1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Media. I am stealing this man's time, bro one of 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: my I like the trip to me ab solutely talk 3 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: some more. 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, check one two, want two? 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: You're talking little more than that. 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, check one two one two one two, want too? 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: Maybe get closer to the mic? Oh yeah, I didn't know. 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I need to. I thought you 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: was gonna get levels. I was like, get levels, But 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: you've got the mic way over there, cat like in 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: your arm pits. Why is the mic in your arm pit? 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: Check one two one two one two one two. 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: Okay, that's way better. All right, Okay, so we might 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: even I might even keep this in the show because 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: it's funny. 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: All right. 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: So this is the last terrorforming episode of the year. 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: As y'all know, if you just new to the show, 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: what I try to do in the midst of whatever 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: burning building our news has been And we're recording this 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: on Da Delus Morthos. So I don't know who the 22 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: president is yet. This is gonna come out, and when 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: it comes out, we may not we still may not 24 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: go crazy. 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we got wait till January. 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: Six, until the next until the next insurrection. 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: Oh my go that's crazy. 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: You think they gonna. I'm my My feeling is no 29 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: one's gonna accept the results. 30 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bro, I ain't gonna. I try to be in 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 3: Africa like every end of the December anyway. I just 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: want to be in Ghana and not worried about it. Bro, 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: I'll come back when they figure it out. Speaking, I 34 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: feel you. 35 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: Who is on this mic right now is a young 36 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: man who I met a long time ago, who is 37 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: doing some amazing things in Memphis, Tennessee with coffee. This 38 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: is Can I call you coffee black? Or should I 39 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: call you a bar? 40 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: Everybody does? They call me a neighborhood a coffee? 41 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: He called his boy coffee this is coffee black, a 42 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: bar coffee. I talked about him on the It Can 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: Happen Here podcast when I talked about that, like, we've 44 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: only got twenty seven Harved's left unless we do something crazy. Yeah, 45 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: because crazy, it's only twenty seven of them left. 46 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: That's wow. 47 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, But we got a terrorformer here and in the 48 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: best way possible. You know, I can take a little 49 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: bit of credit for. 50 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bro, gonna say all the way back to Wheaton 51 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: College brat James, Yeah, but sir. 52 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I agree. I would love to be 53 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: in Africa by November eighth. 54 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, I'm not even gonna hold you. 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 3: Like, we're working on maybe doing this thing and kind 56 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: of like because one of the Brest Exchange participants who 57 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: didn't get a visa is ain't Ghana, and then another 58 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: homie is like doing his West African coffee project and 59 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, it's a lot of. 60 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: Reasons to not be here, bro. 61 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: Just plus you know, they just broke it to the 62 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: new jet, so I'm like, hey, the shop ban gonna 63 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: be anyway, so like I might as well. 64 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: So we're talking about things that we know that y'all don't. 65 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 1: You don't know what the Brest Exchange program is. You 66 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: don't know what the word junt means. It just means joint, 67 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: it means location, kosa. 68 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: Thing. I'm with it. 69 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the dang thang, the tilt the spot anyway. Uh 70 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: so let's let's back up for sure. So this is 71 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: a coffee company, a roaster, which is so much more 72 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: than that. It started as an education program, right, Yeah. 73 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: So I've been doing the pitch all weekend. 74 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so out here trying to get some bread. 75 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. 76 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: We halfway through our pre prec but so we're a 77 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: hip hop based coffee company out of Memphis, and to 78 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: see that sources coffee from pre colonial communities in Africa 79 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: through all black supply chain. Once we get the coffee, 80 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: we do three things with it. So we do storytelling 81 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: like we just sold a sitcom to HBO Max. We 82 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: do podcasting, music, documentaries, apparel, stuff like that. We also 83 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 3: do products, so we do CpG products, so like your 84 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: consumer packaged goods, the roasted coffee, do a ken coffee 85 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: call god brew is not co brew, it's gold brew. 86 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 2: I told you. 87 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: We do you know, instant coffee things like that. And 88 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 3: then we do creative placemaking, So we work with hip 89 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 3: hop artists, activists, our neighbors to train them about coffee 90 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 3: as one job training, but then two models for entrepreneurship, 91 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: and then three to reconnect them to their own heritage 92 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 3: through the coffees that we source from these communities. 93 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, it was. 94 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: It's a light bulb for most black people to realize 95 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: that coffee is an African fruit. 96 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: It was for me, Bro, I mean I remember when 97 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 3: you did Left coffee and like I was like sort 98 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: of getting into coffee and like I didn't know, I 99 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: was still kind of like I felt like I was 100 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: still trying to do my best, like hipstory barista, yeah 101 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: rendition when I was in these places and I saw 102 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 3: y'all rapping and like I still remember that Guatemalan joint 103 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: with the Mayer Lemon note, Oh my god, and being like, yeah, bro, 104 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: my wife got me the coffee because my wife was 105 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 3: the one who gave me shout out black woman, Like 106 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 3: she was the one who really gave me permission to 107 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: spend money on coffee, because like that was one of 108 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: them categories, like you could spend money on Jay's, but. 109 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: Like not on coffee. 