1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Hi and everybody. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading the Bengals Booth Podcast. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: The Everything's Gonna be ah right. Addition, as the Bengals 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: open the season with a lackluster performance, to put it nicely, 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: losing their opener at Cleveland twenty four to three. Coming up, 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: you'll hear radio replays and locker room comments from players 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: and coaches. Then, in this week's fun Facts Conversation, team 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: president Mike Brown joins me to discuss high expectations, the 9 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: booming business of the NFL, and responding to letters from fans. 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by pay Corps. 11 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: More than twenty nine thousand customers trust Paycorp to help 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: them recruit, pay, engage, and retain employees. Learn more at 13 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: paycoorp dot com. Now here's a quick reminder that you 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,959 Speaker 2: can have the latest edition of this podcast delivered right 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing wherever you 16 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since the players 17 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: who join us on our weekly radio shows. Dave Lapham 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: and I host two shows together every week, The Bengals 19 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: Game Plan Show on Wednesday nights from six to eight 20 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: and the Bengals pep Rally Show on Friday afternoons from 21 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: three to six. At nearly every show, a current player 22 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: joins us, and in addition to spending an hour with 23 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: us on the radio, they always sign autographs and post 24 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: for pictures during the commercial breaks. Last week, Orlando Brown 25 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 2: Junior and Nick Scott were our guests and they were 26 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: awesome with fans. We don't know our guests yet for 27 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: this week, but we do know our locations will be 28 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: at the Holy Grail Banks on Wednesday night and Wings 29 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: and Rings in Fairfield next to Jungle Gyms on Friday. 30 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: Hope to see you there. Now, let's get to Sunday's 31 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: frustrating season opener. On a dreary, rainy and gray day 32 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: in Cleveland, the Bengals got the ball to begin the 33 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: game and immediately connected on third down and nine on 34 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: a twelve yard pass from Joe Burrow to Jamar Chase. 35 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: That was their longest pass completion all day and their 36 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: only third down conversion in eight tries in the first half. 37 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: Shotgun snap blitz coming Burrow in trouble and Joe will 38 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: be sacked. Didn't lose much. He lost two yards as 39 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: he tried to run forward, but he does get sacked 40 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: by Okunquo. A free agent acquisition, and the Bengals will 41 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: bring in rookie punter Brad Robbins. That was a familiar 42 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: theme as the Bengals punted on their first seven possessions. 43 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: Here's Tyler Boyd on floundering on third down. 44 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: That hurt us a lot. 45 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 4: Does We've got ourselves on stand out there and converted, 46 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: you know, and third down especially because we know that's 47 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: when man covers is gonna come in. That's when the 48 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: one on one upportunities come in. That's when we make 49 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 4: the big plays. Let's us see, and you didn't say 50 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 4: because they got the best of us. 51 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: The Browns weren't much better in the early going. Their 52 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: first six drives included four punts and a fumble, but 53 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: they did manage to get on the scoreboard early in 54 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: the second quarter. The snap, the placement, the right footed kick, 55 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: a high spinning and over end kick, and it was 56 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: given the Cleveland Browns a three to nothing lead. It 57 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: was still three to nothing late in the half when 58 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: the Browns put together the best drive that either team 59 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: had all day. It featured five first downs covered sixty 60 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: seven yards and ended with the game's first touchdown, second 61 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: and ten from the Bengals thirteen. Watson's a quarterback draw. 62 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: He's at the ten to five touchdown Cleveland. The Browns 63 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: led ten to nothing at the half. The Bengals defense 64 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: was playing okay, but the offense was anemic. Here's Ted karras. 65 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 5: Our defense was executing. They gave us a lot of 66 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 5: chances to win the game. 67 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 6: We didn't do it. 68 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: Second half highlights in a moment, But first reminder that 69 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: the Bengals Booth podcast is brought to you by Alta Fiber, 70 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: future proof fiber Internet capable of delivering multi gigabit speeds. 