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Speaker 7: I'm feeling great, man, I had such a great night's
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Speaker 7: We got a lot of injuries to go through. This
Speaker 7: might take an entire secment. We'll see how it goes.
Speaker 7: But later in the show we're going to get into
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Speaker 7: start with the injury report. Let's start with some of
Speaker 7: the guys that are returning from injury, Deron Bland, Chum Doga,
Speaker 7: Brandon Cooks, Marshawn Neeland. What are we hearing about them
Speaker 7: and the possibilities of them playing this weekend? Knowing Deron
Speaker 7: Blam was full participant, Yes.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it sounds like Deron Blands in line to make
Speaker 9: his season debut on Sunday, which will obviously be big
Speaker 9: for Mike Zimmer's defense, it would be the first time
Speaker 9: he gets to utilize them in a game. As far
Speaker 9: as Brandon Cooks and Marshaw Neeland go, as long as
Speaker 9: they stay on track of where they are right now,
Speaker 9: the expectation is that they could be lifted off of
Speaker 9: the IR now. As far as corresponding roster moves, that's
Speaker 9: where I think it might get a little bit tricky
Speaker 9: with maybe a guy like Chew Maidoga because you look
Speaker 9: at Marquis Bell, He's expected to go on the IR
Speaker 9: with his shoulder dislocation that's most likely going to require surgery.
Speaker 8: So you do have one spot you can.
Speaker 9: Use with Brandon Cooks, Marshaw Neeland, Chew Malidoga, then you
Speaker 9: got to kind of figure out one or two more so,
Speaker 9: but as as long as they can figure out roster correspondence,
Speaker 9: then I think Brandon Cook's, Marshaw Neeland, Chumleydoga would be
Speaker 9: ready for Sunday Yeap.
Speaker 7: Which those guys you think has the biggest outside of Deron,
Speaker 7: which we know would have an immediate impact. Of those
Speaker 7: other guys, who do you think could have an immedia impact,
Speaker 7: particularly thinking about Brandon Cooks and Marshawn Neelan.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think a case could be made for both,
Speaker 9: but if you're looking for maybe the bigger impact, I
Speaker 9: still look at a veteran like Brandon Cooks, especially with
Speaker 9: this offense how it's been playing or not playing. Rather,
Speaker 9: I think he just kind of adds a layer that
Speaker 9: this offense desperately needs right now.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I think it's Cooks, I mean, and I'm so
Speaker 6: happy for Kneeling coming back because I kind of felt
Speaker 6: like that he was one or two sacks away from
Speaker 6: really kind of figuring this thing out. Then all of
Speaker 6: a sudden it was going to be six and a
Speaker 6: half sacks. You know that his play was. He went
Speaker 6: from a guy that I really didn't think it was
Speaker 6: a great pass rusher coming out of college, and then
Speaker 6: you watch him at practice and training camp and he
Speaker 6: started working against you know, the Rams, the preseason games,
Speaker 6: all those things, and you were kind of encouraged that
Speaker 6: he was kind of figuring some things out. And then
Speaker 6: he gets hurt and unfortunately, so I'm excited about him,
Speaker 6: but they need somebody. They need an offensive weapon, and
Speaker 6: you know Cook's route running ability, but to get open,
Speaker 6: secure the ball, make plays, they desperately need a guy
Speaker 6: like that. He surely can.
Speaker 7: Help talk to me about Jordan Lewis, he missed last
Speaker 7: week's game with a neck injury. Yesterday we good here,
Speaker 7: should all right?
Speaker 6: Good?
Speaker 7: And then obviously two veterans I think they are are okay,
Speaker 7: but Eric Kendricks, Ceedee Lamb both limited as well, those
Speaker 7: just vet days. Are we concerned at all about those guys?
Speaker 8: No concerns of no.
Speaker 4: Good all right?
Speaker 7: A couple guys didn't practice at all, Hunter Lipke, Zach Martin,
Speaker 7: Tyler Smith, Jake Ferguson. I think that the talk has
Speaker 7: been that Jake probably is not playing this week.
Speaker 6: That's true.
Speaker 7: What about those other three?
Speaker 9: Yeah, looking at Zach Martin, going to continue to go
Speaker 9: through the week. Mike McCarthy spoke on it yesterday and
Speaker 9: there were some things today. Today's a big day for
Speaker 9: Zach Martin. So once we come out of today, we'll
Speaker 9: probably be more news tomorrow as far as his availability.
Speaker 9: But I think this is a little bit more serious
Speaker 9: than the usual nick and bang that Zach Martin has
Speaker 9: gotten used to over the course of the last week.
Speaker 9: Nick and Bang, Nick and Bang never heard that, but
Speaker 9: I like, yeah, Nick and Nach or a bang and
Speaker 9: bang I don't know, but Zach Martin's been battling a
Speaker 9: lot with his body last time years, but I think
Speaker 9: this one's a little bit more serious than you know,
Speaker 9: the random ankle or shoulder or whatever that he typically
Speaker 9: plays through. This one, you know, he not only had
Speaker 9: the ankle injury, but he kind of got punched in
Speaker 9: the throat in the game too. That was kind of
Speaker 9: the moment where he was on a knee, kind of
Speaker 9: was shaking his head. And so I think a couple
Speaker 9: of those things might be a little bit difficult to
Speaker 9: play through on a short week.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he's the one. The one that they're worried
Speaker 6: about is him Smith. They feel like can be ready
Speaker 6: to go. But but the Martin one when you ask
Speaker 6: over there about you know, well, hey tell me about
Speaker 6: Martin and like what do you what do you want
Speaker 6: to know and where do you want to start kind
Speaker 6: of thing. He's he's been battling through a lot, he
Speaker 6: really really has. And I thought you made some points
Speaker 6: about it yesterday talking about how he's you know, we
Speaker 6: we kind of talk about the level of how he's played,
Speaker 6: but it's just man, it's just tough with all the
Speaker 6: injuries that he's had to deal with.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I remember a graphic this is many years ago
Speaker 7: we put together on DeMarcus.
