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Let's feel good. 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: America's Voice Live starts now and Welcome to America's Voice Live. 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm Steve Grew. We have a full show for you today, 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: but we have something special to make America Healthy Again Institute. 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: It's currently holding an important roundtable discussion where doctors, scientists, 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: and parents are all getting together confronting autism and discussing 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: real solutions. Let's listen in. 16 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: You know, these men and women who are doing this 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: aren't doing this to get rich. They're not doing this 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: for their careers. They're not doing this for notoriety otherwise 19 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: than they've made really really bad career choices. But they're 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: doing it because they're like Jesus, and they're touched by 21 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: the feeling of these children's infirmity. 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 4: And that's what they're you know, you talk about Jesus' 23 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 4: arms extended to society. 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 3: It is these practitioners who would dare ask the question 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: where pediatricians and family practitioners. 26 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 4: Are turning them away. So I couldn't have more respect 27 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 4: and more thanks for them. 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 5: So, Richard, you know a thing or two about research. 29 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 6: We'll get to the question answers about environment and genetics afterwards, 30 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 6: but you know, just give an opener if you would, 31 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 6: about this particular topic for the panel and your role 32 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 6: in it and what you know. 33 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you know, the research on autism at the 34 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 7: NIH has been very disappointing over a last number of years, 35 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 7: you know, and one of the reasons, you know, I 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 7: think is that, you know, there was a bill that 37 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 7: was signed they believe by President Bush to you know, 38 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 7: to to allocate so much money to autism research at 39 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 7: the NIH. But from what I understand, the NAH wasn't 40 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 7: given any money. So they just told everybody, all the institutes, 41 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 7: well you're all going to do autism research. So and 42 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 7: most of them said, well, that's not in our mission. 43 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 7: You know that for us to do that, you know, 44 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 7: this isn't the home for autism. So nobody really is 45 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 7: welcoming those grants all that much. The other issue is that, yeah, 46 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 7: we were in the age of genetics at the turn 47 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 7: of the century. 48 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 5: That was the really big thing. 49 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 7: We were going to sequence the genome and we'd finally 50 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 7: find every gene for every disease. 51 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 5: And it didn't work out that way. 52 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 7: But we trained all these geneticists and we have all 53 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 7: this equipment to look at genetics, and genetics is important, 54 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 7: and so what happens is you have these scientists that 55 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 7: are on the panels that review this work, who are biased. 56 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 7: That's what they do, so that's what they understand, and 57 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 7: they don't appreciate other, you know, points of view. You know, 58 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 7: it's not what they're trained in. And so those type 59 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 7: of alternative grants get you know, pushed to the side 60 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 7: and not funded. 61 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: And the fact is that the funding pay line now. 62 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 4: Is very, very very low. 63 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 7: You know, I remember when I got started in research 64 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 7: in the eighties, it was twenty five percent, So you know, 65 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 7: twenty five percent of grants. I mean they had a 66 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 7: good grants, you know, got got funded and now I 67 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 7: think it's down to four percent. So you not only 68 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 7: have to have when they say, advocates on there on 69 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 7: the panel, but you have to speak to exactly what 70 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 7: those particular people on the panel want, and it becomes 71 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 7: a self you know, perpetuating system where new research does 72 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 7: not get you know, funded. The other thing, I think 73 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 7: that in general, one of the differences from the United 74 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 7: States from other countries is that in other countries, a 75 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 7: scientist is given a salary by their university and they 76 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 7: don't have to write grants for their salary. They have 77 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 7: to write grants for their lab to support their people, 78 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 7: their supplies. In the United States, an investigator has to 79 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 7: include their own salary on the grants, and so that 80 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 7: means if they want a good salary, one, they have 81 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 7: to get lots of grants, which causes competition. Two. What's 82 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 7: really unfortunate is that that grant a lot of it's 83 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 7: taken up by salaries, and they can't spend that money 84 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 7: on technicians and other supplies, and so it makes a 85 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 7: very competitive landscape. And of course then there's the idea 86 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 7: at universities that they get a lot of overhead, you know, 87 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 7: and that's something that has been you know, talked about, 88 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 7: and you know, many mainstream universities, regular universities may get 89 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 7: thirty percent, but you have universities like Harvard, which get 90 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 7: one hundred percent. So if I was at Harvard and 91 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 7: I got a two point five million dollar grant, which 92 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 7: is your standard in our R one, the institute would 93 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 7: get another two and a half million dollars just to 94 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 7: pay for the lights and the room. Then in so 95 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 7: the universities make it so that this becomes very competitive 96 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 7: for these NIH grants because they want the money for this, 97 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 7: and so, you know, really good research becomes underfunded. It 98 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 7: used to be that many private foundations would fund you know, 99 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 7: some of this up and coming research, but as the 100 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 7: budgets got tighter and tighter at NIH, then they then 101 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 7: the people that usually get grants went to those foundations. 102 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 7: Of course, then there's the issue with with publishing papers too, 103 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 7: because if you don't publish exactly what they want, they're 104 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 7: not going to you know, appreciate that research. And then 105 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 7: it gets published in a lower journal and they say, oh, 106 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 7: you see, it's not good because it's in a lower journal. 107 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 7: So the way we do research, the way we appreciate research, 108 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 7: the way it's funded is very flawed right now. 109 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 8: Uh. 110 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 7: The the one of the major things I feel is 111 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 7: that there's many times not an appreciation of the impact 112 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 7: of research. And so you know, and this is what 113 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 7: you know, you know I said recently, is you know, 114 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 7: there's these people that get two and a half million 115 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 7: dollars for to study a gene that's affects three people. 