110 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 3: It was like you you were considered wasteful growing up 111 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: if you was like doing anything like that, and that 112 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: she bought it for me and I had it, and 113 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 3: I just it was like seeing the style of music 114 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: that y'all wore bringing to it and like I was like, 115 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: I want to see something like that from my community 116 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: in Memphis. 117 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, the co chair for me, our 118 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: Ethiopian co chair for me. I was like, there's advotasting 119 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: nothing like this. You never got the Guatemalan second for 120 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: y'all that don't know. Once upon a time before terror 121 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: form my late record label that me and my friends 122 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: kind of founded. We also had a coffee company called 123 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: Left Roasters. 124 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, and. 125 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: We would so part of my like merch package was 126 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: you know, T shirts, hoodies and bounce bags of coffee. 127 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: You know, legal work. 128 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, legal work, you know what I'm saying. 129 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: And so so so, like he said, you know, you 130 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: have the business aspect, but the biggest part for why 131 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: I would think to have him on the show is 132 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: the community aspect. What's happening in Memphis and uh tell 133 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: him a little bit about the anti gentrification coffee club. 134 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 135 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: It was a joke to be honest, like he was 136 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: in the studio. Honestly, most of the if we did 137 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: start off as a joke in the studio. So it's 138 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: like Guji Man, which is like our best selling coffee 139 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: was like we was in the studio and had to 140 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: bring out of coffee, and so me and my homies 141 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 3: had to go to like the little history joint up 142 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: the street, and we was like, brother, it's stilling the vibe. 143 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: Like we didn't even want to rap anymore. 144 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 3: So it was like what what if it was a 145 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 3: brand that was like made since in the studio, it 146 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 3: would we all love coffee from the Guji Zone. 147 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Guji is a location in Ethio. 148 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in the southern region and it's in the. 149 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: Southern reason of the Reason of Ethiopia. 150 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 151 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: So it was like, well it would be, which is 152 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: actually fascinating to talk about. Why cofee from the Gooozi zone? 153 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: It is so dope, like to actually taught me to 154 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: yg who's like our social partner there before you do that. 155 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: So they named the coffee Gujie Maine. Yes, because let's 156 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: multi versus yes. I'm going to assume you don't know 157 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: any of this. There is a rapper named Gucci Maine. Okay, right, yo, 158 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: So Guji Maine is a play on that. Look I'm 159 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: not I'm just gonna assuming they assume. 160 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 161 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: And so for us, it was like if coffee had 162 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: always been black, what kind of names would we see? 163 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: What kind of brands we So that was the Guji 164 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: main thing. 165 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: It was a joke. 166 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: So same studio, we're chilling the pandemic is here that 167 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: our neighborhood community development organization who's been a fiduciary with 168 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: us for a minute, The Height Development Corporation Corp Corporization 169 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: Corporation was like they had this space they were trying 170 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: to use. It had been burned down. They were trying 171 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: to get somebody in the community to activate it. It 172 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: was like a like a freeze cup lady was there. 173 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: If you don't know what freeze cups are, it's like 174 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 3: kool aid, really really sweet kool aid. 175 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: Then people freezing the star real hood stuff. 176 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, some real like and you know, the business didn't 177 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: do well, so they were trying to get a business 178 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: in there, and they were like, y'all shit. 179 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: The coffee thing we were like shipping. 180 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: We had dropped the love Black People's shirts, like love 181 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: Black People, like you love Black Coffee was his shirt 182 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: we dropped during the George Floyd protests to like send 183 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: money to support bail bonds for activists and also just 184 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: to call out the like super super gentrified coffee industry. 185 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: And yeah, man, we were doing well online and like 186 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: we were just like trapping out of my house, my 187 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: wife's mother's house, Kenny's house. Who just pulled up, my homie, Kenny, 188 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: White Boy Kenny just pulled up and they literally everybody 189 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: thought we were selling drugs. I'm like no, we're not. 190 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: And we're like, yeah, we're roast and coffee, but it's 191 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: a lot of like traffic. I'm on Instagram in front 192 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 3: of my house. It's like it's kind of not a 193 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 3: good look at this point to be like moving this 194 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: much product just from my house. 195 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: And so the. 196 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: Neighborhood Community Development Org was like, well, you guys can 197 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 3: work out of this space in the neighborhood a couple 198 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 3: of minutes away. I'm like, all right, cool, And they 199 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: kept trying to push us to do coffee and I'm like, bro, 200 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: I'm not finish gentrified my neighborhood, Like I know one 201 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: hundred percent. As soon as I pop up with specialty 202 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: grade eighty eight point Ethiopian naturally processed goujie and it's 203 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 3: like hip and new and we're doing music, everybody's finna 204 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: pull up here and they're not gonna see my neighborhood 205 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 3: been drunk all night and they're gonna call the police 206 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: on this man, and it's gonna be George for again. 207 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 2: Like I'm not I don't want to see that. 208 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: And we had just had the issue with Starbucks right 209 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: in Philly where they had called the police. 