71 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: Design to take your home, business, and community to a 72 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: new level. Elevate your connection with Alta Fiber. The Bengals 73 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: offense came to life to begin the second half, getting 74 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 2: help on a pass interference penalty to drive within field 75 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: goal range. Bengals trying to get on the scoreboard here 76 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 2: in the third quarter, trailing by ten, McPherson's kick is 77 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: and it is good to put Cincinnati on the scoreboard 78 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: for the first time in twenty twenty three. They were 79 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: only down by a touchdown and things really started looking 80 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: up when the Bengals got a takeaway. On the Browns 81 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: next possession, Watson walks up to the line of scrimmage, 82 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: now backs up into the gun left foot in front 83 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: of right. He catches the shotgun snap fakes the Chubb 84 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: does a whirly bird before scrambling to the left. Couple 85 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: of bottles taken down. 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: There's a penalty flight, but the passes intercepted. Dax Hill 87 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: has the ball running up the near sideline and he 88 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: goes out of bounds at the fifty yard line. 89 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: But after driving to the Cleveland thirty three Joe Burrows 90 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 2: deep ball to t Higgins was broken up at the 91 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: last instant by Cleveland safety Grant Delpit. Here's Higgins on 92 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: that key defensive play. 93 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 5: I mean, at the end of day, it was a 94 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 5: great playful. He put his hand up at the right time. 95 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 5: If he didn't do that, that's a catch. 96 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: If he hadn't, it probably would have been a game 97 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: tying touchdown. Instead, the Bengals had to settle for a 98 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: fifty one yard field goal try. Bengals trying to score 99 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 2: field goals on back to back possessions in the second 100 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: half after being shut out in the first to kick 101 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 2: his Oh no is wide right. It is no good. 102 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: It was money Max, first missed from fifty plus since 103 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. The Browns answered with a field goal 104 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: to take a thirteen to three lead to the fourth quarter, 105 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: and kicked another one early in the fourth to make 106 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 2: it sixteen to three. The Bengals were running out of 107 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 2: chances and Zach Taylor knew it as the Bengals went 108 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: for it on fourth and four from their own thirty one, 109 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: with ten and a half minutes remaining, Fourth out and 110 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: four shotgun snap to borrow. Joe scrambling to the. 111 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: Right, sacked by Miles Garrett inside the twenty. Miles Garrett 112 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: with his first sack of the season, and it comes 113 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 1: at a great time. 114 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: It'll give the Browns the ball in the red zone, 115 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: and four plays later they were in the end zone. 116 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: Watson throws a pass caught in the end zone by 117 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: a sliding Harrison Bryant for a Cleveland Brown's touchdown. 118 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 5: And Deshaun Watson is doing is uh. He's skipping to 119 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 5: the fifty yard line and now coming back to celebrate 120 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 5: with his teammates. This game means a lot to Deshaun Watson. 121 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: The Browns won it twenty four to three, and it 122 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: was a brutal day for Joe Burrow. Unlike last season's opener, 123 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 2: where he threw four interceptions, Joe didn't have any turnovers, 124 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: but he only completed fourteen of thirty one pass that's 125 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: forty five percent, the first time Joe has ever completed 126 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 2: less than half of his throws in fifty NFL starts, 127 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: including playoff games. Joe finished with eighty two passing yards. 128 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: His previous low was one forty eight, and Joe's passer 129 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: rating of fifty two point two was also a new 130 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 2: career low. The Browns defensive backs deserve much of the credit. 131 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 7: They got really good corners. You know, Denzel and Emerson 132 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 7: are two of the better corners in the league. I think, 133 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 7: you know Newsom is a is a great nickel too, 134 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 7: So they got a great secondary. Obviously, we weren't good 135 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 7: enough in me putting the ball in the right place 136 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 7: and in our one on one situations. We just didn't 137 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 7: come out on top today. 138 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: But as good as the Browns were defensively, Burrow just 139 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: looked off. The five weeks of training camp that he 140 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: missed surely was a factor. 141 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 7: The quarterback doesn't perform in training camp. You know, that 142 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 7: was obviously something that I would have liked to have done. 143 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 7: But there's no excuses. It's obviously not very good today, 144 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 7: so we got to be better. 