1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In occasion didn't notice, I'm not broke. 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: decision makers. It's what he likes to do, it's what 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: he likes to share. Now it's time to hear from 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations here we come. 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Welcome on to Making Conversation. I'm your host with Sean McDonald. 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: It's important to understand that everybody travels a different path 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: to success. That's because your brand is different. The challenges 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: you face in your life are different. So stop reading 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: other people's success stories and start writing your own. Now. 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: You can be motivated by their success because their stories 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: can offer direction and help you reach your goals through 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: your planning and committed effort. My next guess is Lamon 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Rucker old friend. He's an actor, educated activist, an entrepreneur 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: whose career platform has used and has been used to influence, educate, 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: and ignite communities through artistic and academic innovation. Lamon is 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: starting in a new Christmas movie on their Own network 21 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: entitled Cooking Up Christmas. He plays a professional baseball player, 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: Donovan Jackson, who was a single dad of three and 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: even a living chef to get him through the holidays 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: with the kids. The chef role is played by Megan Holder. 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: She starts as an Atlanta based chef at a fine 26 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: dining restaurant who gets fired just weeks before Christmas, and 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: reluctantly the takes this job off her. Cooking Up Christmas 28 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: premieres Tuesday, December fifteen and nine pm Eastern on Own. 29 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: Please welcome to my moneymaking Conversation show, My man, Lamar Rocker. Man, 30 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: what's good? Thanks for having me man? Well, you know, 31 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, we we we we we have said with agreedlea. 32 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot for the last couple of years. 33 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: Has been very very good to the Rocker Halsehold has 34 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: been yeah, yeah, yeah, and I would I would love 35 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: to say, and vice versa. You know what I mean. 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: I try to try to be an asset everywhere I go. 37 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: So absolutely blessed and thankful, grateful to the Own lions Gate, 38 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: Harpo family for um UM for believing in me and 39 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: seeing the value that I can bring to UH, to 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: the work that they're creating. And I'm incredibly excited. I 41 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: think this is literally just the tippity Iceberg. I would 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: love to continue to do some some wonderful things in that, 43 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, in that family of of of allies, you know, 44 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: so shout out to Discovery UM, you know as well. Man, 45 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: you know everybody involved, So don't be surprised, man, I'm 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully be on some that geo stuff and 47 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: everything else. I'm like, you know, some cooking shows. You 48 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: might be building houses and gardening and who knows what, 49 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: like whatever, whatever. Don't don't get me excited that lament 50 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: because you know, relationships financial, you know, planning and travel 51 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: and like let's let's do it. Let's well, you know, 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 1: that's that's what we kind of say it off area 53 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: because our relationship goes way back, man. You know any 54 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: time I we've been on panels together for the Black 55 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: Back Black UH Movie Festival here in Atlanta, when I'd 56 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: asked you to come down to Disney for the Disney Dreamers. 57 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: You've always been a person who had value in conversation, 58 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: value and effort. You know, it was a lot of 59 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: people they say they do you do what you say? 60 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: Why is that important to you and your brand and 61 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: why it's important to educate young people moving forward? Yeah, well, 62 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: I think the most important thing is is where is 63 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: the last part of that question is it's the value. 64 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: It's it's your value and your understanding of your responsibility 65 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: to serve, you know, serve young people, serve peers. I mean, 66 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, you and I serve one another. We love 67 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: and support and encourage and empowering up lift each other. Um, 68 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: you know that the branding is completely secondary. I believe 69 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: if you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, if 70 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: you're being who you're supposed to be, if you're walking 71 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: and living and your love and your life on a 72 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: regular basis, your brand will be shaped around you, not 73 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: you having to try to be something you're not just 74 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: because it's gonna sell or look good or profit you 75 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: in some way. So I do my best to work 76 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: from the inside out, not the outside in. And that's 77 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: been my walk to just be authentic to who I am, 78 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: to use my voice, um, you know, to speak for truth, 79 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: to speak to equality to speak to education and um, 80 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: you know, empowerment and equality for all people. So in 81 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: all the various ways that I try to do that, Um, 82 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: that's really what's important to me. And I think that's 83 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: important for everybody to find and identify what their walk 84 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: is and how their voices and how they fight for 85 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: faith and how they fight for fulfillment and uh, and 86 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: how they fight for freedom well as awesome when when 87 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: I look at our relationship and look at your you know, 88 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: your producer you know, and