210 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: I just didn't want to see it. 211 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: This is around that time, Yes, around the time we 212 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: pulled you in for Poor Gummy Fridays too. 213 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: Yes, bro. Yeah. 214 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: So I'm like, man, I just didn't want to see 215 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: that happened in my neighborhood. So I was like, bro, 216 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: if we did do something, it wouldn't even be it'd 217 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 3: be like an anti gentrification joint and it wouldn't even 218 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: be a coffee shop. It'd be like a like a 219 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: coffee club, like it was just for the homies, like 220 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 3: members only come join the club energy. And then like 221 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: the community development organization was like all right, bet yeah, 222 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: They're like all right, run. 223 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: It like anti gentification coffee club. Yeah. 224 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: And I'm like okay, but like how am i gonna 225 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: make money with that business concept? Like I'm head first 226 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 3: into the e commerce thing like everybody was. We had 227 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: just done like sixty K in a month. You know 228 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, I'm focused on I'm trying to do this, 229 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 3: you know, like not knowing that once people come back outside, 230 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: you actually gonna need you need to diversify your revenue streams. 231 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: So that's guy right there, shut out to yaweh. But 232 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: like I was like, I didn't think it made sense, 233 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: but I was like, if we do it, I'm not 234 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna be able to pay rent. 235 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: So we need like a sliding scale, and the coffee's expensive, 236 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: so I'm gonna want to give We say the first 237 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: ship is free. 238 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: I got neighbors on a thirty second ship. It's still free, 239 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 240 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: Like we were having it would be like a pay 241 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 3: what you can model, and like I would want to 242 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: employ people from the community and all this other stuff. 243 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 3: I didn't even have an espresso machine at first because 244 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: I was like, that's the colinizes. 245 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: So I told you on the other show espressos from Italy. 246 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why. Yeah. 247 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: And I was trying to highlight this pre colonial perspective 248 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 3: for what we were learning about, like the coffee ceremony 249 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: and Ethiopia, and eventually I would learn a lot more. 250 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: Right when we went to Guji, we went to tap 251 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: in with the Abogadas and out of Sins and learn 252 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: about the Godda system in Bunokalla and all these like 253 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: pre colonial even pre Jebena like methodologies and perspectives and 254 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 3: like philosophies. But at the time, I just knew, like 255 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: I wanted to connect people to the coffee itself. Yeah, 256 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 3: and I wanted to do that, and I wanted to 257 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: do it in a way that was one affordable, but 258 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 3: two still highlighted like this beautiful metaphor that I think 259 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 3: coffee represents to black people but also to all people 260 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: at the end of the day. And so like that's 261 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: the start of the anti gentrification Coffee Club. Now we've 262 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 3: been open. We started the end of the twenty twenty 263 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: one it's about to be the end of twenty twenty four, 264 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: so officially three years. 265 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, praise God. 266 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: Also step back. A jevnah yeah, yeah yeah. A jevna 267 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: is a clay pot that is traditionally used in Ethiopia 268 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: for Ethiopian coffee ceremonies, which I again I'm referencing the 269 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: It Can Happen Here episode where a lot of this stuff, 270 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: like I tried to walk y'all through. But so now 271 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: it's the world's first coffee pot. It's exactly, it's the 272 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: world's first pop coffee pot. 273 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 274 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: So I've been there to the to the spot and yeah, 275 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: they do a cipher. I'm going to assume you know 276 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: what a cipher is. So they set up beats, you know, 277 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: they set up like their MPs at different paths, and 278 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: they just and we just sat around in freestyled. It's 279 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: a very it's a very beautiful experience. And it's an 280 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: experience that is the question that like, going back to 281 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: something you said earlier, like I told y'all four seasons ago, 282 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: something a term called hintification, which is a Spanish term 283 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: because hint they just means my people. Right, So in 284 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: the Latino community, if you were to say, what if, 285 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: what does gentrification look like if we were doing it 286 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: to ourselves, So they call it hintification. Wow, So you 287 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: see this picture right here, like, okay, that's hintification. That's 288 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: like so the way that it's like we're still it's 289 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: still graffiti, it's still la you know what I'm saying. 290 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: But that is y'all can't see this obviously, but that's 291 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: a escaleta from Diadelli's werthows, you know what I'm saying. 292 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, there's a spot down the 293 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: street out here called I told you before, called tiert 294 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: A MIAs A. It's a third wave coffee shop, but 295 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: it's pon dulce, it's for chopa lattes. It's like Wahakan chocolate. 296 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: Like it's all very Mexican stuff. And it don't look 297 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: like a coffee shop. It looks like a pan naia 298 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: where your grandma would go every morning to go get 299 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: her breakfast. Little ponds, you know what I'm saying. So, 300 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: so they're like, this is you know, we did this. Yeah, 301 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: So there's a term for it in the Latino community. 