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You know, he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs 27 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: and industry decision make because it's what he likes to do. 28 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald. Money making conversations. Here 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: we come. That's right. Welcome to money making Conversations. I 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: am your host Rushan McDonald. Every Monday, you can see 32 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: me live on Facebook from ten a m. To noon 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia. My next guest day on the phone. 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: I love these two people. May brother and sister due 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: of Jake and Jazz Smolt are teaming up to transform 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: the living, work and play spaces of millennial families. That's 37 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: that's that's right. I got a millennial if she's twenty 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: one years old, and so I got to hear this 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: story out loud and clear TV's new lifestyle series Living 40 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: by Design with Jake and Jazz. In this series, they 41 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: create simple solutions to everyday design dilemmas for aspiring millennial families. 42 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: Please welcome back to money making conversations Jake and Jazz 43 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: smaller energized this time, Jake, you know what I'm saying 44 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: last time time, Sean. This is early on the West Coast, 45 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: this Los Angeles, this early, it's early. Well you the 46 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: first of all, I'm big fans and uh and when 47 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: I heard about this, uh, this millennial show, I like, 48 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: I said, I got a twenty one year old, okay, 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: and she got she got ideas. She doesn't have a 50 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: she doesn't have a TV show, even want the TV. 51 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: And she looks at everything on her phone and uh, 52 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: you know, she she has her own sense of what 53 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: she wants to be. She lives on campus now and 54 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: then she's back home for the summer because she's taking 55 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: summer classes. So when you say the word millennial, what 56 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: age group are you looking at in that range that 57 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: you're focusing on your show? I believe millennial now like 58 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: some of the younger kids are technically gen z or something. Um, 59 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: you might have a gene. I don't know, you know 60 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: how they start drawing the line. But I think like 61 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: a lot of the people that we're working with are 62 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: like mid twenties and their thirties. I think like there, yeah, 63 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: and they have like their apartments and they're you know, 64 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: or they have a young family, or they're expecting a family, 65 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: or they're single and just started their career, just took 66 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: a shift in their careers or things like that. Yeah, 67 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: that that's about right, because you know it goes from 68 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: eighteen to thirty four. That's that that age range. Yeah, 69 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: you're hit you hitting that out of college. They got 70 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: bills coming away, They got trouble coming their way, right right. 71 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: So so this idea okay, because each one you have 72 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: special skills and your brother and sisters. So we all 73 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: know I have six sisters and have two brothers, so 74 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, we don't always agree. I think that's a 75 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: great dynamic to have in the show. Tell me how 76 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: the role plays out for you too. On this show, 77 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: we found a good way to split up the work 78 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: so we do I have our individual skills and to 79 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: not overlap too much. But when it comes down to it, 80 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: I'm the box and so that's how it works out 81 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: really well. I am the older one, so you know, 82 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: just kidding. But the way that we do it is 83 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: that we do a reveal meal at the end. Jake 84 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: does a I do a design and a dessert for 85 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: My focus is the overall design of the space and 86 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: making a dessert for the reveal party. And Jake's focus 87 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: is a build and a meal. So he makes the 88 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: main course and he also builds a custom peace for 89 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: um before eating faces that we're doing, or he refurbishes 90 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: a piece. Okay, cool, now dessert you hit my you 91 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: hit my home run list right there. Now, is any 92 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: desserts from your book the Family Table or these are 93 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: just desserts as outside of that book. There was People 94 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: by the Way, I recommend that's my favorite book. That's 95 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: how I met this this family here was through the book. 96 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: Now you talk about desserts. I was asking you, is 97 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: any or any of these desserts in the Family Table book? 98 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: Some of them are, and then some of them are 99 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: new ones I've developed or ones I've had from before. Um, 100 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: I love making desserts. So there's a lot of different 101 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: stuff there. We have sixteen different episodes, so a few 102 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: of the episodes have desserts from the family table. I 103 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: think the one that just aired, the one that just aired, Yes, 104 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: that's in the family table. It was a chocolate uh 105 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: flowerless chocolate cake. Yes, oh yes, oh yes, chocoholic. My 106 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: wife loves chocolate. She loves chocolate. I see, I don't 107 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: like chocolate people, but she loves chocolate. Make her that cake, 108 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: just for no reason, Make that cake because see this this, 109 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: see this past. You know, when he was on the 110 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: show last I were talking about I made that which 111 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: I love. The lobster roll. You know, I grew a 112 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: lobster roll, favorite sandwich. They're awesome. Now, my wife, she 113 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: came up two weeks ago. A week ago, she came 114 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: in right before we went on our cruise. She said, 115 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: what do you want? I said, well, can you make 116 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: me some gumbo? She said our aversary and say, hey, hey, 117 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: the family table. You go around the corner to the 118 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: family dead was sitting on the counter. So she going there, 119 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, and so I so you know, I'm I'm 120 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm country. Now you know I might be a successful 121 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: financial Last deal take by lunches to work. I like 122 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: real home launches, and so she made me. So I 123 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: had my corn bread, I had my white rice, and 124 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: I was taking my gumbo to work on two days 125 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: in a row. Took my gun would work. Then then 126 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: my wife from the look, I just sent my free 127 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: schoolers to school with chicken. What I'm saying. What I'm 128 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: saying that my wife will freeze everything. She freeze everything, 129 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: freeze everything. Okay, so of course you went. I told 130 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: my dogter, please don't make sure when I died, my 131 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: my wife freeze me. Don't freeze me. Don't freeze me. 132 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: And so, uh, that's a commitment that's in my wheel. 133 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: Do not freeze me, because she freezes everything. And so 134 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: I come back. I come back from the cruise in Alaska. 135 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: You freeze everything. And so I come back from the 136 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: cruise in Alaska. And so I said, I'm homeward. She said, 137 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: I got some gumbo. I froze it. Bro I was 138 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: one dollars happy. She froze and food, I mean some 139 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: crackers and some white rice. Then and thought out that 140 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: gumbo and the microwade. Oh my gosh, hey, what happened 141 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: with my phone? Well, I'm tasting man. We've been talking 142 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: about this gumbo that my wife froze. That when she unfrozen, 143 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: it was taste better than when the first time she 144 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 1: gave it to me. Live man out the family table, 145 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: filled out the family table. Now it's the funny part 146 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: before before you got cut off there, sir, she was 147 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: talking about how she was running things. She was the 148 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: oldest and you gave that a little lad And she 149 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: told me that, uh, the episode that just aired. She 150 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: you know they used the chocolate flower with his cake. Correct, 151 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: that was the air the episode had just recently aired. 