Speaker 6: Where before all the things that were last.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the last year he was here, and it was
Speaker 7: like he had like these little target signal symbols that
Speaker 7: we put on all the different parts of his body
Speaker 7: that were hurt. And I want to say it was
Speaker 7: like seven or eight different areas where it's just like
Speaker 7: injury injury, injury injury, and it's like these veterans man,
Speaker 7: they get to point their bodies are just so beat
Speaker 7: up and they really do just need kind of a break.
Speaker 7: They just need to be able to stop. And if
Speaker 7: they stop for a little bit, some of the stuff
Speaker 7: could actually heal. But when you're going through a season,
Speaker 7: there is no stop, There is no pause button you
Speaker 7: can just you got to keep going through, at least
Speaker 7: how they look at it. Got to keep going through.
Speaker 7: And that's what he's doing. He's battling through. And you
Speaker 7: respect him even more for that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I a lot of respect for Zach Martin on
Speaker 9: how he's handling.
Speaker 8: This year because I'm sure it's tough.
Speaker 9: He talked about and Ota is about how this could
Speaker 9: be his last campaign and how his body's kind of
Speaker 9: not responding to certain things, and you know how it
Speaker 9: has his first ten years, and for the season to
Speaker 9: be going the way it is and him still fighting
Speaker 9: every week and trying to get back on the field
Speaker 9: even in anticipation of three games in ten days, that's
Speaker 9: not easy on anybody, much less his A lot of
Speaker 9: credit to Zach Martin for sticking it through.
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's one of those guys. I mean, he's not
Speaker 10: gonna hurt hurt his finger and be like, oh, I'm sorry, guys,
Speaker 10: I got something. He's a guy that's he's gonna try
Speaker 10: to be out there no matter what, like, and he's
Speaker 10: shown that all.
Speaker 8: Through this season.
Speaker 10: So it's one of those things that sometimes maybe you
Speaker 10: need somebody else to be the one to pull you
Speaker 10: out and sit you down.
Speaker 8: Just for your own good.
Speaker 10: But curious to see what kind of happens with him
Speaker 10: for the rest of the season, because if he gets
Speaker 10: to a point where they're no longer mathematically.
Speaker 7: Mathematically yes, yeah, got.
Speaker 10: There in their run to the Super Bowl, then there's
Speaker 10: no point really.
Speaker 7: Well that's also the interesting part because if this is
Speaker 7: his last campaign, I don't know that he wants to
Speaker 7: finish it on ir right, So that's where you you
Speaker 7: probably have to you want it, You probably should deframe
Speaker 7: playing for players. They're playing for seventeen games. They're playing
Speaker 7: because when has been Parcels used to say during football season,
Speaker 7: football players playing football.
Speaker 10: But that's he's not like any other player, like you
Speaker 10: know where his career is gonna lead to after he
Speaker 10: leaves and all that. So it depends where you're at physically,
Speaker 10: because if your body is hurting, like, what's the point
Speaker 10: of you putting yourself through that? You don't you have
Speaker 10: nothing else to prove.
Speaker 7: Other than it is it maybe the last time he
Speaker 7: puts on pads for the rest of his life, And
Speaker 7: that is something when you're giving that up and you've
Speaker 7: done it all your life, that's something that I think
Speaker 7: can motivate you to say, I don't care that we're
Speaker 7: not playing for championship this year. It is my last.
Speaker 7: These are the last few times I had to suit
Speaker 7: up with the guys I call my brothers in this battle,
Speaker 7: and I won a battle.
Speaker 6: He signed up for seventeen weeks. Yeah, that's that's really
Speaker 6: how it. We're And you make a really good point, though,
Speaker 6: you really do.
Speaker 7: That's the logical point it is, it's very like.
Speaker 6: Why why do we keep why do you do you?
Speaker 6: But for him, you know, I just remember players like
Speaker 6: we had a guy Eddie George, Derek remember Eddie George.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you ever remember Eddie George running back. Okay,
Speaker 6: Eddie George.
Speaker 8: He wasn't aund for that, yes, weren't.
Speaker 6: Around, but Eddie George. We had Eddie George here and
Speaker 6: it was the end of his career and he had
Speaker 6: a streak of a consecutive streak of starting for running back.
Speaker 6: It was a really impressive streak and we got the
Speaker 6: bright idea to inactivate him one weekend, yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: and it ended his streak for what you know, and
Speaker 6: that ruined him. That just ruined him because he was playing.
Speaker 6: He was so he was so such pride about playing
Speaker 6: every week in that streak, and one weekend we decided,
Speaker 6: now we're going to activate somebody else because the head
Speaker 6: coach wanted to, you know, to prove a point, and
Speaker 6: it was not there was no reason to just let
Speaker 6: the guy keep playing, you know. And that's that's what
Speaker 6: these players do. They sign up, especially the really good ones. Yeah,
Speaker 6: the really good ones know that like Derek says that, hey,
Speaker 6: there's gonna be a time where I'm thirty three years
Speaker 6: old and I'm not going to put a uniform on anymore.
Speaker 6: That's still a young guy. Yeah, you know reasonably, that's
Speaker 6: a young guy. So you want you want to have
Speaker 6: that memory. You want to You don't want to go
Speaker 6: out like Eddie George did, where all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: you know, people you know are looking at you and
Speaker 6: you're like, oh, I can't do it anymore, But but
Speaker 6: you keep playing, you keep playing, And I think that's
Speaker 6: where I think that's.
Speaker 10: Where Zac only he really knows his decision.
Speaker 8: He can or can it.
Speaker 6: We should have left it up to Eddie George to
Speaker 6: keep playing, which he did. He wanted to play. We
Speaker 6: took that away from him that one day and it
Speaker 6: wrecked his streak. You know where he could have gone
Speaker 6: out as you know, not Eddie George to finished with
Speaker 6: the Dallas Cowboys. That wasn't any good at the end.
Speaker 6: It was man Eddie George, the warrior who played up
Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty something straight games at running back.
