1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,359 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The You've Got a Friend in 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Me addition, as we have the unique opportunity to listen 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: in to the start of a friendship between the Bengals 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: new left tackle Orlando Brown Junior and the NFL's all 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: time best left tackle Anthony Munos, plus a little contract 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: talk from Joe Burrow and T Higgins. The Bengals Booth 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: Podcast is brought to you by Kettering Health, the official 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: healthcare provider of the Bengals. 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As 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: you almost certainly know by now, Joe Burrow showed up 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: for practice this week wearing a headband and it created 19 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: quite the social media stir. In fact, I want to 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: invest in a headband company. I suspect every kid in 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: Cincinnati is going to be wearing one soon. But in 22 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: all seriousness, it's one of the things I admire most 23 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: about the Bengals quarterback. He is totally comfortable in his 24 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: own skin, whether it's wearing unusual clothing as he walks 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: into the stadium or expressing his opinion on issues that 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: he finds important. Joe trust his instincts. There's a lesson 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: there for all of us. Speaking of Burrow, he met 28 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: with reporters on Tuesday for the first time since the 29 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: AFC Championship game, and naturally was asked about his contract negotiations. 30 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: You know, I'm involved's and it's in the works. 31 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: That's uh really something that I like to play out 32 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: in the media. That's something just the way I think 33 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: they want to do business. I want to do business. 34 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: We prefer to keep that between us. 35 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact. Way of discussing it certainly 36 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: makes it appear that Joe expects a deal to get 37 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: done this offseason, much like the contract extensions given to 38 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and Lamar Jackson. It's obviously the number one 39 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: off season objective for the Bengals, but they would also 40 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: like to extend t Higgins and Logan Wilson this year 41 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: and Jamar Chase next year. Burrow is well aware of 42 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: how his deal could impact the ability to retain others. 43 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: You know, whenever you have guys on the team that 44 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: I need to be paid, that's always on your mind. 45 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: You want that to be a focal point, and so 46 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: we're working to make that happen. 47 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: I feel very confident in saying that a Burrow extension 48 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: is not a matter of if. But when the Bengal 49 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: Booth podcast is brought to you by Bengals Picks and 50 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: Ultimate Bengals, they're free to play, with tickets and signed 51 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: merchandise up for grabs. Find both inside the Bengals app. 52 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: The most recent collective bargaining agreement between NFL owners and 53 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: players splits off season activities into three phases, and the 54 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: Bengals began Phase two this week. Phase one is basically 55 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: limited to working out and holding meetings. In Phase two, 56 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: the players start doing some limited football activities. It's still 57 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: voluntary for veterans at this point, but nearly all of 58 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals key players were in attendance, including Higgins. He 59 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: discussed his presence and his contract negotiations with reporters. 60 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: See a lot of guys that are in contract situations 61 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: like yours may not be in something like this. 62 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 4: Why is it important for you to be here? 63 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 5: To be honest with you, I'm here to get working man. 64 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 5: At the end of the day, I love the game. 65 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 5: You know, whatever happens when my contract happens, I'm not 66 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 5: worried about that right now. But hopefully we can get 67 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 5: something done soon. But right now, I'm just here to work. 68 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Joe talks about whenever he's going through negotiations, 69 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: he's keeping you and jam more in mind for next year. 70 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 4: What's a life when your. 71 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: Quarterback is saying? 72 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: When it's kind of his money works out, he. 73 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 5: Just tells everybody he want to keep his letters around, 74 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 5: you know, and hopefully we can do that and you. 75 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: Know, keep goodter from here. 76 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not something that y'all talk about a time. 77 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 6: I mean, how much y'all kind of as a trio 78 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 6: talk about it because y'all ever one. 79 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 5: Hopentially we're talking about staying together, you know, for the 80 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 5: long run, and hopefully we can do that and hopefully 81 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 5: we can get something, you know, negotiated to where he 82 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 5: can keep all three of us. 83 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: How involved are you? 84 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 5: I just I just just I'm just here, you know, 85 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 5: doing my thing, working out. 86 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: I let them do what they need to do, you 87 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 88 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: So sore you trying not to worry about it and 89 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: keep it out of your hat on. 90 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just keep my head, you know, keep my 91 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 5: head clear and not trying to worry about you know, 92 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 5: contract stuff, and just trying to better my my game. 93 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 5: So it's not hard though, I mean not really because 94 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 5: at the end of the day, I'm here to play football. 