152 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: Because she doesn't she doesn't dessert. Yeah, and so she 153 00:08:52,720 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: gumbo pasta. Let somebody. These two people in this phone, um, 154 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: they know how to cook, so you know, come time 155 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: to tell you. So I get a lot of interview 156 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: a lot of cooks, and I actually get a lot 157 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: of cookbooks on the show. And see I'm one of 158 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: the people. I actually you know, I'm a baker or 159 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: winning baker. And I'm also a homegrown cooker from the 160 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: southeastern Texas, you know, Fifth War neighborhood boy, so little 161 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: Louise out in my background. So so I know how 162 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: to throw down. So so when books come my way. 163 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: And this is just just being honest and about what 164 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: they have in that book. It's a very easy book. 165 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: We're talking about the Family Table. The family Table, the 166 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: entire family is on the cover, and uh, it's easy 167 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: and so it's it's uh the food is uh diverse 168 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: when I'm talking about it's just a range of different items. 169 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 1: The desserts are easy to make. And it's one of 170 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: my favorite books. And I just want to let everybody 171 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: know that I my wife uses it and uh, I 172 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: let my daughter cook out of it. And so it's 173 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: a family experience and that's why I like it because 174 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: anybody in my family, everybody my family has experienced cooking 175 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: from that book. And it's called The Family Table. You 176 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: guys have done a tremendous job on putting that book together. 177 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking to uh, Jake and Jazz all that. There's 178 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: the stars of new show Living by Design that airs 179 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: on Cleo TV every noon every on Saturday, every Saturday noontime. 180 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: They've taped sixteen episodes. Now I always tell people when 181 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: you do that many episodes, there's there's there's your favorite. 182 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: And so I'm not saying both of you have the 183 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: same favorite episode. But what episode really said, Wow, that 184 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: that that that this is why I do what I do. 185 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 1: Starting with you, Jake. One of my favorites was a 186 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: new couple, UM, Lisa and Tyler, and they've been together 187 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: for ten years and there's seven and nine so high 188 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: school sweetheart. Um, they finally got their own place. You 189 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: just proposed to her and he comes from living with 190 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: roommates and she comes from living with family. So it 191 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: was nice, you know, a young black couple starting out, uh, 192 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: and get to see them really get all the things 193 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: they needed more it right and it really has this 194 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: bohemian vibe and that really really kills that design, and 195 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: that was a really really fun one. So that's one 196 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: of my favorite. But I mean, yeah, when you do sixteen, 197 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: you have a relationship with all the absolutely, absolutely absolutely. 198 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: But you know, like I say, I've done production and 199 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: I know certain things are certain scripts, I've written, a 200 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: certain actors, I've met, a certain everything has I always 201 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: tell people each story is like a child, you know, 202 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: you the script birth, say, the production grows it in 203 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: the editing in the editing room gives it life. And 204 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: so these experiences, especially especially in the you know in 205 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: the world that we live in the reality. You know, 206 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: you're a real person. You're not playing a personal TV. 207 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: You're playing your helf and so that has a different 208 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: effect and then a different level of respect because you 209 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: care about these people, you care about your brand, you 210 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: care about You're not You're not doing this for a joke. 211 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: You're doing it to make change people's lives and also 212 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: giving an experience that when you walk away from it, 213 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: they feel that, hey, they took the time, you know, 214 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, Jazz and Jake took down to make my 215 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: life better. And I think that that's why it resonates 216 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: with me. And when when when I talk to you too, 217 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: and I'm excited about the show, and I'm gonna put 218 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: this show I'm gonna get I'm gonna call your contact 219 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: people and get a flyer banner to put in my 220 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: newsletters goes out to two your thirty people. Also give 221 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: me a banner going on my social media. Because I 222 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: believe in you too. I believe in you too. I 223 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: I I this this, this this concept of money making 224 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: conversation I put together to be able to because you're 225 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: both of your celebrities, and it allows you to have 226 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: a regular conversation with a regular dude who's well experienced 227 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of things in life. But I just 228 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: want to share your success stories and the fact that 229 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: you're doing this show as siblings, and the fact that 230 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: I come from a big family, six sisters, two brothers. 231 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: I saw him this weekend, you know, was eating food, 232 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: eat the barbecue, alright, but little nephew here that little 233 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: barbecue staying sweep one top. Y'all, y'all mess around me. 234 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: We're going to get together and come in l A 235 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: to eat because I love to eat. We can just go, 236 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: we go to We're going to bless those barbecue. I'm 237 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: seriously because I believe in both of your brands, and 238 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: I just wanta everybody know if you you gotta gotta 239 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: buy a book. Family Table Living by Design with Jas 240 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: and Jake is on every Saturday noon Eastern Standard time 241 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: on Cleo TV. They got They take sixteen episodes. If 242 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: you're missing the episodes, goal YouTube, go go to the website. 243 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: You gotta look at you gotta follow their brand. I 244 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: believe in their brand, um their family, and they're from Louisiana, 245 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: so guess who they know how they eat, they know 246 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: how to cook, their family. The family table. Thank you 247 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: for coming on my show again. Team, We'll be right 248 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: back with more from Marsan McDonald and money making conversations. 249 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: Don't touch that down. The kids are asking what to 250 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: get you for Mother's Day. Your son suggested a World's 251 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: Greatest Dad T shirt and the girl's going with a 252 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: pony pony sweet. Seriously, what can the kids get you? 253 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: You know what? I'd really love that baseball card collection, 254 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: your mom threw out. No, well, yeah, but you know 255 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: how I've been working late and traveling more. Yeah. Well, 256 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: I worry about you guys. 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Blink protect dot Com slash 266 00:14:54,400 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: Secure also available on Amazon added Best Buy. Hi, this 267 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: was Sean McDonald. How you doing this? Just came over 268 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: talking about food. Now I'm gonna talk about this next 269 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: young man, Dad. I think that he's doing some things 270 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: I would never do. I never could do a capable 271 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: of doing. And I always getting guests on the shore 272 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: as part of the fun of this show as I 273 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: run into guests that go, wow, that's that's something I made. 274 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm a smart guy, but physically, even though I look 275 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: like I'm in shape, I could never do this. Let 276 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: me introduce him right now. My next guest is on 277 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: the show to talk about his new book, Transformed. He 278 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: takes us back to the stories from his childhood, from 279 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: living his Nigerian royalty, to losing his father early in life, 280 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: being strict financial of everything by the Nigerian government, to 281 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: travel in the unlikely plant from drug dealer to navy seal. 282 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversation. The author of Transform, 283 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: Remy at a leg k. Hey, Hey, good morning. Before 284 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: they take you fast of the end the show. Well, 285 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: first of all, I got your name right. That's a moment. 