Speaker 1: Well, the Celtics and Timberwolves still atop. They're mighty purchase
Speaker 1: of their respective conferences.
Speaker 2: But okay, see in Orlando right at their heels. It's
Speaker 2: kind of amazing to watch. And we'll get into all of.
Speaker 1: That and the state of the Utah Jazz with desret
Speaker 1: Beat writer Sarah Todd on today's episode, I'm Miles Greg.
Speaker 2: And I'm Jack O'Brien, and this is.
Speaker 3: Smart driving, spinning.
Speaker 4: Corry a three step again.
Speaker 5: Be honest with.
Speaker 1: You. Oh, Sarah Todd, You're bad, bad, one of our favorites.
Speaker 2: It's so good to have you. How are you? How
Speaker 2: is it being a beat reporter? How is it being
Speaker 2: the coho of the Unsalvageable podcast former Crest Faster? How
Speaker 2: is that light slows up top?
Speaker 6: It's like Lebron James, It's it's pretty good. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 6: eleven eleven years into beat writing, how is it it's
Speaker 6: the same?
Speaker 2: Okay? Good to know? Good to know? And what is
Speaker 2: it with beat writing? What is it about it?
Speaker 7: What is making beats the by dreh The fact that
Speaker 7: Timberwolves okay See in Orlando are three of the top
Speaker 7: four teams is not like that?
Speaker 2: We nobody had that.
Speaker 5: Coming in absolutely not this is this is very fun.
Speaker 2: You had it in a fun way.
Speaker 1: Okay, see you know I did have Okay, see like
Speaker 1: in a jokey way.
Speaker 2: You're always like, oh joy, oh, I guess now, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: very serious money where my mouth is? That's true. You
Speaker 2: did put it where your mouth.
Speaker 4: But that's only if they win the title. The Timberwolves,
Speaker 4: like the Edwards being as good as he is. This
Speaker 4: is I'm so happy.
Speaker 1: I felt like I felt like a couple of months ago,
Speaker 1: we were like, okay, go bear and cat. Ye, we'll
Speaker 1: see if this everything works. Everybody, and now look at us.
Speaker 1: Now look at us, Sarah. Are you who are you
Speaker 1: most shocked by?
Speaker 8: Well, I'm looking.
Speaker 6: I'm looking right now at what my preseason picks were
Speaker 6: for like one through eight seeds HM and I had
Speaker 6: Timberwolves at eight in the West, Thunder at seven, but
Speaker 6: I had Orlando as the bad team you want to
Speaker 6: watch on league pass that won't be in the top eight. Yeah,
Speaker 6: So it is surprising. And if you know full honesty here,
Speaker 6: I have watched a total of two Magic games, so
Speaker 6: I don't really understand what's happening.
Speaker 8: Because in the games that I watched. Not great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it sounds like it's like Paolo has figured
Speaker 1: something out too U and like their bench has become formidable.
Speaker 1: I think that's a big thing that I gleaned from
Speaker 1: my light highlight watching.
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, okay, incredible.
Speaker 4: Last year though, Yeah, Paolo, And.
Speaker 1: I think he's been playing more because Markel Foltz has
Speaker 1: been out.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and even Jack your boy Markel Mark.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited for this team. I love a young
Speaker 4: team that's come to play, and this is where the
Speaker 4: inn season tournament is going to be fun to like
Speaker 4: see these teams play, assuming they're not eliminated yet. I
Speaker 4: don't totally understand it. I don't know why my Sixers
Speaker 4: are already eliminated.
Speaker 1: But when beat the breaks off the Lakers, who are
Speaker 1: four and oer right now in.
Speaker 4: The in season tournament games, yeah, yeah, someone call it arbitrary,
Speaker 4: but I do, like, I respect a team that's able
Speaker 4: to turn it on for the in season tournament. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 4: And it seems like the Lakers are that. It seems
Speaker 4: like the Pacers are that. It's going to be fun
Speaker 4: to see some of these young teams, including the Pacers. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know, play with something on the line in a
Speaker 4: tournament that has the single elimination of.
Speaker 8: It all the tournament that is in the season.
Speaker 2: It is in the season.
Speaker 1: And that more about said exactly the cash prize on offer.
Speaker 4: Just call it the NBA Cup, right, something easy, the
Speaker 4: Vegas Cup, the NBA Cup, the Jerry West Cup.
Speaker 8: The Cup is actually called the NBA Cup, So just
Speaker 8: call it that.
Speaker 2: Oh right, oh the actual trophy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, why not?
Speaker 1: I mean I think like most like leagues or sports
Speaker 1: that have these kinds of tournaments, it's always.
Speaker 2: It's that it's it's ripe for sponsoring naming.
Speaker 8: You know, that's going to be the Taco Bell NBA Cup.
Speaker 4: This is a Baja blast flowing out of the cup
Speaker 4: Cup with the bill in Baja last fountain. The just
Speaker 4: ideas that you're free to take the NBA Yes, it
Speaker 4: feels like Lebron wanting to turn it on for the
Speaker 4: nd season tournament. This is assuming that like the fact
Speaker 4: therefore I was randomness and but like that that actually
Speaker 4: makes sense. I think last week I was like, I'm
Speaker 4: not expecting big things from the Lakers or like teams
Speaker 4: like that necessarily who you know, they won the title
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. This won't matter to them,
Speaker 4: but it does make sense Lebron wanting to be part
Speaker 4: of NBA history winning the first NBA Cup. Maybe maybe
Speaker 4: they'll call it the Lebron James Cup at one point,
Speaker 4: Lebron James's Cup.
Speaker 1: We got to go for something we can win, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's you know, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1: It's about knowing you're finding your spaces and then attacking,
Speaker 1: you know, right now, Like I said, that game against
Speaker 1: the Sixers was horrifying to watch, and I'm surprised you
Speaker 1: didn't watch it.
Speaker 6: It was so funny in the game because even when
Speaker 6: it was garbage time, like Mo Bamba was killing it
Speaker 6: against the Lakers, Like the Lakers looked so bad that
Speaker 6: even all of the on the Sixers looked amazing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was Sixers, don't have they just have the
Speaker 5: next man up.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's backs raged, he's coming back slowly.
Speaker 1: I know you thought you could quit your Sixers, but
Speaker 1: it was like so funny with Wexler was on, It's
Speaker 1: the same thing. I was like, I know, I know
Speaker 1: you said you're past it, but there's no way you
Speaker 1: can watch this and be like's.
Speaker 4: There's a small flame, a small pilot flame that stays
Speaker 4: on in the part of Sixers fans, but it takes
Speaker 4: a lot that you're you're constantly checking the pilot flame,
Speaker 4: be like that thing must be out because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, water is cold, yeah, but is icy the side
Speaker 2: of it. Nothing happened.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've got another in season tournament thought that I
Speaker 6: want to bang around. I think that the risk is
Speaker 6: that after years of this being a thing, because the
Speaker 6: NBA is going to keep it that you know, there's
Speaker 6: teams that we always say, oh, they're a good regular
Speaker 6: season team, right, which just means that they're garbage in
Speaker 6: the postseason.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a nice way of saying that.
