaker 2: you're the higher seed. I would also say Louisville is

2514
01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 2: about a forty five minute drive. They probably should have

2515
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:51,440
Speaker 2: been closer to a six seed. I just think that

2516
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:53,160
Speaker 2: is a tough tough draw for Auburn.

2517
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 1: The four or five matchup and and M just I

2518
01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:58,720
Speaker 1: shouldn't even say the four or five matchup in Denver.

2519
01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:01,680
Speaker 1: The game that you're gonna get in the four thirteen

2520
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:05,640
Speaker 1: and the five twelve should be magnificent even for Auburn

2521
01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:08,360
Speaker 1: in that scenario. Whoever holds if the Seeds do hold,

2522
01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:11,920
Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen matchup could be against the conference foe in

2523
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:14,560
Speaker 1: Texas A and M could be Michigan who just won

2524
01:59:14,560 --> 01:59:16,840
Speaker 1: the Big Ten tournament. Or if you get past that

2525
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 1: Louisville Creighton game could be one of the upstarts if

2526
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 1: you see San Diego or Yale who won the IVY

2527
01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:23,480
Speaker 1: League today but I think that the South and the

2528
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:28,240
Speaker 1: East are are the most difficult. I probably think that

2529
01:59:28,280 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 1: the East is tougher, but again, the full path, like

2530
01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:35,560
Speaker 1: Duke's not gonna face everybody on the bottom half, so

2531
01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 1: they're not gonna have to face a Wisconsin, a BYU,

2532
01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:39,760
Speaker 1: or in Alabama, They're only maybe gonna face one of

2533
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:42,040
Speaker 1: those schools. Same thing with Auburn. But I do think

2534
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 1: that the South and the East are the toughest regions,

2535
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:47,839
Speaker 1: more so definitely than the Midwest or West. I do agree.

2536
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:48,440
Speaker 1: I do agree.

2537
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:51,000
Speaker 2: We're still hour and a half in, still kind of

2538
01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:52,440
Speaker 2: processing this bracket.

2539
01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah No, I don't know what else there is to.

2540
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:57,240
Speaker 2: There's a lot more to add, which is why you

2541
01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 2: need to listen to Fox Sports Radio all night long.

2542
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:02,839
Speaker 1: Yeah again, Tractor Supply is gonna bring us our bracket

2543
02:00:02,920 --> 02:00:05,760
Speaker 1: challenge this season. Twenty five hundred dollars gift card two

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Speaker 1: Tractor Supply is up for grabs bracket on Foxsports Radio

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Speaker 1: dot Com tonight. You'll have until the first round games

2546
02:00:12,120 --> 02:00:15,200
Speaker 1: on Thursday, uh to get your picks in. It's all

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Speaker 1: sponsored by Tractor Supply for Life out here. I'll see

2548
02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:20,640
Speaker 1: you Thursday. He's Aaron Torres I'm Dan Byer. This was fun.

2549
02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:23,240
Speaker 1: We'll do it again next year on Fox Sports Radio