286 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: Let's go give me some little grand up all night 287 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: thinking about that name. Sir, doesn't trust I get it 288 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: all the time. I've heard it all kinds of ways. 289 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: Use right because I respect because my name is Roshane, 290 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: people get it wrong. And I think there's part of 291 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: the process of building your brand is people say your 292 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: name correctly when you're walking in the room, and sometimes 293 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: strangers come up and see your name. Then you know 294 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: you're on the right track. That's when you know you're 295 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: moving up to the world. Well, my friend, you have 296 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: an interesting world. Like I said before I brought you up, 297 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: it is about being a member of the Navy Seal? 298 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: Uh Will you always be a member? When you even 299 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: leave the military? Are you still considered a member of 300 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: the Navy Seal And our community wants to seal always 301 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: a seal um, so it kind of never leaves you. 302 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: It's always a part of you. And we we call 303 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: it the brotherhood, so it kind of never ends. Yeah, 304 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: And so a couple of a serious of watch You've 305 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: got two breaks, and I wanted just Lord to talk 306 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: about it because one of the last I want to 307 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: start out initially said how Jesus transform your life? You know, 308 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: so religious played a major role in you. I want 309 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: to start the interview out with that because faith is important. 310 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: Otherwise I wouldn't even bring that part of the conversation up. 311 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: So how did how did faith play such a strong 312 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: role in your life? And what part did it become 313 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: a significant player in your life? You know, early on 314 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: from from you know, from adolescence to high school to college. 315 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: Not college, yes, but you know, early twenties to mid twenties. 316 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: I had no faith background. I would fluctuate between eight 317 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: years of the Agnosticism growing up UH and the Bronx. 318 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: My mom would take me to a Baptist church and 319 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: I personally, as a young kid, I saw a lot 320 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: of hypocrisy. God, That's what really kept me away from it. 321 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: Fast forward, my brother, he had became a Christian UH 322 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: in his early twenties, and he would he would always 323 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: tell me, Remy, when you hit rock bottom, just remember 324 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: cryos of Jesus. You're trying everything enohing prior to Jesus. 325 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: And at twenty six, I kind of, you know, I 326 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: hit rock bottom. They were there, you know, going to 327 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: be telling my book, but you know I was struggling 328 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: with it. I had it all on outside. I was 329 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: a davy seal, a girlfriends all over the place. I 330 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: had money. I had a beautiful place in San Diego, California, 331 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: but on the inside, I just I was empty, and uh, 332 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: I was stattling with depression. I was battling went to 333 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: a bad break up, battling with guilt from decisions that 334 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: I made, and I just I just cried out. Like 335 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: my brother told me to. I said, let me try 336 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: this Jesus out it. And I did. And that's what 337 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: was the X factor for me. And that's what changed 338 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: my life to transformed me ultimately into into the man 339 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: I am today. And what type of man is that? Uh? Well, well, 340 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: one a man of a man of faith, a man 341 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: who puts Christ first. And uh. And everything I do 342 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: and what I mean by that in my decision making, um, 343 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: as it relates to to my businesses, and my decision 344 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: making as it relates to me being a husband and 345 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: and honoring my wife, and and being being a father 346 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: and honoring my kids and and leading by example. Uh, 347 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, and it's just just in everything that I do. 348 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: I'm on the phone with speaking to Remy the Lek. 349 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: His new book, Transformed, is the personal journey that he 350 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: took from the streets of the Bronx to become a 351 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: Navy seal, actor, entrepreneur, writer, husband and father. Now when 352 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: we when we talk about this journey in your book 353 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: transformed what was the purpose of writing that book? You know, 354 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of layers in that book and 355 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: actually you can like stayed on one part and I've 356 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: just been because the Navy Seal was a whole book. 357 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that the whole, the whole 358 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: Getting out of the Hood is a whole book. You know, 359 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: the educational factor there, the relationship with your wife, that's 360 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's so many different chapters, but you managed 361 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: to put it all in this book. Why well, you know, 362 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: for years, people who had heard my story, just just 363 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: the African part of my story going from royalty and 364 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: riches in Africa to being stripped of everything and and 365 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: then moving to the bo honks and being poor and 366 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: that's living in that street life. People who just heard 367 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: that part of my story would tell me whether you 368 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: need to write a book. Their story is inspiring and 369 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: can inspire people. And for you, as I said, no, 370 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that because being a naked seal, 371 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: there's a stigma attached the seals. You write books and 372 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: as you know, you kind of break the code, and 373 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: I never you know, I had a great reputation and 374 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: the seal teams that did seven and a half years 375 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: UM and the thirteen years overall in all of the military, 376 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to want to, you know, hurt 377 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: my my my reputation, and so I avoided that until 378 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: I went on to Today's show. Was I was in 379 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: the poultical Transformers and I wasn't it enough to be 380 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: part of the press tour, and I went on it today. 381 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: I went on a Today's Show and after one went backstage, 382 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: Captain to Giffert said to me, you know you could 383 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: get the story is just to inspiring with me. You 384 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: need to write a book. And I told her no, 385 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: and she and I told her why, and she said 386 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: that foolish. I know your heart. I know your your 387 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: heart would be to write a book in a way 388 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: to inspire pop instipation and people. And when she said 389 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: that to me, that's when a switch went off in 390 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: my head. And that's when I said, Okay, I need 391 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: to do this because I know it won't be about 392 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: me beating my chest and say hey look at me, 393 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm a Navy sealing This I know it would be 394 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: for me to inspire people to reach for their dreams, 395 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: reach for their goals despite the odds that they may 396 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: be fasting on the deficiencies that they may have as 397 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: it relates to their dreams. Now, you mentioned the movie 398 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: The Transformers last night. That was the movie played in 399 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: and you've you've, you've started to carve out an acting career. 