145 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: Consider the Joe threw eight passes for t Higgins and 146 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: didn't complete any of them. He threw nine for Jamar 147 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: Chase and completed five for thirty nine yards. And Chase 148 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: is now public enemy number one in Cleveland after making 149 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: a crack about the Browns fifty yard line ELF logo 150 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: last week that was turned into bulletin board material. I 151 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: was among the reporters who talked to Chase after the game. 152 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: We're not accustomed to seeing the offense struggle to the 153 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: extent that it to today. How would you describe today's game? 154 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: Went too good on offensives. I fell into some conditions 155 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: who weren't ready for for real, so they got to 156 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: be ready to execute the next time. 157 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: Conditions as in weather yep? Did you just feel flat? 158 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: How would you describe how it felt out there? 159 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: None just was going always for real. We had good 160 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: Lott Hag opportunities they play man, I mean, we had 161 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: good looks. We just didn't execute on'em. 162 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: Jill missed about five weeks. Were you guys are little 163 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: out of sink? 164 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 3: Probably that's probably what it was. Probably that, you know 165 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, I don't, don't. Nobody really knows to 166 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: we look at the film. You gotta execute. I'm gonna 167 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: keep blaming that on the conditions, but that's what they 168 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: looked like for us and play. 169 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 8: Do you think the offense was just out of sync 170 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 8: aside from the other the just things that normally don't 171 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 8: happen for all happened. 172 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: I mean, we didn't get a lot of stuff going 173 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: our way, you know what I'm saying. We had a 174 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: couple of drop passes on boats on our end, which 175 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: was getting rested a couple of times. They just didn't 176 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: execute when we had the looks. 177 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 5: What about their defense? They seemed to be real aggressive 178 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 5: in what they were doing in terms of pressure and coverage. 179 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 5: With was the weather of factor there? Did you decide 180 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 5: to get more aggressive? 181 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 3: Do you think the game plan for what they defense 182 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: what we had we already was expecting it. They did 183 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: exactly what we was expecting. Like I said, we just 184 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 3: didn't take advantage of the opportunities that they gave us. 185 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 9: More exact said after the game that this was not you, 186 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 9: This performance was not this team. Yeah, what do you 187 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 9: think when you put your finger on why you guys 188 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 9: just worked yourselves today. 189 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: I don't know if he I don't know. I don't 190 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 3: know how to answer that. 191 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: Bro. 192 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 9: Honestly, we saw this team last year started to go 193 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 9: and too, and you guys still in the AC Championship. 194 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 9: We know slow starts are going to derail the season, 195 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 9: which is how frustrating is it to have the build 196 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 9: up start the season to come here and. 197 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 10: Not play well. 198 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: It's frustrating because I called the ass l's and we 199 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: just lost to some ls. So I'm pissed on my party. 200 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm pissed on that. And like I said, man, 201 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: we got missed opportunities. We didn't capitalize on that and 202 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 3: we lost. So that's how we lost. John, I guess. 203 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 8: Bullet and more Maiturion with all the el stuff and 204 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 8: all that, what do you what did you make of 205 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 8: all that? 206 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 10: Did you drop the league? 207 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 5: Made up? 208 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 3: He just want to have some attention, so he just 209 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 210 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 7: How prepared are you for the for the blowback that 211 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 7: might come with the comments you made and then the 212 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 7: result of this game. 213 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 3: We'll blow back. I mean, did you say, if he 214 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: got me saying something I'm saying right now, he's soft. 215 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: If they soft with me saying l's and that the soft. 216 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: Then there's a gigantic ELF in the middle of the 217 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: field in Cleveland. It's not like Chase just randomly called 218 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 2: the Browns elves. But whatever, Cleveland won the game, their players, coaches, 219 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: and fans get to gloat until they meet again in 220 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 2: the final game of the regular season. Meanwhile, the Bengals 221 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: overcame an zero and two start last year, but they 222 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: can ill afford another one. Here are Burrow, Orlando Brown Junior, 223 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: and Tyler Boyd. 224 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 7: Week one doesn't define anybody's season. Obviously, not very good 225 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 7: out there, but anybody that watched saw that. But we've 226 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 7: been in the spot before. We've come back stronger and 227 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 7: had great years. So that's what we're going to do. 228 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I don't want to use the word frustration. 