116 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 7: You know, you could give me thirty dollars and I 117 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 7: can affect you know, probably more than that. But you 118 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 7: could give me several thousand dollars, ten thousand dollars and 119 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 7: I can affect you know, two point five million people 120 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 7: just by you know, spreading the word about lucovorin and 121 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 7: doing that type of research. So I don't think we 122 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 7: appreciate what the impact and I don't think it it's 123 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 7: really focused towards treatment. We're always looking for their cause, 124 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 7: and the cause is important. But as a doctor, you know, 125 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 7: I'm a doctor, so I want to heal patients. So 126 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 7: you know, that's great if you find the cause those 127 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 7: biological mechanisms that are you know, in the molecular parts 128 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 7: of the cell. But I want to know what's going 129 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 7: to help my patient, and if I can find something 130 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 7: that helps my patient. You know, you can figure out 131 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 7: all those other mechanisms later on. I want to get 132 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 7: you know, kids better. 133 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 6: Thank you, Richard, thank you very much. So I'll just start. 134 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 6: Since there's thank you both, I'll just start. Since there's 135 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 6: no one that you know willing to ask me questions, 136 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 6: that's fine. I'll just start with with what I want 137 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 6: to tell you guys looking at the genetics question. I 138 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 6: want to teach you the history of genetics research and 139 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 6: autism where Katie Wright and her father had a division 140 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 6: over this as a major issue. If autism is genetic, 141 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 6: it's nobody's fault. It's just something that happens and nothing 142 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 6: going to do with it. Your life is set. You're 143 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 6: going to have to be that way. It's not preventable, 144 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 6: so you can't treat it. It's genetic. 145 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 5: And so they set apart to set apart with the. 146 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 6: Whole genome studies to do genetics stuff, and they would 147 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 6: find genes that are associated with the risk of autism diagnosis. 148 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 6: But they couldn't find any genes after finding about six 149 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 6: hundred of them that where any of the genes explained 150 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 6: more than one or two percent of the genetic risk. 151 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 6: And then they kept searching and searching until they got 152 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 6: about eight one hundred and fifty genes, and Autism Speaks, 153 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 6: the organization that Katie separated from over ethics, they actually 154 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 6: celebrated every single one of those new gene discoveries with 155 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 6: the headline and sure enough, mainstream medium, Hey they found 156 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 6: a gene for autism. 157 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 5: Hey, they found a gene for autism. Hey, they found 158 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 5: a gene for autism. 159 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 6: After about eight hundred and fifty, it became really evident, 160 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 6: especially after I published my book The Environmental Genetic Cause 161 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 6: of Autism, that they weren't explaining autism if none of 162 00:09:54,960 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 6: these genes explained autism in terms of inheritance liability. So 163 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 6: a group of them put their heads together and say, 164 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 6: I don't know what we'll do is we'll actually pare 165 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 6: down that list. There's too many. We'll pare down that 166 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 6: list and we'll get to the core set of genes 167 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 6: that we think are most important. And of course they 168 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 6: went for the neurological genes. They didn't go for the 169 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 6: detoxification deficiency genes, they didn't go for the methylation genes. 170 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 6: They want to make it neurological neurodevelopmental from a neurological 171 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 6: like neuro impairment. And so they got this core set 172 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 6: of genes and said, oh, scientists believe this. They got 173 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 6: a headline, scientists still think it's genetic, but these are 174 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 6: the important ones we need to focus on. And the 175 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 6: purpose of that was really just for farming to go 176 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 6: find drugs. Two it's twofold. We're gonna go find drugs 177 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 6: that can impact these and maybe have some effect. Fair enough, 178 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 6: But then the strange thing happened next year. Guess what 179 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 6: they found? Hey found some more autism genes. Found some 180 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 6: more autism genes found, So they wanted the headline. So 181 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 6: they've they've kept funding new discovery research on autism genes. 182 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 6: And that lasted about a year or two, and then 183 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 6: it became really ridiculous to say that autism is genetic 184 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 6: when the numbers really show. And our messaging was successful, 185 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 6: especially Tony Bark, a friend of ours who's. 186 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 5: Beloved and belated. 187 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 6: That you can't have a genetic epidemic, right, it doesn't 188 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 6: exist that way. So we've all said it, and the 189 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 6: message I think stuck that the jig is up, if 190 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 6: you will, and the heritability to Tony Lyons mentioned heritability 191 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 6: and that it seems like there's autism traits that are heritable, 192 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 6: but that's only because traits are heritable. Think about the 193 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 6: diagnosis of autism, what is it you have, repetitive behavior, 194 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 6: you've got you know, whether you're very social not social. 195 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 6: These are heritable human traits. The fact that brain function 196 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 6: is horrible is what they're really tapping into on the 197 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 6: heritability of autism. 198 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 7: Right. 199 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 6: So a lot of people know dads of kids with 200 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 6: auto and they might have you know, they kind of 201 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 6: like to keep. 202 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 5: Them themselves or whatever. 203 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 6: But they actually lied in the last three major heritability 204 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 6: studies because in the first three heritability three or four 205 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 6: haritability studies, they would say, let's look at how much 206 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 6: of it's genetic with a correlation, and they calculated something 207 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 6: called liability. Under the liability calculation, you're looking at forty 208 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 6: percent genetics. Forty percent genetics leaves sixty percent for environment. 209 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 6: They couldn't have that, so they kept changing study designs 210 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 6: and doing it in a different way until they got 211 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 6: to the point where now they say, oh, it's you know, 212 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 6: between eighty and ninety percent. If you look at the 213 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 6: headlines today in the mainstream media, but they never refer 214 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 6: to the original studies, and that's not fair. They need 215 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 6: to refer to the original studies and say that the 216 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 6: range is here to hear, and why did it increase? 217 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 6: Why did the heritability increase over time like clockwork. The 218 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 6: studies that have never been done in that the NIH 219 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 6: need to fund have to include genetics and environment in 220 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 6: this same study with the same people. So not only 221 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 6: can you understand the percentage that's due to genetics and 222 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 6: the percentage that's due to environment, but as you can 223 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 6: calculate genetics times environment interaction. It's a very specific, easy 224 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 6: to do study design. It doesn't take three million dollars. 