uh, actors. Sometimes a lot 89 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: of people look at an actor said, that's all they 90 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: do is act. But you've been an entrepreneur in my life. 91 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: You've been an activist in my life. Now this movie here, 92 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: we know pandemic has been raging this year and you 93 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: just came off the very successful series green Leaf. How 94 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: is that? You know, we always want to be involved 95 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: with projects that are special to me. That felt like 96 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: a very special series. And you know you've done a 97 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: lot of significant work. Don't don't get me wrong, you know, 98 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: because I know your resume. But how whether that onether 99 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: that that relationship with that series landing your career? Oh man, 100 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: it's what's what you just gave me chills because uh, 101 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: and I just became aware of the chill right as 102 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: I was about to open my mouth. But uh, it's 103 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: real deep how you know what life uh not just 104 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: does for you, but what it does in you. And 105 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: and I found a very very poetic timing, if you will, 106 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: with the work that has uh come my way and 107 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: the work that I've chosen to do. This isn't just 108 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: somebody plucking you and saying I like you, I want 109 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: you and then you just say you know, it's a 110 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: relationship and it's an agreement to say, Okay, you want 111 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: me to be there, and you think I'm your guy, 112 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: let me make sure i'm your guy because if I 113 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: say yes, I've got work to do. I've got a 114 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: duty to you, I've got an obligation to you. But 115 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: I want to have fun with you. I want us 116 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: to do something profound and I want to be able 117 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: to authentically bring myself, bring my gift, bring my voice 118 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: to you to elevate what we're gonna do together. And 119 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: that um the timing of green leaf, uh and even 120 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: my own personal wife of faith, of fatherhood, of husbandhood, 121 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: of you know, brother hood, UM whatever a service UM 122 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: really had a really interesting actually contrast in many ways, 123 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: but also an interesting parallel to Jacob's you know, um life, 124 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: to Jacob's walk, to his process of self discovery, um 125 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, him trying to figure out who he is 126 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: and what he is and how to you know, create 127 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: his own identity aside from you know, all these other 128 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: people in this family. Family. But it ain't no small 129 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, and it's and as regular as we are, 130 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: which is what we all made a commitment to do, 131 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: is like no, no, no no, We're gonna show that this 132 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: this family is real regularly are normal, regular folks. I 133 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: got regular, real stuff like any other family. Let's focus 134 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: on that. You know, if we focused on that, all 135 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: the other fabulousness about us, you know, we'll just be 136 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: icing on the cake. But let's be the cake, not 137 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: the icing, you know what I'm saying, Not just trying 138 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: to be the little fancy, cute sweet cherry on top. 139 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: Let's be you know, let's give this some real density 140 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: and structure and flavor and you know, really let it. 141 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: Let this be a rich moist gate that you want 142 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: more and more and more of. So that it was 143 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: a lot of fun doing that, and it was a 144 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: great character exploration. Wonderful to play somebody who I believe 145 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: was a really magnificent example of the beauty and brilliance 146 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: of black family and even of a black man, to 147 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: show that even in his flaws, and however he might 148 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: screw up the time of time and make poor decisions, 149 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: at his core, Um, you saw how you know, you 150 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: you saw how incredibly wonderful he was, and you were 151 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: praying for him and um, hoping that he would succeed, 152 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: and and knowing that he wanted to do better, and 153 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: you wanted what he wanted for him. Actually you wanted 154 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: more than he may have even wanted for himself. And 155 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: that's so very true. That's true, very true. And then 156 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: watch him go through it was the fun of it. 157 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: Most of the time we've got we keep these you know, 158 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: barricades up, or we put these facades up so you 159 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: can't really see the truth. And I tried at least 160 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: let us do this and at some point remove that 161 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: veil altogether and really let people kind of see the heart. 162 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: Um uh, you know, in the trials and tribulations. That's 163 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: why I love that character for you, Lamar, That's why 164 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: I love that character for you, because, like I said, 165 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm mad. I get mad. I got mad at you. Okay, 166 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, right, you know what I'm saying. 