Speaker 6: And I think that you get their risk is being
Speaker 6: the team that's always good in the n season tournament
Speaker 6: and then it becomes an insult. It's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 6: they're always really good in the nd season tournament.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they really turn it on a couple of Fridays
Speaker 2: a year.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think I think that we might be headed towards
Speaker 6: towards that they're a Vegas team.
Speaker 4: They really show up in UH in the summer league
Speaker 4: and in season tournament.
Speaker 5: Right, it's the.
Speaker 2: Worst case scenario.
Speaker 4: I feel like if they lock in the you know,
Speaker 4: the stakes, like after fans have a couple of like
Speaker 4: really fun single elimination games under their belts, like it
Speaker 4: starts to become a thing that people will value, you know.
Speaker 4: Like there's that one There's that one All Star game
Speaker 4: where everybody played really hard, and I feel like if
Speaker 4: that had just like kept going like that, that would
Speaker 4: have been That.
Speaker 8: Was the first year of the they did the.
Speaker 5: Ending right, Yeah exactly, Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2: That was so fun. That fourth quarter like that was crazy.
Speaker 4: Like if that had kept going, I feel like instead
Speaker 4: of like everyone would have been like, you know, actually
Speaker 4: paying attention to who won in the All Star Games.
Speaker 4: So yeah, maybe we get a especially if people are
Speaker 4: playing hard.
Speaker 5: I feel like it needs to be more money. It
Speaker 5: can't be just a watch for these guys.
Speaker 1: I mean it's some people. I mean, yeah, who is
Speaker 1: Spencer Dinnit. He was like, hey, that's a Rolls Royce,
Speaker 1: so he's you know something.
Speaker 6: I did a huge article on this during the summer
Speaker 6: and like dug into it and talk to a bunch
Speaker 6: of players and like high paid players, low paid players
Speaker 6: like run the gambit and it's not low stakes to anyone,
Speaker 6: like even the away Yes, the highest paid player is
Speaker 6: like I can buy a vacation house somewhere with that,
Speaker 6: yeah yeah, right, and the like. Also, you have to
Speaker 6: keep in mind that, like the the financial pool for
Speaker 6: like the regular season and the playoffs, like the postseason pool,
Speaker 6: the most money that you can win is if you
Speaker 6: are a number one seed who then goes on to
Speaker 6: win the finals like the Nuggets did last season, right yeah,
Speaker 6: and if you and so last season the Nuggets made
Speaker 6: the absolute most money that they could because you progressively
Speaker 6: get more money each round of the playoffs that you
Speaker 6: continue to go. And that ended up being around four
Speaker 6: hundred and seventy thousand dollars per person for the Nuggets.
Speaker 5: Oh wow.
Speaker 6: Now that is before taxes and before they buy the
Speaker 6: championship rings, because that has to come out of that pool,
Speaker 6: right yeah.
Speaker 5: And it's before the championship rings come out of that pool.
Speaker 8: Yeah. And it's before I would be like, give.
Speaker 4: Me a garbage championship ring, give me like, give me
Speaker 4: the wedding band that I have.
Speaker 2: Also six figures for the ring.
Speaker 6: I think it's I mean, I think it's past six figures.
Speaker 2: I think it's just about yeah.
Speaker 6: So then you also every team then like comes together
Speaker 6: and they vote on who else on staff will be
Speaker 6: getting part of the pool, and so like that includes
Speaker 6: trainers and chefs, and they always they always vote to
Speaker 6: give some money to people because they don't want to
Speaker 6: seem like horrible humans, and so it ends up being
Speaker 6: far less than they would get if they just won
Speaker 6: the nentries and turnament right there, four hundred.
Speaker 4: And it's not like these guys aren't competitive, right, Like
Speaker 4: they're all super competitive. Like that's how they got here
Speaker 4: in the first place. Is they have that gene where
Speaker 4: like they're they're all playing cards like constantly, they're playing
Speaker 4: each other in video games.
Speaker 6: They're right, And like the Jazz head coach Will Hardy,
Speaker 6: the way that he put it, he was like, I
Speaker 6: can put five dollars on the line during practice for
Speaker 6: free throws and guys will nearly kill.
Speaker 8: Each other to win.
Speaker 5: Right, that's great.
Speaker 6: So like there you put five hundred thousand dollars in
Speaker 6: front of them, like yeah, they want it, yeah, because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, because even to your point, it's like the
Speaker 1: only other way you could get that kind of money
Speaker 1: close to that money is to go from the one
Speaker 1: seed and win the whole thing, and then even after
Speaker 1: that you're left with whatever.
Speaker 6: So yeah, the Lakers in the COVID year, which was
Speaker 6: the pool, was a little bit less in the bubble
Speaker 6: when they won the championship that year, but not that
Speaker 6: much because then Escro rolled out and it all evened
Speaker 6: out anyways. But once everything was paid, ringspot, et cetera,
Speaker 6: every player got a little over one hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, yeah, okay, oh and thank you. Jabari sent
Speaker 1: me an article. The rings can go from twenty to
Speaker 1: or ten to four hundred, twen to forty thousand, and
Speaker 1: some to even exceed one hundred thousand, so I guess
Speaker 1: it all depends on how drippy your ring is.
Speaker 2: But yeah, wow, well icy, Yeah, that's that's a lot
Speaker 2: of watches. That's a lot of the watches I normally buy.
Speaker 4: Yeah for five, State of the Jazz six and eleven,
Speaker 4: and they got some good young'ins.
Speaker 5: What are you seeing will focusing on the Jazz.
Speaker 8: State of the Jazz bird's eye view not great?
Speaker 5: Okay, we can move along.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 6: They had a really really ugly two game road trip
Speaker 6: where they lost against the Lakers and then the Blazers,
Speaker 6: and it wasn't even like that the Lakers beat them,
Speaker 6: because that would have been fine, but it was that
Speaker 6: it was so embarrassing the way they played. And then
Speaker 6: it was even more embarrassing the next night against the Blazers,
Speaker 6: and so then they had kind of a they had
Speaker 6: a heart to heart film session the next day where
Speaker 6: everyone was called out. I mean they were I think
Speaker 6: they were averaging like twenty one turnovers a game. They'd
Speaker 6: had a couple of games with twenty three, twenty four.
Speaker 6: It was really really ugly stuff. Everyone was playing isoball.
