1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: It could look at this Jeffrey Epstein hoax also because 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: that's the same stuff that's all put out by Democrats. 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Some of the naive Republicans fall right into line like 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: they always do. They just don't have the they don't 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: have the sustainability. They don't have There's something they don't 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: have that sticktuitive like glue. The Democrats, you know, they 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: have bad policy, they have bad candidates, they have bad everything, 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: but they stick together and the Republicans don't do that. 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: This is a forty seven Morning Update special edition with 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: Ben ferguson. 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: Good Friday morning. It is so nice to have you 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 3: with us on the forty seven Morning Update. 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 4: And we've got one big story with two big aspects 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 4: to it, Jeffrey Epstein, the Epstein files, and a shocking 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 4: Wall Street Journal attack on President Donald Trump. I'm going 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 4: to break down why the President's now saying he is 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 4: going to sue the Wall Street Journal. I'm also going 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 4: to break down what many conservatives like myself want when 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 4: it comes to government and transparency and why this has 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 4: comes such a big issue out of nowhere in the media. 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 4: It's for one reason. They want to hurt President Donald Trump. 22 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: All Right, I want to take a moment talk about 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 4: the economy. 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It's 57 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: a forty seven morning update and it starts right now. 58 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: Story number one. 59 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 4: All right, let's deal comprehensively with the entire epscene scandal, 60 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 4: the papers, what should be put out there, and the 61 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 4: media obsessing over this story. On top of the fact 62 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: that the Wall Street Journal has come out with a 63 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: massive hit piece on Donald Trump. He's now threatening to 64 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 4: sue the Wall Street Journal. Now you want to know 65 00:03:54,440 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: how crazy this article is. Even Chris Cuomo speaking out 66 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 4: about the Wall Street Journal's reporting, and I want you 67 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: to listen to what he had to say. 68 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 5: But I get that he's pissed off, Okay, and he's 69 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 5: not wrong. This Wall Street Journal piece is a hack job, okay. 70 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 5: And he says he's suing Rupert Murdoch, who he you know, 71 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 5: is his buddy. They have, you know, Fox kind of 72 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 5: made Trump, you know, And he's suing the journal, He's 73 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 5: suing everybody. He says he didn't write the birthday letter 74 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 5: that they're ascribing to him to Epstein for his fiftieth birthday. 75 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 5: I mean, it's so stupid, Okay. The Epstein story is 76 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 5: about abusing kids who didn't have the power or agency 77 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 5: to do anything about it. That rich and powerful people 78 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 5: may have known it was going on and they got 79 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 5: away with it. That's the story. 80 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: Okay. 81 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 5: It's not that Trump liked a scumbag. Okay, Now I 82 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 5: get that. In the media, this is great because it's 83 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 5: bad for Trump and he's going crazy and he's gonna 84 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 5: pump and move the story for the Wall Street Journal 85 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 5: right now by saying it's fake and it's wrong, but 86 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 5: it doesn't move the needle in the country. It's gonna 87 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 5: make you some money, Rupert, great for you, just what 88 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 5: you need. But this is why we can't get anywhere. 89 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 5: The guy says, I didn't write the letter. The letter 90 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 5: is meaningless. You put out the piece anyway, and there's 91 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 5: no light on what really matters. Now. 92 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 4: The point that Cuomo, not a conservative, is making there 93 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 4: is absolutely right. Politics should not be involved in this. 94 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 4: This is the reason why so many MAGA conservatives like 95 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: myself have been saying we want total transparency. Why because 96 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 4: we don't trust the government. Why because they've given us 97 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 4: reasons to not trust them. We have watched them weaponize 98 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 4: the government to go after Donald Trump. We've watched them 99 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 4: weaponized the government to sell lies like the Russian collusion story, 100 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 4: to try to undermine the American people and overthrow the 101 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 4: will of the people. We have witnessed them lie about 102 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: the Hunter Biden laptop. We've witnessed the deep state and 103 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 4: all the leaders are supposed to trust the CIA and 104 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: other intelligence organizations sign a letter saying that the Hunter 105 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 4: Biden laptop was a lie. We have witnessed them lie 106 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 4: about the money that was coming into the Biden crime family. 107 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: We now have witnessed the media cover for the president 108 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 4: units it's America, Donald Trump. Let me rephrase that Joe 109 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 4: Biden with his massive cognitive decline, but they said over 110 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 4: and over again, it wasn't happening. So this story is 111 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 4: about transparency, whether there's a list or not. I want 112 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 4: to see it all with making sure that we protect 113 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: the victim's identities. I want to make sure that I 114 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: don't have to trust the deep state. I believe as 115 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 4: a citizen, I deserve to know what happened. I also 116 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 4: want to know why no one else went to jail. 117 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 4: Can we just go over that again? Why is it 118 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 4: that no one has gone to jail except for one person? 119 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 4: That's it, Maxine, all of this abuse. That is why 120 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 4: concern are angry right now. Now, Notice what the left 121 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 4: is doing. They're going all in on Epstein because they 122 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 4: think it hurts Donald Trump. They're going in not because 123 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 4: they want to protect kids, not because they want justice, 124 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 4: not because they care about whoever abused children being outed 125 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 4: and exposed and maybe even indicted or arrested. Which again, 126 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 4: only one person's gone to jail. No, no, no, they think 127 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: this now hurts Donald Trump. And again I go back 128 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: to Chris Cuomo. Chris Cuomo, a lefty saying this on 129 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 4: his show about the left, he believes is also making 130 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 4: a huge mistake. 