167 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: You walk into Harvard, you know, you know, apartment with 168 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: this chick. Come on, come on, loan, I'm talking to 169 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: the screen. I'm talking to Saxa exactly. Stop. Stop. That's 170 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: what too. Man. There's so many men, you know. It's 171 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: been great that on occasies like you know, they like 172 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: of course the dominant fan base of women around the 173 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: world is great, you know, but to have you know, 174 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: a very equitable admiration and respect and appreciation of the 175 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: men you know around the world, not just brothers and 176 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: black men especially, you know, but even to have them 177 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: roll up and be like, hey, hey bro, I appreciate you. Man, 178 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, yelling at you from across the street. I 179 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: see you dog, keep doing what you think you know, 180 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: but whatever, just all flow down. Stop man, full up. 181 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: I think I've got countless warning from don't do it. 182 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 1: Wait you know, things like that. Absolutely, you know what 183 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean. And you need to handle that little girl. Man, 184 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, hey, girls, ain't no joke. 185 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: It's tough in so many ways that Jacob uh, you know, 186 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: so many other men identified with him, and I thought 187 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: it was aporting me a lot of pride to tell 188 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: the truth in that way and for that the resonation. 189 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: And then I thought port lamar on their character because 190 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: you know, a daughter and the okay and so and 191 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: that that that role that you played, that male figure, 192 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: and we all know how that plays out in the 193 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: black community. You know, what what is the young lady 194 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: think of our dad? What is the right the young 195 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: man think of the role of how his dad treated women? 196 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: And all those things. You know, it's a really great stories. 197 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: You know, I hope people go and created and executed 198 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: scial out to you know, uh to to Craig Right 199 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: and and Oprah and Clement Virgo as well in particular 200 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: Chris turn of Towns and you know all the other 201 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: people that we've got, um again writing stories are incredible 202 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: writing team, all of our other directors and of course 203 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: you know my acting, you know, my other peers on screen. 204 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: But there's so many countless people that were involved in 205 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: telling that story. Um. But yeah, just the creation of it, 206 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: support behind it and uh, cinematograph. I mean, it's just 207 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: it's such a beautiful old piece of piece of art 208 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, lives on. Well, uh, well I think it's 209 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: a countless ageless classic. I really do. It definitely is. 210 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: And let's go on, just cooking up Christmas here, cooking up. 211 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: There's Tuesday December fifty on on at nine pm. You 212 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: know it's family. You got some more kids now show. 213 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: But you just bite yourself this time. You handsome athletes 214 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: got you, that's right, You got all the things that's 215 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: just say, be successful. You got you got the beautiful kids, 216 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: the house, your successful athlete. But there's no woman now 217 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: this ye, you got money, all this stuff that's supposed 218 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: to make you whole, right, yes, yes, yes, yes, So 219 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: tell us how this movie came on your came on 220 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: your desk, and how you are the opportunity presented itself 221 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: to you? And did you shoot it during COVID or 222 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: before COVID? Indeed during COVID. So that was that was 223 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: crazy too. I mean, getting tested, temperature checks every day, 224 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: and and you know the whole crew and uh, everybody's 225 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: got masks and shields and you know what I mean. 226 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: And you gotta remember in between takes and after in 227 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: between set ups, like oh we put my mask back 228 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: on you know, let me wash my hands, I'll let 229 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: me do this. And it's you know, and social distancing 230 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: and yeah, it was, it was. It was an undertaking, 231 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: you know. Um, and I uh it was, it was something. 232 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: And I did three projects actually during um, you know, 233 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: during during covid um and uh, they were they were 234 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: they were different. It was, it was it was quite 235 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: a different march. Um. But you know, but this coming about, um, 236 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: you know, you know again, shout out again to the 237 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: entire uh Oprah family, you know, shout out to the 238 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: whole thaige core family, you know, living Hope, um, you know, 239 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: everybody in the process and you know, uh on my 240 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: team you know as well. And it just ended up 241 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: being a great uh, a great match, great marriage. My 242 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: man Roger Bob also directed. Yeah that's also that's awesome. 243 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: That was icing on the cake the show man actually 244 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: speaking of green Lely, Um, Um, what's uh county's last name? 245 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: County Psychs Deacon Psychs, you know, played by Jenn Harper Lays. 246 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: Jen plays my mother in this film, so okay, you know, 247 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: and uh and and my man a lot who also 248 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: plays one of our deacons. Uh. 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That's O T T E R 292 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: dot AIUT parrel on my hands. Do I throw away 293 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: the rubber gloves? And now you come to a set 294 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: where you have all these protocols of safety. But then 295 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: you also remember you gotta go back home. You gotta 296 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: go back home, and and yes, and so how did 297 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: you walk through the this? Because I have to put 298 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: the word courage in front of your name, Okay, because 299 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: this is a courageous action. You know, it's for your craft. 