Speaker 6: It was gross. And Will Hardy, the coach of the Jazz,
Speaker 6: he's been saying since he came the head coach, like
Speaker 6: I don't believe in three minutes. Of course, during a
Speaker 6: tank season like that doesn't really matter, right, but during
Speaker 6: this season, when they do want to win games, it
Speaker 6: does matter. And so he started benching guys, and I
Speaker 6: mean he's started Lowry Marking and Jordan Clarkson uh in
Speaker 6: their defense were out for injury and illness on the
Speaker 6: first game against the Pelicans a couple days ago. But
Speaker 6: even then, it's not like he started Colin Sexton or
Speaker 6: Taylor Harton Tucker are guys who had been in the
Speaker 6: rotation before. Instead of starting them, he dug down like
Speaker 6: onto the third string and started Oh Mary at seven
Speaker 6: Chris Dunn Simone Fontechio the minutes I saw it was
Speaker 6: it was a bunch of It was a bunch of guys,
Speaker 6: you know, right right, And the message was, I mean
Speaker 6: and he will Hardy literally said, if you're not going
Speaker 6: to play hard and pass, then you can't play for.
Speaker 8: The Utah Jazz.
Speaker 2: Yeah. What was that other thing he said? I think
Speaker 2: a little more colorful.
Speaker 1: He's like, if you write the Utah Jazz jersey, you
Speaker 1: need to give up about about the Utah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, that was. That was the line. After after
Speaker 8: the Portland loss, he was he was pretty fed.
Speaker 1: Up and undefeated now since then, exactly record they turned
Speaker 1: something on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they Fontechio is a great name, by the way,
Speaker 4: I just saw. I think that was the first time
Speaker 4: I heard Simone Fontechio.
Speaker 5: Yes, bro, Yes, give me more with that name.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So they've been playing really hard the last couple of games.
Speaker 6: They won against the Pelicans with Zion but without Lowry Markinen,
Speaker 6: So that was.
Speaker 8: A good one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but we'll see, we'll see, you know, like they
Speaker 6: have four bad games in a row and a couple
Speaker 6: of good ones. I'm not going to say that everything's
Speaker 6: turned around, sure, sixteen games into the season or whatever.
Speaker 1: So but I did see that Taylor Horne Tucker had
Speaker 1: no turnovers in the last game, which is a lot
Speaker 1: less minutes. Yeah, and seven assists though. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: that was quietly efficient there.
Speaker 5: I found my basketball career.
Speaker 4: The only thing that really helped with my turnovers was
Speaker 4: when they cut my minutes completely down and then my
Speaker 4: turnovers went way complete.
Speaker 2: Yeah, zero zero minutes too, but you know what, zero turnovers.
Speaker 2: So but man, when I bragged I.
Speaker 8: Am my sister, turnover ratio is perfect.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, get in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've been watching some Yant George highlights.
Speaker 2: Man, this kid, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8: He's the real deal. He's he is the real deal.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Like he's an absolute hoops junkie, which is very fun.
Speaker 6: Like it's like I kind of Jamal Crawford esque, right,
Speaker 6: Like the guys come into the league and they love ball.
Speaker 6: A lot of them do, right, but like real hoop
Speaker 6: junkies are that's not everyone. And this kid, he got
Speaker 6: drafted by the Jazz and immediately went back and watched
Speaker 6: all eighty two of the previous season, and then he
Speaker 6: asked for clips to be cut for him of Mike
Speaker 6: Conley playing with Jordan Clarkson and Lowry markinan so that
Speaker 6: he could get them the ball in the spots that
Speaker 6: they liked when they had Mike Conley.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 8: So that's that's your rookie mentality.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And to top it off, I saw that absolute sickening
Speaker 1: donkey yet on Dyson Daniels. I was like, bro, you
Speaker 1: that's a that's a missing poster, which is funny.
Speaker 8: That was Kiante George's first first poster ever, like.
Speaker 2: Life he wow. Yeah.
Speaker 6: He he'd started dunkey when he was eighth grade and
Speaker 6: he said like everything's been open in transition during warm
Speaker 6: ups stuff like that. Uh, and he was like I've
Speaker 6: been looking for a body.
Speaker 1: And by Daniels, Wow, I mean beautifully too, Like some
Speaker 1: of the photographs are true poetry.
Speaker 8: It's so fun.
Speaker 6: I mean, Kanta George is so fun because when he's
Speaker 6: coming out of Baylor, like when the Jazz drafted him,
Speaker 6: I was like, I don't know, you just you know
Speaker 6: you've got Dyalen Horton Tucker Collin Sex and Jordan Clarkson
Speaker 6: on this team, and you just drafted a guard out
Speaker 6: of Baylor who has a negative assistant turnover ratio and right,
Speaker 6: he's just and.
Speaker 8: They're like, yeah, we believe in him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And then and then like his first two I think
Speaker 6: it's the first three starts, he had like twenty one
Speaker 6: assists and two turnovers.
Speaker 4: I think your questions, yeah, yeah, you're giving them bulletin
Speaker 4: board material.
Speaker 6: It was funny because, you know, talking to him and
Speaker 6: during summer league, he'd seen some sort of like draft
Speaker 6: preview that was looking at his game and they had
Speaker 6: like strengths and weaknesses, and he took a screenshot of
Speaker 6: the weaknesses and made it his background on his phone.
Speaker 6: Not as like a oh, this is what the haters think,
Speaker 6: but he was like he was like, every day I
Speaker 6: will look at it and be like, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: get these things better.
Speaker 2: Wow. Something about elite athletes, you know, they've they've got
Speaker 2: something a little bit different than the rest of us.
Speaker 6: I mean they're a little bit they're like slight psychopaths,
Speaker 6: but in a fun way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, of course, yeah, like you were.
Speaker 4: I mean, the wording use is like true hoops junkie,
Speaker 4: like some people like it and some people are junk
Speaker 4: he'ss like, right, yeah, that language is like for people
Speaker 4: with a problem you need.
Speaker 2: To seek out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like yeah, yeah, he's got the real like the
Speaker 4: personality defect you're looking for exactly.
Speaker 2: He does have the defect.
Speaker 6: They say that he's got you know, he's got that
Speaker 6: dog in him, but it's actually the D stands for defect,
Speaker 6: and he does have that.
Speaker 5: He's got got that personality defect in him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got that defective.
Speaker 4: Personality, He's got that pathology. All right, let's uh, should
Speaker 4: we take a break? Yeah, come back and keep talking
Speaker 4: about the NBA?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? I legitimately dropped a what a sport
Speaker 2: in there?
Speaker 9: I know.
Speaker 4: Listener, Hey man, George, I'm trying to take my inspiration
Speaker 4: for as a broadcaster from Magic John Twitter Feed Brown.
Speaker 9: Yeah they do pall Yeah, oh wow, that kid can
Speaker 9: jump Canny. All right, congratulats and we're back back and yeah.