229 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 5: Then it's definitely disappointing, but at the end of the day, 230 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 5: that's football, and it's not always going to be perfect, 231 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 5: you know what. 232 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 4: I mean, It's it's other games and we'll have other 233 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 4: opportunities to prove ourselves right, because I think overall we 234 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 4: played great difference heck of a game offense. We started 235 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 4: getting things going, but we never got consistent at moving 236 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 4: the ball. And say whatever you want about the weather, 237 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 4: but Day was out there making plays. The Browns made 238 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 4: plays enough plays to win SAM So we didn't make 239 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 4: enough play. That's what it gonna come down. 240 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 7: So it's one week obviously not up to our standard, 241 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 7: not up to my standard, but you got sixteen more 242 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 7: of them, so we're it's gonna keep trucking. 243 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: Speaking of trucking, Brown's running back Nick Chubb finished with 244 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: one hundred and six yards on eighteen carries in ten 245 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 2: career games against the Bengals. He's top to one hundred 246 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: yards six times. There aren't many running backs that have 247 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: that much success when DJ Reider is on the field 248 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: for Cincinnati. I spoke to the Bengals defensive tackle about 249 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: the dismal opener. I'm sure that was the total opposite 250 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: of what everybody in this room expected. You just came 251 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: out and really couldn't see it to get much going, 252 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: particularly in the offensive end. 253 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we came out we were a little 254 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 6: flat this was the team in general. 255 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 5: But that's tough for you. Got to get back to. 256 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 6: The drawing board. I know it's such a cliche you're saying. 257 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 6: I hate saying that obviously, but we got I'm not 258 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 6: going to to do a thing a lot of guys. 259 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 6: I'm in our team. On our team, that good guys 260 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 6: played a. 261 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: Lot of good balls. 262 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 6: So I mean, we not tripping off. 263 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 5: Who we are. 264 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 6: We just gotta go out there and do it. The 265 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 6: guys can't start flat. 266 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: Is it fair to wonder if the Bengals need to 267 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: change the preseason approach and play some guys more. Do 268 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: you think that's a factor at all. 269 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 6: I don't know if that's it. I think it's more 270 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 6: so like you know, if you don't, I know. 271 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 5: You need the reps. 272 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: I don't. 273 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 6: I know people talk about that, but the fu Yeah, 274 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 6: you wake up on Sunday, it's snow, the grass, everybody's 275 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 6: ready to go. I don't think that's the thing, Like 276 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Oh, we blame it on 277 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 6: There is language. Nobody has like a what happened? We 278 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 6: came out flat? We got meat? They need us? How 279 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 6: goes sometimes? 280 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: Man? 281 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 6: And unfortunately that's how it's going on our opening the 282 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 6: last couple of years, so we just we gotta really 283 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 6: get on it. 284 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: The touchdown late in the first half, did you feel 285 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: like that was a a a big momentum swing for 286 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: Cavelent It was three nothing at the. 287 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 6: Time, Nah, cause we came out and gotta stop. So 288 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 6: I don't. I wouldn't call it that, you know what 289 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 6: I'm saying, like, Oh, it's just the end of the world. 290 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 9: Now. 291 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 6: We came out and gotta stop three out the next 292 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 6: So I didn't think it was a big momentium shift. 293 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 6: I think, well, we just didn't do it. His great 294 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 6: guy and they got put in some tough spots and 295 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 6: didn't find a way out of them, you know, So 296 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 6: that's just really what happened. 297 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 5: I don't. 298 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 6: I don't think that that kind of that moment was 299 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 6: the momentum shift. 