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Speaker 1: All the while politicals getting eight million dollars from USAID

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Speaker 1: Well with me now from the Center for Security Policy,

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Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on the program, Hi Grant. All right,

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Speaker 10: This was a very clear break in the nineteen nineties

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Speaker 10: But it wasn't a CIA front. That was a clear

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Speaker 1: And we know that there are contract contractors an easy

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Speaker 2: Can we survive by shutting this agency down? From me?

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Speaker 1: I look at all the spending I see speaker Johnson said,

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Speaker 10: Sure, it's tearing apart traditional societies around the world, and

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Speaker 10: And if we want to do humanitarian aid, we can

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Speaker 1: No including that from people like Bill Gates who said

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, there's another scandal brewing, right and that

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Speaker 2: Thankfully President Trump has pardoned them to the point that

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Speaker 1: Of line FBI agents, There's no doubt about it. Now,

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Speaker 1: Do I think all of them are guilty of persecution

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Speaker 1: The Department of Justice wants names. They want names of

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Speaker 1: Well, the FBI doesn't give the names as it was

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Speaker 2: If you're proud of your work. Why do you care whether.

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Speaker 1: of this. Kyle Sarafin is with us. Kyle is great

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Speaker 7: No, it's my pleasure. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: All right, Kyle, you were one of the first that

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Speaker 1: I saw this story that they only release employee identification

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Speaker 12: Well, you're seeing the culture of resistance and the idea

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Speaker 7: It's bigger than that, actually though.

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Speaker 12: In the January sixth cases, for the first time that

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Speaker 12: friends at work cartel cases, you know, people who actually

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Speaker 7: They're not redacted. They're given out to the public.

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Speaker 12: And occasionally we would get these threat evaluations where somebody

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Speaker 12: You're gonna shield FBI agents' names from grandmothers and military

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Speaker 7: It's absurd. So all of this has been really bad.

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Speaker 12: And then of course they're represent The person they chose

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Speaker 1: Tell me about the FBI agents and the overwhelming majority

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Speaker 2: Is the entire FBI corrupt.

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Speaker 7: Well, there's obviously good agents left.

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Speaker 12: And you know, my buddies that work criminal cases that

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Speaker 7: They're not worried about this at all.

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Speaker 12: The stuff they did, they'd be happy to look anybody

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Speaker 12: Their AFOs is what we call them, and they come

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Speaker 7: They get them from Border Patrol.

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Speaker 12: And CBP and various other agencies that are doing it,

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Speaker 7: There's no big deal.

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Speaker 12: And obviously the management culture there is rotted. It's not

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Speaker 1: Well, they've already lost what like six of eight of

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Speaker 7: And then you've got a mixed bag of supervisors.

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Speaker 7: So you should be out there and canvas.

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Speaker 12: You should be asking those that are running the field offices,

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Speaker 12: They actually have a thing called statistics. They can do

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Speaker 1: Well, look, if Pete Haigseth can come up, he wouldn't

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Speaker 2: Think that would be very, very good for morale.

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Speaker 1: I also think you got to bring in a mix

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Speaker 2: But it's fascinating.

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Speaker 1: It talks to you, Kyle Sarah fin and I appreciate

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Speaker 1: all the work you've done to expose what's going on,

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Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate it's very kind.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, thanks for coming on tonight. We appreciate you. This

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Speaker 1: And I think Cash Bettel, when he gets in there,

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Speaker 1: President Trump calls for the riviera of the Middle East

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Speaker 1: where Gaza once stood.

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Speaker 2: Is this a good idea? Next?

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Speaker 2: We have a ten.

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Speaker 1: So that, folks, is President Trump doing what he does best,

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Speaker 1: engaging in common sense. He signs an executive order cutting

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Speaker 1: off the money. You want to get people to change

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Speaker 1: their behavior, cut.

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Speaker 2: The money off.