Speaker 4: So the Celtics are thirteen and four, the Timberwolves are
Speaker 4: twelve and four. I feel like the Timberwolves are here,
Speaker 4: like they're going to be right around that top spot
Speaker 4: for the season. Like I just it feels like Anthony
Speaker 4: Edwards has has the defect and the ability to just
Speaker 4: kind of will them to where he wants them to be,
Speaker 4: and it's kind of coming together. We'll see, But like
Speaker 4: I like, I'm not as confident that they're going to
Speaker 4: be there as I am like the Celtics, who feel
Speaker 4: like they can't help but be one of the best teams,
Speaker 4: if not the best team in the league. But you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know that they're going to necessarily be ahead
Speaker 4: of the Nuggets, but I think they're going to be
Speaker 4: in the hunt for the first seed in the West.
Speaker 4: I don't know about okay See. I think Okaysee's going
Speaker 4: to be in the top six. Orlando is interesting, though,
Speaker 4: Do we think Orlando is going to be in the
Speaker 4: top six?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I read some stat about how like teams that start
Speaker 1: off like thirteen, there's there's some record within the first
Speaker 1: twenty games that like typically if a team's there, they're
Speaker 1: they're going to be amongst like the top five going
Speaker 1: into the postseason. And like, I think they're two games
Speaker 1: away from achieving that.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what the statistics say, but I don't know,
Speaker 1: it is just wild to see them kind of just
Speaker 1: put it all together, because there's always been like yeah
Speaker 1: maybe I mean like when they put it all together,
Speaker 1: this could be fun to watch, and now they are
Speaker 1: and now I'm just I guess I don't. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen enough to know like, Okay, so this is where
Speaker 1: we're starting, this is like the new floor for them,
Speaker 1: or if this is you know, a flash in the pan,
Speaker 1: what do you think, Sarah?
Speaker 6: I was just looking at their schedule because I saw
Speaker 6: that they won the last seven and I was like, okay,
Speaker 6: but against who? Then I look at like that includes
Speaker 6: the Bust, the Nuggets, the Pacers, the Celtics.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they beat the Celtics. Like they they are on
Speaker 4: one right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah right. They're big. They're like big.
Speaker 4: Everywhere they're and they're strong, they're tough. I feel like
Speaker 4: they're that's just been a trend across the league. I
Speaker 4: guess these guys are big. Have you noticed that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Seeing them in person, they're pretty big. These NBA players,
Speaker 4: I've heard that.
Speaker 6: You know, the talent is always getting better and players
Speaker 6: are always getting taller.
Speaker 8: That's what I've heard.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a rumor. We haven't actually confirmed that.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I don't know if I believe in the Timberwolves.
Speaker 8: I think I probably have.
Speaker 6: Like a little bit of Rudy Gobert PTSD, and I
Speaker 6: think that, you know, they're probably like Mike Conley Hamstring
Speaker 6: away from not being good and interesting ATSD from that too.
Speaker 8: But here's the thing.
Speaker 6: I want them to be good because I love Mike Conley.
Speaker 6: I want he deserves good things, and I think that
Speaker 6: it would be great for things to pay off for
Speaker 6: Rudy Gobert. And I love Anthony Edwards. He does have
Speaker 6: that defect and he's very very fun. I just don't
Speaker 6: know if I believe in them. They seem like a
Speaker 6: really good regular season team, right Yeah, I don't know about.
Speaker 4: The playoffs necessarily like this while, but I feel like
Speaker 4: this will be their first run where they get some
Speaker 4: you know, like they've been a feisty first second round
Speaker 4: team right for it since Anthony Edwards has been good.
Speaker 4: But this feels like the year where they could go
Speaker 4: to the second round and like may make it interesting
Speaker 4: and start getting those like big, big minute reps. And
Speaker 4: I am talking, of course about the end season tournament.
Speaker 4: When I'm saying the second round like we're all talking
Speaker 4: about that, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think the Thunder are sneaky in a way that
Speaker 6: I also think maybe the I guess the Magic are sneaky.
Speaker 6: Like the Thunder so much fun to watch. I have
Speaker 6: had an absolute ball watching them, and so I'm ready
Speaker 6: to believe in them because they're young. A lot of
Speaker 6: their guys don't make any sense at all. Poku's got
Speaker 6: a weird mustache that I'm absolutely behind. Uh Chet Holmgren
Speaker 6: somehow is strong even though his body mass is like
Speaker 6: two pounds.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, yeah, it's just fun.
Speaker 6: And you know, Shay is maybe like the skinniest best
Speaker 6: player in the NBA, like the skinniest of the best, right,
Speaker 6: and so it also has like a very deep voice,
Speaker 6: and he does really weird things on the court that
Speaker 6: he makes look easy. So I just it's a fun,
Speaker 6: weird team, and I like weird.
Speaker 4: His game is really strange, Like you watch it and
Speaker 4: like his like some of the shots he gets, Like
Speaker 4: you you would watch him score three times in a
Speaker 4: row and you still wouldn't be like, well, there goes
Speaker 4: like one of the ten best players in the NBA.
Speaker 4: It's just like, yeah, it doesn't feel like it's not
Speaker 4: like smooth necessarily.
Speaker 6: No, it's not as aesthetically pleasing as like watching I
Speaker 6: don't know, like high level scores like Steph Cured, Devin Booker,
Speaker 6: you know, like guys like that. It's not aesthetically pleasing
Speaker 6: to watch Shay. But no, you finished watching a game,
Speaker 6: You're like, oh yeah, thirty six Okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah right, oh man, what a fun season? What a sport?
Speaker 2: At uh? Are we?
Speaker 5: Are we going to do it?
Speaker 2: To the Clippers? To the car? I mean, look, I
Speaker 2: love to look. I took that l on the chin.
Speaker 2: I just look, I I copped to it.
Speaker 1: The Lakers look absolute liatrocious against the Sixers. But you
Speaker 1: know what, that, somehow wasn't the biggest l of the
Speaker 1: l A teams that night, because it's the Clippers against
Speaker 1: a jokicch Liss, Murray, Liss Gordon list Nuggets went into
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter with a lead where they have a
Speaker 1: tremendous record and still managed to they'd all just.
Speaker 2: Kind of lent away. I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2: I mean, they had all and they had all.
Speaker 1: Their four, their big four, whateverever you want to describe
Speaker 1: the group of four gentlemen. But yeah, I look I
Speaker 1: set off mic maybe a little bit more colorfully how
Speaker 1: I felt about it.
Speaker 2: But now I'm just like, well, yeah, you know, that's
Speaker 2: that's tough to watch. That's tough to watch. Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 5: Do you think they're gonna pull it together?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, I don't think.
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't think anyone objectively thought before the
Speaker 6: season started that like this was the Clippers here right
Speaker 6: right right, But they they have been aging and falling apart,
Speaker 6: and they're just throwing money and whatever else they can
Speaker 6: at the problem and it's not going to fix it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of band aid fixes to things
Speaker 1: that need like a little bit more attention, and if the.
