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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.

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Speaker 3: And I am Joe McCormick. And today on Weird House

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Speaker 3: Cinema we are going to be talking about the nineteen

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Speaker 3: forty horror thriller The Devil Bat, starring Bella Lagosi and

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Speaker 3: Suzanne Karen, a movie where the one sentence plot submarine

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Speaker 3: not only includes the phrase giant mutant bat, but also

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Speaker 3: the word lotion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. Yeah. In this episode, we're returning once

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Speaker 2: more to the nineteen forties. This is only our third

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Speaker 2: forties picture on Weird House with and the first in

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Speaker 2: a long time, following nineteen forties Doctor Cyclops and nineteen

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Speaker 2: forty six is The Beast with Five Fingers. So I

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Speaker 2: am excited to return to one of our least explored

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Speaker 2: decades on the show like this. The thirties and the

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Speaker 2: twenties haven't hit as much.

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Speaker 3: Yes, though, you know, some of our the sci fi

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Speaker 3: movies we've done from like the thirties and the forties

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Speaker 3: have been some of my favorites. Actually. Oh, I actually

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Speaker 3: in fact came to the idea of doing Devil Bat

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Speaker 3: this week by looking specifically for movies that are similar

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Speaker 3: to the Beast with Five Fingers starring Peter Lourie, which

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Speaker 3: I loved, and I was thinking, oh, I want something

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Speaker 3: in that zone, and this is what I turned up,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's close. Beast with Five Fingers I

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Speaker 3: think was a little more, you know, higher budget, a

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Speaker 3: little more, a little more elaborate, had a little bit

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Speaker 3: more class, but ultimately on I think the same frequency.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd had more of a gothic flare. This one

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Speaker 2: is more Middle America meets mutant bats.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And while I would say that the plot of

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Speaker 3: this movie is quite formulaic, like there was a pattern

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Speaker 3: that's established with how each of the bat murders takes

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Speaker 3: place that just sort of repeats and is the same

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Speaker 3: way each time. It's almost like the setup to a joke,

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Speaker 3: you know, where it's just like there's a very formulaic

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Speaker 3: repetition until the inversion. It's like that. And yet at

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Speaker 3: the same time, the script isn't actually half bad. I

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Speaker 3: think there is more kind of character and flare in

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Speaker 3: it than you would get for a lot of similar

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Speaker 3: movies from this time period. I'll also say for a

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Speaker 3: horror movie from nineteen forty. I found Devil Bat to

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Speaker 3: have a surprisingly lively pace after the first ten minutes

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Speaker 3: or so, that is the opening scene. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you felt the same way. Rob opening scene is

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Speaker 3: almost comically dull. It's like they thought, you know what

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Speaker 3: people want to see Bela Lagosi looking through a pane

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Speaker 3: of glass for like three minutes straight while he microwaves

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there are a lot of scenes of Bella

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Speaker 2: Lugosi microwaving bats in this film, and you just need

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Speaker 2: to be on board for that. But but then again,

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Speaker 2: it's Bela Lugosi, and if you have to ask, you

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Speaker 2: have to watch any actor do these scenes, it might

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Speaker 2: as well be Bella because least you know he had,

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Speaker 2: you know, even at this point point in his career,

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Speaker 2: you know, he still had a lot of energy, a

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Speaker 2: lot of charisma, and you see that in a film

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Speaker 2: like this, where he's working alongside a lot of very

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Speaker 2: solid professional actors of the time period. This is not

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Speaker 2: this is a low budget picture, but it's not like

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Speaker 2: a zero talent picture. This is not the ed Woods

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Speaker 2: end of the spectrum for Bello's career. But even with

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Speaker 2: you still see that in him.

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Speaker 3: I totally agree. Yeah, Bella, Bella is the star. There's

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Speaker 3: no question about that, which is it's always a good

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Speaker 3: I like that choice here, and I think it works out.

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Speaker 3: But also, as I was saying, I think even with

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it doesn't have the times dull plotting pace that

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Speaker 2: course I had to look up this one in the

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Speaker 2: Psychotronic Encyclopedia. Film and Michael Weldon, the reviewer, the author there.

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Speaker 2: Look him up if you're not familiar with him. If

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Speaker 2: you love weird films, you'd love the work of Michael Weldon.

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Speaker 2: He points out that this was a Producer's Releasing Corporation

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Speaker 2: It was also a success, so they followed it up

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Speaker 2: it concerns the daughter of bell Leegosi's character, while also, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Can't recall him having one in this movie.

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Speaker 2: I know he has one now, So introducing the unknown

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Speaker 2: daughter and then completely exonerating his character for all of

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Speaker 2: his actions in the first film and blaming them on

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Speaker 2: a new villain. This is a picture no spoilers. This

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Speaker 2: is a picture where there's never any doubt that mel

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Speaker 2: Legosi is plotting to murder people with mutant bats and

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Speaker 2: doing it, and there's scenes with internal dialogue about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. In fact, I would almost say if there were

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Speaker 3: any criticism I would make of the plot in this movie,

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Speaker 3: the first one I would probably make is that the

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Speaker 3: good characters are trying to solve a mystery, but you

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Speaker 3: know the answer to the mystery the whole time. You

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Speaker 3: know the answer before they even start investigating, so there's

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Speaker 3: like wanting to see what happens when Bella gets caught.

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Speaker 3: But there's no ambiguity. Yes, he's sending the bats. We

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Speaker 3: know he's sending the bats. We watched him make the bats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you completely derail everything about the first movie.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's not supposed to be that great. It's

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Speaker 2: supposed to be more of a psychological thriller, unless horror film.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not even sure there are any bats in it.

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Speaker 2: But we're not talking about that bats. I know, I know,

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Speaker 2: but anyway, we're not talking about Devil Bat two or

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Speaker 2: the bat daughter of Bat Devil. I forget what it

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Speaker 2: was called now. But Weldon certainly liked this one. He

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Speaker 2: thought this one was pretty lively, and I have to say,

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Speaker 2: bad action looks I thought surprisingly good. I know we're

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Speaker 2: going to maybe disagree a little bit on the special

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Speaker 2: very low expectations for my flapping bats. I love any

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Speaker 2: bad effects in a film from from Bad Puppets to

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Speaker 3: It is better than the batpuppet in Suspiria. But that's

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Speaker 2: The bar is low. This sort of thing, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: It, But yeah, what will I say. I don't think

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Speaker 3: it looks great. I don't think it looks realistic, but

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Speaker 3: it it's fun. You know they staged the scenes.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, all right, I have an elevator pitch for

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Speaker 2: into the plot. But it's breaking bad except with bats

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's right. Yeah, it's if Walter White, instead of

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Speaker 3: making methemphetamine was making bats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you have a so you do have a

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Speaker 2: similar plot with him, like like he was this brilliant

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Speaker 2: But again, no math, just bats and after shave.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a great villain. They always need one

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Speaker 3: like characteristic sin of your seven deadlys, and in both

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, let's go ahead and listen to at

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Speaker 2: least some of the trailer audio here. I think this

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Speaker 2: gives you some of the snappy dialogue as well. When

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Speaker 2: an animal attacks a human, there's bound to be a

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Speaker 2: lot of noise. A die is a scientist state, many

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Speaker 3: Beulook, ever smelled anything like this before? Founded in Don

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's the same stuff that's been on every one

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Speaker 1: All four of the murdered people had this lotion on

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Speaker 1: them when the devil bats struck late.

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Speaker 3: And I'm afraid all these murders have affected you mind.

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Speaker 2: Now, My plan is to sit in the garden and

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Speaker 2: when the killer makes one of those power dives a blasting.

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Speaker 2: All right. Now, at this point you may be wondering,

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Speaker 2: because while it means you can easily find a film

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Speaker 2: like this in various streaming and physical formats, not all

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Speaker 2: the twenty thirteen Keino Classics disc. You can get it

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Speaker 2: film elements, and that one also features audio commentary by

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Speaker 2: film historian Richard Harlan Smith. I had every intention of

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Speaker 3: I do want to see a higher resolution version than

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Speaker 3: I saw of the flat bats, the flat bats on

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, let's get into the people who made

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Speaker 2: gene Yarborough, who lived nineteen hundred through nineteen seventy five,

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Speaker 2: American producer and director who worked his way out. This

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Speaker 2: is one of those those crazy Hollywood stories. A guy

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Speaker 2: This is about beginning back in nineteen thirty six, and

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Speaker 2: like the lower budget Hollywood studios Progressive Pictures in nineteen

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Speaker 2: thirty eight, Who's called Rebellious Daughters.

