1 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: The ultra right wing maga extreme Supreme Court goes against 2 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: something conservatives probably would have liked. Also, is Tinder the 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: new hope for gen Z. Interestingly enough, the Hookup Back 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: app might be changing its direction at also sixty minutes 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: trying to moderate shows that well they can't moderate, at 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: least as evidence by one of their main hosts at 7 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: a graduation speech over the weekend. All that more coming 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: up on this episode of Turning Point Tonight. Thanks so 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: much for tuning in. My name is Jobob. Together we 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. This is 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: Turning Point Tonight. Now, before we get to those stories 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: in our fantastic panel, we have to talk about a 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: thing that isn't happening according to the Libs, but actually 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: is totally one hundred percent happening. The Daily Wire had 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: an investigative journalist I believe his name is Spencer Linquist 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: talking about mortgage come companies giving mortgage loans to illegal immigrants. 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: But of course that's not happening, said the Libs, and 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: Trump's executive order saying, hey, the Federal Housing Association can't 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: back loans given to illegal mortgage Well, it's not happening, 20 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: it's not happening. Turns out it is. According to this 21 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: report from The Daily Wire, there is an entire industry 22 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: built around giving mortgages to illegal immigrants. Part of the 23 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: tactic that they use that Americans don't have the ability 24 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: to get around is the fact that you don't have 25 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: to have an identification. You don't have to have your 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: Social Security number, things that we would have to do. Instead, 27 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: you have to only have the individual taxpayer ID number, 28 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: the itin number, and show that to the mortgage company 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: that targets illegal immigrants. Of course, that is what's happening. 30 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: A company called Prisma, I think I'm pronouncing that right 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: out of Connecticut specifically and explicitly targets illegal immigrants, saying, hey, 32 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: here's how you get through the process, here's what we 33 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: need from you, and by the way, don't show any 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: sort of identification that may get you deported lest we 35 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: lose the investment on your mortgage. Now, here's the other 36 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: thing that I think is fascinating about this. While this 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: is entirely unfair to Americans who not only have to 38 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: compete with each other to get houses, but also now 39 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: competing with illegal immigrants who shouldn't have mortgages to begin with. 40 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: It Also, and here's a curve ball, isn't fair to 41 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: the legal immigrants getting the mortgages, Or at least that's 42 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: the way that I see it. President Trump issued in 43 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: executive order that bars illegal immigrants from getting federally backed loans. 44 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: And the problem with that is, well, federally back loans 45 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: come with some protections, and if you don't have those protections, one, 46 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: the rates are substantially higher for these loans written to 47 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: these illegal immigrants. And if the rates are higher there 48 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: are no protections, well, the chances of them defaulting on 49 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: those loans are even higher than the normal default rate, 50 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: which means that illegal immigrants get kicked out on their butts. 51 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: Americans don't get the opportunity to compete because the illegal 52 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: immigrants are also competing in that space, and the only 53 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: person that wins, the only entity that wins, is the 54 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: companies targeting illegals for. 55 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: Their money. 56 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: By means of mortgages. In other words, nobody benefits from this, 57 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: and yet it is still happening to a degree that 58 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure many Americans would be uncomfortable with. And but 59 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: of course the libs are saying that that's not happening 60 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: at all. Here to comment on that and so much 61 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: more is Media Research Centers. Justin Murray and the TMB 62 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: Problems host to Tiffany Brandon. Thanks guys for joining us, 63 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: Really appreciate you taking the. 64 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: Time, Thanks for having us justin. 65 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: You know, we see so often that things that this 66 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: is not happening. There are no illegals getting mortgages. All 67 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: the lib outlets say well, this is not a problem 68 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: that needs to get solved. It clearly is. And not 69 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: only is it a problem, it seems like there's a 70 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: there's a whole industry built on top of this. Can 71 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: you kind of speak to the idea that at this 72 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: point nobody believes when the Lib media says, well, it's 73 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: not happening, so you don't need to fix the problem. 74 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: No matter how obvious it is that they're lying to us. 75 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 4: The feasibility logistics and just plain logic. 76 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 3: It's for all foreign concept to the left. 77 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 4: They feel like they're morally, morally superior, so all they 78 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: have to do is just hide in plain sight. 79 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: It's like a three year old playing hide and seek. 80 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: He's hiding and plain sight. 81 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: Expecting you to just you know, look over him and 82 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 4: pretend he's not there, and just pretend that the Left 83 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 4: isn't corrupt. But it's really all part of their plan. 84 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 4: The leftist planned to make this entire country a public toilet. 85 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: Everyone's supposed to be forced to live next to Casa 86 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 4: del Ms thirteen. They want Americans to suffer and be 87 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 4: treated life where second class citizens in the name of 88 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 4: this moral superiority that the Left has to go on. 89 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy to think that they think this is 90 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: actually beneficial, Tiffany Americans who are trying to apply for 91 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: a mortgage to buy the same house have to jump 92 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: through hoop after hoop and all of these stringent rules. 93 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: You know, at a certain point, does it make sense 94 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: for Americans to say, Hey, I'm an illegal, give me 95 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: a much easier mortgage to obtain, or do we just, 96 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, try to at some point make it 97 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: against the rules to target specifically, Hey, this is for 98 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants. Here's how to avoid all the processes. Do 99 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: we make that illegal somehow does Congress get involved? 100 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 5: Well to your point right there, you know, forty six 101 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 5: percent of Americans have been denied mortgages in the last year. 102 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 5: Now twenty five percent, actually more than that have been 103 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 5: denied refinance mortgage to refinance their home. Now, these are 104 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 5: Americans who are good, tax paying citizens, have been born here, 105 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 5: at work here, and have lives here. Meanwhile, what they're 106 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 5: doing to these illegals by the essentially you know, marketing 107 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 5: to them and trying to get them to come and 108 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 5: get these mortgages, this is a loan shark. This is 109 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 5: no different than the mob because there are no protections, 110 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 5: like you said, and there are no checks and balances. 