400 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: Was that the goals or that's just one of the 401 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 1: many blessings that by having strong faith and being uh, 402 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: being purposely driven. I considered that type of personality I 403 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: took away from the book You're focused person. You know 404 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: you you plan, your your your You're a man of 405 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: plan and a man of action. Absolutely. You know. For me, 406 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't tasting. It wasn't part of my plan. If 407 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: I was actually grad spookinging my master's when I received 408 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: the phone call. My plan was to get my education 409 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: and going to full time consulting as a business consultant. 410 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: And I was, you know, writing papers in my phone 411 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: ring or the other end of the line was a 412 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: woman who worked with director Michael Baine. She asked me 413 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: what I'm doing the borrow and I said, I'm like paper. 414 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: She said, come down to the book. He said, I 415 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: gotta moue for you to be in. So that's kind 416 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: of how my my film and TV and slow that down. Now, 417 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: how did you get into a major movie? Going back 418 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: back then up there? You you missed some steps that 419 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: you ass and Burger key if my computed that at 420 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: the universities come to West Virginia and what happened? You 421 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: know this lady she Michael Day. He likes he likes 422 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: to use real Navy seals and some of his films, 423 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, there's not that many African Americans. 424 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: In fact, there's less per than one per cent of 425 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: the Special Operations Communities Act American. I was around the 426 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: fifty of Navy seal in the history of the Seal teams, 427 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: and his Seal Teams was creative nineteen sixty two. Um, 428 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: so Michael Day was looking for some diversity in the film. 429 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: He wanted a former Navy seal who was African Americans 430 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: to be a partner of the film. And I just 431 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: happen to be that and and and and you know 432 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: that's when one of the casting um women reached out 433 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: to me. And that's how I got into it. But 434 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: so what I'm hearing is that he is a man 435 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: who failed over and over again. Then he used those 436 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: lessons of failure to transform, that transformed him to be 437 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: the man he is today. That's a man who's who 438 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: was admitted flaws, which I always tell people, But you 439 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: don't admit a flaw, that's a that's a problem because 440 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: you're seeking perfection, which is impossible. So if you're seeking 441 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: every possibility, then guess what comes into your life frustration? 442 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: And if you're a frustrated person, guess what. Don't nobody 443 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: want to be around a frustrated person. Nobody want a 444 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: champion of frustrated person. So so what is your message? 445 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: What is your message for young people who may be 446 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: struggling out there today? Uh, you know, you know, don't 447 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: get caught up in this concept of everything should happen 448 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: right now. I want young people to realize that things 449 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: take time. As she said, I you went through seal 450 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: training twice. That sounds you know, me saying that may 451 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: not sound like a long time. But we're talking from 452 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: the time I started training to be a seal to 453 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: the time I finally graduated from steal training. We're talking 454 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and three to two thousand and seven. That's 455 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: four years of constant day in and day out glinding. 456 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: But you don't see that, you can see the end results. 457 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: I want young people to realize that you gotta put 458 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: in the work and it's not gonna happen overnight. You 459 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: got to show up every single day and that's how 460 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: you you achieve what you want to achieve and what 461 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: what is it that you want to achieve? Really now, 462 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean it changes the old time. Well, uh, well, 463 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: now you know I you know, I've got the book out, 464 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: so obviously I want that to be successful, which is 465 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: being very successful uh to uh you know, you know 466 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: now moving you know, I'm a writer producer now in Hollywood. 467 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: You know I've been. I'm in even from an answer 468 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 1: to a writer producer in Hollywood. Yeah. Yeah, man. I've 469 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 1: been talking with the major studio right now to option 470 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: of in my book and option a screenplay I wrote 471 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: and some other projects. So I'm gonna talk to kind 472 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: of set up an overall deal flash of our first 473 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: look deal with a major studio. I'm still taking other 474 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: offers that people want to throw me some offers. I'll 475 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: entertain them. That's that's Santell a day is uh, getting 476 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: that production company off the ground and just putting out 477 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: amazing inspirational stories and a lot of black stories as well. 478 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: You know, I'm writing a film now about one of 479 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: the first groups of African Americans to serve in special 480 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: operations and the story that that you know, it's hidden, 481 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: it's like a hidden figure story. But these are probably 482 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: one of the first groups of guys to serving Special Forces. 483 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: No one knows this story. So as a guy who 484 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: was in Special Forces and you know, I'm telling that 485 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: story now. So so that's that's what my next goal 486 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: in life is getting these amazing stories out um via 487 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: film and TV. Well, I would just saying this, first 488 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: of all, you unique, okay, you know and that kid 489 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: that and you're special because of the fact that you've 490 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: you you crossed the uncharted waters when you started with 491 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: a number of African American men who and we look 492 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: a him. Man, you gotta tell this story who started 493 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: because we know there's racism at every level and when 494 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: you when you when you're the first day, when you 495 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: first did, it's worse because guess what, they don't want 496 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: anybody to break cold break, to break the new members 497 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: of the club and I'm not saying anything, and that's 498 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: just life that happens in any environment, you know, all right, 499 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: and so, but I just want to let you know 500 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I know we kept hitting and missing and 501 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: coming on the show and getting the time right, and 502 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I wanted to show you respect and say 503 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: I really want to jeel my show. I'm glad we 504 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: was able to schedule list. And I read your book 505 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: and I'm inspired by your book, and I just wanted 506 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: anybody who reads this book Transformed to just value what 507 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: he did and used the same values and failures and 508 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: successes and let you know that you can do it too. 509 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on my show, man, Thank you 510 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: for having me on the show. I appreciate you, my brother, 511 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: all right. As I told earlier, if my mail mailing 512 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: lists went out today, it goes out to fans, and uh, 513 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: you can click the buy button in that newsletter and 514 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: you can buy his book Transform. The kids are asking 515 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: what to get you for Father's Day. Your son suggested 516 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: a World's Greatest Dad T shirt and the girl's going 517 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: with a pony pony sweet. Seriously, what can the kids 518 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: get you? You know what I'd really love that baseball 519 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: card collection, your mom threw out. No, well, yeah, but 520 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: you know how I've been working late and traveling more. Yeah, well, 521 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: I worry about you guys. And I was reading reviews 522 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: for Blink security cameras. People love these things. You can 523 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 1: watch almost every angle of your house with these cameras, 524 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: indoors and outdoors. Their motion activated, so when it detects something, 525 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: I'll get an alert to my Blink smartphone app with 526 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: the video of what it spotted. Cool. So you're going 527 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 1: Blink cameras over a pony, No bonies, no t shirts. 