225 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 6: Takes about one hundred and fifty thousand dollars and a 226 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 6: good electronic health record and some surveys, and then you 227 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 6: put a P value on the genes, and you put 228 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 6: a P value on environment, including environmental common environmental exposures, 229 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 6: and you put a P value on the interaction term. 230 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 6: If anybody knows the statistician, you can actually get them 231 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 6: to agree with you that autism has not been studied. 232 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 6: They'll know what an interaction term is. We'll say, you 233 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 6: know what a good way to hide environment, do genes 234 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 6: over here in environment over here, but never do or 235 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 6: even do genes and environment in the same one, but 236 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,599 Speaker 6: don't look at the interaction term. You can bury the 237 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 6: action in the interaction because the interaction can be more 238 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 6: important than one of the main effects. I'm getting in 239 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 6: the weeds on this for a specific reason. Anybody from 240 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 6: this day forward who says autism is genetic doesn't know 241 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 6: what they're talking about. There is zero chance that anybody 242 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 6: knows what the size of that interaction term is because 243 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 6: it's never been done, and until it's done, nobody can 244 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 6: say it's genetic or environment. You can say it's environment partially, 245 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 6: you can say it's genetic, but you can't say either 246 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 6: or That's the nature of this ignorance, and it's enforced 247 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 6: ignorance and it has to stop. So another topic I 248 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 6: just want to mention briefly is, Okay, why doesn't everybody 249 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 6: get autism? Right, it's the same vaccine schedule, no problem. Well, 250 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 6: there are a couple of reasons. You can point to 251 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 6: the fact that the nurses weren't shaking up the vials 252 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 6: with the mercury in it, and some kids got larger doses. 253 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 5: That's the risk. You can actually look at the fact. 254 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 6: That there's a cohort of kids that got aluminum and 255 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 6: mercury containing vaccines could combined. But if you look up 256 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 6: the paper, autism is an acquired cellular detoxification deficiency syndrome. 257 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 6: I actually tested the hypothesis that these kids are not 258 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 6: able to detox as well as other kids, plain and simple, 259 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 6: and we birthed them, we brought them into and are 260 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 6: raising them in an increasingly toxic world. It's so bad 261 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 6: that I think we would have had an autism epidemic 262 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 6: eventually finding the same families, the same genetic lineages of 263 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 6: people who happen to not be able to detoxify as 264 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 6: well as others, even if vaccines were never invented. Petroleum 265 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 6: chemicals are absolutely poisoning our food, They're poisoning our water, 266 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 6: They're poisoning our medicines. And as usually, it's the waste 267 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 6: left over that they say, how do we agriculture, how 268 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 6: do we do this, Let's let's make let's make a 269 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 6: time kind of fertilizer out of this or something. Plastics, 270 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 6: the things that you hear about all the time. I 271 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 6: teach a course environmental toxicology because it's a huge concern. 272 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 6: So not only do we have to have NIH then 273 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 6: turn a sharp corner, do a one to eighty on 274 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 6: genetics and environment for autism, we actually have to have 275 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 6: real environmental science done. The major universities they have endowed chairs. 276 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 6: The endowed chairs include the chemistry department. Big chem doesn't 277 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 6: want anybody to know about environmental toxicology. You can't find 278 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 6: a course on environmental toxicology like the one that I teach, 279 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 6: eighteen lectures that tell you the source and what to 280 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 6: do about it, how to avoid it, how to shut 281 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 6: it down, the source of biological effects on how to 282 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 6: shut it down. So I taught that course because this 283 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 6: was before I developed that course, because I didn't think 284 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 6: we would ever get anywhere we are like we are 285 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 6: right now with Bobby Kennedy as secretary. I thought we 286 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 6: would never get there. I'm like, Okay, we're going to 287 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 6: have to clean up all of the rest of the 288 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 6: world because they're going to insist on vaccines for everybody 289 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 6: forever if we're going to have any effects. That's how 290 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 6: dedicated I am. It's online, you can go to ipac 291 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 6: eshid organ sign up for it. 292 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: But so. 293 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 6: That vaccines contribute to autism is that they aluminum or 294 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 6: mercury goes into the brain. 295 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 5: There's no doubt about that. Zero. 296 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 6: Chris actually showed that there's no doubt about the fact 297 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 6: that aluminum makes it to the brain. But we've known 298 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 6: it since nineteen eighty five when they found that amyloid. 299 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 6: That thing that you hear about with Alzheimer's is part aluminum. 300 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 6: Amyloid in the brain is part aluminum. So if it 301 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 6: gets to the brain and it kills cells, those cells die. 302 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 6: Microglia pick up those dead cells to clean up the brain. 303 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 6: The celeuar the debris, they become intoxicated with aluminum, they die. 304 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 6: If you distract your microglia during neurodevelopment, you cannot have 305 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 6: a proper neurodevelopment. They prune the brain at the right time, 306 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 6: in the right way to make the brain a human 307 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 6: brain the way that it is. I'm not saying people 308 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 6: with autism are not human. Please don't quote me and 309 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 6: twist that language around. I would never say that they're 310 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 6: beautiful human beings. The fact is, if you can't develop 311 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 6: your brain right because you have chronic microglial activation, it 312 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 6: becomes an unstoppable inevitability that eventually you're going to lose 313 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 6: everything that you got over neural development. When the doses 314 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 6: are accumulating, as the aluminum builds up to toxic levels 315 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 6: in the brain, you're going to regress. 316 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 5: That is known. 317 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 6: That is not controversial. Kids have chronic micro activation from 318 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 6: the age of five to twenty five. It's in the 319 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 6: literature on autopsies of kids who died from other causes 320 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 6: with autism. This other thing about neurodiversity. The last thing 321 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 6: that I'll say for my part of this is people say, 322 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 6: let's celebrate autism, it's neurodiversity. There's just differences, and differences 323 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 6: are okay. What's the average lifespan of a kid with 324 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 6: an autism diagnosis? 325 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 5: Do you anybody know thirty four in the United States? 326 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 5: Is that okay? 327 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 6: Is it okay that we're celebrating neurodiversity instead of saying what, okay, 328 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 6: So we really need to get the illuminum moti kids' brains. 329 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 6: We need detoxification kelation studies, not to type thegulation that 330 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 6: you hear about bleach and all that garbage. 