111 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 3: So that's why now they are literally handing out to 112 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: these people. 113 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 5: They've given mortgages to, you know, instructions on how to 114 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 5: avoid ice, how to automatically claim like, oh I'm scared, 115 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 5: I'm fearful of my life, not that I just you know, 116 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 5: cross the border illegally because I want to come here 117 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 5: and I have no actual interest in making America great 118 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 5: again or being a proper, you know, citizen in this nation. 119 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 5: But now they're going to claim fear because the mortgage 120 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 5: company told them to do that because they would like 121 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 5: to get paid. 122 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah. Tho's a lot of good points there. 123 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: Speaking of good points not being made, sixteen minutes, I 124 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: think We've all been familiar with this story. Trump, the 125 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: Trump administration is I think Donald Trump himself assuming sixty 126 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: Minutes for selective editing. Their main sixty Minutes producer resigned. 127 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: The head of CBS at least in that department also resigned. 128 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: They're trying to tack towards the middle. I'm gonna play you, 129 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: guys a clip from Scott Pelles, who's one of the 130 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: prominent hosts of sixty Minutes, a speech that he gave 131 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: it a university graduation, and I want to ask you 132 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: after this if you think this is tacking towards the 133 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: center or just being crazy trying not to laugh at 134 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: this because it is kind of funny. 135 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: Watch this, this moment this morning. 136 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 6: Our sacred rule of law is underattack. Journalism is underattack, 137 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 6: universities are underattack. Freedom of speech is underattack. Power can 138 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 6: rewrite history with grotesque, false narratives. They can make criminals 139 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 6: heroes and heroes criminals. Power can change the definition of 140 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 6: the words we use to describe reality. Diversity is now 141 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 6: described as illegal, Equity is to be shunned. Inclusion is 142 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 6: a dirty word. 143 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: That is again a guy, prominent host on the show 144 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: that is trying to moderate because you know their lawsuits 145 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. Uh, Tiffany, I think 146 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: you saw what I saw the Uh what are. 147 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: We doing with our hands? 148 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 5: We need all these different gesticulations to try to make 149 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 5: a point. 150 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: It's hilarious, Like what is this? Is this drama school? 151 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: Are we teaching it esbian course? 152 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 7: Yeah? 153 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: No, this is incredible. 154 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 5: So you know what's really annoying is that CBS, specifically 155 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 5: sixty minutes, they are literally the recipients of a lawsuit 156 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 5: because they have cut and edited democrats, including you know, 157 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 5: Kamala Harris when she was running for president, to make 158 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 5: her sound smarter than she actually was, which I don't 159 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 5: think is a shock to any of us. They were 160 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 5: willfully like accomplices to trying to downplay Biden's cognitive decline. 161 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 5: They did everything possible that breaches I was a serious 162 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 5: journalist once upon a time, I got into Columbia's Jay School. 163 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 5: I went to USC at a Burgh school, and let 164 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 5: me tell you, they breached the basic code of conduct 165 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 5: of what it is to be a journalist and to 166 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 5: be a member of the press and report the truth. 167 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: And now that. 168 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 5: These men are taking you know, like Tim Waltz just 169 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 5: did it last week where he took the podium at 170 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 5: the UM twenty five commencement speech and and spent you know, 171 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 5: way too long talking about how the ICE agents that 172 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 5: have now they're facing over four hundred increase in assaults 173 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 5: against them when they're trying to do their job, how 174 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 5: they're somehow the Gestapo. And I'm sick of these journalists 175 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 5: taking these opportunities when they're supposed to be inspiring America's 176 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 5: future and inspiring them to be you know, working, productive 177 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 5: citizens and members of this country. I am tired of 178 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 5: them taking this opportunity to you know, air all this 179 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 5: political nonsense and make you know, wonderful hand motions that 180 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 5: they can't seem to stop themselves. 181 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: Far Justine, while I do these hand motions, he said, 182 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: diversity is illegal, you know, with with two women and 183 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: a brown guy on a TV show, Are you ready 184 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: for the administration to show up at your door because again, 185 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: diversity is now illegal according to the insight out of 186 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: his mind. 187 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 4: Scott Pelley, Yeah, it seems like that is a fear 188 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: lessons there from Cory Booker to be or not to 189 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 4: be a centered media. 190 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: Heck, that's is my question. 191 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: It's just so funny to look at this guy do 192 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 4: what we call the dish gallop, which is basically a 193 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 4: verbal diarrhea of leftist talking points that are so it's emptiness, 194 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 4: pure emptiness behind these talking points. 195 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: He needs a. 196 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 4: Mirror, That's what he needs, because everything that he accused 197 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: the right of doing is what the left and what 198 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 4: the media covered up for this entire time. He's talking 199 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: about killing criminals as heroes. Well, just a couple of 200 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 4: weeks ago, CBS, his network, blurred out the mugshots of 201 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 4: convicted sex gang rapists on the White House lawn, and 202 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 4: they keep up putting up, propping up these pro these 203 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 4: supporters of hamas terrorists, foreign nationals that come to college camps, 204 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 4: that they recently did a sixty minutes piece on this 205 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 4: poor innocent victim of motion Abu or Kill the Dow 206 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 4: or something, Madawih who recently he was charged out one 207 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 4: point with claiming that he wanted to buy a gun 208 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 4: to murder Jewish people, And CBS is hailing this guy 209 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 4: and these illegal aliens and convicted rapists as heroes. So 210 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 4: what he really needs is to do some self reflection, 211 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 4: but the left just simply can't do that. Instead, They're 212 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 4: going to use all the cliches they can to call 213 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 4: us anti democratic and fascists when they were the ones 214 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 4: doing it all along. 215 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: That's I think the biggest problem, or at least curiosity 216 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: that I have. Does he think he's taking himself seriously? 