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Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Tuesday, February sixth, twenty twenty four. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast where we are water logged.

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Speaker 1: It's me and your man named g Marcus Grant, joined

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Speaker 1: by Michael F. Florio. No Lakwan Jones. Today he is

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Speaker 1: believe it or not having to do his job. Lakwant

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Speaker 1: I know, right. Lakwan is a researcher for NFL Media

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Speaker 1: and it's been fortunate that for most of this offseason

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Speaker 1: his schedule has worked out where he's been able to

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Speaker 1: be on our pod when we record. But this week

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Speaker 1: they have him actually working in the middle of the day.

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Speaker 1: Weird doing his research job with the Super Bowl coming

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Speaker 1: up in just a few days. I mentioned at the

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Speaker 1: top it is waterlogged. I know for the rest of

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Speaker 1: the country. I know, like hearing us complain about our

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Speaker 1: la there is probably like getting sort of eye rolls.

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Speaker 1: But we have had historic amounts of rain where you are.

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Speaker 1: Is everything okay right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Everything is good. We've lost power before when there's

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Speaker 2: perfect weather out, so I was like, we are definitely

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Speaker 2: losing power this storm, and luckily everything has held up great.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if this is happening to you, Marcus.

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Speaker 2: They must be talking about this La rain across the country,

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Speaker 2: because I've had family members from yeah, all different parts

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Speaker 2: I hear it's really bad weather by you, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: it's rain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, I've gotten I got texts from

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Speaker 1: a buddy in DC.

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Speaker 2: I got text from a buddy.

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Speaker 1: In the Dallas area asking me about it, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is. It is certainly more rain than we are

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Speaker 1: about an inch in the last twenty four hours, which

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Speaker 1: I can't compare to other places, but I know that

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles is not built for that. And now we

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Speaker 1: have the added danger of mud slides, houses falling downhills

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Speaker 1: if you are in LA stay safe, stay dry for

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Speaker 1: the rest of you. Yeah, you know, we get to

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Speaker 1: experience what winter is like out here in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: And I will say this after a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: The city is sort of like a Billie Eilish song.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of hip but also sort of depressing. That's

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Speaker 1: kind of the way I look at it, right Anyway,

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Speaker 1: enough of that, we are a few days away still

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Speaker 1: from the Super Bowl, and try to figure out what

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Speaker 1: we were going to talk about for today's show, because

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Speaker 1: it's not like we can really stretch out Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: preview over to show. I mean, I guess we could,

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Speaker 1: but it would get really granular. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: wants that. So we actually are in the midst of

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Speaker 1: doing a slow mock draft. We are in the middle

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Speaker 1: of round three. Figure this would be a good time

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Speaker 1: start with a few headlines because we've had a couple

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Speaker 1: of coaching hires since we last spoke to you, one

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Speaker 1: in Washington, where they already hired Dan Quinn as their

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Speaker 1: head coach. In fact, according to my Twitter timeline, I

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Speaker 1: believe the press conference is happening right now or recent

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Speaker 1: also hired Cliff Kingsbury as their offensive coordinator. Dude hire

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Speaker 1: Joe Witt Junior as the defensive coordinator to go along

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Speaker 1: with that. But we are more interested in the offensive side, obviously,

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Speaker 1: So when you look at this higher I mean Cliff

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Speaker 1: did not have a great run as the head coach

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Speaker 1: then resurfaced at USC as the quarterbacks coach working with

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Speaker 2: It worked.

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Speaker 1: So when you look at this higher though in DC,

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Speaker 1: with Cliff Kingsbury coming, there is his job to unlock

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Speaker 1: Sam Howell. Or because the Commanders have the number two

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I am of the mindset that Sam how you

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Speaker 2: had a fun year. You were good for fantasy, real

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Speaker 2: Maybe he could be like have like a Garner Minshew

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Speaker 2: sitting there with the number two pick, do your homework.