300 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: It's also to put food on the table. How it's 301 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: a courageous action about you. Let's talk about mentally where 302 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: you were at physically you know you could do it. 303 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: Put the mental part the challenge and then with the 304 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 1: amount of time that we had to shoot. So you know, 305 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: everything now is being so condensed, wanting because you are 306 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: also trying to not only minimize costs, but minimize this, 307 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: expose your risks and all that. So you're literally working 308 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: virtually every day for a month, maybe with one day 309 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 1: off every six you know, seven days or something like that. 310 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Um, the hours are crazy, 311 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: So you've got to take care of your body and 312 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: be careful about being fatigued and make sure you're getting 313 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: a proper rest and recovery and nutrition, you know, just 314 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: so you can do the job let alone. You've got 315 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: to be careful not to make yourself vulnerable to getting 316 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, to getting sick because even if you 317 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: were to contract anything. And again it's getting chilly, the 318 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: season is changing, even screwed up the environment so much 319 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: even the animals are confused, you know what I'm saying. So, um, 320 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of things you've got to be 321 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: aware of and not trying not to say, be aware 322 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: of instead aware of and so as courageous a walk 323 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: it is if you're if you're comfortable, if you create confidence, 324 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: um in yourself and how you are going about things, 325 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: doing the best you can and being disciplined and consistent, 326 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: also setting that example for others, and then yeah, holding 327 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: other people as well as um, those that are responsible 328 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 1: for creating the environment to keep you safety, keep you safe, 329 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: and to focus on that safety and having these protocols 330 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: in place, you start to be able to just kind 331 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: of relax and not think and worry so much about it. 332 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: You know, you have COVID compliance officers on set UM. 333 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: You know, again, we get tested on a regular basis 334 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: as well. And there was one person that I recall 335 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: that actually UM didn't necessarily test positive, but they thankfully 336 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: openly reported that. I think they either lived with somebody 337 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: that just worked with somebody who had a positive test 338 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: contract and then they isolated that person, I believe, or 339 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: asked them not to come to work until they did 340 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: a b C d E and then, you know what 341 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean. So I think that people are doing the 342 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: best they can because again, they also don't want to 343 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: get shut down, right. That's why I was really great 344 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: that that person appreciate our unions and I appreciate the 345 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: entities that are there to hold people accountable, you know, 346 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: because that doesn't allow them to be irresponsible, or to 347 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: be laxed, or to be negent, you know, not to 348 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: mention just personally, regardless of what rules there are, how 349 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: you choose to get down, you know, and how you flow, 350 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: you know, should be at a consistent standard, no matter 351 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: what are the rules somebody else is making, you know, 352 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: I was saying the other day matter that we're talking 353 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: about cops and law enforcement on an earlier interview, for example, 354 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I wasn't. I wasn't afraid of the 355 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: cops when I was like, when I was younger, I 356 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: would worry about the law of the house, for the 357 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: law of family, you know, so regardless of what other 358 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: laws and rules and protocols there are around you, you know, 359 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: in these systems, that really matters is how you govern yourself. 360 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: You know. Um, you know, independent of that cool cooking 361 00:20:55,480 --> 00:21:00,120 Speaker 1: of Christmas, this is about food. This is about Christmas time. Now, 362 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: let's let's let's go and have some fun here, Okay. No, 363 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: I know, because because she's a she's a chef, and 364 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: then it's the story about because you know, the thing 365 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: about black families, food is like especially during the holiday season, 366 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: you know, all we think about it. I'm sure every 367 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: family thinks about those plates, talk about the Every culture 368 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: is a centerpiece. Food and family is the centerpiece of 369 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: any you know, so and so. To me, to me, 370 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: this is the worst thing that could come your way. 371 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: You know, you in COVID doing a TV show, a 372 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: movie's movie that's gonna be airing on own on December 373 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: fifteen and food is the center and it's romance. So 374 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: again again it's romantic and COVID food, you and COVID. 