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Speaker 1: everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm Ken

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal Hugh with Alana Rizzo. A lot of where I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Unfortunately, Ken, when you talk to any sort of

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Speaker 2: general manager, president of baseball operations, and certainly manager of

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Speaker 2: the ball club, the only goal that anybody has in

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Speaker 2: spring training is to break camp healthy. And there's been

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about that.

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Speaker 2: First, Gunner Henderson as well as Christian Walker. What's the

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Speaker 2: latest you can tell us and Ken if it happens

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Speaker 2: these guys, which team is hurt the most?

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Speaker 1: First off, Gunner Henderson, right, Intercostal. It's one of those

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Speaker 1: he's the Oriole's best player. They do not want to

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Speaker 1: lose him for any length of time. But we're almost,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, three weeks away from opening day or

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Speaker 1: Christian Walker a little bit more of a concern for

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Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. He is dealing with a left

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Speaker 1: and of course he is the Astro's biggest offseason addition.

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Speaker 1: So when you ask which team would be hurt more

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Speaker 1: simply because Henderson is one of the most valuable players

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Speaker 1: That said, all of that said, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: The season is a long season, it's six months long.

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Speaker 1: Injuries are going to occur, and whenever people ask me

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Speaker 1: tell you exactly what's going to happen. We don't know

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen. And again with these two, certainly

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Speaker 2: And obviously in spring training you're going to take the

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Speaker 2: utmost caution when it comes to any sort of injury,

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Speaker 2: not going to take any risks. But it does make

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Speaker 2: me a little hesitant, Ken when you talk about an

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Speaker 2: side pain, the side issue, you never really know. They're

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Speaker 2: almost like hamstrings, and you never quite know how long

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Speaker 2: let's be unbelievable, unbelievably cautious with these two guys, or

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Speaker 1: Old Now, that's a great point, and these side muscle

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Speaker 1: The reason the Mets did not sign Iglesias was they

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Speaker 1: Jose Kintana. It's a different kind of deal. He did

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Speaker 1: Every year we see this, we see the normal attrition

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Speaker 2: He's played for three very historic franchises. Are you surprised

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Speaker 1: Alani, You make a great point for Dugo is not

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Speaker 2: To get your questions in for Grill and Ken. Any

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Speaker 1: Certainly can be interpreted that way. And the other element

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, Ken, because sometimes you think about the

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Speaker 3: What is your take on that.

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Speaker 2: Me ask you this, Kenn, I'm certain that you have

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Speaker 2: Do you think that there should be a place in

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Speaker 1: I don't see it like that. And my feeling is Bonds, Clemens,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly not an easy situation, very complex issue, if

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Speaker 1: of wonder about and think, I don't know, that guy's

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Speaker 1: still a big leader, that guy still should be playing.

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Speaker 1: And while obviously their contract demands or requests and other

433
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Speaker 1: things come into play where they might or might not

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Speaker 1: want to play, it just seems that some of the

435
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Speaker 1: names that are still out there right now should not

436
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Speaker 1: be out there period.

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Speaker 3: And I think the other side of that coin.

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Speaker 2: Stephen Richter on our chat here bringing it up do More,

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Speaker 2: he says that they don't need more teams, screaming about

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Speaker 2: being small market teams. I mean, the expansion I would

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Speaker 2: imagine is what maybe Nashville, if we're lucky, or maybe

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Speaker 2: another small market team. Is their validity to that saying that,

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Speaker 2: you know, two more teams, just adding the you know,

444
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Speaker 2: more pieces to the pie isn't necessarily good for baseball.