95 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 5: So obviously I want to make money, but at the 96 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 5: end of the day, I'm here to play the game 97 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 5: I love. 98 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: She got out. 99 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 4: A lot of people in your position would the off 100 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: season program? What happened to all the league? Why did 101 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: you want to be here? 102 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 5: I mean I love the game, man, you know, I 103 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 5: wanted to come in and work. I mean I live here, 104 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 5: insisting that why not be here and work out? You 105 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, for free So I mean, at 106 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 5: the end of the day, I'm just here to get 107 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 5: my work in for you. 108 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 4: Is there a message in that too, like, Hey, I'm here. 109 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 5: Not necessarily I mean, I mean people can put it 110 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 5: that way. At the end of the day, I'm here 111 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 5: for me and you know, I'm gonna get my body 112 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 5: in the best shape to play at the highest level 113 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 5: come game time. 114 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 4: People have Some people in there came to they don't 115 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 4: do that anyway. 116 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: It recommended you, hey, don't don't go, or you were 117 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: just like, no, everybody knows I'm coming. Like no. 118 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 5: My agent was even like, man, dude, what you want 119 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 5: to do. At the end of the day, you know, 120 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 5: it's whatever you want to do. I'm not gonna tell 121 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 5: you what to do. So and it was my decision 122 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 5: to come back and come work out. 123 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: Joe was saying he's thinking about his contracting. 124 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: He's also thinking that you and Jamar during that process 125 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: was the being to have a quarterback looks at this 126 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: that way. 127 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 5: Man, he's a lot, uh, you know, just having a guy, 128 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 5: a leader like him, you know, looking out for guys 129 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 5: like us and hopefully we can get something. 130 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: Did you buy any of the weird trade stuff before 131 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: the combine that was out there. 132 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: I'm sure you saw it. 133 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: I've seen it, but I wasn't there. I wasn't tripping. 134 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 5: I know, I'm wanted here at the end of the day, 135 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 5: and I knew I wasn't going nowhere. 136 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 4: So I don't think I'm seeing you shoot down the 137 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 4: trade like. 138 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was pretty cool to see. That made me feel, 139 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 5: you know, more wanted here and feel good. 140 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: So at one point it went viral that your deal 141 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: was done? Did you get bombarded by people saying all. 142 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 5: Right, yeah, I had a lot of people texting me, man, 143 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 5: but I ain't texting that because I knew it wasn't 144 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 5: nothing done, you know what I'm saying. 145 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: So my mom. 146 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 5: Texted me was like, you got a deal doing something? 147 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 5: It's like, Mom, trust me if I had a deal 148 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 5: doing you with you first enough. She was like, I 149 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 5: thought so, But yeah, man, it was it was just, 150 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 5: you know, just just rooms. 151 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: Here's hoping those rumors become fact before the start of 152 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: the season. 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It's been almost exactly two months since the 161 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: Bengals stunned the NFL by signing the best free agent 162 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: offensive lineman on the market to a four year contract, 163 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: four time Pro Bowler, Orlando Brown Junior. When Brown met 164 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: with the media shortly after signing on the dotted line, 165 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: he mentioned how he has studied the all time great 166 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: left tackles in his quest to get better, including Bengals 167 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Anthony Munoz. Gave me an idea, what 168 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: if I could arrange for the two of them to 169 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: talk football on a zoom call. That call took place 170 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: this week and we have the pleasure of listening in. 171 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to start this conversation by pulling the curtain 172 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: back a little bit. Orlando, when I mentioned the possibility 173 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: of joining me on this podcast with Anthony Munos, you 174 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: lit up like a Christmas tree. How much do you 175 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: know about Anthony and why is this so meaningful for you? 176 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, I mean I know a lot, you know, obviously, 177 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: just probably more surface level stuff, but It means so 178 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: much to me, man, just because of you know, everything 179 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: that you know, my family instilled in me about the 180 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 2: left tackle position, and you know, Anthony Muyos is the 181 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: greatest to do it. And I think statistically that's proven. 182 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: What he's done on the film is gold jacket. And 183 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 2: you know, May given the opportunity to be able to 184 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: speak to him, I mean, come on, snow denied it. 185 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: I've been waiting on this moment. 186 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Orlando was born in nineteen ninety six, a few 187 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: years after your career ended, but he clearly appreciates the 188 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: greats that played before him. What does that tell you? 189 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's it's really meaningful. 190 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 6: It's flattering that you know, he would talk about wanting 191 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 6: to meet me and wanting to talk. You know, I 192 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 6: guess it really goes to the game. I mean, and 193 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 6: I'm much older than him, much much older. I was 194 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 6: older than his dad. But then I look at the 195 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 6: guys that, you know, the shoulders I stood on, you know, 196 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 6: when I was a kid, I was watching you know, 197 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 6: you know, Art Shell and guys like that. So you know, 198 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 6: it's one of those things where it's great to hear 199 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 6: as generations go along that. You know, we we can 200 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 6: think about the guys that played the same position, and 201 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 6: I'm flattering and I'm thrilled to get a chance to 202 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 6: meet the young guy. 203 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that's awesome. I appreciate that. Man. That's you know, 204 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: I just I personally feel like that's like the humbling 205 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: part of football is the guys that came before you. 206 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 2: You know, even at your universe on the pro teams 207 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: you play, you know, once you get to a certain 208 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: level in this league, the guys that came before you, 209 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, that's who laid out the 210 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: carpet to give guys an opportunity. And you know, you 211 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: being you know, the type of player you were athletically, 212 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: high wise, size wise, wait wise, all of that. You know, 213 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 2: it's you somewhat one of the first. So you know, man, 214 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's a true honor. Well, Orlando. 