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Speaker 1: No more men in women's sports. So there's some iconic

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Speaker 1: moments from pre and Trump. Him hugging the flag, him

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Speaker 1: working the window at McDonald's. And I think this is

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Speaker 1: an iconic moment as well, President Trump sticking up for

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Speaker 1: the women and girls.

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Speaker 2: Do we have it? Do we have it? Let's see here,

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Speaker 2: this is where he's hugging the girls. Let's see check

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Speaker 2: it out. Okay, yeah, yeah, no problem, we don't have that.

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Speaker 2: No big deal. We've had a little technical problems today, folks.

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Speaker 2: But bear with me, all right. I want to turn

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Speaker 2: now to Gaza.

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Speaker 1: More common sense for President Trump. We know the people

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Speaker 1: of Gaza despise Israel. We know for decades it's not

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Speaker 1: working with the people of Gaza enabling and embracing Hamas.

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Speaker 2: On the southern side of Israel.

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Speaker 1: It is constantly Gozins and Hamas breaking the ceasefire. So

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Speaker 1: President Trump comes up with a common sense idea. Get

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Speaker 1: the people of Gaza out, move them to someplace nice,

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Speaker 1: give them a yard, give them some jobs, but get

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Speaker 1: them out of Gaza. And then what we got left

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Speaker 1: with I don't You can call it Gaza Lago maybe,

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Speaker 1: or call it Maragaza.

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Speaker 2: I don't care. But it's a start.

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Speaker 3: We have an opportunity to do something that could be phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to be cute, I don't want

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Speaker 3: to be a wise guy. But the riviera of the

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Speaker 3: Middle East, this could be something that could be so bad.

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Speaker 3: This could be so magnificent. But more importantly than that

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Speaker 3: is the people that have been absolutely destroyed that live

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Speaker 3: there now can live in peace.

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Speaker 1: The people have been destroyed and it is an all

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Speaker 1: out hell hole now, so what is the best thing

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Speaker 1: to happen? I think in the end, you've got to

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Speaker 1: relocate them. So Gozins have been unable to embrace peace.

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Speaker 1: We know they hail hamas terrorists as heroes, So why

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Speaker 1: in the world would we allow that to continue when

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Speaker 1: we know that Israel is a purveyor of peace, that's

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Speaker 1: all they want.

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Speaker 2: Now. Saudi Arabia has pushed back against this.

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Speaker 1: So what is the goal of President Trump's idea to

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Speaker 1: move gosins, relocate them and build the riviera of the

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Speaker 1: Middle East in Gaza?

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Speaker 2: He has a number of different goals, all right.

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Speaker 1: Could he be using this as a simple distraction as

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Speaker 1: he overwhelms the media with news and they can't keep up.

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Speaker 1: Maybe is it simply a negotiating tool to force the

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Speaker 1: Middle East into talks to embrace peace.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, or maybe.

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Speaker 1: He's legit and this is exactly what he wants to do.

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Speaker 1: Either way, what cannot be denied is that the reality

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Speaker 1: is the situation isn't working.

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Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: You want a two state solution? I ask you, who's

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Speaker 1: going to run the second state? Is it going to

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Speaker 1: be the Muslim Brotherhood? I don't think so, Hamas, I

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Speaker 1: don't think so. You can't have a terrorist organization run

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Speaker 1: the second state, which is what's happening right now. So

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Speaker 1: this is the only thing that works now. The Left,

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Speaker 1: as you know, is freaking out about this. This is

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Speaker 1: AOC talking about ethnic cleansing.

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Speaker 2: We have known that this is Trump's plan for the

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Speaker 2: gods of strips.

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Speaker 14: He isn't pristic.

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Speaker 6: It is the definition of ethnic hunting.

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Speaker 2: It is part of the culmination of what I do

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Speaker 2: to be outside of calste people.

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Speaker 6: And this is generally one of the most horrific matters,

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Speaker 6: the humanitarian catastrophes that we've.