300 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: You didn't play in the game here last year, but 301 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: the Bengals obviously have had a lot of trouble in 302 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: this building. Is it frustrating to come here and just 303 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: play poorly again things. 304 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's really frustrating. You never wanna go anywhere and 305 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 6: play powardly. We talk like you didn't start riding fortunately 306 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 6: in our division. We'll get to see him twice, so 307 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 6: we gotta come to us next. You can't really gotta 308 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 6: scrap this game, you know, I can't really think. 309 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 10: About it anymore. 310 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: We know with this offense, it's only a matter of 311 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: time before they get it rolling. Is it almost hard 312 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: to believe when they struggle as badly as they struggle today, you. 313 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 6: Know what they're used to and you know, we just 314 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 6: go out there encourage them to get back to that 315 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 6: and they'll get back to it. It's not it's definitely 316 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 6: different when they don't, you know, but get that people 317 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 6: out of the days. Man, it happens, and you can't 318 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 6: expect you to be perfect every day. Fortunately, might this 319 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 6: lead it expect you to be perfect other Sunday And 320 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 6: I just wentting this Sunday. So guys gotta get back 321 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 6: to the daring board. I think a lot of guys 322 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 6: pride Hurst got it, so I think it would be 323 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 6: a good thing for us. You know, we've been able 324 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 6: to bat it out of this back against the wall 325 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 6: the last two years, so we'll be able to get it. 326 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: Does appreciate your time, Thank you to out no Doubt. 327 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by Bengals 328 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: Picks and Ultimate Bengals. They're free to play with tickets 329 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: and sign merchandise up for grabs. Find both inside the 330 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: Bengals app Now time to hear what Zach Taylor had 331 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: to say after the game, as he spent a couple 332 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: of minutes with Dave Lapham coach. 333 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 5: Obviously, twenty four to three outcome wasn't what you were 334 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 5: looking for, but coming out of this football game, just 335 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 5: the good news just seemed to come out of it 336 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 5: pretty darn healthy. 337 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll look at that, but obviously we want to 338 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 8: come out of here with a win and healthy. You know. 339 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 8: But it's a long season, so we got to make 340 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 8: the corrections that we can control and be ready to 341 00:15:58,720 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 8: go next weekend's Baltimore. 342 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 5: In your mind, what are some of those corrections that 343 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 5: you feel like need to be made that you can't control. 344 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 8: There's gonna be a lot of hidden yardage in just 345 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 8: all over the field, you know that presented us with 346 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 8: field position and then third down clearly on offense, we 347 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 8: were two fifteen or three fifteen, and that's that's not 348 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 8: going to beat anybody. So there's gonna be a lot 349 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 8: of things we can. 350 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 5: Clean up defensively, particularly in the first half. Two takeaways. 351 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 5: You didn't turn the football over, you went plus two. 352 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 5: You know, that's that's going to win you some football 353 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 5: games when other things are ironed out. 354 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 8: There's no question, you know they did. They did what 355 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 8: we needed them to do, and we went for on 356 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 8: fourth down in their territory and they gave up seven 357 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 8: points right after that, had the two turnovers. They really 358 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 8: had field position working against some of the entire game 359 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 8: and held up for us well. So you know, I 360 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 8: thought that there was there was a lot of winning 361 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 8: things that are defense did today. 362 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, I think Joe put a glove on. 363 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 5: I mean, what was it that bat out there with 364 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 5: that reign. I mean, if it's just drizzling a little 365 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 5: bit that can make a football Darren slick with that 366 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 5: rozin on it. 367 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 8: It was as bad as as we've had since I've 368 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 8: been here, you know. So that's an element that factors 369 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 8: into the game. And we got to be ready for 370 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 8: as team and start to adjust and again win on 371 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 8: those little small thrings in all three phases to help 372 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 8: ourselves and just didn't do good enough job of that today. 