215 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 6: You know, it's interesting so many times we think about 216 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 6: the pro game, but you you've mentioned a great thing. 217 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 6: You know, the guys that came you know before us, 218 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 6: And you know, I look at you know, you played 219 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 6: at Oklahoma, I played at USC two story programs, and 220 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 6: I look at the guys that really played before me there, 221 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 6: you know, way back in the sixties with Ron mixed 222 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 6: Hall of Fame number. You know, played a lot of 223 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 6: years in the NFL. Ron Yerry first picked me aft 224 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 6: for the Vikings, and then myself and then guys after 225 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 6: me like Bruce Matthews and Tony Basili and you got 226 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 6: the same thing going. So, you know, I think it's 227 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 6: great that as you know, young guys that are in 228 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 6: the league and even myself, we continue to keep that 229 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 6: sense of history and understanding see and appreciate what you know, 230 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 6: what the left tackle, what lineman do, and and that's 231 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 6: what's fun for me to meet a young guy like 232 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 6: yourself is having a lot of success right now, and 233 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 6: to finally say, hey, I'm looking forward to you know, 234 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 6: hopefully they bring me back to the preseason because I knows, 235 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 6: I do the preseason games, and I'm sure you guys 236 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 6: won't be playing a whole lot in the preseason, but 237 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 6: week number one, I'll you know, I'll be watching and 238 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 6: then when the games are at home, I'll be in 239 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 6: the stands watching. 240 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 4: But that's what's fun for me. 241 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 6: And I tell people, you know, people ask me what 242 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 6: about the draft, What do you think about the draft? 243 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 6: I said, you know what, it started for me with 244 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 6: the big smile before the draft, the fact that we 245 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 6: signed the left tackle. Uh and uh and that to me, 246 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 6: you know, I know, number nine, I had a big file, 247 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 6: a lot of fans or but tell you this old 248 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 6: office lineman had a big smile when they signed you. 249 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, I mean for me, it was just you know, 250 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: coming to be a Bengal. Man, it was a clear 251 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: opportunity and you know, money aside. Uh. Man, I'm all 252 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: about winning and I'm all about playing the left tackle 253 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: position to the best of my ability. And you know, 254 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: this was a system under coach Taylor, coach Frank Pollock. Man, 255 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: everything that they asked the offensive tackle to do within 256 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: the system, I feel like was met my standards and 257 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: kind of uh plays to my strengths as a player. 258 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: And you know, I've we've all got our own strengths 259 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 2: and weaknesses. And man, I just feel like what they 260 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: had to offer in that area. Obviously with Joe you know, 261 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: being at the him at quarterback, I mean that doesn't 262 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: make it a tough decision either, man. But uh, it all, 263 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: it all kind of came together, you know. But something 264 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: I really wanted to ask you though, was you know, 265 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: you know, we we all know your accolades man, you know, 266 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: eleven time Pro boiler, All Pro thirteen years. Like, how like, 267 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: how were you able to maintain elite consistency? You know, 268 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: I haven't had the opportunity to make an All Pro yet. 269 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: I made the last four Pro bos, the last three 270 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: at left tackle, and you know I haven't. I haven't 271 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: necessarily done that yet. And that's my plan this year, 272 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: you know, to be able to turn that corner and 273 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: be that guy. But how were you able to maintain 274 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: that level of consistency throughout your whole career? 275 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I think that's a great goal 276 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 6: for you. I mean, the Pro Bowls are great. You know, 277 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 6: you're one of six. I think when when you make 278 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 6: the Pro Bowl, when you make All Pro, you one 279 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 6: of two in the entire league. And you know, so 280 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 6: that is that's a great goal for me. It was 281 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 6: year round, stay in consistent, staying in shape, working on 282 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 6: my technique. You know, one of the things a lot 283 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 6: of people know is that I didn't take a whole 284 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 6: lot of time and this worked for me after my 285 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 6: last game, to get back into training my body, letting 286 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 6: it recover you know, and going into it slowly, but 287 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 6: I'd already achieved a high level of conditioning during the 288 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 6: season is you know, and you're banged up a little bit. 289 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 6: But I continue right after the season, and I knew 290 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 6: that I would go out and I've left and I'd run, 291 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,239 Speaker 6: but I'd also work on my technique in the offseason. 292 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 6: One of the things I tell young guys, you don't 293 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 6: need someone across the line. 294 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 4: Of scrimmage that work on your sets, on your your steps, 295 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 4: and and I just drilled that. That was you know, 296 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: that was the way I taught. 297 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 6: And I know you got an excellent offensive line coach 298 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 6: and Frank Pollett. That's all about the technique. So and 299 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 6: I had the adude that you know, I was a 300 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 6: number three pick. I came in, I started on the 301 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 6: third day. But I approached every season that I had 302 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 6: to earn the job. 303 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: Again. 