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Speaker 2: The head of that studio would then go on to

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Speaker 2: this film in nineteen forty, followed by I believe a

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Speaker 3: Okay, because in fact, I think we recently re ran

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was his last picture and certainly not his

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Speaker 3: So I feel like the Devil Bat in the art

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Speaker 2: It is fitting, though that he was apparently buried in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the plot is sort of so like Bella Legosi

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Speaker 2: I think she's good in this. She has very captivating

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Speaker 2: all these what turned out to be mutant bat murders

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00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 2: and for a time they think prehistoric bat murders. Played

432
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 2: by Dave O'Brien, who lived nineteen twelve through nineteen sixty nine,

433
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 2: American film actor. I think at least one time director,

434
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 2: also a screenwriter. He wrote a number of screenplays as well.

435
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 2: He's pretty prolific, and I think he part he was credited.

436
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: He has co credit on an Emmy for work on

437
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: The Red Skeleton show writing comedy. So this guy very talented.

438
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 2: He worked a lot in these categories, but he's best

439
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: remembered today, perhaps secondarily for his role in this film,

440
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: but mostly for his role as a deranged dope fiend

441
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 2: in the nineteen thirty six film Tell Your Children, better

442
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 2: known I think to everyone, as its re released title

443
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 2: refer Madness.

444
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 3: We just a powerhouse performance. He's the one who is

445
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 3: aggressively puffing the marijuana cigarette over and over as the

446
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 3: lady is playing the piano. He's screaming at her to

447
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 3: play faster, Play faster, Yes, And the narrator tells us

448
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: that this is what happens to the reefer addict that

449
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 3: he ends up with. Is they call him like inescapable

450
00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: madness or something.

451
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: A notorious film, a piece of anti marijuana propaganda that

452
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: would later on to become like a cult classic because

453
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: it is so ridiculously over the top and an ultimately

454
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 2: very telling of this time period and it's sensibilities and

455
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: objectives in his messaging. But it's a delirious performance, and

456
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 2: it's interesting that it ultimately outshines a lot of his

457
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: very successful and popular contemporary work, Like he was a

458
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: successful contemporary actor. But you know, we often end up

459
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: remembering folks for the weird stuff.

460
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, as you said, in Devil Bat,

461
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: he plays our sort of Jack Rabbit wise newspaper man.

462
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 3: He's cool, he's quick witted, he's a touch devious, like

463
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 3: he's got a little bit of a flim flam artist

464
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 3: in him, but just enough that he's he's a bad boy,

465
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: but still the good guy.

466
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird that there's a whole subplot that goes

467
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 2: on with him and his photographer attempting to fake a

468
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 2: bad attack or fake a bat so they can get

469
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 2: a photograph of it, so they don't have a they're

470
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: a little low on journalistic integrity. But there's still our heroes.

471
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: We're still totally rooting for them.

472
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 3: You know, we've talked on the show before about how

473
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: so many sci fi and horror films from before roughly

474
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 3: the sixties have very boring male leads. I mean, some

475
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 3: after the sixties do too, but especially like in the fifties,

476
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 3: that's just the dead zone for protagonists in this Male

477
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 3: protagonists in these genres the kind of low deaf rectangles

478
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: who are there to just kind of look vaguely handsome

479
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 3: and punch the villain, rescue the female lead, but don't

480
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 3: really have any interesting dialogue or sharp angles to their personality.

481
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 3: I found this guy refreshingly different. He's got a good

482
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 3: bit of personality. There are weird quirks about him, and

483
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: some of his dialogue is kind of witty.

484
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 2: You know.

485
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 3: Who he actually reminded me of was the male lead

486
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 3: in Doctor X from nineteen thirty two, that the pre

487
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: code horror film with synthetic flesh. That character was also

488
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: a wise cracking newspaper reporter.

489
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: That's good. I mean, I guess that ultimately like the

490
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 2: news paper reporter, just in the long term as a

491
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: fictional archetype, you know, kind of removed from the reality

492
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: of actual journalism. It is often a space where we

493
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 2: play with more rogue individuals. You know, they are in

494
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: this gray space between like pure authority figures and and

495
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: of course the criminal elemental forces of chaos and so forth,

496
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: and so there is often a lot of room there

497
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 2: for it to be wacky, weird, or even just completely

498
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 2: chaotic itself, you know. And it's like fear and loathing

499
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, you know, getting into gonzo journalism and all.

500
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: So even in this time period where there's a lot

501
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: that's you know, getting more and more straight laced and

502
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,719
Speaker 2: buckled down, this is so much better than just your

503
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: square jawed, you know, steak eating policeman type character you

504
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: would get in various other pictures.

505
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. And though I don't want to oversell the weirdness

506
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: of this character, he's not super I mean, he's not

507
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: Hunter Thompson, but he is kind of fox. He's kind

508
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: of like, he's kind of wily and funny and not

509
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 3: just there to be your you know, lawful, good slab

510
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: of meat.

511
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. And ultimately I thought it held his own in

512
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: his big one on one scene with Bella at the

513
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: end of the picture.

514
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agreed, all right.

515
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: Supporting character in this is Yolanda Donlin, who plays the

516
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: character Maxine, who is a French maid. She lived in

517
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty through twenty fourteen, American born British based actress

518
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: who mostly worked in the UK. This is not the

519
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: only film where she plays a French maid, but her

520
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: career on the British stage seems to have been far

521
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: more substantial. So she worked with the likes of Laurence

522
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: Olivier and her last film was nineteen seventy six is

523
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: Seven Nights in Japan.

524
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: She was a ray of sunshine here. I loved Maxine

525
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 3: all right.

526
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: The main perfume boss is this guy, Henry Morton, and

527
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: he is played by Guy Usher, who lived eighteen eighty

528
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: three through nineteen forty four. Prolific character actor of the

529
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: thirties and forties. His films include The Case of the

530
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: Black Cat from thirty six, Buck Rogers thirty nine, and

531
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: The Spanish Kate Mystery from nineteen thirty five. I thought

532
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: he's pretty solid in this.

533
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah he is business man.

534
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah he has a kind of there's a very funny

535
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: but at times a very awkwardly written scene with him

536
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: in Bella Lagosi's character where bell We'll get to it,

537
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 2: but what is it?

538
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 3: One of the many scenes where Bella is trying to

539
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 3: convince somebody to put lotion on.

540
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: Yes, and also, like Belle Lagosi like eventually just out

541
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 2: of pride, like all but admitting to the previous murders

542
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 2: in the film, and Henry Morton is just kind of like,

543
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 2: what was this guy talking about? And then finally Don's

544
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: on him. Oh he killed all these people?

545
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Oh wait next, are we going to get

546
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: to the newspaper editor.

547
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: Yes, the character is Joe McGuinty. The actor is Arthur Q. Bran,

548
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: who of eighteen ninety nine through nineteen fifty nine American

549
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: actor and radio personality who he had many other credits,

550
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: but he served as the voice of the Looney Tunes

551
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: character Elmer Fudd from nineteen forty through nineteen fifty nine. Yeah,

552
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: he was not the originator, and there were others who

553
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 2: did that voice during this time, but he was an

554
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: official Elmer Fudd, a voice actor.

555
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 3: That totally fits. I did not make that connection.

556
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's not it feels like the least

557
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: shocking thing in the world when you see him in

558
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: the film, because he looks like Elmer Fudd. It's like

559
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: he has a very Elmer Fudd look. He's just not

560
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: wearing the hunting cap.

561
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: But he's also so I mean, it's early in the

562
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: existence of this cliche, so I guess he's one of

563
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: the examples that is being copied in later films and

564
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: TV shows. But he is the classic like police chief

565
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: or newspaper editor who's barking at our rogue main character

566
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: about how you're a loose cannon. He's mcgarnigle's boss on

567
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: The Simpsons. He's like, well, mcgarnagle, you know Billy is dead.

