1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: It's that time time, time, time, luck and load. So 2 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: Michael Very Show is on the air. Got an email 3 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: from a fellow last week and then Ryan here's a 4 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: frequent emailer. I think he's an inspiring comedian because he 5 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: has a day job, but he clearly works at structuring 6 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: jokes in how he writes to me and often leaves 7 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: me laughing out loud. Pretty good. But this was a 8 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: serious note, and the serious note was that a house 9 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: had burned in his neighborhood and on the spot they 10 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: started to GoFundMe and they had raised I don't know, 11 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: several thousand dollars within within an hour for the residence. 12 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: And he's kept me updated and I think as of 13 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: yesterday it was twenty thousand dollars to get the people 14 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: back on their feet. It's just kind of one of 15 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: those uplifting stories that you need to hear more of 16 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: because there's so much good being done that doesn't get reported, 17 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: doesn't get heard about, and I think it's important for 18 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: us to hear these things. It gives us strength to 19 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: carry on. It makes us better people, it makes us happy, 20 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: it's good to smile, it's good to be makes us 21 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: better husbands and wives and sons and daughters and bosses 22 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: and parents and on and on on. So I gotta 23 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: I get an email every day from David Maulsby at 24 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Camp Hope of who today's Camp Hope hero is, and 25 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: it's somebody who did something yesterday or the day before 26 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: for Camp Hope, and sometimes it's writing a big check. 27 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: He told me that the budget is five hundred thousand 28 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: under the Today's the last day of the fiscal year, 29 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: as it will be for a number of you on 30 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: a September thirty fiscal year. And I said, do we 31 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: meet our number? And he said, no, we're five hundred 32 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: thousand short. But don't worry because my immediate answer is 33 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: always cut expenses, cut expenses, cut expenses. But I've also 34 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: in the past, you know you will remember Mac and 35 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: I raised a million bucks on the spot in one 36 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: morning when Camp Hope was in financial peril after everything 37 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: that happened with COVID. One of the things that doesn't 38 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: get discussed is how charities were hit so hard by COVID. 39 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: Giving philanthropy went way down after that. So he said, 40 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: don't worry, Michael, We'll get back on pace and we're 41 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: going to be fine. And we'll make the cuts we 42 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: need to and we'll get there. But every day he 43 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: sends me something, whether it's a financial donation somebody, a 44 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: lot of things weather for you know, they do the 45 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: their annual fundraise. It does us. For ten years now, 46 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: they've raised over a million dollars to weather Ford employees 47 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: for Camp Hope. It's incredible veterans helping veterans survive and 48 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: thrive because twenty two veterans a day committing suicide is 49 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: something we can do something about immediately in our own community. 50 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: And people come from all over the country to come 51 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 1: to Pope right here in Houston and this facility. That's 52 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: something to be proud of. So he sent me a 53 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: message that there's a group called Young Men's Service League 54 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: the Oaks, that's the location, and they were out and 55 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: his young kids, Hispanic, black, white. Look they look very young. 56 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I say very young, yet very young. To me, 57 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: they looked I don't know, twelve thirteen, fourteen, But I'm 58 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: at an age where I can't tell. I can't tell 59 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: how old people are. And they were doing projects there 60 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: and that you know how that touched the veterans. It's 61 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: these young people were coming and supporting them and showing 62 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: love to them. And that's not lost. You know, you're 63 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: in the program for six months and it's a long haul. 64 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: You were suicidal when you walked in the door. You 65 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: need something to make you to lift your spirits. And 66 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: so the woman who was leading the charge is a 67 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: woman named Shanna Quinn. I assumed she worked for Young 68 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: Men's Service League, that was her job. Turns out I 69 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: think that's her volunteer work. I asked her to come 70 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: on and share about this organization because it looks like 71 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: they're doing some pretty cool stuff. 72 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: Shanna, Hi, good morning. 73 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: What is your role with the Young Men's Service League? 74 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: My role for this year is Ultimate Gift Chair And 75 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: so what does that? 76 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 77 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: So? The Young Men's Service League is a national organization 78 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: with local chapters. So our chapter, the Oaks is based 79 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: in like South Montgomery County. So most of our kids 80 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 2: go to Grand Oaks High School, Oak Ridge High School, 81 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: and some private schools you know here and there dotted in. 82 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 2: But we are high school aged young men and moms 83 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 2: and their moms and we do service together. That's the premise. 