217 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: Is he like looking in the mirror, going yes, this 218 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: is how I will convince people of my ways? I 219 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: don't know. But at the same time, there's also the 220 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: age old adage on this show. There's a part of 221 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: me that really really loves seeing libs do that, because 222 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: the more they do this, the easier it is for 223 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: us to win. Justina and Tiffany will be back after 224 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: the break to discuss possibly a great hope from gen 225 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: Z coming from one of the weirdest possible places, or 226 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: at least a place that I would not have expected 227 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: that coming up after the break. Don't go away. Welcome 228 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: back to Turning Point. Tonight. We're together. We are charting 229 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: the course of America's cultural comeback. It is time to 230 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: check in with Turning Points. White House correspondent, Monica Page 231 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: at the White House, Monica, how you doing? 232 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 7: How you doing? Joe, Bob, very rainy day here. Unfortunately 233 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 7: it hasn't stopped, and it's not gonna stop all week, 234 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 7: so we have a our umbrella is ready. 235 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: Wow, it's unfortunate, especially considering the bright ray of sunshine 236 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: that should be emanating from the White House at all times. 237 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: I think that was mandated. I don't know what's going 238 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: on there. You know, this is a very serious topic, 239 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: but also it feels very necessary. Marco Rubio put out 240 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: a tweet. Let's see if we can pull that tweet 241 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: up to kind of contextualize this. For far too long, 242 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: Americans have been fined, harassed, and even charged by foreign 243 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: authorities for exercising their freedom of speech rights. Today, I'm 244 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: announcing a new visa restriction policy that will apply to 245 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: foreign officials and persons who are complicit in censoring Americans. 246 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: Free speech is essential to the American way of life, 247 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: a birthright over with which foreign governments have no authority. Monica, 248 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: can you kind of fill in some of the gaps 249 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: there of why is the administration doing this? What are 250 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: some of the catalysts that spurred this on? You talked 251 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: about a judge in Brazil, kind of fill in why 252 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: this is so necessary and important coming out of the 253 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: Trump administration. 254 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean our First Amendment. Right. If you don't 255 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 7: have first Amendment, you don't really have any of them, 256 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 7: quite honestly. And I think this is a very important 257 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 7: move from the Secretary of State Mark Rubia, which, by 258 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 7: the way, happy birthday to him today is his birthday. 259 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 7: This is huge considering that given what's happening on our 260 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 7: college campuses here in the United States with the First Amendment, 261 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 7: and given the fact that that judge that you reference 262 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 7: for the Brazilian judge, Alexander de morays, he was working 263 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 7: actively fighting against x CEO there elon Musk about what 264 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 7: can and can't be posted, what if brazil can even 265 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 7: have access access to X and in general. But essentially 266 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 7: the State Department is calling this unacceptable to seek arrest 267 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 7: warrants on US citizens on our own soil over posts 268 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 7: on social media. That's exactly what it comes down to. 269 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 7: And I think this is a very important move and 270 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 7: one that is kind of common sense when you think 271 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 7: about it. I mean, this is our country, our rules. 272 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 7: Why should any other foreign entity come and try to 273 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 7: thrend that on our own soil. 274 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it feels like a just good luck try 275 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: it because I remember when the UK was instituting all 276 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: of their crazy speech rules, which a lot of are 277 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: still in place there today. Somebody had mentioned I forget 278 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: who it was, but is somebody pretty high up and 279 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: I think the London Police Department saying yeah, if if 280 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: somebody tweets something or posts something online that we don't like, 281 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: we will issue an arrest warrant, even if they're in 282 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: the United States, to which all of us conservatives want 283 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: good luck, like come and come and take it type 284 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: of mentality here. Is there anything that you kind of 285 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: see that is going to immediately get solved by this, 286 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: or is this kind of like an overarching thing that 287 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: is just going to be in place and it is 288 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: kind of an administrative stance, or is there something like 289 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: immediately that you know of that is going to be 290 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,119 Speaker 1: affected with by this immediately. 291 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 7: I kind of see this as a blanket protection for 292 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 7: all Americans and hopefully for college students as well, especially 293 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 7: those who are Jewish and are experiencing anti Semitism otheryrown campuses. 294 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 7: God forbid, there is a foreign entity that is trying 295 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 7: to censor some of these students on their college campuses, 296 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 7: not in the way that the president is trying to 297 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 7: combat anti Semitism. But you know, when it comes to 298 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 7: the perpetrators to make sure that they are prosecuted in 299 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 7: the way that they're supposed by banning students foreign visas, 300 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 7: You're not supposed to come here and start criticizing our 301 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 7: country if you're hero and a visa. That's not how 302 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 7: this works. But I also kind of see this, to 303 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 7: expand on this conversation a little bit more, it's within 304 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 7: our own country, within our own political party system. When 305 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 7: you saw the Democrats censoring Republicans on social media, when 306 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 7: you saw Mark Zuckerberg actively trying to censor post regarding 307 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 7: the Hunter Biden laptop, the COVID vaccine, when you saw 308 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 7: I don't know, the Department of Justice go after a 309 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 7: specific civilian for posting memes of Hillary Clinton and was. 310 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: Jailed for that. 311 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 7: So I'm hoping this is not only against these foreign 312 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 7: entities but also those who try to pull that censorship 313 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 7: nonsense here in the United States as well. 314 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, one can only hope, but unfortunately, considering 315 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: where a bunch of the lefty tech operatives are, I'm 316 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: not super optimistic. But I guess we'll see, and I 317 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: hope this continues to be a path and direction the 318 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: administration goes Monica Page, turning points, White House Correspondent, thanks 319 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: so much for checking in. Thanks so much, Joe Bob, 320 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: thank you. The Supreme Court didn't hear something that I 321 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: would have loved for them to hear, and unfortunately sent 322 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: it back to the ruling in Massachusetts. If you're not 323 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: aware of this story, there was a child in Massachusetts, 324 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: a junior hire that wore a T shirt onto the 325 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: school's campus and that T shirt was just so bad 326 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: and horrible that they couldn't handle it. And that kid 327 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: was kicked out of school or at least told not 328 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: to wear the T shirt. And this made it all 329 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: the way up to the Supreme Court. What did the 330 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: T shirt say? Well, the T shirt said there are 331 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: only two genders. Now here's the problem that I would 332 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: have with that. The Supreme Court. Yeah, there does need 333 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,479 Speaker 1: to be rules regarding what kids can wear and what 334 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: kids can't wear in schools. Problem is, if a kid's 335 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: wearing a shirt that says there are only two genders, 336 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: which is just objectively true, in the school says no, 337 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: you can't wear that shirt, then are they also making 338 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: sure that kids can't wear the trans flag on their 339 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: T shirt. Are they also making sure the kids wear 340 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: they can't wear the alphabet letter T shirt. What if 341 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: somebody's wearing a Dylan mulvany T shirt. Are they gonna 342 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: outlaw that or is it just selective too conservatives? My 343 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: guess would be that in the state of Massachusetts, state 344 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: that has elected Elizabeth Warren to the Senate, the United 345 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: States freaking Senate Elizabeth Warren is a member of the Senate. 