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Speaker 1: It's a fair question. And Nashville and let's say Salt

446
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Speaker 1: Lake City or Portland, the western part of the equation here,

447
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Speaker 1: They're not going to be in New York or LA

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Speaker 1: or Chicago or even Boston. We understand that. But are

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Speaker 1: they viable major league markets? Yes? And can they support

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Speaker 1: teams and put out payrolls that are reasonable levels I

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Speaker 1: would expect if you're going to expand that would be

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Speaker 1: your expectation as a league. So the owners would probably say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we can absorb two more teams. We've got to have

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Speaker 1: some salary restraints and salary control, and that's what the

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Speaker 1: next CBA is going to be all about. But I

456
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Speaker 1: will say this again, I've said this repeatedly, and it

457
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Speaker 1: bears repeated commentary. There is an our sport, baseball, a

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Speaker 1: soft cap at the top of the salary structure. It

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Speaker 1: is the luxury tax system. There is no reason, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, why that same kind of structure can't work

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of the payrolls situation. The payroll structure

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Speaker 1: and the owners repeatedly have said, well, we're not going

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Speaker 1: to do a floor without a cap. Well, you sort

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Speaker 1: of have a quasi cap. You can have a quasi

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Speaker 1: floor and let's see how that works. There's no talk

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Speaker 1: of that. The owners want a hard cap and a

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Speaker 1: hard floor. I get it, that's what every owner of desires,

468
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Speaker 1: but it's not practical in my opinion for this particular sport,

469
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Speaker 1: because it's going to lead to a work stoppage at

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Speaker 1: a point in the sports history when it has never

471
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Speaker 1: been in some measures, by some measures more successful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, owners would love it if the players would

473
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Speaker 2: just play for free for the fun of the game.

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Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal, last question here on Grill and Ken. You've

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Speaker 2: been all over the place in terms of camps already

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Speaker 2: this spring training. Is there anybody that you've interviewed so

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Speaker 2: far that you believe is going to have one heck

478
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Speaker 2: of a year.

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Speaker 1: Hmm. It's always rosy this time of year and everybody

480
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Speaker 1: to have a great year. But one guy that stood

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Speaker 1: out to me and talking to some Braves people the

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Speaker 1: last few days, was Spencer Schwellenbach. And I know Jeff

483
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Speaker 1: Passon wrote an article yesterday I believe in ESPN dot

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Speaker 1: com mentioning ten players who executives think are going to

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Speaker 1: have big years, and Schwellenback was one of them. He

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Speaker 1: was great last year and he looks really good this spring.

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Speaker 1: So that's one that stands out just off the top

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Speaker 1: of my head. I'm sure there are others I could

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Speaker 1: think of, but Spencer Schwellenbach a huge part of the

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Speaker 1: Braves rotation, and that rotation one strider comes back if

491
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Speaker 1: Sale is good, if Rinaldo Lopez is good again as well.

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Speaker 1: That looks like a pretty interesting group. They've got Grant

493
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Speaker 1: Holmes and Ian Anderson coming back to and they're going

494
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Speaker 1: to try them as starters. Both are out of options,

495
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Speaker 1: so they need them to be on the team in

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Speaker 1: some fashion. But I just like kind of what I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing about their starting pitching. Now. The question is, as

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Speaker 1: I just mentioned, will Sale do it again or even

499
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Speaker 1: come close to doing it again? Will Rinaldo Lopez do

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Speaker 1: it again as well? Every team has these kinds of questions.

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Speaker 1: But Schwellenbach is a guy who looks like he's going

502
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Speaker 1: to be a star.

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Speaker 2: I see what happens too, because Max Freed is no

504
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Speaker 2: longer there. But it'll be good to see what Atlanta does.

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Speaker 2: I'd never count out the Atlanta Braves. Love snit, love

506
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Speaker 2: what they do. They're Alexanthopolis one of the best. Okay,

507
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Speaker 2: time now for dude and dork of the week.

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Speaker 1: Dude, dude, dude, all right.

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Speaker 2: Due to the Week is a time when Ken and

510
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Speaker 2: I get to give props to somebody or in an

511
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Speaker 2: organization that we think had a good week, did something good.

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Speaker 3: Who is your dude of the week? Ken?

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Speaker 1: My dude of the week is someone that I wrote

514
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Speaker 1: about today, Ronald Acuna Junior, and I wrote about how

515
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Speaker 1: he has spent the past few years learning English and

516
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Speaker 1: is now conducting interviews in English. He is from Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: He is a person who has Spanish as his first

518
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Speaker 1: language is native language. And not just a counya for

519
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Speaker 1: Due to the Week, but all of the foreign born

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Speaker 1: players who learn English and learn one of the most

521
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Speaker 1: challenging languages there is in the world and then speak

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Speaker 1: it publicly. It's something that is really difficult to do.