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Speaker 10: Seen in mornst.

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Speaker 2: Have you seemed live in Gaza?

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Speaker 1: It is literally rubble and ruined thanks to Hamas that

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Speaker 1: brought it on themselves ethnic cleansing. President Trump said he's

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Speaker 1: gonna move them to a beautiful land. Well, they'll finally

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Speaker 1: have a yard, maybe someone will have pools, they'll have jobs,

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Speaker 1: they will not live in the hell hole called Gaza.

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Speaker 2: That is not ethnic cleansing.

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Speaker 1: That's giving somebody a better life in the relocation, because

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Speaker 1: life in Gaza isn't great right now, especially under the

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Speaker 1: thumb of Hamas, even though Gazin's embraced that. So AOC

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Speaker 1: is completely out of line. There now the idea of

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Speaker 1: the United States taking it over, which is something President

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Speaker 1: Trump said, is on the table. It runs counterintuitive to

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Speaker 1: what President Trump said about not getting American troops involved.

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Speaker 1: So President Trump, his press secretary, was asked about US

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Speaker 1: troops the possibility of this.

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Speaker 2: This is what Caroline Levitt said, cut eight.

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Speaker 11: I would reject the premise of your question that this

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Speaker 11: forces the United States to be entanged in conflicts abroad.

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Speaker 11: The President has not committed to putting boots on the

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Speaker 11: ground in Gaza. He has also said that the United

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Speaker 11: States is not going to pay for the rebuilding of Gaza.

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Speaker 11: His administration is going to work with our partners in

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Speaker 11: the region to reconstruct this region. And let me just

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Speaker 11: take a step back here, because this is an out

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Speaker 11: of the box idea. That's who President Trump is, that's

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Speaker 11: why the American people elected him, and his goal is

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Speaker 11: lasting peace in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: I think there may be something what President Trump was

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Speaker 1: doing yesterday, and it's to get people talking about the

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Speaker 1: reality of the situation. And the reality of the situation

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Speaker 1: is it's not working and it's not changing, and there

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Speaker 1: is no end in sight of the fighting that Hamas

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Speaker 1: causes on a regular basis towards Israel. The attacks always

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Speaker 1: come from the south into Israel. So this gets everybody talking,

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Speaker 1: and I believe in the end something needs to change.

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Speaker 1: This is one idea. Do I want to see American

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Speaker 1: soldier's boots on the grounds in Gaza?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Would I like to see a beautiful riviera There may

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Speaker 1: be paid for by Saudi Arabia and other Middle Eastern

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Speaker 1: countries and make it a destination and get the people

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Speaker 1: of Gaza out, maybe into Jordan, maybe into Egypt where

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Speaker 1: they could live and start to build back their lives

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Speaker 1: and leave Israel alone, all the while we wipe out

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Speaker 1: Hamas common sense ideas to me, though, the Left freaks

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Speaker 1: out over all of it. All right, folks, it will

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Speaker 1: come as no surprise a Biden era appointee collaborated with

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Speaker 1: a Chinese company to attack Amazon. That story is next, well, folks.

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Speaker 1: I certainly have my issues with Amazon. I think they

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Speaker 1: rely too much on China for their goods to sell

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Speaker 1: to Americans, and the FTC has an anti trust case

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Speaker 1: going against Amazon. But whatever you think of this anti

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Speaker 1: trust case, I want to raise awareness to something Lena

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Speaker 1: Kahan did, the chairwoman of the FTC. She recruited Timu Temu.

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Speaker 1: You probably know this Chinese group. It's a competitor of

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Speaker 1: Amazon that has made inroads into the United States.

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Speaker 2: They have no.

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Speaker 1: Warehouses here while Amazon gives about Americans one point five

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Speaker 1: million jobs here, and they recruited Teamu to bring dirt

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Speaker 1: on Amazon. Now, why would a United States agency bring

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Speaker 1: in the enemy China to try to attack an American company.