Speaker 6: You know, That's how he should have been remembered, not
Speaker 6: by a guy that had ended his career with the
Speaker 6: Cowboys and ended the streak with the Cowboys.
Speaker 9: Not only did Zach Martin sign up for seventeen games,
Speaker 9: he signed up to be a leader for this team.
Speaker 9: I would be shocked if he does not care about
Speaker 9: the future of this team, especially as it pertains to
Speaker 9: the offensive line.
Speaker 8: Young guys like Tyler Smith.
Speaker 9: Tyler Guidon spoke to Guidon in a locker room yesterday
Speaker 9: about how Zach Martin has been helping him through this season.
Speaker 9: So there's still a lot of value in Zach Martin
Speaker 9: being on the field, even if it might not get
Speaker 9: seen this year. He could see value and what he
Speaker 9: puts into the field this year in these seven remaining games,
Speaker 9: being remnant effects down the line whenever this team can win.
Speaker 7: So I think the older I get to, the more
Speaker 7: I realize because I go through it now, I'm starting
Speaker 7: to go through it in my life. You start realizing
Speaker 7: there are things that you have to give up because
Speaker 7: your body just can't do them anymore. And I think
Speaker 7: that's a hard thing to do. And I'm not a
Speaker 7: professional athlete, obviously, I never I haven't done this all
Speaker 7: my life. But there are things as you get older
Speaker 7: you start realizing, Man, I just can't do this anymore,
Speaker 7: and you really want to do it everything in you
Speaker 7: want to do it. It's just something you have a
Speaker 7: passion for, you love, and you start realizing there is
Speaker 7: an end date on it all, Like there's an expiration
Speaker 7: date when it comes to the things that you want
Speaker 7: to be able to do, and you're going to have
Speaker 7: to walk away from some of those things at some point.
Speaker 7: That's why it really touches me for somebody like Zach
Speaker 7: and seeing him go through this right now, go through
Speaker 7: this season, go through these injuries and get to the end,
Speaker 7: and I'm like, the right thing to do as an
Speaker 7: organization for a guy who has given you so much
Speaker 7: throughout his career is to let him be able to say,
Speaker 7: if I can figure out a way to gut it
Speaker 7: out and get out there, let him get gutted out
Speaker 7: and get out there.
Speaker 6: Yea, even though that it might be hurting the team.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And quite frankly, I would actually look at it
Speaker 7: a little differently if they were playing for something. Back
Speaker 7: to your point, amber if they were literally right now
Speaker 7: in a situation where they're battling for the division, I
Speaker 7: might be like, hey, you know, Zach, Hey are you
Speaker 7: looking at the best of the team or what's best
Speaker 7: for you. Maybe you have to go with what's best
Speaker 7: for the team. But the fact that that isn't the case,
Speaker 7: I think now I would even be more so like, hey, man,
Speaker 7: if this is what you want to do, if you
Speaker 7: feel like you can figure it out and you can
Speaker 7: get out there, hey I'm going to be behind you.
Speaker 8: And oh yeah.
Speaker 10: And I mean not to keep this conversation going so long.
Speaker 10: But the way I see it, again, like I said,
Speaker 10: personal decision for him. Let him make that decision. But
Speaker 10: it's one of those things that if you're out of
Speaker 10: the run, if it gets to that point and then
Speaker 10: you're already getting beat because of the injuries that you're
Speaker 10: dealing with, you know, that could potentially lead to something worse.
Speaker 10: You've gotten through your career to this point of your
Speaker 10: career where you haven't had anything major, major, like really
Speaker 10: affect you in that way, and now you're out there
Speaker 10: and who knows what kind of injury that you getting
Speaker 10: beat can lead to to where now that can potentially
Speaker 10: affect the rest of your life. You know, because he's
Speaker 10: a dad, he has young kids and all that. So
Speaker 10: I'm saying, like I don't know again, live it up
Speaker 10: to him. We'll see. But either way, whatever the decision is,
Speaker 10: whether he plays or don't play, I'll support and that
Speaker 10: it goes back and wishing the best regardless.
Speaker 7: No doubt doub All right, we're gonna take our first break.
Speaker 4: We'll come back.
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Speaker 7: challenges there and some of the opportunities because they're both
Speaker 7: when you look at this defense we'll be doing when
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Speaker 7: brought to you by blockchain dot Com. All right, Washington Defense.
Speaker 7: Right now, they are fifth in passing defense, only giving
Speaker 7: up one hundred and eighty four yards per game.
Speaker 4: Through the year.
Speaker 7: They are also eighth right now in sacks with twenty nine.
Speaker 7: Who are the best pass rushers in how they match
Speaker 7: up against this offensive line.
Speaker 9: It's funny you look at Dante Fowlers at Darren's armsto.
Speaker 9: You know, right, Dante Fowers had a hell of a year.
Speaker 6: Franky Louv too.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, People forget Fowler was a first round pick. This
Speaker 7: has been a player since he's a player.
Speaker 9: I think it's more so just like in comparison to
Speaker 9: what he was in Dallas, which he was good in Dallas,
Speaker 9: but it was very situational. He didn't get many snaps
Speaker 9: and I mean I think back to the force fumble
Speaker 9: that led to Leyton Van de Rush's final touchdown in
Speaker 9: his final full game. I think it was his only
Speaker 9: touchdown in his final full game. He had his moments
Speaker 9: in Dallas, but it looked like that they were trying
Speaker 9: to maximize his athleticism by keeping him fresh throughout the
Speaker 9: entirety of games, whereas Washington throws him on the field
Speaker 9: and is like, Okay, go be as athletic as you
Speaker 9: can on as many snaps as you can. And now
Speaker 9: he's on.
Speaker 8: A Pro Bowl pace.
Speaker 6: So this is eight and a half.
Speaker 8: Yeah, give me, give me one moment a lot, But.
Speaker 6: I think, yeah, I think he had eight and a half.