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Speaker 1: It is something that I wrote about today because I

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Speaker 1: kind of wanted to give people a greater appreciation of

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Speaker 1: it and hope that they develop a greater appreciation for

526
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Speaker 1: just how difficult it is for players to speak in

527
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Speaker 1: a second language. That is a difficult second language. So

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Speaker 1: props to Acuna and props to all the guys out there,

529
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Speaker 1: Latin American and Asian who choose to speak publicly in English.

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Speaker 1: It's not an easy thing to do.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more.

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Speaker 2: I always give props to players that tried to do that,

533
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Speaker 2: and having been one of those interpreters on the SIBE

534
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Speaker 2: where you're trying to do questions in English and in

535
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Speaker 2: Spanish and do all of those things, it's difficult.

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Speaker 3: So I'm with you one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: I do have a question for you, though, and you

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Speaker 2: can speak on this, having covered this game for so

539
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: long and so many it's an international game, is it not.

540
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Speaker 3: I mean, we're a year away from the World.

541
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Speaker 2: Baseball Classic Games starting, so is there any truth in

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Speaker 2: your opinion that some of the players choose to speak

543
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Speaker 2: in their native tongue, not just from a comfort factor,

544
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Speaker 2: but they also want to stay connected to their roots

545
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Speaker 2: and folks watching at home, and their family members and

546
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Speaker 2: friends and those types of things. Is there any substance

547
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Speaker 2: to that.

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Speaker 1: I've never asked that, but I'm sure that might be

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Speaker 1: part of it for some players. I would, I guess,

550
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Speaker 1: say to that in response that you could still maintain

551
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Speaker 1: your native tongue and be interviewed in your native language

552
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Speaker 1: for people back home while speaking English. But again, I

553
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Speaker 1: don't want to cast a pejorative on any player who

554
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Speaker 1: does not speak English. Some just never get comfortable enough

555
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Speaker 1: to do it publicly. Hey, we all understand that I

556
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Speaker 1: don't speak Spanish, and in the article it's one of

557
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Speaker 1: the biggest regrets and biggest failings of my career that

558
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Speaker 1: I never learned adequate Spanish to converse with players. So again,

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Speaker 1: it's just appreciating the difficulty of it and understanding that

560
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Speaker 1: what these guys do when they learn a new language

561
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Speaker 1: and then are able to do interviews in the new language,

562
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Speaker 1: that's really impressive.

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Speaker 3: Kenny.

564
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Speaker 2: The way that the game is going, you better start

565
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Speaker 2: learning Japanese, and you better do it quick. Okay, George

566
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Speaker 2: Mason is my dude of the week. They scored twenty

567
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Speaker 2: three runs in one inning. And you might say, okay,

568
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Speaker 2: maybe the other team was terrible defensively, whatever, But what

569
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Speaker 2: I love about this is George Mason did at all

570
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: Ken without a home run. How about some small ball

571
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: at the college level.

572
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 1: It's incredible. How you do that without a whole Well

573
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Speaker 1: I know you do it. But yes, that was an

574
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Speaker 1: incredible inning for George Mason. And good for them. That's awesome.

575
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Speaker 3: Yeah, good for them. That's all we have to say.

576
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Speaker 2: All right, time now for our dork of the Week,

577
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 2: presented by John Fisher and today Ken. It's not a

578
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Speaker 2: member of the athletics organization. Who's your dork of the week.

579
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Speaker 1: Well, it's not even someone in baseball. It's Travis Hunter. Now,

580
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter is a college kid. He's going to be

581
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: a high draft pick, maybe even the number one pick

582
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. But listen to what he said this week.

583
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Speaker 6: What's more difficult Probably mean what I do a football

584
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 6: because it's a lot on your body, you know, Tunny,

585
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 6: he's a great player, but you got to do a

586
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 6: lot of your football, all.