568
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a lot of fun scenes with this character.

569
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: All right, And I'm gonna mention the musical director here.

570
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: This is you know, films of this nature from the

571
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: time period. They're often using like stock music, and ultimately,

572
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, I couldn't tell. I didn't do deep

573
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: enough research to find out exactly how much this guy

574
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: worked on the music, how much of it is stock

575
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: and so forth. But he was very prolific, so I'm

576
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: just going to mention him briefly. Anyway. It's David Schudnow,

577
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: who lived nineteen oh nine through two thousand and two.

578
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: Russian born composer and musical director who worked as music

579
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: supervisor or musical director on one hundred and sixty four

580
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: credits between thirty eight and fifty six. His composer credits

581
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: include nineteen forty two Is the Mad Monster and then

582
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: later russ Meyer's nineteen sixty one film Erotica, and he

583
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: went on to produce a number of projects in the

584
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: sixties and seventies, mostly the films that were directed by

585
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: his son Byron shudnow born nineteen twenty six, including a

586
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: trilogy of G rated intelligent Doberman pictures. I've mentioned these

587
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: on the show before. They are The Doberman Gang seventy two,

588
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: The Daring Doberman's from seventy three, and The Amazing Doberman's

589
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: from seventy six. William Goldstein of Doctor Fib's fame was

590
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: one of the writers on that last picture.

591
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: These are Doberman. You're not talking about people named Doberman.

592
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: These are Doberman's the dog.

593
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: These are straight up dogs, I think, solving crimes and stuff. Again,

594
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: not a horror movie or anything. It's like apparently G

595
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: rated fun, but it was like a whole franchise that

596
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: I feel like is largely forgot beautiful.

597
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to be mean, but I do

598
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: not Nothing about the music in this movie really struck me.

599
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: It was kind of forgettable.

600
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: It does everything expect a film from this time period

601
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: to do, and nothing more. All Right, Well, shall we

602
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: unleash the plot and an unsuspecting audience.

603
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's open the window and let the bats out. Okay.

604
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: So we begin with a text legend over like superimposed

605
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: over a shot of just a town that By the way,

606
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: did you have an idea of where this was supposed

607
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: to take place? Because the opening shots made me think

608
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: this is supposed to be in the American Southwest. Looks

609
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 3: like the southwest. But then the reporter that goes to

610
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: investigate is from the Chicago Register.

611
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, who you know, they might just have a satellite

612
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: office here, So I don't know. Everything feels very solid

613
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: Middle America, you know.

614
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: Okay. Anyway, the text says, all Heathville loved Paul Carruthers.

615
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: They're kindly village doctor. No one suspected that in his

616
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: home laboratory on a hillside overlooking the magnificent estate of

617
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: Martin Heath, the doctor found time to conduct certain private experiments. Weird,

618
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: terrifying experiments. Period. Okay, So then we open on Bela

619
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: Lugosi hunched over a table covered in chemistry equipment. You

620
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: got beakers, flasks, gas flames, in a room with fake

621
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: stonework walls, and he's doing chemistry mixing solutions, decanting things

622
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: into bottles, occasionally just having him a little free sample,

623
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: like like sniffing, you know, getting a sniff yep.

624
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: Yep, doing some mad science. Basically, you know what he's

625
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: up to. You didn't even need the crawl. Of course,

626
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: Belle goes. He is up to weird, terrifying experiments. And

627
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, we don't know. It's illegal,

628
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: you know, God bless them. Go ahead do your weird

629
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: terrifying stuff.

630
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: Why would he be sniffing the chemicals if there was

631
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: anything wrong with them? So he goes into a secret passageway.

632
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: This is accessed by way of a hidden switch in

633
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: a bookcase, and this leads down into a dungeon, and

634
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: the dungeon is full of bats. It's hard to tell

635
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: exactly what's going on, So Rob, I'm gonna lay it

636
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: out what I thought was going on, and you tell

637
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: me if it matches your impression. I think there are

638
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: lots of bats, but for substantial portions of the movie,

639
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: only one bat seems to be active at a time,

640
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: So I believe these other bats are backup bats that

641
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: are in storage waiting to be activated by the microwave.

642
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: As you put it the thing that he's going to

643
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: put this bat into in a minute.

644
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: That's right. You can only cook up one mutant bat

645
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: at a time, but you've got to have a lot

646
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 2: of normal bats on hand to cook up if something

647
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 2: happens to that prime bat.

648
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: Okay, So the bats are dangling upside down from what

649
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: looked like coat hangers. There is one main bat at

650
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: the center of the room. It's bigger than all the others,

651
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: and Legosi approaches it to say the first line of

652
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: the film, what do you think the opening line of

653
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: dialogue in this movie will be? He says, ah, my friend,

654
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 3: our theory of glandular stimulation through electrical impulses was correct.

655
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: That's a hell of an opener. And then he goes

656
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: on to say, a few days ago, you were as

657
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: small as your companion, and now look at you, and

658
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: I think he's got to be a good thirty percent

659
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: bigger than the other bats. Now Here we cut to

660
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 3: a close up shot of a real bat's face. We

661
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 3: will see this exact same bat close up footage so

662
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 3: many times in the movie. I don't know if it

663
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 3: was something shot for the film or if they were

664
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 3: just getting you know, nature stock footage. But it's like

665
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: right up in the bat's face, and it's some kind

666
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: of bat like looking around, looking like it's struggling against restraints.

667
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought they did a pretty good job integrating

668
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: their live animal shots and their prop shots here. Of course,

669
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: as you might expect, this is often the case. The

670
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: bat we see enclose up is clearly a fruit bat

671
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: of some sort, yes, which is of course in real life,

672
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: absolutely not interested in human flesh or anything like that.

673
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: It wants to eat mangoes or something. But they to

674
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: the untrained eye, they look more ferocious. They look kind

675
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: of like wolves, so that's what we get. But yeah,

676
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: I thought the integration between the shots was pretty good though.

677
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: The hangar bat kind of looks like some sort of

678
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: like cured bat jerky, right.

679
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: Yes, it looks like a bat got caught into into

680
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: a hydraulic press and so it's just a furry pancake

681
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: with wings and then they left it out to dry

682
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: in the sun.

683
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah.

684
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: So Legosi dismounts the bat hangar and transports it to

685
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: another room. This is a high voltage bombardment chamber behind

686
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 3: a steel door with thick glass viewing windows. He leaves

687
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: he like hangs the bat up in the room, leaves

688
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: the room, puts on welding goggles, flips a switch. The

689
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 3: electricity starts going nuts inside the room. It's like arcing

690
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 3: from all these tesla coils and stuff, and the bat

691
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: is just hanging there while Lugosi watches through the glass.

692
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: And I think the director must have thought that people

693
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: would just really get a kick out of the glandular

694
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: stimulation scene because it goes on for quite some time.

695
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 3: It's like zap zap zaps app for a while. Then

696
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 3: Lugosi goes inside the room to make some adjustments, then

697
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 3: goes back outside and starts zapping it again, and we

698
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 3: just get to watch.

699
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess it's worth pointing out that, like,

700
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: what the full run time of this picture is sixty

701
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: eight minutes, Yeah, so maybe we do have a certain

702
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: amount of padding going on here.

703
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. But as the electrical stimulation continues, the bat begins

704
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 3: to flex its wings, so it's I guess it's coming

705
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 3: to life, coming out of cold storage now. Once the

706
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: stimulation is over, Legosi checks the bat for a heartbeat.

707
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: He goes in with like a stethoscope and he's checking

708
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 3: it out and he seems very very pleased with himself,

709
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 3: but he is interrupted by a phone call. It's a

710
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 3: call from his bosses that they are the business partners

711
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 3: Henry Morton and Martin Heath Heath of this heath Ville Heath,

712
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: the Heath Company, and Henry Morton is his partner, and

713
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: they are inviting doctor Carruthers to a family get together

714
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: at the Heath residence that night, and then Carrothers says

715
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: he appreciates the invitation quote, but I am very busy

716
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 3: working on a formula for a new shaving lotion. And

717
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: then Heath replies, oh, you know, but Doc, this is

718
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 3: my daughter's idea. And this is referring to Heath's adult

719
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 3: daughter Mary. They say, you know, Henry Morton's son Don

720
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: is going to propose to her tonight, and apparently she

721
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 3: will be very upset if BELLEA Lugosi isn't there for that.