Speaker 6: I think Frankie Lulu has seven. I think it's what
Speaker 6: they got.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he gets after the quarterback, but it's it's the
Speaker 9: athleticism that's that's really maximized. And I think that's probably
Speaker 9: the concern that you look at whenever you look eight
Speaker 9: and a half, Yes, whenever you look at how these
Speaker 9: tackles could defend him.
Speaker 7: Is he better at this point? He's playing better as
Speaker 7: a pass rusher than.
Speaker 8: Armstrong in my opinion, yes, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 9: I think Armstrong is your guy that can get in
Speaker 9: the backfield in the run game and is still definitely
Speaker 9: a contributor there. I like this front. This front is
Speaker 9: still learning, it's still young. Outside of Armstrong and Fulor,
Speaker 9: it's still young. But I do like this front. I
Speaker 9: think think there's some there's some gaps in the middle
Speaker 9: that I think you could exploit. But overall, I think
Speaker 9: I think they've done.
Speaker 8: A good job.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Nick's gut, I'm absolutely right. I mean they they
Speaker 6: They did have a big loss and Jonathan Allen went
Speaker 6: out and he got hurt in the UH the Baltimore game.
Speaker 6: He tore peck muscles, so he's done. But Newton there,
Speaker 6: the rookie from UH from Illinois, is a nice player
Speaker 6: for me that you know. Deron Payin, we've talked about him.
Speaker 6: He's been a pain and you know what, UH for
Speaker 6: the Cowboys for some time. You know that for a
Speaker 6: while there, they got rid of all their pass rushers
Speaker 6: last year. Remember they shipped all those guys off. And
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, Dan Quinn comes in. He's like, Okay,
Speaker 6: I think it's interesting to me. And I think Nick
Speaker 6: makes a really good point about this. The fact that
Speaker 6: they're playing Fowler like full time. If he was here
Speaker 6: in Dallas, and with the injuries that Dallas has on
Speaker 6: the edge, that might be your best pass rusher. Wait, well,
Speaker 6: of course, Michael Parsons, But did you know Fowler playing
Speaker 6: more snaps for them, and he doesn't look like he
Speaker 6: gets beat down, war down and all that. I mean,
Speaker 6: they're actually rushing him off the right side and he'll
Speaker 6: flip sides. But they make Armstrong and Armstrong has always
Speaker 6: kind of been a right side player, you know, So
Speaker 6: they've put Armstrong on the left side and let Fowler
Speaker 6: rush from the right side there. And he's explosive, he's quick.
Speaker 6: They run games. But they I mentioned Frankie Louvo and
Speaker 6: he came from the Carolina Panthers. Dallas played him last year.
Speaker 6: He's one of the better players we talked about at Carolina.
Speaker 6: So he signs as an unrestricted free agent. Quinn's using
Speaker 6: him or Joe Witt. They're using him like they use
Speaker 6: Michael Parsons. You know, he's like he's a linebacker. Off ball,
Speaker 6: he stands up. They put him in the middle, he
Speaker 6: rushes a gap. Sometimes he'll go on the outside. It's
Speaker 6: not a hand down guy, but they kind of move
Speaker 6: him around, and when you start talking about him and
Speaker 6: Bobby Wagner, they got two linebackers that create pressure. You know,
Speaker 6: they bring and they've been blitzing a lot more there.
Speaker 6: Their numbers they weren't the first five weeks of the season.
Speaker 6: They their pressure numbers were not great, and then all
Speaker 6: of a sudden, Joe Witt started blitzing more and they
Speaker 6: went from near the bottom of the league to the
Speaker 6: top of the league when it came to pressures off
Speaker 6: blitz and so. And a lot of it has to
Speaker 6: do with the ability to get to like say Payne Newton.
Speaker 6: Those guys pushed the middle, Fowler Armstrong off the edge,
Speaker 6: Frankie Luvu he'll rush sometimes and be effective. And then
Speaker 6: Bobby Wagner rush sometimes. You know, if you look at
Speaker 6: if you look at this secondary you're talking about pass defense.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what there's I see why they made
Speaker 6: the Marshawn Lattimore trade, which hasn't they haven't played with
Speaker 6: him yet because they've got a rookie in Mike Standers
Speaker 6: still who's playing. But if you look at quarterback ratings
Speaker 6: against these guys, teams have had some success throwing the
Speaker 6: ball on these corners and then uh Bcnogany he's playing
Speaker 6: the nickel for him, and so yeah, no, okay, I
Speaker 6: mean that's that's my but that's what I'm saying. No,
Speaker 6: it's it's there's possible. The pass rush is good, which
Speaker 6: helps their past defense because they they they you know
Speaker 6: Dan plays. We all seen Dan play. It's twisting, it's Russian.
Speaker 6: It's putting two good rushers on one side and Russian
Speaker 6: it's blitzing a linebacker through. You know. But these corners,
Speaker 6: there's another thing I was watching. I went back and
Speaker 6: watched every touchdown they gave it up, gave up, had
Speaker 6: given up. They give a five touchdowns to tight ends
Speaker 6: in the red zone. You know. So you talk about
Speaker 6: safety play, Jeremy Chen and Kwan Martin and those guys,
Speaker 6: they they've they've struggled with teams that have Now here's
Speaker 6: your guy. Unfortunately he's you know, Ferguson is is banged up,
Speaker 6: and game it could be could be you know, the
Speaker 6: Michigan Wolverine Legacy game. But yeah, so to me, there's
Speaker 6: opportunities here. But this front makes it really and you
Speaker 6: said it, he liked the front. You're absolutely right about
Speaker 6: liking this front. But I do feel like that kind
Speaker 6: of with with Saint Jews and you know, and Sanders
Speaker 6: Still and those guys. They've given up some stuff. You
Speaker 6: know that there's been quarterbacks have had some pretty good
Speaker 6: ratings against them, but the pressure's been hard to deal with.
Speaker 9: I think if I was going up against this secondary,
Speaker 9: the guy that I would be maybe not trying to avoid,
Speaker 9: but the guy that I think I would rely on
Speaker 9: him being in his spot when he needs to more
Speaker 9: often than not.
Speaker 8: As Jeremy Chin.