528 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: Blink indoor cameras are twenty percent off now through Father's 529 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: Day June six. Home security just got easier. Visit Blink 530 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: for tech dot com slash Secure Blink Protected dot Com 531 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: slash Secure also available on Amazon added Best Buy. Hey, 532 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: this is Tasha Evans and I'd love to eat a 533 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: great restaurant. And more than that, I love great desserts. 534 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: So does Rashan McDonald. Check out his new website that's www. 535 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald dot com. Let me tell you about the 536 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: host of money Making Conversations, Rashaan McDonald. He's a social 537 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: media influencer of his seven hundred thousand plus social media 538 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: followers are female. He's a two time Emmy Award winner, 539 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: three time n double a CP Image Award winner, sitcom writer, 540 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: stand up comic, former IBM executive, and has a degree 541 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: in mathematics. More importantly, Rashan McDonald will use his business 542 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: and celebrity relationships to empower small businesses with information to succeed. 543 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: My next guest because she's on the phone and this 544 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: West Coast time. Over the course of the past year 545 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: hasn't undergone a series of major transitions. She departed ESPN 546 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: after nearly twelve years and now is a senior staff 547 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: writer at The Atlantic. Started large a large freeway media 548 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: and got engaged to the love of her life. We 549 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: gotta talk about that because I sold pictures on social 550 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: media because I followed her, you know, and please welcome 551 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: to money making conversation, Emmy Award winning journalists and a 552 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: huge social media influencer. Jamil Hill. Yeah, what an introduction. Well, 553 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: when I'm a fan, you do that when you're a fan, 554 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: and then you know, I like to say, everybody not 555 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: getting oversha McDonald's I go oh Tuesday, I said that, 556 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: can I get Jamil Hell I've been a and of 557 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: yours for a long time. You mean you don't know 558 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: that you know, you don't know. I did not know that, 559 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: but that that definitely is very humbling. So I really 560 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: appreciate it. So thank you because your talents, you have 561 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: a point of view, and that that's what that's what 562 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: inspires my relationship with you, because of the fact from 563 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: a from a fault, because this is the first time 564 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: we have spoken, and what drives that point of view 565 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: to say, you have an opinion and you want to 566 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: let other people understand where you stand. Is that important 567 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: to you? Well, it is important. Um, of course, some 568 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: of this depends on what it is you plan to say, 569 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: and I think it's something that just evolves over time. 570 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: I don't think as soon as you come out the 571 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: womb you automatically have an opinion. Your opinion is gained 572 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: through life experience, through UM adversity, UM challenges, UM and 573 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: even successes. And so that's kind of where my opinion 574 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: has always kind of come to fruition. And I think 575 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: it's you know, a lot of it is determined based 576 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: off how you've lived and where you home. I mean 577 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: from the city of betrayed it's a very gritty, tough city. 578 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: And so I think a lot of the toughness and 579 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: the grit and the determination that I have has been 580 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: formed based off where I grew up and how I 581 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: grew up, and so all of that informs my perspective, 582 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: and I think it's important to share it just because 583 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: there are other people who come from backgrounds that they 584 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: can relate to. Um, you know when they look at yours. 585 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: And so sometimes when you come from a certain background, 586 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: you feel as if you shouldn't be heard or don't 587 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: deserve to be heard. And so I'd like to think, um, 588 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: some example that you know, everybody deserves to be heard. 589 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: That it's only it's not a certain type of person 590 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: who has a certain comes from a certain place. I 591 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: don't those people who are to have an opinion and 592 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: make their mark in this world. Yeah, to be avitability, 593 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: to be able to right, to be able to articulate, 594 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: and being a female in a male dominated business now 595 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: being a ESPN for twoever years, I mean you have 596 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: to start in in an environment that mail dominated, even 597 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: email dominated today. So what is it important that you 598 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: find your voice? That was in sports? Now you find 599 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: your voice? And I feel in a much more universal 600 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: platform because you talk about politics, start about fashion, you 601 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: talk about entertainment, you talk about sports. Even though you 602 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: cut your teeth on that, what is what is the 603 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: voice you're trying to uh, I guess articulate on the 604 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: daily basis on your podcast. Well, one thing I'm really 605 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: grateful about is when I got to ESPN in November 606 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: two thousand and six. It was after I had already 607 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: been a sports journalist for almost a decade. So I 608 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: came in there with a strong sense of who I was, um, 609 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: the type of content I wanted to produce, and what 610 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: I was about. And so I went there kind of 611 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: at a at a perfect age. And once I was there, 612 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: I was able to take all the things that I 613 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: learned and um, you know, learn the value of how 614 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: to distribute that content on different platforms. You know, I 615 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: came in to ESPN, it's just to print newspaper report game. 616 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: When I left, my skill set was just so much 617 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: different because even though you know what I was saying 618 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: and who I was, that hadn't really changed. But by 619 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: the time I left, I had been a sports inner anchor, 620 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: I've had a podcast already, um, had done digital stuff, 621 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, doing daily television, been a writer on a 622 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: on a digital platform, so I took all of that 623 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: once I left. Now I'm in a new iteration in 624 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: my career and so that's why I'm able to use 625 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: my content in different ways. I'm a writer for The 626 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: Atlantic Publication that I've always loved and had read for 627 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: many years before i started writing for him. Doing the 628 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: podcast on Spotify. I've already had a podcast at USP 629 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: and soup bringing that experience there and like would have 630 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, I had an idea in a sense of 631 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: the type of podcast I wanted to do going into it, 632 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: and so um, a lot of it is just me 633 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: kind of developing into a utility, you know, player to 634 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: use a sp its term. And I tell young people 635 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: all the time, the method which we deliver things will 636 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: always change. The technology is always going to change. But 637 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: that's why you have to have a foundation of understanding 638 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: what your core skills are. If you want to be 639 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: a journalist, you have to number one, be curious and 640 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: two you have to know how to report. Those two 641 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: things will not change. It doesn't matter if you're getting 642 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: your message out, um, you know, be a bull be 643 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: a bullhorn, or if you're doing it on a platform 644 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: like you have. So uh, it just is a matter 645 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: of to me adaptation. And so now with my podcast, 646 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: what I wanted to do is just down with interesting people, um, 647 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: people who have something to say, compelling people. And I 648 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: always say I always say to people that, like everybody 649 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: who's on my podcast are not people that I have 650 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: necessarily agree with. Some people I think that's what makes 651 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 1: it interesting. Um, they just have to have something to say. 652 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: And UM, my only rule that I ever had for 653 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: it is that I don't capitulate the stupid. So, um, 654 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: there's one thing to have a different opinion, there's the 655 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: one thing, and another thing to have a stupid, unimportant opinion. 