131 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: Making a mistake going all in on this Epstein bs. 132 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 5: You did nothing to release any information about this case 133 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 5: on your watch, okay, And you watched a woman go 134 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 5: down for Epstein's crimes and did nothing to add to 135 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 5: any sense of accountability for anybody else then, so going 136 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 5: all in now is obvious and gratuitous and ugly. Okay, 137 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 5: And look I get the play. This is bad for Trump, 138 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 5: so we got to be all in there. You need 139 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 5: to give the majority reason to believe that you would 140 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 5: be better, not that just he is worse. Do you 141 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 5: understand that's the key, Not MAGA sucks, okay, Not that 142 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 5: they lied to you MAGA, So vote for us because 143 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 5: MAGA was formed in part out of desperation for feeling 144 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 5: that you on the left lie and don't deliver. So 145 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 5: this battle of attrition is just going to create two losers. 146 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 5: My suggestion is be less about your opponent and more 147 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 5: about restoring opportunity, less about who is woke and more 148 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 5: about who is broke. 149 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: And I agree, by the way, with nine percent of 150 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: what Coomo said there. 151 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 4: The left is making a mistake going all in on Epstein, 152 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: and you need to give a reason why you're better 153 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: and they're not. I'll give you another example, Arb calling 154 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 4: out Raskin today saying you could have gotten the Epstein 155 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 4: files from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty five when 156 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 4: Democrats controlled the DOJ. Why didn't the Democrats call for 157 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 4: the release then? 158 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: Right? 159 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: Because this is not about actual justices, about attacking Donald Trump. 160 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: And Raskin's response was, well, there were other cases going on. 161 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 4: I don't know there are pictures of Trump and Epstein. 162 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: That's literally his response. So, in other words, Democrats didn't 163 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 4: care because Democrats are pos's that's what this boils down to. 164 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 4: They only care now because they think this is going 165 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 4: to hurt Donald Trump. 166 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: Now. 167 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 4: I also want to be clear why so many conservatives 168 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 4: are frustrated right now. 169 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: I am one of them. 170 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 4: I am not demanding that you give me something that 171 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 4: doesn't exist. I'm not demand that you fabricate something, not 172 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 4: demand that you go out and arrest innocent people. I 173 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 4: am demanding transparency This should be about the victims. And 174 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 4: the point I would say to President Trump right now 175 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 4: if I was sitting with him, is, mister President, you 176 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 4: promised transparency. You did it on rfk assassination, you did 177 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 4: it on Martin Luther King, You've done it on many 178 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: other issues. 179 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 3: The American people want the same level of transparency, even 180 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: if the transparency shows us nothing. I don't know if 181 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: there's an Epstein list. I've been told there is an 182 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 3: Epstein list. I've been told that this was there for 183 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 3: a long time. Now. 184 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 4: If that was a lie and I was lied to, 185 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: then show me what you do have, show me that 186 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 4: there is maybe not as much there as we thought. 187 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 4: And look, I think one of the reasons why Democrats 188 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 4: talked about the Epstein list is because they kept saying 189 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 4: over and over again, Donald Trump's in the Epstein files. 190 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 4: Donald Trump's in the Epstein list. Donald. They used that 191 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: to attack Donald Trump. If there is nothing in there, 192 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 4: then fine. There's a point that's been made by as lawyers. 193 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 4: Most criminals don't keep records of their crimes. That may 194 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 4: be true, but there's a lot of information that's been redacted. 195 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: Now. 196 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 4: I want to protect the victims as many conservatives do. 197 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 4: But I also think that I deserve to see more 198 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 4: than what we are seeing right now now. I think 199 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 4: the presence moving towards that. I also want to be 200 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 4: clear about one other thing that's been a lie. There 201 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 4: have been people that have been saying that Donald Trump 202 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 4: can release everything, all of it instantly. 203 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: Is the president United It's America. That is a lie. 204 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: If you talk to judges and lawyers, they will tell 205 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: you no. 206 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 4: Much of what would be released would have to be 207 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 4: approved by judges or by a judge. A great example 208 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 4: of that is all of the witnesses and all the 209 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 4: people that went before the grand jury. That information would 210 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 4: have to be approved by a judge. So when they 211 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: tell you that Trump can give you everything, they are 212 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: lying to you. 213 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: That is not true. He cannot give you everything. 214 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 4: What am I asking for in so many other conservatives 215 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: total transparency. Whether it's nothing or whether it's something. We'll 216 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 4: figure that out. And that is the point that many 217 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 4: Americans say they want and also why they voted for 218 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 4: Donald Trump. 219 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to the forty seven Morning Update 220 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: with Ben Ferguson. Please make sure you hit subscribe wherever 221 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: you're listening to this podcast. Right now and for more 222 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,359 Speaker 2: in depth news. Also subscribe to the Ben Ferguson podcast 223 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 2: and we will see you back here tomorrow