Speaker 9: I do like what Jeremy Chen not only brings in coverage,
Speaker 9: but he'll step up in the run game and lay
Speaker 9: hat on you too. He does a really good job
Speaker 9: covering in the middle of the field from their strong
Speaker 9: safety position. I've liked this secondary at times, and then
Speaker 9: there's times where I'm like, this secondary is still reeling
Speaker 9: from being so.
Speaker 8: Bad last year. Yeah, I think, Yeah, they go.
Speaker 9: After a guy like Emmanuel Forbes Junior in the first
Speaker 9: round back in twenty twenty three, and he.
Speaker 8: Just hasn't paid out for them.
Speaker 9: I look at how they threw him on the field
Speaker 9: early last year, kind of to how Dallas has thrown
Speaker 9: Tyler Guidon onto the field early this year. In the
Speaker 9: sense of like maybe those guys weren't ready, and I
Speaker 9: think it kind of stunted Forbes growth. I'm not gonna
Speaker 9: speak on guidance just yet. I think he's still got
Speaker 9: a ways to go, but I think it's stunted Forbes
Speaker 9: growth in some instances, and he's just not physical enough
Speaker 9: at the end of the day. And now you see
Speaker 9: a guy like Saint just who comes in and has
Speaker 9: kind of overtaken him in the depth chart, and you
Speaker 9: look at some of these other young guys that they're
Speaker 9: trying to put around them, Tyler Owens, Mike Sanders still,
Speaker 9: and then that's why they go get Latimore. Like you said,
Speaker 9: Latimore did not practice yesterday.
Speaker 6: Hamstring, right, yeah, hamstring.
Speaker 9: So this is a game where Brandon Cooks can come back.
Speaker 9: He's gonna be used, yeah, because he's a guy that
Speaker 9: can not only get open across the middle of the
Speaker 9: field and maybe account for a guy like Jeremy chan
Speaker 9: As the veteran presence he is, but he could also
Speaker 9: get downfield.
Speaker 8: Now, can Cooper rush get the ball to him?
Speaker 9: This different question, but I think I think having Brandon
Speaker 9: Cooks in a game like this would certainly benefit this team.
Speaker 6: Can I ask him a draft question real quick? Sure,
Speaker 6: not for this draft.
Speaker 4: But there we go.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, but Forbes, Yeah, do we now have
Speaker 6: to think about slightly built corners that play in this league?
Speaker 4: Cool?
Speaker 6: After what you saw with Forbes.
Speaker 9: I mean Nate Wiggins is also from Baltimore. He was
Speaker 9: a first round pick out of Clemson or second second
Speaker 9: round pick first round, so somewhere in there out of Clemson.
Speaker 9: He's another guy I think that you look at he
Speaker 9: was one hundred and sixty five pounds the comount. But yes,
Speaker 9: this is a physical league, and I think with especially
Speaker 9: with the way defenses are playing up on receivers now
Speaker 9: and having success doing so, is throwing physicality on these
Speaker 9: receiving cours. And if you don't have a guy that
Speaker 9: can throw a hat around, then you better be step
Speaker 9: first step mirroring those routes every single time.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't say, And that's the tough thing to do.
Speaker 9: There's only about three corners I can think of that
Speaker 9: can actually do that.
Speaker 7: That's one of those interesting things. I was having this
Speaker 7: conversations weekend with someone about Travis Hunter and they were like,
Speaker 7: where do you play him? And I was like, you know,
Speaker 7: I don't know. And the one that they made was
Speaker 7: he's really slight, and how does that one hundred eighty yeah,
Speaker 7: how does that affect whether he should be a cornerback
Speaker 7: or whether he should be a receiver. And maybe, to
Speaker 7: your point, Brian, maybe that is what makes team's sake.
Speaker 7: Put him at receiver first, put him at corner receiver both.
Speaker 4: I'm doing both.
Speaker 9: I'm not playing him at both the entirety of a game. Yeah,
Speaker 9: but I'm gonna play him here when we need him
Speaker 9: and I'm gonna play him here when we need him there.
Speaker 8: Like you use both of those abilities. But that's a
Speaker 8: that's a.
Speaker 7: Draft, that's a whole different conversation.
Speaker 6: That's a Sorry, by the way, you've seen East Carolina here, Yo,
Speaker 6: let's talk about he's good. I mean, for Herod's name,
Speaker 6: good player. Okay.
Speaker 7: We talked about the challenge. The challenge obviously, there's defensive
Speaker 7: front and trying to stop their pass rush. Here's the opportunity.
Speaker 7: Right now, they are thirtieth in the league and rush
Speaker 7: defense they are averaging giving up five yards per rush attempt,
Speaker 7: thirty first in the NFL in that area. They've allowed
Speaker 7: one hundred yards plus rushing every game except for one
Speaker 7: this year. They've given up one hundred and fifty plus
Speaker 7: in five games this year, and there have been two
Speaker 7: times they've given up two hundred yards plus. Yeah, where
Speaker 7: are they most vulnerable in the run.
Speaker 9: For that, I say in the middle. I say in
Speaker 9: the middle. It's young in the middle with guys like
Speaker 9: Jerseon Newton. You do have Deron payin in the middle,
Speaker 9: but I think that's where you can find some success.
Speaker 9: This is personnel aside. You see some mirroring between last
Speaker 9: year's dan Quinn defense in Dallas and this year's defense
Speaker 9: dan Quinn defense in Washington. Now, again personnel aside, because
Speaker 9: there are some similar personnel guys. But I think overall
Speaker 9: dan Quinn's specialty is getting after the quarterback in pass
Speaker 9: rush and maximizing athleticism in pass rush. Well, when you're
Speaker 9: maximizing athleticism in pass rush, then you're not maximizing physicality
Speaker 9: and stopping the run. So I think you see the
Speaker 9: similarities there, and I think you attack it in the
Speaker 9: same sense. Now, does Dallas have the offensive personnel to
Speaker 9: over physical over physical those guys, then I don't necessarily
Speaker 9: believe so, especially if a guy like Zach Martin is
Speaker 9: not playing. I look at a guy like Bobby Wagner,
Speaker 9: that might be that that guy that you have to
Speaker 9: get through to find success in the run game overall.