302 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: It's called henthification. Right, So essentially that question is, like, 303 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: what would it look like if we were gonnatrol our 304 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: own future? And like you said, it was never interrupted 305 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: as an American, especially an African American, Like it's it's 306 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: hard for us to imagine if you because we don't 307 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: live in that type of land, if the indigenous American 308 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: was not sectioned off or wiped out, if they were 309 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: allowed to flourish alongside of the culture that we exist 310 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: in now, Like if they were done properly, allowed to 311 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: be a part of the American system and their way. 312 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: Like I wonder what our healthcare system would look like 313 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: right now. I wonder what our education system would look 314 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: like right now, What types of foods would be considered 315 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: the American diet, like you know what I'm saying, Like 316 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: if we'd actually listen to the natives and they'd be 317 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: like that don't grow here. You have to change the 318 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: soil to make this grow here. And there are locations 319 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: like I know because I tour so much around Native 320 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: populations that in their world there are they didn't stop existing. 321 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: They continue to exist like that, and in modern Native 322 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: towns you can see, you know what I'm saying, But 323 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: it was still interrupt that wisdom was interrupted by a 324 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: colonizing force. So for us as African America is the 325 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: same thing, like it's interrupted that to the point to 326 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: where it is what it is. But like you said, 327 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: like we have our connection to our indigenous soil, like 328 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: my like my wife, she understands Nawak, she understands Spanish, 329 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: she understands, you know what I'm saying, a continual understanding 330 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: of her ancestry. We don't have that, Like don't even 331 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: know what part of Africa I'm guessing, you know what 332 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I think this part you know what 333 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying, But that the the what you're doing is 334 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: using the catalyst of coffee to try to reclaim that 335 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: tie to our ancestral yes history, and. 336 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: That's what that's So, this is how amazing the most 337 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: ig is. 338 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: It's like, this is the thing that I learned from 339 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 3: these coffee elders of baganizing of sins and this whole 340 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: social system called the Goddess system where coffee is like this, uh, 341 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 3: it's a sacred plant right within the system is that 342 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: they believe coffee was a gift from the most High, 343 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: from the divine, from the singular creator God to re 344 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: establish peace after man's first transgression. And so the plant 345 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: was given to like read the blessing Buna Naga Hindabina, 346 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: which is like a traditional coffee blessing, especially in like 347 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: the southern region with the Oromo people who kind of 348 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: curated this perspective is mayor house lack no coffee nor peace. 349 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: But my favorite translation is wherever there is coffee, there 350 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: must also be peace. And so the belief is that 351 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: the coffee is the is a plant that represents an 352 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: opportunity for us to re establish a contract or a 353 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: covenant of peace between ourselves and the creator, ourselves and 354 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: the land, and then ourselves and each other. Yeah, and 355 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: like that's what it was meant to do. So when 356 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: I'm here and these people are looking at me and 357 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: they're like, welcome home, bro, Like this plant brought you back. 358 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: Home, you know what I'm saying. And it was meant 359 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: to reconnect you to us and to even for. 360 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: My wife and I. 361 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: They made us honorary a boganizing out of SINC in 362 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 3: November for the first half of the Baristic Exchange program, 363 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 3: which we missed you on. 364 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: We definitely got to run that. 365 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: Back next time. I'm coming. 366 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: I was I was being. 367 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: I was being selfless. 368 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: No, you did what you have to do. 369 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't get in trouble on my behalf. You use 370 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: having business, but to shout out you one. You were 371 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 3: on the board for the first effort Pan African Blackburist 372 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 3: ex Change program. 373 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: We hustled with Vanderbilt and Better. 374 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: Which is explain it. So the idea was us over 375 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: here in America get to see specialty coffee third wave 376 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: sort of situations. So we're at the other end of 377 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: the supply chain where it's fancy, blitzy, beautiful. We get 378 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: to do the you know Poindexter, you know, full extraction 379 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: depth over decaf like really like first world experience for 380 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: coffee being very pompous, right, But most people here have 381 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: never seen, especially Black bearistas. I've never seen the soil 382 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: like they've never seen where it comes from. And the 383 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: connections that Bart and I are coffee Black and I 384 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: are making because we've seen coffee at at origin in Africa, 385 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: that connections already made for us. 386 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 3: And not only have we seen coffee, we've seen pre colonial, yes, 387 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: fully self expressed and autonomous coffee cultures. 388 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: Coffee that was not interrupted by anything. We've gotten to 389 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: see that. So this is the like balling, crying, getting 390 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: back into your van, going back to the hotel, just 391 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: unconsolable crying. 392 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: Like like that, yes, I can't believe. 393 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Just like like feeling like 394 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: you've been robbed from your childhood of like we don't 395 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: know who we are and then can't and then having 396 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: to try to go back to America and try to 397 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: explain to Pooky and them like nigga, we are more. 398 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, We can say nigga. Okay. 399 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: So that's the thing I think too, is like I 400 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: don't know if you're following way before. Don't forget that thought. 401 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: I want to explain the Brees Exchange program. 402 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: Yes, keep going. 403 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: So so the idea was, first half, let's take American 404 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: black American baristas and bring them to Africa so they 405 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: can see it and they can meet baristas out there, 406 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: meet farmers. 407 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: Meet the thing. 408 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: And then the second half was bring coffee professionals from 409 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: Africa to America, which was the heart by far that 410 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: we haven't even debriefed on that already. 