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Speaker 2: Find out if you like Drake May, if you like

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Speaker 2: So I don't think his offense is as good as

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Speaker 2: I think it's probably somewhere in the middle. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think the new OC, the new head coach, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm expecting it to be a whole reboot there.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Sam Howe, we appreciate what you did

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Speaker 1: for us this past year, but you're probably gonna go

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Speaker 1: of this they talked about tanking out over the weekend, like,

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Speaker 1: hey man, you might be coming to take my job,

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Speaker 1: Like that's going to be weird. You talk about running

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Speaker 1: the football, though, right, And Drake May did quite a

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Speaker 1: very interested to see if they sort of try to

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Speaker 1: going back and looking at it. His first year there,

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Speaker 1: they ranked sixteenth in scoring offense overall, thirteenth, eleventh, twenty first.

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Speaker 1: I'm I don't know what to think about it. I

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Speaker 1: about trying to unlock Terry McLaurin, because right now he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. You know, I can never quit Terry

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Speaker 2: mclaura And the only concern I have now though, is

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Speaker 2: been the case with every commander's quarterback since Terry has

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Speaker 2: So it adds some unknown there. And I've seen in

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the right place for him to

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Speaker 2: outlive those expectations. But there's a lot of unknown there

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Speaker 2: with the new play caller, a new quarterback, all of that,

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Speaker 2: to run the ball. Rookie quarterback probably going to try

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing dan Quinn the defensive mind, even though his

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know they did sort of run some

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Speaker 1: don't know that they have the receivers really to do that.

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Speaker 1: They've got McLaurin. I know, we like Jahan Dotson, you know,

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Speaker 1: But we just want to figure this out as we

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Speaker 1: Is that done? No, it's over with Okay.

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Speaker 2: I think Brian Robinson's the lead guy. And even more

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Speaker 1: In Las Vegas, it looked for a moment like Cliff

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Speaker 2: I think there's a good chance. And I will say

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Speaker 2: I was kind of saying, like, hey, this guy has

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Speaker 2: experienced with mobile quarterbacks coaching Kyler Murray. To me, both

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think they are going to be big

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Speaker 2: There's other teams that could as well, but I think

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Speaker 2: thing about Lugetzi, and obviously this is heavily justin field

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Speaker 2: skewed and his two years as an OC they finished

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Speaker 2: top two in rushing attempts and rushing yards both years. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: To my roster. I completely I'm looking at his stats

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Speaker 2: running backs don't matter. The Steelers, they let Leveon Bell

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Speaker 1: Well, and it sort of cuts both ways, right because

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Speaker 1: I would love for Todd Gurley to get like, you know,

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady, if he came back, would you care?

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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So it's February, the Super

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Speaker 1: So that is where Matt o'cotta went. I think I'm

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Speaker 2: we talk about it a lot when there's a group

435
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 2: like this, Like I like Ceedee, Lamb and Tyreek Hill

436
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: the most out of out of this group. But these names.

437
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 2: If you if you wanted to tell me that Amanra

438
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 2: Saint Brown is better or something like that, You're not

439
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 2: going to get an argument out of me.

440
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would say this. Of that group,

441
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: I think I'm raw and I you know, you know

442
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: how I feel about him. I still think he is

443
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: probably the last in that group. I you know, I

444
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: think Lamb, Jefferson, Hill, Chase you could probably put in

445
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: nearly any order, and I'm okay with it. I'm on

446
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: Rack coming in in the last part of that group.

447
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 1: I think I'm fine with.

448
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 2: At that point.

449
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: After Brown goes at six, Besjon Robinson at seven, as

450
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: is our palell and producer Hythan Kalani makes that move,

451
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: does he go does he go this high? If there

452
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: isn't a head coaching change, in Atlanta.

453
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: No, not not even a chance. I would say, I think, uh,

454
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 2: the fact that not only there's a change in head coach,

455
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 2: but Zach Robinson connected to the Sean McVay coaching tree,

456
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 2: a lot of success with running backs there, and particularly

457
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: a lot of success with the giving the large majority

458
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: of work to the lead runners. So we know how

459
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: good Bjeon Robinson is. He just needs more opportunity and

460
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: he could be He's a dual threat, he could catch

461
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: the ball, all of that. So yeah, I think I

462
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: would have considered a different running back over Bjon first.

463
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 2: But yeah, Bjon could go as high as RB two,

464
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: and I don't think it's the wrong answer.

465
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: Well, I suspect I know which running back that is.

466
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: I didn't take him.