722
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: So they hang up the phone and then Henry Morton

723
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 3: says he's going to be surprised when he finds the

724
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 3: special occasion is to present him with this bonus check.

725
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: He says this while holding the check in his hand,

726
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: and then Heath takes the check and stares at it

727
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: and says, almost wistfully, five thousand dollars. I don't know,

728
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: maybe it's not coming across in the way I'm describing,

729
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: But there are so many, like out loud references to

730
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 3: this five thousand dollar check. It got very funny to me.

731
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, five thousand snaggers. Yeah, this is a lot of money.

732
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: Well, whatever the amount is, it is just all these

733
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 3: people gathered around being like, wow, this is the dollar

734
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 3: amount of the check. Anyway, Before Carothers goes to the party,

735
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 3: we see him explaining his giant bat scheme to the

736
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: giant bat. He dips a cotton ball in the new

737
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 3: shaving lotion he's making, and he holds it up to

738
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 3: the glandular stimulated bat, the glandularly stimulated bat, and the

739
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: bat starts screaming, and Legosi is like, good, Yes, I

740
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: taught you to hate this fragrance while you slept. Now

741
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: if you smell it while you are awake, you will

742
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: strike to kill.

743
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: All right, all right, murderous conditioning.

744
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: Okay, let me go to a scene of the party

745
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: at Morton and Heath's house. So Mary is Heath's daughter,

746
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 3: but they're also just a bunch of loose sons running around.

747
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: I don't remember whose son is. Who is There's a

748
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: bunch of them, and Morton is like, remember Roy, Tommy,

749
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 3: you're not supposed to say anything about this five thousand

750
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: dollars check that I hold in my hand until you

751
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: get the signal from Heath. And then Mary Heath and

752
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: a Morton son named don Are. They're sort of cuddling

753
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: and flirting on the other couch and Morton starts to

754
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: give them the same talk, and they have all these

755
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 3: ideas about how they should unveil the five thousand dollars check.

756
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: But then they find out her others is not going

757
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: to come to the party because he is busy with

758
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 3: his lotion. So Roy, one of the Heaths sons, offers

759
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 3: to take the check up to the laboratory and here

760
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 3: you get our first like put on the lotion Roy scene.

761
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: So Roy goes up to the lab and Carruthers reacts

762
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 3: with this strange, kind of hard to read cascade of

763
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 3: emotions when he receives the five thousand dollars check. He'll

764
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: explain why in a minute. But then he's like, okay,

765
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: Roy Heath, I want you to try my new aftershave.

766
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: And so Roy takes some of it and he smells it.

767
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: He says, ooh, pretty strong, isn't it. This establishes a pattern.

768
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: All the victims are going to say this like, wow,

769
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: smells really strong. But Legosi reassures him. He says, no, no,

770
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 3: the scent evaporates a short time after you use it.

771
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 3: So Roy takes a few drops in his hand, and

772
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 3: then the Legosi gleefully explains. He says, now, rub it

773
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: on the tender part of your neck.

774
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: Here.

775
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: I love these scenes. So he keeps like touching his

776
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 3: throat and being like, here's where you rub it. It's

777
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 3: so soft on the skin.

778
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: Yes, says you want to apply lots of it to

779
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 2: the esophagus and the jugular.

780
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. So Roy rubs the lotion on his throat,

781
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: then he departs. When he leaves, he says good night, doctor,

782
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 3: and Legosi replies, goodbye, Roy. He will also do this

783
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: in every one of the murders.

784
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: Yes.

785
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 3: Then we get a weird voiceover of Legosi's thoughts. Is

786
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: this the only time in the entire movie when we

787
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 3: hear a character's thoughts out loud? I think, so it is.

788
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, this really feels like one of those classic moments

789
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: of the director or someone in the production saying, I

790
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: don't think we got this across. Let's have some voice

791
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: over here, And that's what they do.

792
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: Absolutely feels tacked on, but what So he's standing there

793
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: staring at the check and we hear Legosi's voiceover say,

794
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: lovely check, isn't it? Doctor? They are wealthy because of you.

795
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 3: You made them rich. Doctor. It was your formula. Tonight.

796
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: They gave you five thousand dollars and wanted you to

797
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 3: come down to their house and thank them for it.

798
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 3: That was your money. They gave you, like a bone

799
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 3: tossed to a faithful dog. And we get some very

800
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 3: good facial expressions from Bella here. First he looks sad,

801
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: and then it turns into a grimace, and then it

802
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: turns into maniacal laughter and then straight into a furious glower.

803
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 3: He is ready now to send the bats, so he

804
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 3: goes down into the secret passageway. He goes to his

805
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: mutant bat and he says, tonight, you have work to do,

806
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: and the bat flies out.

807
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. And I think the bat flying looks pretty good. Though.

808
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: There's going to be a plot element that kind of

809
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 2: tarnishes the effect a bit later on.

810
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So first we see Don and Mary out

811
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: in the garden on a bench. Remember they were the

812
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: ones who were going to get engaged. This part I

813
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: found incredibly perplexing. Don says, you know, while our families

814
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: are here, tonight is a good time to announce our engagement,

815
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: and Mary says to him, looke, Don, I love you,

816
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: I've loved you since we were kids, but not in

817
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: that way. You're more like a brother to me. And

818
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 3: I was like, what, how did you get to the

819
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 3: point of thinking they were gonna be engaged?

820
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, he seemed exceedingly sure of this. Yeah so

821
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: this was yeah, this is a real head scratcher.

822
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 3: But he takes it well. He doesn't get mad or anything.

823
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 3: He's just like, oh, okay, fair enough.

824
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like we needed more information. Why was this

825
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: miscommunication in place where they betrothed? What was going on here?

826
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:22,479
Speaker 2: The idea?

827
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: Okay? But yeah, Don takes it well, He's like okay.

828
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: Then meanwhile, nearby Mary's brother, Roy, the guy who put

829
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: the lotion on his throat, he arrives home, gets out

830
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: of his car and is immediately dive bombed by a

831
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 3: bat and we don't see a lot of it. I mean,

832
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 3: we see the bat flying, and we see sort of

833
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 3: a dark dive bomb thing, but it's not like we

834
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: get like a clear close up.

835
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: Eventually, we'll probably watch Life Force for Weird House Cinema

836
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: and we'll have to compare the dive bombing bat sequences.

837
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 2: I think they have some of these in Fright Night

838
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: as well, right in there, dive bombing bat scene in

839
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 2: that that sounds right. Yeah.

840
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: Oh, and so you know, the hear Hi's and marian

841
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: Don come running and they find Roy in the driveway

842
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: there and they're like, call doctor Carruthers. Good. So you know,

843
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: Carrothers comes to check on him and they have both

844
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: families gathered around him as he's lying there in the driveway,

845
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: and there's a dialogue exchange that goes like this. Carrothers says,

846
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: there's nothing I can do, and Heath says, you mean

847
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 3: he's dead. Car Others says, yes, I'd better call the coroner.

848
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 3: Heath says, you think it's murder? Carro other says, I

849
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: don't know. I never saw anything like it. Before the

850
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: jugular vein is severed, they all look down. It cuts

851
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 3: to black, and this is where the news media comes

852
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 3: into play. Yeah, but because everybody trusts Carruthers, I mean,

853
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: of course we should have.

854
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they tell us this a lot. They're always like,

855
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: everybody trusts corrects, everyone loves Corunthers, the community loves him.

856
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 2: We're given very little in addition to that to make

857
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: us believe this is the case, because come on, it's

858
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: bell Legosi. Uh, Like he brings that aura here. We

859
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: don't really see him doing like nice things for the community.

860
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 2: He just wants to do terrifying experiments in his laboratory.

861
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's acting incredibly suspicious from the first scene.

862
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, but all right, fair enough, nobody suspects him. All right.