373 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 5: Did Cleveland do anything defensively that surprised you at all, 374 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 5: or they were very aggressive in their posture on just 375 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 5: about everything they did. 376 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 8: I guess, yeah, sure, and you should be. You know, 377 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 8: they're the first half when it gets wet and it's 378 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 8: gonna be hard to throw it and we're gonna have 379 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 8: to lean on the run game. So they did a 380 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 8: good job of that stuff. 381 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 5: So now as you get ready for the for the 382 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 5: Baltimore Ravens, you get them at home. And I mean, 383 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: what did you tell your football team in the locker 384 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 5: room right after this football game? 385 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 8: We got to clean this thing up tomorrow, put this 386 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 8: one behind us, and be ready to see the team 387 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 8: that we know we are next week when we play 388 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 8: Baltimore at home. 389 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're exactly right. I mean, the last two 390 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 5: years this team went to the Super Bowl, went to 391 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 5: the SC Championship Game, and last in Cleveland both years. 392 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 5: I mean, it's not like you don't throw the baby 393 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 5: out with the bathwater, right. 394 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,239 Speaker 8: Yeah. People will make a lot of it because it's 395 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 8: Week one and there's been a lot of focus on 396 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 8: this game, but again, we know that this can be 397 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 8: a long season and we just got to put it 398 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 8: behind us and make the corrections and get ready for 399 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 8: next week. 400 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: A home game against the Ravens is coming up next. 401 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: Baltimore opened the season with a twenty five to nine 402 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: win over the Houston Texans, and it was a tough 403 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: weekend for football fans in Pittsburgh. The pitt Panthers lost 404 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: a home game to the UC Bearcats on Saturday night, 405 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 2: and the following afternoon on the same field, the Steelers 406 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: lost to the San Francisco forty nine Ers thirty to seven. 407 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: Before we get to this week's fun Facts interview, here 408 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: are a couple of takeaways from Sunday's loss. Number One. 409 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: People are not going to want to hear this, but 410 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 2: I am more concerned about how good the Browns looked 411 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: than how bad the Bengals looked. Joe Burrow and the 412 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: Bengals will bounce back, they always do, but the Browns 413 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: looked like they are going to be formidable in twenty 414 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: twenty three. Deshaun Watson didn't throw the ball very well, 415 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 2: but if he continues to improve and gives the Browns 416 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: solid quarterback play this year, they'd be tough to beat 417 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: in the AFC North. The strong up front on both 418 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: sides of the ball, have really good cornerbacks and one 419 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: of the best running backs on the planet. I didn't 420 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: see a glaring weakness on Sunday. Observation two. Did not 421 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: playing the offensive starters in the preseason lead to another 422 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: lousy opener. It's impossible to say for sure, but Zach 423 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: Taylor is no dummy, and I don't think he's stubborn. 424 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 2: It's probably worth changing the preseason plan just a bit 425 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: to at least try something different. Then again, if Joe 426 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: Burrow hadn't strained his calf in the second practice of 427 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 2: training camp, the offense might have put thirty five points 428 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 2: on the board. Observation number three. If the new starting 429 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: safeties were the biggest question mark going into the season, 430 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: I thought they got off to a great start. Dax 431 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: Hill had an interception and six tackles, including two for losses, 432 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: and Nick Scott tied for the team leaden tackles with eleven, 433 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: matching Jermaine Pratt. I also thought rookie DJ Turner looked 434 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: excellent in his snaps at cornerback. The Bengals Booth podcast 435 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: is brought to you by Kettering Health, the official healthcare 436 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: provider of the Bengals. With more than one hundred and 437 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 2: twenty care facilities and fifteen hundred care providers. Kettering Health 438 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: is committed to guiding you to your best health. Visit 439 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: ketteringhealth dot org to learn more. My Fantastic fun Facts 440 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: guest this week is Bengals President Mike Brown, and I 441 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: should point out that our conversation was recorded before the 442 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: team's record setting contract extension with Joe Burrow. Here's Mike, Mike. 443 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: This is the Bengals fifty sixth season. Joe Burrow's got 444 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: three years of experience under his belt. Your coaching staff 445 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 2: is in its fifth year together. Basically, I don't see 446 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: any glaring weaknesses on the roster. Does this year feel 447 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: different to you in terms of expectations. 