467
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: I went AJ Brown at number eight.

468
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: I would say this, sitting at eight was not a

469
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: fun spot to be in because you know, you've got

470
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: some okay, you got some good running backs, you got

471
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: some pretty good wide receivers, and it just felt like

472
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 1: there was nobody that I just absolutely loved it at eight.

473
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: But Aj Brown felt like a good spot right there.

474
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore coming in as the offensive coordinator there in Philadelphia,

475
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: I expect they're going to be very creative with what

476
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: they're doing throwing the football, that maybe aj Brown could

477
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: sort of do a little bit of what Seed Lamb

478
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: did in the second half of the season. So I

479
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: took him at the one dot eighth the one nine.

480
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: I assume Breese Hall is the running back that you

481
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: were talking about as the number two guy there.

482
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he finishes the RB two this past season,

483
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 2: and I know a lot of that. You could say

484
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 2: Jon like the coach and all of that, but Breese

485
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: Hall did it in a year where in the first

486
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: month or so of the season he was getting limited touches.

487
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: He didn't have his usual burst. We did really see

488
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 2: that until like week six seven. He had that huge

489
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 2: game against the Bills, but that was like three touches,

490
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: and then after that he didn't look himself again for

491
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: another month or so. And then he did it also

492
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: without his quarterback there too, And that naturally just means

493
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 2: defenses are putting a lot more attention on on Breze

494
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 2: Hall in the running game when playing the Jets. So yeah,

495
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: I think if anyone look, I mean Jon Ken as well,

496
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: but if anyone can give Sake CMC some competition for

497
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: that RB one spot. I think it is a healthy

498
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 2: year removed from surgery.

499
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: Breese Hall, I think so. I mean the way he

500
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: finished the season, the way he played with that that

501
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: quarterback situation there with the Jets and still put up

502
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: numbers and hopefully they get a healthy Aaron Rodgers for

503
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: the majority of the season. So I think there's a

504
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: lot of reason to be excited about Breese Hall. I know,

505
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: like late in the year, I think I was, you know,

506
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: I don't know in my feelings and overreacting and saying, oh,

507
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey's gonna be the only first round running back.

508
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: But then when I stopped and took a breath and

509
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: stepped away and looked at it, I was like, no,

510
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: there's there's a couple, and Breese Hall is for sure

511
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: one of them now at number ten. And this one

512
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: was interesting to me. Bob Harris, the very esteemed Bob Harris,

513
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: who we all love. Here he goes Pookin Akua at ten,

514
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: and it surprised me, not because you know, Puka's not

515
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: good one. Puka going ahead of Cooper cup a little

516
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: bit of a surprise. And I seem to be very skeptical,

517
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: and I know this doesn't always work in fantasy drafting,

518
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: but I tend to be like, Okay, that was really great.

519
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: Can you do it again?

520
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: And I don't know that Puka does exactly the same

521
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: thing again next year, especially if he has a healthy

522
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup all season long.

523
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: That surprised me.

524
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: Like, I don't think it's a terrible pick, it's just

525
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: I didn't expect it this early. I don't know how

526
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: you feel about it.

527
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: I think that Puka late first early second round pick

528
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: is where he's going to go next season. But and

529
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: I you know, I loved Puka Nakua coming into this

530
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 2: year and all of that. But yeah, to your point,

531
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: I would not be surprised if he does not, Like

532
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: he could have a very good season next year and

533
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: fall short of what he did this past year. I mean,

534
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: over a hunch, catches almost fifteen hundred yards. Like if

535
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: next year that becomes eighty five and twelve hundred or

536
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: eleven fifty something like that, that's still a great season.

537
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: But is it worth a top ten pick? Probably not,

538
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: so I kind of see both sides of this. I'm

539
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: pretty happy that we get a lot of time before

540
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: drafts actually start counting because I have to kind of

541
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: fully decide how I feel about Pooka. But late first,

542
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: early second is where I expected him to go. I

543
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 2: will say this was my first mock for next year,

544
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: and obviously a lot is going to change in the

545
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: next couple of months, but as of today, being in

546
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: the first six picks seems a lot better than being

547
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: in the second half of dress.