863
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: So it's time to meet some new characters at the

864
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 3: offices of a newspaper, the Chicago Register. So it shows

865
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 3: a busy, bustling newsroom. We're two guys on the floor

866
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 3: of the newsroom throwing punches. Looked like it, but then

867
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: it cuts away quick.

868
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah it's you know, it's a scrappy environment. They're having fun,

869
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: they're working hard, they're playing hard.

870
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: And so we're going to meet a couple of characters here.

871
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 3: The assignment editor McGinty who Again, he's your classic large

872
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: cigar chewing police chief slash newspaper editors. He's telling the

873
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: cop or reporter, you're a loose cannon. You're off the force.

874
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: Here's your new partner. And in fact, we get all

875
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,479
Speaker 3: three of those in this movie.

876
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I do like the elements too, though with

877
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: our newspaper editor here, who is like we got to

878
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: remember the Heath company. It's a big account, you know,

879
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: big advertising accounts for the paper. So they do interject

880
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: a little bit of like realistic news room politics.

881
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: Here, well kind of, but I didn't understand the dynamics.

882
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought that was interesting. They're like, Heath

883
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: is a big advertising account, so you've got to go

884
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 3: to Heathville. You've got to get a photo a photographer

885
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: to go with you, go to Heathville and do a

886
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 3: big sensational news story about his son's unsolved mutant bat murder.

887
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean that part makes less sense. It

888
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 2: would be it would be more realistic where it's like, Okay,

889
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: you're going you're going up there, but make sure you

890
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: play it really respectful. We've got to cover this. But

891
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: they're a huge advertiser. So again, some things are maybe

892
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: lost in the message here.

893
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: I mean normally, if there's like a big industry mogul

894
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 3: who has a child with an their adult child is

895
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: killed in an unsolved murder, you want the National Inquirer

896
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 3: up there getting into it.

897
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they send the a team, as we'll see.

898
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 3: That's right. So our hero here is Johnny Layden. He's

899
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 3: a scrappy reporter who's always causing trouble. Somebody's always calling

900
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 3: the to get him fired, but you know what, he

901
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 3: gets results. And McGinty explains, there's this mystery killing in Heathville.

902
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: It's old Martin Heath's son. He wants Layden looking into it.

903
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: Leyton is unfamiliar. He's like, who's Martin Heath? And McGinty

904
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: this was also weird. McGuinty's like, who's Martin Heath?

905
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: Say?

906
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 3: Have you ever had a date with a girl? And

907
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 3: Leyden says, you know, he might have had one at

908
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 3: some point and McGinty says, well did she smell sweet?

909
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: If so, that's because of Martin Heath Cosmetics Limited. They

910
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 3: make all that goo that women put on their faces.

911
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: So is the premise here that Heath is the only

912
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 3: perfume and cosmetics company in the world and invented and

913
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: has exclusive rights to the concept of makeup and perfume.

914
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: I don't know.

915
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 3: I guess they're just a major player anyway. So Layton

916
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 3: goes to Heathville. He takes along with him a photographer.

917
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: As he was told to. This character has a great name.

918
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: It's one Shot McGuire. One shot McGuire is a bow

919
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: tie guy who keeps his suit jacket buttoned. He has

920
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 3: a kind of he's a little bit more nerdy than Layton,

921
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 3: but also has he's kind of got a nerdy but

922
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: rascally temperament to match Layton's.

923
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know from the title, I'm not

924
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: sure is he if he's supposed to be a really

925
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: good photographer or just a really sloppy photographer, Like, oh,

926
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: did you get pictures of the sporting event? I got

927
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 2: one shot? Does that mean you only needed one like

928
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: perfect shot, first take? Or you just really don't care?

929
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: He just like good enough.

930
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know. Yeah, So if it's a writer and

931
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: they call you like first draft maguire, what does that

932
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: mean that.

933
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: Good yeah, nailed it first draft? Well, I guess sometimes

934
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: it works like that, but one has right to be suspicious.

935
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 3: So our two reporters go to Heathville. They meet the

936
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 3: police chief there and they begin the inquest, and the

937
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: police chief admits that they have not gotten very far

938
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 3: with the investigation, but that Roy Heath suffered the strangest wounds.

939
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 3: He had shallow slashes in his throat, too deep for

940
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: fingernails and not deep enough to be a knife. And

941
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 3: then the coroner says that they could have been the

942
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 3: talons of a bird, a bird, but the sheriff says

943
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: they know that it wasn't a bird because they found

944
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: several hairs on the shoulder of Heath's coat, so it

945
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 3: couldn't have been a bird.

946
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 2: Soide note that there's gonna be a lot of dialogue

947
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: in this film related to the idea that people think

948
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: bats are birds, yes, and need to be corrected on

949
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: the matter.

950
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: Multiple characters have to correct I think doctor Carruthers and

951
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 3: Layton are frequently correcting people on calling bats birds.

952
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody knows exactly what a bat is, but.

953
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 3: They say that the hairs on the coat they're not human.

954
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: Lab tests showed that they came from a mouse, and

955
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 3: Layton says, say a bat has hair like a mouse.

956
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 3: What if it was a bat? And I don't know,

957
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: I call bs. I think that is too extreme of

958
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 3: a bull's eye connection there, unless Layton has like undisclosed

959
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 3: psychic powers or something. Another clue though, They say there

960
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: was a peculiar odor about the wounds, but the police

961
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 3: were unable to identify it, and now it has been

962
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: destroyed by evaporation. So we're going to go on to

963
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: the meeting with Mary that the reporters are continuing the

964
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 3: investigation the share there. The police chief is just like,

965
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: oh yeah, sure, look into it. You know, you'll get

966
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 3: no objection from me, which is kind of unusual for

967
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 3: these films. I feel like it's always a territorial squabble

968
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 3: about who gets to investigate. So the newspaperman go to

969
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 3: the Heath residence. Of course, it's immediately clear that Leyden

970
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 3: and Mary are going to fall in love, and then

971
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 3: there's a secondary romance as well, because Mary's got the

972
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 3: French maid, the gorgeous French maid named Maxine, who's running

973
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 3: around saying we metemoiselle and apparently she is just wild

974
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 3: for photo journal East and from their very first introduction,

975
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: one shot maguire is saying, yes, I will marry this

976
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: French maid. And now they've got competing theories about the murder.

977
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 3: They ask, you know, did this guy have any enemies?

978
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: Not really? Was it an animal attack? Carruthers says, yeah,

979
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: it was a wild animal who attacked him, but Leyden says,

980
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 3: I don't think so. And this sort of leads into

981
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: this middle section of the movie that's more just sort

982
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 3: of investigating the murders and more murders taking place. So

983
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 3: there is a murder of another one of the Suns.

984
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 3: This time it's a guy named Tommy. Legosi gives him

985
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 3: the lotion to try, and Tommy puts it on and

986
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: he's like, ooh, that feels great, very very soothing, and

987
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: Legosi says, I don't think you will ever use anything else.

988
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 3: So he's, you know, walking around with the lotion on,

989
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 3: and he gets attacked by a bat in the garden patio.

990
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 3: Now at this bad attack, the journalists witness it, they

991
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 3: see it happen, and so they try to report on it.

992
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 3: They call it McGinty. They're like, yeah, he was attacked

993
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 3: by a devil bat. McGuinty doesn't believe them at first,

994
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 3: but then he does run with their story and the

995
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: headline is mysterious Devil Bat kills Thomas Heath. I do

996
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 3: like this movie shows us lots of newspaper headlines.

997
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. My one disappointment was I couldn't make any of

998
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 2: the lower headlines out. You know, that's always there's always

999
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 2: a lot of fun there, especially in like parodies on

1000
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: the Simpson like what the stories that didn't make the

1001
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: very top because of whatever supernatural shenanigans are going on.

1002
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 3: I feel like multiple times we see a newspaper and

1003
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 3: there's another article with the headline praise from cheerleaders.

1004
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: Hmm okay, otherwise a slow news day.

1005
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 3: Oh and then they show a second paper that says

1006
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: who will be the Devil Bat's next victim? Villagers cringe

1007
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 3: and terror of murderer. Oh and another one of the

1008
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 3: articles it has the headline pericles the great.

1009
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 2: What Yeah, local theater.