448 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 10: I know better than to have expectations. We've played well 449 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 10: the last two years. We had good teams. We went 450 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 10: to the Super Bowl, too, AFC championship games, and we 451 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 10: won the divisional title back to back. That's pretty good 452 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 10: recognition that we had a good team. But when you 453 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 10: look forward, you have to be careful not to claim 454 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 10: too much. You have to go out and do it again. 455 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 10: You have to prove it over. It's never easy. Those 456 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 10: other teams they think that they're just as good or better, 457 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 10: And I know we have good teams in the division 458 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 10: to contend with. It will be a real challenge, but 459 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 10: I also know that we have a pretty good base 460 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 10: to start after it. 461 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 2: It's not in your nature to make bold proclamations. Was 462 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: your dad the same way, Oh? 463 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 10: He was much more so. He used to as a 464 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 10: coach always make sure that if they won a game, 465 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 10: that was a great victory and everyone should recognize. It 466 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 10: is the case that some of the people in the NFL, 467 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 10: the league, they go out and beat their own tub, 468 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 10: hoping that people won't come. I've seen that done by 469 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 10: some very successfully for some reason. When they go down, 470 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 10: it's been so long since they were bragging about their 471 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 10: future that hardly anyone remembers it. But to me, that 472 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 10: would be embarrassing. And I was raised by my father 473 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 10: to the less you say, the better. 474 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: Your daughter, Katie has been praised league wide for her 475 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: ability to manage the salary cap. Are you amazed by 476 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: her grasp of a very complicated matter? 477 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 10: Well, I know, Katie, I'm not amazed. She was a 478 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 10: math major and an economics major in college. She's quite 479 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 10: bright enough. She can figure that stuff out. Sometimes I 480 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 10: think she thinks I'm too dumb to understand it. But anyway, 481 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 10: I rely on her, the team countseling her to handle this. 482 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: The NFL is approaching twenty billion dollars a year in 483 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: annual revenue. What do you make of the popularity and 484 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: scope of the NFL in twenty twenty three. 485 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 10: Well, I can't count to twenty billion, But I don't 486 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 10: think about the money. I honestly got down. I just 487 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 10: think about having it run the right way. That means 488 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 10: you win. It means you people behave and live the 489 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 10: way they should and are part of the community. It 490 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 10: means you keep the contentious stuff restrained, and money seems 491 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 10: to have a way of being contentious. The less said 492 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 10: about it, the better. As far as I'm concerned, Let's 493 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 10: just focus on the games. That's what people really are 494 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 10: interested in. 495 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: You've been known over the years to read and respond 496 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: to the letters sent to you. We're living in an 497 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: email world. Now do you still get letters and respond 498 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: to them? 499 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 5: Well? 500 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 10: I do. Just a short while ago, lady that I 501 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 10: wrote back to said, well, you like maps, so here 502 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 10: here's a map, and it's a map of the settlement 503 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 10: of Ohio. And how that was, how that went forward, 504 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 10: and it's really quite fun for me to look at it. 505 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 10: I do like it. Also sent a book to read. 506 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 10: I hesitated getting books from people because I like to 507 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 10: pick my own. But anyway, yes, I correspond to people 508 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 10: and occasionally I run aground, but more often not it 509 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 10: works out. 510 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: Okay, the NFL allows cameras everywhere. In this day and age, 511 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: we've got hard knocks. Netflix recently had a multi part 512 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 2: quarterback show that was very entertaining. Do you watch any 513 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: of that. 514 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 10: Stuff less than I probably should? I watched some of 515 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 10: When we were on the Hard Knock Show. It got 516 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 10: to be a trial. You'd be in your office and 517 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 10: these guys would just march right in and PLoP down 518 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 10: and take pictures of whatever you were doing. Then a 519 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 10: lot of it. Most stuff with me just got cut 520 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 10: out because there wasn't anything that anyone wanted to say. 521 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 10: But it could be Oh, I wouldn't say annoying, surprising. 