656 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: So I wanted to sit down with people, hear what 657 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: they have to say, get their backstory, and figure out 658 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: what made them them. Well that's interesting because um when 659 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: I when I hear you and when I watched you 660 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: on ESPN, I always got there the feeling you was creative. 661 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: You know, you use a creative person especialized to watch 662 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: the promos when you're in Michael Hope, we're hosting What's 663 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: and they were very entertainment, they were very organic to 664 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: your personality. So now when I look at the you know, 665 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: it's the the Atlantic magazine, Atlantic magazine that you're not 666 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: covering coverage politics, culture, technology, health and more and podcast videos, 667 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: and that's a lot. And I think that you're you're 668 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: you're following your you're in an area now and your 669 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: personality and your career where guess what, all the tentacles 670 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: can start being tapped. But the amazing thing about when 671 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: you when you talk to a person like Jamil Hill 672 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: and you look at the brand that she's developing and 673 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: the career that she's had, it's really really allows you 674 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: to be this unique situation. So who who are? What 675 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 1: is your top five? Let's go go to the heart 676 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: of this conversation. I don't really care what comments said, 677 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody say. Who is your top five? 678 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: So we get this all. We're gonna put this on 679 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: my social media, Jamil top five? M what do you say? No? No, 680 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: now you put you Now you're putting like a little 681 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: little woman, look uh saying by qualified. There you go 682 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: see she's a writer. I just had a way. She 683 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: gonna throw the word out for me. She could be 684 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: a game show up. Qualified. Yes, thank you, Jamil so 685 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: my top five, and I emphasized my, not yours. So 686 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: because people when you say top five, the like what 687 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: about says if it was about such, such, such and 688 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: such would be it's not top five, right right right right, 689 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: right right right, it's not jay Z Big and black thought. Okay, 690 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: So so Tupac ain't nowhere. No, it's not. Tupac ain't nowhere. 691 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: Party politics, sex, Tupac ain't nowhere. See. See that's how 692 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: that's how you get in the fights on the corner. Really, Hey, 693 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: they can ask me, debate me whatever if we if 694 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: you asked me to insulted me on Spotify on bothered 695 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: on Spotify by Spotify, that's her show. So you call 696 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: her get that point of view. But she allows us 697 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: to have a person out. Now it's a couple of 698 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: guests on this show that that. When I saw the list, 699 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: I went Cat Williams and then I saw Stacy Abrams. 700 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: That's an extreme as a African American woman who wore 701 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: ran for almost became the next governor, but lost to 702 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: Brian Kemp in his last goodmatorial election. Okay, so how 703 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: do you how do you have a conversation between Cat 704 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 1: will you They didn't have another conversation with Stacy Abrams 705 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: well as I said that, you know, the number one 706 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,439 Speaker 1: thing you have to do is is be interesting. That's 707 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: so that's what attracts me to having certain people on. 708 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: And this is part of my twenty one years experienced 709 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: as a journalist. I've interviewed all manner of people. I know, 710 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: mostly I've been primarily in sports, but I've interviewed all 711 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: manner of athletes, from high school athletes UM to Lebron 712 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: James to a number of different people, all with different stories, 713 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: from different backgrounds, a different collage of people. And it's 714 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: no different when you step outside of sports. Obviously, Stacy Abrams, 715 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: she's the first black woman UH to be to be 716 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: the gym, to be a nominee for governor, to win 717 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: her party's nominee for governor. UM. You know, there's a 718 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: lot of people who followed the news though that there 719 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: was a lot of over suppression going to Georgia, a 720 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: lot of murkey circumstances around her laws and UM, she 721 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: has a testimony and you want to find out that 722 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: somebody who suffers that kind of setback, how do they 723 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: go on from there? And her career in life was 724 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: like an interesting thing about her and maybe some people 725 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,919 Speaker 1: can know this is that she's actually written I think, 726 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: uh six um kind of romance novels. So she's a 727 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: novelist and she writes under assumed him and I thought 728 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: that was, you know, very interesting and cast. He's got 729 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: a lot of layers to him, and that's one of 730 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: the most interesting people that I've ever talked to. Uh. 731 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: You know, he left home when he was thirteen, and 732 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: he left because he just wanted to leave. And as 733 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: he told me on my podcast, he saw that Jesus 734 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: said he was a man at thirty three, and so 735 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: he thought he was a man that could leave. So um. 736 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's just these people who I 737 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: think have very interesting stories um that happened maybe been 738 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: put out there in the way that that I you know, 739 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: I have been able to put them out there, especially 740 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: because the podcast. The great thing about it and you 741 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: know this, you know with your show here, it's an 742 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: infinite environment and you're talking to one person and it's 743 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: just you two, and I think that allows people to really, 744 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, really open up. I have one dropping today 745 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: with Marcellis Bennett Um, the former NFL player formers, super 746 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: Bowl champion and Marcellis bed Is. He is crazy, but 747 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: he's crazy smart. He's a genius. I mean, he's got 748 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: a great book out direct that young black boys who 749 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: need to hear that they can be something other than 750 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: entertainers and athletes. And so he just puts the profile 751 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: of the type of person that I think people would 752 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: really enjoy hearing from. Awesome speaking to you, Uh, Jamil Hill. 753 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: He has a new Spot five podcast called Jabel hill 754 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 1: Is Unbothered with drops new episodes every Monday and Thursday 755 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: at six pm Easter Standard time. You know it's amazing. 756 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: She's too too. Co hosts on the show, right, I 757 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: do um uh. In fact, as soon as we get 758 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: up the phone, I'm gonna get ready and go in 759 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 1: and we're gonna take a podcast that will air next week. 760 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: Michael Arsenal and Cole Wildly and for sports fans, Cold 761 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: Wildly fathers Ralph Wildly, who was definitely a big influence 762 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: on my career. He's the first black person I saw 763 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: on the sports reporters. And Michael Arsenal, who the New 764 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: York Times step selling author who has a great book 765 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: I was called I Can't Date Jesus. Well, my my, my, 766 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: my friend. I'm I call you my friend because I've 767 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: been following you and everything. I know you. I know 768 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: you've been engaged. I saw your picture. I was happy 769 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: for you. You know you have a balanced life now. 770 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: But more importantly, it's to me. I'm telling you, I 771 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: got to do the top five on my social media. 