1010
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know Laura mipsum. So anyway, there's this

1011
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 3: whole middle section where they've seen the Devil Bat. But

1012
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 3: McGinty's like, hey, I need a photo. We got to

1013
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 3: run a photo. So they stage a hoax photo using

1014
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 3: a stuffed bat from a taxidermy shop.

1015
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 2: Yes, I loved and hated this because it's just such

1016
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: a weird, wacky element that suddenly, like journalists contact, he's

1017
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: out the window and they're gonna fake this shot. But

1018
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: then it does feel, from a filmmaking standpoint like kind

1019
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 2: of an error because, let's face it, these bat effects,

1020
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: I think they're pretty great considering the budget and the

1021
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 2: time period. But when you also introduce a fake, fake

1022
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: bat into the scenario, that fake bat looks too much

1023
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,959
Speaker 2: like the actual bat, Yes, and it makes me second

1024
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: guess the effects on some level. So I didn't like that.

1025
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 3: Same thought the hoax bat looks the same as the

1026
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: real devil bat.

1027
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like if somebody wears a monster mask in

1028
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: a movie that also features a monster, that monster mask

1029
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: can't look too good and your actual monster effects better

1030
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 2: be like a cut above.

1031
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah so this. Oh, but also this movie

1032
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 3: has a debunking scene. So the hoax photo is debunked

1033
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 3: by a skeptical scientist on a national radio program, and

1034
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 3: it shows just like everybody in the country sitting around

1035
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 3: listening to this radio program. They introduce a scientist named

1036
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 3: Professor Percival Garland rains whom the announcer calls the world's

1037
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 3: greatest authority on animals and rains says that devil bats

1038
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 3: may have existed in the dark ages when people lived

1039
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 3: in caves, but not anymore. And he has proof that

1040
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 3: the photo is a fake. He analyzed it under a

1041
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: magnifying glass, and he says the bat has a tag

1042
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 3: on it which says made in Japan. But I was thinking,

1043
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 3: wait a minute, what if the real devil bat is

1044
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: simply a manufactured object, you know, created by magic.

1045
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: How did they get a fake bats manufactured? Yeah, either

1046
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: across the ocean or like, are they selling these at

1047
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 2: the local store? Did just so many questions arise from this.

1048
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 3: I would have thought that taxidermy bats would be a

1049
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 3: more locally produced article. Yeah, oh hey, folks were back.

1050
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 3: We had to just take a break in the middle

1051
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 3: of our recording session. But but now we are in

1052
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 3: real time a few hours later, continuing our discussion of

1053
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 3: the devil bat. So where did we leave off it

1054
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 3: was where? Oh, they just pulled off the hoax and

1055
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: they got caught. They got caught by the radio guy.

1056
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they attempted to do the fake photo. And

1057
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 2: is it now or in just a little bit where

1058
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 2: like basically it's like, I gotta fire you guys, this

1059
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: is awful, and they're like, you can't fire us because

1060
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: we're onto this great case. We're going to keep working it.

1061
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 3: That's right. So McGinty. They're on the phone with McGuinty,

1062
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 3: the chief the editor, and he fires Leyton and one

1063
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 3: shot McGuire though I guess they did conspire, so fair enough. Yeah,

1064
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: and obviously this is not the first time he has

1065
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: fired them. They even say so. They're like, you'll hire

1066
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 3: us back. You always do. But the real downside they

1067
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 3: don't seem all that upset about getting fired. The real

1068
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 3: downside is there now on the outs with their new

1069
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 3: lady friends, Mary and Maxine are not happy with them

1070
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: for doing a hoax, especially since this hoax involves the

1071
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 3: creature that allegedly killed their brothers and family friends and

1072
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 3: so forth and almost fiance.

1073
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like a massive misstep, especially on that angle.

1074
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 3: But Layton's a real go getter. He doesn't let this

1075
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 3: put him to bed. He keeps investigating and he finds

1076
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: out about the history of Corruthers and the Heath Company.

1077
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 3: He finds out the Coruthers missed out on getting part

1078
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: of the Heath Company fortune by just being being paid

1079
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 3: in cash instead. And there's some notes somewhere in here

1080
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 3: about like a chemist examines the Legosi lotion and finds

1081
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 3: out that it has a previously unknown element in it

1082
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: that could not be identified. I love this detail. It

1083
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 3: seems a bit much. But Bella explains that the otherwise

1084
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: unknown element was something he found in Tibet, which the

1085
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 3: Lamas use in their ceremonies.

1086
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay, I don't know what those ceremonies

1087
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 2: could be if it gets bats riled up in the scenario,

1088
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 2: but okay, fair enough.

1089
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,479
Speaker 3: Anyway, so En goes to confront Legosi with questions about

1090
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 3: all this stuff that they take him some of the

1091
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 3: aftershape to analyze, I believe, and Legosi is like, oh,

1092
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 3: you know, to the chief of police and to Leyden,

1093
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 3: why didn't you both each take a bottle of this

1094
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 3: stuff home with you and use it.

1095
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: Now?

1096
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 3: The chief of police he's having none of it. He says,

1097
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 3: if my wife ever smelled perfume on me, she'd suspect me. Sure,

1098
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 3: so he won't take it. But Leyton he's like, yeah, sure,

1099
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 3: I'll take some and of course he gets attacked later

1100
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 3: that night while he is sitting out in the garden

1101
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 3: with one shot. But this actually works out to their

1102
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: benefit because Leyden pulls a revolver out of his coat pocket,

1103
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 3: shoots the devil bat, kills the devil bat. So the

1104
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: devil Bat wasn't I don't know all that threatening. In

1105
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 3: the end, they get destroyed by rather mundane means, and

1106
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 3: then it's the biggest story on all the newspapers. The

1107
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 3: headline is reporter kills devil bat, subhead shoots monster.

1108
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: Well, I wondered, did he write this story for the paper?

1109
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: That seems like it would be a massive misstep as well,

1110
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 2: But I don't think he would. He would probably fight

1111
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: for it. He's like, look, I killed the devil Bat,

1112
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: I should get to write the article. Yes, I can

1113
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: maintain my journalistic integrity. Yes, I did just try and

1114
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: fake a bat photo.

1115
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 3: Do you see the article underneath shoots monster is called Americanism.

1116
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: I was trying to figure out or if the Americanism

1117
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: is part of the monster shooting or is this a

1118
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: separate like article. There's a subsection somebody's like Weekly Callum

1119
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 2: on Americanism in.

1120
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 3: A classic display of americanism. The reporter has shot the

1121
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 3: devil bat. But you know now that they've actually got

1122
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 3: a real dead devil bat corpse in hand, and not

1123
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 3: just a taxidermid object, they can prove they were right

1124
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 3: all along. So everybody has to eat crow. There's another

1125
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: radio program with the remember the skeptic professor rains. He

1126
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 3: comes back. He's like, look, I was wrong. The devil

1127
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 3: bat does exist and it is the last of its kind,

1128
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 3: a giant bat from the Neolithic age, which he explains

1129
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 3: is another word for the Stone Age. Thank you, professor.

1130
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 2: Of course, we know this is not true. We know

1131
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 2: that this bat is not an ancient creature. It is

1132
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 2: newly cooked up in Lagosi's microwave.

1133
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 3: But how but he's the foremost authority on animals.

1134
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean maybe he recognizes the process that's

1135
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 2: going on, but he doesn't understand the technology involved.

1136
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 3: Shows how much you know, professor, Get out of your

1137
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 3: ivory tower. You don't even know about Bella Legosi's bat microwave.

1138
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 3: So Bella has to cook up another bat from the freezer,

1139
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 3: which he does. He gets it out and he cooks

1140
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 3: it with the electricity, and then he goes and checks

1141
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 3: the bat with the stethoscope and he's smiling. He says, splendid,

1142
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 3: you will be even greater than your unfortunate predecessor, and

1143
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 3: then the bat screams in stock footage and he's like enraged,

1144
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 3: aren't you fine? I'm enraged also tonight I shall call

1145
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 3: on Henry Morton and you shall strike him down. So

1146
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 3: we get another scene, another one of these classic scenes

1147
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 3: of Bella convincing somebody to put the lotion on their skin.