331 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 5: Let's not talk about that. 332 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 6: Let's talk about mild, long slow kelation because it's chronic 333 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 6: exposure to toxins in the environment, including mercury, including aluminum. 334 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 5: And if you can get that out, I have a protocol. 335 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 6: I reversed my asthma, and I age needs to study 336 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 6: slow prolonged kelation to reverse asthma, autoimmunity, ADHD and autism. 337 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 6: That has to happen now that had doctor j Bottaria 338 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 6: should be putting a research program together. Bobby Kennedy tells 339 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 6: me they're going to study the health effects of aluminum 340 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 6: on humans. So that's good news. So the really good 341 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 6: news is we can do something right now. So let's 342 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 6: go to let's go to uh Richard, if you don't mind. 343 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 6: First Richard, what exposures do you see parents reporting that 344 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 6: attribute to the initial causes of autism? 345 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 7: So you know, so you know, we you know, as 346 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 7: you know, we do a lot of research on mitochondri 347 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 7: and so some of the studies, you know, we developed 348 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 7: an assay that is to look at not only mitochondrial function, 349 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 7: but mitochondri resilience. And what we've found is a signature 350 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 7: to neud developmental regression that for some reason, these kiddos, 351 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 7: their mitochondria is actually functioning about twice that normal of normal. 352 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 7: It's like a little race car, but as soon as 353 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 7: it hits a bump, it falls apart. But the other 354 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 7: thing that we were, you know, in our research to 355 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 7: kind of look at these things is we found out 356 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 7: that that environmental exposures in utero are highly correlated with 357 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 7: these changes in the mitochondria. So we've done a few studies, 358 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 7: one at looking at air pollution PM two five, and 359 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 7: we found that renatal air pollution exposure has just just 360 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 7: looking at mitochondrial function of a kid that's eight ten 361 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 7: years old has a very is a significant raw correlation 362 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 7: without connect correcting for anything of this. 363 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: We also. 364 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 7: Collaborated some of the work by the Mount Seini School 365 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 7: of Medicine with the baby Teeth where we showed actually 366 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 7: they had showed that manganese and zinc levels low levels 367 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 7: prenatally you can distinguish twins which was going to get autism. Well, 368 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 7: we showed those in the regressive type autism those change 369 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 7: mitochondrial function long term. 370 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 6: So those who don't know mitochondria are the parts of 371 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 6: the cell that power the cell. You can't do much 372 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 6: if you don't have an engine in your cell powering 373 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 6: the processes of the cell. 374 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 7: In the brain uses up twenty percent of the energy, 375 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 7: but it's two percent of the the waight of your body. 376 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: All right, Well, continue with the conversation. 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Excuse me, the Maha Institute's 406 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: roundtable discussion. I'm tackling the autism crisis. Here's more, I'm 407 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: going to adapt to that. 408 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 7: They're not going to grow normally, and they're actually going 409 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 7: to change the way they might conjure work because they're 410 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 7: not getting those fuels or maybe they're getting certain types 411 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 7: of metabolic intermediates that interfere with the way that they work. 412 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 7: So what we're finding is that these things are actually chance. 413 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 7: Generational heritable can be found in the parents, both mom 414 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 7: and dad some of these things, and you can detect 415 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 7: them before time, and then if you can intervene preconception 416 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 7: before we even start to have babies, then we could 417 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 7: take the take the change the rise in autism to 418 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 7: reverse the course. 419 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's better. 420 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 5: So do you think it would be like. 421 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,479 Speaker 6: Could be prevented if we stopped putting toxins on purpose 422 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 6: into children? 423 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 7: Well, I think there there's many different things I think, 424 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 7: you know, definitely the toxic load is important. Giving the 425 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 7: right nutrients, you know, making sure we feed our microbiome correctly. 426 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 7: That's something we even talk about which is transgenerational to 427 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 7: you know. So I think that this whole idea of 428 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 7: just becoming healthy, you know, and treating our bodies correctly 429 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 7: by decreasing the toxins and put in the fuels and 430 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 7: the good nutrients in could go a long way to 431 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 7: reversing a lot of chronic disease. 432 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you very much. Let's move on to doctor 433 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 6: Brian Hooker. Big hand for doctor Richard Fry. Please could 434 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 6: you discuss please the role of acetominefit a autism causation. 435 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: Well, when you look at how acetamin fin is detoxified, 436 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 3: it is primarily detoxified in neonates and post natally through glutathione. 437 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 3: Regulated pathways are basically methylation and sulfation, and so if 438 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 3: that is not properly detoxified, then a toxic metabolite called 439 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: an a pqy then can accumulate in the brain. N 440 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 3: apqi is a neurotoxin. We know that autism is a 441 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 3: neurotoxic condition. If you look at as the paper called 442 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 3: by Dystasio that came out in twenty nineteen that shows 443 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 3: Frank damage of microglia, who is a phenomenon called microglia 444 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 3: blebbing where the cells actually pinch off these small blebs 445 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 3: or exosomes that are essentially damaged cells. 446 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 4: So that is caused directly by na By. 447 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 3: Now when you hear all this, you know when I 448 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 3: first started learning about Tyler and I was like, oh great, 449 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 3: one more thing to think about, you know, one more toxin. 450 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 9: But it is. 451 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 3: I believe in many cases of the ideology of autism. 452 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 3: It is necessary, but is not sufficient. You still need 453 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 3: the genetic terrain and then you still need the oxidative 454 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 3: stress along with thecetaminifin for autism causation. 455 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 5: Is there a window of susceptibility for acetaminifin? 456 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 3: Absolutely the window of susceptibility is really post natal, So 457 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: what I would call perinatal during labor and delivery, especially 458 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 3: after cord clamping, because then you cut off the mom's bloodstream, 459 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 3: and then post nightally at that particular point in time, 460 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: then the risk regarding a seat of minifin does decrease 461 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 3: post nighttally as the newborn gets older and older. But 462 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 3: I still believe that there's a risk, and there's a 463 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 3: regressive risk of regressive autism up through five years of age. 464 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 465 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 6: I remember the advice of doctors saying, if you're going 466 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 6: to go in for your vaccine, give your kid aceto 467 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 6: minifhin beforehand, right in anticipation of a fever. So I 468 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 6: asked Richard about the maternal immune activation during pregnancy, and 469 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 6: the idea in the mainstream medical thinking is we don't 470 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 6: want infections during pregnancy, that's why we want to do vaccines. 