346 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: A state that elected Elizabeth Warren probably isn't enforcing the 347 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: rules on both sides of the fence. Let's bring our 348 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: panel back if we have the opportunity to do. I 349 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: know we're having some little bit of technical difficulties. A right, 350 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: here we go, there's a panel back. Tiffany and Justine 351 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: are back with us. Justine, I'll start with you here. 352 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: I don't like that the Supreme Court isn't stepping in 353 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: on this, But at the same time, I understand, yeah, 354 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: schools do need to have parameters. However, However, again, again 355 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: and again, do you think they are in forcing all 356 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: of those rules, the non quote unquote political rules, or 357 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: not being a disturbance in class fairly, or do you 358 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: think there's one side that's specifically getting the raw end 359 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: of the deal. 360 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 4: Well, some when they treat transgenderism and gender ideology as 361 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 4: a rule, when when that curriculum is just part of 362 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 4: the school. So, god forbid you have a kid show 363 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 4: up with a really scary shirt that talks about common sense, 364 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 4: that says there's two genders that might differ, might dare 365 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 4: to question and challenge the school's curricula, which has become 366 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: so woke to the point where incorporating to generacy, we've 367 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 4: had public schools turn their heads and even condone when 368 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 4: they're teachers. This is an actual story. I can't believe 369 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 4: I'm saying this, but when we've had teachers go on 370 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 4: camera justifying why they're teaching young people about butt plugs 371 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: like that was actually a book put in a public 372 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 4: school life library recently, and a teacher had to justify 373 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 4: that and called a parent a homophobe for saying, you know, 374 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: that's kind of inappropriate. But god forbid you have a 375 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 4: kid show up with hate speech on his shirt that says, 376 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 4: you know, well, you have a man and a. 377 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 3: Woman and there's no other gender. 378 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 4: Sorry, teacher, you can't just make up a gender and 379 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 4: indoctrinate kids with your news speak. 380 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: Well, that's just a Shonda. 381 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. That sounds like our friend John Mamachuku who goes 382 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: into school board meetings and reads them what is in 383 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: the classroom and they said, no, you can't read that. 384 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: This is not appropriate. Like, okay, the case in point there, 385 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: Tiffany So, And it's at a certain point you start 386 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: to wonder, Okay, well, what is legal or what is 387 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: allowable here? If you can't wear a shirt that says 388 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: there are two genders, what if the kid just shut 389 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: up that had a shirt that said women are female 390 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: like that? Just that feels like such an obvious thing, 391 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: and maybe maybe we should just start sending t shirts 392 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: to kids in that school district, just saying the most 393 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: and not just say woman on it. What is allowed? 394 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: I mean, where do you draw the line here? 395 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 396 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 3: I think it's a complete repression of free speech. 397 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 7: Right. 398 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 5: You look at where there's actually already been a court 399 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 5: case back in nineteen sixty nine that allowed, you know, 400 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 5: hippies that were protesting the Vietnam War to wear these 401 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 5: black armbands on their wrists. So the hippies can protest, 402 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 5: but the conservatives who actually believe in science, they can't 403 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 5: say that, So I really do think that there needs 404 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 5: to be you know, action, and what's going on right now, 405 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 5: it's kind of hinted to in the Supreme Court case, 406 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 5: is that the Supremes will be hearing another case coming 407 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 5: up dealing with LGTBQ stuff, dealing with a lot of 408 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 5: this similar thing in schools and what in the descent 409 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 5: you can kind of get an idea of this as 410 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 5: coming of indoctrinating younger children. 411 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: So I do think there's hope. 412 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 5: Maybe for an appeal down the road to depending on 413 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 5: where the Supreme Court case ultimately ends up. So you know, 414 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 5: cross your fingers and hopefully things will get sorted out 415 00:21:59,480 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 5: in the end. 416 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of having hope, I have some hope for 417 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: the gen Z generation. Tinder, if you don't know, is 418 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: a social media app or hookup app. I don't. I 419 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: don't even know what's necessarily call it, but you swipe right. 420 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: It's known for people having ungodly marital relations while outside 421 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: of the bounds of marriage, which you know is probably 422 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: not the most conservative thing new but they Tinder themselves, 423 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: are curtailing how they do their app and not out 424 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: of the goodness of their heart. By the way this 425 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: is market driven. It's turning out that gen Z is 426 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: looking for more meaningful relationships and therefore using the hookup 427 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: apps less, which is great news for me. Justine, kind 428 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: of can you speak to your like, what is going 429 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: on among like your friends, Like, do you have kind 430 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: of any anecdotal evidence of this that that shows kind 431 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: of yeah, that gen Z culture is is more conservative, 432 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: especially in this realm. 