84 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: And so our chapter is only three years old. This 85 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: is our third year as a chapter. The first year, 86 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: I was on the founding board as VP Philanthropy, so 87 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: I was tasked with partnering with philanthropies in our community 88 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: that needed service. We're not a fundraising group, We're only 89 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: a service group, so we just go out and help 90 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 2: help these organizations where they need it. And I feel 91 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: like we've done a good job of building strong partnerships. 92 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: And one of the fellas that I met when I 93 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: was procuring these philanthropies for our chapter to serve, one 94 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: of the philanthropies was Abundon Harvest and at that time 95 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: I met the guy who was the development guy there, 96 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: and his name was Chris Fahey and he was a 97 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: graduate of Camp Hope, so he, you know, also shared 98 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: with me about Camp Hope and it just kind of, 99 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 2: you know how things go, like, oh and then that happened, 100 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 2: and then that happened, and that's how I learned about 101 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: Camp Hope, went out there how to tour, met Spencer 102 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: and I said, okay, how can we get involved here? 103 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: You know? And then we had this Ultimate Gift Project, 104 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: which is basically a very large scale project that the 105 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: entire chapter serves on the same thing. So you're talking 106 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: four hundred man hours, right, because we have about two 107 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: hundred members and everybody has to serve a minimum of 108 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: two hours, and so it has to be a large 109 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: scale project. And I've been out to Camp Hope and 110 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: I told Spencer, I said, do you have a wish 111 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: list of things that you'd like to be done around here? 112 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: I know, like writing checks. But we're not a writing 113 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: checks group, right, We're a let's do stuff group. And 114 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: he said, well, yeah, we do have a wish list. 115 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: And he sends me the wish list and I looked 116 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: it over and I said, okay, we'll do those things. 117 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: He said, wait things, I said all of them. He 118 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: was like, okay, let's blow your role there, babe. You know. 119 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: I love this story so much. Hold on just a moment. 120 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: The organization is called Young Men's Service League at the 121 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: location is The Oaks. Her name is Shanna Quinn. With 122 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: her comment maybe audibly laugh when I tell a joke 123 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: like that, So I know you thought it was funny. 124 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: Michael Berry, Oh no, I won't do that. 125 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: It's too much a moment. She won't go that far. 126 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: That was so funny. You know who wasn't who said 127 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: whether you think you can or you can't. You're right. 128 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: So much of life is attitude and what attitude you choose. 129 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: I'm amazing. I'm amazed how often I will say to people, 130 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, hey, you and I have talked twenty times 131 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: in last year, and all twenty times you're really wound 132 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: up about something, and that person will say, as if 133 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: they have no control over it, just fell from sky. Well, yeah, 134 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: because is it right? No, No, no, you're choosing that. Well, 135 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk was assassinated. They're attacking Trump, the Muslims are 136 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: doing this, or the legals are doing this, or this 137 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: group is doing this. And I say, yes, there are 138 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: things with which you disagree, but there has to be 139 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: balance in your life. Find some happiness. Go find it. 140 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: It's out there. You got to go find it. It 141 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: doesn't come knocking on your door. It doesn't say hey, 142 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: I'm happiness, Go find it. That's what I love about 143 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: this story, about this organization, about what this woman is doing, 144 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: about the effect that it had at Camp Hope. Shanna Quinn, 145 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: what is your day job? Did I see you work 146 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: for title company? 147 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: I do? I sell title insurance. 148 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: For you are the first You are the first title 149 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: agent I have ever known to say it in those terms. 150 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: I had a real estate company in the late nineties, 151 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: and there was always a really cute girl who worked 152 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: for the title company who would come pick up your back. 153 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: This was this was back when the title companies could 154 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: bring you gift cards, they could take you to lunch, 155 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: they could do something. I think now you're limited, like 156 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: a pen or something. 157 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: We can still go have lunch, but yeah, if you 158 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: can't TDI. You know they have their hands in it. It's regulated, 159 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: very heavily regulated by TDI. 160 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: So well, I don't know how long you've been in 161 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: the business, but I'm telling you, in the late nineties, 162 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: when a title when a title agent would come to 163 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: the door, it was the one person who would come 164 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: who was selling something that you would be happy to back. 165 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: Then I was just happy to get a free lunch, 166 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: but you would be happy they were there because they 167 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: would come bearing gifts. And then all of a sudden, boom, 168 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: yeah changed. 