375 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: So it's like, this is a beautiful movie concept, but 376 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: all these uh, the safety protocols are sitting that you 377 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: can't really be romantic, that you really can't talk about 378 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 1: that man kind. We were kind of like, well, you know, 379 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: like I always have these conversations with my leading ladies. Anyway, 380 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: it's just like, okay, so how can I touch your 381 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: ultimate one with one another or into each other or 382 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: married for years or whatever. All right, let's talk about 383 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: our you know, boundaries. And so now it's almost almost 384 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: like assumed, well almost like well, all right, well obviously 385 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: we ain't gonna be touching each other again, gonna be 386 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: kissed with each other. So how we're gonna do this 387 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: without making it weird or making it, you know, not 388 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: look fluid and sincere and warm and romantic. So again 389 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: you start to figure out how to do that with 390 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: these adjustments. But yeah, it was tough. You see all 391 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: this food and you want to be like, yeah, it 392 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: passed me to such a such and you know, pass 393 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: this instead. All the foods covered we got masks on. 394 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: You can't touch each other's utensils. And I mean it's 395 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: like the whole point of this timing year typically is 396 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: this roximity. It's this, It's this intimacy, it's just sharing. 397 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: It's this, you know what I mean. It's yeah, it's 398 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: the fact that I ain't seeing you all year or 399 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: maybe in years. So now we're gonna be all over 400 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: each other's family, on top of each other, kids on 401 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: your last plane. That's what. That's the right the kids, 402 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, you know you're you're an athlete, 403 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: and you know your dad's home and run up to you. 404 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: That can't happen. You know, you're sitting on the sofa, 405 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, jump on you know that can't happen. So 406 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: it really you really got now you really got to 407 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: think about the acting steps, the acting techniques and thought 408 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: and things. Is taking it beyond normalcy to COVID and eighteen. Yeah, 409 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: it's tricky, but but again, everybody, please have the discipline 410 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: to do things differently than you know this year. Trust me, 411 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: it's okay. The sooner we have that discipline that than 412 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: this year and a probably even next year, you know, 413 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: but I'd rather sacrifice the comforts that we're accustomed to 414 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: for however, so many prior decades or centuries or generations. 415 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: I'd rather sacrifice these two years in order to get 416 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: the best of some of those traditions back. But if 417 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: we don't have the discipline, it won't just take one 418 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: or two years, it will take five to twenty will 419 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: never get ourselves back on track. Some things we probably 420 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: should do a little differently, you know. So this is 421 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: probably gonna teach us some new lessons and maybe some 422 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: new traditions and that are also be discovered. But yeah, 423 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: we want to get back to the stuff that's that's 424 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: really warm and really then you know, about being loving 425 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: human beings because you brought this earlier about the home life. 426 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: You know a lot of things that we got away 427 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: from what is higgs and washing your hands and all 428 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: those things, because you know, they've always said doing the flu, 429 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: if you just wash your hands, that would cut down 430 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: or you're getting the flu. That's always been stated, okay, 431 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: And so wearing a mask is part of the bard 432 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: is just an upgrade to washing your hands all the time. 433 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: But so so we're not asking people to do anything 434 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: outside of normalcy other than other than you can't hug everybody. 435 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, and you can't hug everybody. 436 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: Be more mindful of that. And so when you come up, 437 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: when you gotta show the movie coming out like cooking 438 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: up Christmas, like I said again, premiers uh Decenter fifteen 439 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: owned stars my man Lamar Rutger who has been in everything, 440 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: and uh and then from an activist, well if you 441 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: had to say anything, and and just wrapping up because 442 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: I can never just talk to you about your projects 443 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: because you are like you was honored this year by 444 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: uh Cafe Moke Radio. I saw that when you were 445 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: honored so and I was really I was proud. I 446 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: watched that and you know he's on the big screen 447 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: and lending love was talking to you and everything, and 448 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: those are the moments man, that UH makes me feel 449 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: good about you, man, makes me feel good about the 450 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: relationship I have with you. We've raded over the year. 451 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: Tell us about being honored by Cafe Moke Radio. Well, 452 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: I mean that then a lot, man. I mean, that's 453 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: that's part of what I was saying earlier. Man. Um, 454 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: you know, you know how it is as as a 455 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: black man, and there's I mean, aside from again obviously 456 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: shining on each other and knowing how wonderful we are 457 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: as black men. Um. Having the love and support, um 458 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,479 Speaker 1: and encouragement of your sisters and of your you know, 459 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: a black the black woman in general is incredibly powerful. 460 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: So my respect for the ladies over there and what 461 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: they've been doing over the years, Um, the lives that 462 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: they're living, the legacies that they're building, and the fact 463 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: that they also now created this vehicle to support and 464 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: acknowledge and uplift other people as well. It's incredibly powerful things. 