433 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 4: Part of it's because we've been sold on soulnessness for 434 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 4: so long hours. Our culture and our media has encouraged 435 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 4: us to believe hookup culture and just random hookups are 436 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 4: totally fine and it's liberating. But at the end of 437 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 4: the day, it's not because you become emotionally attached to people, 438 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 4: and that's something that our big corporations just haven't been 439 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 4: able to grasp onto. Finally, Tinders looking at that Tender 440 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 4: is afraid they're noticing this changing in our culture. They're 441 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 4: noticing that gen Z at the end of the day, 442 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: where reverting back to where human instincts, which say, yes, 443 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 4: we need to make connections with people. You can't just 444 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 4: have very a personal you can't have a sexual relationship 445 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 4: with someone without having the relationship first and it seems 446 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,239 Speaker 4: like Tinder is falling in line with that. 447 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 3: They don't want to lose customers, so they're. 448 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 4: Acquiescing acquiescing it, and I think this is a very 449 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 4: good move because previously, unfortunately, I haven't ever seen a 450 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 4: good story come out of Tinder. Maybe this time we 451 00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 4: will finally have one. 452 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: For yeah, Antiviany. It does seem like this is not 453 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: it's not market driven, like Tinder is not like oh sorry, sorry, 454 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: it is market driven. It's not tenders coming out of 455 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: the goodness of their hearts. I think we need to 456 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: adjust socided this way. No, they have financial interests and 457 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: people just aren't using it as much. I guess what 458 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: does that say about gen Z? And do you also 459 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: have hope for the future as as I do at 460 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: least minimal glimmer here at the very. 461 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 5: I literally did an entire podcast episode on this because 462 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 5: dating apps, I think are an atrocity to humanity. 463 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: So what you're looking at it's twofold, right. 464 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 5: Yes, they are not some altruistic five oh one c 465 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,239 Speaker 5: three out to do God's work. They are businesses who 466 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 5: need to make money. And when they see that, gen 467 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 5: Z is like, you. 468 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: Know what, we're kind of sick of having casual, meaningless 469 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 3: hook up sex. We actually are really lonely. 470 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 5: They're the most isolated and most depressed and lonely generation 471 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 5: we've ever had. And it's because they are digital natives 472 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 5: who have been raised through screens, who often are incapable 473 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 5: of understanding like normal basic human interaction. These these people 474 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 5: are raised and I think it comes down to this, 475 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 5: It's virtue. It's a lack of virtue. It's a lack 476 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 5: of courage, and it's a lack of you know, these 477 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 5: young kids don't know how to you know, if they 478 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 5: see a cute girl across the room, to pluck up 479 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 5: the courage to walk across the room and introduce themselves. 480 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: That is that is pure terror for a lot of them. 481 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 5: And a lot of them, you know, we're in high 482 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 5: school during COVID, or we're in college during COVID, and 483 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 5: so they were often ostracized and isolated even more to 484 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 5: a greater degree. And so what you're seeing is, yes, hope. 485 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 5: But also you look at now the rise of AI, 486 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 5: the rise of these dating chat bots that you see 487 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 5: a lot of you know, young men kind of gravitating 488 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 5: toward And I think we have we have real reason 489 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 5: to be deeply concerned for the future of gen Z 490 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 5: for the fact that we have a real population decline 491 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 5: and all that goes with it. 492 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be really interesting to see. I 493 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: hope they kind of keep the pace. I would love 494 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: to see a culture that gets back to Uh, I'm 495 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: going to kill an elk and bring it to their 496 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: father as a gift in helps of courting their daughter. 497 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: That's what I want to see going forward in our culture. 498 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 6: Uh. 499 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 1: Tiffany justin thank you guys so much for joining us. 500 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: Really appreciate you taking the time. We'll have you back. 501 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 3: Great to be back to you. 502 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: Thank you. Coming up next. A clip from outs Clark's 503 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: a culture apothecary podcast produced by Turning Point USA. Don't 504 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: go away, We'll be right back after this. 505 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 8: What are some signs that somebody could have an autoimmune 506 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 8: disease besides that and not even know it. 507 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 9: Some of the things that I would look out for 508 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 9: if you are again, if you're a moody teenager, if 509 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 9: you're losing hair, if you're having a weight gain. Although 510 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,239 Speaker 9: not everybody with autoimmune thyroid disease is going to have 511 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 9: weight gain, some people might have excessive weight loss. We 512 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 9: might have brain fog, we might have palpitations, we might 513 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 9: have a loss of the upper third part of the eyebrows. 514 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 9: Person might have trouble regulating their body temperature. So we 515 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 9: typically think of the advanced hypothyroidism as you're cold all 516 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 9: the time, but in the early stages, it might be 517 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 9: you're hot all the time, so you are a teenager 518 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 9: or a young woman that's wearing a short skirt out 519 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 9: of cold, snowy winter day. And other symptoms might include 520 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 9: just feeling depressed and feeling sluggish. Women in their twenties 521 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 9: notoriously might have irritable bowel syndrome. They might have multiple miscarriages. 522 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 9: And I feel like you know, thyroid hormone impacts every 523 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 9: single cell in the body, so the symptoms might feel 524 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 9: very nonspecific, and people oftentimes will get a diagnosis of depression, anxiety, 525 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 9: or it's all in your head right, or you have 526 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 9: forked to mouth disease if you're gaining weight. But anybody 527 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 9: with these symptoms deserves to get a full thyroid panel. 528 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 8: I was experiencing, I mean, yeah, extreme fatigue in the morning, 529 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 8: like just very very hard for me to get moving 530 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 8: and get out of bed, like just felt like I had, like, 531 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 8: you know, two hundred xras pounds like weigh me down, 532 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 8: trying to like get up and get moving, just never 533 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 8: feeling well rested, major joint pain. My nails were constantly breaking, 534 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 8: could not stop my nails breaking, losing tons of hair 535 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 8: so much so that my hair colorist was like, hey, 536 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 8: I think you have something going on your thyroid because 537 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 8: you're losing way more than you should in a hair wash. 538 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 8: So thank God for her, because it was she was 539 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 8: the reason why I then like kind of asked about 540 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 8: it and looked into it. Otherwise I never would have known. So, yeah, 541 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 8: those were some of the things that I was experiencing 542 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 8: as well. In your opinion, what do you think is 543 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 8: responsible for this rapid uptick in autoimmune disease. 544 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 9: It's a challenging question, but I do feel like a 545 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 9: lot of the reasons are because of our food quality 546 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 9: and because of the toxins in our environment. So looking 547 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 9: at the rates of thyroid disorders and frozen blood right 548 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 9: from twenty thirty forty fifty years ago, we have lower 549 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 9: rates of hashimotos antibodies than autoimmune thyroid antibodies. But these 550 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 9: days the rates are going to be higher and higher, 551 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 9: and I do think the environment is responsible for this. 552 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you're really onto something there, and then 553 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 8: also tell me if this is true or not. But 554 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 8: I heard that being on birth control for ten years 555 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 8: or more can increase your likelihood like over two hundred 556 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 8: and thirty percent of developing autoimmune. 