548
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: Yes, I would say that for me, Like I said,

549
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: being at eight was like, I don't like this. I

550
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: don't like what, you know, the options I have to

551
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: choose from. At eight, I think you get to six

552
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: and you're feeling really great. After that, you got a

553
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: lot of hard choices.

554
00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: So Puka goes at ten.

555
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: Uh Lakwan takes Jamiir Gibbs at one dot eleven. He

556
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: actually left us some notes, so he was, you know,

557
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: he couldn't be here in person, but he was certainly

558
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: here in spirit. We get back around his second pick

559
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: and we can kind of dive into his thoughts a

560
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: little bit. So he goes one eleven. Garrett Wilson at

561
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: the one dot twelve. Have ever have you ever seen

562
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: in your lifetime two jets off the board in the

563
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: first round of a fantasy draft?

564
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: Two Jets and almost two lines like it it actually

565
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 2: no two lions. Yeah, yes, we're living in the upside

566
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: down right now.

567
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we got we got two Lions, nearly three lions,

568
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: h two Jets in the first round. Like I don't,

569
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with myself. Garrett Wilson,

570
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: though not a surprise. Joel Smith takes him there and

571
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: then backs it up with Travis Etn, which is another

572
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: one I liked Etn.

573
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: I think what he did this past year certainly.

574
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: Warrants him moving up to the top of the second round,

575
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: but I would not have anticipated him coming off the

576
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: board ahead of Jonathan Taylor Saquon Barkley. I mean, I

577
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: just it's I don't think it's a bad pick. It's

578
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: just as a surprising pick for me. Can he do

579
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: it again in a Jacksonville offense that at times didn't

580
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: seem to have some consistency.

581
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's fair to question, and

582
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: like you, I think Etn deserves to go in the

583
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: second round. I mean ran for a thousand yards this

584
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: year for a second straight season, but was more used

585
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: as a pass catcher, which is what we really wanted

586
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 2: to see and even got the goal on work as

587
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: the year went on, But there was just some other

588
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: running backs that were still there, like like Jonathan Taylor,

589
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: like you said, who I would have taken over Travis

590
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: Etn and the Garrett Wilson pick. Not Look Joel, Joel

591
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: was a very smart he's a researchers, He's really smart.

592
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: So this easily could very much still work out. But

593
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: I feel the same way kind of about Wilson as

594
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: as Pooka and Etn, Like we know the talent is there,

595
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: but I I think there's a lot of question marks

596
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: as well, because Aaron Rodgers is gonna be forty years

597
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: old coming off of an achilles injury, after coming off

598
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: of an already down season the year priors. So I

599
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: really like Garrett Wilson, but I think there's just some

600
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: risk there tied in, which again would make me much

601
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: rather have one of those receivers in the first half

602
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: of the draft. In the second.

603
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Eatn goes top of the second round, then

604
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: Lakwan comes back and he takes Sam Laporta. So I'm

605
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: just gonna read what he wrote. Double Tapped in Detroit,

606
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: Jamier Gibbs at the one to eleven back into the

607
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: first round with Ben Johnson returning feels like a steal.

608
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: He's a top five running back next season PPR upside,

609
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: and since Week seven, which is when David Montgomery got hurt,

610
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: he was fourth in routes, ran sixth in targets among

611
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: running backs. Then Sam Laporta at the two dot two,

612
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: the new tight end one in dynasty and redrafts, he says,

613
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: move over Travis Kelsey. Elite talent with a huge red

614
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: zone presence, top five in red zone target most red

615
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: zone receiving touchdowns among tight ends, in touchdowns being key

616
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: because yeah, man, touchdowns are the whole name of the game. There,

617
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: so wow, three Lions off the board in the top

618
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: fourteen picks. Never would have imagined it.

619
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: It's hard to knock given how their offense performed this

620
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: past season. I love Sam Laporta. I think he's the

621
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: tight end one. I will say I was a little

622
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: surprised the Jamior Gibbs pick. I love late round first.

623
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: I agree top five fantasy running back. I think he

624
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: went properly where he should go late first because of

625
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: all the receivers that we could take over him. I

626
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: was a little surprised to see like Laporta over Jonathan

627
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: Taylor and some of those wide receivers. But I do

628
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: think he is the tight end one. I just don't

629
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna be pulling a tight end to the

630
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: early second round this year.