411 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 2: Know. We just wrapped that part up. 412 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: I actually hit the group chat, but that was by 413 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 3: far the most beautiful and also the most difficult, but. 414 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: The most worth it. 415 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you can't just get a visa, Like that's 416 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: the problem, Like you can't just so we've had people 417 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: that we were like and then it sucks cause it's 418 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: like you're almost feeding into this socio economics stratification of culture, 419 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: this system of like haves and have nots and privilege 420 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, because it's like you're trying to 421 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: open it to people that can get here, but it's 422 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: like I can't. I can't tell your government to release 423 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: a visa for you for you to go to America 424 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: because of geopolitics, and some of that just has to 425 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: do with we just don't trade with that company country. 426 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: So because we don't trade with that country, you can't 427 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: come here. And now us saying well, I'm sorry, you 428 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: can't come is enforcing this system that is keeping you 429 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: a developed country. 430 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 2: And this is what I say. 431 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 3: When they brought my African ancestors over, there was no 432 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 3: visa requiirrems, no visa was everybody. So like, now I 433 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 3: want to bring my coffee cousins over. You know what 434 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: I'm saying, shut out coffee cousins, merge covery soon. Well, 435 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 3: now I want to bring my coffee cousins over. And 436 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: it's a problem. And it really really it was like 437 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: this experience of trying to reclaim what I believe is 438 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: a like biblical mandate for like blood lines to have 439 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 3: the opportunity to produce a certain fruit. Like there's this 440 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 3: perspective of like in the Book of Revelation where every 441 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 3: nation is going to bring their crowns and lay them 442 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: at the feet of God. And so like I remember 443 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 3: being in Wheaton College, right and asking these questions, like 444 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 3: what does that mean, Like they're going to have like 445 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: a physical crown. And the perspective my professor told me 446 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: was this is actually their cultural treasures. So every bloodline 447 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: or nation or tongue or whatever has the idea was 448 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: they have these certain outputs that they've been given the 449 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: capacity to produce. 450 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: Wow, you know what I'm saying. 451 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: And like part of my frustration and wrestle with my 452 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: faith was I feel like our bloodline has been. 453 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: Like like hobbled and like what we were given to 454 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: bring to the world to present. 455 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 3: As like a reflection the image of God never had 456 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 3: the capacity to operate without being a handicapped, you know 457 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And I'm like, why are we playing 458 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: with a handicap? Like why I gotta play with the 459 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 3: deflated ball? 460 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: Like let me ball? 461 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 3: Like let me oh, because it's gonna be beautiful and 462 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: the whole world is gonna benefit and it's gonna glorify 463 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 3: our creator and it's going to be amazing, and like 464 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 3: so much like don't y'all know y'all love it when 465 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 3: we get busy, Just let us cook, let us don't 466 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: don't you know you finna eat? Like just quit playing 467 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: and let us cook, because it's gonna bless the world. 468 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 3: It's gonna bless our creator. And like to realize all 469 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 3: the way back to coffee that it was. This is 470 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 3: one of those things that our blood literally is in 471 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: our soil, and it only exists. All one hundred and 472 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: twenty species of the cafe a plant, whether we're talking 473 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 3: about arabbaica or Conifera or Siniphala or liberica or you genoid, 474 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: these whatever, they all and then all of their varietals. 475 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: Speaking of Typica, all of the thousands of varietals, tens 476 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: of thousands of varietals of each species, they're all here right, 477 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 3: And the world has only experienced a tiny, little, medium, 478 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 3: tiny fraction of this. Because the only way we're willing 479 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: to engage with our root is if when I say, 480 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 3: we know what the world is. 481 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: Willing to engage with our root is if they get 482 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: to control the fruit. 483 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 3: And it's like, just let the root cook and honor it, 484 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 3: and you will get so much more diverse, so much 485 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: more of a wider palette. 486 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: So we're all over the place. 487 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 3: But I'm like, this is what I wanted my community 488 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: to experience, and I believe it's part of my life 489 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: spiritual responsibility to be a steward, to be a vice regent, 490 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: to be a a whatever of this little space that 491 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: I got in the hood and myths in this corner 492 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 3: and whatever opportunity to connect with our coffee cousins and 493 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 3: our elders Ethiopia, Uganda, even folksing a diaspora for Latinos 494 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: whoever that we're in community with, to try to establish 495 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 3: this experience and perspective, you know what I'm saying. And 496 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: like that experience and perspective was a big reason why 497 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: I wanted to reach out to you for the Barist 498 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: Exchange program because we needed a board, a very informal board, 499 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: but I was like, man, the perspective on terror forming 500 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 3: in this idea even going back actually like the Andy 501 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: kroutchbook Whatever the Culture Care that I read and Wheaten 502 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 3: and like, you know, all these things of like I was, 503 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: I feel like you are, you know, to toot your horn, 504 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 3: no diddy, you know what I'm saying. It's like the 505 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: one of the foremost experts of like this philosophy on 506 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 3: what it's terraforming. Yeah, for futurism, culture care, whatever the word. 507 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: We're gonna use a hint gapification, you know what I'm saying. 