557 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 9: Unfortunately, this is correct. A recent study just came out 558 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 9: connecting birth control pills to higher rates of autoimmune thyroid disease. 559 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 9: I had suspected this as a practicing pharmacist, that proton 560 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 9: pump inhibitors and antibiotics as well as birth control pills 561 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 9: can contribute to this, but the research is now out 562 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 9: there confirming this. Unfortunately, what is life like for somebody 563 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 9: with hashimotives that their significant other should understand? I think 564 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 9: people who are who love somebody with hashimotos should know 565 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 9: that we don't necessarily try to be difficult. We are 566 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 9: not lazy. We're not trying to make your life harder. 567 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 9: A lot of the times, our energy is so so 568 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 9: severely impacted by hashimotos that it is tough to get 569 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 9: out of bed in the mornings. It is tough to 570 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 9: do basic day to day tasks. 571 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 7: Right. 572 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 9: I know that before I was diagnosed, I had this 573 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 9: label of being lazy because when I was in pharmacy school, 574 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 9: I would wake up and go to school every day 575 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 9: and do my studies. But on the weekends I would 576 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 9: be sleeping until noon, and my parents and my brother 577 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 9: and a lot of my friends would make fun of me. 578 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 9: They would say, Isabelle is just so lazy, right, she 579 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 9: is just so lazy. She just wants to sit around 580 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 9: all day. She sleeps until noon. You are just such 581 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 9: a lazy person. And that is absolutely not the truth. 582 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 9: A lot of people with hashimotos, with autoimune thyraid disease, 583 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 9: they might be very, very ambitious and motivated people, but 584 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 9: they just lack the energy to really go after their dreams. 585 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 9: And I think this is very, very devastating for a 586 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 9: lot of people. It's also an invisible illness, and so 587 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 9: a lot of our friends and family members and loved 588 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 9: ones might not be able to know how much effort 589 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 9: it actually takes us to show up right to go 590 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 9: to our restaurant and celebrate with girlfriends. Sometimes we might 591 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 9: need three days to recover from that. Literally that that 592 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 9: is the thing is that I. 593 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 8: Will go and I'm like man, maybe I'm just more 594 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 8: introverted than I thought that I was, but in reality 595 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 8: it just might be hashimotos is that when I am 596 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 8: at an event or an activity for multiple hours, like 597 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 8: talking to people NonStop or whatever, I am so exhausted, 598 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 8: but like it's really beyond like what's explainable, Like I 599 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 8: do need like a day or two. I'm like, I 600 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 8: can't go out tomorrow, like I went out last night, 601 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 8: but it was like just a long dinner or something 602 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 8: like that where I had to really talk to people 603 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 8: and be social and I just am so tired. But 604 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 8: I wonder if that plays a part in it. If 605 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 8: an autoimmune disease is left untreated for too long, what 606 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 8: kind of damage can that potentially do to the body. 607 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 9: Unfortunately, autoimmunity is progressive, and so we might start off 608 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 9: with a person having an autoimmune attack against their thyroid gland. 609 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 9: Initially you're gonna have symptoms of that, and eventually you're 610 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 9: gonna have your thyroid damage to the point where you 611 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 9: need to get on thyroid hormones forever. Right, Because it's 612 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 9: so much easier to prevent damage than it is to 613 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 9: restore and regrow a thyroid gland. The thing that not 614 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 9: a lot of people understand though, is that it can 615 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 9: further progress into other autoimmune disorders. So unfortunately, in some cases, 616 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 9: I've seen people with grave disease or hashimotos where they 617 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 9: just get on thyroid medications or perhaps they have their 618 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 9: thyroid gland removed, and they think that this is it, 619 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 9: that this is all they need to do, but then 620 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 9: they end up with another type of autoimmune condition like 621 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 9: rheumatoid arthritis or lupis and soiatic arthritis. And it's something 622 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 9: that I feel like more people need to know about. 623 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 9: And this is why I'm so passionate about root causes. 624 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 9: And it's like, what is actually driving you to have 625 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 9: this autoimmune dysfunction? Right? 626 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 8: Is there any connection between hashimotos and potential infertility. 627 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 9: There's a huge between hashimotos and infertility. It's really really 628 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 9: heartbreaking because so many women in their twenties and their thirties, 629 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 9: in their early forties, they can have multiple miscarriages and 630 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 9: nobody thinks to test their thyroid function when their thyroid 631 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 9: antibodies are elevated. This can also be a reason as 632 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 9: well as when they don't have enough thyroid hormone on 633 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 9: board and it's really really devastating. I feel like thyroid 634 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 9: testing should be I think that every woman should get 635 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 9: when she thinks about starting to have children, but it's 636 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 9: not part of the standard panel. 637 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, So what is the exact thing that we need 638 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 8: to ask for when getting blood? We're done to tell 639 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 8: if we have an autoimmune disease or not. So in 640 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 8: addition to the TSH, which is the thyroid stimulating hormone, 641 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 8: we also want to ask for thyroid antibodies. These are 642 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 8: thyroid peroxides antibodies and thyroglobulin antibodies are the two most 643 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 8: common antibodies in hashimotos and they can be elevated for five, ten, 644 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 8: fifteen years before a change in TSH is seen, before 645 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 8: a change in thyroid hormones is seen. And if you 646 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 8: have these antibodies and they're elevated and your quote unquote 647 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 8: thyroid function is still normal, this is going to be 648 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 8: the best time for you to take action on your 649 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 8: health to get rid of those symptoms, to get rid 650 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 8: of those antibodies, to get the autoimmunity into remission and 651 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 8: prevent a lifelong need for medication and prevent so many symptoms. 652 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 8: What should somebody's first steps be who was just diagnosed 653 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 8: with hashimotos. So they're listening to this podcast, they're like, Oh, 654 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 8: I just was told I had this and they don't 655 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 8: know anything about it or what to do now. 656 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 9: Definitely educate yourself, so I recommend being an empowered patient. 657 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 9: This is going to be huge on your healing journey. 658 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 9: If you know the state of conventional medicine in this country, unfortunately, 659 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,479 Speaker 9: you will know that there are many doctors out there. 