Speaker 9: But there are some instances where you can find some success,
Speaker 9: not only in the middle, but if you can somehow
Speaker 9: get outside and not let these edges seal seal the edges,
Speaker 9: then I think you can get outside and one on
Speaker 9: one with these corners. These corners aren't going to tackle.
Speaker 6: Or no, they're not. They're not, they're not. So yeah,
Speaker 6: you look at it. He's absolutely right to me that
Speaker 6: if you block Bobby Wagner, there's your there's your chance
Speaker 6: right there, because he's your leading tackler when it comes
Speaker 6: to run stops. I mean, he's got seventy tackles. And
Speaker 6: then and then what's funny is it starts to be
Speaker 6: their safeties. Because that's a that's pretty that's pretty telling
Speaker 6: right there, that all of a sudden it goes linebackers to.
Speaker 4: Safeties, not defensive tackle defensive tackling.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's it's so that that shows you that
Speaker 6: they deal a lot with having to you know, to
Speaker 6: to do in the in the in the running game,
Speaker 6: they do.
Speaker 7: A heavy box a lot.
Speaker 6: I didn't, you know, it's funny. I didn't look at
Speaker 6: that part. I could look up here at the break,
Speaker 6: but I didn't look up. I didn't look up because
Speaker 6: I didn't think. Because Dan had always played with the
Speaker 6: safety and stuff like that, so you'all naturally think, but
Speaker 6: they don't play with the safe. He did it because
Speaker 6: he didn't have linebackers. But I'll look it up here
Speaker 6: at the break. What I thought was interesting is, you know,
Speaker 6: just if you look at a metrics thing, this team
Speaker 6: gives up more rushing first downs than even the Cowboys.
Speaker 6: That tells you something, you know, when you look at it.
Speaker 6: I mean, they've given up. They gave up ninety three.
Speaker 6: They were the tops in the league when it comes
Speaker 6: to giving up first downs by rush, you know. And
Speaker 6: Dallas is right there with him, and and we all
Speaker 6: understand how bad Dallas's run defenses, and how many times
Speaker 6: it feels like it's they're giving up first downs every
Speaker 6: time somebody hands them the ball. The Commanders are worse
Speaker 6: at it than the Cowboys are even so that's something
Speaker 6: to kind of keep an eye on. But can you
Speaker 6: run the ball, can you block the front? Can you
Speaker 6: block Bobby Wagner. That's the big issue here.
Speaker 8: Is this a game you would elevate Dalvin Cook?
Speaker 7: You know he's gotten I mean really over the last
Speaker 7: few weeks. It just seems like all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: it's like everybody's thinking, you ask him to get him in,
Speaker 7: and then they finally make him active and get him in,
Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden, it was like, yeah, nah,
Speaker 7: we're not going to do that.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 9: It's it's if this is a if this is a
Speaker 9: defense that you think you can get around and you
Speaker 9: can find success in outside zone, then I'm activating Dalwin Cook.
Speaker 6: You asked that every week, you asked for outside zone
Speaker 6: every week?
Speaker 9: True, you do, especially against a defense like this, I
Speaker 9: got because I don't trust this sidery.
Speaker 6: I stopped. I stopped asking for outside zone Dalvin Coach.
Speaker 4: Well, but let me ask you this.
Speaker 7: At this point, I think ric o'dowdell can do it
Speaker 7: if if you don't, necessarily the question is just can
Speaker 7: you can you go into a game and say we're
Speaker 7: going to commit to run the ball at Rico down
Speaker 7: because even in this last game, it's numbers weren't great,
Speaker 7: but they didn't give them ball much and maybe it
Speaker 7: got away from him. Who knows. I think maybe they
Speaker 7: got away from the running a little quick. But the
Speaker 7: fact of the matter is, like you, if you're going
Speaker 7: to go into a game, this seems like the kind
Speaker 7: of game you Sho would be able to go into
Speaker 7: and say, we are going to be committed to running
Speaker 7: the ball because the last thing we want is for
Speaker 7: that team to start figuring out that they're just gonna
Speaker 7: come and rush our passer, because that ain't gonna be
Speaker 7: a good outcome.
Speaker 6: Derek, this would be a great game to Trey Lance
Speaker 6: to run the ball a bunch, and.
Speaker 7: I'm with you on that too.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, a team that can't play
Speaker 6: run defense, and you're gonna go in here and you're
Speaker 6: probably gonna throw the ball fifty times with Cooper rush again.
Speaker 6: You know, Okay, then then that's what I'm saying. This
Speaker 6: is a game where I don't know.
Speaker 9: If that's the case, then we need to have another
Speaker 9: Travis Hunter conversation next Monday.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying though that that to me is this
Speaker 6: is what coaching is. Go try and take advantage of
Speaker 6: something that's not working for the other team. You know,
Speaker 6: he every week. He asks that, hey, well run the
Speaker 6: ball here, run the ball here. Run They don't run
Speaker 6: the ball here. You know, how do you watch? How
Speaker 6: do you watch these games? And we break it down
Speaker 6: and you see Carrie after Carrie after Carrie after Carrie.
Speaker 6: They're watching the same damn film.
Speaker 16: Mm hm.
Speaker 6: You know, how can you not sit there and say, man,
Speaker 6: they'll look very good. They're at on the edge. They
Speaker 6: really look like they're trying to get up the field.
Speaker 6: They're getting kicked out a bunch here. You know, it's
Speaker 6: like me watching the down in the red zone. It
Speaker 6: seems like the tight ends catching touchdowns every time. But
Speaker 6: do you think they'll throw a ball to a tight
Speaker 6: end down there at no? Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Final second of the Break, Live from the SWBC Mortgage
Speaker 7: studios at the Star. Let's get some questions. Got a
Speaker 7: question here from Chris Johnson. He shit, he said, Should
Speaker 7: they get turping even more snaps after what he did
Speaker 7: last week?