465 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: So I was wonderfully honored um always uh, you know, 466 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: entertained by by the gifts and personalities of a girl 467 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: Lonnie and uh you know the rest of the crew 468 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: over there. Um. So you know, when we do this, 469 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: even when you and I, this is always this is 470 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: part of this is part of the love. But this 471 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: is also part of the accountability. You know. We know 472 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: that when we're out here walking our walk, that would 473 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: representing each other, you know, and every opportunity we get, 474 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: whether it's this direct or not, you know, it's always 475 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: about like, hey, how can I you know, make sure 476 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm showing love, supporting and shining like on what this 477 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: person is doing because if they're doing something wonderful, then 478 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: and they're also a reflection of me and a reflection 479 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: of so many of the other people who are out 480 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: there doing something wonderful. So let's let's tell the story. 481 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: Let's show that, um, this great stuff has happening. You know. 482 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: Look look, you know, look around. You know, so even 483 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: my organization, the Black Gents, like that's what we're about. 484 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: And it's like, yo, like, look at the look at 485 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald, Look at the Rashan McDonald's of the world. 486 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: Look at the other men out here doing what we 487 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: know black men do and what we know black men 488 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: do on the regular. Hey, what are our sisters doing? 489 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: What are our mothers and daughter is and you know 490 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: and lovers and grandmothers and whatever, what are they doing? Okay, 491 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: let's shine on our women. Let's uphold and uh and 492 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: love and you know, support. Like whatever our women and 493 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: sisters and children are doing, how can we do that? 494 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: Like that's like that's an incredible way to uh to 495 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: live and breathe. And anybody that's part of that type 496 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: of love proposition, anybody that's out here, um, fighting for 497 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: what's right, even when nobody's looking like. Those are the 498 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: stories I'm always open to telling. And those are the 499 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: people that I love to lock arms with. You know, 500 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: So you're speaking a lock of in this march with you, 501 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: bro if I've always you know, as as a famous 502 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: um work where you locking arms like this, you know 503 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: he's reaching down like that. I've always envisioned that being 504 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: the role you playing, like because like like I said that, 505 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: he's more than an actor. He's an activist. He's a 506 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: he's a community uplifter. I'm gonna make up of where 507 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: he's in the community uplift there. That's what he does. 508 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,239 Speaker 1: All the times I've asked him, all the times I 509 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: didn't ask him, he's called. But his brother has been 510 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: to Dollars with me, to Steve Harvard camps. He's been 511 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: to Orlando with me, to the Disney Dreamers. These are 512 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 1: these kids, Okay. He set aside the time I've been 513 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: sitting on board much with him talking about how to 514 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: break into the film industry in Atlanta. So I got 515 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: a track record with him and showing what he's done 516 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: in the black gents and him being an entrepreneur, and 517 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: and they were, like said, these interviews always fun with 518 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: me because, like I said, we talked about his role 519 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: and what he's doing on the screen, but it always 520 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: drips back to the man he is off the screen 521 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: and cooking up Christmas is just an opportunity to see 522 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: his talents December fifteen on the Old Network. But more importantly, 523 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: what he's doing off the camera. You know, when he's 524 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: doing walking down the street, when you're going, hey Jacob Steep, 525 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: rocking boy, I love you and Green keep left the 526 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: brother your community up and left the lament. Thank you, bron. 527 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: I really want to thank my legure man. Thanks always. 528 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: So you know, so uh so much fun to be 529 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: here with your bag. Like literally, we could do this 530 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: even with there were no cameras or whatever. Man, we'd 531 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: be just chopping it up, you know what I mean. 532 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: And we don't chop it up. Like I said, I'll 533 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: turn you off air. Don't do this, man, just sit 534 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: around Atlanta. All that stuff you were talking about. We 535 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: could do it now again. If you want to come 536 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: to you want to see any more episodes of Money 537 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: Making Conversation, please go to money Making Conversation dot com. 538 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: If you want to subscribe, please go to my YouTube 539 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: challenge Again. I want to thank Lamar and Rucket for 540 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: coming on the show. Please make sure you look up 541 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: Cooking Up Christmas. It prepars Tuesday, December fifteen on All Network. Also, 542 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: if you miss it, it's always on pay per view. 543 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: Leek really is always on pay I believe as well. Okay, Cool, 544 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate you all. We talked soon. Thank you much, 545 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: success and blessings. Man happened holiday already. In this season 546 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: of giving, Coals has gifts for all your loved ones. 547 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: For those who like to keep it cozy, find fleeces, sweaters, loungeware, 548 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: blankets and throws, or support minority owned or founded brands 549 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: by giving gifts from Human Nation and Shame Moisture. 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