169 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like the what I have. I had 170 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: a friend who was a drug rep in the early 171 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 2: two thousands, and boy they had a good time too. Well, 172 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: yeah things are different now. Well, so back to why 173 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: I myself, I liked what you were saying when you 174 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: were kind of bringing the show back about you know, yes, 175 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: there's bad things happening all around you. You don't have 176 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: control over any of that. But the only thing you 177 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: can control is how you show up, how you respond, 178 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: how your attitude is about it. Right. So, I think 179 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: if you shut down that noise of what's happening in 180 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: the world around you and you get out there and 181 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: start looking, you know, it doesn't take long to find 182 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: somebody that needs a little bit of help, right, So 183 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: just get to service. And I think that's where you 184 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: kind of start to feel closest to God too, is 185 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: when you're in service of others. 186 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: It sounded like in your description of young Men's Service 187 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: League that these are fatherless homes. Is that right, like us. 188 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: With our kids? 189 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I mean the young men who are 190 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: part of this group, it sounds like they do not 191 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: have a father in the home. 192 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: No incorrect, No, no, no, It's just that we, like 193 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: the moms and sons in the family, are going and 194 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: serving together. But it has nothing to do with not 195 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: dad's okay, all right, yeah, I would say actually, I 196 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: would say, actually the opposite might be more true. For 197 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: why I myself because it tends I feel like the 198 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: chapters tend to be in more upper middle class areas. 199 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 2: Middle class, upper middle class areas that tend to have 200 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 2: both parents at home and hired, you know, income demographic. 201 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, I love it on multiple levels. 202 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: I love the mother son together doing something so you 203 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: get a sense of accomplishment and bonding and challenges and service. 204 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: I think service is an important element to our Christian faith, 205 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: and I think that's important. It's an action, not just 206 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: a faith. And I love the idea that people who 207 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: are the beneficiaries of this see this. It's got to 208 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: put a smile on your face and know that other 209 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: people took time out of their day. And I love 210 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: that it is action. I love looking at the photos 211 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: you sent several folk, or you posted several photos and 212 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: seeing the photos of the young men in action getting 213 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: in there with the mulch and the willburrow and stuff 214 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: like that. I don't know how many of those kids 215 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: do that on the regular, but I'm guessing probably not 216 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: that often. And it looked like they were having one 217 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: heck of a good time doing manual labor. 218 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: They were. I always say, because where our chapter is, 219 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: it's South Montgomery County. So I don't know how familiar 220 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: you are, but ninety nine east of forty five, right, 221 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: So I call it the bubble of privilege that our 222 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: kids live in because they've gone to school, you know, 223 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: their whole lives in the same little area, like you know, 224 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 2: their theater schools, the same neighborhoods. They've grown up with 225 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: the same kids, their whole lives and have kind of 226 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: a little idyllic childhood. And so when we're going out 227 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: and serving and they are leaving their bubble, I call 228 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: it it's good. It's good for them to see that. 229 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: And they are never once have I ever been at 230 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: any of our service events where any of these you know, 231 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: privileged kids have balked at getting their hands dirty. You know, 232 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: they get right in there, they get to work, they 233 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: don't complain. They're really remarkable young men. And I say, 234 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: we say young men, they're not boys at this age, right, 235 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: Like we're raising young men. We want them to go 236 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: into the community and be leaders. And that's and that's 237 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: exactly what they're going to do. 238 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: I love this. How does somebody who wants to get 239 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: involved get involved with you? How to they reach you 240 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: through this organization or whoever at the organization would be 241 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: the contact. 242 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: So YMSL dot org is the national website and you 243 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: can search for a local chapter. In eighth grade is 244 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: when they kind of you join, so because they start 245 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: in ninth grade, so spring of your eighth grade year, 246 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: like summer before your freshman year of high school. But 247 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: they they do kind of like membership drives that you know, 248 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: late winter, early spring. So I would say if you 249 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: have a son in eighth grade, but that it would 250 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: be time to kind of start looking into that and applying. 