631
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to wait on tight end.

632
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: I think, you know, and we'll see how this draft

633
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: shakes out. But I think as we get a little further,

634
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Travis Kelsey's already off the board, We'll get

635
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: to that picking a little bit. But there are still

636
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: some really good tight ends out there. Andrews is still there,

637
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: Kittle is still there. We'll see what happens with Darren Waller,

638
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard, and I think I think TJ. Hawkins is

639
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: going to fall just because that knee injury happens so

640
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: late in the season. I don't expect him to be

641
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: ready for the start of the year. But there are

642
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: some really intriguing tight ends that I think you can

643
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: wait until round four or five and still feel okay

644
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: with maybe getting a guy there. Gonna step away for

645
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: a quick break. Stick around for more of the NFL

646
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Podcast. Bob Harris with the third pick in

647
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: the second round, comes back and he takes Jonathan Taylor

648
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: at the two dot three. What do you think about

649
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: Taylor and a healthy Anthony Richardson in Indianapolis this year?

650
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: I think he can be a top three, easily top

651
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: five fantasy running back because we already know how good

652
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor is, we know how good Anthony Richardson is

653
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: as a pure runner. Them to run the option good luck,

654
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: like defenses are really going to have to choose. Do

655
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: I want to which one? I have to try to

656
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: sell out early to stop? So I think Jonathan Taylor,

657
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: I would say, you can make an argument he brings

658
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: more upside with Anthony Richardson than at any point in

659
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: his career.

660
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: I think he absolutely does. I think the idea of

661
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: them running our pos with with Jonathan Taylor back there.

662
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: If I'm a defense, that is scary to me, and

663
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: he had moments, and I think it's just about him

664
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: staying healthy, getting those opportunities and kind of just building

665
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: that offense together. You know, I think the potential is there.

666
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: So right now, he is the running back five off

667
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: the board in our draft. Nicocollins at the two dot four.

668
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: I went Stepan Diggs at two dot five. And again

669
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: this just goes back to being in that eighth spot.

670
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: Like I just I've made two picks. I don't hate them,

671
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: but they also weren't just immediate like jump out and

672
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: grab me sorts of picks. So I went Stepan Diggs.

673
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: There followed Upam Sakes, Josh Allen. So Bill's back to

674
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: back off the board. I'm gonna ask you, as the

675
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: Bills fan here, is it all good in Buffalo? Or

676
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: are Josh and Stefan gonna get along this offseason? Are

677
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: we gonna be okay next year?

678
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: I continue to be of the mindset I think so

679
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: Diggs contract is insanely hard to move, and people keep

680
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: being like, well there's a post June first clause where

681
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: they could move on from him then, and I'm like, okay,

682
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: you mean after every big name wide receiver has been

683
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: signed or drafted and the Bills don't have money to

684
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 2: give them. He tell ju first, Yeah, They're not gonna

685
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 2: sell Stefan Diggs just to get rid of him. I

686
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: think Diggs is one of those guys Marcus. He likes

687
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: saying words without saying anything, and it comes off like

688
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: edgy and stuff like that. But I think if you

689
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: gave him some truth serum even he would be like

690
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: he said it last year, was like I plan on

691
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: retiring here, Like I think this is just one of

692
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: those things that he had. He stirs the pot a

693
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: little bit and the media loves to run with. Yeah,

694
00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: I mean I think so.

695
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: I look, he is he is sort of the quintessential

696
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver and that he's going to say things that

697
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: we're going to stir up some controversy.

698
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: And maybe he means then maybe he doesn't.

699
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: In the end, I still believe he and Josh Allen

700
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: are They sort of need each other. They work well together,

701
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: and I don't see that changing at all. So after

702
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: Alan Chris o'lave goes followed by Kyon Williams, Now you

703
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: took Kyon Williams at the two eight.

704
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: Any concerns that Sean.

705
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: McVeigh and the Rams bring in somebody else to kind

706
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: of split opportunities with.