304 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 6: I wasn't taking it for granted. You know, after that 305 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 6: first year of starting, in the second you're making the 306 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 6: Pro Bowl and all I erased that and said, Okay, 307 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 6: as I enter my off season, I have to go 308 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 6: back and. 309 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: Earn a job. 310 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 6: And that was my whole mentality, is that I wanted 311 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 6: to work I wanted to step the volume up in 312 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 6: my preparation, get much better my technique, get in better shape, 313 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 6: get stronger, And that's the approach I took, and up 314 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 6: until my last year that I was probably in my 315 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 6: Going into my year thirteen, I was a little more 316 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 6: banged up, but I was probably in the best shaped 317 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 6: cardio vascular because I knew it was an older player, 318 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,119 Speaker 6: you had the younger guys nipping. 319 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: At your heels. 320 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 6: And just to share this one story, I'll never forget, 321 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 6: we had running tests going into mini campcer you know, 322 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 6: you call them OTAs, and we had defensive I'm a 323 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 6: Tim Krumer who trained like crazy too. We had to 324 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 6: do a half mile and a mile and you know, 325 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 6: we had like eight and a half minutes, and I 326 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 6: looked at Tim. I said, there's no way we're going 327 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 6: to take the full eight and a half and we 328 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 6: busted out and all the young guys said, what are 329 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 6: you guys doing well? First of all, we wanted to 330 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 6: really buy example, show them the work ethic. But then 331 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 6: on the other hand, I needed to show the coaches 332 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 6: that I could still make that half mile of that 333 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 6: mile under a certain amount of time. So I think 334 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 6: that's the example that especially offensive linemen set for not 335 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 6: only other linemen, but for the team is that you know, 336 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 6: as you know, we don't get all the notoriety, but 337 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 6: we can set the pace to temple about how we prepare, 338 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 6: how we work, and that's how it's trained at USC 339 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 6: And that was really the approach I took until you're thirteen. 340 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I feel that you know a whole heartedly, man, 341 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: I you know, that's somewhat you know, I don't want 342 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: to say a forgot or untold part of the game, 343 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: but it's one of the most important. You know, I 344 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: think a lot of times, man, being in and now 345 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: you know, being in the sport so often, you know, 346 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: for me, and I don't know how it was for you, 347 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: but you know, you see a lot of that are 348 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: talented that don't necessarily love the game, and you know, 349 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: they kind of lose out on their abilities to be 350 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: able to maximize and you know what they can be 351 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: and who they can be as players. And you know, 352 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: that was something that I always heard early on, was 353 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: you know, how important your work ethic was and training 354 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: all those different things. You know, it's something that I've 355 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: personally gotten better with throughout throughout my career just because 356 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: you know, immaturities or whatever reasons coming out. You know, 357 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: I've always was a hard worker. That's how I earned 358 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: my job. But in college. But you know, man, it's 359 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: crazy you say that. I remember, you know, quick little 360 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: story for me. I remember, man, I want to say 361 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: it's it's right around in July of twenty fifteen. I 362 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: think he did a Ted talk or something like that. Yeah, man, 363 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: it was. It was you talked about moving forward. You 364 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: know your mom. Your mom you know, encouraged me, you 365 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: to move forward. And you know, that was something that 366 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: really hit home with me, you know, because it was 367 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: just such a deep message, you know, as somebody obviously 368 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: that looks up to you, even then, you know, more 369 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: so now being in this position. But you know, man, 370 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: that's that's something that that I've kind of always went 371 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 2: back to in my mind. Was you know, the mindset 372 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 2: and mentality of that. Yeah, you know, I think, yeah. 373 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 6: As we talk about that, you know, one of the 374 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 6: phrases that I get a little I don't really care for. 375 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 6: I know a lot of guys talk about a chip 376 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 6: on their shoulder. I don't know that because to me, 377 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 6: when you look at it that you have a chip 378 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 6: on the shoulder that has a tendency to take your 379 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 6: focus away from your job. If you look at it 380 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 6: that this is just the job I have, and I'm 381 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 6: going to make those people, the Brown family, whoever you 382 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 6: make them, believe they made the right choice. 383 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: That's that's it. 384 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 6: I could have gone into my draft and said, you know, 385 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 6: I got a chip on my shoulder because nobody said 386 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 6: i'd get drafted. 387 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 4: I must, but I didn't look at it that way. 388 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 4: I looked at it. 389 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 6: This is my opportunity, this is my job. I want 390 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 6: to keep this job as long as I can at 391 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 6: the highest level. And I really believe if you start 392 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 6: talking about a chip on your shoulder, and I've heard 393 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 6: other guys use that, that it really takes your focus 394 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 6: off what you have to do, and it puts your 395 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 6: focus on those that you want to that you want 396 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 6: to say, hey, look at what I can do more 397 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 6: than like, I got to do my job, and this 398 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 6: is what I'm going to do to help the team 399 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 6: to be the best first of all, the best player, 400 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 6: the best team player. And uh and I'll share this 401 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 6: real quick. You know, we know this is a team sport. 