Speaker 8: Band aid is named James Harden, it's not good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Did you see that clip of him walking the dog
Speaker 1: and then he kicked the ball like and then like
Speaker 1: had to turn over and had to foul the guy
Speaker 1: because it was going So I was like, oh.
Speaker 2: No, this is oh yeah, I saw meat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a little bit that kind of like
Speaker 1: summed things up a bit, like in that moment they
Speaker 1: were like up nine at the time.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1: So it's hard to see like just the idea and
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to cast his versions. But like James
Speaker 1: Harden and Russell Westbrook, like in the year twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: for me, I'm like, I don't see that, Like, I
Speaker 1: don't see how any of that works on top of
Speaker 1: just what we've seen with PG and Kawhi.
Speaker 2: I just don't know. I just doesn't.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, those are all great names, but I
Speaker 1: don't know how they collectively make the Clippers better.
Speaker 2: And that's I think what's going on.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the PG and Kawai hadn't worked for years, Like,
Speaker 6: how does James Harden and Westbrook make that better?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, I don't know? Got it? You think they can?
Speaker 2: Think they?
Speaker 4: I do think they're going to win the title this year.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say they got it. Have you seen that
Speaker 4: guy put the ball in the hole?
Speaker 2: That high guy.
Speaker 5: Cow Hi?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah.
Speaker 4: I still think Kawhi is better than people probably remember realize. Hey,
Speaker 4: but yeah, it's like I think there are gonna be
Speaker 4: good moments where you have Kawhi PG and every once
Speaker 4: in a while Harden, like you know, Harden playing his
Speaker 4: way back into shape. They could be scary and make
Speaker 4: some runs, but I still think they're going to be
Speaker 4: in that play and range, which is probably not where
Speaker 4: you want.
Speaker 5: To go with a roster. That is the age that
Speaker 5: they are, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm done. I've officially maybe it's just me
Speaker 6: getting old, but I'm done with teams looking good on
Speaker 6: paper because like, right, paper is not part of basketball,
Speaker 6: Like it has to look good on the court. And
Speaker 6: so like, you know, you look at that roster on
Speaker 6: paper and Kawhi PG hard in Westbrook, like that's those
Speaker 6: are some good names right in practice though not good Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: On pay that's where you know, because paper goes in
Speaker 2: the trash, it does, you know. That's the thing about paper. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you hate to see it. You hate to see it,
Speaker 2: you know, especially as a Laker fan, you hate to
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 1: But I just do want to say one more thing
Speaker 1: because I was thinking of Pat Bev. I can't believe
Speaker 1: he was He was like shooting fifty or something against this,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, is maybe he just eventually plays with
Speaker 1: every team in the league. He can have those like
Speaker 1: comeback performances and just be the consistent monster that we
Speaker 1: all know.
Speaker 4: He becomes like the greatest player in the league in
Speaker 4: his mid forties.
Speaker 2: Every game is a grudge match here I go.
Speaker 8: Did you guys know that Russell Westbrook's wife is a therapist.
Speaker 2: A physical or a like or psychiatry or otherwise.
Speaker 6: Like a mental Like she's a she has a degree
Speaker 6: in like psychology. She's a like licensed therapist. She doesn't
Speaker 6: have time to like have a practice because like she's
Speaker 6: got a family and a husband who's in the NBA.
Speaker 6: But she like that's why she does like her show
Speaker 6: and stuff, because she's like a legitimate therapist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing. Yeah, which makes me think.
Speaker 6: That Russell Westbrook might be the most well adjusted NBA
Speaker 6: player and maybe we've just all been wrong about everything
Speaker 6: else around him.
Speaker 1: Right, right, even when he's going after fans, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like he's like even like then I I have to
Speaker 1: set boundaries.
Speaker 2: Ex Actually, something I've learned in therapis it's like.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm kind of with him most of the time.
Speaker 2: When he's like going after fans.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, like he's like this, think about how
Speaker 4: this feels for like my family. Man, Like the sucks,
Speaker 4: Like you're being very mean to me, right, That's that's
Speaker 4: absolutely true.
Speaker 1: But I guess like in a fan's mind, who's like
Speaker 1: being talked He's like, well, they got all that money,
Speaker 1: it's like what disappear their entire family to a place
Speaker 1: where they don't have to face the scrutiny that they
Speaker 1: are because this person plays in this city.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that either.
Speaker 6: Yeah, after twelve years of being people like screaming in
Speaker 6: your face like the worst obscenities that they can think of,
Speaker 6: you're just like the money makes.
Speaker 2: It feel good, right right, Yeah, that's about it.
Speaker 4: Wemby had another one of the games where it was
Speaker 4: like it you could tell he was a little bit
Speaker 4: locked in a little bit like wanting to wanting to
Speaker 4: see what he could do against Jokic. You know, he
Speaker 4: said that he modeled his game after Durant and his
Speaker 4: first best game came against Durant, And then obviously Jokic
Speaker 4: is the best big man in the league, maybe the
Speaker 4: best player in the league. When he played pretty well,
Speaker 4: it was there was just a series of weird things
Speaker 4: that he was doing that I had never seen a
Speaker 4: human body do before. Some lobs where he was like
Speaker 4: catching it and just like dunking it where when the
Speaker 4: rim was at his neck and stuff, but also like
Speaker 4: defending Jokic in a way that was valid.
Speaker 1: Pretty Yeah, you could tell Jokic like even like his
Speaker 1: postgame comments are like, yo, let this kid cook like
Speaker 1: he's changing the game, so like let's just watch it.
Speaker 2: And I could tell.
Speaker 1: And that came from a place of sincerity because watching
Speaker 1: him be like flummixed by his limbs and stuff in
Speaker 1: his length, I was like, oh, wow, Jokic is even
Speaker 1: like yo, usually I can get the ball over there,
Speaker 1: but now.
Speaker 2: There's like one no look.
Speaker 1: That was so wild to see, Like anytime Jokics come
Speaker 1: with like, you're like, okay, he's hitting that no look past.
Speaker 2: Somehow Wemby was so long.
Speaker 1: He was like the velocity was not intense enough for
Speaker 1: me to not accept this and I will really take
Speaker 1: this with my seven feet arms. But yeah, uh that
Speaker 1: was something something to watch for sure.
Speaker 6: That KG clip, I don't know what that was from,
Speaker 6: but Kevin Garnett, who's freaking out about Lebron James playing
Speaker 6: like this after this many years and then he was like,
Speaker 6: we've got a seven foot four Frenchman who's doing things
Speaker 6: that we've never like, Yes, we all agree with you.
Speaker 6: That's how we all feel. This kid is insane, right
Speaker 6: for sure.