660 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 9: Many of them are well meaning, but they just don't 661 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 9: know what they don't know. And there's a ton of 662 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 9: research and a ton of resources out there that can 663 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 9: help you take charge of your health to feel better. 664 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 9: The few things that I found that are incredibly helpful 665 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 9: for women with thyroid disorders and hashimotos are going to 666 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 9: be dietary triggers. So getting off of gluten, dairy, and 667 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 9: soy for about ninety days for many women, this can 668 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 9: get the autoimmune condition into remission. There's also nutrient efficiencies 669 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 9: that can be really really relevant in thyroid dysfunction, soelenium 670 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 9: and myoanocetol. In those very very early stages when the 671 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 9: TSH is just slightly elevated and the thyroid antibodies are high. 672 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 9: This can normalize thyroid function for many women and get 673 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 9: rid of a lot of the symptoms. Beyond that, I 674 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 9: would also look at supporting your detox pathways, supporting your 675 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 9: stress response, as well as looking at your gut health, 676 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 9: like what is happening inside of your gut. There's a 677 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 9: huge connection between the gut and autoimmune disease. 678 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 10: Immediately, Nobods thought about you, who's just twenty four to 679 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 10: seven flooding the zone. Back to my thirteen year old 680 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 10: owning this space every day, getting a convert and then 681 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 10: I'm thinking about we're gonna stand back and watch you 682 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 10: run circles around us. 683 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 11: He said it best at Turning Point USA. We're relentless. 684 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 11: We're changing minds on campuses every semester, defending conservative values 685 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 11: and fighting for America's future. Your donation helps keep us 686 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 11: on campus. Join the movement and donate to TPUSA today. 687 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: TPUSA dot com. That's where you want to go to 688 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: find out all of the information. Welcome back to Turning 689 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: Points tonight. 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You are such an inspiration 708 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: to the wokes out there. When people complain about Doge 709 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: making cuts to the federal government and making cuts to 710 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: people who are supposedly in need, I want those people 711 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: to see this video. This is the wokest of the wokes. 712 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: This is the thing that we have the biggest problem with. 713 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: Watch this. I'm not sure if we're going to watch 714 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: the whole thing because it's disgusting and it gives me 715 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: the ick. But watch this. 716 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 12: What do I do for work? 717 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 2: I shall't. 718 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 12: I'm professionally disabled, and his job. 719 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: Is taking care of the profession. 720 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 12: He gets paid for taking care of me. 721 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 11: Instead of doing. 722 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 6: It for free. 723 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 7: Here. 724 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, because let's be for real, sometimes taking care 725 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 13: of it, I have to hate you. I have to 726 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 13: make sure you're sometimes I have to take you out 727 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 13: for imaghment. 728 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 12: You sometimes have to dress me because I won't dress myself. 729 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 13: Yeah, you're literally not dressed. 730 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 3: Now. 731 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 12: You have to make sure that I take my socks 732 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 12: off because sometimes I forget I'm wearing socks, and then 733 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 12: I cry about it, and then you're like, are you 734 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 12: wearing socks? And then I looked out and I'm wearing socks, 735 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 12: and then I stopped crying. 736 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 13: And I have to make sure you take your medication. 737 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 12: Yeah. 738 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 13: And I have to clean up after you because you're 739 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 13: capable of doing it most physically. I have to do 740 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 13: your laundry. You can't get up on the stairs. 741 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, yeah. 742 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: Okay, uh. I hope that you have some good cleaner 743 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: in your house to clean up the puke that you 744 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 1: probably have vomited all over the floor, all over the couch, everywhere. 745 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: It's just so much vomit in so many homes in 746 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: the United States, and I apologize for that. But at 747 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 1: the same time, people need to see how willing other 748 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: people are to flat out freaking steel from other people, 749 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: from other Americans, from taxpayers. That is theft, that is 750 00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: just and the willingness to brag about it blows my mind. Like, look, 751 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: if you're a criminal, don't talk about the crimes publicly, 752 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: openly in front of everybody to see the crime that 753 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: you're committing. Do crime better, not advocating for crime. This 754 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: is not a This is not me condoning crime in 755 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. But if you're going to, 756 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: don't be so open about it, which is the actual problem. 757 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: People feel like this, these entitlements are so untouchable that 758 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: I can just tell everyone about it. It makes me 759 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: grind my gears. That's why you need to cut programs 760 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: of people who are milking the system like this. That's 761 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: gonna do it for us today. Wow, I'm angry, and 762 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: I hope you are too. Charlie's gonna take us out. 763 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow, same time, same place. God bless America. 764 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 11: It is so hard to realign a government back to 765 00:40:54,360 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 11: constitutional purposes. This place wears you down, This place grinds 766 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 11: you down to a halt. 767 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 2: It exists. The permanent machine. 768 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 11: Bureaucracy exists to extinguish the will of a well meaning 769 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 11: mister Smith goes to Washington. The bureaucracy intentionally plays things slow. 770 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 11: It intentionally will obfuscate, it will delay, it will shrug 771 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 11: its shoulders, it will say it has to go to 772 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 11: a certain committee. It is a war of attrition, you see, 773 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 11: the permanent deep state bureaucracy. They say, oh, really, you 774 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 11: guys want to doze us, you want to cut our spending, 775 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 11: We will outlast you. We're going to be here despite 776 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 11: when there's elections. And that actually was the original intent 777 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 11: of Woodrow Wilson, the Wilsonian view of government, which is 778 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 11: to have a technocracy of elites, of the ruling class 779 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 11: of the philosopher kings. As Plato would say, that they're 780 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 11: going to be there permanently, and elections matter less. 781 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 2: And less. 782 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 11: And that is one of the questions that is in 783 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 11: front of us. And this is exactly why I want 784 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 11: to get into this idea of triple trending counties. It's 785 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 11: a theme that we talk about a lot here on 786 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 11: this program because what we're seeing unfold Washington, DC. And 787 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 11: I was meeting with some White House staff last night 788 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 11: and they are working so hard and they deserve such 789 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 11: credit because the energy alone just to get basic stuff done, 790 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 11: it will it will take your entire afternoon to just 791 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 11: get a very simple thing done. Where in the private 792 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 11: sector at turning Point, USA, I say it and it 793 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 11: gets done. I want to have an event on this day, Yes, 794 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 11: Charlie will do that. 795 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 2: Thank you. We want to have this speaker. Yes, we 796 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 2: will do that. Thank you. Where in this White House? 