587
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: Right, He's right about that. Then it is hard on

588
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: your body, and playing football, it can wreck your body

589
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: offense or defense. But the sheer difficulty of hitting a

590
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: baseball and pitching like Otani does, I'm sorry that is

591
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: more difficult. Not more difficult physically perhaps, although Otani has

592
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: hurt himself both on the basis and pitching, but more

593
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: difficult in terms of sheer skills. So I'm being a

594
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Speaker 1: little hard on Travis Hunter. But in general, I don't

595
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Speaker 1: know that people appreciate one how difficult it is to

596
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Speaker 1: hit at the major league level, particularly in this era,

597
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: and to be able to compartmentalize and handle the two

598
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: chores that Otani does, pitching and hitting. So Travis, all

599
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Speaker 1: the best to you. I'm sure you're gonna have a

600
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: great NFL career and I'll enjoy watching you. But I

601
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Speaker 1: don't know that you're here your sports Otani just yet.

602
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Speaker 2: And so funny, I have so much to say about

603
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Speaker 2: this because I am a University of Colorado Alam, I'm

604
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: a big Travis Hunter fan. I'm a big CU football fan.

605
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give him a pass just for a second.

606
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: A lot of questions going on at media day, those

607
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: types of things.

608
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Speaker 3: A quick answer, very very good kid. I do think

609
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Speaker 3: I agree with him.

610
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Speaker 2: The physical toll on a body what he does is harder,

611
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: but the absolute skill set of what o'tani does is

612
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: much much harder, and his own coach is only surrogate.

613
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Speaker 3: Father Dion Sanders, who.

614
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: Was the coach of the University of Colorado, was a

615
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Speaker 2: two way player himself in football, and even the coach

616
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Speaker 2: Prime said that hitting a baseball is the hardest thing

617
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Speaker 2: in the world that he's ever done.

618
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Speaker 3: He was a two sport athlete.

619
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Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons obviously went to FSU the whole thing played baseball.

620
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Speaker 2: Listen to your coach, Travis, it is harder to hit

621
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Speaker 2: a baseball in the accurate way and the unbelievable way

622
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: that o'tani does a lot harder than going you know,

623
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Speaker 2: defensive back and wide receiver as far as that is concerned.

624
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Speaker 2: Love your kid, go buffs, best of luck in the NFL.

625
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Speaker 3: All right, my dork of the week.

626
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Speaker 2: And this is on a technicality because I noticed it

627
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Speaker 2: this week, but it was actually written last week. It

628
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It's still pissing me off.

629
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Speaker 3: Today.

630
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Speaker 2: Artie Moreno is saying that he thinks that the Angels

631
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: are basically going to take a loss.

632
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: Jeff Fletcher posted this last week.

633
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Speaker 2: Of course, Jeff Fletcher does a great job for the

634
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: Orange County Register. Moreno spoke on a variety of topics,

635
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: the bottom line, the winter he was selling it now

636
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: he isn't, and the ballpark, but he said that they're

637
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: going to lose at least fifty million this year.

638
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: Well here's a thought, Alardy. Again, I'm not the.

639
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: Smartest person in the room, but maybe you don't sign

640
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: ridiculous contracts to people who never play. Maybe you build

641
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 2: a roster that's not just unbelievable position players, one that

642
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: never wants to play and doesn't like to play the

643
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: game of baseball. And maybe you put a product on

644
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: the field that makes fans want to come to your stadium.

645
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: Or maybe you don't flip flop on wanting.

646
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: To sell the team. That's all, that's all I have.

647
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Speaker 2: He's my dork of the week, So it is an

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Speaker 2: owner ken, It's just not John Fisher this week.

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Speaker 1: It's already Moreno, well Arty, moreno, Alana. You make great

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Speaker 1: points on him. And also let's not forget the resale

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Speaker 1: Like all teams of skyrocketed, and I know they're not

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Speaker 1: some point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: There's a note here on our chat from Elisheva Jones,

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Speaker 2: Here for you Ken on foul territory. She said, you

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. We haven't want to

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Speaker 3: Take care