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Speaker 1: This is the FTC under Khan, a Biden appointee, wanted

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Speaker 1: to make Amazon open up its warehouses and its distribution

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Speaker 1: places to its competitors. That alone, I believe is anti American.

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Speaker 1: This idea of TEAMU coming in and waging war against

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Speaker 1: Amazon in the courts on behalf of the US government,

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Speaker 1: to me is backwards, especially when Google suspended the Tamu

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Speaker 1: app when they realized it had a backdoor window into users' emails.

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Speaker 1: Well with me now is the president of the American

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Speaker 1: Anti Trust Education Project. Robert bork Junior is with us.

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Speaker 1: Mister Borkin, it is great to have you on the program.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting because I don't often defend Amazon, but

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Speaker 1: in this case, I think I probably should. You wrote

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Speaker 1: an article about this. You've been studying this, tell me

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Speaker 1: the big problem?

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Speaker 14: Well, look for an agency to go to a competitor

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Speaker 14: of a company that it is suing is not illegal,

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Speaker 14: and it's certainly fairly typical. But in this case, Lena

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Speaker 14: Kahan sent her staff to talk to Timu, which is

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Speaker 14: a sort of super discounter from China that violates at

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Speaker 14: least the spirit of our laws because it avoids paying

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Speaker 14: tariffs in America because it sends it won't send anything

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Speaker 14: more than only will send eight hundred dollars or less

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Speaker 14: of its products to directly to American consumers, that way

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Speaker 14: avoiding having to pay any tariffs. So they've got this

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Speaker 14: little game going. But even worse than that is that

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Speaker 14: the Senate Select Committee reported some time ago that Timu

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Speaker 14: relies on forced labor from Xinjiang, which is the provincial

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Speaker 14: home of the Wigers, where torture and forced sterilization and

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Speaker 14: religious repression and concentration camps are being used by the Chinese,

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Speaker 14: and they use that labor to make goods, violation of

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Speaker 14: our laws as well as basic human decency.

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Speaker 4: So I just find.

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Speaker 14: It just unbelievable that the chair of the FTC would

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Speaker 14: reach out to people like that to punish a law

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Speaker 14: abiding American company that is one of the most innovative

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Speaker 14: companies in America, that creates millions of jobs, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 14: and provides goods to American consumers at a fair price,

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Speaker 14: in fact, at a discounted price.

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Speaker 1: Mister Bork, what do you think happens now that the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration is in place, I would imagine he'd replace

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Speaker 1: this FTC chair. What happens would the trust the anti trust.

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Speaker 2: Suit against Amazon? And is there any merit to that lawsuit?

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Speaker 14: I don't think there is much merit to it. In fact,

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Speaker 14: almost none. You know, I've been following this administrator, the

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Speaker 14: last administration's lawsuits against American companies now for four years,

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Speaker 14: and the key sort of overarching element of all of

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Speaker 14: them is that they make stuff up. They bring cases

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Speaker 14: against Apple by creating a market that doesn't exist. They

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Speaker 14: went jerrymander a market, or they alleged to make allegations

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Speaker 14: against Meta for things that were approved by the previous

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Speaker 14: FTCs ten years ago, and they want to bring it

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Speaker 14: back up. So there's a lot to be said for

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Speaker 14: I think the skullduggery of the Treasury of the FTC

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Speaker 14: under Joe Biden and run by Lena Khan. But you

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Speaker 14: meant you asked, what's going to happen now? Well, we

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Speaker 14: have a new chair of the FTC. Already he was

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Speaker 14: a sitting commissioner. He was elevated to chair chairman. His

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Speaker 14: name is Andrew Ferguson, and we will have another Republican

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Speaker 14: probably confirmed in the next couple of weeks, and the

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Speaker 14: Republicans will then have a three to two majority on

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Speaker 14: the Commission. I think they will continue to be aggressive,

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Speaker 14: but perhaps a little bit more thoughtful, a little bit

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Speaker 14: more reliant on economics and facts. Then they're just sort

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Speaker 14: of enormous antipathy to big business and capitalism, and I'm

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Speaker 14: the fact that cases like Amazon will probably get pared

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Speaker 14: down and ultimately perhaps settled, where the other regime just

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Speaker 14: wanted to break.