402 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 6: And when I share a lot. I say, the only 403 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 6: time I was selfish in this team sport was in. 404 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 4: The off season. 405 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 6: I was selfish to get myself as strong as possible, 406 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 6: in the best shape, and work on my technique. That's 407 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 6: the only time I was selfish. Once I hit the 408 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 6: field with my teammates, it was all about team and 409 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 6: that's the approach I took, and I think that's what 410 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 6: allowed me to play at such a high level for 411 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 6: such a long time. 412 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I love that. Man I. You know, I've 413 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 2: always been curious, you know, obviously just watching so much 414 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: film of you and knowing your story, and you know 415 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: this might be a little deep, but you know, talk 416 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: to me a little bit about like your mindset, your 417 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: standard come Sundays, you know, and obviously that pre racing stars, 418 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: as you're saying in the off season in training camp 419 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 2: with the guys, blood, sweat and tears, you know, the holes, Bill, 420 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: But you know, talk to me a little bit about 421 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: like your state of mind on Sundays. 422 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 423 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 6: Well, okay, So first of all, you have three or 424 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 6: four days of practice before your game. I just looked 425 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 6: at that as my preparation. That was my that was 426 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 6: getting ready for my final exam. You have, however, many 427 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 6: plays on Sunday, but think about all the reps you 428 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 6: have leading up to Sunday, reps to work on what. 429 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 6: Once you've studied the guy you're playing against, what am 430 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 6: I going to use against him? What's gonna work? And 431 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 6: then working on that all week and believing in that. 432 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 6: So I enjoyed all the reps that I took during 433 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 6: the week. If it was you know, a thud or 434 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 6: full speed for us, or even a walkthrough. I believe 435 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 6: you can get better in a walkthrough. You know, if 436 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 6: you're past that, don't just get out of your stands. 437 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 6: Do what you do in you know, in full speed, 438 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 6: but you're not hitting anybody, not that you have to, 439 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 6: you know, blow everything out in a walk through. 440 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: But you can get better in a walk through. So 441 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: that was my whole mindset. 442 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 6: And then come Saturday we review and I'll never forget 443 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 6: Jim McNally who coached me. It was along the lines 444 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 6: of Frank caug Jim would come up to me and 445 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 6: he goes, now you've worked on this, you got to 446 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 6: believe in it and trust it. I said, Yep, here's 447 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 6: the technique that I believe is going to work. And 448 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 6: you just you go with it. And that was my 449 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 6: whole mindset. And I think a lot of the mindset 450 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 6: goes back to my freshman year in college. And it's interesting. 451 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 6: I retired and a year after we retired, we moved. 452 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 6: We built another house, and we moved. I found my 453 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 6: freshman playbook from USC, I mean years after my freshman year, 454 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 6: and I opened it up and the first page and 455 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 6: this is kind of the attitude I had. The first page. 456 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 6: All it said and block letters was dominate. And then 457 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 6: you turn the second page and says we will dominate 458 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 6: from the first play and by the fourth quarter they 459 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 6: will give in. And that's kind of, you know, with 460 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 6: our whole mindset was finished, finish, finished, and just set 461 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 6: in the once you get in and you believe and 462 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 6: you trust what you're gonna do. Now the guy across 463 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 6: from you, after the first several plays, you want him saying, oh, 464 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 6: it's gonna be a long afternoon. 465 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 4: This is and that was the whole and it might not. 466 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 4: You know, we all get beat. We've all gotten beat. 467 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 6: But to keep it to a minimum, but have him 468 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 6: believe that it's gonna be a long afternoon. That's kind 469 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 6: of how I built up to when I played on Sunday. 470 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Man, I feel like that definitely showed you know. 471 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: I Man, I can't tell you how much how many 472 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 2: games I watched, but Man, I mean you had so 473 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 2: many battles, you know, obviously with I mean some of 474 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: the best to ever played the game, like Bruce Smith 475 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 2: man LT I think you call him a little bit 476 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: in there. I remember watching some stuff on him. But Man, 477 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: I mean just your approaching you know sometimes you know, 478 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 2: as you said, Man, you know you will get beat. 479 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: But I think, man, the one thing you really had 480 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 2: about your game that was crazy was your recovery. You 481 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's like, Man, a guy may 482 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: look like he has the age, but somehow, someway you 483 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: got your feet and hips back in front of this 484 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 2: guy and Boomer, you know what I mean to say? 485 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: You know how you were able to do those type 486 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 2: of things? Man? Are those for you? Were those considered 487 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: like practice techniques? Was that more of a mindset for you? 488 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: You know obviously? Because Man, I personally, you know, I 489 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: understand that if I'm setting a d N and I'm 490 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: using my inside hand and I feel his shoulder come 491 