707
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: Him, Yes, uh, And that's why I'm happy this is

708
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: just a mock in February. But if they don't, like

709
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: if they go into next year and say Kyen Williams

710
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: is going to be our guy, and yeah, maybe they

711
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: add a running back like late in the draft, or

712
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: something like that. But if it is not someone that

713
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: is going to take significant touches away, then I think

714
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: Kien Williams at two eight would be a steal. Like

715
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: I would see. I could see him going in the

716
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: late first round around where like Gibbs win and that

717
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 2: around the same group as like Tailor, because the guy

718
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: last year was the RB two on a per game basis,

719
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 2: and McVeigh has a history of not only getting the

720
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 2: most out of his running backs when he likes them,

721
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 2: but force feeding them the ball as well. So just

722
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: hope that Kyen doesn't pull a cam Akers and eat

723
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: mcveigh's breakfast or whatever it was that Acres did to

724
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: get in the doghouse. And if he is the guy

725
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: next year, I think he could be a first round pick.

726
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think we've seen that McVeigh would

727
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: like to use. If he finds a guy that he loves,

728
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: he will find he will use him consistently. You know,

729
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: we see in the past where maybe he wasn't in

730
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: love with a guy. Cam Akers, I think maybe the

731
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: one that comes to mind immediately, and we saw some

732
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: Darryl Henderson, we saw other guys kind of working in there,

733
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: but Kyron Williams came in and made Acres expendable. They

734
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: sent him away because they didn't need him anymore because

735
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: of Kyron Williams. So hopefully that means they are okay

736
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: with him being the lead guy there and that maybe

737
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't really bring in any help if

738
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: it's anybody, it's just sort of like a veteran presence

739
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: just to kind of be in insurance there for Williams.

740
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: But that's one I think his ADP is going to

741
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: fluctuate depending on what the Rams do. At number nine

742
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: in the second round, Migan Martinez, who's one of our

743
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: producers here. She takes Travis Kelcey, so Kelsey the second

744
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: tight end off the board but still going in the

745
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: second round. Michelle Manjuk, one of our researchers, taking Saquon

746
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: Barkley at the two dot ten, followed by Devon ah Chan.

747
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 1: So the h Chan thing is interesting simply because obviously

748
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: he was amazing when he was healthy. They still have

749
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: Raheem Moster there, and I'm not going to sit here

750
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: and tell you that Raheem Moster is going to have

751
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: another twenty one touchdown season that he's gonna be this

752
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: big play guy like he was this year, but floorial

753
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: he is still upright and breathing and healthy, and playing

754
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: that alone would seem to cut into what the potential

755
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: is for devon ah Chan next year.

756
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that all of a sudden.

757
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: Mike Daniel's just going to toss where he mosted to

758
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: the curb and give all the work to a Chan

759
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: that feels a little bit high to me right now.

760
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: I get it, and I don't hate the pick though

761
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: at all. It is it's certainly more risky than some

762
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: of the other picks in this area. Because I agree

763
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: with you, I don't think Mostar is going to fully

764
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: go away. But I wouldn't be surprised if at his

765
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: advanced age, because he's like thirty, gonna be thirty three

766
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: next year, I believe thirty two, thirty two, Okay, I

767
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if we see it be more of

768
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty split, or even if HN. What

769
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 2: I really would hope for and what you're hoping for

770
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: if you take him in the second round, is that

771
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: Hn is the heavier side of a platoon like sixty forty.

772
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 2: But even if it's limited touches, like fifteen touches a game.

773
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: He is so explosive that he can be an RB

774
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: a top ten fantasy running back because of the big

775
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: plays that we're gonna get out of him, the fact

776
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: that he is such a good pass catcher as well.

777
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: So I'm really really excited for Devon h And I

778
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: think I'm going he's gonna be one of those players

779
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna rank as an RB one and I

780
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: think should go in round two. But they'll always be

781
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: a little bit of hesitancy there if he goes in

782
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: round three, though, sign me up. I'm willing to roll

783
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: those dice there. Round three. I think I feel a

784
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: little better.

785
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: And look, I guess this is late round two, right,

786
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: so it's not as though it's not like it's a

787
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: big stretch to round three. I just I wonder about

788
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: his efficiency. This is the guy who averaged nearly eight

789
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: yards per carry last year. That's an insane number, and

790
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: you know that feels really hard to duplicate, especially if

791
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: he gets more touches. I think that that efficiency is

792
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: going to be really hard to come by. But we

793
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 1: know the upside is there. We know the explosiveness is there.