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Speaker 4: The company up.

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Speaker 1: Look, Amazon, it appears, has taken over the world. I

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Speaker 1: mean now they own whole foods, and I think they're

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Speaker 1: too reliant on China for everything. So you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how far I want government going in and

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Speaker 1: breaking all that up. I'm always very hesitant about breaking

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Speaker 1: situations up like that.

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Speaker 2: I want competitors to be able to compete.

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Speaker 1: Amazon's gotten very, very big, though, But this idea of

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Speaker 1: team who coming in and it really is trying to

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Speaker 1: make inros to be that next competitor. I don't like

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Speaker 1: this because I think they're devious and I think working

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Speaker 1: for the CCP, they're doing much of the same thing

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Speaker 1: that TikTok was doing to gather information on American Citizen

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Speaker 1: ser This is Don Junior on his podcast Trigger talking

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Speaker 1: directly about Team.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this.

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Speaker 15: We've been doing investigations on the show on just how

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Speaker 15: much they've infiltrated our supply chains and explorting products made

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Speaker 15: with forced labor. My father has basically said, you better

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Speaker 15: move manufacturing here, you know, agree to oversight or else

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Speaker 15: you're going to face consequences. We also see these cheap

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Speaker 15: Chinese retailers like Timu and Shan who like to exploit

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Speaker 15: the loopholes in our trade laws, and you know, en

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Speaker 15: route they're goods.

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Speaker 1: Basically everything you just spelled out, Robert Port Junior. And

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Speaker 1: in the end here, something's got to be done to

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Speaker 1: stop that from happening. What do you recommend the administration

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Speaker 1: now as I give you the last word.

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Speaker 14: Here, Well, I think they actually, you know, the President

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Speaker 14: just the other day, was it yesterday?

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Speaker 4: Even tell anymore? It's so fast, it's happening so fast.

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Speaker 14: He just signed an executive order I think, closing that loophole, uh,

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Speaker 14: adding tariffs.

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Speaker 4: So I think that team is going to find.

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Speaker 14: Itself up against the wall pretty quickly here, you know,

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Speaker 14: and the postal service stopped delivering stuff from China for

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Speaker 14: a day. Who knows what that will really, you know,

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Speaker 14: happen again. Uh, you know, I think there. I think

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Speaker 14: their days are numbered. And I think this administration, unlike

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Speaker 14: past administrations, like the Biden administration, basically sucked up to China.

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Speaker 4: I wonder why, well exactly, I think that's I think

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Speaker 4: that's over.

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Speaker 1: I think it is too Look, if history is is judged,

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Speaker 1: President Trump has never been shy about pushing back against China.

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Speaker 1: He's already doing it now with this latest round of tariffs. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't seem to be too concerned over China's retaliatory

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Speaker 1: tariffs against us. We shall see how it plays out.

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Speaker 1: I'm really not all that concerned either. But I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you bringing this story to us. The president of the

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Speaker 1: American Anti Trust Education Project, Robert Bork Junior, thank you, sir.

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Speaker 2: It's nice to see you.

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Speaker 4: Good to see you to thank you.

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Speaker 2: All right, You got it all right, folks.

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Speaker 1: What do Trump's tariffs mean for your portfolio? Staying ahead

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Speaker 1: of the curve for the next and welcome back everyone.

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Speaker 1: So the big question is what will happen with President

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Speaker 1: Trump's tariffs on China. My belief is it will not

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Speaker 1: have a huge effect when you look at liquified natural

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Speaker 1: gas amounting to only two point three percent of our

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Speaker 1: liquid fied natural gas exports going to China. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, Joe Biden had already put a real big

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Speaker 1: pause on liquified natural gas, crude.