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: to me and I can't post back. I'm gonna I'm 492 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: trained to spin, you know what I mean. I've trained 493 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: my muscle memory to I'm gonna spin here. If I 494 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: miss with my inside hand and I know he spins inside, 495 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: I'm spinning with the spinner, you know. And I see 496 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 2: you do that sometimes, whether you're playing a Bruce Smith 497 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 2: and you know, maybe you miss with the first punch 498 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: and you know you feel like he's got an edge, 499 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: but somehow you get back in front of him. You 500 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: know what I mean? Is that a trained habit is 501 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: that you know, just similar for you muscle memory like that. 502 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 6: I mean, it's all the above. It It's tough that 503 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 6: you just got to keep going and do whatever it is, 504 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 6: you know. And I would think because they put us 505 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 6: at left tackle if they believe we're athletic enough to 506 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 6: move out in space, and that's the took if I 507 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 6: you know, if I did get in that position, you 508 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 6: know one of the things I would do. You know, 509 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 6: God bless me with the you know, big rear end. 510 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 6: So why not you know I played basketball in high school. 511 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 6: I couldn't jump, but I got a lot of rebounds 512 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 6: because I used my body and I knew where the 513 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 6: ball was going. So I used my posteriy or in 514 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 6: so why not if you feel your kind of you know, 515 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 6: turn spin and then recover. But that's the whole thing 516 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 6: we worked on and I was thankful that I had 517 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 6: that ability to recover, the recoverability. But it's again, when 518 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 6: you talk about that, what does it boiled down to? 519 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 4: Attitude? 520 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 6: Attitude of regardless of what position you're in, you got 521 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 6: to finish the block. You got to finish it however 522 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 6: you can. 523 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 2: I love it. I love that, man. I you know, 524 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: who would you say is the best best defensive and 525 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: you played throughout your career probably the best. 526 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 4: All around you mentioned and Bruce Smith. 527 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 6: I mean I I could go down the line probably 528 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 6: give you ten guys at amazing, but the total package 529 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 6: was probably Bruce Smith. 530 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 4: I mean size, speed lanes, you know, smarts. 531 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: Uh. 532 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 6: And it was obvious because they could talk them over 533 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 6: the nose and he could play inside with his size 534 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 6: just as effective. But uh, you know, I think I 535 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 6: I think there's about a half dozen guys I played. 536 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 4: My career in the Hall of Fame, so you know, yeah, 537 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 4: no doubt, no doubt. 538 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 6: I caught guy early in their career like Bruce, and 539 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 6: then I caught guys late in their career like Elvin 540 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 6: but with the Oilers and Cedric Oh yeah, you guys 541 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 6: like that. And then there's some guys that don't get 542 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 6: enough credit, like you know, you had Howie Long on 543 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 6: one side of the Raiders, but you had great Townsend. 544 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 6: The guy was amazing, uh tyde Simmons and you know 545 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 6: Sean Jones and fred Dean Leroy. I saw Leroy Salmon 546 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 6: twice in the first five weeks of my rookie year, thinking, oh, 547 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 6: welcome to the NFL. 548 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, probably one of the nicest guys you'd ever. 549 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 6: Meet, but one of the toughest competitors and one of 550 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 6: them he's probably in my top five. And I saw 551 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 6: preseason and then opening up my rookie year, I'm thinking, Okay, 552 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 6: here we go the NFL. 553 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 4: Time to strap it up. 554 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: Man, that's the best though, another ykipede against greats. I 555 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 2: you know, something I did want to ask you though, was, 556 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: you know, man Arder, any regrets that you have in 557 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: your career. You know, whether that be uh, you know, 558 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 2: it's personal, you know what I mean, but just as 559 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 2: far as with family, as far as with what happened 560 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: on the field or you know anything like that. You know, obviously, 561 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 2: because you you know, you're a Hall of Famer, you know, 562 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 2: and you're the greatest to ever do it at the position. 563 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, I'm just curious, man. You know, 564 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: no one man is perfect, so. 565 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 6: Nobody is, you know. But I can say that I 566 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 6: was taught. I had a lot of great mentors. I 567 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 6: was taught to prioritize things. And like I said, my 568 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 6: workout was you know, that was it. But you know, 569 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 6: really deciding to prioritize my life with my wife, my kids, 570 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 6: and my football. And I really believe the way I 571 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 6: was taught, I was able to do that. I was 572 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 6: able to put everything I could into football. But the 573 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 6: same time, you know, I was able to really make 574 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 6: my family a priority. So as far as regrets, maybe 575 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 6: I didn't learn to pass rush and I couldn't rush 576 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 6: Montana on that ninety two yard drive when they beat 577 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 6: a Super Bowl. That's the only regret, man, I had 578 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 6: to spin or you know, up and under the swiper, 579 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 6: maybe tackle up on third and long we win the 580 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 6: Super Bowl. But you know, Orlando, I can really say 581 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 6: that I really don't have any great regrets as far 582 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 6: as the game itself. Yeah, you know, I felt like 583 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 6: I gave it everything when I could, uh, and I 584 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 6: was you know, that was one of the things after 585 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 6: you know, only playing one healthy season at USC, I 586 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 6: wanted to play ten plus years and every time I 587 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 6: put the uniform on, I wanted to be next to 588 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 6: my guys. And I was able to do that for 589 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 6: just about my entire thirteen years with the Bengals. 