797 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 11: Because of the deep state government, It's like I want 798 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 11: to go to Saudi Arabia, Well you might have to 799 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,240 Speaker 11: do this this this and only because of President Trump's 800 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 11: brute force is he able to be this productive. If 801 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 11: you remember, is Joe Biden staffers that came out and 802 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 11: they said, I wish we worked for a White House 803 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,280 Speaker 11: when Joe Biden was president. 804 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 2: That was as agile, that was as. 805 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 11: Problem solving as entrepreneurial as President Trump. But the struggle 806 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 11: in front of us is will elections. 807 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 2: Continue to matter? 808 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 11: Or will elections be ceremonial no different than putting in 809 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 11: the King of England as someone who is there to 810 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 11: greet Super Bowl champions, cut ribbons, fly around the country 811 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 11: and be nothing more than a glorified spokesperson for the country. 812 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 11: Are we looking at a similar presidency that is, a 813 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 11: presidency in name only, no different than the monarchy in 814 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 11: the United Kingdom. The New York Times did a amazing 815 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 11: story this last weekend, and I got to be honest, 816 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 11: every so often the New York Times just crushes it 817 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 11: with their data analysis. 818 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 2: You just got to you got to call strikes. 819 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 11: The New York Times, which by the way, is like 820 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 11: the least radical of all the rags. The Washington Post 821 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 11: has gone. I mean, there's so many of these that 822 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,959 Speaker 11: are just gone. The New York Times every so often 823 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 11: has a little glimmer of hope that they still are 824 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 11: holding on too. Wanted to be a respectable newspaper. And 825 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 11: Andrew will tell you we deal with reporters in every 826 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 11: single major outlet. At least the New York Times will 827 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,320 Speaker 11: allow us to talk to them. Some of these major outlets, 828 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 11: they won't even take your phone call anyway. So what 829 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 11: the New York Times did is they did a story 830 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 11: of how all the counties, basically, how many counties have 831 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,240 Speaker 11: been moving right in America in the last three presidential elections. 832 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 11: And that what was so interesting about what the New 833 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 11: York Times did well the New York Times that as 834 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 11: they analyze the twenty sixteen, the twenty twenty, and the 835 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 11: twenty twenty four electoral map, because that is now three 836 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 11: election cycles over the course of a decade, of whether 837 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 11: or not this is a permanent right wing shift in 838 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 11: our country. And the visuals are very powerful. We gonna 839 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 11: put them up on screen. They are dramatic, and they 840 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 11: coined a term and I like it and I want 841 00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 11: to emphasize it. 842 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 2: Let's get the the actual national map up on screen. 843 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 11: So what you're seeing here is the percentage with a 844 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 11: college degree by county that shifted right. If you're on 845 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 11: podcasting or radio, We're gonna put this up on screen. 846 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 11: But the big one is two twenty. Let's put two 847 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 11: twenty up on screen. I want to get this framed 848 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 11: in our office because that just goes to show the 849 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,439 Speaker 11: behemoth of the work that we accomplished at turning Point 850 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 11: action alongside obviously President Trump and the entire team and 851 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 11: the social media juggernaut. The entire country moved to the right. 852 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 11: It's not just one localized area. Now, there were some 853 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 11: places in America that moved to the left. Let's put 854 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 11: this up on screen. The suburbs of Atlanta, big problems, everybody. 855 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 2: Huge. 856 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 11: In fact, the suburbs of Atlanta were and the exurbs 857 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 11: of Atlanta were the most left leaning, left tilting per 858 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 11: capita of any counties in the country in the last 859 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:52,760 Speaker 11: three election cycles. The suburbs of Denver, Santa Fe, New Mexico, 860 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 11: a couple places in Oklahoma, a couple places in Central Indiana. 861 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 11: And so we have a Georgia problem. We're going to 862 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 11: diagnose that. We're going to do another entire show on 863 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 11: that at a different time. Dallas a little bit, but 864 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 11: nothing too noteworthy. But again, let's go back to the REDMP. 865 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 11: I mean, these are the counties that, just just to 866 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 11: go to be clear, let's go back. These are the 867 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 11: counties that moved right in all three elections that Trump 868 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 11: ran in. Almost fifty million people live in these counties, 869 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 11: So this is not just some sample size, and these 870 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 11: are counties that were otherwise Blue strongholds. As you can 871 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 11: see in Florida, every single county moves dramatically to the right. 872 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 11: So basically what the New York Times put together is 873 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 11: something called triple trending counties. These are counties that trended 874 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 11: to the right in all three elections that were previously 875 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 11: controlled by Democrats. The first of which is something a 876 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 11: county called Clinton County, New York. The historical trend was 877 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 11: that it was traditionally a Democrat leaning county. Clinton County, 878 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 11: New York is a great example of how the Republican 879 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 11: Party has remade the electorate and read the political map 880 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 11: in recent elections. In two thousand and eight, Barack Obama 881 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 11: won it by twenty two points. In twenty twenty, Joe 882 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 11: Biden won it by five point two points, but in 883 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 11: twenty twenty four, Donald Trump flipped the county, winning by 884 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 11: two points. Another good one to look at is Suffolk County, 885 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,760 Speaker 11: considered a swing county with fluctuating support between both parties. 886 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 11: In twenty twenty, Donald Trump won it by two hundred 887 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 11: and thirty two votes, but in twenty twenty four, Donald 888 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 11: Trump secured fifty four percent of the vote, the highest percentage. 889 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 2: Since nineteen eighty eight. That is Suffolk County, New York. 890 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 11: And then, of course there's the Wow counties, which we've 891 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 11: done a lot of work in Wisconsin, waukeshaw Ozaqui, and Washington. 892 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 11: In twenty twenty, Donald Trump received sixty percent of the 893 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 11: vote in these counties, and he did even better in 894 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 11: twenty twenty four. 895 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 2: These are triple. 896 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 11: Trending counties, which shows that the entire country, absent a 897 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,320 Speaker 11: couple of little pockets, is moving to the right. 898 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:57,399 Speaker 2: Why is this