Speaker 4: The I also really liked the clip of Jalen Pickett
Speaker 4: when he like meet Twembayama shakes hands with him and
Speaker 4: then is like just you can see his like face
Speaker 4: turned like he's just like wait, what is what is happening?
Speaker 4: And then he's like talking on the sideline.
Speaker 2: He's like.
Speaker 5: He does a double take.
Speaker 1: It was like one of those things where it just
Speaker 1: like it felt like you know and like like like
Speaker 1: when you meet some like macho dude and he tries
Speaker 1: to really grip your hand like you doing like a
Speaker 1: certain dominance like that, and and like afters like what
Speaker 1: was that about? Like he did that just because of
Speaker 1: the size of whomen He's like you don't have to
Speaker 1: have your handle big like that.
Speaker 8: He looked at him like what are we doing?
Speaker 4: He just keeps looking at his hands after they take it.
Speaker 2: We shook hands on a lot like his hand went
Speaker 2: to like huge. He's like his.
Speaker 6: Came his middle finger boat and should my hand hand
Speaker 6: way your boat.
Speaker 4: He shakes his hand like walks away like he's seen
Speaker 4: a ghost from the handshake. Is on the sideline talking
Speaker 4: to somebody being like I swear to his hand came
Speaker 4: up to my forearm. And then they're like showing in
Speaker 4: the game he's on the sideline being like it was
Speaker 4: he was tickling.
Speaker 1: That little part where like your your elbow is on
Speaker 1: the other side that like.
Speaker 5: The felt pretty good.
Speaker 2: He was tinkling that with shake. Yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 1: How like hand obsessed, Like with the way that clip
Speaker 1: is sort of structured. He sounds like Trump. He's like
Speaker 1: very big.
Speaker 5: Hands, big Christmas hands.
Speaker 2: Christmas ends.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna go see those Christmas hands because I
Speaker 6: had a choice to skip some games right around Christmas,
Speaker 6: to like be home and take some days off, and uh,
Speaker 6: the Jazz are playing the Spurs the day after Christmas,
Speaker 6: and I was like, no, it's fine, I'll fly to
Speaker 6: San Antonio on Christmas Day.
Speaker 8: It's fine.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, especially in this verse.
Speaker 1: I mean we caught summer league wemby, which was I
Speaker 1: think not just so unfair to him too, because I'm like,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: We and everyone be like.
Speaker 1: Oh, like a warm up.
Speaker 6: So many summer leagues, and I have never seen everyone
Speaker 6: in the Thomas and Mack Center stand up during warm ups.
Speaker 8: Like the entirety of it.
Speaker 6: It was the weirdest spectacle to watch the people watch him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it made it a little bit more unsettling.
Speaker 1: That's where I was like, ah, this is the the
Speaker 1: worst environment for anybody to try and perform it, just
Speaker 1: in general, and I'm part of it. But yeah, oh man, well,
Speaker 1: good luck to you out there on Boxing day.
Speaker 8: Yes, can't wait.
Speaker 4: LaMelo Ball has been having an amazing season and has
Speaker 4: suffered a significant right angle injury a right ankle, yeah,
Speaker 4: ankle injury, but avoided any fractures. So that's good because
Speaker 4: I would like to see him complete. Oh he's in
Speaker 4: a basketball please please. He's been playing really well. And
Speaker 4: then Sengoon has been incredible.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize he's six eleven now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he keeps growing. I think he's headed for Wemby territory.
Speaker 4: He's just can't keep growing. He went up two inches
Speaker 4: in the off season.
Speaker 2: Dude, imagine him.
Speaker 5: Okay, see, I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Why would I do that? I don't know how he's
Speaker 2: How old is he?
Speaker 5: Let's see, can't be older than thirty five.
Speaker 2: I don't know. He's twenty one.
Speaker 5: Twenty one is old for a two inch growth.
Speaker 8: To still be grown? Yeah, one is not. Oh he's
Speaker 8: a grown boy. Territory.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know, but yeah, he's been playing,
Speaker 4: he's been balling.
Speaker 5: Uh. The rockets are good.
Speaker 4: Inexplicably, they're another one that I feel like a lot
Speaker 4: of people didn't see coming. I mean obviously. When I
Speaker 4: say a lot of people didn't see coming, obviously, I'm
Speaker 4: not talking about everyone else. We called all this. Yeah,
Speaker 4: just go back and listen to them. Oh, actually I
Speaker 4: think those episodes were pulled down. Yeah, but we called.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Pentagon, the Department of Defense said we had
Speaker 1: to take them down beare.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because they did the information intelligence. Yeah, they
Speaker 4: didn't want other countries to know about us or something.
Speaker 4: It was like a security risk to hear how smart
Speaker 4: and right we.
Speaker 2: Are about everything.
Speaker 1: But then they forced us to go back into our
Speaker 1: liquid tanks where they put the headset on us, and
Speaker 1: we just start.
Speaker 8: Boosties were too mad?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, pre cock precog boosties.
Speaker 5: Sir. Have you heard how mad these boosties are? They're
Speaker 5: too mad?
Speaker 2: The Pentagon have gone mad.
Speaker 5: I just absolutely guessed the nuclear codes on air.
Speaker 1: They were talking about the episode of some TV show Lost,
Speaker 1: and he said the exact code.
Speaker 4: That's right, It's all Dylan bru I know, I know
Speaker 4: he's he's thinking that, So we might as well just
Speaker 4: come out and say this is all Dylan Brooks says.
Speaker 4: Nothing to do with the coaching change, nothing to do
Speaker 4: with the other veterans.
Speaker 5: It's all Dylan Brooks.
Speaker 4: And I mean, look how bad the Grizzlies have played
Speaker 4: thus far, Look how well his new team has played.
Speaker 4: I do like I'm joking, but there's like ten percent
Speaker 4: of me that's like, man, he's like mini Draymond.
Speaker 6: Though now he's not. Now okay, it's not the reason.
Speaker 6: I agree that he believes it's the reason, but it's not.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, So we have this new segment that is.
Speaker 2: Original. It is so it's called Jacked in a Fool. Okay,
Speaker 2: now my name is Jack.
Speaker 4: Now there's a phrase that I use all the time saying, man, he.
Speaker 5: Is acting a fool when talking about a player.
Speaker 4: So super producer Jabbari Uh just kind of put it,
Speaker 4: just went in the lab and came back with this
Speaker 4: thing called Jacked in a Fool, where we're gonna have
Speaker 4: a jacked in a full Moment of the Week again
Speaker 4: TM and alright, reserved and copyright.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little.
Speaker 4: Copyright thing behind this because this is one original uh
Speaker 4: and you're never gonna guess who the star of this
Speaker 4: week's Jack in a Full clip is.
Speaker 2: Jack in a Pool, Jack in a Pool.
Speaker 4: We could you could just rename the segment. So many good.
Speaker 2: M m x x I I.