471 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 6: But not every woman gets influenza during those nine months, 472 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 6: not every woman gets COVID nineteen during those months, and 473 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 6: not every woman gets tatness or pertussis during those nine months. 474 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 6: But every woman that vaccinates three times gets all of 475 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 6: those antigens as well, right, Yeah. 476 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 7: And I mean the thing is it's that you can 477 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 7: plan for this, right, if you're going to get pregnant 478 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 7: you can make sure all your vaccines are up to date, 479 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 7: you know, if you want to do that, you know, 480 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 7: and so you don't have to get vaccinated during pregnancy. 481 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 7: You know, other things like you know, influenza where it 482 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 7: may be a seasonal thing. 483 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: You know. 484 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 7: You know, one thing you could do is have people 485 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 7: around the mother get vaccinated so she's not exposed to that, 486 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 7: so they don't bring that home. So there's other different 487 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 7: ways that you can prevent those those disorders and even 488 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 7: get the vaccines that you need without doing it during pregnancy. 489 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 6: Thank you, so, Brian, Back to the seed of minefit, 490 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 6: it's been around since eighteen eighties. How do you explain 491 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 6: this dramatic rise of autism starting the late nineteen eighties, the. 492 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 4: Rise autism again? 493 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: It is it is sort of a fire triangle of 494 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: a cedaminifen oxidative stress. Best way to get oxidative stress 495 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 3: is to directly inject the toxins into your body visa 496 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: via vaccines and the genetic landscape on top of that. 497 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 3: But starting in nineteen eighties, there's an baby aspron scare 498 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 3: with rice syndrome, okay, and so baby aspirin was no 499 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 3: longer recommended during pregnancy or well essentially for post Natalie, 500 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 3: and that's when babyle the advent of baby tylenol started 501 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 3: to come about. Then, on top of that, when you 502 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 3: start to increase the oxidative stress. With oxidative stress, you 503 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: also increase the need for some type of pain reliever, 504 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: fever reducer, and so a cedaminifen used then skyrocketed along 505 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 3: with a vaccination schedule. 506 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 5: Thank you. 507 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 6: So sounds like you're moving away from pointing a finger 508 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 6: at vaccines and autism. 509 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 5: Is that true? 510 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 4: Wow, bites your tongue, dude. 511 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: No, No, absolutely not no, there are again, taking a 512 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 3: delivery system that gives you one hundred percent absorption of 513 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 3: a toxin is not good for you. 514 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 4: It is just plain not good for you. You cannot 515 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 4: give vaccines. 516 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 3: Do not get a pass in this mercury aluminum from 517 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 3: aldehyde polysorbate eighty triple live viruses, even a single live 518 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 3: virus at the concentration that we don't By the way, 519 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 3: MERK does not tell us how much virus they put 520 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: in the MMR vaccine. 521 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 4: Don't we know the minimums, We don't know the maximums. 522 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: So again, it's such a great, a great tongue in 523 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 3: cheek delivery system for these toxins. 524 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 5: They do not get a pass, Thank you very much. 525 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 6: So a couple of closing points, saying doctor Brian Hooger, 526 00:30:54,560 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen, couple of closing points that I want 527 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 6: to point out. You mentioned triple antigen sources. Under the 528 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 6: US CODA federal regulations, if you're going to sell or 529 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 6: distribute a vaccine in the United States, the only part 530 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 6: of the vaccine that has to be tested by law 531 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 6: for safety is the protonacious part, and they don't even 532 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 6: do that. Those safety studies would be animal studies where 533 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 6: they increase the amount of antigen to animals and see 534 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 6: what happens when you finally reach that overload point. 535 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 5: What's the LD fifty of the MMR. It's not published. 536 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 6: What's the LD fifty that's the number of animals that 537 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 6: die after vaccination? Well, you know, fifty percent. That's a 538 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 6: dose at which fifty percent die. But we have to 539 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 6: change the CODA federal regulations so that dose escalation studies 540 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 6: on every ingredient in vaccines has to be studied the 541 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 6: way that it is in drugs. There's fillers in drugs 542 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 6: and pills. You go to the pharmacists. 543 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 5: You get a pill. 544 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 6: There are things that cause latent release slow release of drugs. 545 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 6: They have to be tested, right, We have to take 546 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 6: the environment toxicology of vaccines seriously in the phase of 547 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 6: development bringing them to market. Then that's something we can 548 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 6: do with the signature. We can have a signing statement 549 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 6: by President Trump or Robert of Kennedy Junior changing I 550 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 6: think he can change the code fight relations that way. 551 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 6: I want to leave you guys with a story. It 552 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 6: was before COVID. I think it was about twenty eighteen. 553 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 6: Gracey and I like to travel and we're foodies, so 554 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 6: we stopped at this restaurant and I went up to 555 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 6: the bar to get a little you know, I don't know, 556 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 6: clue and cream for grace or something. And I sat 557 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 6: next to this guy and struck up a conversation. 558 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 5: What do you do. 559 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 6: Oh, I'm a retired pediatrician. Really, Oh, okay, what do 560 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 6: you do? I'm an author? What's one of your books? 561 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 6: Maybe you look familiar. Oh, the Environmental and Genetic Causes 562 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:53,479 Speaker 6: of Autism? He said, you use the word cause. Are 563 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 6: they allowing you to do that? 564 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 9: Now? 565 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 6: True story, that's part of the problem. Let's stop restricting speech. 566 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 6: Let's speak in plain English language. Patience and parents and 567 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 6: doctors need to be able to share and compare ideas 568 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 6: without getting at each other's throats. Be respectful, be kind, 569 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 6: and provide a world of a rational society in which 570 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 6: we are here to learn with and from each other, 571 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 6: and stop this nonsense. 572 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 5: Thank you all much for being here. 573 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 8: Thank you so much, Jack and Brian and Richard, thank 574 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 8: you so much. Our next panel, Paneltry, please welcome up 575 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 8: to the stages on Justice, redress and remedy. We've gone 576 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 8: over a little bit. They're going to kick us out 577 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 8: at exactly five pm, so I just wanted to let 578 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 8: everyone know we're going to try to like really keep 579 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 8: to the time that we have forty five minutes for 580 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 8: each of these panels. I want to introduce who's moderating. 