590 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: That's awesome, man. Yeah, that's a beautiful thing. Man, you 591 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: that's that's so cool. I also wanted to ask you 592 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 2: to about, you know, just some of your relationships with 593 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: some of your left guards that you played next to. Man, 594 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 2: I know you didn't play next to me, I would 595 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: believe as a Bengel. Yeah, but you know, just just 596 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 2: I'm just curious on you know, your relationships with some 597 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: of these guys, you know what I mean, just how 598 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: how far they are you know, are you still friends 599 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: with them? You know? How was it when you guys 600 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: were playing how much time was spent together? Like, you know, 601 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: I'm just you know, just curious. 602 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 4: No, that's a great question. 603 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 6: And you know, and I tell people unlike the game 604 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 6: that nowadays, when I tell people I played thirteen years of. 605 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 4: Bengals and had one line coach. They're like, what and 606 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 4: I played and Dan might have the staff. 607 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 6: But I think I played next to Bruce Raimers for 608 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 6: like seven or eight years, maybe six or seven. I 609 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 6: played next to Dave Lapham for four who were Stills 610 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 6: the Buds. 611 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, laugh Laugh is the man. He's 612 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 4: my guy man. 613 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 6: And when I got when I got it, I took 614 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 6: Dave Lapham to my hometown in southern California when they 615 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 6: did all these things for me at home when I 616 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 6: was getting inducted, and they said, we'd like for you 617 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 6: to bring one teammate, and I had I could have 618 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 6: chose a bunch of them, but I took lap I 619 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 6: played my first four years next to lapp In about 620 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 6: maybe six or seven, next to Bruce Reimers, and uh, 621 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 6: of course he always stayed in Iowa. I've seen him 622 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 6: a couple of times since they started bringing guys back, 623 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 6: but I'm sure we get together and it's like we 624 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 6: haven't missed a beat. And then a couple other guys, 625 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 6: you know, Bruce Kazerski who played guard center. They're still 626 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 6: in town. So we still have a lot of the 627 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 6: guys that I played with, uh and really the only guys. 628 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 6: Bruce Rhymers stayed in Iowa, so I don't see him 629 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 6: a whole lot, but we communicate now and then. And uh, 630 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 6: it was it was amazing because as you know, I 631 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 6: mean that left guard. It means everything, you know, not 632 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 6: only that, absolutely especially that left guard. And to be 633 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 6: able to play next to two guys for the majority 634 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 6: of my career. I feel really blessed and fortunate to 635 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 6: be able to do that. 636 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: Man. I hear you, man, I you know, because you know, 637 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: just just coming off a Super Bowl with Joe Touney 638 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 2: out there in KC. And we spent the last two 639 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: years together before that. For me, it was Marshall, Janda 640 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: and Baltimore on the right side a little bit, uh Man. 641 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: Just that bond that's created, you know, where you're bad 642 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: or with that guy for a whole game and it's 643 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: just YouTube versus another two set of men whose families 644 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: and loyalty and all this stuff is on the line. 645 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: And you know, I mean, just that bond and relationship 646 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: that's created within battle. Man. I'm just always curious, you 647 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: know it just about the you know, transition of the 648 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: game and kind of how that. 649 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 6: Goes, that's great. Now I got a young left tackle, 650 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 6: young left guard. We can see you in Bolton next 651 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 6: each other for eight, nine, ten years, so. 652 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: Man, that's the player. 653 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 4: That's the player, Man number nine. 654 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 6: Then for about another you know, ten to fifteen, and 655 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 6: have you guys on the left side, and yeah we're. 656 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: Five, no doubt, no doubt. Man, Last question for you, 657 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: I don't I don't think we have much time. But 658 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: last question for you. Man. You know I did a 659 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: little bit diving to you a little bit, you know, 660 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: obviously like growing up and stuff, and you know, I 661 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: just was always curious, you know, being a Mexican American, 662 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 2: you know, man, just kind of like what you experienced 663 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: because you're you know, growing up in California. I'm guessing 664 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: you know during the seventies, man, I had to or 665 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: you know, late sixties and seventies had to be you know, 666 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: some different. So you know, I just was curious on 667 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: the type of culture and and people you grew up around. 668 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 4: You know, I had a great upbringing. 669 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 6: I lived in a really diverse area and you're right, 670 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 6: sixteen seventies out in LA were not the greatest. But 671 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 6: I lived in a park just east of La about 672 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 6: forty miles and I mean there was three of us. 673 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 6: We were like the three Musketeers, and we'd go to 674 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 6: each other's house. I had a white guy, a black guy, 675 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 6: and a brown guy, the three of us. Man we 676 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 6: played baseball together, and I think I think I'd have 677 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 6: to say a little bias. They probably enjoyed my mom's 678 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 6: homemade tortillas more than the other food. 679 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 4: But we. 680 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 6: Used to go to each other's house each you know, 681 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 6: have meals with each other. We used to hang out. 682 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 6: So it was pretty diverse. And my high school is 683 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 6: pretty diverse. So I was fortunate growing up. You know, 684 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 6: my whole family's from Mexico. I was born in the States, 685 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 6: but you know, always been proud of the culture and 686 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 6: trying to represent you know, the Latino you know community. 