251 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: I mean, there is a membership dues component to it. 252 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: It's not very much for if you think about an 253 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: activity for a whole year, it's not much at all. 254 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: Well, I got to say, you mentioned early on that 255 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: this is a service lead, not a fundraising and I 256 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: think that's important because a lot of charities devolved into that. 257 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: Shanna Quin, God bless you for it. You're doing Young 258 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: Men's Service League. Her organization is location is the Oaks. 259 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: If you want to get him home all together, now 260 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: it's not gay. If we all do it here we go. 261 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: Keep coming. 262 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: I love the thought of a bunch of rednecks driving 263 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: along forty five going into Huntsville. There's Marcus the trail, 264 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: coma coma come right, and people looking over. You've got 265 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: frogman tattoos up and down his arm, barking at everybody. 266 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: But all of a sudden he starts singing. Turn back up, 267 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, and there's some woman pulls up 268 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: the side of him. That's a man right there. What 269 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: is he listening on? He's singing the boy George, Oh 270 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: here we go, Here we go. 271 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: He's still together. 272 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: It's not gay if everybody does at the same time. 273 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 4: You sing me, you come in, you come and go 274 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 4: record and greed redcord and every day you're my line. 275 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: Boy George wouldn't even stand out now, But back then 276 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: that was some freak stuff, and we just acted like 277 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: it was normal. I guess because he wasn't hiding it. 278 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: Oh here we go, like this music introlude. I mean, 279 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: I think back now, why didn't that bother us? That 280 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: was weird. You know, you're right, because they weren't shoving 281 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: it down our face. That's true. I remember being told 282 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: Elton John was gay, and I was like, no, it's 283 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: about a year ago. 284 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 4: Look at me. You come and. 285 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 5: You come and it's hard to imagine if you didn't 286 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 5: live through it. 287 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: But there was a minute that boy George was everywhere. 288 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you heard boy George everywhere. So some of 289 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: you will remember this story. This is just a reminder 290 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: of how evil the left is, how lives get destroyed. 291 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: You know, I'm amazed. Over the years, I would reach 292 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: out to Joe Horn. You remember Joe Horn. He's the 293 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: one that had to put down like a rabbit animal 294 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: of the thugs that were breaking into the home next 295 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: door of the Vietnamese family. They were a small business owner, 296 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: and these thugs would had a crime ring going and 297 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: they would break into Vietnamese family homes during the day 298 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: while the family was all at work, because they knew 299 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: there would be a lot of cash in there, and 300 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: they knew that those people were less likely to go 301 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: to the cops. And he put them down. And you 302 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: remember the black Panthers went and protested in front of 303 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: his house, and then our guys went over and reaved 304 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: their their Harley's and during the middle of the press conference, 305 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: these hogs were just loud as they could be and 306 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: they couldn't do the press conference. It was awesome anyway. 307 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: So over the years I would email Joe Horn, Hey, 308 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: you know it's been five years, been ten years, let's 309 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: have you back on And he would say, I go, 310 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: that devastated my life. I appreciate you, but I'd rather not. 311 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: And you don't realize the effects of things like that 312 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: on a person's life. They lose a sense of normalcy. Well, 313 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: there was a guy who was a photographer, a very 314 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: well known and well respected photographer within professional sports, and 315 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: as in every industry, it's very competitive and there are 316 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: people who rise to the top the cream, and this 317 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: guy lost his job because of a mean he posted 318 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: on his personal social media account. I actually learned about it. 319 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: It was a news story, but I actually learned about 320 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: it when Rush talked about him. Here's what he said. 321 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 6: I have two stories about Kamala Harris. One's from the 322 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 6: Spectator and one is it's a one of the one 323 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 6: of the odd ball sports websites. The NBA has fired 324 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 6: a freelance photographer because he insulted Kamala Harris. His name 325 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 6: is Bill Baptiste. He's an independent contractor had the deal 326 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 6: terminated by the league after he posted a sexist Facebook 327 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 6: post referencing Kamala Harris. He posted an image that read 328 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 6: Joe and the Hoe. Hoe. Now, what do you think 329 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 6: that's about Joe and the whoe? Well, that takes me 330 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 6: to the second story they got rid of him. By 331 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 6: the way, it's no secret but public knowledge that Kamala 332 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 6: Harris slapped her way up into California political life by 333 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 6: being a very public escort and mattress for California Democrat 334 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 6: kingmaker Willie Brown. Now, some people read this story, didn't 335 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 6: he mean mistress? No, I think they meant mattress here. 336 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 6: I think Dove Fisher is the author of the story. 