581 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 8: Kim mack Rosenberg, General counsel from Children's Health Defense. She 582 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 8: oversees litigation to protect the health of children, protect parental rights, 583 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 8: and opposed censorship, among so many other things. She's also 584 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 8: in attorney in private practice located New Jersey, representing clients 585 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 8: nationwide on medical freedom issues as well as healthcare practice 586 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 8: management and disputes and insurance coverage issues, focusing primarily on 587 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 8: services provided to individuals diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder. Thank 588 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 8: you so much, Kim, thank you, thank. 589 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 10: You, Brian. 590 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 4: Are we getting me back broadcast? 591 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 5: Okay? 592 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 4: Perfect? 593 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 10: Hi everyone. I'd like to welcome our panelists, two of 594 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 10: whom you've seen already today, so I'm not going to 595 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 10: read bios for them, Drew Downing and Brian Hooker. John 596 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 10: Gilmore is up for the first time today. He is 597 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 10: the executive director of the Autism Action Network. He's an 598 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 10: advocate who's worked for twenty five years on public policy 599 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 10: issues concerning autism, developmental disabilities, and vaccine rights and safety. 600 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 10: Since two thousand and seven, he served as the ED 601 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 10: of the Autism Action Network. It's a national, nonprofit grass 602 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 10: advocacy organization that influences legislation and policy on a wide 603 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 10: range of issues impacting the autism community. He began his 604 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 10: work following a vaccine injury to his infant son that 605 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 10: caused extensive neurological damage, later diagnosed his autism. He's worked 606 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 10: with a wide range of organizations, including Children's Health Defense, 607 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,919 Speaker 10: and most recently co founded American Values twenty twenty four. 608 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 10: The federal super pac that worked to elect RFK Junior 609 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 10: as president. He has a master's degree in public policy 610 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 10: from the Graduate School of Public Policy at UC Berkeley, 611 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 10: and he lives in Long Beach, New York, with his 612 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 10: wife and his adult son. 613 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 4: So welcome, John. 614 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 5: I'd like to start. 615 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 10: Actually, you know, we want to keep things positive and 616 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 10: talk about hope and movement forward in the future. 617 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 5: We have to revisit the past sometimes to do that. 618 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 10: But I would love for you to share the miracle 619 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 10: in Albany about communication choice. 620 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 9: So do I live in New York and do a 621 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 9: lot of basically lobbying, mostly in Albany. I do some 622 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 9: in Washington as well. We used to do a lot 623 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 9: in Washington. Then once Obama came along, there's just like 624 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 9: it got to be hopeless. But now there's a lot 625 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 9: of hope again. But anyway, and my son is a speller, right, 626 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 9: I think there's probably a lot of speller parents here 627 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 9: as well, right, And we've the spelling is growing in 628 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 9: New York like it is in a lot of other places, 629 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 9: and we're running into more and more obstacles about, you know, 630 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 9: getting support for it. New York has some very generous 631 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 9: benefits but they won't pay for anything related to spelling. 632 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 9: We also have problems like people who spell in group 633 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 9: homes are not allowed to spell in the group homes 634 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 9: and things like that. So a group of us parents 635 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 9: got together and we put a bill together. This was, 636 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 9: I guess in about February, and it's called the Communication 637 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 9: Bill of Rights, right, and so we still started plugging in. 638 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 9: And I just knew, because I know, you know what 639 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 9: persuades people up in Albany, that if we could get 640 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 9: some spellers in front of the decision makers, we wouldn't 641 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 9: even have to talk to him, right. You know, it's 642 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 9: a pretty stunning thing when you see what the spellers 643 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 9: can do. And I was right. So we took around 644 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 9: a group of spellers to a bunch of different offices 645 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 9: and just had them start communicating with the people were there, 646 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 9: and we started this unbelievable momentum moving forward. 647 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: Right. 648 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 9: I've worked on bills in Albany like Ausits of Insurance 649 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 9: Reform bill took us eight years to do. Okay, so 650 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 9: we started the end of February. We got it passed 651 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 9: in the Assembly about six weeks later, because just everybody 652 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 9: thought it was insane what these kids could do. 653 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: You know we took all right, it is time for 654 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: a quick break. We're going to continue with more live 655 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: coverage at the Maha Institute's Roundtable on Autism in Washington, 656 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: d C. In just a moment. Well, we'll get you 657 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: back out to the Maha Institut's Roundtable on Autism here shortly. 658 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: But first of I talk about gold. The prices here 659 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: catching my attention again today gold thirty seven forty five, 660 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: silver above forty five dollars above forty five dollars. Metal 661 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: prices continue to skyrocket, hitting record numbers. That's why it's 662 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: important to ensure that you want some gold yourself, whether 663 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: it's a hedge against inflation, peace of mind during global instability, 664 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: or just for sensible diversification. Gold could be your ticket 665 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: to financial security in the future. Hear me to discuss 666 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: the current prices of gold as precious medals specialist from 667 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: Birst Gold, Philip Patrick. Phillip, I've been watching this for 668 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 1: a while. I'm not sure if gold's going to make 669 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: it to four thousand, but it sure it's gonna scratch 670 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: clothes and silver. I mean, if you bought silver here 671 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: a few months ago, it was at twenty eight, it's 672 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: hit forty five. I mean, good lord, pretty good return 673 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 1: out of investment one year thirty seven percent for silver 674 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: one year on gold thirty nine percent. It's beating the 675 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: markets hands down, isn't it. Yeah, it is. 676 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 11: And by the way, it's done that since the term 677 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 11: of the century. It's interesting. We've seen a massive increase 678 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 11: in the money supply of this century and gold and 679 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 11: silver have become growth assets. 680 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 2: I think we've got some scope for movement. 681 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 11: You mentioned four thousand dollars an ounce you're in good 682 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 11: company gold and Sachs, JP, Morgan, UBS Society General all 683 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 11: say gold will hit four thousand by years and now 684 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 11: predicting five thousand dollars at some point next year. And 685 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 11: I think it's very telling. It tells us that the 686 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 11: biggest banks in the world are not ignoring the rally. 