772 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna share her. Okay, and let's let the world know. 773 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do Rashawn's top five. We're gonna down. Okay, 774 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm prepared to defend my top five, So get about it, Okay, 775 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: say I love her. She's one of the people may 776 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: you can do get out, you know, verbally in a 777 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 1: in a in a public place and she go whatever, whatever, dude, 778 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: ain't scared of you. You know, I love her. I 779 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 1: love her again. She's amazing. Um, I got on my 780 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: show for the first time. I hope she comes back. 781 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: An amazing podcast. Ja mill Hill is Unbothered on Spotify. 782 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: It's a Spotify podcast. She dropped new episodes every Monday 783 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 1: and Thursday six pm. Thank you for coming to my show. 784 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you and know that I have mad 785 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: love for you. Okay, all right, well, thank you. I 786 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 1: appreciate you having me and then love. Keep winning, y'all, 787 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: keep winning. The kids are asking what to get you 788 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: for Father's Day. Your son suggested a World's Greatest Dad 789 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: T shirt, and the girl's going with a pony pony. Sweet. Seriously, 790 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 1: what can the kids get you? You know what? I 791 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: really love that baseball card collection. Your mom threw out, Well, yeah, 792 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: but you know how I've been working late and traveling more. Yeah, well, 793 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: I worry about you, guys. And I was reading reviews 794 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: for Blink security cameras. People love these things. You can 795 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: watch almost every angle of your house with these cameras, 796 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: indoors and outdoors. Their motion activated, so when it detects something, 797 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: I'll get an alert to my Blink smartphone app with 798 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: the video of what it spotted. Cool. So you're going 799 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: Blink cameras over a pony, No bonies, no T shirts. 800 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: Blink indoor cameras are off now through Fathers Day June six. 801 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: Home security just got easier. Visit blink protect dot com 802 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: slash Secure. Blink protect dot Com slash Secure also available 803 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: on Amazon added Best Buy. Roshan McDonald here. I'm hyped. 804 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 1: Last week I was on fire. This week, I'm on 805 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm smotoring, IM smotoring this week. You know, I'm building 806 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: back up to being on fire. I'm smotor. You can 807 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: see smoke around me. I think that's better than being 808 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: on fire, because if people just see smoke around you, 809 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: they at least come over and find out what's going on. 810 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: People see fire, they're gonna call those police. They definitely 811 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: will come over and hugging aintybody hugging nobody on fire. 812 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: I can tell you right now, can find a water 813 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: holes or a good blanket. That's what they're gonna do. 814 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,280 Speaker 1: What they see on fire, They're definitely gonna tell somebody 815 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: else that you don't fire before they come over to you. 816 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: It might even videotape. It might be mean as viral 817 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 1: video on social media nowadays, the way I see things 818 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 1: going down. My next guest uh mission is to help women. 819 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: I have six sisters, so I can truly understand where 820 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: she's coming from, become financially free by teaching them strategies 821 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: on how to create a generation, how to create generational 822 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: wealth and monetize the individual gifts and talents, and a 823 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: financially successful online business. She's committed to helping others build 824 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: wealth by teaching impactful insights and actionable steps so her 825 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 1: clients can experience significant shifts as they tap into their 826 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: personal strength to build their own business. Please work with 827 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation a perfect guest for my show and 828 00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: for my listeners to enjoy. Don Yelle winning Ham, Good morning, 829 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: How are you doing there? And what city are you 830 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 1: calling from? I'm actually calling them from Houston this morning. Okay, 831 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,240 Speaker 1: that's my hometown. Now, Now what are you doing in Houston, Texas? 832 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: Now what are you doing in Houston taking? How long 833 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: are you gonna be there? Because we need to talk 834 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: about places to go eat? I'm gonna be here for 835 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: a while. I actually live here now Okay, yeah, that's 836 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 1: that's my one of my favorite conversations. Places that don't eat. Okay, cool. 837 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: Now I have a home still in Houston, so this 838 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 1: is good. So we can connect the dots here along 839 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: the line. So how long have you been in Houston? 840 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: And we're gonna get to the whole conversation. I kind 841 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: of like, you know, we have two breaks. I like 842 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: my fans to get to know the individuals who I'm 843 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 1: talking to, and we create relationship. So the information doesn't 844 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 1: feel forced. It feels like it's coming from a place 845 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: that's authentic. So when did you move to Houston. I've 846 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: been in Houston for twenty plus years now and we've 847 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: never met. So now, you know what. I spent my 848 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: time in corporate America right right, so recently I didn't 849 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,399 Speaker 1: know anybody outside of the corporate sector. What I would 850 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: tell you this, I've been out of Houston. You know, 851 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: I still have a home there. I have home over 852 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: there in a spring branch across the Memorial or a 853 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: Memorial area. I have a home over there, and so 854 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: that's where I worked. Okay, cool? See we well, we're 855 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: getting too close now, We're getting really close. And so 856 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: so when I when I look at success, tell me 857 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: your top three foodie places in Houston. I'm gonna find out. 858 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: Chief real here, I'm find out. I'm fine if we're 859 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: gonna you know, top three, miss winning Ham. My top 860 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: three is Mickey Soul Food Cafe that circu Leighood. What 861 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:46,479 Speaker 1: number three is? Wow? Number three is tight people ahead 862 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: and say food. See two of those places I've never 863 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: been to Esther Soul Food and what's a Mickey's. Okay, 864 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta get that information from you because 865 00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: I love to eat. And what I do is I 866 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: have to thing. I have this format on my website 867 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: and social media called Rushawn's Eats, and these are the 868 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 1: favorite places I go and I recommend that just you know, 869 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: I don't you know there there are no fees. I 870 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,280 Speaker 1: just promote and say, hey, go check out this restaurant 871 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: and to go to just a favorite place in Houston. 872 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 1: So there was are two places that I need to 873 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,240 Speaker 1: know about that you told me about and in Houston. 874 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: And I am a native Houston. I was boring to Houston, 875 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: with the high school in Houston, with the college in Houston. 876 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: I got married in Houston. I still live in Houston 877 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 1: and also live in Atlanta, Georgia. Now you're on my show, 878 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: and it's called something called the Leading America's Leading Quit 879 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: Coach q U I T coach. What is that? So 880 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,720 Speaker 1: a quick coach is somebody that helps you transition because 881 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: you don't just quit your job, because you can't just 882 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: quit your bills, right right, So it's a process to 883 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,360 Speaker 1: be able to take your marketable skills from whatever you do, 884 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: whatever you know how to do, and turn that into 885 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 1: something that you can sell in the world at large. 