1148
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: He goes to the offices of Heath Cosmetics where he's

1149
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 3: showing everything to Morton, the big boss, and he's like,

1150
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 3: you know, my lotion's so good, try it out, and

1151
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 3: Morton says, no, I'll try it tomorrow after I shave,

1152
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 3: you know, because it's after shave. He says, quote, then

1153
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 3: my skin will be more tender and receptive to the lotion.

1154
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 3: And Legosi is like, yeah, why not try it now?

1155
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 3: See you can put it right over the jugular vein

1156
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 3: where the skin is always tender and receptive to a lotion.

1157
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 3: Once again comments about isn't it too strong? He's like, no, no, no,

1158
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 3: it'll evaporate quickly. So he sort of bullies Morton into

1159
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 3: putting the lotion on his throat. Then Morton starts gloating

1160
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 3: about how all of the doctor's formulas have been highly

1161
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 3: successful and it was quite foolish of him to take

1162
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 3: cash for his work instead of a cut of the profits.

1163
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 3: Otherwise he would be he would be a rich man. Now,

1164
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 3: So you're not feeling that bad for Morton's just being

1165
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 3: a jerk.

1166
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, yeah, he is, he absolutely So he does

1167
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: seem a bit oblivious too, Like, so he's not I

1168
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: don't know, it's a weird mix of him being kind

1169
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 2: of like accidentally jerky and still a bit maliciously jerky.

1170
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're right. He's like, huh, isn't it funny?

1171
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 3: You're the one that did the work, but I got

1172
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 3: rich and that that's funny, isn't it.

1173
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then he continues here as Legosi keeps making

1174
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 2: even more like cutting and suggestive comments that imply that

1175
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 2: he has been murdering people with bats.

1176
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. So he's like, you know, you've had

1177
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 3: a lot of fun in your laboratory with your experiments,

1178
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 3: dreaming up something new. You're a dreamer, doc. Money's bad

1179
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 3: for dreamers, and Legosi is just dissecting Morton's brain with

1180
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 3: his eyes, and Legosi tells more tells Morton that his

1181
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 3: feeble intellect cannot begin to comprehend the magnitude of his

1182
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 3: scientific discoveries. Morton's like, what discovery are you talking about?

1183
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: And he says, when you find out, Henry, it will

1184
01:01:54,720 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 3: be too late for you anyway, good night. Oh and

1185
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 3: also before he leaves, he mentioned something about having already

1186
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 3: proved his discovery three times. There have been three murders.

1187
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this still doesn't instantly sink in for Morton.

1188
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 3: It takes a minute.

1189
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 2: It takes a minute.

1190
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 3: Morton starts thinking about that and he's like, huh. So

1191
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 3: he puts in a phone call to Martin Heath and

1192
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 3: he's like, I think I've got a clue to solve

1193
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 3: the murders. He says, if half of what I suspect

1194
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 3: is true, it's the most diabolical plot then a madman

1195
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 3: ever concocted. So they're both out driving on a dark

1196
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 3: road and Legosi leaves first, and he's also going to

1197
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 3: Martin Heath's house. But Legosi gets there before Morton and

1198
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 3: he parks. He opens the trunk of his car and

1199
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 3: a bat just screams and flies out of the trunk,

1200
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 3: and so of course right after this, Morton arrives. But

1201
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 3: the bat it gets him. It devil bats him. Now,

1202
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 3: in this case, a bunch of the guys in the

1203
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 3: house like they don't I think they don't see the bat,

1204
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 3: but they see Morton like he's banging on the door,

1205
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 3: screaming for help, and they go and open the door

1206
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 3: and he just like collapses into the foyer dead, and

1207
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 3: you know, they're like, oh, whoop's another one. So we

1208
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 3: see a newspaper headline again, call and it's Devil Bat's

1209
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 3: mate kills Henry Morton. Yeah, don't how do they know

1210
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 3: it's his mate?

1211
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? I feel like that that headline the editor was

1212
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 2: playing it up a little bit like, let's get a

1213
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 2: love angle in.

1214
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 3: Here between the bats, bride of devil Bat.

1215
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was probably one of the candidates.

1216
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 3: Oh and while it's showing us all the headlines this

1217
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 3: time this has happened before, it's like superimposing the shots

1218
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 3: of the newspaper with that footage of close up footage

1219
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 3: of a bat face. So who's the next victim going

1220
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 3: to be? Well, we see a silhouette of Bella Lagosi

1221
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 3: wearing a hat in the dark room with the bottle

1222
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 3: of his formula and he's surreptitiously adding it to something.

1223
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 3: What could it be? Well, after the scene, we get

1224
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 3: a scene where Leyton Leyton is addressing Martin Heath, Mary

1225
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 3: Legosi and one Shot maguire and he explains he's very

1226
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 3: glad that mister Heath invited him to come live in

1227
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 3: their home until Devil Bat two is defeated, because he's

1228
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 3: worried about Mary, right, you know, he thinks she may

1229
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 3: be targeted next. It's logical, but Heath hasn't quite caught

1230
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 3: on yet. He's like, why would you think that? And

1231
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 3: Leydon explains, well, the other victims were members of the

1232
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 3: Morton and Heath families. Therefore, he concludes that someone is

1233
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 3: using the bat to wipe out these two families. Legosi,

1234
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 3: of course, claims this is preposterous. He says the thought

1235
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 3: of a human controlling a bat is fantastical, and as

1236
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 3: a counterexample, he points out that even one Shot McGuire

1237
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 3: was attacked by a bat, and he's not a Heather

1238
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 3: or a Morton, so that's a good point. But one

1239
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 3: Shot McGuire argues, now wait a second, I'm basically a

1240
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 3: member of this family because I am definitely going to

1241
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 3: get married to the French maid.

1242
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, that works out.

1243
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 3: So they all say they're good nights, and then Legosi

1244
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 3: once again does it instance you know, Mary says good

1245
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 3: night to him and he says good by Mary. So

1246
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 3: later we see Mary getting ready for bed. She wonders

1247
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 3: if Maxine has filled her perfume bottles with something new,

1248
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 3: because there is a strong, smelling new fragrance in them.

1249
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 3: Maxine denies it, and Mary concludes that it must have

1250
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 3: been her father, who apparently secretly switcheroose her perfume every

1251
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 3: time his factory produces a new one. That's a bold move. Also,

1252
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 3: she's putting on perfume to go to bed.

1253
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't need Maybe she skipped a shower,

1254
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 2: I don't I don't really know what the rules here,

1255
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: and maybe that was the thing in the forties or

1256
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 2: maybe people do that.

1257
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what people do with perfume. Do people

1258
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 3: put on perfume to go to bed?

1259
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 2: Maybe they do? After this nitty though, you'll never put

1260
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 2: on perfume before you go to bed again.

1261
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, So anyway, so Mary goes to bed and we

1262
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 3: see the bat fly out and what's going to happen.

1263
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 3: Of course, you know it's going to come to her room,

1264
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 3: but it actually doesn't get in. It like zooms through

1265
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 3: the night, screeching until it reaches Mary's window and then

1266
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 3: it's just there banging against the window and she wakes

1267
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 3: up alarms. All the dudes come running and Mary survives

1268
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 3: the night. But the next morning there's an investigation what

1269
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 3: could have happened, and they discover the perfume switch. So Leyden,

1270
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 3: he's finally putting all the pieces together here. He thinks

1271
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 3: he's figured out the case, and he comes up with

1272
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 3: a plan. He's like, Okay, we're gonna lie to Carrothers

1273
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 3: and make him think that Mary was injured or perhaps

1274
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 3: driven insane by the bat, and then we're going to

1275
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 3: trick him into coming over to the house and then

1276
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 3: stall him here for time. Meanwhile, Leyden's gonna run around

1277
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 3: and do what he calls a little private bat hunting.

1278
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Speaker 3: What this really means is he's going up to Carruther's

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Speaker 3: lab to snoop around. He does that and he finds

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Speaker 3: the secret passageway and goes into the bat dungeon.

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Speaker 2: All right, So now all is becoming revealed.