687 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 11: They're leaning into it and encouragingly. The demand here isn't 688 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 11: coming from day traders. Its long term structural demand being 689 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 11: driven by central banks. So I think it's going to 690 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 11: continue to increase. 691 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: So central banks, government's getting involved with buying gold to 692 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: secure their assets. That's what I'm hearing you say, Philip. 693 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 2: It's exactly it. 694 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 11: These were countries overwhelmingly holding US dollars in reserves. The 695 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 11: dollars lost twenty five percent of its purchasing power just 696 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 11: since COVID five years ago, and it's a problem for 697 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 11: them just like it is for US. So what they've 698 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 11: been doing for the last three and a half years 699 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 11: selling consecutive records for gold buying. Single biggest six month 700 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 11: period in history for central banks had been the first 701 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 11: six months of this year. They are looking for an 702 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 11: alternative to the dollar. Seventy three percent of central banks 703 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 11: who are surveyed say over the next half a decade 704 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 11: they're looking to decrease dollar holdings and increase gold holdings. 705 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 11: I think we're heading back towards the eighties where gold 706 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 11: was over seventy seventy percent of central bank reserves. 707 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: And what would that mean if that were true, If 708 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: we go down that road to seventy percent bank reserves 709 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: in gold in the next twelve to twenty four months, 710 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: would that bean to the price of gold? 711 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 11: Listen that that is a continuation of what we've been 712 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 11: seeing now, which is structural demand increasing. It's driven almost 713 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 11: forty percent this year. I think it'll just keep going. 714 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 11: People have to remember Gold's value is a reflection of 715 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 11: the value of currency. As currency becomes weaker, gold is 716 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 11: worth many more dollars. It's what's been driving it, and 717 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 11: I think it's what will continue to drive it. 718 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: All right, So my question for you is this some 719 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: people watching gonna say, wow, gosh, I wish I had 720 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: bought into two thousand or three thousand dollars and hours 721 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: it's too late for me. It's not too late. 722 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 2: Is it not even close? 723 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: Right? 724 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 2: People said it at a thousand, at two thousand and 725 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 2: three thousand. 726 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 11: Gold is a commodity and it will go up with 727 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 11: the cost of living, and it'll go up as currency 728 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 11: losers value. So, like I said, I think we've got 729 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 11: a lot of scope for growth. Look at the investment banks. 730 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,240 Speaker 11: They are scrambling to up their predictions. They're seeing demand 731 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 11: and they know what that means for prices. We're moving 732 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 11: into a more multipolar weld, and I think gold has 733 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 11: a lot to. 734 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 2: Gain on the back of that. 735 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't overlook silver. Look, silver is not at 736 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 1: it's all time record high yet. That happened a number 737 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: of years ago, but it's pretty close now. Is silver 738 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: is also booming? What's driving that price? 739 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 2: Silvers also booming. 740 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 11: It's demand as well, both monetary demand people look at 741 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 11: it as a safe have in ourset, but also industrial 742 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 11: Look at what we're seeing AI chips heavily reliant on silver. 743 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 2: That industry needs it. 744 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 11: They're consuming huge amounts solar technology, electric cause then you've 745 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 11: got the traditional industries, electronics, medical. Silver has a very 746 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 11: broad industrial base. Demand for it is growing, and for 747 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,720 Speaker 11: about half a decade in the US, we've. 748 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 2: Been consuming more silver than we can mine. 749 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 11: It's why it's growing, and it's why it will continue 750 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 11: to grow, and I think these new technologies will continue 751 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 11: to push them. 752 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 2: On higher and higher and higher. 753 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 11: Silver's cheap relative to gold. Since the seventies they average 754 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 11: about a fifty five to one ratio. Even with the 755 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 11: upside in silver, they're about eighty three eighty four to 756 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 11: one today. 757 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 2: Lot of scope for growth in silver. 758 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: So just to retter to reiter eight, it's not too late. 759 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: You can get in. You can never diverse five with gold. 760 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: Right now, I'll give you the last word. 761 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,439 Speaker 2: Listen, it's certainly not too late. 762 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 11: Central banks are buying at record levels today, and they're 763 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 11: buying knowing prices will increase. What works for them as 764 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 11: you said earlier, Steve, it works for us. We have 765 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 11: the same problem, just at a much smaller scale, so 766 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 11: a lot of scope for growth. Don't be saying, you 767 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 11: know it's too high at five thousand or six thousand. 768 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 2: I think now is the opportunity to get. 769 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: In, Billa Patrick, always appreciate you being here, sir. Thank 770 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: you for the update. Do not wait, learn to the 771 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: diversify your savings with Gold. Do it today. Look, I 772 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: can look back over time. Gold may come back a 773 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 1: little bit here and there, but it never really goes backwards. 774 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: Texta word America to ninety eight, ninety eight, ninety eight, 775 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: claim your free information kit on Gold. Do that right now. 776 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: All right, we're going to return to that Maha roundtable 777 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: talking about autism and the possible cause, the possible effect. 778 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: Here's more, HHS. 779 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 4: Sort of changed the. 780 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 12: Game by rewriting the Vaccine Injury Table, which is the 781 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 12: definitional section that sort of governs how the vaccine program works. 782 00:44:52,640 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 12: But more recently, the Department of Justice that represents the 783 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,760 Speaker 12: Secretary of Health and Human Services in the vaccine program 784 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 12: sees sort of sees control of the decision making in 785 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 12: the program for at least probably the last ten or 786 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 12: fifteen years. And imagine if you put a bunch of 787 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 12: lawyers together and say what do you want to do? 788 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,240 Speaker 12: You want to You want to litigate because you're a litigator. 789 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 4: So that's what that's and that's what happened. 790 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 12: It started around the same time as the Omnibus proceeding 791 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 12: and has gotten worse since that point in time. To 792 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 12: the point now, which is sort of why I'm here, 793 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 12: is that it is nearly impossible to win a vaccine 794 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 12: case now, regardless of injury, if it if it's a 795 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 12: questionable case or has to be defended. Some of the 796 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 12: Special Masters have above a ninety percent denial rate on 797 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 12: litigated cases. And when a program was designed to compensate 798 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 12: victims in an area that we may never know for 799 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 12: sure what caused the injury. We can't prove vaccination did something. 