794
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: I just you know, I just wonder what the roles

795
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: are going to be for Raheem Mostered. Yeah, I was

796
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: gonna say Jeff Wilson, but not really. Most last pick

797
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: in the second round, matt Ocotta finishes it out with

798
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: Devonte Adams. We talked about what his future could be

799
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: if indeed, you know, Lugetzi is the offensive coordinator and

800
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: Justin Fields is the quarterback. Davonte is still a great receiver, right.

801
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: The offense around him left some things to be desired,

802
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: and I know it was frustrating, but he's still really good, right.

803
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean we can still think of him as a

804
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: top ten receiver. That's not ridiculous, is it. No?

805
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: I mean he was really good last year too. It's

806
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: just like his like you said, his quarterback left a

807
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: lot to be desired, And there was games like believe

808
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 2: it was the Christmas Day game against the Chiefs where

809
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: they threw him the ball twice or something like that

810
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: because they just had a lead and were riding Zamir White.

811
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: So he is still awesome. And when they gave him

812
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: the games where he would get volume, he would put

813
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: up fantasy numbers and he made up for that bad

814
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 2: game with a huge week in Championship Week. I just

815
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: think that's kind of depending on who the quarterback is. Like,

816
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: if it's Justin Fields thrown to Devonte Adams, sign me

817
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: up in Round two all day. If it's I don't

818
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: think it'll be eight In O'Connell. But if it's someone

819
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 2: like that, then I think Devonte will have another season

820
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: like he did this this past season, where it's up

821
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: and down week to week depending on game script and

822
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: if they have to throw.

823
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean, quarterback has to be the main priority for

824
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: the Raiders this offseason because it can't be Aidan O'Connell.

825
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: I think they are. It didn't take long for them,

826
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: I think, to get over the Jimmy Garoppolo experience.

827
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 2: At this point.

828
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know they're not gonna go with Brian Hoyer.

829
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: They have to do something, whether it is making a

830
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: trade for Justin Fields, whether it's somehow throwing a big

831
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: offer at somebody at free agency. You know they're not

832
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: really gonna be in a great position to get one

833
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: of those game changing quarterbacks at the top of the draft.

834
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: And I think that's gonna have a lot to do

835
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: with that's gonna have a lot to do with what

836
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: the Raider offense is as a whole, but especially for

837
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: Devontae Adams. So I think he's still gonna go where

838
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: he is, and he's right now. He's wide receiver twelve.

839
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: He goes there on talent, and then if the situation

840
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: gets better, maybe he moves up a little bit. Anyway,

841
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: that's the first two rounds of our mock draft. It

842
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: is in progress. Still we are midway through round three.

843
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: I should probably be looking at who I want to

844
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: take when it gets down to me. Some of the

845
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: other top names that are still out there right now.

846
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: I mean Cooper Cup, Josh Jacobs is still there. Ti

847
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: Higgins is still there. I mean Austin Eckler, Nick Chubbs

848
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: are still out there. I expect that they're going to

849
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: fall a little bit in this draft. Jalen Waddle is

850
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: still there. You have two quarterbacks off the board Josh

851
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: Allen Patrick Mahomes does go in round three spoiler alert.

852
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: So two quarterbacks off the board, but Jalen Hurts still there,

853
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: a lot of Lamar Jackson, a lot of the top

854
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: quarterbacks still available there, so gonna be interesting, and at

855
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: this rate we may finish by Memorial Day. So we'll

856
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 1: see anyway.

857
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: That's enough of that.

858
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Thursday and we will preview Super

859
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty eight. I don't know if you heard, but

860
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: it's happening this weekend in Las Vegas. So we will

861
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: dive into the Chiefs and the forty nine ers, give

862
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: you our thoughts and make some predictions for what we

863
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: think is going to happen at Allegiance Stadium on Sunday.

864
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: But at the meantime, don'll do it for this edition

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Speaker 1: of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy, safe and healthy,

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Speaker 1: do good and live well. Stay safe wherever you might be,

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Speaker 1: and we will talk to you again on Thursday.