886 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,879 Speaker 1: To be able to have the freedom to quit your job. 887 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: Now we said a freedom to quit your job, what 888 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 1: does that mean. I'm just just trying to just spell 889 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: it out the fruit. Like I said, I'm because I 890 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: might have an example of myself quitting the job, and 891 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you how how it affected me. And 892 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: then I found myself having to go back to work. 893 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: So and that's why the transition is so important. With Shawn, 894 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: I was a vice president and JP Morgan Chase. I 895 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: left Chase a day before my sixteenth year anniversary. I 896 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: spent four years before I left Chase building my income 897 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: up so that it matched my check so that when 898 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: I left, I didn't have to ever go back. And 899 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,399 Speaker 1: that's the importance of the transition. You can't step out 900 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: people say, oh, I'm gonna step out on face. No, 901 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna step out on broke I love already. I 902 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 1: get so mad when I hear that we're stepping out 903 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: on faith. Yeah, we need to step out on money, right, 904 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: And so when you step out with a plan that's 905 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: already operational that you don't have to worry about going back, 906 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 1: you can take your additional time freedom and scale your 907 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: business up from where you are, because it's really interesting. 908 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: I always tell people about wealth to talk about finances, 909 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: And one thing I learned is that when I when 910 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: I made a transition of my life to walk away 911 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 1: from a financial successful partnership, I thought I would not 912 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: work again. But then what I didn't realize is that 913 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 1: I liked the lifestyle that I was in. So I 914 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 1: was stopping. I was still trying to when no income coming, 915 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: like it was, I was still doing what I was doing. 916 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: First class tickets, limo service, you know, Taylor shoes, Taylor clothes. 917 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 1: That realized, you know, something happen when you're in a 918 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,760 Speaker 1: big house. The taxes don't change, the electricity bill don't change, 919 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 1: the Verizon bill don't change. Then that's when people forget 920 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: when they when they say IM gonna walk away, well 921 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 1: you're gonna walk away. There certain things you can't walk 922 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: away from if you're not downsizing. M I had no 923 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: plans on downside. And so guess what the quick coach 924 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: I should have called her first, because you said, now, 925 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 1: let me let me use let me use me use me. 926 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: As an example, Okay, here's a guy you know successful. 927 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 1: I said, I'm out. I'm gonna spend time with my family. 928 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm relaxed. I got two houses. Wasn't selling no house, 929 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: wasn't selling no car. What mistakes were I was was 930 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: I making or was I making any mistakes? And then 931 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: had hadn't playing on making it working for anybody ever Again, 932 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: So the biggest mistake people make with SWAN is that 933 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: they don't monetize what's in their hands. We do a lot, 934 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 1: but we don't expect revenue in return. See, I never 935 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: realized my five hustle could have freed me a long 936 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 1: time ago, had I've been as serious about my side 937 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,760 Speaker 1: hustle as I was about my job. People put eight, nine, 938 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 1: ten hours a day into their jobs, but they don't 939 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 1: put that level of time into their business. And so 940 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 1: what happens is your business always ends up on the 941 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: losing end. And besides that, we don't know how to 942 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 1: monetize everything we do, every bit of its science, we 943 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:32,479 Speaker 1: give out, every bit of support we give one sure 944 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: of business that has to be monthetized. Walmart is not 945 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 1: handing out free bags to the grocery just because. And 946 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: so when we don't monetize our gifts and talents, we 947 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 1: end up working for somebody who will Well, it's all right. 948 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,320 Speaker 1: First of all, it's all right to work for somebody, 949 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: but let me go. Don't get that cool. But writing 950 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 1: the book, myself and I talked about that you have 951 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: before they all weak people, and you have the seventy 952 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 1: all weak people. These are two different people before they 953 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: all weak people. There's a plan of success. You need 954 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,800 Speaker 1: to understand how you can be successful within that window. 955 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 1: The people who want more than forty hours, that's a 956 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 1: different breed of people. That's that's what I'm talking on 957 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: the phone right now. She's a forty hour week person 958 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,240 Speaker 1: and she's letting you know that, which I totally agree. 959 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: If you apply the same eight hours of work that 960 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 1: you're doing in a forty hour week to your dream, 961 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: really apply those same hours, then you can be successful 962 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: outside of that forty hour week. But the problem is 963 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 1: people don't have to discipline. Isn't that the difference maker? 964 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,320 Speaker 1: You know? I think you know. The funny part is 965 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: they have the discipline for a job. You can't keep 966 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 1: a job that days if you're not discipline. You gotta 967 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: come to work here, come to work one time. So 968 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 1: I find it funny that you would have that discipline 969 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 1: for someone else and not have that discipline for your drinks. 970 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,760 Speaker 1: And I think part of that is a believability factor. 971 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: You don't really believe you can get rid of telling 972 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 1: your drink because we've been taught. You get rich out 973 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: a job and you're really doubtful. It's not easy for anybody. 974 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 1: Everybody came from somewhere. I came from nowhere, so I 975 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: can do what you can do it too. But people 976 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 1: just they struggle with believing in their own abundance. They 977 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: struggle with believing in their own words. They struggle with 978 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: just knowing that there are strategies that can get you 979 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: where you want to live. You don't want to just 980 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 1: sit on the outside and watch everybody else play the game. 981 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 1: You can play too. But they do, they but they 982 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: but they will, they want they will sit on their 983 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 1: side because fear drives them. So I think a major 984 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 1: part of your appreciation is always overcoming the fear because 985 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,359 Speaker 1: you know, like like when I left IBM, there was fear. 986 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to be a comedian, but there 987 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: was doubt either because you can see you couldn't see 988 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: a regular jobs. Let you know, health benefit's there, you 989 00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 1: know if you come to word, you act right, you 990 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 1: have a job next week. That's that's the JO theory. 991 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,359 Speaker 1: When you work a normal job, when you're going out 992 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 1: there on even if it's a good plan, there is fear. 993 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: How do you get them to overcome fear? You know, 994 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 1: we're trying one of the things I tell myself. Let 995 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 1: me start with me, because I don't care where you 996 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,240 Speaker 1: go to. Uh. I love Charlemagne's book where he talked 997 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: about you know the higher you kids. You still struggle 998 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: with that whole me, SI me things right. The ner 999 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 1: me is still talking to you crazy, and so I 1000 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: tell them you have to prioritize your fear. So what 1001 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: are you more afraid of with me? I'm more afraid 1002 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 1: of failure and more afraid of being broke than I 1003 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: am of what's on the other side. 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