508 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 3: It's this idea of like, Okay, what did the creator intend? Okay, 509 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: obviously this is what we are experiencing this outline with that, 510 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 3: and how do we use our talents, our gifts, our imagination, 511 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 3: our will, our skill to present a picture of that 512 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: back to our world and have the opportunity to move 513 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 3: in that direction. 514 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and like, yeah, bro, so. 515 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 3: That's why I wanted you on the board and like 516 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 3: being able to pursue that to some capacity because a 517 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: lot of that, you know, to use the word discipleship 518 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: was a part of my discipleship, you know what I'm saying, 519 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: was like these ideas and thoughts read like listening to 520 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: croocket chord or like being able to like just these 521 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 3: things of like, man, can we don't have to our 522 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 3: imagination and the vocabulary of our imagination does not have 523 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: to be determined by the words that currently exist. Yes, 524 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 3: we can make up new ones. Yes, you know what 525 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 3: I'm saying. Yeah, so that's what we want to do 526 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 3: with Coffee in the Hood. And like that's one of 527 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: the things I think that is the most exciting about 528 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: and honestly relieving about the anti gentrification Coffee club right 529 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 3: now is like it's to let's be honest, right, it's 530 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 3: a goofy idea, Like it sounds like a comic book. 531 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: You know, it sounds like a group of teenagers with 532 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: like in a steampunk that that read a red soul 533 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: on ice. Yeah, like the atrification. 534 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, they fly around with steampunk backpacks and bruper like 535 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 3: trap houses. 536 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 2: But it's like, that's kind of what we're doing. 537 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 3: Actually, it's like in this space like creating, because what 538 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: I realized is the most fascinating about living like we do. 539 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: We moved into our neighborhood with the John Perkins model 540 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: right of like this like community development based in the Bible. 541 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: So let me let me back up, like everybody on here, 542 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: like matter of fact, barely in Christians, okay, but the 543 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: John Perkins was a civil rights activist, like one of 544 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: the last living ones and one of the issues which 545 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: most people have. Like first of all, y'all got to 546 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: remember like our I say it's all the time on 547 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: the show, Like our like black church experience is very 548 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: different than white evangelicalism. 549 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 3: We have. 550 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: We have our own issues, our own baggage. But the 551 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: shit y'all did is not that was not our experience. 552 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: It's very different. So when y'all be like, I'm not religious, 553 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: I don't do nothing to do with the church. It's 554 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: like you're still picturing white church. 555 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 2: Yo. 556 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, that's not our experience. That being said, 557 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: like I said, black church. Don't get me wrong, black 558 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: church got problems, y'oll saying. But John Perkins addressed this 559 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: thing that was he started these things they were called 560 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 1: like parachurch organizations, which was this idea that like, all right, 561 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: since there's so much turmoil, trauma, and sort of in 562 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: some ways one could argue like conflicts of interest in 563 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: the sense of like, what is your role in this community? 564 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: Are you supposed to just am I here for your 565 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: spiritual care, your physical care, your financial care, you know? 566 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: And the answer, according to their believes is really all 567 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: of it, you know what I'm saying. But you can't 568 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: do it all right. So what John Perkins had this 569 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: idea of saying, well, what we could do is rather 570 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: than kind of using the term colonial, rather than having 571 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: a colonial model where it's like you have this big 572 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: financial institution and you're going out into these like inner 573 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: city areas, there's all these poor areas. We're gonna feed 574 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: the poor. We're gonna do this outreach, you know what 575 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know, since kids Guatemala, that's still a 576 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: still very colonial approach, and you're trying to bring them in. 577 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: What he was trying to say is like, well, nigga, 578 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: we live here. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, So like, yeah, well, 579 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: since we live here and I know the elders of 580 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: the city, like I know, pookin them. 581 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: I know. 582 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of times you may think, you know, 583 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: you want to really like like this is a true example. 584 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: It's like, all right, you want your church want to 585 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: come and give out backpacks to the kids to start school, 586 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: but the park that you're doing at, you got to 587 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: talk to the pyrus and like, but you got to 588 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: know which piru to talk to. Just because they wearing 589 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: a red rag don't mean they from the same set. 590 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: If you don't notice this because you're not from here, 591 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: right and you're you're not fluent in our language, that's 592 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: because you don't live here, right. And even and even 593 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: talking to the power, you still may have to talk 594 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: to Miss Jenkins because the Pyroue still got to check 595 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: in with Miss Jenkins, because that's grandma who took care 596 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: of all of us, who was our babysitter. So there's 597 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: these things that happens when you just live here that 598 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: if you're trying to, for example, accomplish you know, the 599 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: great commission of Like again, we're still talking about church organizations, 600 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: the great commission of making disciples, making a place better 601 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: than what it is. Like again, in the Black tradition, 602 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: we come from some some of y'all might call liberation theology, 603 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: but like we come from a position where you're the 604 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: the liliberate. The liberty Christ gives is for your whole person. 