337 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 6: So we have two different stories here that are trading 338 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 6: off the known fact that she was Willie Brown's mattress. 339 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: That is where that story came to be. Willy Brown, 340 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: who was the mayor, went on to be the Speaker 341 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: of the California House, powerful broker, insider, deal maker, very corrupt, 342 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: and his mistress side piece was Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris's 343 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: relationship as a hoe, as the term is frequently used, 344 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: was very very well known, very well known. So it's 345 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: not like you're criticizing the PRIs the image of mother Teresa, 346 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: God forbid. I just had a visual that photo journalist 347 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: photographer who Rush is talking about. His name is Bill Baptist, 348 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: and he lost the job that was his dream. He 349 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: was pat Can you imagine if you were a sports 350 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: nut and you're the photographer down there in all the 351 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: angles catching the when you get a front row seat 352 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 1: to everything better than a front row seat. Bill Baptist 353 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: is our guest. Welcome to the program. 354 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 3: Good sir, good morning. 355 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: I believe it's welcome back because I think you came 356 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: on shortly after that. 357 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: Yes, I did. 358 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: And that's been what five years now? 359 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 3: Yes? Actually yes? 360 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: And does it feel like it's been that long? Is it. 361 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 4: Now? 362 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 3: It kind of feels like it was, you know, maybe 363 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, but yeah, five years has 364 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: been a long time. 365 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: How did it feel listening to Rush tell your story? 366 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: That kind of brings back some bad memories. 367 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a pretty terrible thing. I remember at the 368 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: time having a sick feeling in my gut that this guy, 369 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: it's not that your life is ruined, but it's certainly affected. 370 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: Hold on, Bill Baptist, I guess almost god Hop's back. 371 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to see if I could still fit into 372 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: my Marie and Francoise, your beau tapered at the bottom, 373 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: black breches. That's all. At that same time, that's when 374 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: people were doing X. Did you ever do X? I 375 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: remember we came from Houston to a nightclub here, Chad 376 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: Prowse and I and they offered us X. I didn't 377 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: know what it was. I scared the death of it. 378 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: I knew whatever it was, my mama didn't want me 379 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: doing that. I needed to stay very far away from that. 380 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: Bill Baptist is our guess. Do you say Baptist or Baptiste. 381 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: Baptiste? 382 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 4: Oh? 383 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: I like Baptiste better way? Is there an e on 384 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: the end? 385 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 3: No, it's not buscoon ass. 386 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I got an email from a fellow named 387 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Baston said, worked with Bill when I was at 388 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: the Texans one to nine. He's first class. You had 389 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: sent me an email about Joe Duggart to get back 390 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: guy with the oilers, and you said Pastor asked Pastorini 391 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: about him, he'll he'll remember him. And so I called 392 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: Pastorini during the break and he said, oh yeah, and 393 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: he remembered you and the whole deal. How did you 394 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: get involved in sports photography? 395 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: I worked at the Summit in the maintenance department and 396 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 3: for some reason, I got interested in taking pictures, and 397 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 3: so I would take pictures of like the concerts that 398 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 3: came in and you know, the Rockets and stuff like that, 399 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: just for fun. And the team photographer for the Rockets 400 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 3: was Lou Witt, and Lou had been there, in fact, 401 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 3: he was He started with the Oilers day one, so 402 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: he had been around for a long long time, a 403 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: good photographer. He was just getting a little old. And 404 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: the guy that was kind of running the media at 405 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 3: the Rockets, he asked me if I wanted to shoot 406 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 3: for him, and I said yes. I was a little 407 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 3: hesitant because I didn't want to take a loose job 408 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 3: from him, but he said that, you know, that was okay. 409 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 3: I said okay, And so that's where I started, and 410 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: then my name kind of got wrong, got around, worked 411 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: for the Astros for a little while, worked for Rice 412 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 3: University for a long time, started with the Oilers and 413 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 3: then the Texas. So mhmm, kind of did everybody at 414 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 3: one time? 415 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: Was there any money to be made in it? 416 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? I did good. Uh it was a lot of work, 417 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: you know, back then you didn't get a lot of money, 418 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: but it was It's fine. I was single and you know, 419 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: did well, did you. 420 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: Ever come across an oilers photographer named Mark Burns? Oh yeah, 421 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: marsa buddy of mine. He went. 422 00:27:59,560 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 423 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: He burned out on photography and got into wine really big, 424 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 1: and he was repping boutique small batch French wines and 425 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: then rose to kind of the top of that field, 426 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: and then he got hardcore. But then he went back 427 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: to photography. But now he started doing nature stuff. And 428 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: his big break was President Bush and Jim McGrath, president 429 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: Bush's speech writer, commissioned him on a big national project. 