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Speaker 2: Oil same thing.

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Speaker 1: China needs our energy products from coal, crude and LNG.

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Speaker 2: Why are they tariffing things they need from us? Are

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Speaker 2: tariffs to China? President Trump is smart.

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Speaker 1: He's tariffing the things that we already make here, allowing

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Speaker 1: us to be able to compete on the on the

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Speaker 1: back end.

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Speaker 2: But what does all this mean for your finances? What

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Speaker 2: does it mean for the markets? To me?

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Speaker 1: I believe all of it amounts to more chaotic events.

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Speaker 1: I don't see spending UH dropping in any major way

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Speaker 1: because we have these interest payments that we have to make,

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Speaker 1: which makes me think that gold is still really a

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Speaker 1: viable option to protect your portfolio. I want to bring

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Speaker 1: in with me now, precious metal specialist for Birch Gold,

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Speaker 1: Philip Patrick, is here.

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Speaker 2: Philip, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 7: Thank you for having me all right.

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Speaker 2: It's great to have you on. Philip. What do you

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Speaker 2: make of Trump's tariffs China?

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Speaker 16: And gold listen, I think your summary was actually a

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Speaker 16: very good one. We need to start addressing some of

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Speaker 16: the issues. We need to address trade imbalancers, and as

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Speaker 16: you intimated, the big problem is a.

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Speaker 10: Revenue issue, a deficit issue.

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Speaker 16: So we're trying to find ways through addressing trade imbalancers

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Speaker 16: through generating external revenue to try and plug a deficit gap.

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Speaker 16: Tarifs are also being used, of course, as a negotiating tools,

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Speaker 16: specifically with Canada and Mexico to stop the flur of

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Speaker 16: fetano through the border. For China, it's a little bit

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Speaker 16: more strategic, right they're looking at incentivizing domestic manufacturer specifically

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Speaker 16: for critical defense related components. So you know, I see

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Speaker 16: tariffs like you creating volatility. They are starting to do

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Speaker 16: that because the problem with tariffs since World War Two,

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Speaker 16: everything's very intertwined. So the second we slap tarifs on China,

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Speaker 16: guess what, we get hit back with retaliatory tariffs. And

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Speaker 16: we're starting to see that now. So volatility is coming,

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Speaker 16: but I think long term is necessary.

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Speaker 1: All right, we could raise a lot of money as

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Speaker 1: a nation with some of these tariffs if they were

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Speaker 1: to end up going through President Trump. Clearly believes in

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Speaker 1: them to bring down our national debt. Our interest payments

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Speaker 1: are through the roof. I mean, it's literally trillions of

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Speaker 1: dollars every day. We'll go more and more bust. When

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Speaker 1: you look at what Doze is doing, it's eight million here,

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Speaker 1: twenty million here, that all of it adds up. Don't

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Speaker 1: get me wrong, but this is a drop in the

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Speaker 1: bucket when it comes to the interest payments we're making

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Speaker 1: on America. I don't see that changing anytime soon, especially

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Speaker 1: with Congress's pension for spending.

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Speaker 7: I agree, Vim and Lee listen.

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Speaker 16: Tariffs as a revenue generator are not fantastic. They're really

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Speaker 16: effective at boosting domestic manufacturing. But the reason they're not

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Speaker 16: effective is a revenue generator. It is that retaliation. So

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Speaker 16: for example, the terriffs that Trump put on China in

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Speaker 16: twenty sixteen, that every dollar they generated in revenue, we

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Speaker 16: had to give back ninety six cents in subsidies in

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Speaker 16: this case to US.

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Speaker 10: Farming, the US farming industry.

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Speaker 2: Doge.