605 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 1: It's your your the laws, your stomachs, your families, your bills, 606 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: your bills, and your souls. So like it's not just 607 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: about downloading information and making you vote against like gender 608 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: neutral bathrooms, Like it's that's white shit, you know what 609 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So so the John Perkins model that he's 610 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: talking about is you can't just you can't just be 611 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: like I do inter city ministry and you don't live 612 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: here like. 613 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: You I'm saying, and you know, just thinking about it's 614 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: crazy because it's been a missonce I read, you know, 615 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 3: the book that he wrote, but he's watten a lot 616 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: of books. But like even those three different identities of 617 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 3: the ways you can interact with this right you can 618 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 3: be a person who partners, you can be a person 619 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 3: who sponsors, or you can be a person who actually 620 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: does the work. 621 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he kind of identifies the voice to participate for us. 622 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 3: I grew up in the Haven, which is like in 623 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 3: it's like an ex verb which we need to define 624 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 3: experb expert. Yeah, okay, so expert sociologically was like a 625 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 3: former suburb that has since experienced white like even though 626 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 3: suburbs are where the white you know, like you know 627 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, fun enough confidence, Yeah that's kind of crazy. Yes, 628 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 3: So like white Haven was an expert of South Memphis. 629 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 3: South Memphis like the south part of any black city, 630 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: like side every south side of everywhere. And so like 631 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 3: I grew up in the Haven. If you listen to 632 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 3: Memphis Rapp deuces from the Haven, like you know, and 633 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 3: so like we were growing as ninety eight percent black, 634 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 3: my church felt like, man, we need to go reach 635 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 3: the nations, ironically, so they moved to the most diverse 636 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 3: zip code of Memphis, which is just sixty percent black. Yeah, 637 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 3: super black, but also Muslim and also poor white and 638 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 3: also you know what I'm saying, Vietnamese and also increasingly 639 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 3: very Latin, know, anyway, we moved there. 640 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, I feel like I feel called to incarnational man. 641 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: So we buy a house in the neighborhood, you know 642 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Which actually I went to high school 643 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 3: over there, so it's not like I don't know this neighborhood, 644 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 3: not from there. 645 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we buy a house. We're still in Memphis. 646 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: I'm living there. I've been there ten, ten years whatever. 647 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 3: And like the reality of like living in the community 648 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 3: is like there there are rules, but there aren't rules. 649 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: Like nobody says I can't sit outside on a corner 650 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 3: and like make beats with my son and drink a lot. 651 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,959 Speaker 2: There's no rule that says I can't do that. Yea. 652 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 3: And what's fascinating about like this idea of like terriforming 653 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 3: or after futurism or like you know, decolonizing all this 654 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 3: stuff is like a lot of the things that we 655 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 3: see and don't see are not based on what we 656 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 3: can and can't do. 657 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 2: It's just based on the fact we haven't seen it before. 658 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 3: But like the desire as a like very publicly identifying 659 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 3: like nerdy kid growing up in the hood, was that 660 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 3: you have to keep that nerdy stuff in the house, 661 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, But why though, like why 662 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 3: but there was actually like other than the option of beating. 663 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: But ain't nobody touching me now, you know what I'm saying, Like, 664 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 3: you're not going to beat me up. Now I'm an 665 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: adults and I'm much significantly larger. But it's like, yo, 666 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 3: So the crazy thing about doing an anti gentrification coffee 667 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 3: club is that we can you know what I'm saying, 668 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 3: And like the only reason why it didn't exist before 669 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 3: is because maybe somebody hadn't listened to the Diitrified song 670 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 3: long enough in. 671 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: Mainhood and been like, well, what if we do the 672 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 2: cof shoping? 673 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, we can just do 674 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 3: this joint and I can take the little homies that 675 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 3: I'm mentoring who are currently like I don't got no 676 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: work or the only work I have is not the 677 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 3: legal CND and be like, all right, come be a Barisa, 678 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 3: come back up, legal beans, legal let's teach you something. Yeah, 679 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 3: come on, do that and you haven't done it before, 680 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: but that's fine. I'm competent. I got a master's degree 681 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 3: in urban education. I know I can teach you apostrophes 682 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 3: and sentence diagramming. I can definitely teach poor overs, you 683 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 684 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: And then the fun part about that is, like you know, 685 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: you get these kids, like you said, like all they 686 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: knew is illegal work. Once once they catch the vision, 687 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: then their imagination starts opening and now they're tapping into 688 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: their gifts. 689 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 2: They're like, yes, bro, why won't we do this? 690 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. 691 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: Now, the craziest story, right, yeah, let's end with this story. 692 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 3: Craziest story. Blackberries to Exchange Program Phase two is happening. 693 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 3: We're hosting five for bury from the African constant and 694 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 3: diaspora who are here in Memphis, and we're partnering with 695 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 3: Vanderbilt to do this. Right, We're about to go see 696 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 3: Lyn Butler, probably the greatest black buristo. Yeah, only black 697 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 3: person to win the US BARISA Championship. Mostly I don't 698 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 3: even know that there is, yeah BARISA Championship, much less 699 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 3: a country or world or a regional one. He's also 700 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 3: the only black person to get top five in the 701 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 3: world for the World BRITISA Championship. 702 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: First person to do all these things. 