Speaker 8: Absolutely?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 9: When I look at only two slants run all year,
Speaker 9: why not do it more? I don't understand, So yes,
Speaker 9: the answer is yes for me.
Speaker 6: Absolutely yeah. Maybe maybe two maybe two throws the span
Speaker 6: Ford and the other nine to you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean try and find ways. I'm not just talking
Speaker 6: about getting the ball at or near the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 6: Work some combination routes with him, you know, try and
Speaker 6: free him. You know, see if you can see if
Speaker 6: you could get some stuff with you know, if you
Speaker 6: could bring him on some cross and stuff, you can
Speaker 6: hit him on the move. That fourth down pass he
Speaker 6: had against Atlanta they came back, they could have thrown
Speaker 6: at the game against the Falcons, they could have against
Speaker 6: the Eagles, they could have done it and they didn't
Speaker 6: hit him. Guy finds a way to get open. I
Speaker 6: throw him the football if I could. He's he's one
Speaker 6: of the legitimate play He.
Speaker 10: Was just jogging like that wasn't even the fastest he
Speaker 10: was running, So expect him to be a lot faster
Speaker 10: and hopefully but these things that we always ask for
Speaker 10: is just it never happens. And that's what drives me
Speaker 10: crazy and like insane because I feel like we watch
Speaker 10: something completely different than they watch. But then they're the experts.
Speaker 10: So then I'm like, wait, like why am I like?
Speaker 10: Are we watching the same game? Are we watching the
Speaker 10: same plays? But again, I am sure they have their
Speaker 10: reasonings and there's a something reason why to why they
Speaker 10: choose to play the way they play. But like an example,
Speaker 10: going back to you, I know we've always talked about
Speaker 10: lip Key for the longest time, and we've seen him
Speaker 10: a little bit here and there throughout the season, but
Speaker 10: it's never been like a commitment to use like your
Speaker 10: best players or these players that can be a lot
Speaker 10: more dynamic. And he's one of those guys that is
Speaker 10: very quick, very he can make those cuts and you
Speaker 10: just get him the ball. And not to switch back
Speaker 10: the conversation, but when in the last segment that you
Speaker 10: were talking about committing to the run, I'm just thinking,
Speaker 10: I'm like, Okay, we keep asking them to commit to
Speaker 10: the run, but then more often there than not, the
Speaker 10: runs are unsuccessful. So it's like, why would you keep
Speaker 10: trying to run the ball when you're continuously being unsuccessful
Speaker 10: with it?
Speaker 7: My thought would be number one, I think you have
Speaker 7: to think about how are you running the ball? H
Speaker 7: Are there some more creative ways that you can try
Speaker 7: to run the ball? Going to Brian's point about maybe
Speaker 7: using Trey lance a little bit more, I think there
Speaker 7: are things, you know, right, there are things you can
Speaker 7: do to change up what you do. It doesn't mean
Speaker 7: just keep doing the you know, power to the wall,
Speaker 7: power run right up behind the guard, like if it's
Speaker 7: not working, it's such work.
Speaker 6: Commanders doing it works yeah for them.
Speaker 7: But but I'm saying, like find find some other ways
Speaker 7: to do it. You know, I've seen some lesser skilled
Speaker 7: teams run the ball effectively against Dallas. Particularly, go back
Speaker 7: to that Arizona game last year. They ran the ball
Speaker 7: at will. They didn't do that to most teams in
Speaker 7: the league, but they found a creative way to do
Speaker 7: it against Dallas, taking advantage of some of the stuff
Speaker 7: that they knew Dallas wanted to do, and they gash them.
Speaker 7: I think there are some ways you can figure it
Speaker 7: out to be able to really if you're going to
Speaker 7: commit to the run, to really be able to effectively
Speaker 7: run the ball. And I just don't know that they've
Speaker 7: done that enough.
Speaker 10: Well, we'll keep waiting on it.
Speaker 7: We'll see if this is the weekend, Like.
Speaker 6: Guys, tell me when you're in your press box, see
Speaker 6: tell me next week if they did what you wanted
Speaker 6: to do.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the numbers say this is the week where you
Speaker 7: should at least consider it, right, you know, you should
Speaker 7: at least do something to try that. All right, let's
Speaker 7: go on to the next question. This question is from
Speaker 7: Bill bourn K. He says no, starting two rookies was risky,
Speaker 7: but any way to determine if if poor line offensive
Speaker 7: line play is due to coaching scheme, coaching scheme, or
Speaker 7: misevaluating talent. Even with the three vets.
Speaker 8: Going all three, I'm not going misevaluating just yet.
Speaker 6: I think the thing about it is it really hurt
Speaker 6: them that their right tackle took a step back, and
Speaker 6: then the and then the drastic fall of your right guard,
Speaker 6: coupled with the rookie center who's never played center, I
Speaker 6: think the biggest learning curve. And the kid's gotten better.
Speaker 6: Guidan's gotten better at left tackle, Yeah, he really has.
Speaker 6: It's you know, is it to the point where you know,
Speaker 6: is it is it like watching Tyler Smith play out
Speaker 6: there his rookie year. No, but I think that that
Speaker 6: just the right side of the offensive line. How quickly
Speaker 6: it fell off. I think there's some things with the
Speaker 6: you know, with the coaching as well. I think the scheme,
Speaker 6: particularly Derek, we just talked about it the previous question.
Speaker 6: I think there's things about the scheme that you have
Speaker 6: to question that probably aren't right, probably not conducive to
Speaker 6: how you're playing. So I man, I'm a I hate
Speaker 6: to be a ride the fence guy. I do feel
Speaker 6: like it's all the above. Yeah, you know, just Mark
Speaker 6: D on your scantron for all the above.
Speaker 7: For those out theres who don't know what a scantron is,
Speaker 7: we used to take tests on these things called scantron's mark.