800 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,720 Speaker 12: We can't prove infection did it. We just have theories. 801 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 12: We can prove it with animal models and support it, 802 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 12: but you don't know for certain. So the point there was, 803 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 12: since we don't know for certain, we need to compensate 804 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,280 Speaker 12: the close call goes to the victim. 805 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 4: That is how the vaccine. 806 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 12: Program was originally designed, and it's been hijacked, for lack 807 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 12: of a better word, hopefully not. 808 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 4: For much longer. 809 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 10: Brian, if you could talk a little bit about your 810 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 10: perspective on the omnibus autism preceding the OAP and what 811 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,720 Speaker 10: you'd like to see as compensation for families of children 812 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 10: with autism who were vaccine injured. 813 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 4: My family was in the OAP for sixteen years. 814 00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 3: We filed in May of two thousand and two, and 815 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 3: because of a statute of limitations, could only include my 816 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 3: son's fifteen month vaccine, So anything any contribution then allowed 817 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 3: the DOJ and their experts witness to say, oh, he 818 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 3: was tugging his ears at six months, so we must 819 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 3: have autism because he's tugging his ears. You know, couldn't 820 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 3: definitely couldn't have been the ear infections that he was 821 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 3: having over and over again, but yeah, it was autism. 822 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 3: And the other thing that was laughable was really that 823 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 3: it was going to be a friendly process. It was 824 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 3: highly contentious. We could not find expert witnesses because any 825 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,720 Speaker 3: of them that had any experience witnessing for the petitioners, 826 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 3: you know, as an expert witness for the petitioners, had 827 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 3: already been eviscerated and had committed career suicide by stepping 828 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 3: forward as an expert, expert witness and these individuals, you know, 829 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 3: special masters. 830 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 4: We had George Hastings as a special Master's master. 831 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 3: He went to links to make sure that he tore 832 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:19,359 Speaker 3: down our expert witnesses to you know, the very core. 833 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 3: It was like watching one of the old Flintstones episodes 834 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 3: where Fred Flintstone was in with his boss, uh, mister Slate, 835 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 3: and and then Fred would could shrink and get smaller 836 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 3: with every every you know, criticism, every slam. 837 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 4: That was what it was like. 838 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 3: Uh. And then finally we were thrown out of the 839 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 3: system because of a statute of limitation, and we never 840 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 3: got oral arguments whatsoever. 841 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 4: Neither did we get any type of compensation for the 842 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 4: amount of money that we spend for legal fees. And 843 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 4: so it was it was in that loss. These these 844 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 4: children need to be taken care of. 845 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 9: You know. 846 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 3: There, my sign is very very similar to your son John, 847 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 3: really really brilliant, loves physics, loves calculus, loves German. But 848 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 3: his whole body dyspraxia just traps him in his body. 849 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,919 Speaker 3: And so bar another medical breakthrough, our miracle then he's 850 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 3: going to need a lifetime of care, you know, just 851 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 3: twenty four to seven care. And so these kids, they 852 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 3: there needs to be some type of endowment for each child, 853 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 3: a child that's been affected to this, for this in 854 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 3: order to take care of them for the rest of 855 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 3: their lives. 856 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 9: Like that's some of that though, because I was my 857 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 9: son was in the Omnibus as well, and one thing 858 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 9: that I think is we have to talk about is 859 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 9: the Omnibus has to be revisited because well because and 860 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 9: I agree with Drew earlier today, Drew said that the 861 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 9: Omnibus was a setup from the beginning, right that it 862 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 9: was it was going to be a way to get 863 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,360 Speaker 9: all these cases put together and then just find some 864 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 9: way to get rid of them. Okay, but in the Omnibus, 865 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 9: they completely violated their own rules and they vited the 866 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,800 Speaker 9: law on multiple places because what they decided to do 867 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 9: was to pick six test cases to test various theories 868 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 9: of autism causation. Right, well, two of them. One was 869 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 9: Hannah Polling, Okay, that was just outright autism, and they said, 870 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 9: oh nope, that doesn't count anymore. And then there was 871 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:35,320 Speaker 9: another one where based on the an expert witness okay, 872 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 9: changed their opinion about what caused autism and the individual concerned, 873 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 9: So there was another one. But the lawyers for the 874 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 9: government never let that testimony, that changed testimony come back 875 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 9: into the system. So you already had two out of 876 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:58,240 Speaker 9: the six saying yeah, it was autism, and they completely 877 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 9: disregarded all that. I can't imagine a more ill, moral, 878 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 9: illegal thing to do. And at the very least it 879 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 9: has to be investigated, if not just completely reopened with 880 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 9: the look pract provisions for other families as well. I mean, 881 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 9: this three year period is just insane. If it's any 882 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 9: other kind of injury, correct me if I'm wrong, Drew. 883 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 9: But if it's a medical injury, you have until a 884 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 9: minor is no longer a minor to file and we 885 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 9: got three years with vaccines. 886 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's part of the it's it's part of the fallacy. 887 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 12: And and and certainly something that that that that I 888 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 12: have flagged, Now that's a we need the legislature to 889 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 12: weigh in on that, because that's in the statute itself 890 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 12: would have so we have to statutorially change the statial limitations. 891 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 12: But yeah, it's it's a it's a situation where it's 892 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 12: three years from the first onset of symptoms. Period doesn't 893 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 12: matter if your child is five years. 894 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: Old or no. Well, a whole lot to learn at 895 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: the Mid High Institute's Roundtable on Autism in Washington, d C. 896 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,240 Speaker 1: Glad you enjoyed part of that today was we dipped 897 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: into that. Don't forget to join me tomorrow. Start your 898 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 1: broadcast day here in Real America's Voice. It's free for 899 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 1: all Friday. What does that mean? I means you get 900 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,919 Speaker 1: to call in and talk to me live on the air. 901 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 1: You don't want to miss that right here, the Steve 902 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: Rivers Show on Real America's Voice. 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