Speaker 4: There's been some wonderful edits from people, uh you know,
Speaker 4: showing like there's there's one where he does this like
Speaker 4: six spin dribble, like brings it like at half court,
Speaker 4: gets up to the three point line, like shoots this
Speaker 4: very smooth looking three pointer and like everything is like beautiful.
Speaker 4: They're like ramping it to like slow mo on the
Speaker 4: spin dribble, slow mo on the three, and then it's
Speaker 4: like misses by a foot and half to the left
Speaker 4: and uh then he just like looks at his hands.
Speaker 5: But the the.
Speaker 4: Jack in a Full moment of the week has to
Speaker 4: be when he shook it was a kid.
Speaker 5: I think he shook kid.
Speaker 4: Yeah, put put Kate on skates, took a moment to
Speaker 4: admire his work, and then tried to do a little
Speaker 4: scoop shot, but like he did it in a weird
Speaker 4: way and immediately got it swatted by us.
Speaker 2: Are uh so shook it? And pulling it.
Speaker 4: There was something from the job, like a beautiful victory. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's like, oh see you later now, like he could,
Speaker 4: so he thought to just like take the shot, but
Speaker 4: then was like, wow, I'm so wide open. I should
Speaker 4: do something cool, like take a moment and and just come.
Speaker 1: At this guy who was immediately just gonna swap me
Speaker 1: away like a goose fly.
Speaker 2: But hey there, I.
Speaker 6: Mean, I watched that video just now, and I I
Speaker 6: don't understand what he was thinking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan's.
Speaker 5: Doing the long game.
Speaker 1: Boy, Yeah, Jack, what are you saying? This is uh
Speaker 1: Andy Kaufman. Yeah, he's done some Andy Kaufman stuff to us, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a pool party.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a long game. He's like, oh, y'all
Speaker 2: thought I was really come on now, turn it up.
Speaker 4: I've been on the Jordan pool bandwagon since he hit
Speaker 4: that game winner at Michigan his freshman year wearing the
Speaker 4: short shorts. I was like, this guy's got this guy's
Speaker 4: got something, and then.
Speaker 8: He certainly got something.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Turns out I was right as usual, he's got something.
Speaker 4: If you just keep it real vague, your predictions can
Speaker 4: be got something.
Speaker 5: This kid's got something. I didn't say what it was this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, kid's got something.
Speaker 8: That's the emphasis.
Speaker 2: That's something.
Speaker 8: Jordan Poole definitely has something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something, got something, He's got something something.
Speaker 4: All right, all right, well that's in jacting them copyright
Speaker 4: m C m M. I think if it's jacting jacting,
Speaker 4: that guy is acting the fool. Right, all right, let's
Speaker 4: take a quick break. We're gonna come back. We're gonna
Speaker 4: do the fastest segment and podcasting. We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: Let's go, and we're back. We're back there for the
Speaker 2: fortunate soul.
Speaker 1: You wandered into the fore fortunate, so train mark copyright.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Now let's time for the fast this question answer segment
Speaker 1: in sports podcasting history. It's the fourth quarter rapid fire
Speaker 1: round of questioning. You've done this before, you already get it.
Speaker 1: We are going to ask you a question. You immediately respond,
Speaker 1: don't take your time, just give us those quick, fast
Speaker 1: twitch responses.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 8: No, I know what you mean.
Speaker 6: I didn't do a good job of that last time.
Speaker 6: I just took an hour to answer every question.
Speaker 1: No, Well, guess what we've gotten a we've learned a
Speaker 1: lot since that appearance, and we've gotten a lot more
Speaker 1: aggressive with maintaining our titles.
Speaker 2: So please don't think we're rude, even though we will
Speaker 2: be very rude.
Speaker 4: Okay, here we go, fourth quarter of the biggest game
Speaker 4: of the year, the championship of the in season tournament.
Speaker 2: Here we go, right.
Speaker 5: Start the claw down down down, down, down, down down down.
Speaker 2: Were you doing Bill Mahrt? Yeah? That the dude. Dude,
Speaker 2: he's my favorite video.
Speaker 8: Taken quite a long time to get into the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, segment, good, good call, You're right even better? Uh okay,
Speaker 2: do you want to go first? Iron go first? All right?
Speaker 4: All right, Sarah Todd, I want to hear you ghost
Speaker 4: write a tweet for Magic Johnson on a subject of
Speaker 4: your choosing.
Speaker 6: You know, ham sandwich is always good when there's bread involved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nailed it, nailed it.
Speaker 4: We're trying to do We're trying to do Magic Johnson
Speaker 4: movie tweets before. And I think the one I came
Speaker 4: up with was The Godfather is a quality film. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I feel yeah, right, congratulations to uh al Pacino.
Speaker 2: It's just like, yeah, out of nowhere?
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Martin Scorsese, does he ever make a bad movie? I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 8: Fargo was an oscar worthy film.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, seven years after one Oscar, Right, Shakespeare in
Speaker 4: Love underrated even though you did win Best Picture.
Speaker 1: You're like, this is this is a weird fact. Okay,
Speaker 1: we got to keep it moving, Sarah. You've come squads
Speaker 1: in both regions, Okay, in both towns, the Bay Area
Speaker 1: and Salt Lake.
Speaker 2: Who has the better food?
Speaker 8: Bay Area?
Speaker 5: You're gonna do that to the Salt Lake.
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't think that anyone in Utah thinks
Speaker 6: that they have like the most culturally diverse food selection.
Speaker 2: Dirty sodas dirty.
Speaker 6: I mean, I still don't. I can't wrap my hand
Speaker 6: around the dirty soda thing because it just what just
Speaker 6: a regular soda works.
Speaker 2: For me, right dirt.
Speaker 6: But I mean the Bay Area is crazy. You can
Speaker 6: literally have any type of food that you want at
Speaker 6: four am.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a good. That's that's not bad. What
Speaker 2: do you miss the most? What's your four am thing?
Speaker 2: What's that thing? You're like, oh man in the bay
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 8: Uh oh man, there's so many things to hurry up.
Speaker 2: Please.
Speaker 6: There's a place in San Francisco called the Garlic Rose.
Speaker 6: I think it's called the Stinking Rose, Sinking Rope.
Speaker 8: Maybe that's it.
Speaker 1: There's a stinking rose in that's like an all garlic restaurant,
Speaker 1: Yes exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 8: And what more could you ask for?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one thing that's just like garlic, that's step
Speaker 1: steeped in oil that you just like smear on the bread.
Speaker 6: May Maria also like, there's a bunch of restaurants that
Speaker 6: I would go to, like late at night or at
Speaker 6: any point during the day. Even I walk into them
Speaker 6: just because I knew where they were. I have no
Speaker 6: idea what the names of those places are, right. I
Speaker 6: know that there's a place like right close to a
Speaker 6: bank downtown that is an Indian place that's open till
Speaker 6: four am.