703 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 3: We're about to go spend a week with him, but 704 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: first we have to go to Vanderbilt to host like 705 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 3: a decolonizing Coffee symposium with Ted Fisher who and Gabby 706 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 3: who's a professor of anthropology. I see both of these 707 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 3: are an anthropology. But anyway, we're working with these professors 708 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 3: doing amazing work. Ted wrote this book called Making Coffee 709 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: Better and it's about reclaiming Indigenous Perspectives from Guatemala and 710 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 3: like working with the Maya people to reclaim an indigenous 711 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 3: perspective on land in general and how that could integrate 712 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 3: in coffee. Which is how we connected because he was like, wait, 713 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 3: there actually is one specific four coffee from Africa. 714 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like there's multiple. I just him 715 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 2: learning about when. 716 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're doing this work anyway, we're bringing all 717 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 3: these people up in the van where in our first 718 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 3: barista from the neighborhood, O Marion, who to be clear, 719 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 3: did not move illegal work, you. 720 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. He was like, he's like a 721 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: little kid. 722 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 3: It was like just we had we were doing hot dogs, 723 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 3: doing the vacation Bible, cool stuff, and he used to 724 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 3: pull up and kick it with us. 725 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 2: But he was our first barista. 726 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 3: Now he's twenty, right, so he started when he was 727 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 3: teen nice twenty right, and so he's seen the brand grow, 728 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 3: he's seen us go all over Africa, he's seen us 729 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 3: do the documentary be the most notable rosters in the world, 730 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 3: which it just happened in February, and. 731 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 2: Now he's on the way with us. 732 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 3: But his experience with coffee is from this afro futuristic 733 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 3: terraforming what if coffee was always black? So that's actually 734 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 3: his experience, especially coffee, that it's always black. So we 735 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 3: go and speak at Professor Ted Fisher's class and it's us. 736 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 3: It's like ten of us, real deep in front of 737 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 3: all his students, most of whom are not black. And 738 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 3: we're in the car debriefing about the experience, and he 739 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 3: was it's like, Bro, the craziest thing, I'm realizing, like 740 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 3: it's so cool, don't feel real to see all these 741 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 3: people from Africa here with us, and I seen y'all go, 742 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 3: but out there here with me in the car and 743 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 3: I'm getting to chop it up and check them and 744 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 3: make fun of them and make coffee with. 745 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 2: Them and like just be brothers and sisters. 746 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 3: But it's like the craziest part was going to this 747 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,959 Speaker 3: class and seeing all these kids talk about coffees like bart, 748 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 3: I didn't know this many white people drink coffee. 749 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, crazy. 750 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 3: And I think that with this current election reality and 751 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 3: like everything that's going on to me, that the possibility 752 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 3: of creating a world where the next generation doesn't even 753 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 3: understand it when we try to explain how screwed up 754 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 3: the world is right now is possible, even if only 755 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 3: with a small thing like coffee. Right if we do 756 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 3: the work to reimagine and terror form, even just our 757 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 3: small corner of the space we've been given to steward, 758 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 3: there is a possibility there's a possible multiverse where like 759 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 3: the next generation looks at us crazy when we try 760 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 3: to explain the problems. 761 00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: Where it's it's amout. 762 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 763 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: I have nothing to add to that. Ladies and gentlemen, 764 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 1: please drop the website. 765 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, Coffee Black with an X no oh, like 766 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 3: Malcolm so Ce x f fee Black just gave my 767 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 3: first Ted Talk. Go run it up, because you know 768 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It's like a competition between people who 769 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 3: give ted Talk. So my streams is not great right now. 770 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 3: But I did do it Ted Talk. You did it though, Yeah, 771 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 3: and I just dropped this, so y'all go check it out. 772 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 3: And we're currently in the midst of like a community 773 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 3: crowdfunding campaign on we funder. So if you love what 774 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 3: we're doing, you can be an equity partner, do revenue 775 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 3: share project with us and uh, you know, be a 776 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 3: part of what we're doing. First little as one hundred bucks, 777 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 3: so you know we thunder dot com backslash coffee black 778 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 3: check it out, No sugar, no cream, need it. 779 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I have nothing. 780 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: That's he nailed it. That's a possible future where through coffee. 781 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: That that's what I mean by Terraformer. Yeah, all right, politics, 782 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: All right, now, don't you hit stop on this pod. 783 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: You better listen to these credits. I need you to 784 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: finish this thing so I can get the download numbers. Okay, 785 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: so don't stop it yet, but listen. This was recorded 786 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: in East Lost boil Heights by your boy Propaganda. Tap 787 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: in with me at prop hip hop dot com. If 788 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: you're in the coldbrew coffee, we got Terraform Coldbrew. You 789 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: can go there dot com and use promo code hood 790 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: get twenty percent off get yourself some coffee. This was 791 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: mixed edited and mastered by your boy Matt Alsowski Killing 792 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: the Beast Softly. Check out his website Matdowsowski dot com. 793 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm a spell it for you because I know M 794 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 1: A T T O S O W s ki dot 795 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: com Matthowsowski dot com. He got more music and stuff 796 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: like that on there, so gonna check out. The heat. 797 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: Politics is a member of cool Zone Media, executive produced 798 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: by Sophie Lichterman, part of the iHeartMedia podcast network. Your 799 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: theme music and scoring is also by the one and 800 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: nobly Mattowsowski. Still killing the beats softly, So listen. Don't 801 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: let nobody lie to you. If you understand urban living, 802 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: you understand politics. These people is not smarter than you. 803 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: We'll see y'all next week.