Speaker 6: You know, look, I'm not that I'm young Mark D
Speaker 6: for all the above, right, yeah, because that's where this
Speaker 6: thing really at when we do the autopsy. Seriously, when
Speaker 6: we do the autopsy, start in the brain and go
Speaker 6: all the way down to the toes, and you're gonna
Speaker 6: figure it out. You know, it's there's a lot of things.
Speaker 6: It's not just one thing. There's a lot of things
Speaker 6: that's happened to this football team this year.
Speaker 9: I think I'm gonna go with coaching and scheme. I'm
Speaker 9: not gonna go with misevaluation just yet. I think there
Speaker 9: are a lot of individual problems happening on the offensive line.
Speaker 8: There was a word you said in there that said coupled.
Speaker 9: I think you could couple everything together and it ends
Speaker 9: up being four very big problems that I think you
Speaker 9: have upfront. We could start at left tackle. I'm under
Speaker 9: the impression that your left tackle is not the guy
Speaker 9: you wanted to start Week one, but you had to.
Speaker 9: I think the plan was to start too many dooga
Speaker 9: at left tackle, because you see whenever too many doga
Speaker 9: is starting to get worked back in. Mike McCarthy says, yes, yes,
Speaker 9: that's gonna throw a healthy competition back into that role.
Speaker 9: He was starting at left tackle up until he got
Speaker 9: hurt in training camp, and everyone was kind of looking around, like,
Speaker 9: all right, so wins Tyler gott even run with the ones.
Speaker 8: I don't think he ever was going to.
Speaker 9: I think he was going to get snaps, absolutely, but
Speaker 9: I don't think they wanted to throw him out there
Speaker 9: with just fourteen career starts and start at left tackle
Speaker 9: without playing the position in Week one against Miles Garrett.
Speaker 8: I don't think that was the plan.
Speaker 7: That's an interesting point.
Speaker 8: Left guard.
Speaker 9: I think your left guard is accounting for a lot
Speaker 9: of things happening around him. I think he's playing well.
Speaker 9: I don't think he's playing as well as he was
Speaker 9: last year, but I think he had better pieces around
Speaker 9: him last year. Your center is a rookie who was
Speaker 9: still trying to figure things out. I think he's gonna
Speaker 9: be a good player. I think he is, but he
Speaker 9: is having that rookie curve where okay, hey, definitely when
Speaker 9: you look up in five years, and you look at
Speaker 9: all five years on a window, you could be like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 9: that was his rookie year, but I think he's going
Speaker 9: to have a good start to his career. Your right
Speaker 9: guard is is coming down a little bit, and as
Speaker 9: we've talked about on this show, and your right tackle
Speaker 9: is not playing well at all, and unfortunately, I think
Speaker 9: that's a that's a situation where you're gonna have to
Speaker 9: look at it from from a holistic approach in the
Speaker 9: offseason and figure out is that the guy for the future.
Speaker 9: But when you pair all that together, I think you
Speaker 9: have a big problem. It doesn't matter what the coaching
Speaker 9: or the scheme is at that point, but I think
Speaker 9: when you do look at the scheme, this is a heavy,
Speaker 9: heavy zone scheme offensive line. And I think this type
Speaker 9: of offensive line needs to be gap schemed because I
Speaker 9: think if you have young guys up front with a
Speaker 9: running game that is not necessarily producing at the level
Speaker 9: that you want it to, make it a little bit
Speaker 9: less complex, make it a gap scheme offensive line.
Speaker 8: And it just hasn't been so far.
Speaker 6: Explain gap scheme.
Speaker 9: Yeah, gap scheme going after one guy on the defensive line,
Speaker 9: shout with Jerry Madaline, That's what I.
Speaker 6: Was thinking when you started talking about gap scheme.
Speaker 9: Gap scheme is basically you're lining up on the other
Speaker 9: side of the line of scrimmage and you're going after
Speaker 9: one guy. Where a zone is zone scheme, you're going
Speaker 9: after an air and you're trying to push guys that
Speaker 9: are out of that area. But that's where things can
Speaker 9: get complicated. Really good offensive lineman can do that well.
Speaker 9: I think they do that because you have a guy
Speaker 9: like Zach Martin and they've just been used to doing
Speaker 9: that because you had a Tyrone Smith, you had a
Speaker 9: Zach Martin, you had a Tyler Biadis who was good at.
Speaker 8: Times and doing zone scheme stuff.
Speaker 9: But I think now whenever you have young offensive linemen
Speaker 9: and you're having to account for a lot of things
Speaker 9: happening around you, that zone scheme can get really complicated.
Speaker 9: And also you don't have a running back in your
Speaker 9: backfield who I think can I identify those gaps a
Speaker 9: little bit quicker than guys you've had in the past.
Speaker 10: And that's where I have a problem with this whole situation.
Speaker 10: It's like, what have you tried to do differently to
Speaker 10: see if it works? To see if it helps them
Speaker 10: be better. You haven't, and you keep just running the
Speaker 10: same things every time basically without being successful. And it's
Speaker 10: just like, try to help him differently. You rely on
Speaker 10: two younger players on youth there, which is not ideal
Speaker 10: on unoffensive line, but I think in their moments, I mean,
Speaker 10: they've done okay, like enough.
Speaker 8: For what they are right now in their career.
Speaker 10: And then with Terrence Steele, the question is like it
Speaker 10: always makes me wonder. I'm like, why you've seen him
Speaker 10: be better, You've seen him be a solid guy, So
Speaker 10: what happened there? Exactly? Why are you regressing so much?
Speaker 10: You don't all of a sudden just lose power, lose
Speaker 10: muscle in that way, lose the ability to know where
Speaker 10: to place your arms and do the type of work
Speaker 10: and like get beat up every single time. So I
Speaker 10: and he's as far as I know healthy, like coming
Speaker 10: from last year, I remember him saying he's and they
Speaker 10: always say the same thing, like I felt, I feel
Speaker 10: the best I've ever felt. I feel the best I've
Speaker 10: ever felt. But that leads me just because I've seen
Speaker 10: him be better and play better, it leads me to
Speaker 10: think it's a coaching thing. It's a scheme thing that
Speaker 10: is just not working out for them.
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