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Speaker 16: I agree, there's not enough money. They're talking about cutting

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Speaker 16: a trillion dollars. I don't see it. For some context,

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Speaker 16: they could fire every government employee. That would be about

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Speaker 16: three hundred billion dollars, so there isn't a huge amount there.

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Speaker 16: I agree with you, We're going to continue to run

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Speaker 16: deficits debt service payments, and I want to leave the

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Speaker 16: viewers with something. Ferguson's lawn, Nile Ferguson, very famous historian.

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Speaker 16: Without exception in history, whenever a great nation spends more

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Speaker 16: on debt service than they do on defense, the empire

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Speaker 16: has collapsed. That has been true of every empire in history.

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Speaker 16: Last year we were one point two trillion on defense, sorry,

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Speaker 16: eight hundred billion on defense, one point two trillion on

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Speaker 16: debt service. So if President Trump pulls this off, he

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Speaker 16: will pull off what no human in history has managed

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Speaker 16: to do.

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Speaker 7: So you know it's time to.

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Speaker 2: Hit Golden will make any difference. Nothing will if America collapses.

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Speaker 1: We can't afford that, right, So I think President trum

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Speaker 1: we'll pull it off. But I also always say follow

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Speaker 1: the smart money. Still to this day China buying gold.

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Speaker 1: You have basically every major nation buying up gold, and

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Speaker 1: record numbers. I'll give you the last word, Philip.

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Speaker 16: Last year they said a new record twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 16: so it's been three years. Consistently they're hedging dollar exposure,

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Speaker 16: and I think we should do the same. Listen, I

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Speaker 16: like you believe in President Trump. Listen to what they're saying.

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Speaker 16: They're addressing the problems that they have a big task

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Speaker 16: in front of them. So I imagine President Trump's edging himself.

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Speaker 16: Central banks around the world, they're edging themselves, and I

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Speaker 16: think we need to do the same.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: Birch Gold as this great book out, Gold in the

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Speaker 1: Trump Era, and I urge people to read this. Philip Patrick,

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Speaker 1: We thank you for coming on. And here's how you

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Speaker 1: can get in touch with our friends at Birch Gold.

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Speaker 2: This really is a.

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Speaker 1: Viable and I mean a really really viable portfolio protection maneuver.

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Speaker 2: Gold is. Here's what you do.

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Speaker 1: Text America to the number nine eight nine eight nine eight.

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Speaker 1: Again to the number nine eight nine eight nine eight.

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Speaker 1: Get your free info kit on gold, and as I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: a copy of the Ultimate Guide for Gold and the

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Speaker 1: Trump Era with a forward by Donald Trump Junior. Again,

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Speaker 1: all you gotta do is text that number America to

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Speaker 1: the number nine eight nine eight nine eight. All Right,

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Speaker 1: Americans are standing up and are no longer fearful of

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Speaker 1: leftist tactics. See how the tables have turned. Next, Welcome

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Speaker 1: back everyone. So apparently the left is just triggered by reality.

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Speaker 1: I use the word tranny sometimes. I know that I

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Speaker 1: don't always like us using that word, but it is

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Speaker 1: what it is. Nancy Macy, who's did in Congress?

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Speaker 17: Watch this, the younger lady has used a phrase that

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Speaker 17: is considered a slur in the LGBT you community and

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Speaker 17: the transgender community.

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Speaker 7: Let me please finish without.

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Speaker 9: An interruption, and tranny, tranny, tranny, I don't really care.

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Speaker 14: You want penises in women's bathrooms and I'm not gonna

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Speaker 14: have it, no, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Let let the gentleman.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Bass doesn't take any guff from anybody. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you call it like you see them. I

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Speaker 1: mean hopefully she's not seeing it, but she might be

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Speaker 1: in the men's room or women's room or the hell

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Speaker 1: you go.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm so the whole thing confuses me.

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Speaker 2: It really, it's gonna do it for us. Stinchfield's Army Rolls.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for watching. See Tomorrow Night