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Speaker 3: But the others don't do a great job at their

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Speaker 3: part of this plan. So like they're trying to stall

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Speaker 3: Corrothers at the house and he's trying to leave if

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Speaker 3: he needs to get back to his lab, and one

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Speaker 3: shot Maguire like, I don't feel so good. You ought

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Speaker 3: to see my tongue. It looks like a squirrel's tail.

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Speaker 3: But Carrothers just advises him to take a mercury compound.

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Speaker 3: And so Carrothers goes back to the lab. There's some

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Speaker 3: cat and mouse there with Leyden sneaking around while Carrothers is,

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Speaker 3: you know, doing things, and Leyden witnesses carr others talking

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Speaker 3: to his bats. So there's there's no going back now

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Speaker 3: he knows what's up. I think he's going to let

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Speaker 3: them out for the night, because if you interpreted this

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Speaker 3: the same way, Rob, I think he thinks the jig

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Speaker 3: is up and he doesn't want the bats around if

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Speaker 3: somebody comes snooping.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, let him go like flush the bats

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Speaker 2: down the toe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And so Leyden sneaks around around the house,

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Speaker 3: knocks on the front door and he asks for some

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Speaker 3: of the shaving lotion. He says he thinks that if

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Speaker 3: he douses himself in it, it might attract the killer

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Speaker 3: Legosi plays dumb, but you know, gives him the bottle anyway,

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Speaker 3: and Leyden dabs some around his throat and he really

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Speaker 3: gets it up in there, and he's plains his plan

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Speaker 3: is to go sit in the garden and quote, when

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Speaker 3: the killer bat does one of its power dives, I'll

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Speaker 3: blast it, which is what he did last time. So

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Speaker 3: I guess he's planning to do this again. Maybe he's

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Speaker 3: hoping there are only two bats total. And so Carrothers

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Speaker 3: agrees to come along and watch this experiment. So they

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Speaker 3: have a little tense conversation in the garden at night.

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Speaker 3: They're a little apprehensive, or at least Corrothers is. They

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Speaker 3: trade some comments with heavy implication that maybe they understand

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Speaker 3: one another's motives. And then suddenly, at one point in

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Speaker 3: the conversation, Leyden just like tosses a bunch of the

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Speaker 3: shaving lotion on her Others and then reveals that he

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Speaker 3: knows the whole plot. And so at first Carothers seems

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Speaker 3: weirdly kind of gloomy. He just kind of accepts his fate,

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Speaker 3: but then tries to make a break for it, Like

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Speaker 3: he tries to grab and wrestle the gun from Leyden,

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Speaker 3: but the devil Bat appears and everybody scatters.

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Speaker 2: Right right, And you know what's going to happen next.

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Speaker 2: What is the comeuppance of any mad scientist that creates monsters?

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Speaker 3: Oh, of course, foiled by his own monster. Yeah, not foil,

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Speaker 3: so carruthers. Well, first he tries to trick Mary into

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Speaker 3: coming back to his lab, but he doesn't make it

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Speaker 3: gets he gets devil Bat dive bombed in the garden

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Speaker 3: on the way there, and so then Leyden comes and

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Speaker 3: has to explain to Mary. I laughed out loud at

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Speaker 3: this part where he's like, the devil Bat belonged to him, Mary,

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Speaker 3: he committed those murders. And then Mary just lays her

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Speaker 3: head on Leyden's shoulder, and then it's the end title,

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Speaker 3: the end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, check on the doctor, and they're like,

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Speaker 2: I don't think the doc made. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I love the abruptness with which these older movies end.

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01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 3: It's just the bad guy dies, the leading lady like

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01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 3: kisses or lays her head on the shoulder of the

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01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 3: leading man, and then you get title card the end,

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Speaker 3: all within twenty seconds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's been over an hour. People need

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01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 2: to get home from the theater and or they need

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01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: to watch the next movie that's playing immediately after this one.

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Speaker 2: But I think All Things Considered is a pretty good

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01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 2: final showdown, like with the back and forth between the

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01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 2: hero and the villain. You know, sometimes they're even more

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Speaker 2: by the books than this. Just we definitely watched some

1350
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 2: of those and talked about them on Weird House Cinema

1351
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 2: where it's like Bady gets makes a break for it

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01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 2: and is shot by the police. Monster is shot by

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01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: the police, Monster is killed by.

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Speaker 3: The military.

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01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: Military arrives, Clint Eastwood is in a jet play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Tarantula.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this one, this one is a little more

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01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 2: thought out than that and a little less by the numbers.

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Speaker 2: But then it does have that classic abrupt thirties and

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01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 2: forties ending, which yeah, I mean, it cleans it up nicely.

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Speaker 2: It's just like Bam, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Nothing could destroy the monster except the power of explosives.

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Speaker 2: And it's just so ridiculous that, granted years later, someone

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01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,560
Speaker 2: would say I got an idea for a sequel to

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01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 2: this picture. What if he didn't do those murders. The

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01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 2: whole movie was about him doing the murders. It's not

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Speaker 2: in question.

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Speaker 3: I've almost got to watch that now. Oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's fun. I don't know. I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't have legosy. Oh.

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Speaker 3: It's called Devil Bat's Daughter.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is, which is weird because she's not

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Speaker 2: the daughter of the Devil Bat. She's Carrother's daughter.

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Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, the poster makes it look like

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01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 3: a Western.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. It's supposedly yeah, less of a

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Speaker 2: horror film. And it has Miss America from nineteen forty

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01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 2: one in it. So oh, it's got that going for it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, So there you have it. Devil Bat, the

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Speaker 2: Devil Bat, sorry except no substitutes. Yeah, this is a

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Speaker 2: it's a surprisingly fun watchable flick. Moved right along, had

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Speaker 2: some fun performances in it.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we really shouldn't stop here. We should

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Speaker 3: just keep going with Killer Bat movies and find them,

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Speaker 3: rank them, discuss what they have in common, the themes

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Speaker 3: they address. To what extent was Devil Bat really about

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01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 3: the bats? And to what extent. Was it really about

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01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 3: pride and lotion?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it essentially is about pride and lotion,

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Speaker 2: much like Breaking Bad. His Breaking Bad is not really

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01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 2: about the math, it's about other things. But undeniably a

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Speaker 2: giant bat movie. So yeah, I'd be interesting to look

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Speaker 2: and see what all we have to consider in terms

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Speaker 2: of other giant bad films, aside from the ones we

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Speaker 2: already mentioned, like Life Force and possibly Friday Night. Oh

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Speaker 2: what do you know?

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Speaker 3: The British Film Institute website has a list of ten

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Speaker 3: great bat films.

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Speaker 2: Oh, excellent, just straight up bat films, not like bad

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01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 2: human hybrids, because that's the kind of another subgenre which

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01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 2: I can think of at least one really good example there.

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Speaker 3: But oh, one of the examples is Abominable Doctor Fibes

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01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 3: because remember one of the guys gets attacked by bats.

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01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 2: Oh that's right. Yeah, I mean, if you have vampires

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01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 2: in your film, there's a very good chance you're can

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01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 2: have bats. There's a good chance is going to turn

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Speaker 2: into a bat or bats, And yeah, I'm here for it.

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Speaker 3: All right. I think that does it for this one.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll gohe and close it out. But just

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Speaker 2: a reminder that stuff to Blow Your Mind is primarily

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Speaker 2: a science and culture podcast. Asked core episodes on Tuesdays

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Speaker 2: and Thursdays, but on Fridays we set aside most serious

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Speaker 2: concerns to just talk about a weird film on Weird

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Speaker 2: House Cinema. If you want to see a list of

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Speaker 2: all the episodes we've done over the years, look us

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Speaker 2: T E R B O x D dot com. Our

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Speaker 2: profile is weird House and we got a list right there.

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Speaker 2: You can look at it, look at all the fun

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Speaker 2: you know, box arts and poster arts. You can arrange

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Speaker 2: things by decade and see what we've gotten into what

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Speaker 2: we haven't gotten into. Write in with your suggestions because

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Speaker 2: we always want to hear what kind of films you'd

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Speaker 2: like us to talk about, and we also want your

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Speaker 2: feedback on the films that we've discussed. If you have

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Speaker 2: a history with the Devil bat If, so let us

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