Speaker 8: And it's incredible.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, god love it. What a sport, What a sport.
Speaker 4: I'm just finding out that Mark Cuban is selling the MAVs.
Speaker 8: Oh you know what I missed the most.
Speaker 6: There is a taco truck near the corner of High
Speaker 6: and International in Oakland. It's across it's right next to
Speaker 6: a Valero and a Burger King, So it's like right there.
Speaker 6: If anybody's in the area, they know the one and
Speaker 6: it is the absolute best taco in the world.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: Jack you're just like I'm reading right now, Mark Cuban
Speaker 1: is selling, so we just completely steamroo.
Speaker 5: Yeah cool, all right.
Speaker 4: Who's the most underappreciated of the truly all time greats,
Speaker 4: someone who deserves to be mentioned but is often left
Speaker 4: out of the all time debates of the all time
Speaker 4: Dennis Rodman. Dennis Rodman love that answer. I mean, what
Speaker 4: is it about Dennis Robin?
Speaker 6: There has never been a single player that I can
Speaker 6: remember watching.
Speaker 8: That would put his actual life on the line for
Speaker 8: a rebound.
Speaker 6: Like you feel like if the choice is like do
Speaker 6: I die or do I get this rebound that leads
Speaker 6: to a bucket, I'll take.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taking the board every time. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: What do you think is just like I do you
Speaker 1: think everyone was just kind of distracted by the stuff
Speaker 1: off the court and just like his you know, flashy
Speaker 1: hair and stuff like that, that kind of changes that
Speaker 1: Or do you think it's just because the art of
Speaker 1: rebounding is just generally not as respected as it could be.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think the defense is never as respected
Speaker 6: as offense, Like scoring is always going to be flashier,
Speaker 6: and like you know, the score is what's going to
Speaker 6: stick in people's mind and the people who add to that.
Speaker 6: I mean, and it's hard to be on a team
Speaker 6: with guys like Isaiah or Michael Jordan and like in
Speaker 6: the era that he was on those teams correct and
Speaker 6: be the guy that's remembered, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like it was like I had to die
Speaker 1: my head lime Green, Okay for.
Speaker 2: You to even figure out I was doing something out here.
Speaker 5: He was.
Speaker 6: I'm probably him and ronern tests those because I mean,
Speaker 6: I like defense, so I'm always gonna kick those guys.
Speaker 8: But you guys don't. I mean, the kids, they don't
Speaker 8: remember how good.
Speaker 2: These They never seen a guy stretched out like it
Speaker 2: was quarter to three trying to get a ball on
Speaker 2: the sidelines. Oh is it me?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: Well sorry, see, Sarah, this is where you got to
Speaker 2: really help us out.
Speaker 1: You know, like sometimes we get so nostalgic because I
Speaker 1: remember side note. I did a book report on bad
Speaker 1: as I want to be when the Dennis came out
Speaker 1: in school and my teacher I got in trouble because
Speaker 1: they're like, what are you You just said it was
Speaker 1: a biography of a basketball player, Like you're talking about
Speaker 1: drug uses stuff.
Speaker 2: That's what's in the book, that's his story.
Speaker 3: Miss.
Speaker 8: What do you want me to.
Speaker 2: Say, den't I that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: How was his pros?
Speaker 1: I mean I think I was in fifth grade when
Speaker 1: it came out, so masterful, master.
Speaker 8: It was ready, it was ripe for reading.
Speaker 1: I thought I was reading Lord Byron. To be honest, Sarah,
Speaker 1: here's a question. You can take two players from all
Speaker 1: of history to create your Mad Busti's Edition NBA JAM team.
Speaker 1: Which two players are you putting together for your special
Speaker 1: edition team?
Speaker 8: Larry Bird and Dennis Rodbin.
Speaker 5: Oh, Larry Bird and Dennis Rodman.
Speaker 2: I've heard of Dennis Rodman. Who's Larry Bird's good? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Is he like the greatest? Body?
Speaker 4: Checking him and Charles Barkley would be incredible, like just
Speaker 4: toss you down court.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They would create new animations for like your character, like
Speaker 1: actually go into the stands or something.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: What I what I like is that my team is.
Speaker 6: Like in the middle, there's like something happens, a foul,
Speaker 6: someone misses a shot or something, and then my team
Speaker 6: the animation is just them fighting.
Speaker 8: They're just fighting whoever's next to them.
Speaker 2: Right right right.
Speaker 4: He's the only player in NBA GM history that has
Speaker 4: a Mortal Kombat fatality.
Speaker 8: Listen, the other team can't win if you knock him out.
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 4: All right, finally we're trying something new. You've been on before.
Speaker 4: You've told us, uh, you've given your answer for Jack
Speaker 4: or Miles. Wow, But the real question here is bacon
Speaker 4: or beer can?
Speaker 5: Miles? Do you want to do the honor?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sorry, bacon or beer can big con, big con bacon.
Speaker 2: That's correct, I got it.
Speaker 1: That's great, man way down, Sarah killing it today. What
Speaker 1: a game, what a sport, I'm telling you, And that
Speaker 1: has been the fourth quarter round of rapid fire questioning.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Sarah Todd for joining us on.
Speaker 2: Miles and Jack got mad boosties. Where the job?
Speaker 8: I think you guys talked more than I did during that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I did a really good job, but.
Speaker 4: I was just over here wistfully remembering all of my
Speaker 4: favorite memories from when Mark Cuban was the owner of
Speaker 4: the map.
Speaker 2: Precks really happened? Yeah, he just sold it to the
Speaker 2: sold US. Yea to Miriam Addison. Who's that I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know who.
Speaker 1: Adison Sheldon is the casino magnet.
Speaker 2: From Presidency. Anyway, Yo, here we.
Speaker 1: Go, Sarah, Where can people find you and follow you
Speaker 1: and read you and all that kind of good stuff
Speaker 1: listen to you.
Speaker 6: You can read all my stuff at Deseret dot com.
Speaker 8: That's d E S E R E T.
Speaker 6: You can follow me at NBA Sarah on everything everywhere,
Speaker 6: and you can listen to my podcast Unsalvageable. We just
Speaker 6: started a Patreon. We've got interviews with players on the
Speaker 6: Utah Jazz. We've got good at mailback episodes, so there's
Speaker 6: lots of cool stuff that you don't get anywhere else
Speaker 6: if you're into the Utah Jazz.
Speaker 5: Bang bang All right.
Speaker 2: Where did they find us? Oh? That's right.
Speaker 1: You can follow the hashtag on Twitter at or not
Speaker 1: at hashtag Mad Boosties. You can follow me at Miles
Speaker 1: of Gray.
Speaker 2: I'm at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
Speaker 1: And this has been another edition of Miles and Jack
Speaker 1: Got Mad Boosties.
Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.
Speaker 4: Bye you, Sarah, Bye
Speaker 9: S