687 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 6: And it's been important because I hear a lot of feedback, 688 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 6: you know, because especially as you get more, you know, 689 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 6: the Latinos playing in the NFL, guys you know, watching 690 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 6: you and and stuff as they're growing up. But yeah, 691 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 6: so the culture was pretty cool. I I had a 692 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 6: great upbringing. Uh you know, it wasn't the best. You know, 693 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 6: we didn't have a whole lot, but it didn't matter, 694 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 6: because as long as I had you know, my family 695 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 6: and school and sports, I was set. 696 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 4: Man, It's just the summertime. I played baseball all summer, 697 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 4: uh you know. 698 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 6: Then I got to high school and started playing some 699 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 6: football long with baseball and basketball, but things. 700 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 4: Went pretty well. 701 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: You know. 702 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 6: I never experienced any pushback, anything that you know affected me. Uh, 703 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 6: you know, as far as you know, people really, you know, 704 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 6: being any different to me. So it was good that 705 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 6: I grew up where I did, and then I came 706 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 6: back here. It was a little different when I got 707 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 6: to Cincinnati. Couldn't find any Mexican food. You know, I 708 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 6: no doubt a lot of people are going crazy about 709 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 6: Paco Bell and there's a restaurant here, Dan you probably, 710 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 6: I don't know if Dan's, even though the Chee Cheese 711 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 6: they had a restaurant. 712 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: Coltge Oh yeah, I remember Chee Chee's from back in 713 00:31:58,960 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: the day. 714 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Orlando, You're like this and you ask me a question. 715 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 6: The first mistake I made when I got to Cincinnati 716 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 6: one of my first interviews, because we looked all over 717 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 6: for Mexican food, I said, the only one of the 718 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 6: only things I love. As soon as we got to 719 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 6: Cincinnati fell in love with Cincinnati. 720 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 4: I mean it was. 721 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 6: But in the interview, I said, I have one problem. 722 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 6: I can't find any good sasa. 723 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: I can't. 724 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 6: So that was a mistake because after that article came out, 725 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 6: every restaurant I went into, the cook came out with salsa. 726 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 4: It was a hey, Japanese steak cows steak cows? 727 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: It did? 728 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 4: They came out with salsa? Here? 729 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: Try this. 730 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 4: You know you got a while, okay, but. 731 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 6: Uh, you know, as time went by, we got more 732 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 6: some pretty good Mexican food. 733 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: But uh yeah. 734 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 6: So it was I enjoyed growing up in my culture 735 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 6: and and you know really, uh had no problems with it. Yeah. 736 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, that's you know, it's crazy to talk 737 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: about Cincinnati. That's like the best part of being here, man, 738 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: is the love in the city, you know what I mean. 739 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 2: And it's it's you know, you know how much they 740 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: love their football. You know how important it is to them, 741 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: and you know that that same energy as reciprocated man 742 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 2: from within and myself and yourself. So man, I'm so 743 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: thankful for you know, you taking some time to talk 744 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: to me and everything. Man, I really appreciate you. 745 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 6: Love it when dad, when Dan contacted me and I'd 746 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 6: love to do is I want to meet the guys. Uh, 747 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,959 Speaker 6: you know now, now I know I'll be you know, 748 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 6: even if I hadn't met you, I'll be rooting y'all. 749 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 6: But I don't get down there a whole lot until camp. 750 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 6: But uh, i'll pop my head in there now and 751 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 6: then be the preseason. If to ask me back to 752 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 6: do the broadcast, I'll be back, but uh, I'll watch you. 753 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 6: I'll be watching you and hopefully we can go out 754 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 6: and grab a bite teeth down. 755 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 4: The road here some time. 756 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, man, I love to I appreciate you man, 757 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, Hey. 758 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 6: Thank you, and Dan, thank you for setting us up. Yeah, 759 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 6: Dan has all my information. You can pass it on 760 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 6: to you my myself, my email and stuff, and maybe 761 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 6: we can connect down the road here. 762 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: Okay, perfect man, Dan, I really appreciate you, doog, thanks you. Hey. 763 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: This has been great. I feel like I was a 764 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: fly on the wall when a friendship was formed. Hey, guys, 765 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: thanks so much for your time. I know the listeners 766 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: will really enjoy this conversation. To look forward to seeing 767 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: you two guys together during training camp at some point 768 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: with Anthony's on the field. 769 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 4: Sure, thank you, Orlando pleasure Man. 770 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: Great talking to you, Yes, sir Pleasures Well, thank you. 771 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: How cool was it to hear Orlando's genuine excitement in 772 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: getting the opportunity to talk to one of his football heroes, 773 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: Anthony Munio's that's going to do it for This episode 774 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: of The Bengals Booth Podcast brought to you by Kettering Health, 775 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: the official healthcare provider of the Bengals, by Bengals Picks 776 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: and Ultimate Bengals. 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