522 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 10: Let us say you knew what was going on, so 523 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 10: you had to be ready to handle it. But it 524 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 10: was it was different. 525 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: We're having this conversation just before the beginning of training camp, 526 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 2: which obviously takes place across the street from pay Course Stadium. 527 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: Do you miss going to places like Wilmington and Georgetown? 528 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 10: I do. I happened to like the old ways. I 529 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 10: don't know at this stage whether I would be up 530 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 10: to it, but training camp had a way about it 531 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 10: that was integral to the life, the football life, and 532 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 10: it was fun to be around the players. And quite honestly, 533 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 10: if you talk to the old ones, they liked it. 534 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 10: They talk about what they did at training camp and 535 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 10: the pranks they played on each other and stuff like that. 536 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 10: It's conducive to wonderful memories. I'll say that. Yet I 537 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 10: like this way too. It's certainly nice to be able 538 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 10: to go home at night and we're right across the 539 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 10: street from the practice field. It's good for the people 540 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 10: here in Cincinnati. They can come down and watch if 541 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 10: they choose. So there are a lot of pluses to 542 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 10: having it the way it is now. 543 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 2: We've all heard the staying patience is a virtue. Many 544 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 2: of your fellow owners aren't very patient with their coaching staffs. 545 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: You historically have been. Do you feel like you were 546 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: rewarded with your patients. For Zach Taylor and seeing how 547 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: he's grown, was acs. 548 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 10: An excellent coach. The first two years here were hard. 549 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 10: He was a young coach. He's probably getting hold of himself, 550 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 10: but it took a while for him to put the 551 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 10: team together the way it worked for him, and I 552 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 10: think that's been accomplished. We have some good players. The 553 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 10: problem going forwards will be to how do we keep 554 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 10: the good players enough of them? That's what I worry 555 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 10: about these days. Zach has proven himself. If you have 556 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 10: a coaching record like his, where you go to a 557 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 10: super Bowl, where you go to a couple of AFC 558 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 10: championship games and win the division back to back, you 559 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 10: have proven your merit. 560 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: Part of the fun of being a sports fan are 561 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: the rivalries. Who do you consider at the Bengals' biggest 562 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: rival these days? 563 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 10: Whoever we play next? But our natural rival is Cleveland, 564 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 10: But somehow Cleveland has drifted off to consider the Steelers 565 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 10: their natural rival Baltimore and we pound on each other 566 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 10: pretty good, yet we're sort of far away. And now 567 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 10: Kansas City Mahomes told Joe that I guess we were 568 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 10: going to have a rivalry or something like that, So 569 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 10: now we have another one to be a rival with. 570 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: You said to reporters earlier today, this is a time 571 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: for Cincinnati sports to shine. Clearly, you're cognizant of the Reds' 572 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 2: recent success. I know how closely follow the Reds, but 573 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 2: also FC Cincinnati. You see going to the Big twelve 574 00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: xavior basketball's historical success. You seem to be kind of 575 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: caught up in all of it. 576 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 10: Well, it's quite extraordinary. A lot's going on in Cincinnati 577 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 10: in sports, good things, and I think that this adds 578 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 10: to the life here in town. I like sports. I 579 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 10: think a lot of men doing women as well. It 580 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 10: just lifts the spirits of the community when it goes right, 581 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 10: and right now it looks like it's going right. 582 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure to pick your brain. Appreciate the time. 583 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: Thanks Mike, good to be with you. That's going to 584 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: do it for this episode of the Bengals Booth podcast, 585 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: brought to you by Bengals Picks and Ultimate Bengals. They're 586 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: free to play with tickets and signed merchandise up for 587 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 2: grabs by pay Corps, the official HR software provider of 588 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: the Bengals. By Alta Fiber future Proof Fiber Internet elevate 589 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: your connection with Alta Fiber, and by Kettering Health, the 590 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 2: official healthcare provider of the Bengals. 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