430 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: I think it was through the Bush Library to go 431 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 1: photograph every National park Ramon. You don't know how many 432 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: national parks we have. There's a lot of national parks. 433 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: And he did an exhibit that was just mind blowingly gorgeous. 434 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: It's just the natural beauty of these parks in the winter, 435 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: in the spring when the leaves would change, and in 436 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: the summer the wildlife. It just an incredible project. And 437 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: then he got into movies and he's the one that 438 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: made this movie about the Phillips Boys. So it was 439 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: Bum and then Bum's son of Bum, Wade, and then 440 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: Wade's son Wes, who's still in the league today and 441 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: I think it won something at south By Southwest. The 442 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: movie's just kind of making its way bubbling up. Right now, 443 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: let's talk about what happened. So you posted a meme 444 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: Joe and the Hoe, and how did you find out 445 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: that had caught some attention. 446 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: I was in Florida shooting in the bubble for the NBA, 447 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: and so after that that game, I think I had 448 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: posted that before the game or halftime or something. I 449 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 3: think it was before the game. I was waiting for 450 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: the second game to start, and so I posted it. 451 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: And then when I got out of the arena once 452 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 3: that second game was over, my phone was just blowing up. 453 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 3: And uh, That's that's when I knew something was That 454 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 3: was probably not not a good sign. But they the 455 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 3: NBA called me that next morning, uh and said that 456 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 3: they want to talk about, uh, the game last night 457 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: kind of go over something. I knew something was up. 458 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 3: So when they called they, uh, they kind of basically 459 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 3: said that we know that that you have freedom of speech, 460 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 3: but the players are talking and so uh, you you know, 461 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 3: we have an airfare ticket for you to go back 462 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: to Houston. 463 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: Oh. 464 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 3: And that was it. 465 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 1: So so somebody could have posted that you know, Donald 466 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: a picture of Kathy Griffin cutting Donald Trump's head off 467 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: and holding it uh dee decapitated. They could, you know, 468 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: cheer for his assassination. But you you post a meme 469 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: of something that is widely regarded as true about the 470 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: sainted Kamala Harris, and you lose your livelihood. Wow. Free 471 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: speech is not guaranteed, only that Congress does not make 472 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: laws prohibiting it. So you don't technically have a free 473 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: speech right to say what you want. But culturally, our 474 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: our political tradition is that we believe in free speech 475 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: even if we don't like it. And that's that is tawdry. 476 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: That is that is awful. It still bothers me. Five 477 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: years later you retired after. 478 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: That, Yes I did, And you live in living. 479 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: On Livingston. 480 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 3: Right outside of the living cton I'm parted about twelve miles. 481 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 3: It's actually uh north of on Alaska. Oh miles north 482 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 3: of on Alaska. It's called hog Heaven Subdivision. 483 00:31:59,360 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: Oh I like that? 484 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: Do you go eat at that fried Chicken place the 485 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: old Black Lady owns? 486 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: You know what? I went by there after you said 487 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: something about that a while back, And no, I haven't 488 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 3: gone over there. But it's still there. 489 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: It is supposed to be I can't. I think it's 490 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: fried catfish. It is supposed to be amazing. Ramon you 491 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: and I need to go up there. Yeah, you have 492 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: never seen how much fried catfish I can eat it. 493 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: I don't brag about a lot of things about myself. 494 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: Maybe I do, but my fried catfish put down on capacity. 495 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it really is. It's something even I sometimes 496 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: look back and as if I'm another person to say, wow, guy, 497 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: you're amazing. Billy Baptiste, it is a pleasure to talk 498 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: to you and catch up with you. One of many 499 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: casualties of the culture war, but you seem like one 500 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: of the coolest people ever, and we appreciate you spending 501 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: time with us.